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Well, you're writing this down, right? I don't need to. Oh, let's get to it.
Daniel Sachkov discusses Russia's technological alignment with China, the rise of technocratic zones, and implications for Russia's political and digital future.
Key Takeaways
- Russia is becoming a technological appendage of China, heavily reliant on Chinese hardware and software.
- Global power is fragmenting into technocratic zones defined by dominant technological ecosystems.
- Technocratic governance involves extensive surveillance, social rating systems, and digital control.
- India and other countries are forming separate technological alliances, such as India with Israel.
- The political and social consequences of these technological dependencies are profound, affecting censorship, information flow, and sovereignty.
What the video covers
- Daniel Sachkov explains that Russia is increasingly integrated into a Chinese-led technocracy, relying heavily on Chinese technology and infrastructure.
- The world is dividing into distinct technocratic zones based on dominant technology sources: American, European, and Chinese.
- Russia's digital and political landscape is shaped by this technological dependence, including the development of a digital ruble and internet censorship similar to China.
- Sachkov highlights the use of Chinese hardware and gateways in Russia, leading to significant information flow to China.
- India is aligning more with Israeli technology, showing a different technological bloc within the BRICS framework.
- The interview touches on the political implications of these technological dependencies, including censorship, blocking of platforms like Bastion, and control over information.
- Sachkov dismisses fears of AI rebellion, emphasizing that technocracies operate under strict control by their 'masters'.
- The discussion includes observations on the Russian political climate, foreign agent designations, and societal perceptions amid ongoing crises.
- There is commentary on the global geopolitical shifts, including North America's and the EU's technological alignments.
- The conversation also covers the challenges and realities of Russian technology development compared to global competitors.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Context
- 04:12Technocratic Zones and Global Divisions
- 07:54India's Technological Alignment with Israel
- 11:31Media Analysis and Neural Networks
- 14:54Censorship and Platform Blocking in Russia
- 18:40Public Perception and Political Climate in Russia
- 22:09China-Russia Technological Relationship
- 24:29Future Outlook and Geopolitical Implications
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Good afternoon, dear friends. Daniel Sachkov, creator of the Bastion and Barteron platforms for the free exchange of information and goods, is our guest. Hello, Daniel.
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Hello, Pavel. Hello, viewers. Let's start with the hot stuff, so to speak. Last week, I was added to the Russian register of foreign agents. Was your Bastion platform blocked in Russia? I'll ask this question. You're not in Russia.
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And yet, perhaps you have some insight. And there's a lot of talk here about how a new mobilization might be brewing—the authorities deny it; maybe a freeze on deposits is being prepared; maybe they're just preparing some kind of reshuffle at the top, some
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kind of division of property and positions; or maybe the crisis is simply so severe that there can't be any dissent. Well, maybe it's better to see from the outside. What's your idea of where Russia is heading?
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Well, first of all, Bastion wasn't added to any lists of blocked platforms. And judging by the responses, it seems to have started working, at least in some places. It's hard for me to say what that was, but it coincided with
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the elections in the Russian Federation. So, I have a general picture. It's that the world is moving toward dividing into technocratic zones. These zones are completely separate. And we've discussed this many times on your channel, especially, well, maybe you've
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asked a lot of leading questions. I've voiced my vision of who the technocrats are, who the globalists are, what kind of technonates I see emerging. They're, by the way, in the process of forming.
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The question is, where will Canada go? So, pay attention, right? So, Trump keeps saying that Canada will be part of the United States, but Canada is now signing an agreement, or at least they say, will be an associate member of the
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European Union. That is, the European Union is one zone entirely, and North America is another, and China is a third. This means that the Russian Federation, in my deep conviction, is moving toward inclusion in the Chinese technocracy, as, let's say, an
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appendage, an appendage. I don't want to say vassal, because vassal would imply that the leadership of the Russian Federation is vassals of China.
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I don't think that's the case. I think they have their own weight, their own affairs, but as a country, the point is that technocracy—I repeat, this is the definition—yes, technocracy is direct governance through technological tools. And they are, yes, well, not
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entirely autonomous, but they are autonomous in many ways. They have masters, and they'll never rebel against their masters. There won't be any Skynet. It's all a hoax. And yet, they operate largely autonomously. It's social ratings, it's surveillance, fifteen-minute cities, an endless
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stream of cameras, and so on, right? So, in these techno-nations, I don't need to know anything, I don't need to be at secret meetings or see classified documents to understand that Russia is part of the Chinese techno-nation. It's
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enough for me to know that Russia uses models and equipment from China. So, if, say, you're in a technocracy, whose technology and whose hardware is used in the country, well, in the country or in some region, it doesn't matter,
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right? This country belongs to this techno-nation, roughly speaking. Where American equipment technology is used, it will be part of the American techno-nation, and where European technology is used, it will be part of the European techno-nation. So, the Russian Federation, it mainly runs on
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Chinese technology. Everyone knows this. All these blockages are being implemented by Chinese equipment, gateways, and specialists. It's not that Russia doesn't have its own geniuses. I believe that, given my extensive experience, well, in development, yes, leading teams, I
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believe the top developers are Americans and Russians. The Europeans are somewhere close, meaning the Chinese and Indians. They are very powerful in terms of their knowledge, but they lag behind in terms of creativity. But, um, it doesn't matter
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when decisions are made; it's not based on competition, like the Russians lost. Well, in a sense, maybe so, but that's for political agency, that's a different matter. So, this isn't technological competition; the decision has been made. So, the Russian
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Federation is moving towards Chinese technologists, and we're even literally seeing the digital ruble there.
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Whitelists, yes, it's all a repeat of China. And they have had the Great Wall of China, the internet for a long time.
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Russia doesn't have one yet. But in Russia, you're essentially saying that it might not even be a political decision, but rather, so to speak, a technological imperative. So, we buy technology from there, so what else can we do?
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Well, that's a purely logical conclusion, but in reality, I mean, it all had to be proven, but naturally, there was a political decision from the start. Where to get the technology, who is supposedly dominant? So, China was given the leading role in this
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technology. Note that, for example, the question is: India in which technology? BRICS, let me ask you a question. Wait, maybe I'm not understanding this well. The elections were just over. One of the remarkable things discussed online was Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin voting, it
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was shown, filmed, captured. And meticulous journalists noticed that on Vladimir Vladimirovich's screen they could see the message: "Your version of Windows is not activated. To activate, use this, this, this." Anyone who's ever installed a pirated version knows what it is. The Kremlin, or more likely
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Novaya Gryazev's residence—in short, the President of the Russian Federation. Are there any Chinese operating systems at all, or are we even dependent on the Chinese? The Chinese use pirated systems, so Chinese hardware is supposed to use pirated
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systems. So, is this all in line with the logic of Chinese hardware? Well, that's certainly a funny touch. I don't know, maybe someone was making fun of it, but the logic is that, I don't know what the agreements are, and
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so on, but it's absolutely clear that Russia is moving toward Chinese hardware, being largely an appendage of China, receiving technology and hardware from there. You have to understand that, if, say, Chinese gateways and equipment are operating in
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the Russian Federation, then 99% of the most important information is leaking to China. They transmit it, especially the specialists here, and so on. And this is very sensitive information about internal life, about people. So, let's say, India and many other
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countries—I said right away that they wouldn't get along with China, India—they're moving toward Israeli tech.
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India is now very closely aligned with Israel, and they have many economic agreements, and so on and so forth.
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Israel has its own powerful technologies, no less powerful than China's. Well, as their own, of course, like everything else in Israel, they were taken from America for free, you could even say more than that. That is, America is still paying for it. But
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nevertheless, they are owned by Israel, their headquarters are in Israel. Palantir, for example, is essentially an Israeli company, as are many, many others that are located there. That is, the Russian Federation is moving toward China. And therefore, the internet will
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be like China's, only with some peculiarities. And, apparently, in some respects, it will even be tougher than China's. So, the blocking, say, the blocking of Bastion, I don't know what it was, elections or not, but it's obvious that the site bastion.com was
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blocked practically instantly across the country. Yes, that means there's a technology in place to block it very quickly, efficiently. And it wasn't even the domain that was blocked, but IP addresses. It's more like, well, it's the next level of blocking. It's
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certainly not that serious for Bastion, but nevertheless, that's how it would have been.
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always rely solely on whitelists. That's not necessary. Many people told me, "It will always be like that everywhere." It's not necessary that there will always be whitelists everywhere. Sometimes there will be, and sometimes it will just be manual
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control. That's why China doesn't have whitelists as such. Nevertheless, they have a very flexible internet control system. Tough, sort of tough, but flexible. The tough essence is that they don't allow much, but they do allow some things and they allow people
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to speak flexibly about things, like, well, they have freedom of speech, VPNs work. So, if you want, Bastion can operate peacefully in China, without VPNs, by the way. Well, just like in the Russian Federation, actually, so what does
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China get in return if they transfer their technology to Russia? I think they value it very much, and it helps them a lot. Well, I think what China gets in return is that Russia uses these technologies, and China has very
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significant control over the Russian Federation's technological sphere, receiving information, and, well, about people, maybe high-ranking officials, anything. So the question here shouldn't be about what China gets, but rather, well, the question should be about the Russian Federation, being a
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country, well, scientifically developed , still, yes, be that as it may, Russia is a developed country. Oh, and you can see that even today, Russian schoolchildren win many Olympiads, many top students, even though in any Western science, there will be ethnic
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Russians, right? So, this country isn't like some Congo, where the IQ is very low, right? And yet, ask yourself, by the way, an obvious question: why doesn't Russia have one, for example?
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Well, I'm not even talking about our own microchips, well, I won't say that Elbrus is a Russian microchip. Everyone knows what that is. But never mind microchips. Why doesn't Russia even have its own decent neural networks?
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Look at what China is doing. It's actually competing with Open AI, with Anthropic. It beats them in many ways.
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Yes, China steals a lot from them. You need to understand that with all your blessings, I'm also developing my own network for analyzing the media space using neural networks and, uh, local ones. And, uh, this neural network JLM
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really helps me. It's brilliant, free. I mean, I tried, uh, paid chat GPT and Gemini, and they gave me worse answers than JLM. It's not perfect either. At some point, it crashed me, it deleted a week of work, but it still feels pretty
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good. JLM 4.7 is a very powerful model, and most importantly, it's not limited locally. Now, by the way, I'll give you a tip. The V4 Flash model came out in the summer. Not V41. V41 is big, but V
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4F. It will fit in the same places as GLM, but it's much more powerful. It's on the level of Opus 4.6 4.7. The Chinese can make their own neural networks, right? They're stolen, right?
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Deep, JLM, and all, all these are distilled American neural networks. However, they're not just distilled, they're super-duper accelerated, they're awesome. The Chinese actually make neural networks. Now, the H3 model has come out. It generates local video of absolutely insane quality. Something
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, by the way, that was also discussed on your channel. Soon we will enter an era when you won't be able to trust your eyes on the internet. Videos by Pavel Ivanov or Danil Sochkov can be generated with any degree of
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verisimilitude, put into their mouths anything you want, and stick them there not only for the agent. Sorry, not to scare you, but my point is that this is already an H3 model.
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No, well, I'm talking about myself too. The H3 is simply an insanely powerful model. And everything is just beginning . And the question is: why can you name even one neural network from Russia that has demonstrated anything at all
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on the level of Frontier models? There aren't any. Why? Do Russians really have no brains? Because as a techie, I have to ask you a question. We're drafting a package of laws that will require the use of only
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Russian neural networks from Sber and Yandex. Of course, that's the point of being a techie. But the question is also different. Do Sber and Yandex have a neural network that has some kind of, well, voluntary use? Will anyone use it
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without coercion? What kind of neural network is this? What kind of scientific papers do they have? What are they like? There's nothing like that yet.
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So, I was declared a foreign agent. First, I was fired from school with the explanation—quote: "How can he teach our children? He doesn't like Putin." As my blog grew, denunciations began to be filed against me and even lawsuits
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were filed. I was questioned by the Investigative Committee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs only three times.
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And each time, it was established that there was no extremism, LGBT propaganda , or anything else I was accused of.
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But who has ever stopped that? I can be proud that I've held out for so long under our circumstances. When I criticized the Covid madness, my content was blocked dozens of times.
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Ultimately, I had to create a whole network of YouTube channels just to jump from one to the next. And I was completely and irrevocably removed from Rutube for criticizing our immigration policy and certain diasporas. On the one hand, on Solovyovla Lla, they
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called me absolute evil. We understand what we're doing; we're dealing with absolute evil. This Pavel Ivanov, Nekhta, is absolute evil. On the other hand, foreign agents called me a pro-Kremlin blogger.
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State Duma deputy Mikhail Matveyev from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation had to record an apology.
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What happened? In early January, he gave an interview to pro-Kremlin blogger Pavel Ivanov. And really, I'm not part of either group. And although I was in Donetsk near the front, and then near Kursk, not far from the front line, and
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repeatedly participated in collecting humanitarian aid for refugees and victims, and front-line soldiers, and for the rehabilitation of the wounded, I was branded a foreign agent. Now my opportunities are limited. I count on your support. Links and details are
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below the video. Like, comment, subscribe to the channel. Together we are strong. So here's an indicator, a question. The question I would ask is: why are mathematics, computer science, and informatics better than Russians?
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The answer is obvious: no. Of course not. It was simply decided that China will lead the tech scene. Therefore, China is allowed to develop such things . China invests in them, China promotes them, but the Russian Federation does
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not. That's my answer. Perhaps the only reasonable answer to such a question. So, again, going back to your question, what's happening with these blockings and so on, what's happening is that Russia is harmonizing its policies, so to speak, with China. Note that while
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censorship occurs around the world, it's done differently. Differently. For example, in the European Union and its satellite countries, what is the main way censorship is done there? Sort of through child protection, with passport-based access, so that a child
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doesn't...They have the same strategy, mind you, all countries in Europe, the UK, they have the same strategy.
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Passport-based access for government. So, they have their own methodology: they don't create whitelists, they don't block websites. They hit people with money through the courts, and then they pass laws based on that. That's their approach. Yes, in America, it's a
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little different. They generally stuff everything with money. There, TikTok was bought out by Larisa once. But the Chinese tech world has its own approach : hitting people over the head, meaning whitelists, means blocking. And this, well, initially, when I spoke about
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this hypothesis, it was, well, just a hypothesis, but now it's becoming increasingly clear that this is indeed the case. I repeat, this doesn't mean that the Russian leadership is aligned with China. No, but for some reason, a decision was made and they approved it
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that Russia will be a dependent appendage of, well, China, in terms of technology and everything else. As for these expectations for the next, I don't know, six months, a year, I think the average person isn't very sensitive to these stories about these neural
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networks being forced upon us. This will be a long-term directive and obligation for companies that will develop something. First, probably, for government agencies, then state corporations, then the private sector.
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But ordinary people perceive things completely differently. More generally. Do you have any understanding of what's going on in Russia? I'm talking to people here because I've been labeled a foreign agent, and no one understands anything. Well, everyone has their own
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theories, which don't really mesh. I think, yes, it's true, there's a lot of information noise, it's hard to understand, to isolate it, but if we take as a working hypothesis that everything will be like in China, then it's clearer what we're preparing for.
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This includes the digital ruble, which is like the digital yuan, some kind of social ratings, and ever-increasing control over the information space.
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This includes the impossibility of writing frankly in private messages. A Chinese person would never write frankly in messengers or WeChat. A Chinese person understands perfectly well that one wrong WeChat message and they'll be left without a bus ticket. A
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second one could be more serious. So, I think, in general, we need to prepare, well, a vector, when there is, well, a ship sailing, it may make some small maneuvers here and there, but, in general, it's sailing in that direction
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. That is, Russia is sailing towards China, and in some ways, it seems to me , it's even overtaking it in some ways.
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But it's not floating in the sense. That is, China has a balancing act. On the one hand, it's true that it's a prison camp, well, sort of, but it's a prison camp where a lot of economic freedom is given, in fact, there's a
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lot of freedom there. China is a more capitalist country than the EU. Any country in the EU, and even America.
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It's the fastest-growing country, so to speak, yes. Yes. That is, on the one hand, these Chinese are being treated like they're being treated like they're being treated for freedom of speech, and everything's being wiped out. On the other hand, they're rich Chinese.
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If you notice, let's say, the Chinese government has been telling them to buy gold for 15 years now. That is, they don't want them to become completely impoverished. Apparently, they've realized, well, decided that the Chinese are quite obedient, so there's
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no need to oppress and destroy them. Regarding the Russians, it's an open question, right, what's going on? That is, we see that things are really, really terrible, I think. But in general, the vector is this: Russia is moving towards China, not towards the
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EU, not towards America, but precisely according to the Chinese model, with some adjustments. Accordingly, we need to prepare precisely for this, well, precisely for this, and prepare to live in this world. Again, here's the thing: China, uh, China will be privileged.
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This is Chinese tech. They are privileged, their businesses are privileged. In Russia, perhaps, well, business will be more destroyed, but nevertheless, regarding freedom of speech, we need to prepare precisely for a situation like China.
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And how would you prepare if you were in Russia? Well, I've said many times that the first thing, I believe, is that every person should have land, water, and energy. All nations, all people, all seven in history, who have thought a
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little about the future, they thought about the fact that, in my view, in China there is no such thing as the possibility of you leaving this society and somehow being on your own. That's true, but what I'm saying is, firstly,
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China and Russia, Russia is acting as an appendage of China. China has plenty of other freedoms. They don't need to abandon them because they still have very strong freedom of entrepreneurship . They have state support, breakthrough technologies. They have many
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opportunities to survive economically without this, yes. But in China itself, I'll explain that now they're not resettling people from villages to cities; on the contrary, they're developing them. By the way, in China, they've, of course, castrated them very
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severely, but they've adopted Chayanov's cooperative ideas. And they have a whole economy, a whole science based on Chayanov. They're studying him . A long time ago, they essentially saved themselves from starvation with these cooperative farms. That's why China is heterogeneous and ambiguous.
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But I'm not saying that Russia will be completely similar to China. Economically, it will be in a much worse situation. That's why it needs land, water, and energy. No, but China will have many more ways for people to
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earn money, survive there, and so on, and so forth, yes. But although it wouldn't hurt there either, yes, it's true, it's very difficult there. China is also an established digital country, well, not a prison camp, well, close to
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a concentration camp, yes, something like that. So land, water, energy— that's the first thing. And you don't necessarily have to move to the village . I'm not saying that everyone should move to the village, and certainly not necessarily dig potatoes. In Russia, by
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the way, it's wonderful that people can , almost everyone knows how to grow their own food. I myself am a descendant of peasants and Cossacks.
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This has always been developed. This is very good. This is not archaic, not Atovism. This will be very useful. But I'm not saying that everyone should do this, dig potatoes. Maybe it's good, maybe a little, but land, water, energy
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means you're not locked into the city. You can visit friends, loved ones, or some comrades. You have access to water because water is an undervalued asset.
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In the 21st century, water will be— well, that's a slightly longer-term prospect. You know, right now, water— these data centers are simply destroying water reserves. In America, in many small villages, the drinking water has simply been spoiled because
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of these data centers. Energy. Well, I've been talking about energy for a long time, and well, what if there is no diesel, for example, and it's already gone, it's kind of nonexistent.
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And if there are other damages, like housing and utilities, infrastructure, how can we live without energy? Of course, energy is needed. That is, land , water, energy. What is energy? Yes, it can be anything. Firewood, coal, diesel reserves, solar panels, if it's
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sunny somewhere. That is, there must be some independent energy sources. I assure you that I'm not some sort of peasant, I'm a technologist, I live and work within this paradigm. But I'm speaking objectively: if a person doesn't have this opportunity, they
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could simply die or suffer greatly during the transition. So, land, water, and energy are absolutely necessary; even if you don't live there, you should have this opportunity. Then there are like-minded people, I believe , and this, by the way, is a paradox.
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I'll tell you, as an observer, I communicate with many people in America , Europe, and Russia. They write to me through Bastion. I have thousands and thousands of chats with different people, often very interesting ones. I have a sociological tool that few have
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because it's distributed across different countries. And I'll say this: I clearly observe that the percentage of such natural talents, enthusiasts, smart, interesting, strong-willed people is higher in Russia than anywhere else. It seems strange, but I think Russia is beaten down, finished
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off, its gene pool destroyed. I've studied all this, too, and I understand it. The situation there is even worse.
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Worse, worse, worse. And it's worse, but in Russia this is counterbalanced by a complete lack of self-organization , a complete lack of mutual assistance.
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So, let's say, in countries where there are few talented people, but there are groups of people who will help each other, they'll see their fellow man abroad and help him or even at home, then in Russia I see that these
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talented people are abandoned to flounder in solitude. The next conclusion is that without self-organization, without some group of people who can generate economic activity, you simply won't survive. No amount of land, water, or energy will help you. Having like-minded people is
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the most important thing, which I would highlight. You talk about how to prepare in Russia. Look for them. Yes, sometimes you'll have to talk to dozens of people, communicate, but it's a bad idea to close yourself off and retreat
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into your own cocoon. It's clear that no one can even carry out economic activity alone. We need to work together. Land, water, energy. Then skills. Skills are what we talked about when we talked about local neural networks. I would highlight two key
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technological skills and a few more, I think. Today, you know, yes, that anthropopic Open is taking a lot of old books, cutting up textbooks, cutting them up. That is, they're devouring and erasing human knowledge. I think that, unfortunately, in a couple of years, we
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won't even be able to find many of the training courses that are currently available online; they'll be removed.
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Therefore, I believe, and I would suggest this, and this is crucial, because land, water, and energy are one thing. We don't always control like-minded people. Well, maybe you found a person or not, but skills are entirely your own willpower. The first,
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I believe, is the first two technological skills I highlighted: working with local neural networks. If you know how to work with your neural networks, you will, firstly, be able to understand what's going on much better.
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You'll be able to earn money, and you'll be protected from many, many blows. In critical situations, you can gain knowledge. The second is 3D printing. I've been talking about this for a long time, for several years now.
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Everyone tells me, "Oh, 3D printing is so cheap, spare parts from China." And, excuse me, when diesel costs four or five times more than now, well, Chinese spare parts will be golden, really. So you need to know 3D, well, 3D printing,
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at least not everyone who's inclined to it needs to be able to do it. And, of course, the skill of efficiently growing food. This is for those who aren't inclined to technology, how to grow food productively and quickly. And
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now there are such methodologies, without even chemicals. I've often said , there's a blogger I really like, his name is Christian, and he used to be ICE Agefarmer. He simply talks about methodologies for growing your own food . YouTube banned him for that. Now he
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has a different channel, I'll share it. He changed his name there on YouTube, too, but he constantly gets banned for telling people how to grow their own food. And not just like, well, like, like, throwing potatoes in the
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old-fashioned way, or digging up the soil in the fall. We really loved that. I'd go there too. But there are more effective, technologically advanced things there, yes. The most important things are then repairing and fixing electronics for smartphones and cars.
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These crucial skills won't be lost, because when diesel prices rise, we're now seeing a coordinated attack, which, of course, affects everyone, not just the Russian Federation. This is a root-and-branch attack to deprive people of fuel. We'll pay attention to
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what's happening in the Russian Federation. These oil refineries are exploding. Like, no one can figure out, yeah, that you can put up piles and string an iron mesh there. Well, in short, they're such idiots there. And in Iran, it's also unclear. This Trump,
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he seems to have peace one day, then bomb Iran the next, then the US. Well, for some reason, he's attacking the energy infrastructure there. Well, it's clear that the Saudis are helping the US, but they're not your main enemy, in
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theory. If you want to with him, wait a minute. You say Trump is attacking the system, but the Iranians have blocked it, and it's a strange game. Are they all working in tandem to paralyze the energy flow? I don't know, but I
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can only state the fact that Iran, instead of attacking its main enemies —Israel and the US—is constantly attacking the region's energy infrastructure. Why are they doing this , I can't comment right now, but will it lead to a lack of diesel? A lack of
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diesel will lead to higher prices for everything: food, cars, spare parts. Well, think about it, diesel is everywhere, it's everywhere, you can't live without it. And diesel is the first victim of this crisis. So, I'm talking about skills, you...I keep
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answering the question of how to prepare in Russia, not just in Russia. And diesel will hit food, so learning to grow food will hit spare parts, the import of spare parts, you know, electronics. So, you need to know how
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to repair, or print. Printing spare parts is also possible. There you go. 3D printing is for you. So, 3D printing isn't for some gimmicks, but for learning how to print spare parts. And neural networks are needed, well, for
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knowledge, because you yourself just said that Alice and something else will be there. Question. So you come to this fox and say: "How can I effectively raise my own poultry there, well, in my own backyard garden, right? And Alice
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will tell you this, there is such-and-such an article that prohibits you from raising them, actually, or, in general, she won't tell you about it, then sources of knowledge. Well, here are my recommendations. Land, water, energy, like-minded people, skills.
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I've listed specific skills. 3D printing, local neronki, food, repairing smartphones, cars. These are the coolest skills with which you won't be lost in any severe crisis. So, comrades, learn, develop, master.
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Skills are suitable for different people. Let's continue about your global view. There is also a lot of talk about the impending war with Europe. The logic is very popular that a rightward turn is developing in Europe now. The AfD is coming to power
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in Germany. In Italy, they have started talking about So, restricting migration flows, tightening rules, banning entry.
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Well, there are right-wing sentiments, apparently. Some support them, some do, or perhaps the authorities have simply listened to the people; it's as if this is no longer believable. And now they'll regroup a little and in a few years they'll be ready to fight Russia
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for good. What do you think of these prospects? How plausible are they? Well, first of all, in my book, which is available for free on my channel, by the way, I even have a whole chapter, it's called the false right-left binary
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. This doesn't mean I reject the concept of right and left. As we know, it took hold during the French Revolution, where on the right sat supporters of either restoration or at least a pardon for the king, and on the
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left sat the Jacobites. Girandan is all about that, right-left and left. But this right-left paradigm has also undergone a lot of changes. For example , the left During the French Revolution , it was the French ultranationalists.
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Well, some people don't remember, but that's how it was. Then they became leftists, they became anti-national, when the leftist movement took over the Jewish cause. Especially in Russia, yes , well, not only in Russia, but in Europe. The rightists were, for example
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, by the way, regarding the economy. The leftists, the leftists were supporters, that is, they weren't supporters of this social moment, the rightists, on the contrary, defended the working class. That is, it all changed many times. So it's like right,
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left. I can say that, yes, if you take the classic right-wing ideals, there's faith, one's own history, love for the fatherland, for ancestors, culture— these, of course, are considered right-wing ideals, but at the moment, it's all being manipulated. You say
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someone is financing it. It's a completely open and well-known fact that all of these movements are financed by Elon Musk. And absolutely all of these right-wing movements, including AfD, Geert, Wilders, and so on, and so on. Then, well, Holland, yes
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, there's Geertvilders, all these Tommy Robinson movements in England, they all swear allegiance to Israel. That is, these puppet right-wing movements of Numask cannot be called right-wing. You should read up on his views. He's a technocrat. He's neither right nor left
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. He's a technocrat to the core. That is, the right-wing forces that are financed by technocrats in the AfD, among the leaders, I think there's even a lesbian, excuse me, some Hindu lesbian, there's only one leader of the
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right. Well, seriously, seriously, remember how LGBT in Russia was declared an extremist organization, right?
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Well, at least that's something positive. That's very positive. So, uh, so, uh, these movements are all pseudo-right, so, generally speaking, their supporters are en masse for Russia. If you talk to a right-wing German who doesn't understand what the
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AfD is, but is simply tired of it chaos , he will be for friendship with Russia . Therefore, the right turn, it in no way contributes to the war and does not hinder it. It is, well, you could say,
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some kind of orthogonal parallel movement. The right turn is a sign of the struggle between technocrats and globalists for power. Because both technocrats and globalists, they practically have family ties, and they are moving towards the same goal. But
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technocrats, they seem to have saddled themselves with right-wing ideals. They are not right-wing, neither are these right-wing, nor are these left-wing.
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They simply put on these clothes and use fools, supposedly to seize power. That is, the right-wing forces are using Elon Musk, and behind him is technocracy, or rather, well, yes, he kind of represents technocracy, in order to try to wrest some power in the
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European Union from the globalists. And the globalists are Soros, these are the Leftists and so on, and so on, and so on. Yes, and in In today's world, everything has changed again. Let's say , at the beginning of the 20th century,
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for those who really love this left-right, left, right, at the beginning of the 20th century, if you take, say, the Jewish question, the left they were in, well, there were a lot of Jews, that's a fact, yes, about
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the majority. The right, on the contrary, were against Jewish influence . Now it's the other way around. Who is boycotting Israel? It's Spain. First of all, Spain is the most left-wing country in the European Union. In America, these are the most left-wing
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senators. So, just pay attention, and it seems to me that we need to throw out this terminology of left and right.
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They're fooling us with them. So, tell me what you have, your faith, history, economics. So, tell me, express your thoughts literally. No need for left-right. So, regarding your question about war, I think there are no preconditions for a real war. I know a
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lot of people in Europe. I don't know a single person, not a single one, who would be ready to fight Russia, that is not This means that it won't be promoted, inspired, or staged in some way, I don't know. And I agree with you
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that there are many signs that this is being prepared. But these are not signs among the people, but rather general signs. We see certain movements, preparations for mobilization there.
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This crazy rhetoric, yes, that has spread. So, is this war possible? Well, I think it's quite possible, quite possible. Will it really be a war that people will go to? I don't think so.
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The Europeans, well, they're very far from that now. And they won't go to any war, especially the right-wingers against Russia. Of course, they could generate some kind of false flag, yes, some kind of event to get people outraged. It could shake things up for
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a short time. But, in general, there are no preconditions for a real war between the peoples. Do they want to, uh, pull off something like that? Of course they do. And it's clear that they're preparing. I still I hope there
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are very few people who are ready for something like this. Well, there needs to be at least a percentage, maybe 30 percent of some idiots, enthusiasts.
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Yes, I think they're no longer in Europe. They might be there, I wouldn't say they're advanced, but they're not militarists in this area.
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Look, as we're recording, Trump spoke on Tuesday evening, Zelensky spoke. Trump promises to end the war by winter , well, between Russia and Ukraine. So let's first ask your opinion on what's still preventing the special operation from being completed and peace being
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established, and then, actually, to what's happening in America, because a lot of what Trump is doing fits into the logic of panicked expectations and electoral failure. People are saying, some analysts believe that the Democratic Party is coming, and again
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this is affecting everyone, all the parties involved, that pro-democratic forces in both China and Russia will now raise their heads and will receive some appointments. To the point that Sergei Sobyanin allegedly received an offer to become prime minister shortly
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after his inauguration. This means that the new State Duma is about to begin its work—there will likely be a change of government. That's why he was so cheerful and happy at the Moscow Financial Forum, it's actually surprising that he was so cheerful, so
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happy. And what about his long-term thoughts, in your opinion: war? Trump, the Democrats? Well, first of all, I want everyone to understand the logic of modern democracy. It's not that Trump isn't afraid of any defeat; defeat is inherent in the very nature of the
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system. I studied—well, I studied at an American university, I have a master's degree, in business administration, but with a focus on finance, well, we also studied political science. It's no secret that the president's party always loses midterm elections. Well, its result is
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always worse than before. This should immediately make people think:" How can this be? "So it turns out that the system there has been in place for decades, centuries, and no matter who's in the party, no matter who's president
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, they still lose elections. Are they all so bad, are they all so bad at their jobs, that they lose elections?" No, it's built into the system itself.
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We must completely dismiss the idea that Trump is afraid of electoral failure. Firstly, it's because historically, no matter how great the party, even Reagan lost the midterms, and Reagan is nothing compared to Trump ; he's top-tier, he's an actor, he's so
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smooth and convenient. Secondly, Trump constantly makes statements that drive his base crazy. They're simply more angry at him than ever. Look at all the bloggers who supported him. They're ready, they're ready to simply lynch him. And he's constantly adding fuel to
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the fire; he's openly saying, 'I don't care about you. I don't need you.' Why?
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Because that's the system, you know? A person comes along, he's like a voodoo doll, people have to stick all their needles of anger into him. And then the pendulum swings, other people come along, people feel, 'Aha, we've achieved something, look, he lost.' "So
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, it's a system of automated spectacle, a political struggle. But you have to make unpopular decisions, play the populist at the right moment, and play the idiot at the wrong moment.
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Absolutely right. I spent a whole chapter, I don't want to do this all the time. My book, my book. But I devoted a whole chapter to analyzing how this happens. That is, the pendulum swings, let's say, to the conditional
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right. What? What kind of right is Trump? Well, what kind of right is he?
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He has the largest number of homosexuals working in the history of American administrations. Do you understand? Noon is not right-wing by any means, right? And I just don't know what kind of IQ you need to have to believe he's right-wing. Nevertheless,
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he seems to be moving to the right. His rhetoric is terribly right-wing. That is, driving out these migrants, well, that is, taking the worst of the right, taking it to the point of absurdity. He deliberately takes it to the point of
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absurdity. And we, then, will drive everyone out. There. And they show on TV how I'm against it. Well, it's clear that migration is an invasion, but when they take a family, separate them, and deport the father there, and the
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children, well, it looks brutal. It's deliberate brutality. It's deliberate brutality. Just like before Trump, all these things, like these parades, yes, of perverts, because if you think about it, they could have achieved their goals without bringing these creepy
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freaks out on the streets. Well, why are they there, so that they can walk around with their naked asses in front of children, God knows what else. Why did they children with these vivesections? Why? But it was necessary
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so that people would be filled with revolt and so that they would rush into the outstretched arms of the next Savior. From the right, this comes from the right later. What he promised them, he doesn't do. But he is so brutal that
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people say:" Yes, we already have the left, give us the left already. "And there it stands Gavin, then, with open arms, and also them, and also this pendulum continues. Every president who ran for office in America promised to
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end wars. Every one. That is, that is, essentially, it is important that this field of the top, the space of choice, is very narrow from the start.
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You can only choose from a few people. Each of them will be parsley. Choose anyone. It will be a win in any case.
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Yes. And he comes and he begins to act grotesquely harshly. He brings everything to the grotesque in order to prepare people, push them into the arms of the next opposite sex on the other side, the savior. And so it happens.
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Clinton, Obama, Bush Jr., Trump, they all promised to end wars. All of them. And they all started a ton of new wars.
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Now he promises to end the war, that is , in Ukraine, but he has no intention of ending it in Iran. Well, that is, it turns out that he, look, this is Trump, he even looks like...
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Well, he said that he is offering Iran a deal, but Iran refuses. Iran has a last chance. Right after the elections.
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For some reason, not before, but right after the elections. And if not, then Iran will be in trouble. Apparently, if not, then Trump regarding the ground special operation. Well, I don't know what he, well, trivially, if he were worried
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about the elections, he would have stopped the war, signed some kind of truce with Iran. He didn't even do that . He couldn't care less. Moreover, one of his goals is to absorb as much heat and anger as possible, uh, well,
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there's a lot of evidence that when people with real power meet, politicians there, well, even presidents are something like a waiter.
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But if this president actually does unpopular, necessary things, needed by those behind the scenes, and accepts a lot of anger from these needles, then his status rises. And this is obvious.
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That is, he is obviously just being tough. The next savior will come, Newsom or someone else, who will also be tough. Ah, I see. So, do you have any idea who the next one is? What's the next stage of this whole spectacle?
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This is a worsening, and the next stage is an energy strike. This is the lack of diesel, which will cause a total collapse. Well, it's happening, actually, a total collapse is happening .
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That is, the war in the Middle East will continue to worsen for a long time .
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Yes. Yes. Well, what about Iran? And there's no point in surrendering to a wound. The Houthis have now rushed along the coast, they blew up a pipeline there. There's no point in them stopping. America, what about America? It's across the oceans for
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them. They don't feel this war. They fire missiles there, set fires, and sit there. And that's it. People see, of course, the prices of diesel. Well, what can they do? That is, this diesel collapse, it will lead to collapse.
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Impoverishment will lead to people having to accept the digital ruble, the digital euro, and some other restrictions. For example, I'll tell you, I did a stream at the very beginning of the war with Iran, even before, I think, Before the war with
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Iran, there were already guidelines from the Rockefeller Center and other think tanks. It's important to look at them if you want to see. So, you're building, but what kind of guidelines are they?
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Because there's so much information, I'll give you. There were such guidelines before COVID, there were such guidelines on digital transformation. It's like a bunch of experts from around the world are gathering, they have a think tank, they have really smart people working there.
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These aren't political puppets who snort cocaine in public, yes, like this condemnation of the use of prohibited substances.
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Yes, absolutely right. So, uh, these are serious, intelligent people. They have think tanks. These think tanks, they publish reports. Look how this government works. They don't have like a Politburo or some kind of secret phone. Let's do this now. They need to
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get the message across to all those who implement it, not just those in a close circle. How do they get it across? They They deliver reports through these think tanks. We do this and that and so on. We were marching in step. Remember,
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if you remember, if the Rockefeller Center, this was the main blueprint for working during COVID. They all followed it. There were others. Now, for a year and a half or two, several reports have been in existence—I'll give you some
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—that clearly outline the government's actions in the event of an energy crisis. So you know, this has been their main topic for a couple of years now.
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And what do they want? So, first of all, the first thing is to restrict driving. Their first recommendation, at a minimum, is to do this for even numbers. You'll soon see even and odd license plates. Today, only even numbers can drive on the
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roads, tomorrow, odd numbers. These are all think tanks. That's their first recommendation. The second recommendation is to set heating and cooling thresholds so that cooling your space below a certain temperature is prohibited, and, uh, heating it above that,
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right? So, then, well, there's a lot about switching to electric, everything , everything, everything, everything is mixed up.
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Anything, just don't buy oil and gas from Russia. Yeah, well, of course, but that's why refineries explode. They don't just burn like matches. I mean, I can send you the reports. By the way, the video will be interesting. You can just analyze this
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report yourself. It's like tomorrow's news today. It's crazy. So, what do you think, in what perspective? Is it in 2026, in 2027?
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And I think it's when diesel reserves run out. The thing is, the global economy in general, the economy in general is such a resilient thing, and it's very hard to kill. You beat it and beat it, but people still want to live,
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they keep moving. Well, yes. COVID, by the way, has shown that people somehow... Yes, yes, absolutely right. Same thing with this diesel. That is, perhaps they were already expecting a collapse, but it hasn't happened. Somewhere Reserves, somewhere in some countries, there are
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reserves. Some people have gotten busy, somewhere people are traveling less, but there's no collapse. That is, when —look, how it will be, when this collapse comes—they always do what they do, mind you, very rarely. This usually happens in Russia, for example,
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when the government suddenly unleashes some unpopular thing on the people. They generally don't do that. They usually create a demand so that the people themselves will beg:" Give us this law, finally, give us this vaccine here, or is there a shortage there? "
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Yes, yes, yes. I remember well how during COVID, people who were used to criticizing the government's actions, our liberal oppositionists, at the right moment began shouting:" Yes, we need to grab them at gunpoint, at machine gun point, and shoot them, and
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yes, yes, yes. "" grab, grab and stab. "Yes, yes, yes. And I think it might be logical that if, uh, a fuel collapse happens, yes, then the people will ask the government: do something. After all , they can't allow diesel prices to
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rise to such a level that only the rich can drive. It won't be very fun for people to walk the streets and see that they're walking, and the rich are driving. Accordingly, even, even will be adopted as a popular measure for the
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sake of the common man, because even and odd don't know the difference between rich and poor. What do you mean , today, tomorrow is odd, we capped prices, naturally, we capped fuel prices, but there's just not enough of
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it. Well, like that, yes, for example, the same thing with food: we gave diesel to some, and not to others.
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Accordingly, this is the destruction of any de-stated farming, yes. Who will get diesel, all sorts of agroholdings and so on. That is, there are a lot of plans here, and I I think they're waiting for the collapse to happen, so
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that we'll demand it, so that the people won't react to it at all. Wow, you're forbidding us from traveling there. No, thanks, I can go somewhere once in a while, right? But look, to be honest, you're not the first person
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I've heard this exact forecast from. We need to somehow come to terms with it, realize it, accept it, and forgive it.
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Look, regarding the situation in Russia . We seem to have oil, but we have problems with refining. They're hitting the energy structure. And these problems with the global oil fuel shock , will our SVO end after the end of the
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SVO, will it be suspended, or will it continue? I don't know, but I'll tell you.
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Remember, when there were negotiations in Alaska, we had a program with you right the day before, and there were so many expectations. I didn't really follow it, but I said something that, it seems to me, to this day, well, it's
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hard to refute it: that when some operation is working, well, like, You —let's be extremely cynical, like these people—you have some kind of business, you have a marketing strategy , it works, why would you stop it?
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What's the logic? That is, if this tragedy continues, but it clearly resembles a farce, yes, several dozen kilometers here and there, that is, no one wins anything, people go into the ground. If it continues for so long and
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no way out has been found, and ways out have certainly been, then it means there is some goal that it pursues and achieves. The question is, why stop it?
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Let's say there were some unrest, riots , soldiers refused to go into battle, there bayonets in the ground, uh, so, how it was there, there peace to the huts, war to the palaces, something like that. Then, perhaps, one could say
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:" Well, well, it needs to be stopped. "But why now? I don't see it. Therefore , not all these promises, negotiations, after all, it is clear that this is not decided in the field of public policy.
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This is decided somewhere in In some incomprehensible depths, in the abysses , there, in the depths of Satan.
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Therefore, it seems to me that there is no reason to say that this will happen after the conflict ends. Maybe it will remain, maybe I have no inside information, but to me, it seems that if the goal is, well, look, it’s
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purely logical, these main think tanks are the mouthpieces of action, and they publish guidelines for governments.
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Well, imagine, some, well, some country there, as they said there, well, no offense, Estonia is the most independent country in the world, right ? Nothing depends on it there. Well, that is, or any country that is not large, let it be a good country, good
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people, well, they have some officials there, they should know what to do. How will they know? They won’t be called by there—I don’t know, there’s the head of the BKR and says: “You see, this is what they are opening.”"
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Well, they have experts, but these experts are also clueless. " In other words, a system of indirect control has been built, right? They take these reports from these think tanks. Why? Because these experts constantly attend conferences and get-togethers at these very centers
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, where they have connections, where they receive reports. It seems like this think tank is informal, but in essence, it is a governing body. And then four, the big four audit firms, come with presentations to our officials and say," Guys, best global
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practice, the best experts. This is what we should strive for, yes. "And, by the way, I did exactly the same stream on documents. There was another round of documents at the end of 24 on cybersecurity, where all the
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think tanks defined, so the main conclusion was that the word" cybersecurity "needs to be redefined.
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This isn't about data security from hackers, but about protecting people from the influence—that is, the manipulation—of manipulative, unscrupulous bloggers, gamers, and so on, neural networks. That is, roughly speaking, from you and me, that is, cybersecurity is already built into
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many systems. That is, at the right moment, let's say, right now—I'm throwing out this idea, like, well, now Elon Musk, everyone's screaming that neural networks will get out of control , and so on, and so forth, yes—at the
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right moment, panic is created, and they declare those they don't like to be oppositionists, not opponents, but cybercriminals, because they're spreading complex, dangerous opinions in cyberspace. That's also true. They have guidelines for all sorts of situations when a trigger occurs.
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Experts who sit in various governments —yes, they know. We take this guide, and they simply look at everything according to it, and only occasionally might they consult with their colleagues on some technical issues.
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That's it. And that's how it works. And these politicians, they just told me they're experts, they don't decide anything in general. Well, not all, but the majority.
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We call this a foreign agent for now, but, as they say, it's not over yet. So these are the real foreign agents. Not you, but these things. But nevertheless , I think they will be implemented in sync. We march in step, as before.
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I keep sitting and wondering which country I'm a foreign agent for. I'd like to know some certainty, you know, but ah, dear friends, thank you to Danil Sachkov. We participate in the work of Bastion and Barteron whenever possible. I'm not advertising anything,
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of course, I'm just thinking out loud. I can't advertise anything now. Daniel, thank you. All the best. Until next time.
Speaker A
Thanks for the invitation. Goodbye. Good luck.
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