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Why So Many Are Quitting Nonduality — And Why I'm Still Speaking. Streamed live Oct 6, 2024 (Clip)

Lisa Cairns discusses why many teachers are quitting non-duality and why she continues to speak on it despite challenges and misconceptions.

Key Takeaways

  • Non-duality is often misunderstood and can be misused as spiritual bypassing.
  • Combining therapy with non-duality is beneficial but risks losing the pure essence of non-duality teachings.
  • The true power of non-duality lies beyond intellectual knowledge in energetic resonance and witnessing consciousness.
  • Despite challenges, Lisa continues to speak on non-duality because of its profound impact on her life.
  • Non-duality challenges conventional spiritual and personal identity concepts, making it controversial.

What the video covers

  • Many non-duality teachers on YouTube are quitting or expressing doubts about the subject.
  • Non-duality is increasingly seen as a 'dirty word' in spirituality due to perceptions of spiritual bypassing.
  • Lisa shares how non-duality radically and instantly changed her life for the better.
  • The concept challenges the reality of the personal self and thought realm, which can be offensive or misunderstood.
  • Misinterpretations of non-duality can lead to mental detachment or depersonalization.
  • Many teachers now combine non-duality with therapy and self-improvement techniques.
  • Lisa values pure non-duality talks for their deep energetic resonance beyond intellectual understanding.
  • She highlights the rarity and unpopularity of teaching pure non-duality without mixing other topics.
  • The essence of non-duality involves a shift into witnessing consciousness or 'beingness'.
  • Lisa references Nisargadatta Maharaj and the importance of moving beyond mental concepts to direct experience.

Answers

Questions about this video

Why are many teachers quitting non-duality according to Lisa Cairns?

Many teachers are quitting because non-duality is increasingly seen as spiritual bypassing and is misunderstood or misused, leading to a negative perception in the spiritual community.

What does Lisa Cairns say about combining therapy with non-duality teaching?

Lisa supports combining therapy and non-duality as it helps people, but she warns that doing so exclusively might cause the loss of the pure, energetic essence of non-duality teachings.

What is the core benefit of non-duality talks according to Lisa?

The core benefit is the energetic resonance that transcends intellectual understanding, calling one into witnessing consciousness or beingness, which is much deeper than just learning concepts.

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Speaker A
I feel very inspired to talk about the title today. So many teachers are quitting non-duality. Should I?
00:09
Speaker A
So if you watch a lot of non-duality on YouTube, you might have noticed there are lots of teachers recently saying why they started, why they quit non-duality, or why they're quitting. Speaking about non-duality, why I don't speak about
00:26
Speaker A
non-duality anymore. Um, yeah. And I feel like non-duality is becoming a bit of a dirty word in spirituality.
00:35
Speaker A
I could be wrong. It's only from my observation of the YouTube algorithms, and maybe everybody else gets really different algorithms than me. Um, but yeah, there's a perception of negativity towards non-duality, and I feel like it's been building for quite some
00:54
Speaker A
years now. This idea that non-duality is spiritual bypassing. Um, yeah, and I think that you all know how passionate I am about speaking and teaching if that is such a thing, if you can teach non-duality. But speaking about
01:18
Speaker A
non-duality, like to me, it saved my life. It radically changed my life, and I feel internally, internally, eternally, not internally, eternally grateful for that.
01:40
Speaker A
Like it really radically changed my life in an instant. Even though there was a buildup to it, the last bit was an instant.
01:50
Speaker A
And yeah, I've said many times in videos before that I feel like my life would have been quite difficult if I hadn't got into this subject.
02:00
Speaker A
But I understand why it's getting such a bad rep for many reasons. Um, firstly because I mean it's kind of saying that if you are in the present moment and not going off into thoughts and not going off into
02:25
Speaker A
ideas of yourself, then there is no problem, and that is fundamentally offensive to the human race and to even spiritual, a lot of spiritual traditions or teachers because it's denying the existence of the thought realm being real in any way
02:51
Speaker A
and the person being real and that the person can or will become enlightened. Um, I can understand why that creates problems because, um, if it's not really understood and it's not really this energetic movement into what Nisargadatta would call the witnessing mode, the
03:20
Speaker A
supreme witnessing mode. I'm not exactly sure how he would phrase it, but something like that.
03:26
Speaker A
Or what I would call like this expansion or the empty looking. If there's not the movement to that and non-duality is taken mentally, then I can see why it can be considered dangerous or problematic.
03:46
Speaker A
You can, yeah. Because some people might be using it as a story to tell themselves and a way to deny feelings and emotions by telling themselves there's nobody here and trying their best to put their attention in the present moment. Might
04:16
Speaker A
some people might even name or categorize that as depersonalization. Um, whereas I don't really feel it's like that, and it wasn't like that for me.
04:30
Speaker A
Maybe there was a period of it being like that for me, but there was a going past that.
04:37
Speaker A
Um, yeah, so a lot of teachers now feel the appropriate thing to do is to teach therapy and non-duality simultaneously.
04:51
Speaker A
And I think that that's brilliant. That's great to teach non-duality, therapy, and self-improvement.
05:01
Speaker A
Um, all different types of techniques to help the person and speak about non-duality. I'm not against that in any way.
05:13
Speaker A
However, I feel like if all teachers do that, then the beauty and the magic of just talking about non-duality will be lost because I feel what happens when you just stay close to speaking about non-duality, maybe there's a bit of
05:33
Speaker A
movement onto the personal realm. It's like inevitable when you do question answers. Um, if you just stay there, then, um, then what's missed is this—I mean, what they were traditionally called transmission, but I'm always reluctant to use those types of words
05:56
Speaker A
because who would be transmitting to who? So if there is a sticking to non-duality, I feel like it's like this deep meditation that can happen in the talks, but it's not appropriate for everyone, and I really understand it's never going
06:15
Speaker A
to be popular. Yeah, I've been doing this 12 years now, and I've watched many teachers become popular, and it's very rare that they're just speaking pure sort of more about non-duality. They're normally mixing with other things because, yeah, it's not very popular
06:41
Speaker A
to just speak about it. You learn the concepts really quickly. So, you know, in maybe under a year, you're like, "Okay, I'm done. I've learned everything Lisa's got to say," or "I learned everything. I've done, I've mastered it."
06:55
Speaker A
And then the mind thinks that's what it is. But that's actually not the beauty of having satsang and speaking about non-duality. The beauty is the energetic resonance that can happen that's beyond the mind, that's beyond intellectual knowing, that's much, much deeper.
07:13
Speaker A
It's the calling into the witnessing consciousness. I think this is what Maharaj would call it. I'm so affected by him at the moment because I do his book in the book clubs, and, um, but I would have called it beingness or the empty looking or impersonal I amness. It doesn't really matter.
07:29
Speaker A
beingness or the empty looking or impersonal I amness. It doesn't really matter.
Topics:non-dualityspiritualityspiritual bypassingwitnessing consciousnessNisargadatta Maharajtherapy and spiritualityself-improvementLisa Cairnssatsangdepersonalization

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