Now he’s starting a CULT: Joshua Mhlakela the sociopath… — Transcript

Mike Winger critiques Joshua Mhlakela's false rapture prophecy, warning of spiritual deception and a potential new cult forming.

Key Takeaways

  • False prophecy can lead to spiritual deception and harm to believers.
  • Followers often double down on failed predictions rather than abandoning them.
  • Charismatic leaders with grandiose claims can form dangerous cults.
  • Discernment is essential to avoid being misled by false teachers.
  • Public critique and conversation can help expose and counteract deception.

Summary

  • Mike Winger analyzes Joshua Mhlakela's failed rapture prediction for September 23-24 and subsequent denial.
  • Winger warns this may mark the start of a new cult with sociopathic and deceptive leadership.
  • Joshua claims to be God's 'last arrow' and insists his rapture date prophecy is final despite failure.
  • The video critiques Joshua's arrogance, manipulation tactics, and spiritual instability.
  • Winger highlights the dangerous effects of false prophecy on followers' souls and Christian witness.
  • The video includes clips from the Cent Twins podcast where Joshua was challenged by hosts.
  • Winger explains how followers double down on failed prophecies instead of leaving.
  • The video exposes the flawed reasoning and false spiritual claims behind Joshua's teachings.
  • Winger emphasizes the importance of discernment and warns against platforming false prophets.
  • The critique aims to spiritually protect viewers from deception and cult influence.

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00:00
Speaker A
I told you guys they would change the dates. Well, the rapture is back on, according to the false, fake, lying prophet, Joshua Malakela or Joshua Malakela.
00:16
Speaker A
This is disastrous. We might be witnessing the beginning of a new cult. I think sociologists will actually literally be studying this because we've never had access to so many potential future cult members and their thought process and them going through the disappointment of a fake rapture prediction to then losing some members and having the remaining ones double down.
00:48
Speaker A
Hey, Joshua was right all along. We've got a new calculation. You've got to hear this new calculation. This is insanity and lies from Satan in the name of Jesus. And I know there's a lot of sincere Christians caught up in it.
01:45
Speaker A
But you, you, it's the most gracious loving thing for me to tell you, you are caught up in spiritual deception, not just well-intended, oops, I made a mistake.
02:11
Speaker A
Like this is actual spiritual deception that will harm your soul, harm your witness and harm others and it will lead to other future problems if you don't learn the lesson. Like this is here, my not a prophecy, but my prediction based on many years of experience in life.
02:33
Speaker A
I'm telling you, um, not as many as other people, a lot more than I used to have. I'm telling you that you will have many other major errors in your life because you, you misinterpret events and your feelings and your experiences as the voice of God.
02:52
Speaker A
And that's the hardest part to overcome. Anyways, we'll get more into this, but you you've got to hear the the footage.
03:02
Speaker A
Okay, listen, the guy prophesied that the rapture would happen on September 23rd and 24th. He swore up and down. He said it was the very words of God, that not a single thing he said would fail. It didn't happen on that date. And then he kind of went dark for a few days. And then he came out recently back on the Cent Twins podcast, which I'm about to show you.
03:49
Speaker A
And he at least this time these ladies pushed back. So props to you ladies, you offered some pushback that was I'm glad you did. Um, that it was bad that you platformed him to start with because he's a fake lying prophet and it was obvious.
04:20
Speaker A
I think to anybody who has discernment, otherwise you shouldn't be platforming prophets at all if you can't tell. And this pushback that you provided this time, this second time around, that was helpful.
04:45
Speaker A
This actual interview is going to do in a sense more good than harm because it allows the public conversation to take place. So, let's have that conversation. Let's bring good out of the harm. Listen to this. They welcome him back.
05:02
Speaker A
This is on September 26th.
05:04
Speaker A
So it's three days after he said he would be raptured.
05:09
Speaker A
He literally in their previous interview promised, I will not, they'll they go, we'll have you back on September 25th after the rapture.
05:17
Speaker A
He goes, never going to happen.
05:18
Speaker A
I'll play that clip later.
05:20
Speaker A
Listen to this. It's highly educational, but I also believe that somebody out there's going to watch this video and you will literally be delivered from this future cult or some other group because you'll start to go.
05:32
Speaker A
My whole way of processing the voice of God needs to be adjusted. And that's very important.
05:40
Speaker B
Mr. Joshua, welcome back to the show.
05:42
Speaker C
Welcome, ladies. Thank you. I mean, thank you for welcoming.
05:45
Speaker B
Yeah, so we are back here. Today's the 26th of September. That is the big elephant in the room.
05:55
Speaker B
Um, and the last time you were here, you assured us a billion percent that we would not be here today because of the rapture.
06:03
Speaker B
So, I think, um, before anything, we're going to give you the platform to speak.
06:10
Speaker B
Now, I feel like it's fair to give you an opportunity to talk.
06:15
Speaker A
So you're saying their podcast has never, or their YouTube channel, I should say, has never grown as quickly as it did because of this Joshua guy.
06:22
Speaker A
They weren't they weren't that they didn't have, I mean, not like they weren't successful at all, but they didn't have as much traction. They had tons more traction because of this guy.
06:40
Speaker A
Getting him back on is really good YouTube content for them, but also it's going to be spiritually helpful to people, even though he's spreading lies, it's so bad.
06:54
Speaker A
The lies are so, so bad. I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you how bad the lies are.
07:00
Speaker A
That it will, I think wake a lot of people up and some will not, some will be locked in delusion, but nothing would wake them up anyways.
07:10
Speaker A
Nothing would. So, I I just say you're they're unstable spiritually.
07:15
Speaker A
And there's that's just what the Bible calls them.
07:21
Speaker A
Says that these false teachers entice unstable souls, scripture says it.
07:26
Speaker A
So, let's look at some clips from this podcast.
07:30
Speaker C
Jesus is God who came down from heaven.
07:36
Speaker A
This is out of the playbook of Benny Hinn. So Benny Hinn says that when he gets in trouble, get you not, in a rare moment, he's advising these other pastors on how to deal with their controversies.
07:52
Speaker A
So he goes, when I get in trouble, I just focus on the gospel and so he'll just preach the gospel.
08:00
Speaker A
Because he knows how disarming it is to Christians. So, he starts the podcast by going, I just I'm all about Jesus and I just want to preach the gospel.
08:10
Speaker A
I believe this is insincere, that this is damage control. I'm glad that the gospel's being preached, just like Paul said in Philippians, right?
08:20
Speaker A
I rejoice that the name of Christ is being proclaimed.
08:25
Speaker A
But I don't pretend about the motives. This it's bad motives, just like Paul discussed.
08:30
Speaker A
These are bad motives that he's got and it's manipulation that he's trying to do through it.
08:33
Speaker A
So he filibusters and he drags, it's 20 something minutes before you even know what he's talking about.
08:40
Speaker A
But he starts by saying that I'm sorry, it is it is comedy, okay?
08:47
Speaker A
This is comically bad and you're going to think so too, 95% of you when you see more of this content.
08:53
Speaker A
Anybody who thinks like, Mike, you know, don't don't point out that it's actually foolish.
09:00
Speaker A
Like, no, that's kind of the whole point of this video.
09:03
Speaker A
Is to show that it's actually foolish.
09:05
Speaker A
So I I'm going to laugh.
09:08
Speaker A
I'm going to laugh when laughter is appropriate here.
09:12
Speaker A
God even laughs. He sits in heaven and laughs as as they plot against him.
09:17
Speaker A
This is can be appropriate.
09:19
Speaker A
So, listen how he sets the stage.
09:22
Speaker A
And boy, the uh the Cent Twins, these ladies are are like so confused by what he says this.
09:27
Speaker C
In 2018, after God had revealed this date.
09:34
Speaker C
He said to me one day, you are like my last arrow in my quiver.
09:42
Speaker C
And what he meant by that was that he was going to use me in this last move before he comes.
09:50
Speaker A
What you're getting here is a glimpse of the the egotistical position he believes he has. I am God's final arrow in his quiver.
10:07
Speaker A
I'm the last messenger of God.
10:12
Speaker A
I mean, this is like what Muhammad said. This is delusions of grandeur that go beyond.
10:22
Speaker A
Um, so this is what's inside this guy's mind.
10:30
Speaker A
He is he is incredibly puffed up. There's incredible amount of arrogance and self-assurance.
10:37
Speaker A
And I think he's being fed lies from Satan and he's just totally sucking it up because it feeds his flesh.
10:40
Speaker A
But follow along because it just is going to get crazier and crazier.
10:43
Speaker C
The date that I have given people, it is the final one.
10:51
Speaker C
You might be confused for now.
10:53
Speaker B
Yeah.
10:54
Speaker C
It is the final date.
10:56
Speaker C
No one else in the whole world will come with another prophecy for the rapture date.
11:06
Speaker C
Mine is the final one.
11:08
Speaker A
Yeah, he said that about September 23rd.
11:14
Speaker A
And what he's saying is that previous September 23rd prediction.
11:20
Speaker A
That was that was accurate.
11:22
Speaker A
I was right all along.
11:24
Speaker A
And the day he's saying this on is September 26th.
11:30
Speaker A
But I kid you not, droves of his followers are 100% on the same page with him and in this interview you're going to find out why.
11:43
Speaker A
And it is, um, it is very bad reasoning.
11:50
Speaker A
And I'm going to show you, I'll demonstrate why it's very simple to demonstrate where their super complicated mathematical algorithms go wrong.
12:00
Speaker A
I'll I'll demonstrate that for for their sakes.
12:04
Speaker A
If you guys are still watching, I know that it's very easy for you to ignore contrary voices.
12:10
Speaker A
But I'm a I'm a man who believes in Jesus, who actually has a track record of doing ministry unlike Joshua.
12:18
Speaker A
You know where I'm from, you know what I stand for.
12:21
Speaker A
I've been doing it for years.
12:24
Speaker A
So I encourage you just to at least listen all the way through and think about it.
12:30
Speaker A
It doesn't hurt to just think about it.
12:32
Speaker A
Because I'm certainly not telling you not to have hope in Jesus.
12:35
Speaker A
I'm just telling you not to believe Joshua.
12:38
Speaker C
When you see this quiver, I mean, this arrow.
12:42
Speaker C
Going all over the world.
12:45
Speaker A
He's speaking of himself going around the world here.
12:47
Speaker C
Shaking the entire world.
12:50
Speaker A
He's speaking of himself shaking the entire world.
12:52
Speaker C
This, my point here is that this is the doing or this is the work of God.
12:59
Speaker C
God is blowing his own trumpet to the world announcing his coming.
13:06
Speaker A
So, he's the trumpet.
13:10
Speaker A
Is is that what he's getting, it's this is confusing and strange, but it's obvious what he's saying about himself.
13:22
Speaker A
I'm going around the world. I'm shaking the world. I'm God's final arrow.
13:30
Speaker A
He has leveled up, not down.
13:33
Speaker A
He has leveled up his sense of self-value and worth.
13:40
Speaker A
Now, this is one of the reasons why I say this is the makings of a cult.
13:43
Speaker A
Because this is how cults get started.
13:45
Speaker A
Because what he did was he he got a huge amount of attention because of just the viral nature of online content.
13:54
Speaker A
Now, probably the majority of people seeing him didn't believe him.
14:00
Speaker A
A lot of people were on the fence.
14:02
Speaker A
But then there was a core who was a significant number who totally believed him. They sold houses. They messed their whole lives up because they believed him.
14:15
Speaker A
They were so convinced, they were making videos, they were doing gatherings, and then the date came and passed and didn't happen.
14:26
Speaker A
So some of them will fall away now.
14:30
Speaker A
That's going to be the formula now.
14:32
Speaker A
Some of them will fall away. Others will double down. They will be more committed than ever.
14:41
Speaker A
They will trauma bond with this guy.
14:45
Speaker A
They will be more committed than ever and he's leveling up his rhetoric. I'm the final arrow in the in the in the quiver of God.
15:00
Speaker A
He's I'm the trumpet.
15:04
Speaker A
I'm effectively the trumpet of God here in the last days.
15:08
Speaker A
So as they're learning to deny reality and just trust Joshua and he's leveling up his rhetoric about being not just, um,
15:17
Speaker A
you know, previously he was like, I'm not a prophet, even though he was prophesying clearly, he was acting as a prophet.
15:24
Speaker A
He denied it.
15:25
Speaker A
Now, he seems to be leveling up.
15:30
Speaker A
This is a super scary scenario.
15:33
Speaker A
It's actually genuinely scary.
15:35
Speaker A
I'm terrified for the people who are involved still, who still believe this man.
15:40
Speaker A
And I'll show you people if you're listening, please listen.
15:45
Speaker A
I'll show you why you cannot believe him.
15:50
Speaker A
Why it's literally impossible for him to be telling the truth right now.
15:54
Speaker A
He cannot possibly be speaking from God.
15:58
Speaker C
God is blowing his own trumpet.
16:02
Speaker A
All right.
16:03
Speaker A
Let's do the next clip.
16:04
Speaker C
People think I've changed my stance. I have not changed my stance.
16:10
Speaker B
You still stand on what you said.
16:12
Speaker C
Exactly.
16:13
Speaker C
In 2018, in a loud voice, God said to me in a dream, there'll be no.
16:21
Speaker A
I think he's looking at himself in a camera.
16:24
Speaker A
I could be wrong.
16:25
Speaker A
He keeps glancing over to the side.
16:27
Speaker A
He's like, look at me, check me out.
16:30
Speaker A
I look really strong.
16:33
Speaker A
But he goes back to this 2018 thing and he's like, God told me September 23rd.
16:40
Speaker A
24th, that this this would be the day.
16:42
Speaker C
No, welcome 2026.
16:44
Speaker C
I'm going to cut it short.
16:45
Speaker C
Again, there will be no welcome next year.
16:50
Speaker C
Listen to the words that are coming out of my mouth.
16:55
Speaker A
Oh, I'm going to listen.
16:56
Speaker A
We're all going to listen real careful now.
16:58
Speaker A
You're going to hear these words.
17:00
Speaker A
Double down.
17:01
Speaker A
I was not wrong.
17:02
Speaker A
He's going to later say he's not sorry for any hurt he caused people.
17:06
Speaker A
And he is still right about September 23rd.
17:10
Speaker A
Even though it's three days after September 23rd.
17:12
Speaker C
Same year, he appears to me face to face.
17:15
Speaker C
And he says.
17:16
Speaker C
2025 in September of the 23rd and the 24th.
17:23
Speaker C
I will come to take my church.
17:25
Speaker B
Did he come?
17:26
Speaker C
Did he come?
17:27
Speaker B
Yes.
17:28
Speaker A
I will tell you.
17:29
Speaker A
So in 2018.
17:30
Speaker A
This is.
17:31
Speaker A
I told you I was going to laugh.
17:32
Speaker A
It's hilarious.
17:33
Speaker A
Did he come?
17:34
Speaker A
I will tell you.
17:35
Speaker A
Now, seven years ago.
17:36
Speaker A
He drags this on for like half an hour.
17:40
Speaker A
He will not answer the question.
17:41
Speaker A
He's going to he's going to take as long as humanly possible to answer this question.
17:42
Speaker A
He'll talk about all kinds of other things.
17:44
Speaker A
Till he finally gets it out.
17:46
Speaker A
The Ruslan watched this uh this interview and he did a like a live reaction to it.
17:50
Speaker A
And he said it was, I think his words were something like the most insufferable podcast he's ever seen.
17:53
Speaker A
100% agree.
17:54
Speaker A
He was uh it wasn't the twins.
17:56
Speaker A
It was him.
17:57
Speaker A
It was the Joshua.
17:58
Speaker A
It was absolutely insufferable.
18:00
Speaker A
Um, but this is how you double down.
18:05
Speaker A
So you now he's he's bifurcating the audience.
18:10
Speaker A
There's going to be those who are fiercely, fiercely loyal to Joshua. They're super mad at me for even saying these things.
18:20
Speaker A
They're literally thinking, I wonder if Michael will be struck down because of the words he just said about Joshua.
18:26
Speaker A
Because they have such high regard for him now.
18:28
Speaker A
Even though he's only failed, only led people astray, only hurt them and harmed them.
18:33
Speaker A
They have super high regard.
18:35
Speaker A
Others will just be on the same page as me.
18:37
Speaker A
Now, I hope this video will draw some of that small core out.
18:42
Speaker A
And stand as like a video where one day when that core starts to doubt a little bit and they Google something.
18:50
Speaker A
And they go, hey, hey, maybe this video will pop up.
18:52
Speaker A
And you'll go, man, I I should have listened a long time ago.
18:55
Speaker A
I'm out.
18:56
Speaker A
You know, so I'm hoping that will happen.
18:58
Speaker A
But let's continue this to uh this man.
19:00
Speaker A
Who is doesn't care about anybody but himself.
19:02
Speaker A
Does not care about any of you.
19:04
Speaker A
I care about you.
19:05
Speaker A
I don't care about you the way I care about my wife.
19:10
Speaker A
I don't know you.
19:11
Speaker A
Right, but I do care about you. I try to love my neighbor uh as myself.
19:17
Speaker A
And um, you're my distant neighbor, but still, we care.
19:22
Speaker A
You just like most of you would have some amount of care about me.
19:25
Speaker A
Joshua is a unique person.
19:26
Speaker A
He don't care about nobody.
19:28
Speaker C
I received this visitation from him.
19:33
Speaker C
Right?
19:34
Speaker B
Mhm.
19:35
Speaker C
And let me tell you this.
19:40
Speaker C
The last two days of uncomfortable, the 23rd and the 24th.
19:48
Speaker C
I did a live, right?
19:50
Speaker C
Must be on the 23rd.
19:52
Speaker A
He says he did a live.
19:54
Speaker A
He means he did a live stream.
19:56
Speaker A
Was that 12-hour live stream that I reviewed in the video before?
20:00
Speaker A
I'll put that video in the link uh in the description.
20:02
Speaker A
And you guys can check it out.
20:03
Speaker A
It was it was crazy.
20:04
Speaker A
Um, it was revealing.
20:06
Speaker A
But he ain't done.
20:08
Speaker A
And and I guarantee you after October 7th, he's not done.
20:11
Speaker A
Here's I'm like 90% uh convinced that he won't be done.
20:16
Speaker A
Because he's just going to come out with another revelation.
20:21
Speaker A
I'll even tell you how he's going to do it.
20:22
Speaker A
Because I can.
20:23
Speaker A
Yeah, I'll show you.
20:24
Speaker A
You'll see.
20:25
Speaker A
You'll see.
20:26
Speaker A
It's all coming.
20:27
Speaker C
People will watch a lot of things transpired there.
20:31
Speaker C
But the rapture did not happen.
20:33
Speaker C
We're all here.
20:34
Speaker A
Remember he said the rapture did not happen.
20:37
Speaker A
We're all here.
20:38
Speaker A
I feel like that might be important later.
20:40
Speaker A
Because there's like maybe a 40% chance, I'm just guessing here.
20:45
Speaker A
There's a chance that later he's going to say the rapture did happen.
20:50
Speaker A
And he'll reinterpret the meaning of the rapture.
20:53
Speaker A
Because he's running out of options.
20:54
Speaker A
That I can think of.
20:56
Speaker A
Um, but uh, probably an even better chance is what he'll do.
21:00
Speaker A
Is he'll do like another date thing.
21:02
Speaker A
Where he's like, oh, we we we miscalculated the calendars.
21:04
Speaker A
That's why.
21:05
Speaker A
You'll see.
21:06
Speaker A
You'll see.
21:07
Speaker A
Because that's what he's about to do here.
21:09
Speaker C
Yep.
21:10
Speaker A
But where where my words true?
21:14
Speaker A
And let me ask this way.
21:16
Speaker A
Are my words true?
21:18
Speaker A
I want you to see the smug.
21:20
Speaker A
You can see smugness.
21:22
Speaker A
It is it is visibly available to be seen on people.
21:24
Speaker A
Um, as wrong as he is, he's covering it up with as much confidence as possible.
21:30
Speaker A
Okay.
21:31
Speaker A
Because that throws people off.
21:33
Speaker A
How can you be that confident when you're if you really were that wrong?
21:36
Speaker A
Well, it's easy.
21:38
Speaker A
You're a total liar.
21:40
Speaker A
That's how you do it.
21:41
Speaker A
Watch this little like five seconds again.
21:43
Speaker C
Are my words true?
21:45
Speaker A
Actually, let me show them again.
21:46
Speaker A
You can tell they're not buying it.
21:48
Speaker A
This is not his core audience.
21:50
Speaker A
This is just a podcast, uh YouTube channel that brings him on and that is willing to, you know, put his content out there.
21:55
Speaker A
And that's what he needs.
21:56
Speaker A
He needs to get out there again.
21:59
Speaker A
He needs to try to do the damage control and retrieve and recover.
22:01
Speaker A
So, they're not buying it really.
22:03
Speaker A
I don't think at all.
22:04
Speaker A
Um, but by the end, I think they're on the fence a little bit.
22:07
Speaker A
Maybe by the end.
22:09
Speaker A
It's a little difficult to tell.
22:10
Speaker A
They seem like they're on the fence by the end of the podcast.
22:12
Speaker A
And you'll see why.
22:13
Speaker C
Exactly.
22:14
Speaker A
So, you see.
22:15
Speaker A
I was in my house.
22:17
Speaker A
I was in my in in my house.
22:20
Speaker A
And God told me.
22:21
Speaker A
When I asked him about the last two days and he said in days to come.
22:26
Speaker A
I will rapture my church.
22:28
Speaker A
He just he just goal shifted.
22:29
Speaker A
He did exactly the thing that he says he's not doing.
22:31
Speaker A
He he says, oh.
22:32
Speaker A
After the date's passed, I I I had a message from God.
22:35
Speaker A
And the goals shifted.
22:37
Speaker A
It's it's crazy.
22:38
Speaker A
It's crazy.
22:39
Speaker A
If you can't laugh at it, you're in it.
22:40
Speaker A
I am not goal shifting.
22:41
Speaker A
Please, people, do not accuse me of goal shifting.
22:42
Speaker A
That's not what I'm doing.
22:44
Speaker A
In fact, this is final.
22:45
Speaker A
This is final.
22:46
Speaker A
Literally the same exact word for word statement he said about September 23rd.
22:50
Speaker A
In the previous month, in September.
22:52
Speaker A
That's he gets this is final.
22:53
Speaker A
There will never be another date.
22:55
Speaker A
He said, there will never be another date.
22:57
Speaker A
And then he says, now this, this is final.
23:00
Speaker A
This is final.
23:02
Speaker A
I'm a billion percent again.
23:04
Speaker A
A billion percent.
23:05
Speaker A
Well, it's okay, guys.
23:07
Speaker A
Don't worry.
23:08
Speaker A
Don't worry.
23:09
Speaker A
Because today, now, as of September 26th.
23:12
Speaker A
He has let us know that he is 1 billion percent.
23:15
Speaker A
All right, what else did he say here?
23:17
Speaker A
Let's see.
23:18
Speaker A
Am I am I catching the right spot?
23:20
Speaker C
So I've sent you a video.
23:22
Speaker A
Oh, okay.
23:23
Speaker A
No, I already did that.
23:24
Speaker A
I already did that.
23:25
Speaker A
Okay.
23:26
Speaker A
That's.
23:27
Speaker A
So we want to go right here.
23:28
Speaker C
He says.
23:29
Speaker C
I think Joshua, when he had the date, he delivered, he delivered it the way it is.
23:36
Speaker C
But he didn't understand that God was not talking about our current Gregorian calendar.
23:40
Speaker C
But he was talking about the Julian calendar that Jesus was being used when Jesus was walking on the earth.
23:46
Speaker C
Okay.
23:47
Speaker A
Does he know?
23:48
Speaker A
Because he changed his terms there.
23:49
Speaker A
He was about to say that Jesus used, but Jesus wasn't using it.
23:53
Speaker A
He was using a Hebrew calendar for for the dates.
23:55
Speaker A
The Jewish dates are Hebrew calendar.
23:56
Speaker A
It's nothing to do with Julian.
23:57
Speaker A
Um, so he actually changed it.
24:00
Speaker A
Did you catch himself?
24:01
Speaker A
Does he know?
24:02
Speaker A
That the Jewish calendar is not they use new moons.
24:08
Speaker A
Guess what October 6th and 7th is.
24:10
Speaker A
It's a full moon.
24:12
Speaker A
Like there's no way on earth the Feast of Trumpets is on a full moon.
24:14
Speaker A
It's not possible.
24:15
Speaker A
New moon.
24:16
Speaker A
New moon.
24:17
Speaker A
That's that's what scripture says.
24:18
Speaker A
You will on the new moon, you will blow the the.
24:21
Speaker A
Let me show you the scripture.
24:22
Speaker A
I will show it to you.
24:23
Speaker A
Right here.
24:24
Speaker A
Then the Lord spoke to Moses saying, speak to the people of Israel, saying, in the seventh month.
24:30
Speaker A
On the first day of the month, you shall observe a day of solemn rest.
24:36
Speaker A
A memorial proclaimed with blast of trumpets, a holy convocation.
24:40
Speaker A
You shall not do any ordinary work and you shall present a food offering to the Lord.
24:44
Speaker A
The only way you can get around this is you actually say that the Jews themselves.
24:49
Speaker A
And the Bible are misrepresenting and the Bible are misrepresenting when the actual months begin.
24:55
Speaker A
And when the feast days start.
24:58
Speaker A
You have to postulate and they're actually postulating this.
25:02
Speaker A
They're actually saying this.
25:03
Speaker A
You have to actually say that the beginning of the the feasts and of excuse me, the Feast of Trumpets.
25:09
Speaker A
And the new moons or the beginning of a month in Israel is on an eclipse.
25:15
Speaker A
Instead of being on the new moon where the first sliver of the moon shows up.
25:20
Speaker A
It's it's insanity.
25:21
Speaker A
To be like, I'm going to I'm going to literally rewrite the Bible.
25:22
Speaker A
In order to defend this prophet who came out of nowhere.
25:27
Speaker A
The only explanation I have is, you are caught in major spiritual deception.
25:30
Speaker A
Now, you might be thinking, but Mike, I received a lot of encouragement from this rapture prediction.
25:33
Speaker A
And I thought I had all these confirmations from God.
25:37
Speaker A
And I thought I felt the presence of God, the spirit of God confirming it to me.
25:40
Speaker A
Can I remind you what scripture says?
25:42
Speaker A
Because we are fallible beings.
25:44
Speaker A
We can be easily led astray.
25:45
Speaker A
It says that Satan disguises himself as what?
25:48
Speaker A
An angel of light.
25:50
Speaker A
Or his messengers.
25:51
Speaker A
Disguise disguise as angels of light.
25:53
Speaker A
That is exactly what he does professionally.
25:59
Speaker A
He imitates the divine.
26:00
Speaker A
He imitates God.
26:01
Speaker A
When his great antichrist arises, what is he?
26:05
Speaker A
He's he's an antichrist.
26:07
Speaker A
He's not just against Christ.
26:08
Speaker A
He's a replacement for Christ.
26:09
Speaker A
He's going to try to look as much like Jesus as he can.
26:12
Speaker A
He's going to try to sound as much like the Holy Spirit as he can.
26:14
Speaker A
All right.
26:15
Speaker A
Let's listen to more.
26:16
Speaker C
Was being used when Jesus was walking on the earth.
26:19
Speaker C
The people of the world will be surprised.
26:22
Speaker C
The rapture is still on, people.
26:25
Speaker A
No, bro.
26:26
Speaker A
No.
26:27
Speaker A
Someone who apologizes is someone who is admitting they were wrong.
26:30
Speaker A
This is in response to the question of will he apologize to people?
26:31
Speaker A
Will he say he's sorry to the people he misled?
26:34
Speaker A
And he goes, well, then I would be admitting I was wrong.
26:36
Speaker A
He hates you.
26:38
Speaker A
Joshua followers, he hates you.
26:40
Speaker A
He doesn't care about you.
26:41
Speaker A
It's the worst kind of depraved indifference.
26:44
Speaker A
You're just a tool for his own pleasure.
26:46
Speaker A
You're NPCs in a video game he's playing.
26:48
Speaker A
The mockers, the scoffers, let them mock, let them scoff.
26:52
Speaker A
And I want to say something to those who mock and scoff.
26:54
Speaker A
Let me say something about this mocking and scoffing thing.
26:56
Speaker A
I've heard that phrase mocker and scoffer repeated ad nauseum throughout the videos of all these people supporting Joshua.
27:00
Speaker A
Mocking is not always bad.
27:02
Speaker A
And scoffing is not always bad.
27:04
Speaker A
God actually mocks people.
27:06
Speaker A
Elijah mocks people.
27:08
Speaker A
We should scoff at things that are scoff worthy.
27:12
Speaker A
And we should mock things that are mock worthy.
27:14
Speaker A
That is actually appropriate.
27:15
Speaker A
This guy's mock worthy.
27:17
Speaker A
He is an actual dumb fake prophet.
27:20
Speaker A
Like that's that's those are facts.
27:22
Speaker A
That's what he actually is.
27:23
Speaker A
Um, and that he should be mocked and laughed.
27:25
Speaker A
Because it disempowers him.
27:26
Speaker A
That's appropriate.
27:27
Speaker A
Elijah mocked the prophets of Baal.
27:30
Speaker A
Because they deserved it.
27:31
Speaker A
They were like trying to do their offering and get the their God to answer by fire and Elijah mocked them.
27:38
Speaker A
And he goes, maybe he's in the bathroom.
27:39
Speaker A
Maybe you should yell a little louder and he can't hear you because he's going poo poo.
27:43
Speaker A
He's mocking them.
27:44
Speaker A
Okay.
27:45
Speaker A
That's not always bad.
27:46
Speaker A
I sleep in peace.
27:47
Speaker A
Mocking and scoffing makes us absolutely nothing.
27:50
Speaker A
I mean, I don't believe it does nothing.
27:52
Speaker A
I do believe he sleeps in peace.
27:54
Speaker A
But I think it's because he's basically a sociopath.
27:56
Speaker B
Can I ask about the dates?
27:58
Speaker C
Yes.
27:59
Speaker B
Is it physical or spiritual dates?
28:01
Speaker C
No, no, no, physical.
28:02
Speaker B
So these are days, like literally, it's not going to be like a day.
28:06
Speaker B
To the Lord means, you know, a thousand years.
28:08
Speaker C
No, no, no, it's it's literal days.
28:10
Speaker B
A literal day.
28:11
Speaker C
Okay.
28:12
Speaker A
He has no way out of this.
28:13
Speaker A
Now, this is where I think that Joshua is not very forward thinking.
28:15
Speaker A
This is one of the reasons why I say he's actually an unintelligent man.
28:18
Speaker A
Okay, there's plenty of unintelligent men out there who are noble and godly and wonderful men.
28:22
Speaker A
Joshua is an unintelligent liar, deceiver, satanic tool.
28:26
Speaker A
Um, but this guy.
28:28
Speaker A
He doesn't think beyond the moment so much.
28:31
Speaker A
He couldn't even come up with his own excuse for why the rapture was failing.
28:36
Speaker A
He couldn't do it on the live stream.
28:38
Speaker A
With the trumpet blast of Israel passed.
28:40
Speaker A
And he didn't know what to say.
28:41
Speaker A
And somebody else said, maybe it was God has his own trumpet.
28:44
Speaker A
That's not connected to Israel blowing the trumpet.
28:47
Speaker A
And he went, yes.
28:48
Speaker A
And he jumped on it like that.
28:49
Speaker A
God's trumpet.
28:50
Speaker A
He borrows from everybody.
28:52
Speaker A
All the arguments he gets for his rapture views, he borrows them from other people.
28:56
Speaker A
He puts it out there.
28:58
Speaker A
Then other people defend him.
28:59
Speaker A
He watches their videos and he repeats what they say.
29:00
Speaker A
He's a copier.
29:01
Speaker A
He's not he doesn't originate things.
29:02
Speaker A
This theory is not originated.
29:03
Speaker A
And that's why it's it's a reckless theory.
29:06
Speaker A
He only has a few days now.
29:07
Speaker A
Till October 7th and 8th.
29:08
Speaker A
He means 6th and 7th.
29:09
Speaker A
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
29:10
Speaker A
Anyway.
29:11
Speaker A
I'm a billion percent.
29:12
Speaker A
Again.
29:13
Speaker A
Like he was a billion percent before.
29:15
Speaker A
October 6th and 7th.
29:17
Speaker A
Let's see.
29:18
Speaker A
Today's the uh 27th of September.
29:19
Speaker A
I will probably get this video uploaded today.
29:22
Speaker A
I'll just put it up right away.
29:23
Speaker A
There's a lot of other stuff going on.
29:25
Speaker A
I want to get up a video on the Charlie Kirk Memorial Service.
29:28
Speaker A
And kind of intersection of faith and politics that I'm I'm not even sure of.
29:32
Speaker A
L what to think about.
29:33
Speaker A
Um, but I think that we need a correction.
29:37
Speaker A
In the direction of Christians doing more political advocacy.
29:40
Speaker A
So anyways, I'll deal with that.
29:41
Speaker A
As soon as I can get it done, I'll get it done.
29:43
Speaker A
Um, but this rapture stuff is so present.
29:46
Speaker A
It's right now.
29:47
Speaker A
Here he is.
29:48
Speaker A
Fake prophet, Joshua.
29:50
Speaker A
Scumbag of 2025.
29:52
Speaker A
He's a billion percent.
29:54
Speaker A
A billion percent.
29:55
Speaker A
So my encouragement to you.
29:57
Speaker A
Mark him.
29:58
Speaker A
Avoid him.
29:59
Speaker A
Learn the lessons.
30:00
Speaker A
If you fell for it, don't you dare despair.
30:02
Speaker A
Feel bad.
30:04
Speaker A
Feel terribly bad that you fell for it.
30:06
Speaker A
And realize that the grace of Christ is there for you.
30:10
Speaker A
Get back up.
30:11
Speaker A
Go back to church.
30:12
Speaker A
Because many of you are isolated.
30:15
Speaker A
Many of his victims don't even aren't really part of deeply connected to any fellowships.
30:18
Speaker A
Get back.
30:19
Speaker A
Get involved.
30:20
Speaker A
Ask for help.
30:21
Speaker A
Ask your leaders to help you process what happened.
30:23
Speaker A
And learn the lessons.
30:24
Speaker A
And learn to stop saying setting dates.
30:27
Speaker A
And to stop pulling out your calculator to figure those things out.
30:30
Speaker A
We we're just to be ready at all times.
30:32
Speaker A
Not to be predicting over and over and over again.
30:34
Speaker A
This has been a public service announcement.
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What was Joshua Mhlakela's original rapture prediction date?

Joshua Mhlakela predicted the rapture would occur on September 23rd and 24th, which did not happen.

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Mike Winger describes Joshua as egotistical, manipulative, and spiritually unstable, warning he may be starting a new cult.

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