CRAZY HOOKUPS, WIG ERAS & SOBRIETY – Emma Rose (Gagged … — Transcript

Welcome back to the Gag Podcast. I'm your host, Bella Joey. And I'm Leah Hayes. And today we have a very exciting guest for you. We have the beautiful, gorgeous, a multi-award winner, Emma Rose. Hello. Hello. Hello. Nice to be here. And if you don't know, now you know. And you know if you have internet.

Yeah. If you watch any of porn, you've probably seen me. Oh, for sure. [Music] You're the most searched on partnerships this year, right? Uh, I am. I have the most views but not the most, uh, not the most profile views because I was seeing Puppy Girl XO. She was number one and she's been working really hard this year. So happy for her. I love it. Girls deserve it. Girls deserve it. Yeah.

Okay. So, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. Feel like we're going to like just talk about some kiki fun stuff. Yeah. I mean, obviously you've done a lot like business-wise, award-wise, all of that stuff, which is phenomenal. But I just want to hear some like crazy stories from you. It'll be so good. We're going to dive in deep. Yeah.

Well, we, we've known you for a minute and it's been, it's been, it's been a ride every time we're around her. Yeah.

Something. So, how did you like get your start in all of it? Just to kind of give a little breakdown for the people that don't know that backstory. So, um, I am 28 right now, but I started sex work in general way back when I was 19. I was 18 with a 33-year-old boyfriend and I broke up with him because I wanted to be a hoe in college and I'm like, I need to make money. So, I started dancing and escorting. Um, and then that was during college. So I have my marketing degree and after that I was like just dancing and traveling a lot. But then when COVID hit back in 2020, I'm like I can't see anybody in person and also I can't dance. So that was when I really took that jump and that leap to go to Vegas, moved here. So I could finally start porn and that was like during COVID time nobody lived in Vegas. Okay. And, um, that was when I ran into one of my probably my worst nights. And then but then after that I started my career. Yeah. The rest is history. The rest is history. And you're from Florida, right? Eventually. Yeah. Yeah.

I grew up on a farm in Florida, so I was a little, a little bit of a redneck.

Probably still am a little bit more country still at times, especially when I get tired. I think my twin comes out.

But, uh, I grew up in Lakeland, so it's not that far from Tampa. No, not far from Tampa. It's like a tiny town. Lots of farms. Very redneck. So she, she got out, honey. She went to the big city and

she started spreading her legs. Yes, girl. Spread your legs and fly. Yes. And flap.

That too. That too. I love that. So, okay. So, you've been on many sets. So, you started with studio or did you start with OF? Uh, I started OF back in 2019.

I was, yeah, back when, um, there was no verification or anything. You could just film a guy on the side of the street. What a time to be alive. What a time. Oh, it was super. It was so easy

shooting back then. So now I rarely shoot with anybody out of the industry. I usually just shoot, um, people in, uh, professional porn, but this year I'm actually taking a whole entire year off from studio work. Much deserved and much

needed. And then just doing a whole lot of streaming and solos and trying to branch off and diversify right now. I love that. That's like a lot probably less. Well, it's still pressure like schedule-wise and stuff, but less

pressure than like set work for sure. Definitely less way less travel. Yeah, that too. No, totally. So, like what's one of the craziest things that's happened to you on set? It could be OF Club or studio. Uh, on set it would

definitely be my TRX scare, which is why I stopped using Trimmix in general. Oh.

Uh, I was on a Ricky Greenwood set and I had one of those auto injectors. So, I knew someone that had they were great whenever I'm like, I don't want to like stab my dick. Um, and it went too deep.

I guess it went all the way down to my throat. I didn't know. I would just know that it hurt. So, I'm ready to work and all of a sudden I'm like bleeding and I'm like I'm trying to figure out where

I'm bleeding from. If it was from like the injection side and it was just leaking out of my dick like just leaking like crazy as if I was precoming blood and I was like, "Oh God." So then I

started crying of course. And then this director is like, "Are you ready?" And I'm like, "Do I look ready?" You're like, "Is this okay?" Oh. And after that, I'm just like, I haven't used it. Um, I've used it a couple times,

but usually if I'm like designated top at orgy. Yeah. Okay. No, when there's a lot of moving parts like that, some assistance is helpful. Very necessary. Yeah. I've actually heard of that happening to one other girl and it

was like an OF collab and like the person that gave it to her had never seen that happen before and it was like one of her first times doing it. So, it was like full panic and then like,

"Okay, we need to cancel." And she went home. I was like, "No, I'd be full tears." And then I was like, "I think I need to leave my body now because this is what we're doing." No. My, my heart

definitely left my body. Um, the worst collab I've ever done in person for OF, though. It was in Miami. I won't say his name. Um, because but also I was really pissed off. Uh, I was in Miami only for

a couple days. His girlfriend was out of town, but like they both do porn. Um, and so I'm like, it was his first trans collab, so he never shot with a trans girl. And I was like, "Okay, are you

nervous? Is you good?" And then I'm sitting on his couch and like he keeps calling his girlfriend because his girlfriend's having an issue with her family. Understandable. Um, but I'm like, "Okay, like once you film, I can leave." I see the look on his face when

he comes back out of the bedroom when I'm sitting in. I'm like, "We're not shooting today, are we?" And he was just like, "I am so sorry. I can bring your hotel." And I'm like, "Don't even. It's fine. It's fine."

But like, if I'm sitting on your couch in lingerie about to film, oh, no, she was like ready to go. She was ready. We were both ready. And I was That was probably one of my most I'm like, "All

right, that's [expletive] up." Wait, so the girlfriend came home? No, the girlfriend wasn't even in town. She was with her family. And so the guy, he was like, "I'm going to have to go like fly out

tomorrow." And I'm just like, I mean, we can [expletive] real quick. Like literally, you can do 20 minutes.

Otherwise, it would have took another clamp that day if I'm only in town for like three. No, totally. Because the schedules can be very like flaking like before everything happens compared to you're on the couch like ready to film

in 5 minutes. Lights were set up and everything. Yeah. Oh, no. I'd be like, can I just do a solo here real quick? I need to use this glam. So annoying.

Worse. Oh my gosh. No, I definitely have never been sitting on the couch, but it's like 10 minutes before or they're like, "Oh, I'm running 20 minutes late." And then they're like, "Actually, I'm not coming." I'm like, "Okay, so you

were never on the way." Right. Yeah. Some accountability would be nice. That's something I was actually just talking to a director about. Um, because I just recently started doing studio and he was like it's hard because in this

industry there's lack of accountability because typically people don't like if people don't have management or they don't have people holding them accountable they can just like flake at any point and then it just screws up everyone's everything is so annoying.

Yeah. No 100%. That's the pits. Yeah, for sure. Um, outside of like collabs and whatever hookup wise, what's your craziest hookup story? Oh Jesus. Which one? It could just be like funny. It could be crazy. Could be messy

in multiple ways. Um, give us the scoop. Oh my goodness. I'm trying to think because there's so many um that I know.

Honestly, I think probably like the I

in 5 minutes. Lights were set up and everything. Yeah. Oh, no. I'd be like, can I just do a solo here real quick? I need to use this glam. So annoying.

worse. Oh my gosh. No, I definitely have never been sitting on the couch, but it's like 10 minutes before or they're like, "Oh, I'm running 20 minutes late." And then they're like, "Actually, I'm not coming." I'm like, "Okay, so you

were never on the way." Right. Yeah. Some accountability would be nice. That's something I was actually just talking to a director about. um cuz I just recently started doing studio and he was like it's hard because in this

industry there's lack of accountability cuz typically people don't like if people don't have management or they don't have people holding them accountable they can just like flake at any point and then it just screws up everyone's everything is so annoying.

Yeah. No 100%. That's the pits. Yeah, for sure. Um outside of like collabs and whatever hookup wise, what's your craziest hookup story? Oh Jesus. Which one? It could just be like funny. It could be crazy. Could be messy

in multiple ways. Um, give us the scoop. Oh my goodness. I'm trying to think cuz there's so many um that I know.

Honestly, I think probably like the I was back in Florida. All my mag the Florida ones were crazy. And then you throw a little bit of grinder in there and it is a really Oh my god, it's a hot mess. Yeah, because you like

have someone like on a farm that's like DL and they're trying to like [ __ ] you on the cornfield or something wild. You know what I mean? I used to get [ __ ] in the orange grove out when I was

back when I was like back in high school because um the high school that I went to was surrounded by orange trees. It was just like in an orange grove. And so um no, it was probably the the craziest

like story. I was at um a fetish party which honestly I was um and so I had like an issue with my feet first of all I hate my feet but I was having like an infection going on and I was like you

know what I don't want to have any feet out or anything like that and this guy is like I don't care I want to suck but your feet I'm like fine. So I'm like you're not kissing me. Boom. And it's at

a party so he's literally eating like licking my toes and I'm like oh my god I have to go. I have to go. And then all of a sudden like me me and my friends are getting ready to go cuz like I broke

my nose was like like broken down the middle. So anyways and I'm leaving and I see him making out with this random girl and I felt so bad for her. I was just like I'm never going to any of these

fetish parties ever again. Ever. Ever. The last time I went to a fetish party I think got an STD. Oh well, you know.

Definitely do one since. No. That's wild. No parties like that can go pretty insane. I feel like Oh my god.

or know what to expect, you know, and like even though the test it's like everybody has to be like even if it's 2 weeks, 2 weeks can be a long time, especially if there's like 15 people.

Oh, so we actually just talking about that and we're like if you're hooking up with like more than 10 people, it's like all those people who have they [ __ ] in that it's just like you [ __ ] a tiny

village worth of people. You're going to get something from that. No, that's so Yeah, cuz we just did an orgy and there was like 12 people and we're like, "Wow, that's actually kind of crazy." Yeah. The one girl who we

collabed with is like technically we just slept with like 100 people. Like can we not talk about that? Like how many people have you slept with girls?

I'm like if all 100 people were there not my choice. Some of these be [ __ ] ugly people.

I'm like okay honey I'm not want to talk. We've all done a little bit of charity work here and there.

Some of us used to be the charity work, but [ __ ] days. But yeah, [ __ ] days.

Early days. Early days. Just some fishnuts in a dream. Shake and go wig. Yeah.

I'm so glad we never had like a wig era like Oh, I'm about to go back in my wig era, but like sick getting lace front era. But the back the shake and go wigs with the hard front and the hard part.

No, mine was black to gray. Poland. But Poland trade down still, which is scary.

I was like, there's sometimes you can make more. Yeah. No, the sissies have evolved. No, they do. I see some on Reddit. I'm like, woo, honey, you're thriving. Yes, girl. Fully functional.

Okay, so we have like kind of a serious question. No, it's super serious. Just like Yeah, you don't have to answer like if you don't want to because I know it's like it can be like a lot. It's a touchy

subject. It is. Mhm. Okay. Um, do you do you like Do you Do you ever miss your testicles? I do.

Um, so not in the not in the aspect that I miss them that they're there. I just miss that. I miss so many years of taking testosterone cuz I'm on testosterone now. I'm on progesterone, DHA pregnnolone testosterone steroids

on and off. It's like I the whole So that's why since oop, sorry. since I don't have to take try mix or I don't take try mix I need everything to work in tandem with each other but sometimes

I miss I I miss that um missing so many years of not knowing like my own body that when I got them removed I shrunk a lot I lost a lot of function I went bat [ __ ] crazy for a little bit um and I

think that like finding finding a good endocrinologist rather than just a hormone doctor or somebody who's just going to be pumping you full of random [ __ ] um finding Finding someone you can actually like look over all of your

levels with and making sure they work is nice. So I miss just having them naturally there where I could just like balance out. But now I I keep my hormones on like a tight schedule and very well. So I do miss them. Okay. So

more along like the hormonal side like you wish you had them. But like what about like physically? Um like you know when you're jerking off just like I can still come like I can still like come a lot now especially with all my stuff.

Like I can still like produce a low especially if I'm edging like I can like I will have come flowing over my entire hand. But the balls themselves. No, not really. Just because comfortwise it's so easy to tuck. I don't even have to tuck

and it's just what a dream there. The dream on literally. Yeah. But when I had my balls removed, um I have I have a video on my I think it's my laptop, but it's like of course I flushed my balls

down the toilet, but there was this one video I had I was so high on painkills at the time that I threw I was trying to throw it out the toilet and then I saw my friend in the bathtub. So I just

threw it at her and it like landed right there like on the side of the tub and she's like, "You nasty vision." I'm like, "I'm sorry." And it was I had big balls, too. Like cuz us I was 21 and they were in their

prime. They were in their prime. Do you feel like when you did that that helped transition like faster because there was such a lack of testosterone like physically like aesthetically in the beginning? Possibly just because I went to a shady doctor and I transitioned in

April of 2017. I had my balls cut off the same the same year in August. So, I was only on hormones for 4 months. Oh, what? I didn't realize it was so close together. Oh, yeah. Like I didn't I

didn't get asked for a letter of anything. So, um I should get that money and sue him. But it was definitely And he let me keep them. And which is also why he's like, "Don't say my name, otherwise I can lose

my license." Totally. Yeah. Um and it was only like 2500 bucks. That's so inexpensive. Like that's He literally just numbed me up, chopped it off, and sent me on his way. He did a pinectomy on like this like

18-year-old. They remove everything, the balls, the deck, and they leave you with a gash. That's not even a [ __ ] It's just like they sew you up and give you a little kind hole. Okay. Like a superficial [ __ ] Yeah. He was I was

just flat. It's like like with a hole. Yeah. I went to a sh just just the urethra. And so he was kind of like I don't know. I just I mean he he was a urologist. So yeah. No,

that's why one thing I've learned is like talking to more girls. If you really want it, you can hunt for it and you will find it one way or another.

Whether it's Craigslist or the black market or a client, somebody you're getting it somehow. Yeah. No, that's so wild. No, we both still have ours, so I don't know. We've like talked about it, but I would say that if you want to get

SRS Mhm. get your balls removed. If not, keep them. No. Right. Yeah, cuz over like over time like now by now I feel like they would be little peanuts and it would have made sense. Like I thought they're like so it's was painful to

tuck. It was just there. I mean like plus I had like low hanging balls or like I would like sit on them. I'm like no. So I still have the scrotum skin but um I might get that removed just so it's

like super smooth underneath. But I mean, it feels good to play with whenever high sex like with the nerves, so I'm like, eh. No, totally. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like it's good. But we'll see. We've thought about it. Only

time will tell. I don't know. Swing them around. Yeah. No, literally just a little laugh though. Wrap around the guy's neck, grip them in. Whenever you do not have balls, you cannot use a [ __ ] ring. Oh, I never thought about that.

Yeah, there's times when I'm like, I really need a [ __ ] right now. Right now.

If I'm like, of course, if I'm like having a good time and like it's just not working, I'm like, "Oh, yeah." And plus, I shrunk I've shrunk about like an inch and a half. So, I used to have a great And it used to be like I

used to have a thicker head and now it's everything's like very It's very It's very sheen. It's very cute. It's very feminine.

I will say though, you put your whole body into your thrusts cuz I remember I remember when we collabed and I was like, "Oh, like it's like on like the smaller side." I'm like I'm used to like taking like bigger but I remember just

like feeling your like pelvis smashing mine. I was like, "Oh, that actually feels really good." Oh, chicken [ __ ] I learned that when I was started [ __ ] a lot of sis women and so um how it's like with doing it's

just very different like the mechanics and so I feel like honestly I feel like I became I became better at [ __ ] when I started [ __ ] like all genders. Well yeah cuz there's like more to learn so

you kind of like curve the way that you do it. Like an [ __ ] is just kind of like an [ __ ] There's not as many like nerves and things to pay attention to and like places to rub. So it's just

of like in and just go. Absolutely. Different vibes. Pound. Sometimes we like that, sometimes we don't. No, totally. 100%. Yeah. I don't know. I love a good pound.

Love it. Mhm. Oh my gosh. So, what's something that you would want to do? Well, now you're kind of stepping out of studio. So, what's something you want to do if you ever decide to like leave the industry? Content collab or

studio-wise that I feel like you haven't done, which I feel like you've done. What would I do? I would I think that I'm always going to be in the adult sphere. Uh, just because I I know it by

the back of my hand. I have a marketing degree with a concentration in brand management. And so, whenever it comes to like seeing yourself as a brand or helping other girls, I think that I'm really good at that. So, if I ever left

the industry, I think that I would do open up a consultation firm that would help girls figure out their markets. I would never want to manage girls. That's hard. But I would love to consult girls, tell them what they need to do, and then

leave them to their own devices. Okay, that's cool. No, that's like a really good way to like pivot and be within the industry without being in front of the camera, which would be a cool way to And it's hands off cuz you say your piece

and then they go and apply that to their own stuff. instead of you being like, "Are you keeping on top of it?" Then they're like, "No, no, absolutely." Cuz management is so hard. Um, but I am starting my production company

soon. Oh, fun. Yes. I just got my lighting and uh getting studio already and stuff. So, I'm excited. So exciting.

I want to get behind the camera and director. Yes. Congratulations. No, that's a big stop. That's awesome.

And it's cool because it would be nice to have like a trans woman in that sphere because I feel like a lot of times it's sis men. Nothing wrong with the sis men but it's like a good way to

just like a few new okay we can't girl oh my god but I will say that u in die time in the industry I feel like a lot of the directors who are have been that like don't give any [ __ ] about my rate

or anything are usually people who are queer themselves. Oh 100%. Um, just because I think that they understand like how much that we put into it. And I think that's really important. And that's like the acknowledgement of like

I'm working hard and it's like some of these girls need to work harder but um I won't say no names but uh I think that as an industry having somebody who's like already gets it who's already been in the industry um

I can I have so much to give and like there's a lot of blank space um in the industry that we can like definitely take and like evolve without having to be under the restraints of such a big

company. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I love that because I mean as as people that are not like cisgendered the way that we perform and like the effort that goes into it prior to even getting there.

Like if I had a [ __ ] oh my god, just showing up to set doing like a little just a little clear out and opening up my legs that would be amazing. But you're bottoming, you're restricting eating, you're prepping, you're doing so

much, and then there's the functionality part. So you're, you know, worrying about functioning and performing. So it's just like a lot of added stress. I feel better. I think that the functionality is the hardest part cuz cleaning it's like usually unless you

have like IBS or something like that. I like a lot of like fiber richch um foods is really important. And then shooting more I feel like has actually given me a better diet, a better fitness routine, a better routine um rather than just like

my stripper days. Oh no. I was you know like those food outside that they would cook at the strip every night.

She's been getting tacos. like extra peppers and onions and just and that was great cuz I was working till 6 a.m. Uh I was working Yeah. Oh yeah. No like no I will I will I will [ __ ] on you. Yeah. And if it's

not that kind of scene honey then you know we're not trying to make it happen.

One thing like about Tampa though was like they had a lot of different options for dancing as well. And I I was dancing at uh back but what I think it was like club skin uh players club now. And then

I was danced at oh my god I was like my scariest story of when I was dancing stealth in Tampa. I was dancing at Lookers at the time and they called me white honey. And so I was like my name

was Chloe Valentine whenever I was dancing and like I didn't want people to know that I was trans because I was like undercover which was and this was before titties before my face done. I was just I had 35 extra pounds. So I feel like

the pudgginess kind of like helped me be a little bit more feminine and then I lost all that weight whenever I started porn. Regret it. should have got a BBL.

Um, and then so I remember my tape. I would tape the good thing about not having a huge dick is instead of tucking it backwards, I would tape my dick inward like a taco. So I push it in,

pull it down kind of where it was like almost like the nub where it would make it was down, fold the skin over it and put duct tape over it and then put like a flesh colored and then wear a strappy

outfit. Oh my god. But uh, it popped out like a Jack in the Box. Okay. Like dance. Yes. Thank god I had my panties on, but I felt my that duct tape rip off the skin and I was like, "Oh no, they

will take turns beating my ass." So, I was super super scared. I started crying. U cry. And so, I was like, "I have to get on stage." And so, I ran grabbed all my things out of the locker

room and just ran out. And they're just like, "You still have to jump on them." The guy was like, "Are you okay?" And I was like, "Am I having a panic attack?" Yeah. Never saw my ass again. Oh no. Cuz

in that sort of setting, especially with like men that aren't aware, they do a little little trap, a little trick, they are like they can get very aggressive, very angry. It's the ones who are attracted to you and then realize and

then Yeah. They can't handle it. And they will [ __ ] you up. Okay. They are crazy. No, absolutely. Like Vegas is not Vegas. They're just They're okay here.

Yeah. No. And I feel like Vegas isn't that big. And so a lot of the guys that are is bigger than Vegas. Oh, for sure.

Yeah, 100%. It just feels bigger cuz like everyone's here all the time like flying in from different places. Yeah.

But like the actual places to live is not as not as big. I feel like there's not as many residents so it's Yeah. If you take like Tampa down to like Sarasota and like even like stopping like where like it's isn't Wesley Chapel

technically greater. Yeah. No, totally. And then you have like CP all of it. I love it. Oh yeah. I love St. Pete now.

So good. It's so fun. Yeah. I'm trying to get her back out there. We'll see. I went once. I went to like a nude a nude beach or what was it? Was it passage? Okay. Oh, over by the water was

so warm. I was like, we don't have this in Canada. They have jellyfish over there. I got stung. Yeah. Been so warm.

We were running around tents out. So fun. Cute little. That's what I love about I've been holler plenty of times and that's in North Miami. And that one is very like if you go to pier 13 to 15

the gays is a good party but if you want a client go over by 1 to 5. Oh okay.

Okay. Might be committed. Yeah. Let's go. Wait. Are you talking about the beaches? Holl. Yeah. Holl. I think I went there actually once and this guy So I was there with my friends and this guy comes over obviously naked. We're naked.

He's like flirting with us and I'm like eye level with his dick because we're like lying down in recliner and he's like talking to my friend and then I just see like drips like coming from his dick and I was like, "Oh, is that like

sweat?" I like zone out. Zone back in like 5 minutes later. It's like kind of like defying gravity now. Like it's up a bit. It's holding space. Yeah. And then it's like leaking leaking. He This dude was like pre-coming just from talking to

us and I was like what? Like I need to go. Like this is so weird. It's like kind of hot but also overwhelming cuz he hot. It was okay.

The fives [ __ ] harder though. Yeah, I think they really work. I don't know.

No, they do. They try to earn their spot. And then there's this weird couple and they're doing tedric massages and then they want one and I was like, no, I got to leave. You're like, I got a glass. Yeah, that was my experience.

Oh my gosh. Oh, hover over. But uh if you want to just like party and not be like hit on by weirdos, I think it's I think it's like like the lifeguard station 13 through 15 is the gay side.

But [ __ ] got handles of [ __ ] liquor party alcoholic. No, I love it. I went there recent not recently like a few months ago and it was like a bunch of girls had left I think club extra tea girls and they were

out there full glitter cut crease in the middle of the day in the sun. You can tell they were just vibing. I was like, "Okay, honey." I was like, "You get it." Yeah. They moved club extra now to like

to Wilson Manners. It was I used to be in Hollywood. I used to dance there uh before they got raided. Um Oh, yeah. It was like the bartender. I think she got fired and she was busy and so she like

call the cops on the place and they got raided. I was like, "Thank God I was not there." But I would o I love club extra because you would make [ __ ] That's what I heard. Girls were pulling in

money. Yeah. And you don't even have to do anything. I feel like the other places were way more like they're trying to touch you. I'm like, "No, you're not touching me. It is dark in here. I cannot see nothing." No. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Dating. We want to know, how does Miss Emma Rose, being who you are, navigate dating in the industry? Oh god. Well, dating while you're in the industry. Yeah, I know. I understand. There's so many layers, you

know? It's like first of all just dating if you're anybody, but then it's like dating when you're trans and then dating as like an adult performer. Like how do you handle that and navigate that too?

So, I feel like I have not had the greatest luck in my dating. I've only dated uh I've only while I've been in the industry, I've only dated three people. So, in my whole life, I've only had five long-term relationships. Okay.

Um, so, um, one was, uh, a guy who was bigger in the industry in the gay community and then he fell off because of his own stupid comments. Um, and then I had another guy who was kind of

getting into the industry, went on a revenge tour after we broke up, but then I dated a trans girl, another trans girl, uh, for about a year. Um, and then we broke up. We're good friends now. But I feel like now, like definitely going

in this year, I'm trying to stay single, you know, at least having something like maybe just like for intimacy, but I don't. Yeah. But I have like been working on myself a lot this year and like finding like what

makes me truly happy before going back into another relationship. Um, but I think the hardest thing is finding somebody who is I don't know if I would be in another non- monogous relationship per se as in like I don't want I don't want to do

anything separately. Uh cuz I've learned how I am and that like my own weaknesses and um I wouldn't say jealousies but definitely like my skepticism on people.

That's something I don't really like. I'm like side eye. like your partner like trusting someone and then you being like weary of them kind of thing. Exactly.

But I also love being a unicorn in other people's relationships where I'm just like I want to [ __ ] and I want to go or at least hang out. I can still hang out with a couple and um not feel weird not

having sex. So I like that dynamic. Um I just don't know if I could have that in my own. So right now I just want to be I just want a third wheel. I want to be a tricycle.

No, I love that. And I feel like that's good that like you realize that too, you know, because you have to go through different types of relationships in order to in order to get what you really want and don't want. And like non-

monogous relationships are definitely very difficult. Even if you do everything together, it's still sometimes like a hard concept to grasp and like being able to set boundaries and like it's ever changing. So it's like, oh, I wasn't upset with this this

time, but like this upcoming time, I'm like, no, this like isn't good. So then it can be confusing. Yeah. Yeah. So, communication is definitely key. I think that after dating a woman um it was my first lesbian relationship. I definitely

want to explore that more and even dating like a sis girl when I was like I don't think I would ever date a sis girl like a few years back and now I'm like I definitely would. Um, so I want to

explore kind of like my little sappic lesbian side where it's because like the emotional intelligence a lot of that is like we can just talk and then like it's not really an attack and like being with another trans girl. It was really great

whenever like they would just get it instead of just having to be like, "Okay, like I'm not going to fit into a box that a lot of men do like want you to." But at the same time, it's I'm such

a fluid person. Like I feel like just as much as I am versatile, a top and a bottom, I am also very bisexual, very men, women, uh anything in between. Um I just love I just love love.

And also for my It's weird. I was like I went from gay to gayer. uh whenever I transition because whenever it's so funny talking to a boy that I liked whenever I was in like middle school and back in the day like when the phones

were all connected um like in your house my dad came around the corner and I was just like oh my god I was like I got to go and he was like listen I don't care if you're the [ __ ] in the relationship

just like don't if I don't if you're my dad said I don't care if you're gay just don't be the [ __ ] in the relationship and I'm like surprise even then I feel like in a relationship ship. I am definitely more of like the

not the masculine, but definitely like I like to take charge. And I think that's also why I butt heads with a lot of men wherever I'm like I am the bread winner.

I am like the like person who makes a lot of the decisions. Uh and like you wear the pants. I do. I do. And so even like whenever I want to be treated like a princess, I'm still like no like

you're mine. Like you're my puppy dog. Okay. No, I could see that cuz I feel like especially like as you can grow in this business, you do have to make like a lot of decisions and you are just

constantly like navigating your schedule and like you're in your bag and like that's just what comes in the industry and so if someone isn't like that and they are more submissive, it's just really easy to like step in to that

role. Absolutely. I'm like sit down and look pretty, please. Yeah. No, literally. I I feel like I struggle with that a lot too cuz I'm like I'm so like I want to be treated like the princess but I'm also an Aries and I'm like I

like to like go after what I want. So I'm just like chase me like chase me and then I end up like chasing that and then it's just I don't get what I want. So then I just see myself out. I'm like be

single for five more years. No, with men that's definitely like hard for sure cuz it's like I'm seeing someone and they are really good at just kind of like letting me take the reins on things but it doesn't like emasculate them which is

so important cuz I feel like with cis men traditionally they don't like that and so it's like and then I'm kind of like I'm getting the I'm like oh you have to be like the man so much that

like you can't let me step at that point. No, I know. I'm like okay calm down. Like are you insecure? Like I'm embarrassed.

Yeah, I know. I'm That's why I like miss dating gay men. It was just like so much easier like cuz there wasn't any like any like gender expectations like Oh yeah. I like you like I'm reaching out to you or vice versa and then you just

kind of went with the flow and then I feel like post transition they've all been like disasters like such a disaster or they want to be complete princesses and it's like I love like as a versatile person I feel like also like how I dress

or like a lot of the places like it mimic like it reflects what I feel like that day like sometimes if I want to be a super girly girl I have no set style some days I will dance I will like dress

really butchy I'll dress like little fairy girl and then sometimes I'll dress like super like like fairy girl. And it's like I think that I need someone who is just as versatile as I am.

Wherever like they see that like we can both be feminist together. We can both be butchy together. We can both be whatever in between. So it's nice to be with somebody who is like as expressive as I am. Yeah. And I could see how that

would be much easier with a a woman of any capacity. Way definitely a queer woman. So yeah.

No, definitely. Oh my god. I love that. just like self-discovery and like it's so cool that you got to do that like in front of the camera and behind and just like really explore. I turned 29 next month and like my biggest goal this year

was like finding myself and then going into my 30s at least a healed if not almost healed woman. Yeah. Uh because I'm like I definitely lost that Peter Pan syndrome that like feeling of like I don't have to change for anybody and I'm

like oh no I do. I do because I want to be happy. I need to. Yeah. Well that's on growth. Do you know what I mean?

Totally. Would you be able to date someone in like sex work or would you want to date someone outside of sex work? I feel like they would have to just be very mature. So I definitely someone who um but also I've dated like

I've dated everywhere. It was pretty much every age. Like my boyfriend when I was 21 was 48 and I made more money than him.

So been there. So, it's like I think that it's just very I need I need someone who is emotional. My love language is physical touch and words of affirmation cuz I never got that enough as a kid. But,

um trauma. Yeah. And it's it's but it's important for somebody to match that. Um my ex, her last love language was physical touch. And so it took it was like a it was a barrier that like it was

really hard to get through just because of past traumas and like how we prefer to be loved. And so finding someone who is just it doesn't matter if they're in sex work or not. I think finding someone who compliments me instead of who is

mirrors me is important. Yeah. So no that is really important. She's stronger than I because I could not do someone in sex work kind of. Oh, no. It's like very territorial. Like that's all mine, but like I will follow your boundaries

outside of that. I think I'd have to be dating them for like a long time before I was like ready to like relinquish them into the the sphere. That's just a lack of self. Yeah. No, I was I was very I

was very territorial. So like in my past relationship my past relationships but it was because I think that whenever you are just like I think especially with a men since I made more than them um it was like a

very different power play when it was with men and with an ex-girlfriend like it was very different. So like with men I was very just like you're going to do what I tell you and I was like that's

toxic. 100% and like having that mindset like specifically with men that's like I don't need you and like I can do it on my own is just like a way of like flexing independence but also is like toxic because it's like I and not that I

I don't need you don't need anybody like you can survive on your own but it's important to acknowledge like I really want you and like it's not okay to do that. Yeah. The people that you date are should be an extension of yourself. And

it's like the people that you date, it's like this is the love that I think I deserve. Yeah. And I think that's a big thing that a lot of people it's like whenever like you're in a relationship and if you're questioning things, if

someone is like um are you lucky to have them? And if you say they're lucky to have me, then it's like okay, maybe you should rethink some things like it should be both if it's like a mutual relationship. Yeah. 100%. Both people

feel lucky. Yeah. So what is the project? We're back on the work a little bit. What's a project that you're most proud of that you've been a part of or helped direct or whatever? Yeah. Uh it was probably my most recent with my uh

with Adult Time, my showcase that I just did. Um so early 2024, I did an open letter for AVN. Um that like pretty much called out like, "Hey, uh we need to come to an agreement." And I was like

like it's you not like showing trans girls their flowers and especially not just trans girls but um disadvantaged performers including black performers PBWs uh especially like trans men who are coming in and who are doing a killing right now. Um it's just like it

shines a light that like hey like we're here and we make money and like these are the steps that you need to take. Um especially finding like a leazison between like the LGBT community and big corporations not just Aven. And so

whenever I had uh we got over 96 signatures on it. Um Oh yeah, I remember. Getting Yeah. I'll sign it.

And and so Brie Mills with adult time, she's like, "Hey, like that was whenever we got into talks about my ambassadorship. Um it ended on the 31st of December cuz I was like, I'm taking too much on my plate and I'm like going

crazy." So sometimes you can just do too much. Yeah. And with that, um, I was able to do a showcase about discovering myself, which is, uh, the title, and also about finding your own sexuality, but I was able to have pretty much like

the most diverse cast. Also, um, Victor Belmont was in was supposed to be a Polymoon RP. Um, but Victor Belmont, who was in industry for a long time, in the industry for a long time, um, was like one of the OGs. He was in my film. And

so it's nice just being able to like bring more people forward. And I'm hoping that that showcase can also help others like not feel like they're not the only ones. Like I feel like whenever me I was dating like some like girls and

stuff like they would be like, "Oh, I didn't realize that trans girls dated other women." Uh and so especially like being on other dates, I think that it was like um almost I don't know. I think sometimes it's a little taboo among

trans girls. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's amazing. Yeah, when I saw you working on that, I thought that that was like just a really cool opportunity and I felt like it was so great that someone um with like the platform and exposure that

you have was able to like do that and it's just showing like progression in the industry for sure. I got to work with Foxy Alex too. I saw that so good.

I love Fox. I love I love him so much. Uh it was definitely it was a really really fun scene and so I haven't really seen a lot of like fanboy and transgirl content on mainstream studio. Yeah. So,

it was nice to do that when the set and like the aesthetic of that shoot was like so beautiful. It was so good. And you got your like your like super positive critiques for that on like the top like like 10 movies for the year or

something. I was I was very nervous because my first scene was with Casey Calver um just lesbian scene. other one was, excuse me, my second one was with Steve Ricks and Casey Calbert as a threesome because they were the married

couple. Um, and like so those was like like this is what's going to make the fan base happy already. So then last year I was like I don't know if they're going to like it and it was really I was

really excited that it was received well. Yeah. And I can imagine that the fans and the viewers like saw the passion behind it and that just like for people that really enjoy you enjoy adult time like that probably just like got

them excited in general which is cool to like cultivate a group of people like that you know cuz that's I've read some comments on some of my other ones and I'm like oh that's that's not a good nice comment like all are just bad and

I'm like oh no they can't read I know. Yeah. No, that's something and and that's something that's like different getting into studio is like it's interesting like I've doing content for as long as I have like 3 years like

having creative control and like being able to like control like what's going out there and then doing studio work and showing up and then like seeing what they're putting out. I'm like oh wow I that's an interesting shot to like be

putting in there like whatever. So it's an off your own angles is [ __ ] even your makeup. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. And it's having like and it's there you're getting paid and I understand like I don't want to be a

diva. I don't want to be that much but there are some things where I'm like all right listen this is not going to fly.

Yeah. No. I'm like wow I'm giving a little bit more man than I usually do. I was like interesting. Do do you feel like you've gotten better at that? Like sticking up for like something you feel is like not working for you compared to

when you first started? Oh absolutely. I mean I was one of my very first years I was assaulted by a director. he no longer is working in the industry. Um, and so he was like, can I grab your

tits? And I was like, uh, sure. And I was like, I was like 3 months in. I was a baby. And I was like, yeah. I was like, I didn't know to say that no. Or it's like there's other things that I

would do more than I was comfortable with. Of course, at points, if you want to get very far in your career, there are some things where it's just like, hey, it's like is is this going if it's going against my morals, automatically

just say no. But it's like if this is giving more than I want to give or that I think that I am deserve pay especially at the beginning of your career of course you have to do more of course you

have to be flexible to a certain degree without you know compromising yourself your morals and just like comfortability you know there's a difference between feeling unsafe and feeling like something is pushing the boundaries getting taken advantage of versus like

oh this is going to be like uncomfortable to do but like I can do it type thing. I think that there's like a 14-hour day. That's like, no. Yeah. No, that's that's crazy. Yeah. And some of the days have been 14 hours, 16 hours.

And I'm just like Grenon Barrett. Gren Barrett. Yeah. No, totally. When that when that happened to you, was that the only guy on set like or was there other people? Oh, okay. No, it was only I was like, uh, that was in Miami. So, Oh,

okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Doesn't make it okay at all. Yeah. But you understand it's a very different industry state to state. Oh, 100%. And it makes it slightly better that there wasn't other people on set that just

like let it happen and like were bystanders. Still not okay. But um yeah, no, that's that's wild. That's awful.

Yeah, I've never really I've never had a bad experience on set with a director like that. But of course, other performers, some of them are weird. It's just like just setting up your boundaries very early. really think communication is very important.

Sometimes I do think that like too much paperwork can kill the vibe or like too much of a of a talk. It's it's really like this is how I feel. Like we don't have to go so far into it. If I feel

uncomfortable, I'll say stop. But other than that than that, I'm just like even then my my things. I might say no earlier and then I'm like no, you can totally do it. Like I was going to bottom today, but shove it in. Yeah.

Yeah. It can change as like you get more comfortable with the person. Definitely. Especially if you meet someone the same day. It's like I don't want to like stick. My thing is like uh I used to hate feet. Like I hate my

feet. But now it's like I'm like oh no. Am I become a foot fetish person? Like all of my things now I'm like sticking girls guys feet in my mouth and literally I realized I like that last year too. It's just like I was like

someone was [ __ ] me and then without warning he just like started sucking on my toes and I came so hard and I was like why do I like eat now? Like never even thought about it. And now I'm like

suck them. Also, I feel like it's one of those things like when you are in the industry or just like very sexual in general over time you're like, "Okay, like I've done so much like I need something else to give me like a little

bit of like spice." Yeah. I'm like, "Okay, just shove your gym feet in my mouth." You know what I mean? Well, I feel like I was so embarrassed and ashamed of liking, you know, like armpits or like an armpit. And then

finally like starting the industry really helped me like oh it's like all these [ __ ] like it. Almost every like gay porn videos of some dude sniffing another dude's armpit. I'm like that's so like with like kinkier stuff like

fetish stuff. What's like the craziest custom you've ever gotten through like your pages? Did you do it or did you not? I think the craziest one was like this guy wanted me to describe in detail my orchtomy, my castration. Oh. Uh, in

detail like he was like, I want to like like how you they cut it open and how they took everything out. And I was like, okay. And I'm supposed to be jacking off during this whole time. And then of course the the the

[ __ ] fantasies. I'm like, they never I love them. Most of my fans are sissies.

So cuz I'm a very dominant in my my uh things and also very girlfriend experience as well. But I loved I love the guy he was like I want you to turn me into a [ __ ] and make me into like a

bottom with no balls. And so that one is really so one of like my most memorable ones. Okay. Um there have been other ones where I still actually still have to do this one. I think my most unique

was that he wanted me to come underwater. Oh my god. I just did one of those. Really? Yeah. I was in the bathtub. Yeah. Yeah. I have never done that one. Is probably one of my most like Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Like

put the camera underwater, too. Like mine just like angled and you could just see it like flow. Yeah. The water was like clear, but it was like kind of like wavy. So, it was all like a little difficult to get. Cover the thing and

put it put it in. So then you come under water and then it's a whole the whole thing. Yeah. Interesting custom for sure. Oh, I love that. That is interesting. Yeah. Or then also putting a whole bikini in my ass. So,

oh, just like thinking about it being so dry. With lube, anything's possible. True. Dragon lube.

It's the most like like it's super sticky. They're like, "Where's your bikini?" It's like right here.

You're like a magician just like pulling it out. You're like, "Fuck. Wait, where'd one of those twangles go?" Oh, he's so scared. Oh my god. See, it's like that way to the yard. The custom takes a turn. Yeah. Oh my god. No,

that's so funny. Well, one time I I I was one of my really old collabs. I like put out this guy, super fit guy. We stuck a whole entire 18 in dildo inside of his ass the whole thing. And then I was like [ __ ]

him with it and like he thought it was he's like, "Oh my god." He had to run to the bathroom cuz it like wasn't coming out and so it was a moment. Oh my god.

No. I would be panicking. Oh yeah. That's why I'd be I was just like this is why you always have a flared base.

Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. It'll right up. Yeah. Have a permanent tapeworm. Her necklace was hungry.

Oh my gosh. I love that. So, what keeps you grounded in your like day-to-day life? You live such a crazy life. Like I feel like you have a lot of interactions like with just like strangers on the street who can recognize you and

But and I always talk about like just how humble you are and like how how helpful you are. Like I feel like you've helped me so much like personally with just like directing and or not directing but like getting in contact with

directors and like scenes and everything but like how do you stay so grounded and humble and like normal? I know cuz we were supposed to film in December, weren't we? I don't know with the director. They said that was something a

little issue. It's okay. But I was like yeah we were supposed to film together and I was like so excited. I know. Me too. I was literally like I'm going to die. Well, it'll happen. and it'll happen in a year.

So, in a whole year's first studio scene, for sure, but I guess I'm taking that break, which is why I I was starting to take too many things on. Uh, and I was definitely I was experiencing a lot of burnout last

year and I was working through it and I was like getting way more just like upset, more like sensitive, more like I was like I'm reaching a breaking point and I'm like I cannot crush out. And what happens is like when you start

doing too much and like it's just like you don't take any breaks. I didn't take a break for 5 years and I was like okay it's time girl to really just take a take a chill bell. But having um I think

that like joy is a choice. Like a joy having like hobbies. I have a lot of hobbies. I didn't realize I didn't have a lot of hobbies until y'all said it when I was in town. Um when we were was

it after the pool party and I was like I was like this and you're like damn you do a lot of things. And I was like, really? Um, but I now I finally have a structure. So I have my kumic plotties.

I am taking guitar lessons. I am taking swimming lessons. My week with just fun things to do. So I that's what keeps me grounded is finding things that are outside of the industry and just really just having a good time.

Yeah. No, I love that. I feel like that's so important because otherwise you can just get so consumed also and like everything's about like sex and then you're like hot. It's like it doesn't matter if you do like when

you're like learning to swim or if everything is for money or if everything is like if this isn't doing this for me then I don't care. It's like it's definitely the quick way to get jaded especially um in this industry which is also why

I'm taking my silicone out later on this year. I have an MRI coming up to have everything mapped to start really reconstructing my body in a way that I can start doing rock climbing and hiking. I want to hike the Appalachian

Trail um in like 5 years um when I'm 34 and so that's my 5year plan. Okay. And just doing things like that where it's like keeping active um and also having a healthy amount of hormones in your body.

Please, please find a good endocrinologist. Um, because if you don't, just squashing your testosterone is just it's going to make you crazy.

Having a good balance of everything like really keeps you the most sane and staying away from using a lot of drugs.

So, yeah. Yep. I was using a [ __ ] ton um in the last couple of years and I've been open about it more where I feel like the only reason why I was working so much is because I was like, "Okay,

when I'm home, I got to do this. I got to get everything done." And now being able to be sober and being able to like not have to drink when I go out, it's been like really helpful. That's

actually so beautiful cuz I feel like that's something that um it's easy to struggle with. And I think that that can also go back to like and and nothing against you in particular, but like lack of accountability in in the industry or

just any sort of like business owner that it's like you you typically wouldn't show up to a job and be on substances or like on break or whatever the case may be. And so it's it's really awesome that you've been able to like

take that step and go on a sorbiety journey. Very hard. Yeah. And it's it's around a lot. So it's like very easy to like parties, you know, and then it's just like so not encouraged but like easy accessible is very hard to like say

no sometimes or feel like you can't be sober in network and blah blah blah.

Yeah. Or being able to be one on one like being 100 all time. My big role was never to be on drugs while I'm working.

Uh, of course at parties and stuff it's very accessible. But like this is my sober year where I'm like I'm not drinking. I'm focusing on my health and so it is hard but if anybody like especially anybody out there who needs

someone to talk to, I can be there for you. I talked to so many people who are sober in the industry and shout out to them. They really helped me get through a wrong a hard time in the industry. So,

but I'm happy to finally just be on a new journey and then just doing a lot of like self-production.

Um, and just like it's a breath of fresh air. No, I love that. I'm so excited for you and excited to see like what this new era of Emma Rose is and what that looks like and to be a part of it to any

Oh, of course. Of course. Come to Vegas way more often. Yes. Yeah. Oh my gosh. We got to go to Honey Salt again. Oh my god, I love I love I wish that another lobster roll back.

I died as meatloaf when I had sepsis after my surgery. Um so I'm still still kind of scarred from meatloaf.

I'll change your mind. Just shove it. Eat it. Thank you so much for coming on. So so much. This was so fun. That was so fun.

Thank you so much for having me. Such a fun week, too. We fun and stressful.

Very that. Yeah. I'm leaving harder. Yes. I have my own booth this year, so I'm really excited to finally like set everything up and not have to like stress in and out and worrying about like Oh, yeah. Hopefully, we're next to each

other. We're like, yeah, we're signing one day. You just one day? Uh yeah. Yeah. I'm like I literally have like nine collabs in seven days. Oh, that's so nine collabs, four podcast episodes.

signing one day in the parties. Honey, I'm busy. I'm busy. Yep. Girl, I got to get out there. But, well, thank you so much for coming. I'm so fun to have you.

And if you don't know, now you know. Yeah. And do you want to plug anything before? Oh, um Oh, it's a marose.co company. So, co is my website for Oh, wow. for my um for my website. And of

course, just um I don't know. I'm kind of just like working on my own little thing this year. So, yeah. check out all our stuff and the only way you'll be able to see new stuff is on her own

pages. So, don't miss out. Bye, guys. Bye. Peace.