Speaker A
I've got to uni to become a nurse. I actually want to make a difference in people's lives. Clipping isn't going to do that.
Musa debates the realism of making money as a TikTok clipper versus traditional jobs, addressing skepticism about time, AI, and income consistency.
Key Takeaways
- Making money online through TikTok clipping is possible with consistent effort and volume.
- AI tools significantly reduce the time needed to create and post clips.
- Traditional jobs offer stable income but may be at risk due to automation and AI.
- Many people spend significant time on social media, which can be redirected to content creation.
- Success in clipping requires action and persistence, not just opportunity.
Summary
- Musa, a successful TikTok clipper, argues that posting 100 clips a day can generate significant income, leveraging AI to reduce time spent.
- Skeptics highlight real-life commitments like parenting and question the feasibility of dedicating time to clipping.
- The debate covers the unpredictability of income from clipping compared to stable wages from traditional jobs.
- Musa challenges the notion that average people lack time, citing high social media screen time as an opportunity.
- The discussion touches on AI's role in automating content clipping and its impact on jobs, including retail positions.
- Skeptics emphasize the emotional and social value of human interaction in jobs that AI might replace.
- Musa stresses that consistent volume in clipping leads to predictable income despite fluctuations in individual video performance.
- The conversation includes perspectives from various individuals with different jobs and life situations.
- The video explores the broader theme of adapting to new digital income streams versus traditional career paths.
- Musa promotes clipping as a realistic side hustle or business model for young people familiar with social media.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Nursing Career Doubts
- 02:44Income Uncertainty in Clipping
- 04:46AI and Time Efficiency in Clipping
- 08:43AI Impact on Jobs and Customer Interaction
- 10:43Summary of Clipping Feasibility
- 12:06Finance Perspective on Online Income
- 18:43Challenges and Realities of Making Money Online
- 23:40Final Thoughts on Clipping vs Traditional Jobs
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Speaker A
Okay, well you actually don't get the chance to be a nurse because the odds are you don't even get the job. There were less than 30,000 jobs that were given to over 1.1 million university graduates.
Speaker A
Do you think that the average person could do what you did in that month?
Speaker A
The biggest can idiot you know can do it. I'll bet $1,000 on the fact that everyone has over 5 hours of screen time on social media apps.
Speaker A
But you're not going to be making that much money in 1 hour. What? In 1 hour you post 100 clips, that's a fact.
Speaker A
Are you proud of using other people's work to make money for yourself? You're selling a bit of a false dream.
Speaker A
In a world where we can all consume, we can all also create. Everyone here goes up.
Speaker A
Mhm. Post 100 videos for the next 90 days. If you post 100 videos a day and don't make 3 grand in a month, well I'll give you 3 grand myself.
Speaker A
My name is Musa. I'm a TikTok clipper that has a software company that makes around $7 million a year. I've generated billions of views for all of my clients and have my own personal brand that has over a million followers. And I pretty
Speaker A
much made all of my money from clipping. Making money online with the average person is extremely realistic.
Speaker A
Hi, my name's Amara and I'm a Boots worker and I don't think that it's realistic for the average person.
Speaker A
How so? Um, because you're forgetting the fact that actual people have commitments, people that are parents, they have kids.
Speaker A
People don't have time to be posting 100 videos a day and there's no actual guarantee that they're going to make money.
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Would you say you're one of those people that doesn't have enough time? 100%. Can you show me your screen time?
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My screen time is turned off. Oh, it's turned off? Yeah. Oh, how convenient. Yeah, well, okay, I can say this to everyone here. If anyone has a screen time of less than 2 hours on Instagram, TikTok, or Snapchat, I'll
Speaker A
give you $1,000, whoever it is. Anyone? Yeah, I didn't, I didn't think so. Okay, but everyone here is young, relatively young, because people with kids, people with commitments aren't actually going to be here today, are they?
Speaker A
Well, I can guarantee your mom spends the same amount of time on WhatsApp. You—she doesn't.
Speaker A
On WhatsApp? I can guarantee you she doesn't. You're telling me your mom doesn't have 2 hours of screen time?
Speaker A
Your mom? My mom is a single mom of six kids. Yeah. So, she actually doesn't spend much time on her phone at all.
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The good thing about stuff like AI, right, is that allows you to literally skip the time-consuming part. So, where it would take 100 hours to make 100 clips, it will now—you're forgetting that people actually have to take the time out to find these
Speaker A
videos, to clip the videos, to post them. There's no guarantee you're actually making money.
Speaker A
Well, you can do that on the side job. Like, I go to my job. I work at Boots. I have a set time. I'm going to go in at this time. I'm going to make my money. There's no set payday with
Speaker A
clipping. You don't know if you're going to get paid. It comes with the—Well, I mean, you do because if you go with enough volume, you do.
Speaker A
But you don't know how much you're going to get paid. You can't guarantee, "Yes, I'm going to be paid this much on this day." If you post 100 videos a day and they all flop and you get 1,000 views.
Speaker A
Post 100 videos a day? Everyone. Not everyone. Will you have time to scroll? Not everyone.
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You're telling me no one on Earth—No, I'm saying not everyone. Okay, so you're telling me the average person—Okay.
Speaker A
No. So, you're telling me the average person doesn't have an app 1 hour free per day.
Speaker A
1 hour, maybe, but you're not going to be making that much money in 1 hour.
Speaker A
Okay, but you can. But you can't. You can because it compounds. So, what? In 1 hour you can post 100 clips. That's a fact.
Speaker A
1 hour, you have to actually take out the time to find these 100 clips.
Speaker A
No, you don't. Yes, you do. No, you don't because AI does it. That's exactly what happens. So, you just take a YouTube video, anyone on the homepage, which takes less than a minute to find.
Speaker A
You're also taking videos from other people making videos. So, if these people didn't make these videos, where's the money coming from?
Speaker A
Okay, but you're telling me videos aren't going to come out. That's the problem you're concerned with here.
Speaker A
No, I'm saying that average person—the average person doesn't have the time. You're more likely to lose your job to AI than you are for YouTubers to stop posting content.
Speaker A
Yeah, that's true. Okay. But not every job is going to be lost to AI, is it?
Speaker A
Okay, your job will. No, it won't. Yeah, it is. How? Because they already have self-service cash registers. You already—Your job is already being done by robots.
Speaker A
But that's not my job. Okay, what do you do at Boots? I'm a customer advisor.
Speaker A
Wow. Yeah, I could literally chat to her. There's AI support. There's already AI chat available.
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Speak to AI? Pardon? Do people want to speak to AI? Is that why they come into the store? Is that why they come into the store? No.
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They come into the store to speak to real people. Yeah, but if they come to the store, they don't need your support.
Speaker A
Clearly they do. I don't have a job. You go and talk to the person at the counter?
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I don't go to McDonald's. Okay, when you go to anywhere, do you choose to order on the tablet or you choose to talk to the person at the counter?
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And speak to a real person? Really? Yeah. Well, most people don't do that. In fact, the average person doesn't do that.
Speaker A
They do. Don't. Yes, they do. No. Well, where's the proof? Well, go into any—Go into any McDonald's. Go into any store. Anywhere you can order on a tablet.
Speaker A
You people like to speak to people. So, why are businesses implementing AI then? Because it's cheaper.
Speaker A
If people would rather talk to people. But they would. Okay, so why are they implementing AI?
Speaker A
Because it's cheaper. Mhm. Like, to summarize, I think that the average person, like you even said, has an hour a day. And in that one hour, you can make and post 100 clips. And in fact, it's easier to do that than it is
Speaker A
to do your work. And then not only that, you're more likely if your concern is that YouTubers will stop making content, it's more likely that YouTubers will continue making content than it will that your job will continue before it
Speaker A
gets replaced by AI. Okay. Thank you for your conversation. No problem. My name is Federico. I work in finance in the 9-5. And I think that if you're comparing to the average person, in general, making money online is really
Speaker A
hard to do. Mhm. I see. I think the reason for that is because there's so many different ways to do it, and it's very hard to optimize the way that you choose to be able to actually make a consistent income online.
Speaker A
When it comes to my photo clipping, I struggle to see how it would be difficult for the average person to pick up their phone and post a video as opposed to just scrolling, right? The average person scrolls. We all scroll.
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We can check anyone's screen time here. I can put a thousand dollars on the fact that everyone has over five hours of screen time on a social media app. So, instead of scrolling during that time and looking at stuff, you can be posting
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stuff. And you don't even have to put your face in front of any of it. I don't see how the average person can't do that.
Speaker A
My logic is that the average person would depend on, obviously, the money that comes from clipping. Depends on how many views you generate, of course. It's directly correlated. When it comes to a normal job, an average person deciding
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between working a normal job and doing clipping, a normal job is confirmed and consistent income. You know exactly how much you're going to make, and you're going to make that exact same amount every time. Although the ceiling is
Speaker A
obviously lower for how much money you can make, the baseline for how much money you're making on—
Speaker A
views and will always make you enough money to to live off of. There's a few different ways to approach this. That's actually a pretty good pretty good rebuttal. There's two ways.
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There's, you know, going as quantity. You can just post a lot. So, for example, if you post 100 videos and all 100 videos flop and get a thousand views, right? You still get a hundred thousand views. A hundred thousand views
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can make you a hundred dollars. And that can If you do that a day, then you can make a hundred dollars a day.
Speaker A
So, the the combat is by by increasing the quantity of the amount of videos that you produce.
Speaker A
Exactly. And you can do that very easily now with AI, the same as you would with anything else. And that's if all of your videos don't perform. The odds are if you upload a hundred videos a day, something works, right? Alex Hormozi has
Speaker A
this rule called like the rule of 100, which is if you do whatever you do, do it a hundred times for a hundred days, and something's going to work. And I think that applies here as well very clearly. If you just make a hundred
Speaker A
clips for a hundred days and post a hundred times a hundred days, even if every video flops, you still make a hundred dollars a day. And if it goes well, you make way more than the average person. So, assuming everything flops,
Speaker A
you still make far more than you would than the average person would anyway. Okay. And then when we're thinking of like Let's think of large groups of people. Is it possible for so many people to be able to be doing the same
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thing? Why isn't everybody doing it? Yeah, it's a good question. As with all things, there's there's a minority that will succeed and that's what happens and it's because of the lack of action. My software company, in fact, the reason it
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does so well is because we kind of solved the skill issue. When it comes to AI, like you said, there's a differentiation between the the amount of people that can actually make 100 videos in a day and those that can't. Um and my software
Speaker A
company allows people to make like as many clips as you want. You can make 10 clips in 2 minutes off a video that's already gone viral. And because of all the AI tech that we built on the back
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end, it allows people or essentially what it does is it gets the script from the entire video and picks the best moments specifically. And it's proven because it goes viral.
Speaker A
the most viral moments. Exactly. So you can optimize the content selection and optimize the like how quickly you make the content and post it so the average person can succeed. Um the company operates on like a monthly subscription basis. And the fact that
Speaker A
we've been running for 2 years and have been profitable for 2 years and have year-on-year growth to me suggests the fact that people keep paying.
Speaker A
It's a good response. Thank you. Any competent person can make more money clipping in a month than a regular job in a year.
Speaker A
Um any competent person could potentially, obviously, make more more based on what you're saying with how much money can be made in 5 views.
Speaker A
But I would say anybody that was starting out, that's not going to be possible because my understanding of clipping is the amount of views that you need to get would be substantial. If somebody was starting out new, there's
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no way they're going to be able to do that within a month. You need to have a certain amount of followers in order to get the amount of views or getting to creator programs, etc. So I'd say a
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competent person could, but in the beginning, I don't think that's possible. I think maybe a year ago you were right.
Speaker A
I don't think this problem would have stood to be honest, but I think now the way everything is now the escape of the scene, I would say that it's I actually disagree with the prompt still. I think that an an idiot can can
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make more than someone working a regular job with clipping. I think there are platforms like content rewards which is another company I represent and essentially what they allow is there are no requirements. You don't have to have a certain amount of followers. You don't
Speaker A
have to have a certain amount of views. You don't have to have any of these things. You join a campaign, you submit your clips and if they have views you get paid. You can have zero followers.
Speaker A
You can have one follower. This is on TikTok. What what platforms? You can post on whatever platform. It can be any social media platform. If it has views and it fits the campaign, you can get paid from it. It's that simple and the
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payouts can be as little as $10 even. So, I don't think that this is a situation that can arise anymore. I feel like right now even like idiots can do it. Never mind competent people. Like I said, there's a reason that all the top
Speaker A
brands and all the top creators are posting hundreds of times a day. One of my friends, he actually has a men's health care brand and he posts over 100 TikToks a day. To do that, to make 100 TikToks now with AI super easy. To
Speaker A
submit a clip and get paid super super easy. Even as little as $10. You don't even have to go and make loads of money.
Speaker A
You just you can go and make money with no followers and little amount of views.
Speaker A
I actually have a question. I was wondering, do you think 1,000 views is a lot? I mean if I have 1,000 if you put 1,000 people in a room watching you, yeah, you'd be like that's a lot of
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people. But it's not a lot in terms of the grand scheme of things in terms of TikTok and Instagram if someone put a gun to your head and said you got to get 1,000 views today, would you be worried?
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No. Exactly. So, if you can get 1,000 views, you can get 1,000 views on 100 videos to you less than an hour to make.
Speaker A
But that's still not beating somebody's salary within a year. Yes, it is. It's going to make you $100 a day. $100 a day is $3,000 a month which is $36,000 a year.
Speaker A
Okay, maybe I'm on a different salary bracket then. But yeah, I [clears throat] yeah, I guess it can beat some salaries.
Speaker A
And that's if you fail. That's if that's if you post every single day for the entire year, and every single video does less than half of the average view viewed video on TikTok. Less than half.
Speaker A
That's like beyond like suffering. Like we're talking about like extra failing. Like you failed extra. Like you did done You have to put real effort into do that bad.
Speaker A
Yeah, but I mean like obviously we've had things of like the 200 view jail within TikTok and stuff like that where people aren't hitting a thousand a thousand views. But then also there are people that like you say won't be able
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to do a hundred videos a day. This It depends what you mean by competent because yes you're saying an idiot could post a hundred times a day but you've also already said people aren't able to do it. Like
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People don't do it. I'm saying that's the differentiation between those that do make it and those that don't. It doesn't mean it's hard to do. It doesn't mean it takes mental effort. It just takes like action. And that's the only
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differentiator. Yeah, I don't really have much more to say to that. Hi. So with this statement I think it depends on how you define competence because I agree with everything you're saying. Like for people like us or your target audience,
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it's easy to post a hundred times a day and then get a thousand views. Like that's not hard for people like us who are familiar with how to use social media and online platforms. But there are older, competent people, you know,
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who maybe like run businesses who have no idea how to use social media and they might be competent in different areas of life. But in clipping they wouldn't know how to do any of it. And like yeah, you
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can use AI to clip things. My dad doesn't even know how to download an app to post on social media. Like things like that. So I think you have to define competence really narrowly if you're trying to claim that any competent
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person can make more than the average salary. I actually don't think I do cuz I actually think the biggest heart can make more than the average salary with clipping. And I'm actually glad you brought up older people. My auntie,
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she's over 50 years old. She has over 1.4 million followers on TikTok. What's What's your auntie called?
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Her name's Fedon Tok. She's um Australian. She lives in Australia. She's over 50 years old and not only that, she actually used to run a law firm and she quit she was making more money from Tik Tok. So like this is
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this is how these things go, you know, like you love to bring up like you know, the older generation are incapable of doing so, but my auntie didn't have a problem doing that. She didn't have a problem getting a million followers. She
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didn't have a problem getting invited to go on the news in Australia. She didn't have a problem getting millions and millions of views every single month.
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She didn't have any of these issues you're talking about. I think that it's just a projection of limiting beliefs onto older people. And yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say she's the smartest cookie in the jar either, but she's still able to pull it off. It's like the
Speaker A
whole concept is not like make more money, it's don't work. But it doesn't make them incapable of doing so.
Speaker A
Thank you. People who don't make money from Tik Tok deserve to be brain rotted by short form content as a result.
Speaker A
Well, the prompt actually was that, you know, everyone the person that doesn't create deserves to be, you know, punished and I just don't agree with the fact that because I don't do something or the people around me don't do something,
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they deserve to be punished by brain rot or deserve to be punished by something else. For example, just because I don't clip I don't want to see your content for example. I'm not saying that's the case, but I just don't agree with that fact.
Speaker A
All right, so if you don't hit gym, kind of deserve to be fat in it.
Speaker A
Not really. Yeah, but you do. No, you don't. Because of why would you deserve to be fat if you're Let's say you just take care of yourself. For example, I don't go in go gym that often.
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Mhm. But, you know, it's not like I eat 24/7 or I Yeah, but like you deserve to like you you obviously what I'm saying is you don't deserve to like reap the benefits of as if you hit the gym if you don't,
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right? You like kind of deserve what comes off as a consequence of that action. Whenever you commit like partake in an action, the consequences are deserved, right? If you're choosing not to create with your time and instead you're choosing to consume and scroll,
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you deserve the byproduct of that. And the byproduct of creating this instance is literally making money, and the byproduct of consuming is a lessened attention span and stuff like that. So, yeah, I I think they deserve it.
Speaker A
But every single like person that sat here, all I heard was money, right? So, I'm like Mr. Krabs right now, just saying money, money, money. Right? What about other aspects of it? For example, for me, it's not all about money. Like I
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want to help people. For example, I'm an apprentice currently at a company, and I help people, you know, bring internet to rural areas.
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And I don't earn much money from that as an apprentice, but that makes me fulfilled because people around the world get access to internet. For example, our last project in Kenya, I gave people in Kenya access to internet
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for the first time in their life. And I feel like there's more to life than, you know, you just saying money, money, money this whole time.
Speaker A
Okay, so don't you think it'd be a better thing if people knew more about that?
Speaker A
Well, potentially, but It'd be better if people knew more about this opportunity. I didn't know that. I didn't know that you could go to Africa and give them Wi-Fi.
Speaker A
Yeah, what? You should've clipped it, bro. Then I'd've known about it. I might've even donated.
Speaker A
No, but what Why would a company, a big company, needs a clipping maybe or, you know, they probably make videos of them online?
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Impact. They create impact. Okay, but they would create more impact if they clipped cuz I'd've known about it and I'd've donated.
Speaker A
No, every single impact needs to be documented like this. Why not? You're going to You're going to benefit more people. You're preventing Africans from getting more Wi-Fi.
Speaker A
So, no, no, no. So, let's say you clipped that right now. You posted on TikTok. You made money off my doing What you get from that? You make money off me.
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You make money off more people know about it. There's an impact. I'm I'm doing a good impact. I deserve that money because I made a good impact on African children.
Speaker A
Why Why do Why do people in this room need to know about that? Does it impact their life?
Speaker A
Well, yeah, they might donate. Does it impact your life? Yeah, I might donate. Donate You wouldn't donate. I know you wouldn't.
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[ __ ] hell, mate. [clears throat] Yeah. [laughter] I love African people, I promise.
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You don't try to say anything. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. but I you wouldn't donate. No, but I would I'm definitely not going to donate if I don't know about it. If I know about it, now I can donate.
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Maybe you've done enough research. Maybe if you did more clipping, I'd know about it.
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Maybe you've done enough research. Well, you know about it, and you had the choice to tell me.
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specialized. didn't tell me. Maybe you're just too specialized. you tell me about the kids, bro? Should have told me about them kids in Africa.
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I met you today. If you did it if you did clipping, you wouldn't have had to meet me today to let me know.
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Who said I don't? Maybe I do. But you don't know that because you don't know me.
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Oh, yeah. You do clipping? My bro. [snorts] So you do you do clipping? Yeah, actually.
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Yeah, cool. You all right? Yeah. How are you doing today? Decent. So, tying in with the prompt, if they deserve negativity for not doing something, what are they going to get from doing clipping besides obviously the money aspect? I've not once heard of
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how clipping is going to promote to further audiences or anything like that. All I've pretty much heard is you have to create 100 videos a day ideally to generate income, and if you don't have the time, use AI, which means
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that you don't even fully create the content yourself. You let AI do it. So, I don't really see the benefits. So, why should people rob What's like a moral like uh like a moral belief you have?
Speaker A
I believe certain people are misrepresented or this these people are you know, they have something they don't deserve like Um yeah, but I believe in you know what I mean? I believe in world peace and one love and equality and
Speaker A
Okay, so let's say for example, right? That someone is preaching this world peace message cuz there are people that preach preach the opposite, right? Like a lot of political commentators preach for war and stuff like that. So, if
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there are people that preach world peace and you agree with that perspective, wouldn't it be good to spread that message in hopes of changing someone's mind?
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Of course, but you haven't said that but but you haven't said that but if clipping is just about posting videos I was speaking to the job you got talking about how like But how is that going to reach the
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audience there? If I just put a video I can go online right now and just or anyone can go online right now and do a Tik Tok within a positive message but you have not detailed how just using the
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sole method of clipping is going to reach, you know, a lot of audiences and have an impact.
Speaker A
Well, if a video gets a thousand views and you post it a hundred times, it gets a hundred thousand views. You can reach a hundred thousand views. You can reach a hundred thousand people in one day.
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Yeah, but keyword you said is if. Surely if I was to work with human beings and say there's people out there like PR people and what not that could actually get my message out there but I chose to
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go down that route as opposed to clipping knowing that the other route is actually going to get my message in front of the right audiences. I deserve my brain deserves to be rotted.
Speaker A
Right. No, the it was more so like if you spend your time scrolling instead of making Tik Toks, you deserve the byproduct of scrolling for hours per day.
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But I just don't believe that because again, even if you said but I don't believe that that would happen to them because I still believe that that would happen to them. But I don't believe that that would happen to them because I
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still believe that that would happen to them. But I don't believe that that would happen to them because I still believe that that would happen to them.
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But I don't believe that that would happen to them. Because I still believe that that would happen to them. But I don't believe that that would happen to them. Because I still believe that that would happen to them. But I don't
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believe that that would happen to them. Because I still believe that that would happen to them. But I don't believe that that would happen to them. Because I still believe that that would happen to them. But I don't believe that that
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would happen to them. Because I still believe that that would happen to them. But I don't believe that that would happen to them. Because I still believe that that would happen to them. But I don't believe that that would happen to
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them. Because I still believe that that would happen to them. Yeah, so my mind is still being fed.
Speaker A
It's not being like my Yeah, so you're not doom scrolling. If you're doom scrolling, you deserve the benefit like the the negatives that come with that and the negatives come with that is a short attention span and stuff
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like that. Actually, even when you are watching what you watch, if it's entertainment to you and it's entertaining for you, which I'm sure it is, um it still could be your attention span.
Speaker A
I also just ask, going back to what you said before about you need to create a hundred videos ideally to generate I think it was a thousand view a thousand views or pounds what was it you said?
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Views views, yeah. And you said if someone didn't have time use AI. You do know and I know this for a fact that people in my personal life a lot of people don't like AI content. I've actually sometimes quite a bit sent like
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funny AI Tik Toks to friends and stuff because yeah, I know it's obviously not real but the actual content I'm seeing is funny and I like to share it. And I've had friends say to me, "Please stop sending me AI content. They don't want
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to see it cuz they know it's fake." So, that's what I'm trying to say like, so if I was to use your service to clip and create 100 videos cuz I can't create 100 videos in a day. I'm just going to tell you it's
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not possible or valuable videos. So, I use the AI option, but a lot of people don't even like seeing seeing AI content, then what have I truly given or what value have I truly made apart from just a hope of making money? Do you know
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what I'm trying to say? Like I'm struggling to see why someone would need to clip besides the money. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker A
Yeah, well, I mean, for example, like the religious beliefs of the guy that I subbed up and my own religious beliefs as well. We literally had this discussion when we were talking about how I believe in Islam, right? So, I believe in spreading
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the message of Islam. It's like one of the pillars that you have to part of the religion, right? And I don't like going out and talking to people. In fact, I'd have less of an impact. I think that
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debates and stuff like that are actually like you know, I don't think they do much good. But if I can take that type of content and get 250 million views in a month like I did for like a religious
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scholar, I believe I'm making a positive impact because I believe that's a positive message to spread.
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really because it sounds to me like it's just going to be anyone who sees it. I guess obviously when it comes to religion yeah, but that I think okay, that's more applicable to religion. But if I was to use clipping for like let's
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just say I run a business that specialized in shoes for example or okay, let's be more specific. If I had a raincoat business, right? I would want any content I make via clipping for that for my business to be seen by people
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that are most likely going to be interested in my product. Not really random people who probably won't really be interested. I mean, I don't think anyone can wear a raincoat. Yeah, but I don't really think people in hot
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countries that's mostly hot have a deep desire to have one. Of course, they can physically wear it, but they're probably not going to be it's probably not going to not be for them. So, if Clippin is not going to allow me to kind of like
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sell my product or my service or whatever I'm doing to the target audience, it's just going to get me views, then I don't really think it's of much value, if I'm honest. Besides, if I was going to make money from it,
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obviously that would be the value. That's not even guaranteed. Do you have any anecdotal experiences to reflect that because the company I work Content Rewards, um there's businesses giving us so much money every single day. There was $3 million
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last week paid out to Clippas. Businesses paid Clippas $3 million just on our platform last week to promote their business. I would argue that that shows that it is profitable and that they are making money selling their products.
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So, they they paid you to sell their product and their services to random people who may not be interested in a tool what they offer, basically.
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Well, the algorithm is so good that it is finding those people. When there's thing there's companies, other companies out there that can actually show your ad or your or your service to people who most likely would be interested.
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And your your algorithm's tailored for you right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so the odds are, if you didn't need a raincoat, it wouldn't come up on your feed. But, if you did need a raincoat, it would because the algorithms are that good. And there's a
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reason that businesses come and start campaigns on Content Rewards every single day and deposit millions of dollars every single week and Clippas get paid out millions of dollars every single week. It's because it's working.
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The algorithms are tailored so well. So, Clippin relies on the information of the platforms you post, basically. I mean, I do understand that cuz obviously FYPs and Instagram feeds are very personalized these days, but I still all I'm really getting is that of just the
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financial aspect of Clippin really. I still I'm still not getting that kind of like conviction that it's going to really help me, you know, if I was selling a product or a raincoat, for example. Like it's going to but I feel like if I was to use
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Google Ads or something, that would probably most likely get it in front of people that have been searching at that time. And if I had a choice, I'd rather use Google Ads for that purpose.
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Yeah, but How would you define the quality of your content? Is it quality content? Is this just feeding the pigs, you know? What do you think about?
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For me, I just post whatever is going to get the money. Now, within reason because I don't take on gambling deals.
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I don't work on you know, like explicit industries and stuff like that. Like that's where my moral line lies. Like I don't make that content. I've been offered plenty of money to do clipping for those industries and I don't do it.
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However, like I'm pretty loose with it as opposed to anything else. I'll make entertainment content and stuff like that. A lot of people will you know, they like to make this claim of like you know, you're brain rotting
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people. Like people are getting dumber as a result. Attention spans are decreasing and all this other stuff, but I think they deserve it. If they're not spending time making clips, they deserve to you know, suffer from So it's a kind of a cruel environment
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that you create to be I'm saying like is it really something that people need? I think it's just overpopulated and you're just offering to more people to participate in this industry which is like just posting posting posting. Like
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adding video that we don't even need to see. To be honest, I choose my channels.
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I choose what to do. Like I just don't scroll everything all the time. I do scroll. I agree with that, but in a way that it kind of helps more what I do in my field without even going too far
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because when I start like scrolling my phone and I get to the third video and there's this very dumb guy that is dumb as [ __ ] and everybody looks at this stuff. That guy is making is making
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money. And I know and I go into his profile and I see millions and millions of views, but I'm just thinking that we are just the circle is closed because we're just going into a circle that never ends of
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videos and posting. I'm just curious. You know, on Instagram and on TikTok. So on Instagram, you can actually filter your own algorithm. You know that, right? So you can turn stuff off. You can turn stuff on.
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And on TikTok, there's actually a STEM tab which is like a teaches you about science and technology and all sorts of stuff. No one uses it.
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I know. Why is no one clipping for it? It's because no one uses it. You give people the option to go and learn something on these platforms instead of like rotting their brains, and they choose to rot their brains, right? And I'm not saying
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like, you know, that that's good or or that's how it should be, but I'm just feeding the market. The market is saying, "I want to watch this content." And I'm saying, "Here it is." I understand and going back to average people is like I
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think good maybe more than 50% of people they don't really know the potential of this social medias of the of this of this platforms. That's why they use it in a like indirect way sometimes. They don't even like message it just really really
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scroll the phone and I understand you have to give them what they what they need. When it gets to my field for example, if I really go in the specific, which like I'm a tattooist I said, so it
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can be any type of art or any sort of even music creation. Like I think it really really takes off the human it's inside us, you know? In terms of like it's not really produced. Okay, you can decide what AI
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is doing, but the way it's doing it is not really true your brain, true like studying what you lived, your experience, your everything. Even your family can be a base of your heart, no?
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So, I think it's really unhuman. What do you think is good for people? If you show if you chose what people had to see, what would you put in front of them? What videos, what clips would you make?
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I I personally could make contents like face on content, but I always just post my art. And that's really comes from my my thing as well.
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You know, it's like we are in an environment very saturated of videos and creators. So, obviously you need to make the difference as an artist, no? So, what people wants. That's what I think as well. When I'm creating art
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You can make clips I feel that what people want as well, you know, because I need to to get my niche to reach them, to sell my product, to sell my artwork.
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You can make clips of your favorite artist and get paid for it. Like the art that you think changes the world Like think about Banksy for example. I'm not saying he's your favorite artist but he's an artist. His videos go extremely
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viral. You can just make clips of Banksy. Like, you can go ahead and make clips of a bunch of things, you know?
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You can go and content was as a campaign for an artist somewhere. I understand. I I I go your point and I know that probably I will make more money doing videos of Banksy because I really like him and I went all over his
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museums that doing my job really. Probably I could if I post. Yeah, 100% I agree in this point. But, my other question is like does this will affect your your your industry? If everybody really everybody everybody starts posting posting posting six six million
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people. Let Let's talk just about Europe. All Europe starts posting everyday every single person lives in Europe. Will affect your business?
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My business? Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm going to make more money. You will make more money?
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Yeah, my business helps people make clips. So, if people make clips one thing that having more creators is going to take off consumers, no? Cuz we all know the field then and we all know the field.
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going to be consumers. There's always always The world we live in, there's always going to be more consumers and creators. It's just a fact. We're never going to get to a world where there's more creators. That's how it goes.
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What we produce, we consume 100%. That's why the world keeps spinning. [snorts] So, yeah. I agree with you.
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Thank you. [applause] Anyone who goes to university, it's a bloody disgrace. Wasting 3 years at 30 grand to end up worse off.
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I think that anyone that goes to university, they're not they're not necessarily worse off and you can't say that they're wasting 30 grand to do to get the degree that they want to get.
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All right. I have a question. What are the things you hope to achieve after completing uni?
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To get a job. You hope to get a job, right? Okay. Well, there was less than 30,000 jobs that were given to over 1.1 million university graduates. Does that sound like a scam?
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But, you go to uni to get a degree in something that you want to do.
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Right. Okay, let's use my example. I go to uni to become a nurse. I actually want to make a difference in people's lives.
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Clipping isn't going to do that. Okay, well you actually don't get the chance to be a nurse cuz the odds are you don't even get the job.
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But you can't say that. You can't guarantee that. You go to university to guarantee you get the job.
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Yeah. Yeah, and you don't get job. But you do. Okay, but if we look at the numbers, there's 20 that those less than 30,000 jobs.
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jobs. Not all the people are getting jobs. No, they don't. There's less than 30,000 jobs handed out to 1.1 million university graduates. Actually, I have a question. Before we get into nursing, I have a question. Right? If I said that
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there was a less than 2% chance of succeeding when you buy my program, would you buy it?
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No. Okay, well that's what university literally has. That's what the data suggests is less than a 2% chance of you getting your desired outcome after paying 30 grand for this course.
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to get a job. that is worth it. But you're doing something that you want to do. What do you What Why do you want to do clipping?
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you're not. Okay, but why do you want to do clipping? To make money. Yeah.
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Is Is that all there is to life? To make money? Well, that's all there is to life for me.
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No, that's not true. Okay, well that's for me. Exactly, that's for you. But a lot of people they don't just work for money.
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Okay, well they can go and do something else then. That's exactly what they're doing.
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That's why they're not doing clipping. They're not saying that They're going to university to go and get a job so they can go and get money.
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But it's not just for money. Right. People work for value. People work because they want to bring something into the world, not just for money.
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I see. Why Why do we have doctors, nurses, dentists? do all that and make money. In fact, I can make more of an impact with more money.
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How? Okay, you can work your entire life as a nurse. And your your I'm fulfilling personal value. I'm thinking, "Okay, you know what? I'm going to come into the world.
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I'm going to give something." Okay, so let's say for example, right? That you work for 50 years. And every year you help 100 people.
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You're not helping 100 people. No, but every year you work you you work you help You help 100 people in one day.
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Of course I can help 100 people in one day. I'm saying as a healthcare worker you'll help more than 100 people in a Okay, so let's say you help 50,000 people.
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Yeah. I make enough money, I can just pay 100,000 people. that's just you're putting everything to monitor value.
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had more of an objective impact. No, no, you didn't. Okay, but I did. Okay, but as you as yourself, did you actually go out and help those people?
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Well, yeah, cuz I went out and spent hours earning all that money and I took that money and that you can earn money in 1 hour. So, you didn't put any time and effort into making the money. You didn't put any
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time and effort into helping people. Okay, if you have 50,000 people and went, "Yes, I helped people." Of course I helped people.
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I'm amazing. I helped more people than the doctor and the nurse. If your family are stranded in a desert and they can't drink water, and then I buy water and give it to them Or you go out and you actually give it
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to them. Oh, so it doesn't count unless I go to a river and scoop it with my hands and force-feed your parents. Then it doesn't count unless I do that.
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I'm saying as a person, you're not going to get value from that, are you?
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How do you know? But you're not. I do. Okay, but average people don't. Average people don't get value from helping people, giving to charity.
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help people. Let's stop giving to charity. What a great idea. Why do people help people then themselves? Why don't everyone just give to charity and they don't do anything nice and nice?
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I'm saying why don't people just give to charity and they don't do anything else?
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Yeah, they do. But they don't. Well, some people do. Most people don't. Well, you can do both.
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Exactly. it have to be one or the other? You can do both, but I'm saying that with clipping, you're there's no value to it.
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That's five pounds. Thanks. [applause] No one to smoke. Hi. Nice to meet you. I'm Nidia.
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Well um as you were talking with the guy before, you were talking about retiring. Like thanks to clipping, right? But you're like not thinking about the fact that you cannot retire because it's still a job, right? It's not like a traditional
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job, but you cannot retire because you you're still depending on a on TikTok or you're still depending on the algorithm or you're still depending on someone else's views. And yeah, going to uni makes you depend of a traditional
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job maybe, but it's not life is not all about just money. Yes, it it is really important, but it's not all about money because each each of us has a like something they want to do with their lives like vocational like
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you want to do like maybe you go on to go to the army clipping doesn't gives you the fulfillment that army for example gives you.
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Like what are you passionate about? What do you be like, "Okay, if I did this, I'd help the world." I'm Spanish teacher.
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You're a Spanish teacher? Okay, so you want to like teach people [snorts] Spanish and teach people new languages and stuff like that, right? Actually, I'm curious like what's the most you've made as a Spanish teacher?
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Well, here in the UK I've made like I don't know. I think it was 27 K a year.
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Okay, perfect. before taxes. My cousin, he's a bit older, 31 years old, and he's a psychology teacher. He actually got 100% in his in his psychology A-level exam. And he started making clips of like himself and talking about psychology. He took like his
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favorite psychologist and stuff like that and started making clips about it and was making money from making clips of psychology teachers, spreading the word of psychology and awareness of psychology and stuff like that. You can make Spanish teaching videos. There are
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people that teach Chinese on TikTok and they make views and they get paid from it. So you can literally reach more people, teaching Spanish to more people from clips than you ever could as a Spanish teacher. In a Spanish teacher, a
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year group has maybe what? 300 to 600 people in the whole school, maybe 3,000 people at most and that's if you taught every single kid and you don't cuz you get a portion of them cuz it's your class Spanish class. A
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fraction of 3,000 people, if you do it for 10 years, 40 50,000 people maybe and that's if you taught every single student or one TikTok clip can get more than 50,000 views and you will have taught more and had more
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of one video than you would have ever had on 10 years of being a teacher.
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Yeah, but it's not And you get paid for it. They can be an extra on your profession is or what you do for a living, but it's not the reason that it's not the thing that gives you the right to say that uni
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is a waste of time, for example, or uni is a waste of money because it isn't.
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Because what's the purpose of university? I think it's not Like I can I can say that you're partially right saying that like with AI the traditional way of learning is like getting less and less important in society, but it's not a fact now of
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going to take some Spanish lessons like not online but in person or not about going to to university, but it's about telling society that if you are not if you're not able to post on TikTok you can use the traditional path. You can
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still have that traditional path because I think it's important to for teenagers or for future adults to tell them hey you you don't have to be clipping if you don't want to. If you want to do more important thing for society, you can
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still go to uni because we still need we still need theoretical like degrees, for example, medicine or for example, I don't know, physics.
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Okay, money can solve your life, but when you have money you you have another step to cover like Maslow's pyramid, you know, like when you have your money covered you you start asking yourself, "Okay, what I want to do with my life?
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Do I want to depend on a algorithm for the rest of my life?" And we're not talking about pension when you retire, for example, what do you do with your money on TikTok? You cannot What do you do? You
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declare it to the government so you can get a pension when you're 80 years old because when you are in your bed with 80 years old, You cannot start You cannot keep on doing clipping.
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It's actually one of the only things you actually can do when you're 80 years old. When you're 80 years old, you can't do anything. And if you're a Spanish teacher, you definitely can't get up and go and watch the Spanish class every
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single day. There's very limited things you can do when you're 80 years old. In fact, posting is probably the worst example you could have given cuz it's probably the easiest thing you can do at 80 years old. It's actually one of the
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few things that will keep you making over 100 grand a year at 80 years old.
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But I won't Okay, what Not your problem, but what if I get pregnant? Yeah, yeah, you What if I get pregnant?
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No, yeah, but after after giving birth, I have to be clipping my the first day of my child Well, what else are you going to do?
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It's not like you can do anything else. You literally get maternity leave because you can't do anything else. In fact, clipping is probably one of the only things you actually can do No, but after you've had a kid.
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The good part of having traditional jobs is that you still have uh some things like in assured or insured like maternity leave, like sick leave.
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Why don't you have a kid, right, and then go and teach your Spanish class the day after? I think that's a great idea.
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It's not going to work, is it? No, but Of course. It's one of the only things you can always do, and not only always do it, you can do it anywhere. I've been traveling for the past 3 years. I've
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been all over the world, and I've been able to make money always because of clipping. Like right now, today's what?
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The 7th? On the 9th, I don't know where I'm going. I'm going to figure it out tomorrow, right? And And I get that privilege because I'm clipping, right? Because it gives me that freedom. So, it you know, you win some, you lose some. You might
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not get the security that you think you do. I think you get the security as long as you post, which is very easy.
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All right, cool. So, my first point is how can you guarantee the longevity of clipping? Like will this work a year from now, 2 years from now? Especially with, you know, TikTok cracking down on AI content or replicated content. How
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can you guarantee that? Yeah, so I would say when it comes to AI content as a whole, it's only going to be embraced more and more cuz these platforms actually just they don't care about the stuff that goes on the
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content. They're just abiding to legal regulations, but they don't actually care about the content that goes live.
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The reason is because all they care about is having users stay on the platform. The way that platforms make money is by users staying on there. So, they push content that has high retention. So, your objective as a
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content creator or as a clipper is to make videos that have a high amount of watch time cuz the longer people watch, the more money Instagram makes because the longer people stay on the platform.
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you. So, with AI content, your point is that they're like profit chasing companies. Obviously, they're going to allow it. But, what about, you know, replicated content or um God, what I was going to say? Replicated content, I was
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stuck on that point. Uh Instagram's already cracking down on that. Like, they're punishing people for posting the same clips over and over. If a bunch of people in your course, for example, are posting the same clips or just 100
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videos a day, obviously, then none of them are original. If it ever gets to a point where you can't get away with that, like, how is it going to Um I disagree. I don't think that they're cracking down. I think you don't
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know what you're talking about. And that's fine cuz you're not a clipper. But, one of my close friends, his name is Collins Key. He has a like 8 million followers on Instagram. He was actually showing me what he does the other day
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when I called him and asked him for some advice. Um he is posting like the same video 12 times a day. And that's what he does.
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So, Instagram have trial reels, which is literally designed to help people post the same video more than once a day. So, like, what he'll do is he'll make one clip, right? And he'll change the location of the text, he'll change the
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color grading, he'll flip it, he'll do all these other things. And the video will get, you know, one video gets 2 million, the other one gets 10, the other one gets 80. So, he's actually like replicating his own content and
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posting it multiple times to, you know, like do this. I I don't think that um these limitations you think they exist exist. I think they're just like uh you don't know what you're talking about, but Okay, yeah.
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I think it's fine cuz you work for McDonald's. I do make content as well. With me, if I literally repost, like, I've posted a meme before where it's like a common meme format of text, I've literally got like a strike for that or I've, you
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know, flipped the video, changed the color grading, I've literally gotten like punished for that, like, 300 views, for example. But that's fine. If you believe those restrictions aren't in place, I'll move on to my next point based on the prompt, you know. Do you
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think everyone who goes to uni, every single person, is better off clipping? Yeah, of course. Like you actually have a higher success rate. Now, I'm I'm literally telling you that if all of your videos do less than half of the
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average, which is more than failing. If you more than fail, you're making a more than an average salary.
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Yeah. And that's if you more than fail. I hear it. But look, if there There's a lot of people, for example, that like they already have a lot of money. They want to go to uni to, you know, fulfill
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their needs, like becoming a doctor, becoming a lawyer. And also, if you're going uni and alongside that you have an online business, how is that like any worse? Some people, you know, a lot of people cite uni as the best time of
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their lives. A lot of social aspects to it. If you have the money side sorted, which I believe like somewhat side like a noteworthy amount of the population has that sorted. What about them?
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Yeah, if you have like if you're a doctor, like you can't and and you enjoy being a doctor and in neurosurgery, you're not going to learn that from TikTok and you're not going to like, you know, do that. But But like if you want
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more money so you can continue doing that sustainably cuz it might not be making you what you want and all sorts of stuff, then yeah, like you can do it as a side hustle.
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Yeah, but that's only from the lens of, you know, going uni strictly for income purposes, which I believe for most people aren't the case. Like I've seen a lot of, you know, entrepreneurs that say they've been to uni even while doing
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their business and they cited it as, you know, one of the best times of their lives purely cuz of the social aspects.
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You know, doctors pretty much everything I just said. Yeah, I mean we established at the start like we'll give a thousand dollars to someone who's not scrolling. No one's getting that money. It's because everyone's scrolling. So like you got
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time to scroll even if you're in uni, which means you have time to make clips.
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You could lucky do clipping in uni. Of course you could. There's two ways to go around this, right? And in the world there's creators and consumers. And that's it. So you're either creating or consuming almost everything. Right now
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we're making this video, we're creating as opposed to consuming and that's when you reap the benefits of being on that side of it. When you stop consuming and start creating instead, you'll get the benefits that come with that. In a world
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where we can all consume, we can all also create. Even if you're in uni, even if you're studying, even if you're a neurosurgeon, you still have time to create because you have enough time to consume.
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Okay, yeah. Okay, I think we agree then. Thank you. Uh my name is Tejas. I work in uh Kadis as a sales person.
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Right. Yeah, okay. You asked me on the I like you asked her like what is the purpose of studying in the university. I'll ask you one question like from childhood to here, have you not attended any universities like have you gone to uh
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study in the colleges or school? Uh yeah, I went to study, yeah. Why you not started the clippings in the age of eight?
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Uh at the age of eight? Like uh you said you can you only said, right? You can start your the clippings in the age of eight. You only said you only told me like you can able to start
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to talk slower, bro. I'm going to be honest. You you said you can start your clippings in the age of eight.
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Mhm, right. Why can't you start your when why can't you start your clippings in the age of eight?
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When I was eight years old? That's your That's your question? That's the question for you.
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I mean, I started when I was like 15. So, I guess that's as young as it got, to be honest.
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You started in your 15 and I was 15. I didn't start when I was eight, unfortunately. I started when I was 15.
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Okay, have you attended your universities in the from childhood? I've never been to university, no.
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Back in India, I have my I have my sister. I left the university. Sorry, what did you You are not understand.
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Just one second, let me Just need to Just need to pause, isn't it? Uh back in India, uh my sister my sister left the university and she started her clippings. But after some of the years, she didn't get any income.
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You understand that? Right. But my parents don't know anything about the clippings. But he's generating more than income from my sister.
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So, your sister dropped out of uni to try clipping. Yeah. And she didn't make any money.
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No. She started She started posting so many videos in the Instagram, but she didn't she didn't get any income from the Instagram. But my parents are getting more income from the clipping.
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But your parents make more money from clipping. Yeah. No, no, no, no. From they are doing their business. They are not They don't know anything about the clipping.
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All right. You know TikTok's banned in India right? Yeah. I'm telling you about Instagram.
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I see. On Instagram. Yeah, they post Instagram. Yeah, you can post on Instagram. But they are not getting any income from the Instagram.
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How many How many times did she post in? Uh she posted more than 100 videos.
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100 videos in how long? Uh more than like 6 months. It posts 100 videos in 6 months. That's terrible.
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That's dreadful. 180 days you post 100. That's less than one video a day. Of course you're not going to make any money. That's like that's worse than the that's significantly that's that's dreadful. What was she even doing the
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entire time? She wasn't even making clips. She got bored and she might have posted something. That was it. She She wasn't making clips.
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But you are saying you can make the more income from the clipping, but my parents are making more income from my sister.
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Your sister's not posting. Of course she's not going to It's like I want to make money online, but I'm not going to post anything. Of course you're not going to make any money.
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Okay, thank you. If you think working hard at your job and saving money is how you get rich, you're an idiot.
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Okay, so I have a question for you. Go ahead. Do you think doctors are idiots?
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Um that's a good question actually. Uh I think they are a little bit, but Have you ever been sick?
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They're not They're not always idiots, right? There's some stuff they do is stupid. Like?
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Like not getting more money. Okay, but if they did clipping for example, who would look after you when you're sick?
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Okay, I have a question for you, and then we can answer at the same time.
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Do you think doctors are underpaid? 100%. Okay, so we both believe that doctors should be making more money.
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Yeah, they should. Yeah, I'm saying they should use clipping to make more money. How are you as a doctor making money from clipping?
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Are you going to perform surgery through the screen? Are they going to diagnose you and they're going to assess you through clipping?
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What about the people that come into healthcare centers and they waste the doctor's time? Oh, like I have this and I've have a temperature and my ear hurts and my left eye is twitching.
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though? because what they can do is they can make clips of doctors talking about how these symptoms are just a cold.
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still go inside. They'll still go into the health center. But less of them will. And not only that, they're helping them and they're making more money doing so.
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No. Are they not? No. So, if doctors made videos helping people no one's benefited.
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not how they're going to assess a patient. That's not how they're going to perform surgeries. That's not how they're going to look after people.
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They're not doing that through a screen. No, of course they're not going to do it surgery through a screen.
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doctors are not idiots. Do you think firefighters are idiots? Well, do you think firefighters are underpaid?
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100%. Okay, I think firefighters and doctors are underpaid. are they going to make money through clipping?
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There's a whole channel on YouTube dedicated to having POV like AI footage, right? Showing what you should do if you're in a house fire. And I would argue those videos help people. Because if you're in a house fire, do you know
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what to do? 100%. What do you do? I follow the instructions on the fire extinguisher.
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On the Yeah, you follow what they tell you how to use a fire extinguisher, not how to survive a house fire.
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Or you just walk out the house. Oh, yeah, but what a great decision. Why isn't everyone that died in a house fire done that? Do you think people that die in house fires are stupid?
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No, I don't. Okay, so why don't they just walk out the door? Because of the circumstance they were in.
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Okay, so if you're in that circumstance, how are you getting out the house? Okay, so I'm going to remember some clip that I watched 2 years ago.
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Absolutely. That's why fire That's why fire mental be making clips. No. Because that's how you're going to know how to survive.
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Firefighters are not going to fight fires through through clips. They're not. to go and fight fires.
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And every And is every single fire a house fire? Out of 24 hours in a day, right? How many hours do you think firefighters spend fighting fire?
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How am I supposed to know? Do I look like a firefighter? probably assume 9 to 5 though, right?
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No. Fire fires do not happen 9 to 5. So, fire fires do not work 9 to 5. say 8 hours. Firefighters are not spending 8 hours every single day fighting fires, but let's assume they do. When before they go to bed, they can
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spend half an hour to an hour making clips teaching people how to survive a house fire.
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Is that going to stop fires from happening because even if people are surviving the house fires, is that going to stop Is that going to stop the house fires? Does that mean firefighters don't get called?
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No, they still get called to put the fire out. course they're going to get called.
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So, even if people are being saved, you still have to fight the fires. So, do you think firefighters are idiots?
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the clip and then when you watch the clip, you go, "Oh, now if I'm in a house fire, I know how to survive." And then it saves your life because you watch the clip.
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Yeah. And the firefighter gets the money he deserves. they still have to come and fight the fire.
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Yeah, he's still going to do that. So, do you think they're idiots? No, they're not. You think nurses have time to do clipping? They work 12-hour shifts.
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Yeah. So, then where are they finding the time? In the other 12 hours. You have to sleep.
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Yeah, that takes like commitments. you have four you have kids, you have husbands, you have work, you have school. People have two jobs.
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Mhm. The time is in her screen time. The 2 hours screen time that she has on her phone.
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2 hours screen times? Everyone has 2 hours screen time screen That's not true. Okay, that's definitely a lie.
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You can't guarantee You can't put money say every single person Okay, but I did it earlier in this shoot. Everyone in the room Everyone in this room. There's what? 10 of us?
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Okay. There's 10 of us here. Are any of us nurses? Show me your watch time. I thought your watch time Did I say I Yeah, exactly. So, you can't prove anything.
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Yeah, you can't prove that's not the case. You can't prove that is. So, you'd put a thousand pound on a on anyone in a hospital to not have 2 hours of watch time.
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say anyone. I said not everyone does. Right. Which they don't. Yeah, no, that's it. Great. Honestly, yeah, great argument.
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I know. Thank you. [applause] There is no ethical argument against clipping because you choose what you clip. You don't have to make random clips.
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Yeah, I'm all right, man. Are you proud of yourself? Yeah, I'm very proud of Right now. Are you proud of like using other people's work to make money for yourself?
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Yeah. In fact, I'm so proud of myself that they're actually proud of me. Who's proud of you?
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The people I make clips of. In fact, they're so proud of me that they give me money to do it again. In fact, I'm extremely glad you mentioned this. I have a clipping account on my phone um of these two creators called Zias and
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Biyalu. I don't know if you're familiar with them. They're like um Adin Ross's friends. They make reaction content.
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Now, I have an account on my phone, a clipping account, that has 42,000 followers. Right? And not only that, if I go to the DMs, I have DMs from the official account from the guy Zias, who has 500k on his TikTok page. His YouTube
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channel has millions of subscribers. And he literally says, "Doing a good job, bro. We appreciate you. What's your schedule for tomorrow?
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What's your Instagram? Hey, you should post this." He's telling me, "Hey, look at this clip. Post it." He's telling me on my phone. This is literally, look, for sure you make them da da da. Well, longer like he's helping me. He's giving
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me advice. Like where are you based? Literally his DMs with him. We're back to money again.
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Of course. Money, money, money, money. [laughter] That's all you've been saying. You said I'm Mr. Krabs.
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Mr. Krabs. Money, money, money. Every single debate all you said is money, money, money, and money.
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Okay, your point was all the influencers happy about you doing this. you gave me one example out of how many influencers have you clipped average?
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Just give me like a rough estimate. Like 25, 30. 25, 30. And only one of them actually messaged you. Or let's just say five of them messaged you. What about the 20 that didn't message you?
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Okay, what about the creators I work with and I made them millionaires? That's the creators that want to work with you.
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No, that's the creators the creators that despise you? Yeah, they hired me. The creators that There are no creators that don't like me cuz I make them more money. If you posted online and I saw you making clips
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of you and your number started going up and you started making way more money, would you come to me and tell me to stop? Would you tell me to keep going?
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I would have contacted you anyway. Oh. I would have contacted Oh, that's great. Yeah.
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What did I do? Like, I don't know. Like, you just all you just talk about is money, money, money every single day. Like, every single person that sat here had the term money at least 25 times in a minute.
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Yeah. Yeah, so did, yeah. So, are you proud of yourself actually using other people to make money for yourself? Are you proud of, you know, taking other people's effort and turning it into income for yourself?
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Yeah, yeah, I am, yeah, yeah. Cuz they're more happy than I am. Are they?
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Yeah, they make more money than me. Have you contacted every single one? Um I mean, yeah, they they do tend to reach out. If you do well like I do, they reach out to you.
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Okay, now back to what you were discussing with other people, right? Right. You're saying that every single year that you're for example your cousin, psychology teacher, right?
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Mhm. He succeeded. What about the psychology teachers that didn't succeed? Well, they're too busy teaching psychology in a school and they should be making clips about it.
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in this world? I don't know every single know every single psychology teacher that tried clipping before?
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No, I don't. So, how do you know that they didn't actually put all the effort into it?
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Cuz they probably weren't posting 100 times a day. How do you know? Cuz if they did, they'd be making money.
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Are you God? No, no, I'm not. Can you see everything that they're doing? No, I can't see everything they're doing.
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Exactly. So, how do you know that you you're giving us one example, two examples. How do you know that other people didn't actually try and fail? How do you know?
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here. Yeah, this is sick. [snorts] And your rebuttal is, am I God? So, and your rebuttal is asking me a question because you can't answer the question properly.
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No, I don't know whether they've done it or not. Well, I do know actually if they've done it or not cuz if they did it, they'd be making some [ __ ] money.
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So, let's say today Right. everyone here goes home, Mhm. posts 100 videos for the next 90 days, Mhm.
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that's what? I will I can personally make a guarantee. If everyone here goes home and they post 100 videos for 30 days and don't make $3,000, I will give you $3,000.
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Personal guarantee. How about this? For every single person this? How about this? Wallah, I'll give you $3,000 if you don't make three grand in a month.
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If you post 100 videos a day, use Crow, post them on and submit them on Content Rewards and don't make three grand in a month, Wallah I'll give you three grand myself.
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You guys heard it. The point I'm trying to make is whether you make 10k or whether you make 1k or whatever it is, you can make 3k a month just posting. There's no doubt about that. In fact, I'm so sure of it that
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for two years I put my money where my mouth is and I made you a personal deal here today.
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Surely It depends on the video that you post because for every single account, because I do TikTok myself, and it depends on the video that I post.
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Although you might get $1 per 1,000 views, I might get 5p per thou per thousand views.
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That's why Content Rewards exist because there's different campaigns, businesses pay different prices. Some businesses pay $2 for a thousand.
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So you think every single person should Content Rewards right now? Yeah, definitely. Cool. Thank you.
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It's all right, mate. Thank you. [applause] Anybody else has a strong opinion? Okay. So I think you've been chatting a lot, but I've got a deal for you. I'll quit McDonald's if you can also match his deal, guarantee me 3,000 pounds if I do
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clipping for a month, yeah? Yeah, no problem. Cool. Perfect. I had another point to say as well.
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You just come up here for the cash, yeah? See, you know what? Everyone cares about principle and no one cares about money until I got three grand sitting on the table.
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Bro, I flip patties, I'm Mr. Krabs as well. So I'm not even going to [laughter] hate.
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You got my meat. I have a question for you anyways. Um so I'm a music artist as well. Do you think clipping could help me in any way?
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Yeah, of course. There's um actually Drake paid for a campaign for Ice Spice on Content Rewards. Made a six-figure deposit to promote the song. Um there's artists always using Content Rewards to promote their music because we know that
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we all know like the reference of TikTok song. We've all heard of TikTok songs before, right? So where does that come from? Like there's even all these people labels Central C as a TikTok artist in the beginning of his career. You know,
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Pink Panther is Tik Tok artist. Bro, Tik Tok makes careers whether you like it or not. Look at the top of the charts, look at the top of the music industry, all Tik Tok Tik Tok artists. They're all Tik
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Tok viral. Look at the top YouTubers, look at the top streamers, they're all Tik Tok viral. Any type of creative industry is all dominated by clippers.
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Clippers make that industry, they make the industry World spins on clippers right now. That's what I'm saying. Any type of marketing effort for any type of business is dominated and run by clippers. Clippers are the most in demand asset right now.
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Would that work for a smaller artist that doesn't have like existing content? So, I know Drake he can clip like reaction channels. He can Is this on pump though or is he just paying for consultation right now? Is
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this a free consultation? You know what I'm saying? No, no, go go I'm playing, I'm playing.
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Um, so for a smaller artist would it work? Because you mentioned example of Drake. He has existing content like a reaction channels to clip. What about someone like myself?
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Yeah, I mean it's the same like when you look at all the streamers that come up, they're all stream small streamers that have the clips and then they now become A-listers. And it's the same with artists, right? No one knows Pink
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Pantheress until the clips start going viral. No one knows Central C until the clips start going viral. And if you think about the lifespan of these guys like Central C bro when he was like 26 or something, you know? It was like he
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was doing career, he was doing music for like 7 years. Only when the clips started rolling did his career take off, you know? So, his whole career was stale up until clipping. It's how like all the small guys blow up. Like It's how I
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market my business. Start from nothing, start making clips, goes viral, get paid. And yeah, that's that's anyone can do it. You can start from anywhere.
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Got you, man. All right, thank you. AI tools mean anyone with no experience can now produce better content than a trained professional editor.
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I think that there's a lot more to video creation than than what you can achieve with just AI tools and no experience.
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You still have to know how to how to produce a good-looking good-looking content, something that's appealing to the eye. You still have to know the technical aspects about it. You still have to source the content of the video.
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There's still a lot I do believe 100% that AI is a fantastic tool that people can use to make amazing content. But I think even a professional without AI would be able to create a better piece of content than someone with no
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experience with AI. It's just the the trade-off between time and quality that depends on either either one, the professional and the normal person.
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Yeah, it's an interesting topic. I actually I'm a video editor myself. It's actually the first thing that made me any type of money. Uh when I was 13, 14 years old, I was doing edits for YouTubers I had like 100,000
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subscribers. I was getting paid £20, £100, stuff like that. So it's where I made my first money in video video editing. I'd consider myself high-level video editor now. I've been doing it for years, right? Um and I would say that
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when it comes to editing long-form content, big bodies of content, um anything like a short film or a movie or a music video, like something like that, a YouTube [snorts] video, yeah, you're not going to do it with AI. You need an
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editor. You need an extremely skilled editor to pull that off. When it comes to clipping, right? Until about 2 years ago, that was the case as well. You need someone that know like an advanced editor that knows how to use the
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platforms, knows everything about it, knows it all in and out. But now AI is good enough to get viral clips. There's no doubt. You don't need a trained editor to get a viral clip.
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You don't need a someone who knows how to use Premiere Pro, DaVinci Resolve, like skilled editors are completely like just not necessary when it comes to making viral clips now. AI can definitely do that job for the she just the dumbest individual
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ever. Dumbest people Is that really because the content that the AI produces now as opposed to 2 years ago? The content that's produced now by AI is better than professionals or is it because the standard for what a
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video that would go viral is so low now that even AI is able to do it. And you don't need somebody who actually puts the effort and like care into making a video that expresses whatever they want to express or shares whatever they want
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to to share in the way that they want to do it. I'll say a few things. I'd say if if going viral was so easy, everyone would do it.
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Cuz then we could all have all the sales we wanted, all the customers we wanted, we could all become famous. So, um the standard for going viral is definitely not lower.
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Um if anything, it's higher because the competitiveness for what good content is is so high cuz slot makers like me are posting 1,000 videos a day, right? I would I wouldn't say the bar went higher, but I would say that editors who
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make like good-looking content, good-looking content doesn't necessarily go viral. And there's a difference between viral content and like, you know, artistic content. Like a good edit and a good clip are two very very very different things. Average clipper can't
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make a good edit, and a good editor can't really make a good viral clip, right?
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think it's even anything against your profession or anything. I think it's more so of a consumption problem of how us as humans we we like the the short-form dopamine quick hit of like a quick clip of something that's funny or
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something that makes you like interested and hooked onto it instead of that long-form professional content.
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I would actually say that editing and clipping are just two very different like just two very different things as a whole. I would say they're two different skill sets. I wouldn't say they're the same thing at all.
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Um I would say that obviously you need to You don't even need to know how to edit to make a clip anymore.
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I think whoever's writing these prompts needs to [laughter] Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Thank you. That's all right.
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So, I just have one question because I think you're selling a bit of a false dream. When you're talking about clipping and how it's benefited you, you speak a lot about like your free time and how much money you have. But, a lot
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of the free time that you have is because you made a business from clipping. You have the AI clipping software, not necessarily from just spending all of your hours clipping itself. So, if you want all of your customers to have the freedom that you
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have, why don't you teach them how to make a business instead of just how to clip?
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as easy. I don't tell people they're going to make a million dollars a year cuz, you know, they're probably not. I don't like, you know, preach that. I think that when it comes to clipping, like you you want to make three, four,
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five hundred grand a year from your phone, or from a laptop, and you want to have, you know, your time freedom, location freedom, and stuff like that.
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Yeah, I think clipping's pretty good for you. Are you going to become a millionaire from clipping? Yeah, you probably could, but it'll take a few years. You're not going to like make a million dollars a year and stuff like
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that. You could, it'd just be a little bit harder. I think that, you know, average person can definitely make like four, five hundred grand a year from clipping and stuff like that. But, when it comes to my business, like yeah, I
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don't teach it because it's a lot harder to make seven million dollars a year than it is, you know, ten, twenty, thirty thousand dollars a month from clipping.
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Yeah, but a lot of in like the arguments that we have today, you're saying about all of the millions that you have and how you can you're like going somewhere on Tuesday and you just have no plan you
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can do whatever. And that's you saying, "Oh, you should do clipping." But, no, that's because you have a business. So, I just think your advertisement is like falsely leading people to do that.
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Yeah, I made my first million when I was 19. And um all the money I made up until that point was from clipping. It was all from clipping. Now, it took me like three years to stack that before I actually
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got there. But, when I did get there, um it was all from clipping. I was making fifty thousand dollars, sixty thousand dollars a month from clipping.
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My agency that I had that was all clipping just for clients as well. All the clients I signed, um all from clipping. Like, make a page for a creator. Exactly what I showed on my phone. Make a page for a creator, they
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reach out, you sign them on retainer, you know? And that's how these things work.
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Um but you can definitely, you know, make your first like 30, 40, 50,000 in a month just just from clipping, which provides you the same freedom when it comes to location, the same freedom when it comes to time, the same freedom when
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it comes to work. Whether it's like 7 million a year or 600 grand a year, if you're doing it from your phone with the minimal hours, you get the same freedom.
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But how many hours to make 50k a month? When it comes to clipping? Yeah.
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Um it's that's like a subjective thing, right? So, the reason I use 100 clips in a day or or in a day or whatever it is is because that's like a base level everyone can do. When it comes to like
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making 50,000 a month, it's possible, but it's definitely skill oriented at that point. Definitely like, you know, some clippers have an edge because they see things differently, they've developed the skill of clipping better than others, they work on better
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campaigns, they've been given better opportunities because of what they've achieved, these type of things, you know?
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So, that is a skill required. Like the average person, you know, it's just reps. The actual skill set is reps.
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It's just who does it longest. That's it. There's no like, I need to know this and I need to know it really is just who does it longest.
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So, if they do it for a long period of time, but they're all [ __ ] like what's the skill in that?
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If someone does something every day for 2 years, they are never as [ __ ] as when they first started. Never. I don't think you could give me an example of that ever happening.
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Okay, so you don't think anyone will reach your level of financial freedom then through the course that you sell?
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No, I don't I don't sell that. Through clipping. You don't No one No one is going to get to your level through clipping alone.
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But making like eight figures a year? No, no, I don't think you'll make eight figures a year clipping.
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Okay. If you want to make eight figures a year, don't clip. that they want.
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Yeah, not No, they can reach the freedom they want. But they just won't reach eight figures a year clipping.
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as eight figures a year, they should not clip? Well, yeah, then yeah, it's not the right thing then. You need to go and start a business.
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Yeah. [applause] Uh I think uh after you had conversation with all of them Mhm.
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uh I thought like I got get to know that we can make more money uh from the clipping.
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Mhm. Right? I have one question for you. I'll I'll quit my job Uh from the curries.
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Yeah, sorry. I just got something in my eye. Sorry. Can you say that again? I just need to clear my voice.
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I will quit my job from the curries. Uh-huh. And as you said I'll start posting Sorry.
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It's okay, bro. No, no. I want you to make a deal cuz I want to take it for you. I want to do it for you.
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Sorry? Go on. Say what you were going to say. Like I will quit my job from the curries and I'll start posting uh daily videos in the like I'll start uh uploading all the clip uh clippings like uh in the Instagram and the TikTok.
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Uh-huh. From day one to day 30, I'm going to uh upload all the clip clippings.
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Mhm. Okay? So, am I able to generate 2,000 pounds uh income in the You want the same deal as these guys?
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Sorry? You want the same deal as these guys? Yeah, definitely. Okay, I'll give you that deal, bro.
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Definitely because I'm going to quit my job in the curries because it's generating me so much of income in the Yes. Yes, bro. I'm Yes, you [clears throat] can do We can do it.
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Okay. We can do it. Okay, thank you. We can do it. Yeah, definitely. Okay.
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Thank you. [applause] Yeah, um just wanted to show everyone something. So, I ran a little experiment behind the scenes before we end it all.
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This is Farhan. He's a good friend of mine. He's been a clipper forever and he actually has no personal branding. No one knows who he is or whatever he does.
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Um but he is a clipper. He makes a lot of money clipping. He makes like 10,000 a month usually um just off an individual client. He makes a lot of money clipping and I set him the task today. I told him, "Look, I want to show
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these people that we can make money clipping um without doing anything, you know, like uh all in one day. You can do it all in one day. You can make the clips of AI.
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You can post them, get approved for the payout on Content Rewards all in one day. And Farhan has gone You want to show everyone? He's gone and made $172 from a clip that he started this morning. The video got views. How many
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views did he get? 183,000. Got 183,000 views. He got $172 payout on, you know, a project that has a CPM on Content Rewards that allowed him to make that money. So, I just thought I'd come and bring Farhan today who we've
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logged the entire experience behind the scenes. He's filmed the whole filmed the whole thing, so we'll be putting it in the video as well if you want to see that. But, yeah, just to show that it's possible. We've gone and
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done everything behind the scenes. And he's gone and made $172 just to show everyone watching as well. It's possible to do it all in one day. In the time it took for everyone to go to sleep, wake up, and finish this shoot, Farhan's made
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$172 from his video. If you want to be able to make your 100 clips in 20 minutes, in 10 minutes, then go to the link below and go and use crayo.ai now to go and make your content. And if you
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want to get paid for clipping, go and use Content Rewards.
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