Marina Gribanova delivers a legendary, engaging lecture on the truth about drugs, explaining poison mechanisms and human reactions with humor and clarity.
Key Takeaways
- Pleasure is a natural and generally positive experience, often misunderstood in social contexts.
- Poisons are substances foreign to the body that cause harm and trigger specific biological defense mechanisms.
- The body reacts to poisons in stages: activation, slowing down, and shutdown to prevent fatal damage.
- Alcohol and caffeine serve as common examples of poisons that affect the body’s functioning in predictable ways.
- Passing out from intoxication is a protective survival response, not a failure or weakness.
What the video covers
- The lecture begins with interactive exercises to engage the audience and introduce the topic of pleasure and its perception.
- Marina discusses societal attitudes toward pleasure and how people often misunderstand or stigmatize it.
- She explains the biological mechanism of poisons, emphasizing how the body reacts to toxins like alcohol and coffee.
- The brain acts as a computer, detecting poisons and commanding the body to expel them, causing physical reactions like increased heart rate and activity.
- Stages of poisoning are described: initial activation, slowing down, and eventual shutdown to protect the body from fatal damage.
- Examples include alcohol consumption and coffee intake to illustrate how poisons affect the body in measurable stages.
- The lecture highlights the body's survival mechanisms, such as passing out to avoid death from poisoning.
- Marina uses humor and relatable scenarios to make complex physiological processes understandable and interesting.
- She challenges common misconceptions about pleasure, drugs, and poison, encouraging a more informed perspective.
- The talk is structured with clear explanations, audience interaction, and practical examples to maintain engagement.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Audience Exercise
- 05:20Understanding Pleasure and Social Attitudes
- 10:00Biological Mechanism of Poisons
- 15:00Stages of Poison Effect on the Body
- 20:00Examples: Alcohol and Coffee Effects
- 25:00Body’s Survival Mechanisms
- 30:00Summary and Misconceptions About Drugs
- 35:00Closing Remarks and Audience Interaction
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Hey. Are you ready? Excellent. Then let’s start the exercise. I will simply ask you to do something. You do it. I will acknowledge that I saw it. Let’s begin. Look at the ceiling. Good. Look at the floor. Excellent. Look at this wall. Good. Find a picture here that you like best. Excellent. Look out the window. Good.
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Wave your hand at the window. Well done. Uh, look at your neighbor. Say quietly to them, "Hello."
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Excellent. Raise your right hand up. Good. Lower it down. Touch your knees, your own, please, not your neighbor’s. Good. Raise your left hand up.
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Excellent. Wave your hand at me. Good. Lower it down. Listen, we can do this very quickly because, well, you know, it’s fast. So, the first question I want to ask you. First, I am asking you to raise your hand if
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you agree with the following statement. The statement is: who thinks that pleasure is bad?
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Oh, silence. Yes, notice, the audience is apparently very good, because not a single person was found who said that clever thing, "It depends on what kind." Because people often say, "It depends on what kind." I don’t know what a person is
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thinking when they say, "It depends on what kind." I don’t understand that. Because when you ask someone, "Is pleasure good or not?", they run through it in their head. Well yeah, when I’m happy, when I get some joyful emotions, I like it, it’s good.
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That’s normal. So, pleasure is good. The next question is a little strange. Uh, tell me, have you ever seen, uh, heard from your parents when they say this to you? Or, for example, one parent to another, or one adult to
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another? Well, it doesn't matter. In general, basically, the expression sounds something like this. Face with such a look. You only want to get pleasure. Well, have you heard something like that? No, well of course, there are specific variations. You
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only want to watch TV, only use the computer, and so on. Instead of doing lessons. Uh-huh, I see. So, I want to draw your attention to the fact that, in principle, life can really be continuous pleasure. But I don’t mean
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that you just sit in front of the TV all the time. If anyone has ever sat in front of the TV for a couple of days without getting up, they remember that you feel pretty bad afterwards. So, in
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reality, a person gets, can get pleasure, and it is good when they get it. Excellent. The next question is this.
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In your opinion, if a person were to take, say, a couple of grams of arsenic, would they feel pleasure by evening?
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Ah, well, if they consider a dead body to be pleasure, then it would be pleasure.
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Alright. I want to talk to you now about something called poisons. Actually, you know that poisons exist, and no sane person drinks poison in the morning. They want to live, after all, and experience pleasure. But, nevertheless, few people know that
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poisons follow a specific mechanism. And we don't even know that sometimes we are drinking poison without realizing it. Every poison works according to a certain scheme. Tell me, please, to start with, I want to clarify the word itself. A poison is a
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substance that is not naturally contained in the body. If it enters the body, it causes the body harm. Do you agree?
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Good. So, poisons. If poison enters the human body, in your opinion, will the body try to get rid of it?
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Where and how does it do this roughly? Can you imagine? Yes. Okay, I see, I see. Excellent. So, let's go, let's examine this poison mechanism. A small amount of poison gets in here. If a large amount of poison gets in, the body starts
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reacting severely. That is, the body may react in some way. If a very small amount of poison gets in, the body just becomes a little more active. Meaning the body itself becomes more active.
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Not that the person became happier or thought of something, but the body became more active. Let me explain in detail. A small amount of poison gets in here. The brain is an excellent computer. The brain calculates what has
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entered the organism. Is this present, is that present? This is extra, this is extra. Expel it, command to the heart.
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The heart starts beating faster. In order for blood to circulate faster through the body. Blood circulates faster, the body starts actively working its arms, dancing with its feet, dancing, singing songs. Eyes sparkle, nose turns red.
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Well, as an option. Well, you understand, right, what I'm talking about? I have such a naive question. Tell me, have you ever seen with your own eyes a person who drank 50 grams of vodka? I see. Have you seen
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one? No, notice, I am not asking if you drank it. So, a person drinks 50 grams of vodka. The same thing happens, but with vodka. I want you to understand this mechanism in general. It's very interesting. So, 50 grams enters here,
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the brain. Is vodka there or not? Expel it, command to the heart. The heart beats, blood runs, the organism works to drive out the vodka. It dances, it sings songs. Well, in general, it works intensely. And the person thinks: "Oh,
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50 grams is good, but 100 is better." He adds another 50. The brain is a bit sick.
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Doesn't quite get it, perhaps. Needs to speed it up more so the vodka is purged even faster. Orders the heart. The heart beats faster, blood runs through the body faster. The body is already warm, cheeks are rosy, eyes are
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sparkling, endless dancing, loud singing, pestering all the girls, and he thinks: "Oh, 100 grams is good.
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Definitely, 150 is better." And he adds more. Now look, a calculation is happening here. Since the computer is perfect, meaning the mind is a perfect computer, the mind starts doing calculations. If I keep accelerating this specific body at this speed, then
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in this amount of time, the body will burn out. But if you just rub your hands together, they start to heat up a little. Imagine it heating up, and heating up, and heating up, and heating up, and heating up, and heating up, and
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heating up. Boom. So there isn't a boom, the mind gives a different command: "Slow down." And the body starts slowly slowing down. I think you've seen a slowed-down body. The next question is simple. Just raise your hands. Who has
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seen a slowed-down body continue drinking? You have good life experience. Now the next question is very simple.
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If a slowed-down body continues to drink, what will it do? Slow down. And slow down until when?
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Until it drops. And the body just falls. And at that moment, a very interesting thing happens. This is where the body shuts down. I will explain to you why it shuts down.
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Meaning, there is further calculation going on. Simply a calculation. If I don't shut the body down, the mind thinks, if I don't shut it down, then a third stage will follow, and it will be quite sad—meaning nobody will like it,
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you understand. And in order for the body just to survive, it shuts down.
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Therefore, if you, well, it happens, you drank and drank and passed out, and woke up in the morning, and it turned out everyone else hadn't passed out, you shouldn't regret that you passed out; you simply survived. Meaning, if
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you hadn't passed out, you would have kept drinking and died. These are the stages of the effect of any poison.
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There are three of them. I will now give two examples. One common example that nobody even thinks about. A beverage like coffee. Has everyone heard of it?
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If a person drinks a cup of coffee, they become a bit more alert. Has any of you tried doing this?
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Drinking a lot of coffee to stay awake. And instead of staying awake, you get this drowsiness. You want to sleep, right? Look at that one. That was your second stage already. The body is already saying: "Enough." If you take
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it, continue, keep drinking, and finish a bucket, that is a bucket of coffee, you will die. But the trouble is, you can't really drink a bucket of coffee; it just doesn't fit in the stomach, so it's impossible. Nevertheless, it acts
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according to all these three points. One or two cups, maybe 10 cups, then a bucket. Is that clear? Yes. Good. The next example. Something that nobody drinks in the morning, after
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according to all these three points. One or two cups, maybe 10 cups, then a bucket. Is that clear? Yes. Good. The next example. Something that nobody drinks in the morning, afternoon, or evening. A poison like arsenic. Do you
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use it? No. If you drink just 0.2 grams of arsenic, you become dead. If you measure out a micro-amount of that 0.2 grams of arsenic under a microscope and drink it, there will be a first reaction. I don't know what, but some
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kind of energy might arise. If you drink a little more arsenic, you'll have some kind of relaxation, or I don't know, you'll fall asleep or feel very sick. Well, you know yourself where a person goes when they feel sick
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. But if you drink 0.2 grams of arsenic , you will die. That's understandable, right?
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Good. This is the pattern of action for any poison. Now we draw a conclusion. A question. If all poisons act according to this pattern, I have a question for you. So, what are drugs and alcohol?
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They are simply poisons. They are just poisons. Do you understand? Like saying , I want to have a drink of poison this evening. It's just poison, in reality.
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And actually, people consume a lot of various things that shouldn't be consumed. And I want to ask you, in your opinion, do people make mistakes sometimes?
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You know, even the principal of your school makes mistakes sometimes, I'm sure, because he is a person, and I hope every person makes mistakes. But the most interesting thing is that you have an opportunity; by the way, would
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you like to make mistakes more often or less often? Less often. Less often. And any person can be in a state where they make fewer mistakes. There are only two reasons for a person to make mistakes, make wrong decisions, have
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problems, get sick, and so on. Two things. The first thing: a person might not know something. Can a person not know something?
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Like, they look at the wall, see a square object with two holes, for the first time in their life. And think, what could this mean? Why don't I check the depth of these holes with some wire ? And that's it, it turned out to be a
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power outlet and a pile of ashes. Well, the person didn't know. But in reality, people acquire knowledge and somehow survive, right? That is one path. The second path is to be in a state where you make as few mistakes as possible.
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It turns out there are states in which a person makes mistakes, and there are states in which a person makes fewer mistakes or makes none at all, in accordance with their knowledge. You know, a person can have two, three, or
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ten university degrees, can read a mountain of books, sit in a library all the time, and yet they go out on the street, a brick falls on their head, they break a leg, or something else happens. You know, people say, "He's
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just unlucky." They say the person just doesn't have any luck. There is no such thing as "not having any luck." Everyone sitting here and everyone walking out there on the street, absolutely every person on this planet is, inside, white, fluffy, very good,
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very capable, super-intelligent— everyone, absolutely. But we are all in different states. And I want to say a few words about these states now. Well, actually, it won't be a few words, it will take a while, about 15 minutes.
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I'm drawing something here called a scale. Is the word "scale" clear to everyone? Well, there is a scale, for example, one example of a scale is a thermometer measuring temperature, or a barometer measuring pressure. Do you know what this scale of ours is going
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to measure? It will measure mood. This scale is called the Scale of Emotional Tones. That is the proper name for it.
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The word "scale" is clear, the word " emotions" is clear, mood. Tone is the level of these moods.
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Here it will be minus, bad. Here it will be plus, good. And here is a small part on the scale, which you could call —if you look in a dictionary—a person who is simply happy in this state. If you use a simple, commonly
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understood word, it’s like a "high." In this state, there is a lot of "high.
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" I am telling you now how a person should feel to experience that high without drugs or alcohol. Just from morning to evening, you wake up and say : "God, today's first lecture—do you have lectures or classes?" Lectures.
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Today's first lecture is physics. Hooray! Yes, I will do this. I will go to physics right now and get my 12 points.
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Even if I don't get 12 points, I will fix it. So, in this state, a person solves things quickly and doesn't get bogged down by problems, right? Alright , let's start from the bottom. Those who have heard the lecture before, stay
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as silent as fish. Just keep your mouth shut and stay silent. Those who haven't heard it, take a guess. Zero on this scale. Meaning it doesn't get any worse than this. Remember, this is mood. Zero on the mood scale. What could that be?
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No, I don't mean studying a difficult subject. Apathy? Worse than apathy. Death. Death. Ooh, have you heard the lecture?
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Yes, she couldn't hold back. So, the tone is called death. I will tell you that it really happens that people just don't guess this lower level, because no one thinks about death at all. That is good . Why think about it? It's not around
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here anyway. So, 0.05. The tone is called apathy. Translated into Russian, apathy means complete, absolute indifference to everything. That is, a person doesn't eat, doesn't sleep, doesn't communicate, well, he can't do anything at all, you see? Absolutely, but there is absolutely no reaction.
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And there's this drool. Can you communicate with such a person? Look, a person can fall into apathy for various reasons. One of the reasons for apathy, well, let's say, some misfortune happened right before your eyes, right? You wouldn't be jumping
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and hopping around, would you? You can fall into a state of shock, bam , you stop moving. Could that happen?
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The second case. Well, we sometimes observe the second case in the evening, walking through the city, near kiosks lie these cases. They are in apathy.
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There, he got drunk, fell into apathy, he is lying there, you see, add 50 grams more to him, and he is already dead. But he can't add any, he is in no condition to swallow. So that is the
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tone of apathy. Question. Tell me, please, does a person in apathy assess the situation well, make quick decisions, right? He doesn't see anything at all, because this is just before death.
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Let's go higher. 0.5. We all find ourselves in this tone. And you have all been in it since childhood, literally from birth, it's a very bad state. I won't say anything at all to them. Thank you. Normal people. A
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person is crying, and you are laughing. Normal. Normal. The tone is called grief. A person falls into the tone of grief for one single reason. One.
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Uh, there are many examples one could give. I accept your example. But the reason for falling into grief is the only one: when a person suffers the loss of something important to them.
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Well, someone didn't get their beer, someone didn't have enough for a bottle of vodka. It happens. Someone lost their cell phone, someone quarreled with a friend. This is a loss. When you have a loss, you have the tone of grief
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. Is that clear to everyone? Do you agree with that? So, now I have a little question. Tell me, if a person is in grief, how are they with reaction speed and correct decision-making?
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A drag. A drag. Good. Now it is very important for a minute that everything will be okay. Everything will be okay.
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Here, you know, thank you for your question. Actually, the person asked how to recover. And I will tell you, uh , everything depends on your chronic tone. There is a concept of an instantaneous tone, and there is a
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concept of a chronic tone. Instantaneous is when you cried and came back to your senses, if you are higher in tone. Chronic tone, if you have a chronic tone of grief, well, sorry, it is hard to recover there.
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That is, in principle, if you are talking to a person who has a chronic tone of grief, and you ask them a simple question: "How are you?" They will answer you: "How am I?" You know, we haven't had hot water in Alekseevka
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for a week. It's just unreal too. Oh, God, you understand, everything turns into a problem. Everything. You can see a person who is in the tone of grief, yes , and ask them: "H, well, summer has come. It's good, yes, summer has come.
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Summer has come, that's cool." They: " Oh, God, that means flies. Or that winter has come. Oh, Lord, that means frost. My boots have holes in them." The most interesting thing is that a person in a low tone has a small
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peculiarity, if one can call it a peculiarity. A person in the tone of grief has many chronic illnesses. And they will tell you about it. They are sick. It does not happen that a person got sick, and then dropped in tone. It
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happens that a person dropped in tone and got sick. If you are in a high chronic tone, that is, you are in a constantly good state, if you have been offended or you have lost something, you don't cry for a whole day, right?
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Well, you get a little upset, cry, and run on. If you are in that state, it will take a very long time. Let's go higher. Yes, we've dealt with the mistakes, right? There will be a lot of mistakes there too. Number one. A very
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interesting tone. I will tell you this, it is fun to observe it, but it is not fun to be in it. The tone is called fear. In the tone of fear, a person does two main things. Very interesting
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things. Two main ones. So, let's do this. I, uh, what will happen to you here if you skip a couple of lessons?
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Nothing, they say, will happen. Did you notice? Yes. I will tell you later who said that.
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Okay. I have this question. Well, are there people sitting here who actually know what skipping class is, no? Uh-huh . Uh, when you skipped there for the first time, okay, let's not take the first time. Let's skip. You are in the
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ninth grade, in the tenth, right? And you are skipping for the first time at that moment. Well, such an impossible scenario. Well, don't, don't laugh, please. I just need to do one joke there. Okay. You are skipping. You
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skipped a whole day. A whole day. If you come to your educational institution the next day, would you want to see the principal, the deputy principal, and your homeroom teacher right there and talk to them?
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Alright. I’m going to act out this exact scene right now. A person skipped school, say some guy skipped the whole day. There. And he doesn’t want to run into the principal. So, naturally, after skipping, he opens the door. Well
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, he was having a good time while he was out, right? Now he’s come to school, opens the door, and right in front of him is a line. You understand, a line: the principal, the homeroom teacher, the teacher for every class he
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skipped, and at the end of the line are his parents, who arrived at school before him to look into his honest eyes . And their faces are very, very serious. So, where were you? Where were you? Eleventh grade, graduation year.
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How long are you going to keep skipping ? If a person falls into the tone of fear, they do two specific things. If they’ve fallen into the tone of fear, "Where were you?""Well, at the military enlistment office.""There are always
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these lines there, no one is around, you can't understand anything.""When you go to that enlistment office, I mean, you sent me there yourselves." Tell me, is he looking them in the eyes at that moment?
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No. No. The first reaction in the tone of fear: leave the place as quickly as possible.
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Where were you? Oh, God. Since he can't run away, his eyes run away instead.
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Where were you? And then comes a series of stories that can be called lying. Lying, exactly, well done. The person is just lying. Look, two things: the tone of fear. First, the desire to run away. And second, the person cannot
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tell the truth. They definitely lie. So , if you are lying and you have a desire to run away, I congratulate you.
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You are here—you know, people say, "I lie well, look how well I lied." When you were lying, you were specifically in that tone. So that is not exactly a heroic feat. The people over there don't lie at all. But there are some
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people who, when listening to this lecture, it’s quite interesting. But you don't have any like that, honestly speaking. I don't see any faces like that. Well, sometimes they appear, I can read the thoughts right on their faces. You know, they sit there
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listening to this. "So, what is she talking about here?""When I lie, I usually look people in the eyes, I enjoy it.""I spent a long time coming up with how to lie." You understand, this tone is actually almost right next to the tone
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of fear. I am not adhering to the intervals here. Uh, tone 1.1 is higher.
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The tone name consists of two words: covert hostility. Is the word "hostility" clear to everyone?
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Yes. I don't like you. I hate it. That is overt hostility. But if I don't like someone and I can't stand them, but I don't want them to notice, I will use covert hostility. " Why are your shoes looking a bit worn?"
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"Worn out.""Time to buy some new ones." You see, the truth is I just don't like him. I want to be nasty to him, but I don't want him to do anything back to me. So, there are two versions of covert
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hostility. One for girls, one for boys. Girls, please forgive me if anyone doesn't like this. Boys, it's important for you to know this. Covert hostility.
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So, a person in covert hostility of any gender thinks they are better than everyone else and everyone else is an idiot. And it shows on their face. What does a "better than everyone" girl look like? Everyone is a fool. Everyone is
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such a fool, and then some other girl walks by, well , clearly a fool too. She looks at her and says, "Listen, you bought such a dress, it’s amazing, at a second-hand shop.""I dropped by a second-hand shop recently, there was such a pile there,
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everything was garbage, probably." And the other person's mood might get ruined, and if her mood gets ruined, that's it. Wow, you know, super. I did something nasty. I can be nasty.
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Excellent. Boys, a special warning for you. If you encounter girls like this, they are sometimes liked, well, you know, boys sometimes like these girls.
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You have to keep in mind that if such a girl is in covert hostility and she says, "I love you, honey." Remember, there might be a queue. And she has already told everyone she loves them, and there are many of them. That is the
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characteristic of the covert hostility tone. Once again, I want to draw your attention to this point. Even this girl or this boy who is in covert hostility is a good, wonderful person inside, and they wouldn't intend to lie if they
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weren't in this tone. If you raise this person higher in tone, they will be normal. If they are in covert hostility , they cannot react in any other way.
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They only act that way. By the way, this is the criminal's tone. All criminals are in this tone. Can you imagine a person who says, "Listen, can I steal your wallet?" Looking you honestly in the eyes.
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In reality, that doesn't happen. He walks up and says, "Oh, hey buddy, where did you get a phone like that?" He starts talking, and all the while he is rummaging through your purse or pocket. That is covert hostility. The
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criminal's tone. Let's move higher than that. Oh, yes, by the way, I forgot to ask you a question. In the tone of fear and in the tone of covert hostility, in these two tones. Does a person easily and correctly assess the surrounding
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situation? Correct. No, of course, of course, incorrectly. Reaction in the tone of fear. Everything is dangerous. I need to run.
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Reaction in the tone of covert hostility. Everyone must be harmed, and then maybe I will survive. Let's go higher. The tone is called. So, what is that noise? I don't understand what that noise is. This group here, which
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is listening for the second time, they are already waiting for me to snap at them. They are just sitting there on purpose, annoying me and annoying me constantly.
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Thank you, comrades, for doing that. Who would I have yelled at then? They knew. You know, I got to this point and I thought: "God, at whom, at whom, at whom?" Silence, order, no one to yell at, guys. The tone is called "anger."
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Have you ever observed such behavior? And what is the joy for? Good. Have you yourself been in such a state?
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Has anyone ever punched someone in the face? That's there. So, now tell me, please, have you ever tried to communicate?
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Communicate with a person in a tone of anger? You just see, he is walking right there like that, and you approach him, ask: "Could you tell me, what the hell..." He doesn't even hear the question. He is all in a state of
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tension. The first one who approaches will get it. Communication is impossible. Well, did you notice that this tone is a little more active? Yes.
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Yes. Well, there is more life. True, life flows in the wrong direction. So these are the 4 tones. 1 2 3 4. If a person has these tones chronic, that is, he lives in them, he, unfortunately, has chronic diseases, all of them—stomach
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, kidneys, liver—it all hurts. That's where the person is no longer sick with anything.
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So, let's move on. 2.0. The tone is called antagonism. Not alcoholism, but antagonism. The word itself is translated in the dictionary as irreconcilable contradiction. No. Shall we go for a walk? No. It is cold and damp out there. Let's wait for summer.
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Listen, let's watch some TV. What TV? That TV of yours, nothing to see there.
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Listen, honey, help mom with the dishes ...Mom, have you gone crazy? I have an exam tomorrow. I have homework tomorrow . When am I going to wash the dishes?
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Yes, yes, exactly. That was it. Well, that's normal. This is antagonism, at least it's not covert hostility. Maybe you can wash them yourself? So, antagonism, the tone of disagreement. Everyone understood this, right?
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Good, let's go higher. Actually, if a person disagrees all the time, if this is a chronic tone, if they are always disagreeing, they cannot make the right decision. I want to draw your attention to the fact that a person can be in any of these tones.
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It would be abnormal if they were being hit on the head. That is not normal.
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I mean that you cannot be in these tones chronically. If you are there chronically, you do not see the situation. So, you are going to name this tone for me now. It is desirable that those who have already listened do
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not name it. So, in this tone, the one I am about to draw, a person doesn't— well, I'm not including the extremes, of course—they don't sprawl out, they don't lie down, they don't cry, they don't run around, they aren't afraid,
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they don't do nasty things, they don't yell at anyone, they don't punch anyone , they don't argue with anyone; they don't do anything at all in this tone.
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No, they are just, you know, cold, cold. Listen, let's go watch TV. Let's go. Well, that requires getting up.
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Going. Indifferent laziness, you are naming it correctly. Well, there is a tone called boredom, right? It is defined as indifferent laziness. The tone is called boredom. And this is the middle of the scale. Everything below boredom, if you noticed, is closer to
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what? To death. To death. This part of the scale is called non-survival. Meaning, in this part of the scale you cannot achieve success, you cannot have health, you cannot make right decisions, you cannot have normal friends, you cannot have a normal life.
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Is that clear? This scale was developed in 1954 by the American scientist Ron Hubbard. He simply developed it literally with an instrument in his hands. Everything is measured and shown on these very instruments, and it truly exists. I think that we will examine it
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here now, if you agree. If you don't agree, we won't examine it. We will examine something so that it is clear where survival is and where it is not.
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A question like sex on the tone scale. If you don't mind, don't mind? Do you mind?
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No. Good. I think that by being so quiet, you don't mind. So, to make everything perfectly clear, because this is an important issue in a person's life, especially for older students. You generally need to know the truth about
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this. Good. If you are waiting for me to show something here, don't wait. I will be asking questions. Good. So, the first question is this. I will give you a pattern of action, so to speak, and you will give me the tone. I don't
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know what that young man was thinking. I'm asking a simple human question. What kind of tone is it, if before having any kind of sex, a person first kicks someone hard in the head? What tone is he in?
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Excellent. Note that none of you—and people often tell me this—none of you said: "Covert hostility." Yeah, "covert ," my foot—kicking someone in the head. So, he is specifically in anger.
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Well, the person he is trying to have sexual relations with is apparently somewhere over there, having a really bad time, they figured it out. Yes. Good. I don't know if you'll answer my next question or not.
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I just have no idea. Very rarely does anyone answer this question. I don't know why, but I'll ask it. If you don't answer, I will. Uh, what do you think sex is like, examples of sex, if a person is in covert hostility? Rape.
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Oh, well, rape involves the use of force. That’s overt. Not exactly. Yes. Oh, please. He gave a specific example.
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I thank you, Anya. Well, there are just brave people. Why did I come to work for you? Because I know that here, one can answer a question honestly.
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So, I will summarize his answer in case anyone didn't hear it. I would say, in general, any perversions. Basically any , not necessarily just that specific one. So, all perversions belong to covert hostility. Oh, where am I going?
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Here. Covert hostility. First. Second: homosexuality. Third: prostitution. I don't know if I'll upset or please you.
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Promiscuous sex is covert hostility. Because just imagine, today with this one, tomorrow with that one—that fool . And then about him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's all right here. So, this is all that confusing stuff that is covert
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hostility. If we take antagonism, a fairly high tone, right? Antagonism, you understand? You want to, I don't want to, and I don't want to. Maybe a second option. You want it this way? No , I don't want it that way. And I don't
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want it that way. And I said so. And already someone is in anger, while someone else, notice, is already in grief. Maybe we shouldn't. If anyone here found some kind of survival, I congratulate you. That’s a state close to you. If not, let’s move up
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to boredom. Well, that’s the middle, right. What kind of sex can we have in boredom? Yes, let me tell you the mindset of someone who—well, let's not call it love, but just having sex, right? You see the difference, right?
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Here they are having sex, but love is over there. So, if a person is having sex in the tone of boredom, they do it because it's needed for health three times a week. Cool, right? And during that time, they might be munching on an
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apple, or I don't know, smoking a cigarette for their health. An apple is more fun. More fun, right? Oh, good. Right, we’ll leave it alone.
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We’ll leave this lower part of the scale alone because it’s clear to all of you now that there’s no survival here. Yes, in apathy.
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Well, of course, in apathy, we won't be discussing sex, you understand? We won't. There, a person can't even see who it is. Is it a woman, a man, a cat, or a dog? It’s unclear. We are moving higher. We’ve reached the first tone
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above boredom. It’s the first one above. It’s not very cool or very fun yet, but it’s significantly better than boredom. The tone is called conservatism. And in this tone, I understand the word "canned" probably sparks some unhealthy interest in you.
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Actually, it’s a good example to explain the word conservatism. Canned goods are made so that the product doesn't spoil. The tone of conservatism . I don’t want to change anything.
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That's it. A person in conservatism, you understand? Uh, hello guys, please sit up straight. I am now going to tell you how harmful it is to take drugs.
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The smiles on your faces are a bit inappropriate because the topic is very serious; people are dying. Uh, and in about 15 minutes, perhaps the decent people will have already...The indecent ones will leave. There. And in the tone
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of conservatism, I’m not saying it’s a bad tone; I’m saying there are things that shouldn't be done in conservatism. There are things that shouldn't be done in any other tone.
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Meaning, if you are absolutely sure that you are the best specialist in the world, the absolute coolest, and it's true—you even have a paper saying you're the best—and you walk in with that paper and conviction to someone who doesn't know about it, while you
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are way up there in the "Cheerful Tone" school, and you come to the best institution to apply for a job. Waving your resume, your bag around. You say: "I'm already..." and everyone will tell you: "Goodbye." So, if you come to an
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institution to apply for a job, you dress neatly and say: "Hello, I have this and that, and I can do this." You see, right? I mean, there are places where you need to be conservative, but in life, it's better not to be, because
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life, you know, has already raced ahead , and you're still sitting there being conservative, loving songs from 40 years ago like "By the Birch". You don't know it, I keep remembering it. Ah, Yuri Antonov . You probably know Yuri Antonov, I
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don't know. Well, we see the posters, yes, once a year. Well, you get it, right? We won't devalue that. I like it too, but there are other songs now, everything else has moved on. Let's go higher. 3.3. The tone is called Strong
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Interest. And we're going to be very interested now, because I'm going to ask a question. I'm literally setting a trap right now. So, strong interest.
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The example is absolutely, well, simple , because everyone's interests are different, but I think it's universal that there are good films that are interesting to watch. Yes.
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Do you like good films? Excellent. A person comes home to watch a good film.
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But meanwhile, mom comes home in the tone of grief. And when mom comes home, she's in grief, even if she's a Japanese or American mom, she usually says the same words, because in a low tone, people always say the same thing.
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And in the tone of grief, mom says: "My son, you're so thin and pale, I've heated up lunch for you for the fifth time, come and eat.""Ma, wait, mom, just sit here, I'll eat right here." You already brought it? And you can't
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tear yourself away from the screen. That is the tone of strong interest. Maybe you're sitting behind this screen . I'm not saying it's great, but at least it's the tone of strong interest.
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Maybe, I really hope, there are people among you who read books with the same interest.
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So, two more words about strong interest. I've checked the box, see, I always forget. In strong interest, a person doesn't even catch a sniffle.
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That just doesn't happen. Here, a person doesn't get sick at all. No chronic, not even common colds occur.
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That's one. And secondly, what a person does in strong interest, we will find out together now. We will have a collaborative effort now. I'm going to give you a tricky example, and you're going to guess the tone. Alright? So,
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our situation is this. A deputy decided to give a gift to one of the classes in your lyceum, and they donated super-duper beautiful wooden desks, office-style furniture for every student, light-colored.
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Back to the classroom. And the whole class has these beautiful desks. And that morning, a boy walks into this classroom who had received a modest gift from his parents the night before.
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He received a black permanent marker. He walks into this classroom and sees, "Oh my God, such beautiful light-colored desks." And he sits at the back desk and draws on that desk for the entire lesson. Now we have to
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guess the tone the boy is in while he spends the whole lesson drawing at the back desk. Very inter- Our opinions are divided, which I am very happy about. I won't say that you are wrong. I will ask you two more
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leading questions. At the end of his drawing, the bell already rings. Can he raise his hand and say, "Marya Ivanovna , look how I've worked." No, he won't say that. Good. The second option is even worse. Marya Ivanovna reaches the
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back desk by the end of the lesson. Oh, my God, the desks are new. Who ruined this masterpiece? It was him.
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In what tone does a person consciously damage property? Covert. Covert hostility. Guys, let me tell you , those who didn't guess it, honestly, don't be upset. Adults at my lectures don't guess this either, because when people are, you know, he's getting a
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kick out of it, he's sitting there, captivated, drawing, just totally absorbed, as they say. In reality, he knows he is ruining the new desks. When I gave this lecture at a juvenile detention center, a young boy came up
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to me after the lecture and said, "I know when I was in high interest." I said, "When?""When we were robbing a kiosk?" And I believe it, imagine, it's night, he's walking, bushes, cops in the bushes.
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Robbing. What a game. Amazing. I asked him two questions. One question was this. I said, "Tell me, please, when you were robbing the kiosk?""You were robbing it.""At that moment when you were robbing it, did you assume that the person who owns this kiosk would
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wake up in the morning, see it, and be a little upset?""Ah, yes, yes, I knew that." Good. "Did you want the police to catch you?""No, I didn't.""Why are you sitting here?""For the kiosk." Is prison really the result of working in
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a state of high interest? A person might think they are in a state of high interest. In reality, they are in a state of covert hostility. If they are doing something forbidden, they are in covert hostility. Have you seen the
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faces of people who look where they shouldn't? Through a crack. Yes. By the way, I forgot to give an example for the boys. I gave an example of covert hostility for the girls, but I didn't for the boys. It is more modest. For
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boys, the strike will be further away. So, it's a boy with covert hostility. Let’s say I’m a guy, yeah, and I can’t stand this other guy. The jerk, I want to kill him. But I don’t want to do it openly because I don’t want
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a black eye. So, well, he’s kind of afraid of him, right? He’s afraid of him, it’s unpleasant to be afraid, and he thinks: "Well, just do something , do at least something to him." So he’s already in covert hostility. And
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he figures out what to do. He puts a tack on his seat and sits there waiting . So, the look on his face while he waits will look like this. He sits on that tack and yells: "Ouch, ouch, ouch!
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" And this one at the back desk, just like that, but quietly. There you go, that’s covert hostility for you. Is the person happy? Yes.
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Well, what is he happy about? Someone else’s misfortune. Do you understand the difference? Great. Let’s move higher. Look, we’ve already hit joy. Did you notice ?
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The 3.5 tone is called cheerfulness. Woo-hoo. Is this state familiar? To avoid any questions, I’ll give you a small example. Two girls are walking.
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It’s winter, the sidewalks are slippery. One of the girls is wearing stilettos. They are walking, talking, and one girl goes like this, and the other one just stands there.
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It’s clear, right, that this isn’t it? This is back here again. But if they are both laughing, then, of course, it’s cheerfulness. But if one is crying and the other is laughing, that’s a bit different. Okay, let’s move higher.
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The 4.0 tone is called enthusiasm. I’m shortening the labels so they fit . With enthusiasm, everything is simple . It’s, uh, like the highest peak of emotions. Such a cool state. We are going to raise our hands now. I’ll
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ask you a question, and you raise your hands. Here is the question: has anyone here ever won in any team sports competitions?
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Great. Remember how you felt when you won. Great. So, to outrun the other team.
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So, good. Another question. Remember, has anyone here ever solved a personal problem or a difficult task on your own —you see the difference, solved it yourself, right? on your own, and sat there thinking: "Damn, I did it." Are
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there such people, at least once in their life? Great. For the rest, for everyone who didn’t raise their hands in that version. An even simpler question. Who has received good gifts for their birthday, for New Year’s, dreamt about them, and got them? Are there
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people? Why so few? You want too much, right? Alright. For everyone, it’s a real state when you’re a winner and you’re happy.
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Real. Now comes a difficult question. It sounds very simple, but it is complex. Sometimes there are very strange answers. I hope I won't get any strange answers here. Although, you never know. Let's feel this "wow" right here. Let's feel it. Wow. Felt it.
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Felt it right now. Good. Now let's answer the question. Tell me, in this "wow,""wow, it's mine, it was gifted to me." Ah, super. In this state, can a person have a thought at that very moment: I need to start
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taking drugs. Who said that? Yes, what did you mean by "wetting" it? What did you mean? Speak up.
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Just joking. Needle-d it. No, sometimes, I once had a lecture, I had girls sitting...well, girls and boys in the sixth or seventh grade.
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Well, in the suburbs I was giving a lecture, and looking at me with completely naive eyes, a girl said: " How do you 'wet' it?" I said: " Excellent, I will give an example now, in case anyone had that thought.""Well,
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it was mentioned here, yes, somewhere, I heard it." I'll give you an example about "wetting" it. Imagine a pile of sand. Imagined the sand. On this pile of sand sits a two-year-old child building sandcastles. They aren't turning out for him. When sandcastles
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don't turn out, children get upset. Have you seen upset children? And then mom reveals the secret of sandcastles.
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She says: "The sand needs to be damp, you need to pack it well, then place the bucket, tap it with a shovel, and then lift the bucket." And, aha. He sits down, does all of this, lifts the bucket, and the sandcastle doesn't
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crumble. Wow! Wet it. Can you even imagine what that is? That a two-year-old child could think about needing to "wet" it? What will the child do next after the sandcastle succeeds?
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He will make another sandcastle, and next time he will put another one on top of this one. In other words, he will set some new goals for himself.
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Right? That is the action of a person in enthusiasm. If your first thought is to "wet" it, you are not in enthusiasm.
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You are who knows where. Let's move on. Fun. You are watching a comedy film, dying of laughter with friends, your abs already hurt from laughing. At that moment, can the thought appear: I need to start taking drugs. No, let's go
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lower. Strong interest. You are fascinated by something, a book, a film , I don't know what. Does that thought arise at that moment?
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No. No, of course, you are fascinated. What other thought is there? Conservatism. You aren't changing anything.
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Everything will be like yesterday. Would a person start here, of course. Good. Boredom. A person has nothing to do. I'm just sitting here with absolutely nothing to do.
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Excellent. Now we're going to have a thriller about Vasya and Petya. Ready? Good. Young Vasya—let me just erase a bit here.
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Young Vasya, not yours. Ours. I don't mean if you have a Vasya here. There's Tony Bored sitting, he's sitting at home, watching two flies crawl on the window.
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Well, you know, he's very bored, and he doesn't know what to do. And then little Petya calls him on the phone and says in a very mysterious voice: " Vaska, I've got this cool thing, super, you only have a little bit left to go,
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just a little, for free. A ton of fun." Vasya has nothing to do, and here he’s offered something, and for free.
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You know what a good phrase that is: for free. Where? And Vaska's tone lifts a little. What tone does he lift to?
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Interest. Into interest. Well done. He rises into interest. He says: "What are they giving me? Where? What? Run quickly, or you’ll be late." He runs to Petya, and Petya offers him something to take, some kind of drug. Let's take, for
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example, the most common one. It's considered not a drug. Ganja. Does everyone know the word?
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Okay, good. For those who don't, I'll provide a synonym, because in some eyes I don't see understanding. Uh, well, actually, nowadays we have t-shirts, our gray market industry is working very well. You know that green plant?
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We put it on caps. Hemp. Yes, it's called hemp, right? So, the word "joint" is probably the most common, because depending on the territory, it’s ganja, herb, weed, pot, and 25 others, it changes. But "joint" is understood everywhere, even in the "
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coven" they talk about it. Yes. Everyone knows the word "joint" has three meanings. Yes.
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Yes. Cross-eyed. Well, a door jamb. Cross-eyed. A door jamb. First meaning. Second, a school of fish in the ocean. And the third meaning of joint. If we give a definition to this word, it's a hand-rolled cannabis cigarette.
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Understand? Yes. There, just so everyone understands which "joint" we're talking about. He offers him a joint. No, I grabbed the chalk too early. He offers him a joint. Our Vasya is 12. He looks at Petya. He’s heard since kindergarten that drugs are
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dangerous. Throw that filth away. He looks at Petya and says: "Are you crazy ? It's dangerous. They told me at school that you shouldn't take it." That's fine. I've been taking it for 2 years and everything is fine. Who do
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you believe? Mom. When did mom ever say anything useful, she just says: "Don't, don't, don't." Do you believe? Yes.
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And his face changes. He says: "Does Petka see that it's changing? He's already deep in thought." And Petka continues his work. Come on, why, why, why are you twitching? Go ahead, try it , take it. Listen, I'll probably come
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back tomorrow. I'll think about it a bit, I'll come back tomorrow. Where to? Where to? Tomorrow, if he starts to slowly leave, our boy Vasya, if he doesn't continue, he was in antagonism, remember, he said: "No, I won't, are
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you crazy?" But he keeps pressuring him , he drops lower, he's already in doubt , you know, that kind of state, and he keeps pressing him. If he doesn't tell him right away: "Get lost, that's it," he will leave. I'm telling you, Petya
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will definitely leave. If you tell him clearly so that he understands, well, we'll practice, maybe later after the lecture. There. There. But he doesn't tell him, he's deep in thought. And Petya starts to continue the pressure on him. And he looks at him and says: "
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I, I didn't understand." No, listen, I didn't understand. You're still a loser . And why are you lowering your eyes? I didn't understand, why are you...look me in the eyes. Are you going to try it or not? Or are you afraid of your mom?
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No, answer me quickly. He's silent. What's the matter? Ah, not chalk. You tell me quickly. Hurry up now, because I'm here now, but tomorrow I might not be. Hurry up, decide today.
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Phew. Thanks. Give me your hand. It was hard for him. I can go up to anyone and say, "What are you staring at?" Unpleasant, right? Easily. That's the tone. If you master the tone scale, you can do anything, but it's not a very
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good method, right? So, in what tone is the boy Petya actually in, the one offering drugs? What is his chronic tone?
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Where, guys? He's a criminal. Did you forget, selling drugs? That's a crime. He is in covert hostility. Do you know when he will sell to you? That is, when you will buy or take it, when he manages to
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lower you down the scale, here you won't buy and here you won't buy. But when you are right here, he will sell to you. Because there is a little secret in this scale. If a person is higher on the tone scale than the one
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they are talking to, they can control them and can raise them up the scale.
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Do you understand? In apathy. So, if a person is right here, they can easily reach an agreement with these people. If a person is way down here, they can only communicate with the dead . Right. So, Vasia decided to try drugs
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, and he took them. A simple question, a simple question. He tried this drug for the first time. Or maybe the second , I don’t know. Let’s say. The first. Here we have a wonderful scenario. He tries the drug. Where does
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he go on the scale? Up or down? Of course, up. Remember, a small amount . The body starts twitching frantically to get it out. And he rises into enthusiasm. Like, wow. He comes to a disco. Thinking, wow. Girls, do you
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like boys who are like this at a disco? No. Listen, he doesn't like it either, let me tell you. The only way not to be like that, is simply not to be like that. It looks ridiculous, but it's true. If you don't
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know how to dance, well, practice at home in front of the mirror. With your mom, why not?
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That's fine. I, for one, can outdance anyone. So, we have a boy, Vasia, who acts like this at the disco. He’s in boredom, he can’t practice anything.
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From boredom, where would he go? He doesn’t go anywhere at all. Then he took the drug and showed up like, "Wow.
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" And the girls are like, "Wow, man, how cool." Girls, I’m letting you in on a secret so everyone knows what the trick is. Boy Vasia stayed exactly where he was in boredom. He didn’t actually leave that state at all. He is
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still in boredom right now. He’s just got a battery in him. Girls. If you like real, living boys, that’s normal. If you like objects, listen, buy yourselves some objects and use them, for heaven's sake. And what did you think I meant? What?
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Personally, for example, I was referring to the Energizer bunny. What about you? Well done.
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No, in reality, it’s true. Girls, did you get that? Boys, do you want to be objects or do you want to be alive? So, boy Vasia, imagine if the charge runs out at the wrong time.
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So, he is in enthusiasm. As I understand it , that doesn't last forever, right? It means it ends at some point, two or three hours and that’s it, the charge is gone. Where will he end up? On the
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scale, boredom. Boredom again. Do you see? That is the lousiest part. If anyone thinks this is cool, that’s the lousiest part, because if he was up here on drugs and woke up somewhere down here, I don’t know, the second time he repeats the
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attempt. And so he climbed up there, only to sink into boredom. The first thought again. Listen, Petka was right. No harm , no real pleasure from the sea. And it's free too. Petka, give me some. And what will Petka say?
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Go on, pay up, my dear. And now he’s paying money. And he thinks: "Well, my parents give me lunch money, maybe 2 hryvnias a day, right? I’ll save it, collect it, and once a month I’ll have enough to go and enjoy myself to
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the fullest like a real person." Hooray ! I found a way. I’m going to disappoint you a little. When a person thinks they’ve found a way—if they eat something, drink, smoke, it doesn’t matter what, essentially swallowing a magic pill—they think
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that will make them happy. At that moment, they are thinking to themselves : "I'm an idiot, I have no ability to be happy on my own, and I never will." That’s it. And that question is closed. Now I have a magic wand. He
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goes, buys it, takes it, his enthusiasm rises, and he says: "Oh, great, everything is right. It’s turning out just as I thought." But in reality, he falls a little lower the next time. And in fact, these are already his chronic
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tones. It happens very quickly. And one of the reasons—there are a million you could name—is this most obvious one. Uh, I suppose when Vasya smoked a joint for the first time, he didn't run straight home to Mom to share his joy.
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"Mom, I started taking drugs." No, he didn't do that. Right. Evidently, he started hiding it, and I think he starts lying. Exactly.
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Wait, he did share with his mom. True. Mom talks about me. Well, that’s a rare case. Most often, if he says that, he’ll likely get in trouble, which is also wrong. Well, at the very least, he thinks he will. So,
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he starts hiding and lying. What is a person’s tone when they hide and lie?
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Fear. Now look at what his life is like . He had a life in boredom. Well, one could, actually, rise up and go play some soccer, at the very least. Now his life is not in boredom. Now his life is
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back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Damn, I'm just sick of everything. Here is your antagonism. He is no longer in boredom; he is in antagonism. I'm so fed up, it's just impossible. Vasya, did you do
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your homework? No, I didn't. Got it? Vasya, go take out the trash. Can't be bothered with homework. Got it? Vasya, what's your problem? It's you who's the problem, Mom. Got it? He slowly starts turning into such a creep. His fingers
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start doing this. And he's like that with everyone. Girls, imagine you have a boyfriend like that. No, he's good inside, actually wonderful. But imagine him talking to you. What, you put on a pot, and it's not working for you? He
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argues, he dislikes everything, everyone annoys him. And, of course, he goes to Petya. Petya, imagine, what are you worrying about? Let's boost our health. They go and boost their health.
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Bam, fun time. Is this something you are familiar with? Yes. Smoked a joint, staring at a piece of chalk, laughing for 3 hours. It's called a fit of the giggles. Yes. He laughs once, twice, ten times, twenty times. I don't know
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how many times he'll laugh, however much his health allows it. There. But his tone is unchanging, unchanging.
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Each time it gets lower and lower. And now the boy Vasya is in a rage. You know, everything annoys him. He is now actively annoyed by absolutely everything. Yesterday, like a normal guy, I came home at 3:00 AM. My mother
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tells me: "Late." I didn't come home at 5:00, I swear. I came at 3:00. She tells me: "I didn't sleep." Did I bother you? I wasn't even there. She tells me, she didn't sleep. Came to chemistry yesterday. No, listen, listen
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to what she says to me: "Hand over the notebook." Where would a tenth-grader get notebooks from?
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It really nerves him. Girls, remember what sex is like for someone in a rage.
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Save yourself. No, he is a good guy himself. It's just his tone, he can't help it. Lie down, stay silent. That's it. Well, now I have a naive question, a small naive question. Tell me please, things have only gotten worse for him.
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I mean, what does he actually feel? Everything around has become worse. Everyone has become worse. I have remained the same. Well, you understand that's not true. Tell me, please, is he taking it once a month now, like he
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planned, or more often? Why would he take such a useful thing less often? He can't take it less often , of course he'll take it more.
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Good. So, our boy Vasya just starts taking it more often. And to take it more often, you need more of what?
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Mon- money. Look, he takes it more often, and now a strong interest arises. But he likes it too, because it's not " there." He rises to a certain tone and feels somehow better than when in anger . You understand? He smokes a joint.
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And now he might have this kind of look , you see, he might have. Someone recognized it, right? Yeah. He's studying molecular structure. Well, you know, he’s zoned out on some "deep" thought, just staring off. Got him.
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Well, honey, yeah, we can go on. He might just be drawing a line in one spot in his notebook. Absolutely total focus.
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You walk up and ask: "Vasya, what are you doing?" You don't understand. Leave me alone.
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Like, "Go away, lady, I'm in sorrow." There’s already a hole there, but he’s still drawing. And you look, it’s a very complex geometric figure.
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For 3 hours straight. Yes, interesting. You look at him and think he’s not okay, and he looks at you and thinks: I don't understand. Great conversation.
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I mean, there are tons of stories you can tell. I love telling this story about a guy, it just turned out really funny. He says he took drugs and remembered that his mom loves boiled water. So, he started and started
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boiling water. He boiled water for 4 hours, and all those 4 hours he was boiling it and pouring it into cups, jars, plates, vases, bowls—any container—and lining them up in neat rows on the carpet. All "profound," imagine that. Practically Einstein.
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There. And then he goes to his friends and tells them: "Imagine the fun we had yesterday, like, all sorts of things." And everything seems great and fun to him. But he keeps falling. If a person is taking drugs very often now, every
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day, then they need money significantly more often than once a month. Right? Well, naturally, he isn't going to go to work. You understand that people in covert hostility don't work. They need to get it fast and easily. So, at the
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very least, he’ll start stealing. Of course, he won’t call it stealing. No , he’s just taking what’s his from his mom, get it? And why isn't she giving it?
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She owes me. Damn, is she my mom or not ? Why aren't you giving me the cash?
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You won't? I'll take it myself, quietly . He might even take it right out of your pockets. He might start selling drugs. And now he has a pleasant face with a smile. Want to try some?
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That’s already covert hostility on his face. So, he’s already a criminal . It happens to everyone. I recently gave a lecture at a school far, far away on the other side of town. And one guy told me: "Well, there’s no
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addiction to weed, right?" The whole class was sitting there. That’s a common opinion. I know about this, that there is no such thing as an addiction to weed at all. Weed is not a drug.
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There was a class sitting there, one class was sitting, and there wasn't a single teacher, a very small school.
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And well, I could ask any questions, and any question could, well, sort of be answered. I say to him: "Listen, when do you smoke yourself?" He says: " Yeah." I say: "Do you steal money sometimes?""Well, sometimes." Good. I
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ask the girl sitting on the left, I say : "Do you like chocolate candies?""Yes.
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" And if there were no chocolate candies, would you steal money for them ? "Am I crazy or something?" I say: "Do you feel the difference?" You can love anything you want, but you won't go stealing for it. If a person steals
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money to use drugs, they have an addiction, but they can tell themselves whatever they want. The most common phrase among people who use any drugs, if you ask them: "Can you quit?""Of course I can." Then why don't you quit?
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I don't feel like it yet. I remember talking to a woman, she came for a consultation, she wanted to send her daughter to rehab.
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Her daughter is studying at an institute, by the way, a good one. She tells me: "She's a junkie." I say: "And what makes you think she's a junkie?"" Well, you know, there's nothing to decide here." Our house is empty. She
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took everything out, she's injecting. I say: "Pardon me, but what does she tell you?""She says she can quit at any minute, she just doesn't feel like it yet." You see, this goes on forever.
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You know, when a person wants to, when they realize they need to quit, that moment might look something like this: "Hey, my legs have rotted off." Is it time to wrap it up? "That is the moment when a person starts to think just a
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little bit." But our boy Vasya isn't thinking yet, he continues to use, and notice, it climbs up to here. This is conservatism.
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And there is no high at all. Just normal. Better, of course, than back there, but there is no high. It's just not working. He smokes again, again he got some bad weed. He changes the weed, it's not working. Six joints a day is a
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real case. I'm not making anything up. And I know more than one person like that. Six joints a day. And around him are mostly people who use drugs, who need to sell their type of drugs. And they push him: "Kid, what's wrong with
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you?" Kids in the sixth grade smoke weed. Cool guys have been shooting up since the ninth grade. What are you doing, come to your senses. You haven't seen what a real high is. Well, at this point a person thinks much less. I
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don't remember, I don't think I told you, did I? This tone scale, depending on where a person is, that’s how much intelligence they manifest. That is, the amount of intelligence in boredom is 30%, the amount of intelligence in
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antagonism is 2%, and down there it's 0 %. A person doesn't think there, they react, can you imagine? They just react , saying let me try something else. And they try a new drug. Of course, they drop immediately into this tone of fear
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, which for them just becomes chronic. But here, with a new drug, they climb up the scale, but not for long. In two weeks, whereas with cannabis a person might go on for a year, two, or three, well, depending on their health. It’s
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different for everyone, after all. We don't know what our, well, capacity limit is. So, fine. He smoked cannabis for two years, believing he wasn't an addict. He started shooting up. In two weeks, the person will be right here in
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terms of the high. In boredom, a girl once told me, she says: "Well, for two years," this is her personal story, " for exactly two years she smoked cannabis, then she started taking pills , there's a sea of them, we won't list
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them." Then she started snorting whatever they gave her, this was in Moscow. And then, in the end, she started shooting up. And thank God, her mom had the money for it. Or maybe not thank God, well, her mom had the money.
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There was somewhere to steal from. Two weeks after she started shooting up. Two weeks passed. She says: "I wake up in the morning, cold sweat on my back, some filth is walking on the roof, stomping, rustling, and whispering on
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the roof: 'We'll take the dose now, call the police now, off to the madhouse now.'" And she runs to the roof to see who is walking there. She says: "I understand, in principle, with the remnants of my mind, that my roof
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is like this, it's impossible to stay up there." But someone is walking there , and she runs onto this house to see who is walking there. It's clear that no one is walking there, they have a hard time getting her off the roof, and
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she has no drugs. Half an hour passes, and she starts having a series of different interesting things added on.
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Her nose starts running, and after a while, tears, drool, diarrhea, and vomiting are added to this. In short, everything that possibly can is leaking out of her. And this wrecks everything so much that she says: "You can't sit,
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stand, lie down, or even walk." Only one thought: where to get it? Where to get it? And now the person takes the drug and climbs up the scale. Do you know what kind of high they get? An amazing one. They can chew food, and it
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doesn't fall out of their mouth. Four hours later they inject again, and now they can use the toilet without missing the bowl. Four hours later they inject, and now they can sleep, but only for 4 hours, no more. That's all a person is
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capable of doing while on drugs: eating , using the toilet, and sleeping. Well, in between those things, the person has to come up with money. And that money is no longer 5 hryvnias, it's now from 100 hryvnias to 100 dollars a day,
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depending on what they take. Not a small sum, right? Meaning a person has to steal a lot, sell drugs a lot, and the girls have to engage in hard physical labor on the country's roads.
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The boys shouldn't laugh; they would do it too, but they can't physically manage it. This is how it goes on, very quickly, and ends right here. 97%of these poor wretches are doomed, 3%are survivors. The survivors are unlikely to climb up here, as there's no life
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left. So, this is practically a death sentence the person has passed on themselves. That's clear. 21 years is the average life expectancy for addicts in Ukraine today. 21 years. At 20, they're already toothless. Rotting legs , impotent, along with all the other "
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pleasant" things. At 21, they're already dead. Why live a long time? Quickly. One-two. Already dead. Pretty normal, right? Why aren't we laughing?
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What, are you sad? Not funny. People, I have a question for you. Could you please tell me why we are literally at the end of the first part here? We know now what happens to the personality.
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At the beginning of the second part, I want to ask you a question. In your opinion, why did our boy Vasya never say at any stage: "I'm quitting"?
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The striving for something better. That's true. That is the basic human aspiration. I asked this question at the very beginning, and you answered it correctly. Striving for something better. And he doesn't know where else "better" exists, because for him, "
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better" is the drug. One. Two. Suddenly , for example, he finally opened his eyes and saw that his girlfriend left him, his parents kicked him out, he's standing under a tree, rain is dripping down, he has no roof, he has a mountain
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of debts, the police are chasing him, and he thinks: "This isn't very good." And he wants to quit. Why doesn't he quit?
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Emoti-, why doesn't he quit? Addiction. Addiction. Do you know that word? Yes. Excellent. I love talking about addiction. I love talking about it at universities. I love asking an interesting question there. I don't torture kids with such questions. I ask
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what addiction is, and I get varied and correct answers. I have nothing against them, but it’s still unclear. So, the sequence sounds like this. What is addiction? It’s when a person is used to it. Does everyone agree?
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Me too. And why is the person used to it? Because the body can’t do without drugs. Does everyone agree?
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Yes. And why can’t the body do without drugs? Because it has an addiction. Is it clearer to you now what addiction is? Much clearer. I finally understood it right at this minute. In reality, if people truly understood with their own
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minds what addiction is, I doubt any smart person would ever get into it. So, I have some unpleasant news to share with you. We have a big nuisance.
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This nuisance is called the body. Do you understand? Sometimes you want to fly over the roof of a house. The body. The body. Sometimes, perhaps, someone might want to sneak out of class. A little bored.
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You can’t. The body has to walk past the teacher. Sometimes the body gets sick, sometimes the body acts up for no reason. In short, sometimes it doesn't quite obey, but it depends on the position on the tone scale. Here it
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obeys more, here it controls the person . So, we have a body that obeys the laws of physics and chemistry. In general, this is the physical universe.
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Does everyone agree with that? It obeys. We—no, the body obeys. So, in the body, there are things called veins.
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Check just in case. There are. Good. If you take this thing, this vein , and pull the skin near it and move the skin between your fingers, pull it like this and move it like that, you will feel that between the skin and the
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vein there is a thin layer, which is slippery, called fat. This is the vein, and this is the fat located all around it. Got it?
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First: all kinds of drugs get into the vein. Is it clear to everyone that it’s all kinds?
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If a person smokes, how does the drug reach the vein—it's unfortunate. Through the lungs. That’s it, no more questions from me. I understood. If a person smokes through the lungs, if through the stomach, well, eats through the stomach, if it’s smoked, it goes
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straight to the vein. So, the drug got into the vein. Blood flows in the vein, and blood is 97%composed of water.
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Water. Excellent. And drugs are substances that do not dissolve in water. Chemistry in your hands. Have you ever held a textbook? Do you realize that some substances dissolve in water, while others do not? If we drop some sunflower oil into water, it
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obviously won't dissolve; it will just float in a globule. So, no drug—not even cannabis—dissolves in water.
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They actually make oil from cannabis, did you know that? An oilseed crop. But all drugs, absolutely all of them, dissolve in fats. In one form or another, they dissolve there and remain. He takes it once, twice, 10, 20, 30, 40 times—I
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don't know, 12, 25. He's stockpiling it , you see; it's an expensive commodity, it's a shame to throw it away. "I carry everything I own with me." The guy has accumulated drugs in his fatty tissue.
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Great. And at some point—well, he doesn't know about this, right? At some point, he says, "I'm quitting." Well, he's quitting; he's encountered some troubles. He says, "That's it, I've had enough, I'm quitting." And he doesn't take any. Here, we are empty. He is not
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taking drugs. He will have to endure some troubles depending on how much he took and what he took. Well, he'll have some trouble, sure, but he's already made up his mind—we are stronger, he's decided to say, "That's it, I'm a
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tough guy, a man of his word, I won't be taking any." And he doesn't take any . He held out for 3 months. And he looks outside. Listen, I think it's gorgeous weather for some soccer. Yeah, the weather is fine right now,
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of course. Well, the weather's fine—meaning it's not hot, the wind isn't blowing, and it's not raining on his head. And he looks at it and thinks, "Perfect weather for soccer." And he goes to play soccer, gathers his friends, and
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starts running across the field. Well, usually, when people decide to play something, there at least needs to be some strong interest; he runs out all happy and starts running and playing soccer. Very soon, bam—he’s already in antagonism, he's a bit nervous, and
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when a person is a bit nervous, they start making mistakes, so he misses the ball. And when a person in antagonism misses, he doesn't say, "I missed." He says, "You gave a bad pass, you idiot." Well, he doesn't just say that to him;
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he might add a few more things. Yes. He says, "Look at yourself." And now he's in anger. He's already yelling, running at everyone. He kicks the ball into the bushes and shows everyone which way to go. That's it. And he leaves as a
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friend. That's it. And he walks, walks, moves, moves, moves, and goes down the tone scale as well. And he is already walking. Good God, what a life? I don't even know. How I got here. Oh. Petya's apartment building entrance. Alright,
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I'll stop by and have some tea. Phew. What else can I do? Who has it easy these days? So he goes into Petya's place and has some tea. And he says: " The weather is awful, the ball is
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square, people can't play, everything is bad, everything." And Petya says: " Don't worry, my friend, let's fix your health, let's get you treated." And he gives him a drug. He takes it, right?
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Well, who’s thinking clearly in that kind of grief? A person in that state isn't thinking at all; he'd rather swallow something because he can't bear it anymore. And he takes the drug. In the morning he wakes up and says: "How
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could this happen again? I hadn't taken anything for 3 months. I dealt with all the horrors I had. I respected myself.
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I’ve figured out who is to blame." And he finds who is to blame. Who will he blame?
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Petya. Petya is a scumbag. How could he? Are there not enough kids for him out there ? Go around selling it left and right.
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Look how green they are. Why does this concern me? I had quit. He knew how much I was suffering. How could he? You know, Petya doesn't give a damn. When he looks at people your age, he's just counting the money. Oh, look how much
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of my cash is sitting there. He has no other thoughts on the matter at all.
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Fortunately, he doesn't want to educate you. He wants to line his pockets. So Petya doesn't care. But Vasya, he takes it, quits, takes it, quits, takes it, quits, and died. What happened to him?
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He wants to quit, but he can't. What is addiction? Addiction is a very simple thing that depends on this solid part of the body. Tell me, if a person runs or jumps, do they burn energy?
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And where do we get energy in the body? From fat. From fat. I don't know, maybe he's playing football, or walking up to the fifth floor, or catching a bus, or carrying a heavy bag, or maybe he visited his girlfriend and decided to
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help her mop the floor. I don't know what he'll be doing. He burns energy.
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Energy is contained in adipose tissue. And what else, besides energy, does this poor fellow have in his fat?
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Drugs. Drugs. Now watch the rapid action. I'm asking a question now. What will happen ? You will answer me, what will happen?
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Look, a small amount of drugs, microscopic, tiny, gets back into the bloodstream. Tiny, absolutely tiny.
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What do you think will happen to him? He will want, will wa-will want more.
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A priori. Are there any other opinions? It hits great. It hits great. That’s what I’m waiting for. Someone is telling me he will want more. Those who have already heard it, you understand? And those who haven't heard say: "He'll be getting a
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high, he'll be going through withdrawal ." But sometimes he will want more. We have three possible answers. We are going to feel it for ourselves right now. We’re just going to feel it.
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Ready? You’re about to feel his emotion. So, we start small and end with the emotion he feels. First. Can you imagine a heat of 35 ° C?
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Are you hot already? Yes. If you’re not hot, imagine it harder. Okay, you are hot. Heat of 35 ° C. You have your last 75 kopecks in your hand.
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Like a flag. You walk three blocks for ice cream. Are you still walking for ice cream?
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Yes. Good. You are walking for ice cream. God, where are you arriving? Yay. You buy it. Yay. Take a small bite. The piece went down your throat. You haven't even had time to swallow, it just went down your throat. And then
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someone comes up to you like this: " Listen, what are you eating that ice cream for? Smack on the hand." It goes splat on the ground. He says: "Wipe it off with your foot, well, did you eat it?" And you are desperately trying to
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enjoy the high. Who managed to get the high? Oh, everyone is healthy. No one has any deviations. I know what the first desire is. And then, after you've punched him as much as you wanted and collected 40 rubles for
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moral damages, what will you want most in the world? Yesterday at a lecture, a guy tells me: "I'll be licking the asphalt." The man got into character. Just like that, I'll be licking the asphalt. There. And now look, that’s just ice cream, can
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you imagine? Just regular ice cream, sweet, delicious summer. And now look at this poor guy. He is running around.
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A small particle of drugs entered the blood. A small one. And do you know what it does there? It runs through the blood and says: "Add more, add more, add more." Aren't you at Petya's place yet? Well, go, and so the body goes.
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That's it. And he is already at Petya's . He doesn't think, he does. This thing forces him to go to Petya's all the time. Every physical exertion of his, the drug is there, the body turned, physical stress on the body began. That
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is addiction. Is that clear? Back in '64, this same American scientist Ron Hubbard discovered this thing. The accumulation of drugs in fats. It's just fantastic. Because of this, while they are there, all those dependencies exist. Therefore, well, it’s up to
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you whether to stuff them in there or not. Well, you already know that if you have, then, as one guy told me—I was giving a lecture in Pavlograd—a young guy, a drug addict as it turned out, kept coming. He attended four lectures;
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he kept coming, coming, and following me. I’ll explain now why he kept coming for so long. Well, why he had to come several times, he didn't get it the first time. But then he came up to me and said: "You know, now when I
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approach the entrance, well, like Petya’s, and I want to use, I realize that this kind of thing is happening, and I have to walk away from that entrance. It’s hard for me, but I walk away." I think, wow, I helped a
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drug addict. I don't guarantee that he won't use drugs, because his addiction is already severe. He has tried everything. But at least the person knows it, and he can stop and say: "How am I obeying this piece of meat, this
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body? And where am I?" Alright. Why did that guy who came to me with this story , why did he have to go to my lecture four times to grasp what is being discussed here? I have a question for
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you. What particular trait of drug addicts is mostly poked fun at in jokes , KVN shows, and so on?
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Excellent. Look at how well-developed our culture is. Everyone knows there are tons of jokes about drug addicts, they joke about them on KVN, and mostly they make fun of the fact that they are slow. That’s exactly what I want to
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talk about quickly now. The thing is, we have another good thing. It’s in the body, right? Or maybe not in the body, I don't know. But we have a mind.
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Do you have one? No. I have one. I'll tell you more, everyone has a mind.
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And it works the same way for everyone. I’m drawing it now. And a question.
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Attention, question. Almost like Brain Ring, right? Attention, question. Tell me, please, in your opinion, are the brain and the mind, well, brains and mind, the same thing or are they slightly different?
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Different. You’ve probably seen a computer. Seen a computer? Yes. Amazing. So, here we will have a schematic human figure drawn. Well, a bit crooked, but that's okay. These are the conventional brains . I was recently criticized for having
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too few convolutions. I just don't have time to draw more. So, if we take this diagram as a box with wires, a computer , yes, a box with wires. If this computer has no files, no memory, no programs, if there is nothing at all
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inside it, can it be used as a computer ? No, you can just put a teapot on it, right? So, we have something, but we don't care about that right now. What we care about is the question: how is
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the program structured? And the program is structured like this: the mind writes pictures at a speed of 25 frames per second. I’m not drawing corrugated ears here. I’m drawing those very 25 pictures. Well, I might not draw 25, but there should be a lot.
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So, every single second, the mind records 25 pictures. Snap, there go 25 pictures. In one picture, in one small picture, there are 57 whole sensations.
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You are sitting here right now, you are recording sound, light, well, everything you—uh-huh. Got it, right?
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Besides that, you are recording the chemical composition of your blood. How every joint is turned, whether to the right or to the left. Is the chair soft or hard, what’s there, how the hair on your head is, how much it weighs,
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how much one—oh, the terrible amount of information. And all of this can be reproduced, worked on, and reproduced.
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We are going to reproduce some very small, simple things now. Two quickly. First, we'll do this little thing quickly. Close your eyes, think of a cat. Raise your hands. Who can see an image of a cat?
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Ah, super. Good. Now you can keep them closed or open, it doesn't matter. Uh, everyone here, even the boys, I think, have seen the TV series "The Nanny," right? At least one episode, right?
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Good. I’m asking questions directly about that show. There. Can you get an image of the nanny right now? Boys, can you get an image of the nanny?
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Yes, that beautiful hairstyle, right, girls? And the variety of her blouses and skirts. Ah, and do you remember her pleated ones, how many different ones she had? Super. Yes. Good. And can you see the son, this Denis? Such a skinny
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boy. Aha, I see. So that’s easy? Yes. By the way, tell me, please, which of the three children has a tone of hidden hostility?
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The little one. The little one for you. The little one is a total moody one. She goes to a therapist regularly and says, I don't know what. The boy...but if you take the characters, who is the most...?
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Zhanna Arkadyevna is always super. Look how convenient this already is. You already know Tone. Good. So, we can get an image. We can easily answer a question. Well, a simple one is really easy. Ready? Now we’re going to test
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the speed, the speed. Ready for a difficult question? Yes. Then I’m asking it. Answer quickly, as fast as you can. What is two times two?
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Four. And a moment has passed. You went back 8 years, looked at the answer four, set it like this, and put it back on the same shelf. Can you imagine this crazy speed? What slow computer can compare to this? Excellent. That is how our
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mind works. We asked a question, it went there, the answer was found, we looked at it, and the answer was put back on the same shelf. Is that clear?
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Right? Good. Have you ever heard, my dears, that a person who got drunk in the evening might wake up in the morning and say: "I don't remember very well where I was." You are nodding quite actively, as if
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you've been in that state yourselves. Good. So, people, I’m warning you now: memory loss during alcohol intoxication corresponds almost to the second stage of alcoholism. I read that in a textbook, just so you know, just in case. I know people who were helped by
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this; they said, "Oh, mama, mama, mama, time to quit." So, we have this thing.
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A person was drinking or taking drugs, and they have some images here that are a bit foggy. And here they have something a bit foggy. And here they have a bit more fog. And right here lies the data they need to find. Well,
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for example, where did I put my hat last spring? It's autumn now, my ears are cold. Well, we usually do a simple action. Mom, where's my hat? Well, after a while, when there's no mom, you need to look for the hat yourself, so
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you do it yourself. And the person went , so, where's the hat? Yeah, ready? Yes .
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So for me, it's: ready, set, go. Gone. Remember the foggy images, right? Let's go. Phew. I remember now. Both got an answer. That is called a lag. That is number one. Number two. Surely each of you has heard the word "hallucination,"
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I think. Yes. But if you can now, with your eyes open or closed, imagine a cat that is green, riding a motorcycle, wearing a hat with horns, uh, it has slippers with pom-poms on its feet, and it goes meow. It's possible to imagine
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that, right? That was not a hallucination. You understand the difference between imagination, right? And probably this. You know that such a cat does not exist. But a person who is having a hallucination does not know that such a
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cat does not exist. This isn't our flying green cow; this is a druggie one . Yes. Drawing. A person took drugs, is walking down the street, and is happy.
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Why is he happy? Because it’s right before their eyes, unbidden and unexpected. Suddenly, a little flower appears. They walk, looking at the flower and enjoying it. It would seem, there is nothing terrible about that. A person is looking at something
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beautiful, note that. It’s fine if it’s a flower, but what if it’s Freddy Krueger? Okay, let’s leave that question aside. The flower, what happened here? The flower just went boom and got stuck right before their eyes. They look ahead, and the flower
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is there. The biggest problem isn't that they see it, but that this image will never go back. This image will now be somewhere here. The person is watching a hallucination; a strange process is underway. They looked at the
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image, and it jumped over here. They looked from there, it tucked itself in there, and the process continues like that. I hope you have been to a library . If you go to a library, you see this: a catalog, a cabinet, and inside the
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cabinet are little drawers, labels on the drawers, you open a drawer, and there are index cards by last name. You come up and say, "Please give me Pushkin’s fairy tales." And the librarian says to you, "No problem."" Right here is the Russian literature
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catalog.""Tap-tap, Pushkin, fairy tales ." That’s it, you go off and read. Your mind is organized exactly the same way, only much more complex and precise . Now imagine that everything here got scrambled. A person smokes a joint, and
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their mental drawers—well, speaking figuratively. Whoosh. Wow, colorful pictures, super. They toss them, and they spill out just like this. They look at them and laugh for three hours.
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It’s fun, right? Or they study them like a genius for three hours. Then they fall, and they sweep them up with a broom and shove them back in randomly . Everything is great. Boy, find Pushkin’s fairy tales, no problem. Oh
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, Ivanov, and here’s Pushkin for you. Girls, imagine you’re at a disco, right, and you meet some guy, right?
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Well, some new guy arrived. Interesting to get to kn—You, boy, what is your name? Ah, boy, what is your name? Me?
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You? Well, boy, just state your name. Why do you need to know? Boy, what is your name? My name is Vasya. Well, there could be variations, it could be like this. Boy, what is your name? Ah, boy, what grade are you in? Vasya.
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There could be a completely unintended variation of a delayed response. Do you know what it looks like? Boy, what is your name? Listen, we saw such a cool movie yesterday, we were totally blown away. An hour about the movie. My name
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is Vasya. These are all response delays . He is not answering the question; he is doing something else at the time. Do you know what he's doing? Hey kid, what's your name? Tyn. He's flipping through the cards. Both. No, that's not
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it. Three. Both. Not it. Oh. Yeah. Hey kid, what's your name? And we watched a cool movie, and he's flipping through the movie. Oh, Vasya found it.
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It’s funny, of course, but I’ll give you two sad examples. Sad examples . Two hypothetical, one real. A hypothetical example. I like this example. Girls, I’m appealing to you.
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So, your boyfriend, who smokes weed, god forbid. And he finally decides to confess his love. I don’t know if he can even love, of course.
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But okay, let's assume he can. So he comes over and is standing there right now with a flower. And when someone wants to confess their love, they sometimes get nervous. Are you even aware of that?
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Or it begins. And when a person is nervous, those pictures in a drug addict's head start to fall out of order. Those ones that are all mixed up for him, right? There. And so he’s like, well, only "I," and then "love
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you," right? He says "I," but a picture of a loser flashes before his eyes.
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Alright. And that’s it. A real-life example on this topic. I’m giving a lecture at a technical college. A girl comes up to me and says, "Thank you, I finally understand what's happening to my boyfriend." I say, "What's happening
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to him?" She says, "We've been dating for two years.""And just this year he started having some problems, but he won't admit it.""I talk to him for a while, and after a bit he looks at me and says, 'Why did you swear at me?'"
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She says, "Do you believe me?""I didn't even open my mouth to say anything nasty to him.""I love him, but he says such things to me, it upsets me.""I try to tell him that I didn't say that." He says he heard it. That's normal, right?
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So he really did hear it, he's right, he hears it. It's just that those pictures of his are mixed up and starting to work actively. And imagine a person with this, with this trouble, working on an airplane. And imagine he
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doesn't work on an airplane, he didn't get into college, he joined the army. And now he's sitting there, controlling the red button. And you know, sitting over a red button all day is boring. He sits there staring at the screen,
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he’s bored, he’s already feeling bad, he’s already in antagonism. It sinks lower and lower, and in the end, something triggers in here. You just press it and that's it. And our missiles fly who knows where. Planes crash who knows where. People don't
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know why. Well, it's because our youth think that cannabis is a wonderful thing that expands consciousness. Sure, it expands it so much that it shrinks to a single point. That’s clear, right? Good. The last thing I’m drawing here, the very last thing, is a
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boy. The body is important to us too, after all. Do you even care about your body at all?
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No, don't want to. No. So, let's draw the body and learn something else interesting. We’ll have a boy named Vasya here. A handsome guy. I like what a cutie he is. I didn't graduate from your lyceum. He’s as healthy as
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Schwarzenegger. Or so it seems to me. Schwarzenegger. So, actually, I’m not at all interested in what this drawing looks like on the outside. I’m interested in what’s inside. There should be a large area here. So, inside here, we draw vitamins
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. They are present in both boys and girls. What I’m talking about applies to both sexes. Understood? I’m just using boys as an example so the girls don’t feel embarrassed. Okay. So, this will be vitamin C, vitamin A.
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It’s not what you’re thinking, it’s vitamins. B1, calcium, and magnesium. What’s lower? Magnesium. These are vitamins. I don’t see anything funny about this picture. So, vitamin C. Are you aware that bacteria are flying around here?
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There are a lot of them. With every breath you take. I’ll show you now. You inhale, and bam, 1,000 bacteria go in.
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Inside, vitamin C is there like a .45 caliber. So it fires back. And we stay healthy. Everything is fine, we don’t get sick. Vitamin A. If our vitamin levels are in order, if we have enough, then if you look at your hands, I hope
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you’ll find that they aren't peeling, the skin isn't cracking, nothing is rotting or smelling. Having enough vitamin A means good vision and growth too. But we’re concerned about the skin right now, yes, vitamin B1, it’s super, people, listen carefully. No,
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fish is for phosphorus. So, vitamin B1 is contained in—I’ll give you the answer right away. It’s black bread, various grains. That’s B1. It’s the stuff not everyone likes . And what is it needed for in the body ? I’ll tell you right now. First, so
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you aren't a psycho. Second, so you don’t have nightmares in your sleep. And third, to think faster. Imagine how useful it is. Yes.
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There. That’s B1. Calcium. Oh, well, you know calcium. For bones. Teeth, bones, hair, nails, uh, hooves, horns. That’s all calcium . And the last one. Magnesium. The four most difficult words of the lecture.
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Magnesium is a thing that increases the electrical conductivity of nerve channels. What is conducted in nerve channels? A signal. What kind of signal ? Any kind. If I touch the board, like this, without erasing, there, I feel that it is an absolutely smooth surface
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, slightly cut in places. A little bit of chalk. Oh, there’s a nail here.
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How good that I was careful, or I would have gotten cut. If I put my hand in the door, and someone slams the door from the other side, what will I feel?
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I will feel pain and say, "Ouch!" If I eat a candy, I feel that it’s sweet. It’s our dear magnesium that helps us receive sensations. Our boy Vasya decided that he didn't have enough of these substances and decided
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to add to them, for example, by smoking a joint. Maybe, for instance, he took some, you know, what they call pills, right? Well, everyone understands it’s not from a truck, right?
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Excellent. So he ate something, swallowed something, sniffed something, or injected something, it doesn’t matter what. Well, of course, not all at once. Otherwise, it would just be bam and that’s it. No more sensations ever again. So the drug goes inside. As
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soon as a drug enters the body, it burns up these poor vitamins, and they are destroyed. And a person starts having various interesting things happen. Well, first, if his vitamin A is completely burned out, he might start behaving like this. At this point
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, many schools don’t mention drugs. They mentioned it there, but quietly. Well, if he’s itching—well, with heroin, it’s 100%itchy, all of this.
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If he scratches, he has bacteria under his nails that get inside the small cuts on his skin, and inside there is no vitamin C, so they start to multiply . And when bacteria multiply in the body, they start to eat us. And when
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bacteria eat us, our body starts to rot . That’s the truth. I’m not saying that you rot from cannabis. No. But when a person takes drugs, injects them , they will definitely have this. I remember a girl who came for a
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consultation; she had these sores on both arms from her wrists to her shoulders. Everything was rotting. And she looked at me with a naive face: "Do you know what I should do?" I said, " What are you doing?" She says, "I’m
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applying ointment." I say, "Show me what you're using." She shows the medicine. I say, "Very good, is it helping?" No, it's not helping. I say, "Have you tried quitting drugs?" Do you know what she answered? Why should I?
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I'm not an addict, I only shoot up twice a day. I tell you, when a person says, "Oh my God, my legs have rotted away," that's it, time to quit. This girl who told me about going up to the
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roof and all, she told me, "When I had my first withdrawal, that was the first time I thought, maybe I am an addict." But then she said, "No-no, I'll probably quit later, once they've rotted off." But that's Vitamin C,
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Vitamin A, Vitamin B1; naturally, if it's low, the first thing a person sees are nightmares, not in their sleep, but while awake. You're walking, and there are bushes, and inside the bushes are those aliens. What a pleasant life.
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Great, right? So, they become very nervous. Danger is everywhere. That's why they lash out at everyone like a maniac, screaming.
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Yes, very nervous folks. Calcium. I don't mean to say all your teeth will fall out. God forbid. I saw a 23- year-old guy, he'd been using for 3 years, and he still had half his teeth.
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And what does a 23-year-old need all his teeth for? He only has a year left to live at this stage of drug addiction . So. And the last thing. I'm drawing magnesium. These will be our brains again with the same number of folds.
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This is a nerve channel. And this is one of the nerve endings, the fingers.
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This is a hole. What is this hole? Let me draw it for you. There. If I had a microphone here and an amplifier here, there would be a cord between them and a plug. This is practically the same
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electrical system in the nerves. This here is like a plug, and that's magnesium. There are thousands of these plugs, there are many of them. This thing is designed to speed up every signal. Understood? Just an accelerator . And here is a hot iron. I touched the
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hot iron. A signal was sent. It's painful. It reached the magnesium. Magnesium sped it up. Pain, pain, pain.
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Brain commands the hand to pull away. And the hand pulls away. It's called a reflex. Understood. The hand didn't burn. A person takes drugs, the magnesium burns out. A block forms here . We touch the iron. The signal reached
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here. Did it reach here? No. Was the command given? No. Did it pull away?
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No. It's still on the iron. So, well, some time passes, and the person goes to take drugs again so that it doesn't hurt. In one of the lectures, a tenth-grade student sat there and told me: "I heard that drug addicts don't
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get sick." I said: "Who did you hear that from?" From drug addicts. A good source of information. Of course, he doesn't get sick. He has no magnesium, so he doesn't feel it. If a person stops taking drugs, they will have
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certain symptoms. He'll catch a cold, get a runny nose, something will happen . If he’s injecting, then oh my god, he'll be in for it. That's clear, right ? Let's move on. We started with pleasure. We'll end with pleasure. I
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mean, we'll finish with pleasure. Here we will have a different nervous pathway, so to speak. I don't know why you're smiling. Here there will be an eye.
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Just an eye. And it's Vasya's eye. And Vasya has a girlfriend named Masha. Our Masha. Do you have a Masha?
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Let's not remove it. The name Masha. We're removing it. It's Fyokla. Good. We have Fyokla instead.
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Fyokla. So, this is the boy Vasya. He has a girl named Fyokla. God, heaven forbid wishing that on Masha. So, Vasya still has everything in order with his magnesium. Here we have everything back in order again. Vasya looks at Masha. I
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want to say right now, I'm not talking to you about love here. You are adults, aren't you? Love is on a new scale there, right? Here I am purely about the mechanism, like this reflex.
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Okay, you understand, right? What am I talking about? Good. He looks at us at Fyokla. The signal went: "Oh, this is my beloved Fyokla here." Magnesium didn't speed it up. "Fyokla, Fyokla, Fyokla, do something." And the brainstem starts giving commands to
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various parts of the body, which somehow or other occasionally react. And we can conclude that Vasya is healthy.
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Healthy. Healthy. Good. Vasya started taking drugs. This magnesium here has burned out. Well, not the first time, that's for sure. That's the danger of drugs, do you understand? Not the first time, not the second, and then bam, you
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forget, and then bam, it's all over. And it's imperceptible. And so, after some time, I won't say how long, it depends on one's luck. Half a year, a year, maybe someone lasts a year and a half. He looks at Masha. Oh, at Fyokla.
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The signal went out that this is my beloved Fyokla. It reached here. Here is a block; it reached here.
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No. Command, nada. No. Something twitched. No. Now, a trick question. Could you name the medical term for when something didn't twitch?
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Sympathy. See, aren't you clever. At one school, they didn't say paralysis. Yes. Partial paralysis sets in. There.
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Well, our Vasya doesn't care about anything, because the only thought he has in his life is where to get money, where to get drugs, where to get money, where to get drugs, where to get money, where to get everything, no other
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thoughts. Is that clear? That is all the happiness he has achieved in his life. Now, here is something for you, guys. Well, everything is clear to you regarding drugs, right? Are there any questions about drugs?
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No. None. Then the last thing I want to tell you. A very, very interesting, curious thing. Again, this unpleasant thing we have, which is called a body, it exists, right? Check, is the body in place?
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Ah, in place. Good. A trick question. Tell me, if your parents gift you a mobile phone of the latest design, practically a computer with access to outer space, music, and all that. Well, I won't list it all, I'm not good at it
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. You were gifted this very mobile phone. Well, would you be happy about that fact?
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Yeah. Well, good. You are gifted this mobile phone with a speech like this. They tell you: "My daughter or son, this mobile phone is completely yours." What does "yours" mean? Whatever you want to do with it, do it. You know,
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sometimes you just do what you want. Yes. Well, you are in that state. I do whatever I want. You were finally told: "Do whatever you want." You: "Hooray, I'll do whatever I want." And you smash it, and that's it. Will you smash it,
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or will you say: "Oh, mine"? Yes, look, do you have a body right now?
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No. Is it your body? No, how is it not? Listen, maybe mom or dad would really love to use your body, but they can't even go to the toilet for you. You have a thing that is one hundred percent yours. One hundred
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percent. Nobody's but yours. And you have the right to do whatever you want with your body. I want it, I want it, you know, to rot away. I want to. Go on , take drugs. Mom dreamed all her life
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of being an invalid. Go on, take drugs. It is yours. You have the right to dispose of it. And you are still normal , healthy, in good condition children, adults. I don't know. You can have it, you can not have it. It is only your
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desire. That is clear to everyone. No one will stop you. except for yourselves. Do you agree with that?
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Good. Thank you very much for your attention, because I really love giving lectures to you specifically. This is the best educational institution in the city of Kharkiv.
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Thank you very much for your attention. I wish for you to stay alive. Thank you . I forgot to say. Hey. Hey.
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