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Hi, my name is Peggy Overier, medical intuitive and energy healer. Today I have an amazing guest. She's someone whose work has touched so many of us.
Lisa Wetsel discusses spiritual gifts, Akashic records, and shifting from fear to love in a supportive online community.
Key Takeaways
- Spiritual gifts and intuition are awakening widely now, supported by higher vibrational energies.
- Fear-based content is part of an old control paradigm; shifting to love is essential for personal and collective ascension.
- The Akashic records provide clear, loving guidance that supports healing and spiritual growth.
- Building a heart-centered community online helps people find their tribe and feel supported in their journey.
- Meditation and awareness practices help align with divine energy and unlock spiritual potential.
Summary
- Lisa Wetsel is an Akashic records master consultant who channels messages of love and hope.
- Her YouTube channel fosters a supportive, heart-centered community focused on spiritual growth and healing.
- The Akashic records hold the energetic imprint of every soul and are accessed at a high vibrational frequency.
- Lisa emphasizes rejecting fear-based messaging common in spiritual media and promotes love-centered guidance.
- She explains the importance of shifting from old paradigms of fear and control to new paradigms of peace and ascension.
- The community around her channel resonates with the intention of spiritual awakening and connectedness.
- Lisa shares insights on intuition, meditation, and activating spiritual gifts and abundance.
- She highlights the role of soul contracts and healing in personal growth and heart expansion.
- The video discusses the evolving human consciousness and multi-dimensional nature of beings.
- Lisa encourages embracing love and light to navigate challenges and transform life experiences positively.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Community Overview
- 03:25The Vibrational Frequency of Love and Community
- 06:55Rejecting Fear-Based Spiritual Messaging
- 10:01Shifting Paradigms: From Fear to Love
- 13:20Intuition and Spiritual Gifts Activation
- 18:28Meditation and Staying Present
- 25:16Understanding Multi-Dimensional Being and Oneness
- 31:44Soul Contracts and Heart Expansion
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Lisa Wetszel. She's an Akashic records master consultant, a writer, a guide, and a host of an incredible YouTube channel. Every month, tens of thousands of people tune in for her messages channeled from the Akashic records guides. And along with her powerful
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light language transmissions, she sends hope for everyone. The Akashic records hold the energetic imprint of every soul. And Lisa has a gift for reading them in a way that feels clear, loving, and deeply personal. And what I love
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most about her is her genuine heart. And it comes through so strongly with everything she shares. And her messages are just so hopeful and heart-centered. She's had me on her show and the people I've connected through that
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interview were some of the most high vibrational heart-centered souls I've ever worked with. Her community is incredible. So, it is a real joy to welcome her today. Thank you so much for agreeing to be on my little channel.
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Thank you for having me. What a beautiful, a little bit embarrassed. Oh, you are introductions.
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You're way too humble, Lisa. You're way too humble. You have thousands of views every single month on your beautiful channel messages, and what I love reading is the comments. Tell me a little bit about your community.
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I love my community. And you know what's so interesting though is that, um, so on my YouTube channel I, you know, I started out with the intention that what the vision was was to bring in people that do healing work because so
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many of us are going through this process and recognizing that there's things that I have to let go of and these energies and these traumas and all of this stuff and I don't really understand and I don't know what's
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happening, and I don't have any resources. And so what my idea was was to bring people who do different types of healing work and teachings so that people would have resources that were outside of just their small local communities. And what
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has happened is that these beautiful people have found my little community. And you know, it's like finding your tribe. And so the messages and the people that I talk to, we're all the same vibrational frequency as you understand. You know, you're one of
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them. We all have the same intention. We all have the same love in our hearts. We're all wanting to ascend.
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We're all wanting to find peace, love, and happiness and be these beautiful spiritual beings that we're intended to be. And the people that are binding me are all in alignment with that desire, that understanding and that
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connectedness. And so I read every single comment, every comment. And when I read the comments, it just absolutely fills my heart because what I have recognized is that those comments of love and gratitude and all of these feelings of togetherness is a
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vibrational frequency. And so, you know, I obviously I didn't intend this, but oh my gosh, it makes me so, you know, and so when people are reading these comments instead of reading mean, hateful, snide remarks, it's like, oh my gosh,
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I'm feeling the love here. The love is touching me. And so it just evolved into this beautiful little community of like-minded thinkers that are resonating with the messages that the Akashic masters and my beautiful guests are sharing and here we go.
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Here's our community. Yeah. Smile every time I read all the comments. I love it.
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Well, that is the most beautiful thing and I get full body goosebumps when you share that. And one of the things that I love about your YouTube channel is it doesn't, it's not the clickbait fear-mongering stuff that you see a lot of in
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the spiritual community. So talk to me a little bit about the direction of the masters and their, um, in terms of what they believe that's happening in the future around humanity because there's a lot of messages, you know, things are
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going awful. It's division. There's all these horrible things, yet the messages that you bring through are just so uplifting and they just warm my heart. So, tell me a little bit about what has been channeled recently.
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Well, again, I love my guides, my gosh, masters. You know, it's a different, it's a different field of energy. It's a different source, different form of guides than what some others are. And the eclectic masters are based in love.
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You know, it's the divine. It's the connectedness to all things. It's the highest vibrational frequency. And when, if you've ever heard anything about the Akashic records or learned how to channel them, one of the very first
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things that we're taught when we were taught to open the records and the way that I was taught was that, you know, you can only stay in the records for so long because the vibration is so high, our bodies can't
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handle it. It's the high frequency, you know, that love energy that they're bringing in. And I, you know, I've thought about this a lot. And number one, I cannot live in fear. I refuse to live in fear.
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And to promote messages of fear is not in alignment with who I am. And I refuse to do it. And I know that my energy that I'm bringing in is in alignment with who I want to become.
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If that makes sense. And so I think that the way that I feel as a human has aligned with the guides and my support team to share messages of love. And I, you know, and I think that if people can
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steer away from the fear and really start standing in that love, everything is okay way of thinking, then you're going to find that everything in your life is going to start shifting and changing and you're going to find more
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happiness and joy and what you thought was tragic and horrible, it's just an experience that you're going through instead of, oh my God, it's literally the end of the world. You know, it's not really the way that I choose to
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see things. So the messages, how far back do you want to go? You can just keep going.
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I just love listening to you speak. So you can, yeah, keep sharing. Well, this is coming from my head. So, sometimes when I talk from my head, I struggle finding the words. So, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try. Okay.
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Well, if you want to bring the, if you want to bring through the masters at any point, you just bring through, bring them through.
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Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm listening to, I have my records open and I'm listening to them, but I'm going to try.
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So, because I do have some soapbox issues. I couldn't fit my, so fear is a big one. And you know, being able to recognize that, you know, fear-mongering is part of the old paradigm, fear-mongering is part of control.
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And so this whole thing about, you know, putting these thumbnails out on Facebook, and I'm not disparaging anybody, you know, it's the way that, um, people have been taught. You want more viewers, this
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is what you do. You know, however you want to do it, that, you know, this is how you do it. You know, following the algorithms and all that. I choose not to do my business that way.
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But, um, you know, we have been taught and conditioned throughout, you know, centuries that if we can scare people into listening to our words, then we will be able to control them. The more that I could put you in fear, the more that
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you're going to look for, what do I need to be afraid of next? What's happening?
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How is the world going to end today? Is California falling off of the United States? You know, all of the things that, you know, these words are grabbing you and pulling you in and you, and I'm seeing a fisherman catching a
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fish and pulling it in. Then you're hooked. Literally, you're hooked. But that's not who we're meant to be as humans. And the way that the old paradigm, this new, this new earth, the new energy, this who we're turning into
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is to break down that old paradigm of fear, of control.
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I don't want to do that because I want to shift the paradigm. And that's the reason why I put out there the the the messages and the words that I used because my my intention is to build love, to build strength and
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security in who we are, find our individualism and not fall into other people's um ways of being and that old energy. And so what's happening and again thank you very much for recognizing that that how I choose to
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use my platform. Um, you know, if if more and more people would choose to move into this place of, you know, things may get a little bit rocky and it might it might get a little shaky.
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Literally, the earth's shaking, meteorites falling out of the sky. It might get a little shaky, but what's happening is for bettering mankind.
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It's bettering humanity. It's raising the vibrational frequency so that the earth can be more in balance than what it currently is and that we can all reside in in the same plane of existence and peace and harmony. And if if we can
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see that and understand it and I do that, I promote love and and safety and everything is going to be okay. It's all exactly how it's divinely been orchestrated. and you do it and somebody else does it and somebody else does it.
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Then all of a sudden our collective energy of spreading this message of love and safety and care and loving one another then in that energy frequency it pushes down the fear. It well actually what it does is it pushes it out and it
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disperses it so that it doesn't hold on to us like it like it has been in the past. This is all the shift into the fifth dimension.
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This is all part of it. I love that. And what role I I I just love the way you've explained that and I love the focus on love and um and just pushing away fear and this that the
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power of the collective. What role does intuition play because I you've written this beautiful ebook that I downloaded and read and it's actually so succinctly summarized on you know how to actually develop your intuition. What role does intuition play you think in this new
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earth and the 5D ascension of humanity? Everything. Yeah. Okay. Tell us. [clears throat] Well, okay. So, the the word becoming more I mean I I don't even know where to start because there's all these stories that are jumping into my head. But,
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okay, I'm going to give you some direction. Okay. So the way that we live right now is that we live up here in our head and the stories that we have been taught to hold on to. Okay. So the way
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that my mother taught me to look at life, the way that society says you're supposed to have relationships and friends. This is who you're supposed to be in order to be a successful human.
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You have to have this much money. You got to drive this kind of car. All of these structures that we're living in all come from the mind. It's it's all been programmed into our our minds and our thought patterns so that we live
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this way. And the way that my guides have described it to me is that for example now this isn't any statistics or anything but for example in one in a day in an average day we live about 98% of
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our day up here in the thought patterns and we may live 2% down here in our intuitiveness.
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Now what we what do we call intuitiveness? those little light bulb moments that those aha moments. Oh, I get Oh, I think I need to do this today. Oh, you know, I just had the greatest idea. I wonder if
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I did this. So, you think about you think about when those moments occur for me when I'm putting my makeup on.
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The shower seems to be some that is a regular place to get these inspiration.
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driving out down the road. You know, it's like these little momentary times they're blips in a day that we kind of space out a little bit and we might start having this inner knowing of gosh, I think I need to do
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this or this specific thing that I've been thinking doesn't feel right anymore. Something feels off about it.
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That's all your intuition. It's the inner voice that's speaking to you. Okay. So, 2% down here, 98% here. What's happening is we're moving into this new way of being, new Earth, however you want to call it, fifth dimension energy,
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whatever, is that we're we're flipping this over. So, what's happening is that we're moving this 98% down to less and less, and we're moving the 2% up to a higher and higher percentage. So it's like they're what I'm hearing it's swinging the pendulum.
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Okay. So what's happening is that our mind is becoming more clear so that we can start feeling and become more familiar with that inner voice that lies within us, those guides that speak to us, that inner knowing.
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And so why intuition is important and what we're moving into is is that it's just being able to understand that if I can start making choices and decisions from the little voice that is inside me, how much more am I going to be in
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alignment with the universal frequency, how am I going to be more in alignment with the direction that my soul wants to go? because I'm getting out of my head and making fear-based decisions. Making decisions that look good on paper,
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following statistics, following my traumas. I'm making these decisions because this is what happened and I don't want to experience that again. I don't want to do this because it'll have an uncomfortable outcome. It's bad, you know, or I want to do this because it
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looks like it's going to be fun and it'll have a good outcome, so it's okay, you know. So all of these all of these ways that we make choices and decisions and maneuver through our day are based on programming.
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And so if we can allow our minds to become a little bit more settled, clear out that programming and become more in tune with that inner voice, then we become in the natural rhythm of who we're meant to be as
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humans. And that's what we're moving into. And that's why it's important when we can get out of our head and we can start staying more here in this wholeness. this oneness of who we are.
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Then that's when all the magic starts because I'm in alignment with the divine energy that was meant for me. That's when all of a sudden the abundance starts coming that the telepathy, all of these gifts that people keep talking
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about. It's like you have to get out of your own way to allow these things to come forward because the mind is what's blocking it.
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So what we're doing is we're revealing our true identity. We're revealing the truth of who we are and who we're capable of being. Did that answer the question?
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Yeah, that's so beautiful and really powerful. And you've written an ebook about this and it's on your website. I actually bought it. I love it. And you know what I love? Um you describe how a lot of the inner knowings come through
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when you're like moving or walking or and and Amy and I Amy who I've had on the show before and you've had on your show, we speak about this like we get our best ideas as we're going for walks.
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And so I've got all these voice notes in my and and and after I read that I was like, "Oh, this is really really good." So I'm starting to like do voice notes in my voice memos when I'm getting these
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ideas cuz a lot of offerings or ideas for just different channelneled ideas will come through. So I I really love that. What do you think stops people from accessing their heart space? So like what are some of the suggestions
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that you have? Because I know I I listen to I recently listened to a podcast Dr.
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Julia Mossbridge who's this um scientist who speaks about uh remote viewing and she did scientific studies about remote viewing and she said the people that the the statistic the people that can that have the highest measurements of unconditional love like when they talk
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about unconditional love and they tune into unconditional love they have the highest success rate with remote viewing and I was like wow this is on a mainstream podcast like it was Joe Rogan I think and she had almost a million
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views and this is this she's is an incredible um she's a cognitive neuroscientist like really really bright and she's got an incredible story but I was like wow this is science right this is the stuff that we've known
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intuitively what when I tune into the beautiful clients that I met through your show I'm like oh my god your heart is so big and I'm like oh my god your third eye is is incredible um but then people will my
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book sessions are ask me like how do I get intuition and I'm tuning into the heart space and I'm like oh my god what do you how do what do you say to those people um in terms of you know they're
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really stuck in their mind. They're not connected to their head. What are some of the what are some of the tips and tricks?
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Yeah. Well, it's such a cliche and I hate to even say it. So in meditation, everybody talks about you have to meditate. But there's a trick to this meditation thing because you can meditate walking down the street like you said. You know, when you're
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when you're walking and you're just walking about one, you know, focusing on one step in front of another instead of your mind just going off into some kind of crazy land about I can't believe so and so said that, you know, all these
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crazy stories. When you can focus back in and focus on yourself and staying being present, then you're opening up all of your channels of communication because your mind's not hijacking the energy. But what why this is so important and it does not have to be the
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traditional way of the sitting in the lotus position saying it does not because I can't do that. I can't do it, you know. And so when we think about well and how many people that I talk to it's like I can't sit there for 30
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minutes and do this. It's I just it's I'm not capable of it. I get it. I get it. I totally understand. So let's break it down.
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So let's just say you're going through a day and you can't get quiet for more than five minutes at a time.
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Okay. Let's start with five minutes. Okay. So, so if I am just working on something that's an everyday thing and it's like, okay, I'm I'm just going to spend I'm going to start maybe I may start with 2 minutes, maybe I'll start
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with three minutes, but for our example, we'll start with five minutes. Okay, so my goal is right now is to focus on my breath and to spend five minutes just focusing on my breath. Okay, let's do it. Breathe in.
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Okay. So at the time when you're focusing on the breath in and the breath out, it stops the mind's chaos. Okay. So again, if you can only do it for 2 minutes, do it for 2 minutes. But then
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when you start finding it's like it's like lifting weights, you're re you're building a muscle. Then when you start finding that, oh, I can do this for 2 minutes now. Let's start for three.
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Okay, now let's go to three. And so then you start recognizing that you can build up to being able to focus on your breath. In, out, in, out. And then it doesn't even have to be that big. Once you start getting
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comfortable with it and you're not trying to chase your mind's thoughts out, then you'll start beginning to recognize that you can drop your focus down into your heart space. And then when you breathe, you're focusing on your chest. You're spo focusing on your
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heart. Heart and soul are to me I see them intertwined. So it's in this heart space area. So when I'm breathing and I breathe in, I'm breathing into the space. And so then when I'm letting it go, I'm letting it go from that space in
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and out. Okay? So the thing about doing that is also you're developing a connection to your soul.
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You're developing the understanding that I have this energy that's inside me. Okay, I'm trying not to skip around because so keep me on track. Okay, so what what the idea is is to stop that brain pattern so that you can come
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become connected and start developing the relationship with the soul. We have not been taught to honor the energy body that lies within us. It is a it's a foreign thing.
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We have been taught for human through humanity that human is all about this physical body. The humanness is this and this. We don't even acknowledge and never been taught that I have an energy body that's in me.
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But every time that we watch an NDE experience, you know, they had these people that are talking about these experiences, we all understand there's an energy body that's leaving.
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You know, I get it. this energy body's leaving and they're going and having this beautiful experience in these different dimensions and they're having all these beautiful things and then all the body starts breathing again and then that energy body comes back in the body,
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but then boom, we forget that it's there. And so when you really start thinking about how we've been taught to believe, we want to know all the stories about the when the soul leaves the body and what's it experiencing. But the second
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that it comes back or the second that we walk away from that story, we go right back up into our heads in this spot and look at ourselves as these three-dimensional thick thick vibrational bodies that are not really
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connecting to this beautiful divine being that's inside of me. And so as as we become more familiar and start really recognizing I have a divine being that's inside me. I am the divine being.
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I am this energy. And then when we can start recognizing that we can expand this this soul energy and we can allow it to break out of all of the confinements that that we have created through our belief systems and
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our experiences. Then we start breaking down this this um frame the frame that we built that holds this energy in and confined. As we start breaking down our our belief systems and these patterns and start accepting that I'm an energy body then the s the soul
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starts growing and expanding and then it it starts to moving up through the body.
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And what the idea is is to have the energy body fully expansive within the physical structure to where there are no boundaries anymore. This is that that idea of, you know, the halo, you know, and where you see these luminescent
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beings that are our avatars that are Buddha, that's Jesus, that's Mother Mary, you know, all of these things and all the depictions of this beautiful radiant light that's coming from them.
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Well, guess what? We all have it. We all have that radiant light. But we were taught to believe that we're separate and there's no such thing as this. We're just these physical bodies.
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And so what we're moving into is being able to understand the oneness and the wholeness of who we are as these multi-dimensional beings and that we're not just 3D beings. And so as you get quiet and you start recognizing that I
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can breathe into my essence and I can I can quiet the mind and I can let go of the idea of separateness and start integrating the idea that I'm whole and I'm complete and I'm multi-dimensional.
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Then that's when everything starts coming into place. You open up your channels of communication. Your mind isn't blocking anymore thinking that I can't do this. I'm not connected. How come they do it like that? I want to do
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it like that. I want to see images. I want to speak the words. Well, okay.
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Well, first of all, do you even believe that you can? Well, you have to believe it first because we all have the ability. You just have to get connected and you have to stop the mind chatter and telling you
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stories that you can't or expecting to see it one way or another. And this is where we're breaking down and moving into this new way of being. And so where is intuition playing and how important it is is it
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who we are. And so by being able to take these little little itty bitty things, you know, just these little things about just first of all, let's just start breathing and figure out how I can stop the crazy mind thoughts and get get
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whole. Okay, that's one way. Okay. Now, the other thing I do want to say about meditation and about this work is that like a lot of times when people do structured meditation, okay, I'm going to meditate for 20 minutes, 30 minutes.
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Okay. So, every morning when I wake up, I'm going to spend 30 minutes meditating. Okay, good for you. That's fabulous. But the second that you get up, then you start running and you jump right back in the rat race.
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What do I have to do next? Oh my gosh, I'm at work and I have to get all these things done, you know, right back into the crazy. Okay. Well, the thought and the idea is to be able to stay in that
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meditative state, but being able to implement it throughout your daily life. It does you no good to only stay in that space for that period of time and then right back into fight or flight and the crazy chaos. And so again, this is where
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you come back into the breathing. So what you can learn to do is that when you start finding yourself in panic mode as throughout the day, when you start finding the stories start running away with you, all I need is a minute. Breathe in. And
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the second that you breathe in, hold your breath. And when you hold your breath, everything goes black. It's like it immediately disconnects that brain pattern. Okay, that one time didn't work. Let's do it two times, three times, four times. Okay, let's just keep
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doing it until I can find the quiet and I can get back to being centered where I can start operating in in this whole centered mode and into this space of wholeness instead of up here in this chaos. So, it's a practice of learning
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how to stay in that rhythm of the wholeness of the just being throughout the day. And the more and the more that you can practice and develop the ability just to do this, the more that you're going to start finding that the
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decisions that you make are more in alignment with who you are. You're going to be able to see see the distortions of what's being presented to you.
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You're going to start seeing where that doesn't it's not quite right. You know, you're going to start recognizing people's behavior. Are they saying things from their belief system that may not really be in alignment with what is in your best interest? you'll start
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seeing things clearly. And so that's that's the thing about just moving through the day. Now, other things that are extremely important to me in the way that I learned how to be intuitive is tuning into your senses, which is not ever taught, and I don't I
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don't know anybody that teaches it, but the way that I learned to become intuitive is by doing massage therapy.
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And what happened completely, I mean, my idea was to learn how to do massage. It was not to become a channeler or to hear voices, you know, outside of my head, but I had a beautiful, beautiful group of instructors that were all old school
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massage therapists. They were all trained in the 70s, and they they taught the old school way. And the way that they taught us was by feel. And so they would blindfold us. And the reason why they would blindfold us was to learn how
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to feel the body. Okay? So, you're feeling the body. You're feeling the drags. You're feeling the heat. You're heal feeling the cold. You're feeling the excess energy and the depletion.
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You're feeling the vibrations. You're learning how to feel. So, you're sensitizing your hands. And then when your hands become more sensitive and you become more open to be able to feel these shifts and the changes in the energy pattern, it opens up the
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communication from your sensory the sensory components of your hands to the internal knowing of what's happening.
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And so as as I would do this then I would start hearing voices. I would hear the body talk to me and tell me, "Okay, well, this the ankle injury was caused because he had a fight with his mother
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and the mother energy is being held in the ankle." Okay, well that's interesting, you know. And and then they would come through, the guides would come through and they would tell me how to treat them. They would tell me, "You need to
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hold this point here. You need to hold this point here. And you need to sit there until you start feeling a different frequency." Oh, okay. Why not?
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Let's just try it and see what happens. You know, so but again, you know, when when I was so focused, I used to call meditation was my meditative time, massage was my meditative time. And because I was able to clear my mind and
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be in the present moment and focus on what I was doing and I was focused enough to where I could feel and my mind was empty and that's when the energy was coming to me and speaking to me because
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I was out of my head. I wasn't doing, okay, well, you need to do Petra. you need to do f fluor fluoro oh my god I can't even say the words fluoroc anyway all all of the different strokes
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and the techniques that you know we were supposed to be doing instead of focusing on doing the routine I was able to get quiet and be in the moment and work through the moment without listening to the story in my head you need to do this
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step this step this step and this step and so that that's what helped me but then also being able to be more sensitive start smelling, you know, start working on being quiet enough to start smelling the environment. And you know, a lot of um
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mediums understand this, you know, that maybe Uncle Bob was a smoker and you are sitting in your room and all of a sudden you start smelling smoke. Well, there's nobody smoking in here. Okay, let's get quiet. Where is the smoke taking me? Oh,
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hey, Uncle Bob. Nice to see you again, you know. [clears throat] Or maybe you might feel smell flowers. Okay, so if I'm smelling flowers, then maybe that's something that's trying to take me out into the garden to smell the flowers in the
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garden because there's a message for me out there. And I'm seeing a little fairy little fairy out there that, you know, has a message for you. And so the all of the things that all of the gifts, you
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know, touch, taste, you know, a lot of people their taste changes when they start getting messages. They can they can taste different. Maybe it becomes more acidic, maybe it tastes like copper or maybe it tastes sweet. You know,
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these these things shift and change. Again, being more sensitive to the smell, hearing, you know, the more that you can just get quiet and hear, then the more that you're going to be able to start recognizing the voices and the
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differences, the tones, frequencies. Okay, so I'm hearing a noise, but am I hearing a noise or am I hearing a frequency that's being emitted to me? So when you can start learning how to discern through all of these things,
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it's when when all of your senses start opening up, that's when you become true and pure to who you are. When your hands become sensitive, you can pick up a crystal. And when you hold the crystal, you can feel the frequency and then the
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frequency is going to start speaking to you. You'll start hearing it, become more receptive.
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Yeah, I agree. I I love that analogy and it's a really good reminder to really tune into your senses a lot and I think that's a lot of the work when I do work with clients. It's like oh let's tune
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into your feet. Can you feel the buzzing in your feet when you connect to the earth and most of them do? My question for you is a lot of people get the intuitive hits coming through as thoughts which is how it came through
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for me and then of course I'm like did I make that up or is that my intuition?
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What do you say to the people that come get a lot of clare cognizance and how like learning to trust those those nudges?
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My guides are coming through. Oh, what we want you to recognize is that that anything that is of the negative nature is never divine guidance. It's always the mind and the mind structure that's creating the stories to cause
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harm. Okay? But what we do want you to recognize is the more that you stand in the truth of who you are in the heart frequency, the more that you'll begin to recognize that our voice is soft, that
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the energy that is coming to you that is of the guidance nature will be soft. It will it will be more loving and compassionate. And they're showing me it's like a big blanket that's wrapping around you. When when it's an outside
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source that that is more of the mind nature, you'll recognize that it's hard like a hammer.
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and that the words will be more chaotic and that they'll cause confusion. This this is the mind's mind's creation. It's not the truth of the messages. Did you just chill? I did. It's so this is this is 12thdimensional people. Like you you
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have no I mean I can feel the energy of your transmission and it is very powerful. So yeah, it did it gives me the it gives me the body chill like it just hits my hits me right in the heart.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, it's this I hear people talk about, you know, all the time. Um, I had a I had a client today that was talking about she quit she quit doing um she was doing a form a form of
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channeling and then it started getting chaotic and the messages were a little bit off such as you're not good enough or you don't deserve this or you know all this all this all of this negative things or maybe you're just you're hearing the
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messages that are just spinning in circles. Well, what what we have to recognize as our state of mind when we're when we're hearing these what is going on in your life and that's what I asked her is that you know first of all
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she knew immediately what it was you know it was it was due to a situation and she didn't think you know now that this time has passed mean she hasn't done that type of channeling in years because she was afraid that she was
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going to go back to those old messages I mean it's been years and so when we were talking through it she says I I think that it's because I have a fear of something.
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Okay, let's let's go back to when this started. What was happening? My husband got transferred and I didn't want to go. I was leaving my family. I was leaving my community and I was having to move. And how long
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has this been going on? Six years. How long has it been since you moved? Six years. Okay. you starting to see that your mind was going into a little bit of a tail spin because of the grief and so
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that when you were trying to channel, you were trying to channel, but the grief chaos was intercepting the messages.
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Yeah. And so she wasn't a clear conduit. And so those messages were she she wasn't able to discern what was the truth and what wasn't because she wasn't recognizing that this was her energy that was within her her
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framework. She was thinking she was channeling dark entities and that the dark energy entities were what she was they were telling her that she was wrong or whatever.
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Whatever it is, if you are ever channeling anything that's commu, that's confusing, that creates conflict, that's causing self-doubt, that's telling you you're not worthy. Any of that is not true the true source of the divine energy that is within you. It is
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not who you are. And so when you start recognizing that, start looking at, okay, well, is this the energy that's within me? the fear energy or control energy or whatever it is that's coming up and it's manifesting in this way or
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am I channeling a dark entity, a dark energy that's giving giving me these thoughts. But whatever it is, if you recognize that it doesn't feel comfortable within your body, start looking at it because it is not the true
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essence of who you are. Yeah, I I complete that's exactly what I see in in a lot of my clients. I mean this is the stuff that I remove and what I see is exactly how you said it's not
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just it's usually starts with an emotional or a trauma and a feeling that uh like an energy I see an energy frequency within like and that example that you gave is such a classic one because it's a grief that we have a
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really hard time we're like well I have to leave you u when people move the I see a lot of grief get stuck when people have to move when it's not their choice it's a really difficult one to process
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And then I do see people get this hijacking technologies in their communication lines and they start like I see it it's like very wonky. I mean you you're straight up to the 12th dimension. I mean that is that's pure um
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and anything and I think it's really important for you to point like as you pointed out if it's if it's fear which is what we see some channels on and I say channels on the on the internet and
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they're talking about fear and anger and division and that is not that's not 12thdimensional you know.
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Yeah. So yeah, I think it's so right that it there is there's usually a trauma or an emotion that brings people out of their alignment of their high high vibrational frequency that makes them susceptible to those lower dimensional beings kind of like coming
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in. So as soon as you you have those unhealed parts of your being which all come up for healing, right?
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Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, the other thing I was going to say is that you know like when you're trying to channel, you really need to be aware of your state of mind. So if I'm asking the guides a question, if I already have a
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determined answer or an answer that I want to hear, you're distorting the the message. You know, if you are, you know, if you're already kind of jumping in or you're in emotional state where you're in a panic or ill at ease, you're
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hijacking the guidance. You're already changing it around before you even even get anything. So, so basically what I guess what I'm trying to say is that again this is another reason why it's really really important to be out of
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your head and being quiet and being centered when you're asking for your guidance. And if you're if you're in a state of mind that's chaos, you know, or fearful or you know, all of the all of the things, don't even try. Stop. Just
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don't waste your time. You know, I' i've learned this. I learned that, you know, whenever I'm in the most struggle years ago, I've been doing this for, you know, 23 years. And whenever I started doing this and I would find that, oh my god,
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you know, I just broke up with my boyfriend. What's going to happen? And all chaotic and crazy. It's like, I cannot do my own records because I have too much of a personal investment. And I learned, you know, 20 years ago, it's
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like, no, I have a friend that I'll ask them to give me some guidance and then she would kick me in the butt and keep [clears throat] your head on straight. But but what the point is is that, you know, if you're in the middle
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of whatever is going on, it's really hard to get your own answers. And I do I I do recommend going to somebody else that is a neutral source to give you an objective answer instead of trying to figure stuff out on your own sometimes
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when you're in too much chaos. That is such a good reminder because when you have that anxiety but like what's happening in the future? What should I do next? Or what choice should I make? And you're sitting there and
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you're like what should I do? Where are my guides? Where are my guides? And I I I can relate to that for sure.
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Yeah. Now we're getting close to the hour and we haven't even spoken about the galactics. I want you to talk to me about these galactic codes that are coming in because I I have been seeing so much of it in the clients like you
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know these these beings are coming through. I'm I'm plans are coming through very strongly for me uh in my in my healing sessions and it's just I love this galactic part of your messages. So tell me a little bit about these
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galactic codes coming through. Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna do my thing. My brain get okay. So the DNA the DNA um so like I'm seeing a helix the DNA is is coming back online on and in light and as the
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DNA is being activated it's calling in the home the home species. I've never heard this before. Okay. It's calling in the home species. And what we want you to recognize is that the galactic codes that you that you're familiar with are
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is is the the the codes that belong to the origin and the the species of where the DNA was created that is within the human structure. Okay. Now, but I want to I want to interrupt this a bit. Now
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they're talking about the origin of that specific strand of DNA. It is not the origin of your soul.
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Okay? Make sure you understand what the difference is. Where am I from? Okay. So, me being an aosic records reader, you know, your soul was created at the beginning of time and you came from dust particles. Okay. That's your origin. But
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do you want to know where the genetics come from within the physical structure? That's different.
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Okay. So, because I get asked this all the time. What's my origin? Okay. Well, connected to your soul.
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So, I'm going to give you the answer where your soul soul was. That's the origin is where you know this is where it it began at the beginning of time.
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So, so but what we want you to recognize is that the intergalactic connectedness of who all humans are is being activated and reactivated in a way that their powers can come forward so that they are in the the true connection of their
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knowledge, their wisdom and the understanding of who humans are and who they're to become.
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Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. Yeah. So, I can I can hear the difference and I get that. So, you're a creator being. You've come from s like um I mean we're all from source, but there's I understand what you're
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talking about the soul origin. And then um and then there's like the DNA part of it where we we all have galactic DNA. I mean, that's just the origin of our of our human species. We have had Y,
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you know, people don't realize this, but you know, we're Syrian and Plleadian and Arcturian and and Lord knows what other universes.
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Um yeah, that we don't we're not even aware of. We don't have the names of the planets. Um, and so what what are some of these beautiful as their codes are coming online? What are we seeing in terms of
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the capabilities of humans as as they're coming [clears throat] online? What what does this galactic code mean? The activation of galactic code for the ascension.
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Okay, so the first thing that I'm hearing right now, which this is unusual because this I've never heard this before, but it's seers into the future.
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They're saying it's it's the omniresence of all beings. And so what we want you to recognize is that as as these codes are being activated within the human structure, their their true essence is being activated so that they can become
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communicators with different universes with different ways of of communication. So what I'm seeing is that being able to communicate with the animals, with the plants, with the dirt, with the rocks, with the sun, being able to communicate in every different form, in every
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different way. It's like there's Well, they're laughing and saying because everyone's vibrations. That's them saying it.
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It's a vibration. And so when our vibrational frequency is at the level of being able to understand the true essence of who one is, the galactic technology is activated to create the ability to connect in foreign manners than what the human has has been able to
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to connect to in this particular lifetime. But what we want you to recognize is that this is not that that old. And I'm seeing like prehistoric man, you know, and the way that that they would communicate and it's like,
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you know, you can hear and I'm seeing like somebody in a hunter and it's like back in time we were highly sensitive beings. You know, it's called living with your intuition. It's animal instinct. You know, it's being able to
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hear the sound, you know, that's a mile away that it's like, I hear footsteps coming, but wait a minute, there's nobody around you. No, I can hear it.
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It's coming. You know, so what's happening is that it's reactivating the natural nature of who we are, being more telepathic as when I'm speaking to you, I am speaking to you in a form of light language, which is the vibrational
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frequency in which all humans used to connect to and connect with. So what we want you to understand is this vibrational frequency and this form of communication is becoming more prevalent in the human species and it will become
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known to all in the days to come. But what we also want you to recognize is that the frequency dropping into the heart space. The more that the human is familiar with the space of the heart, the soul energy, the more that the
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humans connect heart to heart, soul to soul, and the mind becomes oblivious to the understanding and the ideas of the truest nature of who one is.
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You understand what I'm saying? I do. It's making me tear. Yeah. Because what's happens, you know, what's what's happening now is that we place a judgment you know, immediately because this is where human brains. I look at something
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and I place a judgment on it. I put it in a category and I label it and say this is the way that it is.
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The way that we're moving into again going back into this intuition, everything that we talked about is that when I can become more connected to my heart and I can raise and become more familiar with the frequency that it
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emits, then it starts radiating from me and then my heart is connecting to your heart. the soul frequency between one another is becoming more prominent to where it's a frequency relationship and it's not a mind- driven relationship.
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That make sense to you? It makes complete sense. It's so beautiful. It's actually the the the vibration coming off your words is so powerful. It's actually it just touched my heart and made me quite teary.
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Yeah. And the time has gone by so quickly, but you want to say something else. Keep going.
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Yeah. You know, one of the things when people keep talking about telepathy, I want to make sure that people know that we're talking about telepathy, not mental telepathy.
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Okay? I'm not reading your mind. What's happening is my heart is reading your heart. My soul is connecting to your soul. It's not mind readading telepathy.
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It's heart rating telepathy. And that's why we see pets and little children, they do it. They gravitate towards certain people because you you just you give off a particular frequency because they they're just reading vibration.
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Absolutely. I have one more question if you've got time for me because I just I see so much of my clients, you know, they they have a lot of stuff holding them back and I can feel the blocks and stuff. What do
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you think holds people back from accessing their heart space? We got on fear. So what we want you to recognize is that the human nature is more based in fear due due to the due to the human construct of fear of
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disappointment, fear of being let down, fear of being dis disappointed being hurt, um fear of maltreatment, um fear of abusive behavior, fear. And so what we want you to recognize is that the individual that holds on to any form
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of fear is holding their heart so tightly that it constricts the vibrational frequency that resides within it and it prevents it from expanding. So fear fear is a big fear is a big deal and again this is why we
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don't want to keep promoting fear and fear and fear and that stop it stop it.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And what role does forgiveness play? Do you It's it's a major it's a major component and being able to let go of the pain that one's holding on to so tightly that it's causing the confinement of the
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heart, you know, and and again when we're talking about forgiveness, there's so many different ideas. I if I forgive them, then I'm giving them permission to treat anybody me or anybody else this way.
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Not exactly. Not exactly. What's happening is that when you can fully understand that the way that somebody's acted or behaved or treated you, there's a soul alignment here, you know, there's this there's these things called soul contracts and agreements. And sometimes
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the way that somebody acts, the way that I act, you know, there's something in my energy pattern that needs to address the situation. And so, first of all, if I can have a clearer understanding and let's just say somebody that like a
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parent that has been abusive, the hard one of the hardest things for us to get over and especially sexual abuse and it's a big deal and believe me, I understand it. But being able to understand that it's deeper than just
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what the surface what our mind says and the way that we've been taught to where this is a horrific deal. There's energy patterns and there's stories beneath the surface that if you can get tapped into and recognize that this everything is
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for a bigger a bigger picture and it's not just as cut and dry as what the mind says and then you can start recognizing that you know what I actually did learn something from this. This did make me
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stronger. This did stand in my independence. I recognized I was breaking old old karmic energy that had to do with with these types of relationships throughout different lifetimes. Oh, I recognized that I am who I am today because of this
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experience. It wasn't fun. It wasn't something that I ever want to do again. But I get it and I understand that I can be grateful for the teacher because the teacher pushed me along my path to become the
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person that I am becoming which is more in alignment with my divine being. And there is that form of forgiveness. And when you can and again that may not be the story for everybody but this is just one way of looking at it. So when I can
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forgive my mother for abusing me physically, I can understand that that whatever role she had to play, she had a soul contract. I had a soul contract. And if I keep holding on to that hatred and anger in my heart, what's it doing to
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me? But if I can if I can let that go and I can start opening up my heart in a way that it's been so constricted, you know, to where we can break that that shell or the confinement. And then we
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can start letting our our heart go and start opening and expansive. Who do you want to become? Do you want to become that free being that can love unconditionally and be happy and joyful or do you want to stay in that place of
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mean and anger and I'm sick of you and you know all of this you know you're a horrible person you know when you start recognizing what the difference is and the energy pattern and really start looking at who do you want to become if
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I can recognize that I can let go of the pain and the suffering and the hatred and the anger that I have created for myself due to these events then I'm freeing myself from those confinements.
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Does that make sense? That is a beautiful explanation. I have that I love the way you explain that because it really is it's freeing, isn't it? It's not about the other person.
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It's not about they're not getting off with anything or getting away with anything. It's really just about your own heart expansion and cutting those cords, which you write about so beautifully in your both of your ebooks.
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So, I encourage everybody to go to um to Lisa's website and download. going to you've got an incredible list of different resources there for people. Is there anything else you want to share with uh the audience about what you've
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got coming up or any other things that you have that you would like to talk about?
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Well, um I do I do have a YouTube channel and I have I have weekly guests on on my podcast and then I do a monthly message as well and then I have little short snippets that are also included in
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that. You can find me on Facebook and Instagram and then my website is lisaell.com and you can go to the store and see the resources that I have there. Again, all my podcasts are on the website, but I
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also do monthly events. I do two two monthly events and that you can join in a couple of different ways. I do have a membership program and if depending on the level that you join and the membership you know depends on the free
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services or the free events that you can attend but I do I have two Zoom events a month and one of them is on the topic of the monthly whatever the monthly message is we go deeper into that message in one
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of the events and then in another event we the second event it is um it's a topic that is asked about a But it'll it's usually a common topic that we just dive into a little bit deeper. It is a
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it's a channeling back and forth. It is talking to one another. It's creating a community where um of like-minded individuals, you know, people that are thinking like we are.
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I love it because people are dying for community and Yeah. So fantastic. Thank you so much for creating such a wonderful um community for everybody and for hosting such beautiful people on your channel and for channeling the most divine
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messages that just lighten up my heart every time I read them. And even your Instagram, I it's so beautiful. It's always so hopeful. You always have such beautiful messages and reminders and they just seem to come along exactly
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when I need them. Like I have a bit of a lovehate relationship with Instagram and I'm like, "Oh, I'll just I'll download it. Oh, I'll put it back on." And then I read like, "Oh, Lisa's channel. It's so
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pretty and beautiful. So, thank you. Thank you for being for everything that you've done for everyone. So, I appreciate it very much.
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Well, thank you and thank you for giving me this opportunity to share my message.
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Great. We'll have all the all those links down below in the captions in the show notes and and I look forward to speaking to you again soon. Thank you so much Lisa.
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Thank you.
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