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Our guest on this week's episode is someone that I really don't know much about. I started following him on Twitter fairly recently because he caught my attention for a lot of his takes in the space. You can follow him on Twitter, @MrPeanutButter, Mr. Peanut Butter. Mike joins us on Circles Off this week. Mike, how's it going?

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Uh, good. Happy to be on, Rob. This is one of my favorite shows, so, uh, bless to be on.

been, following, circles, off, for, a, long time, and, we, are, synonymous, with, being this, Sharp, brand, we've, talked, about stuff, on, how, to, beat, the, books, before but, if, you're, someone, that, just, wants, to take, it, easy, wants, to, sit, back, have, some

You don't have to butter me up in the early going or anything like that. It's totally fine.

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Wow. Yeah, I was hoping. I know you're a hard-hitting journalist, so I was just trying to get you on my side here for these hard-hitting questions later.

space, you, can, follow, him, on, Twitter mrmr, panut, better, Mr, Peanut, better, Mike joins, us, on, circles, off, this, week, Mike how's, it going, uh, good, happy, to, be, on, Rob, this one, of, my, favorite, shows, so, uh, bless, to

Yes, absolutely. Uh, great strategy in the early going.

these, hard-hitting, questions, later, yes absolutely, uh, great, strategy, in, the early, going, um, okay, so, I, first, came across, you, um, and, I, thought, your, account was, really, interesting, both, in, the, sense that, it, was, funny, uh, a, lot, of, your

Um, okay. So I first came across you, um, and I thought your account was really interesting, both in the sense that it was funny. Uh, a lot of your tweets resonated with me. You've built up kind of this reputation in the sharper side of gambling Twitter over the past year, maybe a little bit more than that, but I don't think uh, anyone really knows how you got started in the space. Um, so if you can, what's your background in sports betting? How did you get involved?

um, so, if, you, can, what's, your, background in, sports, betting, how, did, you, get involved, yeah, I, think, um, I, one, thing that, probably, is, surprising, to, some people, I, haven't, been, betting, for, that long, I'm, pretty, new, to, the, space, um

Yeah, I think, um, one thing that probably is surprising to some people is I haven't been betting for that long. I'm pretty new to the space. Um, really started betting only seriously, or I guess being in the industry, as you know, some people would say, um, in regards to GRP. But, uh, only started doing that about three years ago. Uh, I started as a trader. Um, before that, I was betting casually, but nothing that was certainly profitable. Definitely was minus EV, definitely was down all that. Um, but really wasn't doing it seriously at all. So basically everything, um, that I have kind of experienced as a bettor has been within the past three years. So I would say that's, you know, kind of probably why you haven't heard of me in any regards or anything like that. So pretty new to this space, um, but yeah.

Trader, um, before, that, I, was, betting casually, but, nothing, that, was, certainly profitable, definitely, was, minus, EV definitely, was, down, all, that, um, but really, wasn't, doing, it, seriously, at, all so, basically, everything, um, that, I, have kind, of, experienced, as, a, better, has, been

Uh, prior to becoming a trader, um, what were you doing, like, and what made you want to apply for a trading position somewhere?

prior, to, becoming, a, Trader, um, what, were you, doing, like, and, like, what, made, you want, to, apply, for, a, trading, position somewhere, yeah, absolutely, so, I, was, an actuary, um, I, wouldn't, say, I, was, happy, at my, job, necessarily, I, was, um, you, know

Yeah, absolutely. So I was an actuary. Um, I wouldn't say I was happy at my job necessarily. I was, um, you know, growing up I always wanted to work in sports, but really didn't find a path that I thought suited my skill set. So I was an actuary full-time, and then on the side I was doing some content stuff, uh, writing for a few places, um, doing stuff like that. And I basically was doing that with the hopes of maybe getting into sports more seriously, uh, kind of through the back door. Um, and then when I was doing that, I got promoted. Uh, you know that meme where it's like, oh, I accidentally became important? Work, that kind of happened to me, where I, uh, they started a new role and they actually put me in it. So I was starting this new job, um, and then within six months of that, I was like, okay, this is doing too much. Trying to do the sports content with it, I gave up on the sports thought. All right, right now it is what it is. I just, I'm, it wasn't meant to be. I'm not going to work in sports. Uh, after working there for a little bit, I got offered a new job. And actually, um, during the week off between jobs, I happened to just read, uh, the book Logic of Sports Betting. Yep. And in it, they mention, uh, you know there's these people called traders, where I think he describes them as an army of nerds, uh, in regards to sports. I was like, well, you know, I'm pretty good at math, I love sports. Let's see if, uh, I could apply to one of these places just during my week off. And then while I was actually at my new job, training, I flew down to their headquarters. They flew me out. Everything. I interviewed for my sports trading position, and they were like, hey, how would you like a job with way less money, way less stability? And I was in. So, um, immediately gave up the actuary career, uh, and then became a trader.

writing, for, a, few, places, um, doing, stuff like, that, and, I, basically, was, doing, that with, the, hopes, of, maybe, getting, into sports, more, seriously, uh, kind, of, through the, back, door, um, and, then, when, I, was doing, that, I, got, promoted, uh, you, know

Really interesting background. Um, definitely. I think I can say without question you're the most liked actuary in gambling Twitter, uh, right now.

months, of, that, I, was, like, okay, this, is doing, too, much, trying, to, do, the, sports content, with, it, gave, up, on, the, sports thought, all, right, now, it, is, what, it, is, I just, I'm, it, wasn't, meant, to, be, I'm, not

Yeah, that's, I mean, that's a pretty low bar. That's like being the skinniest kid at fat camp, you know? It's not necessarily a very social group. So, uh, I would say that I definitely was probably a little bit louder, a little bit more demonstrative than a lot of my classmates. So yeah, that makes sense.

and, in, it, they, mention, uh, you, know there's, these, people, called, Traders where, I, think, he, describes, them, as, an army, of, nerds, uh, in, regards, to, sports, I was, like, well, you, know, I'm, pretty, good at, math, I, love, sports, let's, see, if, uh, I

Uh, when you were doing your, when you were working in your trading position, at what point did uh, potentially leaving that to bet on sports become a reality for you?

like, hey, how, would, you, like, a, job, way less, money, way, less, stability, and, I, was in, so, um, immediately, gave, up, the, ACT career, uh, and, then, became, a, Trader really, interesting, background, um definitely, I, I, I, think, I, can, say, without

Yeah. So when I first started, uh, there was a rule at the company that traders weren't suppos

would, say, that, I, definitely, was, probably a, little, bit, louder, a, little, bit, more demonst, than, a, lot, of, my, classmates, so yeah, that, makes, sense, uh, when, you, were doing, your, when, you, were, working, in, in your, trading, position, at, what, point, did

uh, potentially, leaving, that, to, bet, on Sports, become, a, reality, for you, yeah, so, when, I, first, started, uh there, was, a, a, rule, at, the, company, that Traders, weren't, supposed, to, bet, um, and, I I, mean, I, flew, out, to, Vegas, I, wasn't

betting, seriously, before, that, so, it wasn't, a, big, deal, I, was, going, to, follow the, rules, like, everyone, and, then, soon, I got, there, and, realized, that, everybody was, actually, betting, you, know, follow, the rules, at, first, then, you, realize

everybody, else, is, betting, um, so, I, mean early, on, I, was, just, kind, of, picking, my spots, and, spots, where, I, was, like, oh, you know, this, is, undervalued, or, very selective, about, my, betting, process obviously, wasn't, scale, um, but, you, know

maybe, a, little, bit, arrogant, but, like, a few, months, in, I, was, like, okay, I, can, at least, make, a, side, hustle, of, this, I, can at, least, make, some, side, income, betting in, small, spots, while, I'm, trading, um, and

then, I, was, you, know, it's, one, of, those things, where, you, start, betting, small start, betting, like, these, specific situations, and, then, eventually, you, end up, where, you're, just, betting, all, the time, right, now, a, lot, of, uh, betters, come

from, from, obviously, different backgrounds, uh, because, you, are, an actuary, I'm, automatically, assuming, that that, math, and, modeling, were, kind, of, the route, that, you, took, in, the, early, going of, betting, is, that, a, fair, assumption yeah, I, would, say, it's, probably, a, little

bit, more, basic, math, than, a, a, lot, of people, would, suspect, it, wasn't, anything that, necessarily, I, needed, an, Actuarial degree, in, order, to, do, uh, you, know, just there, there, are, things, that, I, now because, I, think, I, at, least, have, the

background, to, have, um, I, kind, of, pick, it up, easier, I, would, say, if, I'm, learning, it but, a, lot, of, it, I'm, relearning, myself, or kind, of, teaching, myself, looking, at different, things, um, I, I, would, say, that

the, math, aspect, or, the, actal, aspect, of what, I'm, doing, modeling, is, often, times you, know, a, little, bit, overrated, it's, not like, it's, exactly, Apples, to, Apples, but obviously, there's, some, overlap, and, you know, just, having, a, familiar, math

background, I, think, helps, yeah, that's interesting, um, just, curious, because, you mentioned, that, the, math, is, a, lot, more basic, than, maybe, a, lot, of, people, would realize, what, kind, of, markets, were, you going, after, in, the, early

going, so, really, early, on, I, betting, you know, more, main, three, but, I, was, just betting, it, in, very, like, once, every couple, weeks, or, things, like, that, um where, I, thought, I, you, know, particularly had, good, Insight, I, I, would, say, in

general, um, kind, of, most, of, my, betting starts, where, I, think, something, is, pretty hard, to, price, in, that, there's, a, lot, of uncertainty, there's, a, lot, of, like, I don't, know, you're, kind, of, just, throwing a, number, at, it, and, guessing, um, so, that's

really, where, almost, all, my, models, start with, me, thinking, this, particular, spot, is really, hard, to, price, how, do, they, do, it and, then, I, put, together, a, hack, you, know guess, on, it, basically, and, then, from there, you, just, kind, of, stop, and, refine

and, refine, and, refine, until, eventually you, have, kind, of, a, full, workking, model um, but, mostly, I, would, say, that, I, was trying, to, I, kind, of, let, the, market decide, what, I, was, going, to, attack, first I, was, trying, to, get, stuff, that, I, thought

was, either, priced, poorly, or, very, weird circumstances, that, I, thought, I, can, model this, quickly, with, a, guess, of, a, number here, and, try, to, do, it, that, way, yeah, that makes, a, lot, of, sense, now, I, I, have, a, lot

of, friends, who, um, either, are, Traders, now or, have, been, Traders, before, uh, I've obviously, worked, on, the, other, side, of the, counter, before, as, uh, many, of, our listeners, would, would, know, as, well, um, a lot, of, my, friends, that, are, Traders, they

they, speak, of, sort, of, a, life, experience or, story, where, just, by, virtue, of, being, a Trader, and, being, able, to, see, what, other sharp, betters, were, betting, they basically, had, like, the, gears, going, in their, head, of, like, I, can, do, this, as, well

how, much, of, how, much, of, your, journey into, being, a, sports, better, was, came, from your, ability, to, see, action, on, the, other side, of, the counter, yeah, I, think, it, was, helpful, and particularly, seeing, that, just, the

different, types, of, betters, that, you, kind of, get, to, watch, if, bets, come, in, you, see oh, this, guy, he, loves, betting, this, spot particularly, and, I, guess, since, that's something, that, was, already, kind, of gravit, gravitating, towards, anyways, I

thought, that, like, for, example, we, had, a guy, who, if, you, uh, saw, his, last, name, he was, a, weatherman, and, he, literally, bet, in bad, weather, situations, and, held, a, huge percentage, just, betting, in, weather, so kind, of, seeing, the, different, ways, people

approach, different, situations, I, think was, really, helpful, into, seeing, okay, like where, do, you, not, want, to, take, a, bet often, times, you, know, as, a, Trader, when you, see, a, bet, come, in, you, can, often times, tell, oh, you, know, I, didn't, want, to

take, this, right, here, obviously, is, the better, you, want, to, be, that, person, who's lighting, it, up, and, they're, like, oh, why didn't, I, allow, that, yeah, I, love, that, uh I, did, an, episode, it, was, the, last, episode

that, Johnny, did, with, me, at, the, end, of 2024, where, uh, we, click, baited, the, title of, like, here's, what, you, need, to, do, to win, in, 2025, but, part, of, that, episode, was about, like, figuring, out, what, your, Edge

is, find, your, Edge, as, a, better, and, like the, weather, example, Rings, true, is someone, who, who, might, not, have, had, any sports, knowledge, but, their, Edge, was, just being, able, to, get, down, before, other people, did, on, weather, situations, and

that, in, of, itself, is, enough, to, often times, uh, you, know, be, very, worthwhile, so I, appreciate, you, sharing, that, um, story Mike, um, curious, what, are, you, betting mostly nowadays, yeah, so, I, I'm, kind, of, betting at, least, in, some, capacity, year, round, um

busiest, season, is, probably, college football, is, the, highest, um, you, know volume, in, terms, of, probably, dollars, uh busiest, in, terms, of, every, day, there's something, is, NBA, I, bet, NBA, props, um, from college, football, right, into, NBA, props, um

and, then, you, know, I, I've, been, betting UFL, lately, and, I'll, pick, up, on, some, of these, kind, of, weirder, small, Sports, um kind, of, situations, like, that, I, bet, some unrivaled, even, this, year, um, basically anything, where, there's, not, a, lot, of, data

I, think, I, do, a, pretty, good, job, of estimating, you, know, either, where, there's some, data, but, not, a, ton, where, I, can, kind of, estimate, a, number, decide, how, much, to bring, it, back, or, how, much, is, this, real, I

those, kind, of, situations, where, it's, kind of, a, mix, of, subjective, and, a, little, bit of, math, I, think, that's, kind, of, the, area I, thrive, in, and, it, also, helps, it, those are, lower, limit, markets, where, I, don't

have, to, compete, against, the, three, you know, legitimate, better, so, I, like, the hang, on, those, kind, of, markets, too, so yeah, I, want, I, want, to, dig, in, a, little bit, on, uh, probably, college, football, and NBA

um, let's, start, with, college, football, I know, it's, offseason, right, now, but, uh Curious, what, a, a, typical, college football, betting, week, looks, like, for, you um, are, you, betting, mostly, early, in, the week, later, in, the, week, do, you, do, live

are, there, props, involved, what, what, is betting, college, football, Encompass, for you, surprising, you, didn't, want, to, go with, the, UFL, or, WNBA, content, in, that went, with, college, football, but, um, yeah yeah, uh, for, college, it's, been, a, little

bit, different, year, by, year, just, um, as, my bank, rolls, growed, uh, before, I, was, able to, bet, a, lot, on, Sundays, and, now obviously, I, want, to, wait, a, little, bit more, um, but, with, that, you, obviously, find

ways, to, get, down, that, are, a, little, bit different, which, is, helpful, um, but, last year, I, guess, probably, just, the, easiest way, is, just, to, look, at, last, year, I, was betting, uh, I, would, bet, sides, usually, uh

Tuesday, um, totals, on Wednesday, you, know, obviously, if something's, moving, or, if, I, think, that there's, a, certain, spot, you'll, go, before that, but, trying, in, general, um, Tuesday and, Wednesday, is, where, I, could, get, you know, a, fullfill, of, what, I, wanted, uh, for

each, market, there, um, through, different means, and, then, later, in, the, week, betting some, derivative, stuff, I, did, the, first halfes, first, quarters, um, and, then, some SGP, stuff, I, added, in, kind, of, by, accident halfway, through, the, halfway, through, the

season, I, had, some, movers, that, I, was talking, to, I, was, betting, one, kind, of prop, and, they're, like, you, know, could, you make, it, actually, an, SGP, of, something that's, kind, of, related, and, just, kind, of iterated, on, the, Fly, and, did, that, so

that's, help, that, was, uh, helpful, and, kind of, a, new, area, I, think, these, scps, are pretty, beatable, I, obviously, everybody who's, betting, seriously, is, starting, to look, into, these, I'm, not, it's, not, like, a novel, concept, but, I, think, that, if, you

can, take, something, that, you, already, had and, try, to, kind, of, jam, it, into, that, way a, lot, of, times, there's, edgs, to, be, found there, yeah, to, be, clear, I, asked, you, about college, football, instead, of, UFL, cuz

there's, probably, about, seven, people betting, UFL, and, I, feel, like, you're, going to, really, give, away, an, edge, or, something if, I, if, I, dig, deep, onto, that, yeah, just me, and, Dez, are, probably, the, two, people that, I, know, that, ask, really, about

consistently, so, and, I, mean, that, it's probably, not, even, the, smallest, bit, of his, attention, but, yeah, so, that's, an interesting, and, then, you, know, W, to, so that's, another, interesting, sport, for everyone, um, we've, exchanged, a, few, DMS

over, the, last, year, or, so, nothing, crazy but, you, did, mention, to, me, that, um, you, do some, halftime, betting, in, college football, now, listening, to, you, talk, now you're, talking, about, how, you're, betting first, halves, um, curious, were, like, are

you, also, doing, a, bunch, of, second, half stuff, or, or, is, all, of, the, Der, derivative betting, coming pregame, I'm, betting, some, second, half spots, usually, uh, if, I'm, betting, on, a Saturday, live, I'm, trying, to, Target things, that, happened, in, the, game, that, I

think, might, not, necessarily, be, priced, um you, know, for, the, rest, of, the, game, as well, as, would, be, for, example, if, you, have a, game, that's, one, of, the, if, it's, say it's, the, 15th, most, important, game, on

Saturday, and, a, college, quarterback, goes down, there's, no, data, on, that, backup quarterback, it, can, vary, wildly, from, this guy, was, competing, for, the, job, in, the spring, and, he, was, basically, right, on, the guy's, ass, so, he, was, you, know, there's, no

downgrade, at, all, or, it, could, be, a, kid, I mean, I, remember, the, one, year, the Oklahoma, State, quarterback, came, in, and he, was, so, nervous, his, hand, was, trembling and, you, can, see, them, like, I, mean, so, the

Gap, in, these, quarterbacks, that, come, in, a lot, of, times, through, injury, or, sometimes it, could, be, a, team, has, decided, to, slow the, pace, down, for, the, first, half, because they, want, to, get, out, of, there, and, not

get, beat, by, more, than, 50, if, it's, a, huge spread, game, kind, of, things, that, are happening, live, that, I, think, might, not necessarily, get, PR, pred, in, until, the second, half, and, it, probably, is, at, the end, of, the, half, but, I, think, a, lot, of

times, you, know, early, or, if, you're betting, it, live, it's, it's, a, little, bit scarier, because, it's, hard, to, really model, things, you, know, unless, you're, very good, which, I'm, not, it's, hard, to, model anything, live, is, because, Sports, folks, do

uh, but, you, kind, of, had, to, be directionally, correct, there, and, kind, of know, where, the, price, should approximately, be, just, by, know, almost rest, all, right, so, so, on, that, topic, are are, you, preparing, for, this, beforehand

let, like, as, an, example, would, you, have, I don't, know, what, is, it, 120, roughly college, football, teams, and, and, know, a rough, a, difference, between, quarterback and, backup, is, that, something, that happens, on, the, Fly, um, is, it, field-based

like, walk, me, through, what, what, you, do, in those scenarios, yeah, I, mean, ideally, a, lot, more of, it, would, be, prepped, ahead, of, time, I think, that, mostly, was, just, a, bandwidth thing, where, a, lot, of, times, I'm, kind, of

seeing, something, happen, uh, being, like okay, what's, going, on, here, and, if, there's enough, time, trying, to, react, mostly before, uh, or, during, the, half, time, I think, during, the, halftime, is, when, kind of, the, lines, get, cleaned, up, and, shape

put, into, place, by, betters, who, know, what they're, doing, um, but, when, there's, live, I mean, obviously, there's, people, betting into, those, live, markets, and, it's, not completely, inefficient, but, it's certainly, not, as, efficient, as, halftime as, the, people, who, have, you, know

developed, models, over, years, and, are betting, with, higher, limits, when, it, comes on, so, a, lot, of, times, what, I'm, doing, is kind, of, scrambling, but, I, think, that ideally, you, would, like, to, go, in, with, a list, every, Saturday, of, okay, here's

things, that, we, could, be, watching, and obviously, you, can, scramble, depending, on what, happens, you'll, never, be, able, to prep, for, every, situation, but, ideally, I would, like, to, prep, but, we're, not, there yet, uh, I'd, like, on, that, injury, news

front, I'd, like, to, explore, that, a, little bit, further, but, maybe, more, so, in, the pregame, capacity, where, nowadays, um there's, so, much, college, football, injury new, in, I'll, call, it, news, in, quotations that's, available, and, the, reason, I, say

that, is, because, I'm, not, sure, how, often this, stuff, is, already, priced, into markets, beforehand, with, people, who, know how, accurate, the, reporting, is, I, talk, to many, people, who, bet, college, football they, all, give, me, very, different

perspectives, on, you, know, whether, or, not this, injury, news, has, has, meaningfully changed, the, market, as, a, whole, how, do, you view, um, you, know, the, the, increase, of widely, available, information, in, the, last couple, years, in, the, college, football

betting Market, ye, yeah, it's, tough, to, know, what's already, priced, in, what's, been, leaked, out with, Pros, I, feel, it's, it's, so, much, more a, standard, and, cookie, cutter, that, you kind, of, know, uh, one, you, know, you, can

tell, the, lines, are, so, much, more efficient, um, you, can, kind, of, tell, if it's, been, priced, in, or, not, for, college lines, might, move, pretty, late, in, the, week and, it's, it's, unclear, if, it's, because, of the, injury, news, or, if, it's, because, of

something, else, completely, um, you, know, I I'm, not, well, connected, enough, to, have any, kind, of, inside, information, or anything, like, that, so, I'm, basically Flying, Blind, a, lot, of, times, and, betting earlier, in, the, week, removes, some, of, that

you, know, you're, speculating, on, a, lot, of it, but, you're, not, how, much, is, really priced, in, on, a, Monday, or, Tuesday, you know, you, can't, know, if, that, guy's, going to, be, ready, Beyond, whether, you, already knew, was, out, uh, live, from, the, game

before, so, I, think, a, lot, of, times, you're kind, of, projecting, injuries, um, and, I think, in, college, a, lot, of, times, if, it's not, the, quarterback, I, don't, know, it's really, quarterback, and, cluster, injuries are, the, two, things, you, have, to, be

worried, about, at, least, in, my, opinion college, football, because, the, backup, for the, best, teams, like, you, know, the, backup for, Ohio, State, is, going, to, be, coming, in he's, going, to, be, a, five-star, recruit who's, also, super, talented, so, the, guy

that, goes, out, is, being, replaced, by someone, with, equal, Talent, a, lot, of, times it's, because, these, schools, are, so, much in, talent, I, think, that, the, backup, you know, there's, a, big, gap, between, Justin Jefferson, and, his, backup, compared, to

average, NFL, wide, receiver, in, his, backup Ohio, State's, star, wide, receiver, in, their backup, the, gap, between, that, and, Bowling Green, and, their, backup, is, this, kind, of the, same, so, maybe, I, didn't, do, a, big, job of, explaining, that, there, but, I, think, uh

it, kind, of, sorts, itself, out, except, for you, know, clusters, and, QBs, yeah, so, I, I, I get, what, you're, getting, at, and, and nowadays, when, I'm, talking, about, the, you know, the, prevalence, of, injury information, in, the, market, there's, feed

Underdog, has, great, feeds, for, for, all, the major, sports, um, seen, unabated, get involved, recently, with, college, football news, as, well, and, I've, always, wondered because, each, sport, is, different, I, see this, a, lot, in, the, hockey, market, and, and

again, we're, we're, very, different, betters I'm, I'm, big, on, hockey, but, I'll, often, see like, some, sort, of, injury, information that, comes, out, on, one, of, these, feeds, and the, market, immediately, gets, hit, to, the other, side, and, and, I'm, sitting, there, and

I'm, like, well, this, is, actually insignificant, altogether, in, some, cases it, it's, actually, proba, you, know, it, could be, good, that, this, player, is, out, of, the lineup, um, yet, there, seems, to, be, like this, abundance, of, reaction, to, injury

news, and, I, always, wondered, about, the college, market, for, the, reasons, that, you mentioned, right, like, is, a, a, random, Edge rusher, on, you, know, Alabama, for, example um, going, to, be, the, equivalent, of, an, edge rusher, on, to, lane, or, something, like, that

and, how, are, people, processing, that, in real, time, basically yeah, for, college, it's, a, little, bit different, because, the, information, seems to, kind, of, trickle, out, more, than, it, does just, blasted, like, like, you, know, when I've, bet, NBA, too, it's, Underdog, when

Underdog, tweets, it, you, just, see, the screen, so, you, can, see, exactly, the, impact of, what's, Happening, um, you, know sometimes, you, can, get, people, tweeting like, uh, hints, other, beat, reporters, and stuff, like, that, but, for, college, it, it

seems, like, it's, largely, getting, leaked into, the, information, somehow, um, and, then also, I, just, don't, think, the, moves, are, as big, uh, like, you, said, I, think, because it's, unless, it's, a, real, star, player, for a, smaller, School, usually, the, backups, for

these, uh, top, level, schools, where, all, the best, players, are, are, so, much, better, than the, competition, they're, playing, anyways it, you, know, how much, how, much, of, a, difference, does, it make, if, you're, going, from, a, 90, rated

player, if, you're, talking, like, old, Madden ratings, if, you, go, from, 90, versus, 70, to uh, 87, versus, 70, it, doesn't, matter, that much, uh, as, opposed, to, in, the, NFL, where obviously, the, difference, between, every team, is, so, much, smaller, than, in, college

right, uh, having, the, Actuarial, background obviously, um, you, have, a, good, strong foundation, in, mathematics, and, I, always find, it, really, interesting, talking, to people, who, have, the, mathematical background, in, terms, of, how, they, approach sports, betting, where, you, have, the

extreme, um, which, I, I'll, I'll, say, Rufus Peabody, is, one, extreme, one, way, where it's, like, I, am, going, to, try, to, quantify everything, I'm, going, to, try, to, model everything, then, I'm, kind, of, maybe somewhere, in, the, middle, where, I, won't

bet, against, my, models, but, sometimes, I might, lay, off, and, be, like, hey, you, know what, I've, been, showing, an, edge, on, this team, six, straight, games, it's, not, going well, I, don't, know, if, this, is, true, you

know, and, then, there's, some, math, guys, who are, like, you, know, what, I, like, to, mix, in a, lot, of, subjective, feel, I, will, often times, play, against, my, own, numbers, where do, you, stand, on, that, Spectrum so, I, I, incorporate, some, subjective, stuff

but, I, always, try, to, at, least, put, the subjective, whatever, adjustments, I, like to, make, uh, I, make, to, you, know, if, I'm going, to, adjust, one, way, I'll, do, it, to the, team, rating, rather, than, post, after

everything's, been, run, I, think, if, you, do it, after, everything's, been, run, I, find, a lot, of, times, I'm, not, very, price sensitive, I, want, to, react, to, a, certain piece, of, information, a, certain, way, I already, kind, of, have, it, in, my, head, oh

you, know, this, guy's, I, want, to, do, this, um so, I, think, I'm, better, off, if, I, do, do some, kind, of, subjective, uh, adjustment, I do, it, to, the, actual, values, inside, the model, rather, than, the, game, post, after

everything's, been, run, um, I, would, say that, I, think, that, there's, a, difference between, you, know, there's, subjective inputs, and, there's, objective, ones, that even, if, you, can't, necessarily, price, it correctly, there, is, just, an, OB, the, value

to, it, so, I, think, there's, certain, things that, you, want, to, try, to, incorporate, as much, as, you, can, but, when, it, gets, to, the softer, values, of, like, team, rating, how much, this, player, matters, that's, where, I

think, subjective, kind, of, factors, in, more than, necessarily, you, know, the, wind, was 18, miles, per, hour, got, it, um, you mentioned, a, little, bit, about, sgps, and same, game, parlays, have become, huge, in, the, industry, nowadays, uh

a, lot, of, people, dismiss, them, as, sucker bets, uh, a, lot, of, sharper, bets, know, that there's, lots, of, times, where, you, can, use the, sgps, in, your, advantage, uh, I've, seen them, exploited, many, times, in, other sports, uh, especially, the, NFL, nowadays, I

know, some, guys, who, are, uh, they're, making a, lot, off, of, sgps, uh, very, low, win, rates shooting, for, the, moon, but, they, hit, them and, they, go, well, um, I'm, kind, of, familiar with, college, football, markets, I, do, bet

some, college, football, props, um, but, from what, I, can, tell, the, um, amount, of, options in, Market, is, nowhere, close, to, that, of, of NFL, so, when, you, talk, about, taking advantage, of, sgps, um, how, limited, are those, markets, like, are, are, you, doing

some, correlated, stuff, where, the, market is, still, in, the, early, going, where, it doesn't, quite, understand, the correlations, um, I, I, don't, I, I, I, don't want, you, to, give, away, an, edge, I, don't ask, people, to, do, that, but, just, curious

how, you're, using, them, to, benefit, right now yeah, I, I, would, say, kind, of, getting, into it, without, really, getting, into, it, um, I try, to, do, things, that, are, based, on standard, correlations, or, standard probabilities, that, they, put, in, there, and

adjust, it, to, team, specific, stuff, so essentially, they're, going, to, come, up with, this, is, a, correlation, for, this situation, based, on, tons, of, approach, uh you, know, tons, of, data, usually, fed, into some, kind, of, I'm, guessing, machine

learning, or, some, kind, of, you, know, giant Matrix, that, is, probably, math, above, my pay, grade, so, what, I'm, trying, to, do, is find, specific, situations, where, why, would that, correlation, not, apply, to, this, team or, why, would, that, correlation, be, wrong

here, um, it's, tough, because, there's, not, a ton, of, player, props, so, it's, basically all, game, stuff, yeah, um, and, it's, you, know it's, not, those, I'm, not, betting, any, kind of, long, shot, uh, SGP, stuff, like, that, with

the, NFL, where, there's, a, lot, more, of, that available, um, so, it's, more, just, stuff, and kind, of, kind, of, fitting, it, to, more specific, information, based, on, the, teams uh, which, college, because, there's, so, much Variety, in, the, teams, I, think, that

there's, kind, of, more, opportunities, there yep, that, makes, a, lot, of, sense, to, me, um okay, let's, flip, over, to, NBA, um, very different, sport, obviously, daily, League instead, of, betting, weekly, uh, when, it comes, to, NBA, are, you, betting, similar

types, of, things, in, the, NBA, I, know, you mentioned, you, do, bet, props, which, is, um you, know, again, there's, just, way, more, in terms, of, NBA, props, to, bet, on, a, daily basis, than, there, our, college, football

but, are, you, mostly, focused, on, the, same stuff, yeah, so, I, I'm, betting, mostly, uh you, know, points, I, started, the, year, doing points, and, threes, I, was, able, to, add, in um, some, assist, and, rebound, stuff, uh, in

the, middle, of, this, year, um, and, a, lot, of my, stuff, you, know, is, still, pretty, new, so I'm, kind, of, adding, in, features, midseason stuff, like, that, so, I, added, in, sgps, for this, season, uh, once, again, it, was

something, where, I, was, like, hey, I, was just, kind, of, scrolling, through, just checking, out, odds, and, kind, of, plugging in, and, looking, at, a, few, different, things I, was, like, you, know, this, doesn't, look right, to, me, um, could, I, whip, together

some, real, hack, job, of, something, that, I think, could, price, it, kind, of, close, that I, you, know, knew, wasn't, going, to, be perfect, but, I, was, like, all, right, is, this good, enough, to, beat, what, I, think, they're

pricing, fundamentally, wrong, um, so, I've been, betting, that, recently, uh, which, has been and, I, think, you, know, I, think, it's, better for, accounts, especially, if, you, can, kind of, edit, in, where, one, you're, losing, often before, you're, winning, big, so, I, think

that's, helpful, and, then, two, I, obviously they're, pushing, all, these, people, for sgps, uh, you, know, they, can't, they're, not going, to, push, everyone, to, bet, scps, and then, when, you, bet, scps, be, upset, so, as long, as, it's, not, you, know, super, flagrant

or, obvious, what, you're, doing, there, kind of, mix, it, up, a, little, bit, I, think, that it, probably, helps, count, life, although, to be, honest, like, I'm, mostly, kind, of betting, through, other, people, at, this point, uh, that, I, I, can't, tell, for, sure

yeah, on, the, topic, of, of, account longevity, or, health, um, I, I, often, see, a lot, of, debate, on, which, markets, are better, to, bet, on, um, in, the, community, whe like, some, people, argue, that, player, props are, great, because, of, the, ease, of, winning

High, Roi, others, say, gay, markets, offer more, long-term, value, because, of, the limitting, Factor, when, you, know, you're betting, high, volume, props, do, you, lean one, way, or another, you, know, not, really, um, I, will say, there, is, a, nice, part, about, props, uh

where, college, football, it's, all, on, one day, and, you're, like, you, know, whether this, goes, good, or, bad, it's, my, income riding, on, it, and, uh, like, the, first, week of, college, football, this, year, I, think, I was, 2, and, 18, so, and, you, know, week, one, is

even, harder, because, you, get, to, get, more down, because, you're, able, to, get, it, down quietly, so, it's, you, know, really, rough and, NBA, if, I, go, on, a, two, of, 18, stretch it's, fine, you, know, you, just, pick, up, the

next, day, and, get, to, keep, moving, uh, so, I do, think, like, uh, props, are, easier, in that, good, regard, um, as, far, as, you, know account, longevity, and, uh, things, like that, I, will, say, I, think, that, if, you're

able, to, I, think, the, prop, Market, is, easy enough, to, beat, if, you're, truly originating, it, you, know, it's, it's, if you're, doing, top, down, or, if, you, need razor, thin, margins, but, if, you're originating, it, sometimes, there's, edges

that, are, big, enough, that, you, don't, have to, take, best, price, and, that, can, kind, of it, opens, up, a, lot, of, doors, to, you, so, if I'm, willing, to, take, a, price, that, is, you know, even, worse, than, Market, one, I, think

it, probably, helps, your, accounts, better and, two, you, can, just, obviously, get, down at, so, many, more, places, so, I, think because, there, are, bigger, edges, sometimes it, gets, underrated, that, you, just, have, a wider, variety, of, places, you, can, bet, uh

you, know, any, given yeah, it's, actually, funny, you, mention that, um, I, try, all, sorts, of, [ __ ], when, it comes, to, um, trying, to, avoid, getting limited, uh, obviously, I've, talked, about account, priming, here, before, I, still

think, that's, very, important, I, everyone has, their, own, individual, experiences, of what, works, for, them, what, doesn't, depends on, the, book, might, have, just, been, random timing, with, the, with, the, trader, that happened, to, be, on, shift, when, you, know

you, fired, a, bunch, of, bets, there's, lots of, stuff, that, that, has, to, do, with, that and, I, still, continue, um, you, know, to, to go, down, these, paths, one, of, the experiments, I've, been, doing, was, was, not

taking, best, price, and, it's, it's, really weird, for, me, to, say, that, because, I've obviously, advocated, that, for, that forever, uh, being, a, co-owner, of, a, product like, bet, stamp, which, is, built, on, you know, find, the, best, pric, in, market, and

bet, it, there, I, still, think, that's, a great, advice, to, a, recreational, better generally, especially, one, that, doesn't have, an, edge, but, once, you, actually, do build, up, the, edge, um, when, you, go, Wipe Out, the, best, price, on, screen, at, every

single, B, sports, book, every, time, I, think your, longevity, is, is, pretty, much, nothing at, that, point, for, the, health, of, the account, so, um, yeah, it's, funny, just interesting, to, to, hear, you, mention, that as, well, because, for, me, that's, been, a, big

thing, over, the, last, several, months, which is, still, taking, good, prices, but, not taking, the, obvious, price, let's, put, it that way, yeah, I, I'll, be, honest, I, I, often, do take, the, best, price, too, but, I'm, kind, of

I'm, taking, it, so, I, want, to, get, down, on the, prop, and, as, many, places, as, I, can, so I'm, basically, betting, it, a, lot, of, times I'll, bet, it, if, the, board, is, you, know, not if, there's, nothing, if, everything's

relatively, in, market, I'll, bet, it, at, just every, single, sports, book, so, you're almost, floting, them, with, so, many, bets that, they're, not, looking, at, it, I, I, don't and, maybe, that's, not, actually, helpful, at all, but, I, think, that, if, you're, just, kind

of, picking, and, choosing, spots, it's, a, lot easier, to, see, than, when, you're, just, if go, in, at, the, same, time, every, single, day and, this, person's, like, oh, he's, betting at, you, know, 9, o', and, he, just, hammers, 15

bets, if, I, was, a, recreational, better, I would, probably, just, go, into, my, screen look, and, whatever, the, price, was, at, the time, I, bet, it, I, wouldn't, wait, till, you know, different, times, of, the, market, and try, to, pick, and, choose, and, things, like

that, so, I, again, it's, all, speculation like, you, said, I, have, no, idea, it, could, be I, I, the, funny, thing, is, uh, the, reason, I uh, have, you, know, the, Twitter, burner, name is, I uh, had, a, friend, who, worked, at, Fanatics

and, I, I, primed, an, account, I, was, betting WNBA, got, a, couple, decent, bets, in, uh, and I, messaged, him, I, was, like, hey, you, know, I got, limited, I'm, down, here, what's, going on, he's, like, yeah, we, review, accounts

that, are, betting, a, certain, amount, and they, found, uh, you, know, one, of, your, old articles, that, you, wrote, when, I, was writing, doing, some, content, stuff, he's like, we, found, one, of, those, and, then, put the, you, know, limits, on, you, there, I, was

like, ah, so, you, really, got, to, try, to, wrap up, every, kind, of, piece, of, Internet presence, you, have, which, is, pretty, much impossible, for, me, Mike, uh, i', I've learned, that, the, hard, way, um, yeah, I, mean

I, I, it's, an, unfortunate, nature, of, being a, public, figure, before, I, was, actually, a winning, better, because, uh, yeah, there's no, work, around, for, someone, quickly Googling, your, name, and, seeing, you, all over, a, bunch, of, betting, content, uh

that's, you, know, at, the, time, sponsored, by Pinnacle, sharp, book, as, well, wasn't wasn't, really, helping, my, C, I'll, tell, you that, yeah, Jed, on, them, I, mean, when, I wrote, that, article, I, would, have, been, a losing, better, so, they, they, really, would

have, messed, up, but, I, I, mean, also probably, when, I, wrote, that, article, I wouldn't, be, betting, a, DIY, on, a, random WNBA, game, so, I'm, sure, that, they, probably figure, that, out, too, yeah, and, listen there, are, some, sports, books, uh, I, mean

Fanatics, would, definitely, be, one, of, them where, I, I, don't, think, the, strategies that, you, may, may, employ, at, other, books are, necessarily, going, to, work, there, um anyways, um, just, my, exper, expences, um, on the, NBA, side, have, there, been, any, NBA

betting, angles, that, have, uh, worked, well in, the, past, that, have, since, dried, up that, you, could, maybe share, uh, I, I, don't, know, if, they necessarily, dried, up, I, I, would, say, that I, used, to, bet, a, lot, more, I, would, do, kind

of, Race, To, score, stuff, um, first, field goal, team, stuff, I, would, do, a, ton, of early, on, and, it's, just, gotten, harder, I, I guess, I, mean, it's, dried, up, in, the, sense that, it's, just, really, hard, to, bet, it, now

um, before, it, was, a, little, bit, easier, and part, of, that, is, just, me, increasing, my bet, size, where, it's, like, you, know, before with, where, it, was, $500, was, definitely worth, my, time, now, it's, like, I, you, know

just, I'm, not, going, to, worry, about, this bet, um, but, I, think, part, of, it, is, also books, just, realizing, that, it, was probably, a, bunch, of, sharp, people, betting it, that, this, isn't, a, particularly, fun bet, for, a, person, they're, going, to, bet

the, first, player, to, score, the, basket they're, not, going, to, bet, the, first, team um, so, that's, something, that, I, think, that you, know, a, lot, of, these, bets, that, if it's, not, fun, to, the, Casual, better, how

long, is, it, really, going, to, last, uh, that was, probably, one, example, of, that, I, think are, you, still, dabbling, in, the, first player, to, score, a basket, no, not, really, it's, just, uh, it's something, that, you, kind, of, at, least, I

needed, to, run, pretty, consistently, I, had a, a, pretty, good, out, uh, for, race, to, like five, race, to, 10, kind, of, thing, yeah, um unfortunately I, think, that, they, are, no, longer, paying out, very, many, sharp, customers, I, think, uh

they've, been, kind, of, in, some, news, for different, people, know, that, they're, not paying, out, now, so, that, was, one, of, my hours, for, a, while, and, that's, seems, like it's, gone, now, yeah, I, I, only, asked because, I, I, actually, love, that, market

for, a, sweat, um, so, I've, been, top, Downing uh, first, to, score, and, then, first, to score, from, each, team, um, using, betst, Pro uh, what, I, I, like, about, it, is, obviously the, odds, that, you, can, get, on, a, lot, of

these, bets, which, are, um, long, shots, but it's, just, it, is, actually, just, such, a great, sweat, at, like, 7, 7:30, Eastern, when the, games, are, tipping, off, I'm, not, a, huge NBA, guy, B, like, not, a, big, basketball, fan

but, I, can, watch, like, the, first, minute, of every, game, and, like, I, don't, I, don't, know to, me, it's, like, one, of, the, best, best sweats, you, could, possibly, have, in, sports betting, yeah, there, was, a, period, where

early, in, the, year, we, were, actually, able to, get, like, uh, we, had, some, VIP, accounts uh, there's, some, people, and, we, were, able to, get, a, decent, amount, and, when, we, would have, you, know, first, team, to, score, a

field, goal, and, we, had, what, was, a, pretty good, chunk, of, change, and, they, missed like, the, first, three, shots, you're, just like, and, often, times, it, wouldn't, even, be worth, it, for, me, to, like, turn, the, game, on

so, I'd, have, it, on, that, like, little, ESPN Gamecast, I'm, watching, it, like, a, real that's, a, real, you, know, degenerate, sweat of, watching, just, uh, animation, update, and seeing, like, oh, am, I, going, to, get, a, field

goal, or, not, uh, it, it's, it's, so incredibly, rewarding, when, win, that, type of, bet, but, also, can, be, so, incredibly tilting, too, like, when, you, when, you, got the, first, player, to, score, who, takes, the first, two, shots, for, a, team, and, misses

both, I've, had, situations, where, you, know a, guy, will, be, going, in, for, a, layup, and gets, fouled, and, then, like, the, ref, says no, no, it's, on, the, it's, you, know, it's, not shooting, fouls, on, the, fouls, happen, on

the, floor, you're, like, no, what, the, hell's going, on, here, like, very, clearly, in, the process, of, making, a, layup, love, that market, um, one, of, my, favorites, altogether I'm, just, trying, to, think, of, of, stuff over, the, years, and, I, I, don't, think

there's, anything, better, for, me, than, than that, first, bucket, whether, it, was, the team, to, to, score, first, the, player, to score, I've, always, been, really, interested in, that market, yeah, yeah, I, I, had, uh, when, web Yama, first, came, into, the, NBA, I, was

betting, it, pretty, consistently, and, I just, didn't, think, they, adjusted, to, the fact, that, he's, a, seven, foot6, alien, fast enough, so, like, he, he, should, obviously, be a, huge, favorite, to, win, every, jump, ball and, the, Spurs, obviously, sucked, so, I, bet

a, lot, of, money, and, ended, up, losing, a, lot of, money, consistently, betting, first score, and, then, eventually, they, figured it, out, and, started, pricing, it, right, so, I was, just, n, huge, loser, in, betting, on those, kind, of, situations, uh, so, yeah, yeah

those, are, tough, ones, um, you, did, mention the, smaller, markets, you, bet, like, WNBA UFL, you, mentioned, as, well, um, what, do those, markets, look, like, I, have, you, I guess, let, me, refine, the, question, by saying, have, you, found, them, to, be, more

competitive, as, as, yours, have, gone, off, or have, they, just, been, relatively stagnant, you, know, I, don't, really, know just, because, I, haven't, been, betting, it long, enough, kind, of, to, pick, up, on, some of, those, things, I, would, say, that, they're

a, little, everybody, would, kind, of, put together, the, UFL, and, WNBA, but, really it's, it's, based, on, the, way, I, bet, UFL, is more, like, NBA, props, where, it's, a, lot, of in, NBA, props, you're, always, looking, at

the, assumptions, that, you're, taking whether, it's, field, goal, rate, minutes, you know, shooting, percentage, Etc, and, you're kind of, you're, kind, of, adjusting, to, that manually, or, at, least, I, am, um, based, on different, factors, how, real, is, this, um, is

it, not, UFL, is, similar, where, there's, not a, ton, of, data, so, you're, like, you, know how, real, is, this, where, WNBA, it's, more resented, it's, more, similar, to, my, kind, of college, football, process, where, I, have, a

good, idea, of, what, each, team, is, and, it's more, of, a, straight, modeling, problem, as opposed, to, kind, of, more, of, a, hackish, job or, more, manual, uh, for, the, UFO, so, I, just manual, I, just, manually, looked, I, looked

up, uh, the, UFL, cuz, I, I, don't, I, don't, bet the, UFL, are, follow, it, so, there's, eight teams, in, the, UFL, um, right, nine, in, the CFL, I'm, just, curious, what, what, how, do you, decide, when, you're, going, to, move

into, a, certain, League, or, a, market, what made, you, choose, UFL, and WNBA, yeah, so, I, for, WNBA, first, I, at, first I, was, betting, uh, some, very, early, when, I first, started, NBA, sides, and, totals, uh, so

I, was, just, an, easy, process, to, switch that, over, uh, to, WNBA, and, then, NBA there's, so, many, props, daily, and, uh, I'm working, with, some, people, I, have, someone now, that, I, originate, the, props, and, then I, send, it, out, to, them, and, then, they

trade, it, so, that's, been, super, helpful but, there's, just, there's, only, so, much time, in, the, day, to, do, that, and, to, try, to do, NBA, Siz, and, totals, it's, really, not possible, for, me, at, this, point, in, time, uh

so, w, it's, small, league, so, I'm, able, to handle, that, um, for, UFL, I, it, was, because the, XFL, started, and, I, was, like, here's, a league, with, absolutely, no, data, uh there's, no, historical, stuff, I, can basically, go, in, from, the, ground, level

and, whatever, happens, I, know, that, I'm, at equal, footing, with, anybody, who's, if you're, just, picking, up, betting, UFL, and, I started, I, you, know, we're, at, least, on, the same, page, of, what, we've, seen, so, far, so, I

have, thought, about, betting, CFL, um, part of, it, is, honestly, it's, just, in, the summer, and, I, would, am, prepping, for college, football, and, need, at, least, some time, to, time, to, take, a, relaxing, break but, I, I, have, thought, about, CFL, uh, but, I

was, kind, of, deciding, between, that, and UFL, and, I, thought, there's, already, CFL betters, there's, people, who, have, winning CFL, models, no, one, has, a, winning, UFL model, so, I, can, at, least, come, in, kind, of and, they, don't, have, an, advantage, over, me

yeah, I, and, listen, I, mean, as, someone, who did, bet, CFL, seriously, for, a, bit, and doesn't, anymore, now, it, just, became, very oversaturated, I, found, uh, with, a, lot, of PE, like, you, know, you, have, four, games, a

week, uh, you, potentially, when, there's buys, you, have, three, games, a, week, you have, days, where, like, Pinnacle, does, not open, the, game, until, game, day, and everyone's, waiting, for, it, to, happen, and there'll, be, literally, like, a, $300, limit

on, it, and, people, are, pounding, it, it, just became, you, know, you, got, Fez, releasing the, South, Point, openers, on, CFL, at, 3:00 a.m., like, it, it, it, got, to, a, point, where it's, just, ridiculous, so, I, don't, I, don't

blame, you, I, wish, there, was, more, of, a market, for, a, lot, of, these, SP, I'm surprised, that, with, th, this, era, of betting, nowadays, that, we, don't, see, more of, a, market, for, some, of, these, smaller Sports, yeah, I, as, popular, as, football, is

it, is, it, draws, a, rating, no, matter basically, if, you, look, at, like, a, random Sun, Belt, game, on, Tuesday, on, the, ESPN, you look, at, the, rating, it's, like, oh, this, is performing, as, good, as, duke, North

Carolina, in, college, basketball, it's insane how, much, they, do, I'm, surprised, that, they haven't, tried, to, kind, of, pump, up, CFL more, and, just, it's, I, mean, it's summertime, content, but, I, obviously, those guys, are, pretty, smart, they, probably, have

a, reason, they're, not, just, turning, away money, but, you're, right, I'm, surprised that, there's, not, people, just, want, to, bet on, football, I, I, think, that, you, know perhaps, as, people, just, get, more, and, more forward, and, as, gambling, problem, uh

problem, gaming, becomes, more, of, a, issue there, will, be, people, who, are, like, oh whatever, it's, Tuesday, on, or, Thursday, in August, I'm, gonna, go, ahead, and, try, to risk, it, in, CFL, and, then, maybe, get, bigger limits, yeah, I, mean, listen, you, got, people

betting, on, uh, influencer, boxing, fights nowadays, during, the, day, right, like, can't tell, me, they, wouldn't, want, to, bet, on more, football, I, do, want, to, get, your, take on, that, here, shortly, as, well, um, as, we can, transition, more, into, like, the

industry, um, nowadays, there's, lots, of betting, tools, out, there, there's, lots, of services, that, have, exploded, in popularity, recently uh, obviously, odd, Jam, was, a, big, one, and with, the, amount, that, they, sold, for, uh but, you, get, all, sorts, of, services

nowadays, we, have, you, know, bet, stamp, on our, side, unabated, uh, there's, tons, of stuff, do, you, think, that, they're, actually these, services, are, actually, making betters, sharper, in, the, long, run, or, do you, think, that, there's, kind, of, like, this

false, sense, of, security, with, a, lot, of the, tools, that, are, out, there, these days, it, it, is, a, little, bit, harder, for, me because, I've, never, been, the, top, down better, I, feel, like, a, lot, of, even

Originators, in, the, space, they're, like hey, I, started, off, as, a, wck, better, then, I started, arbing, um, and, then, after, arving I, figured, out, one, side, was, sharper, than the, other, and, I, took, that, side consistently, and, kind, of, worked, my, way

there, I've, really, never, had, a, period where, well, I, mean, never, really, was, I looking, at, an, odd, screen, before, working as, a, Trader, so, there's, kind, of, an, aspect of, it, where, I, am, a, little, in, the, dark

but, I, will say, it, feels, like, if, you're, all, these guys, who, are, doing, to, down, betting, it just, becomes, more, and, more, tools, and they, become, table, stakes, and, it's, kind of, like, analytics, was, in, baseball, uh, to

start, off, where, if, you, were, doing, it, you had, this, big, Edge, you, know, the, A's, had this, Edge, because, they, understand, that uh, on, base, percentage, is, important nobody, else, understands, it, and, now, if you, like, you, you, know, you, have, to, have

huge, analytic, Spates, just, to, keep, up with, everyone, so, for, a, lot, of, it, would be, really, frustrating, for, if, you, were, a top, down, guy, to, keep, up, with, everything one, you, just, have, to, sub, to, all, these

different, things, and, there's, so, many kind, of, different, processes, it's, nice originating, at, least, you, know, that you're, kind, of, doing, your, stuff, uh, kind of, solo, and, going, into, the, market, as opposed, to, all, these, guys, having, to, read

it, just, gives, me, stress, thinking, about it, being, like, Oh, you, know, how, do, I, keep up, with, this, and, then, there's, this, head fake, and, things, like, that, I, think, it, it would, be, really, frustrating, and, then

figure, out, that, someone's, got, a, better tool, than, you, and, they're, using, it, I think, there's, probably, some, level, of where, they, think, if, I, miss, one, Bad, Bet is, it, worth, a, subcription, here, yeah, what about, what, about, the, side, of, things, like

tools, that, help, people, originate, like, a random, example, like, you, can, upload, your power, ratings, for, every, NFL, team, and we'll, you, know, we'll, output, uh, you, know we'll, Sim, the, entire, season, or, we'll, Sim this, week, um, things, of, that, nature, do

you, think, that, those, provide, a, false sense, of security, yeah, yeah, probably, I, think eventually, I, there, are, for, example, you can, upload, your, projections, into unabated, I, know, for, their, props, and they'll, do, the, distributions, for, you, I

think, there, probably, is, uh, value, in, that for, specific, people, I, think, though, you probably, put, a, little, bit, of, a, ceiling on, yourself, if, you, can't, at, least, begin to, project, it, yourself, um, you, know basically, every, single, model, that, I've

ever, created, and, there's, people, with, far more, sophisticated, than, me, but everything, that, I've, ever, created, sucked so, bad, when, it, started, and, it, was, so basic, and, it, was, just, me, guessing, on certain, things, and, then, slowly, you, build

this, and, then, slowly, build, another, piece I, think, that, a, lot, of, these, if, you're uploading, it, into, somewhere, you're, kind of, taking, a, shortcut, to, not, as, uh, you know, fruitful, grounds, in, the, end, as, if you're, trying, to, do, it, yourself, and

maybe, you, aren't, profitable, at, first, uh but, you're, kind, of, reiterating, on, your process, but, at, the, same, time, you, know, I do, think, that, there, is, something, to, just learning, how, to, win, as, a, better, so, if

that's, able, to, get, you, to, do, that, the maybe, you, can, go, ahead, and, do, it, and upload, it, un, aate, it, and, then, eventually start, to, learn, your, own, distributions and, stuff, like, that, so, I, there, probably

is, I'll, say, this, if, you, used, it correctly, I'm, sure, that, there, probably is, super, benefit, useful, cases, for, it, but I, bet, you, a, lot, of, people, are, um, you know, trying, to, use, it, in, place, of

something, else, yeah, I, would, tend, to agree, with, that, as, well, also, it, just, I think, um, and, this, is, not, speaking directly, to, unabated, like, there's there's, lots, of, tools, out, there, that allow, you, to, input, rankings, and, it'll

you, know, all, sorts, of, that, but, a, lot, of the, tools, are, very, useful, if, the rankings, or, power, ratings, are, also, good but, in, the, sense, where, they're, not you're, just, getting, edges, on, ratings that, are, not, good, and, the, only, reason, I

I, brought, it, up, with, you, is, um, I, I, mean I, see, it, pretty, happen, pretty, regularly with, friends, around, me, it's, like, well you, know, I'm, gonna, bet, this, team, and it's, like, why, did, you, bet, Futures, on

this, college, football, team, this, season it's, like, well, I, I, inputed, my, ratings and, they, Sim, the, schedule, for, me, I'm like, yeah, but, like, it's, reliant, on, on your, ratings, right, yeah, you, have, to, have you, have, to, be, doing, something, in, your

own, process, that's, better, than, everyone else, in, order, for, it, to, have, value, so these, tools, that, are, around, there, if you're, not, putting, in, your, own, separate kind, of, I, mean, maybe, you, can, aggregate enough, information, and, put, it, in, and, it

can, be, decent, to, beat, soft, markets, I guess, but, really, if, you, want, to, have Edge, you, are, the, one, who, has, to, create the, edge, there, isn't, just, things, sitting around, sometimes, they're, they're, useful as, kind, of, a, bridge, Gap, I, think, um, you

know, if, you, are, learning, Break, Even percentages, it's, nice, to, have, a, break even, calculator, until, eventually, you just, learn, to, create, your, own, or eventually, you, start, to, know okay, minus, 110, is, 52.4, or, whatever, um, so

a, lot, of, them, I, think, they're, Bridge gaps, uh, and, they, can, help, you, while, you learn, to, win, but, you, know, again, if, if you're, not, creating, the, edge, yourself it's, really, hard, to, just, find, tools, that

are, going, to, have, it, there, is, always debate, online, uh, in, the, gambling, Twitter community, on, whether, or, not, people should, share, their, edges, publicly, uh this, tends, to, happen, a, couple, times, a year, usually, someone, shares, something

sharp, Community, goes, in, on, them, and, says well, why, would, you, do, this, you'd, be better, off, just, betting, it, yourself, or finding, a, mover, or, whatever, do, you, think it, ever, makes, sense, for, a, better, to publicly, share, their

edges, yeah, I, think, in, theory, it, makes sense, that, you, should, never, share anything, and, as, soon, as, you, say, anything it's, lowering, your, theoretical possibility, of, earning, in, the, future, but to, me, that, just, seems, like, it, kind, of

ignores, reality, of, the, fact, that, people kind, of, want, to, talk, to, one, another about, things, that, they're, doing, and, you generate, so, I, mean, if, you, and, I, are talking, about, a, sport, and, say, we're betting, both, betting, NFL, and, I, increase

your, Edge, on, something, by, 3%, and, you increase, Mine, by, 2%, there's, so, many other, participants, in, the, pool, that, we both, benefit, from, that, and, really, the only, way, that, you, can, gain, more information, from, others, is, if, you, share

it, yourself, and, nobody, you, know, nobody in, real, life, goes, up, and, says, I, have some, information, would, you, like, to, talk about, this, information, and, potentially help, one, another, like, you, have, to, kind of, just, go, out, and, say, here's, what, I

think, and, then, eventually, other, people will, comment, back, and, you'll, get, some feedback, loops, through, there, and, if you're, doing, anything, super, specific, I understand, you, know, I, would, never, if, I had, something, where, I, was, like, Hey

nobody, you, know, in, this, typ, hypothetical Universe, nobody's, figured, out, that there's, altitude, in, Denver, and, I, have this, Edge, and, this, one, specific, spot, and I, know, that, there's, more, homec, Court there, there, I, understand, you, don't, want

to, say, anything, but, when, it's, kind, of more, General, basis, uh, if, you're, not, kind of, bouncing, ideas, out, there, you, just don't, get, any, feedback, back, and, I, think that, a, lot, of, times, people, look, at, is

this, you're, either, giving, information, or you're, taking, it, when, really, the, people who, get, the, most, information, back, are those, who, at, least, project, some, stuff out, into, the, kind, of, thought, process yeah, I, I, think, a, lot, of, Sharps, really

over simplify, like, the, ability, for, a, random person, who, might, have, an, edge, on something, to, go, out, and, and, find, movers and, be, able, to, get, down, on, whatever, they want, to, get, down, on, or, people, that, like

you, could, have, an, edge, not, even, realize you, have, one, for, one, but, also, you, know, I I, lived, through, the, experience, of, if, I had, never, posted, baseball, numbers publicly, to, Twitter, I'm, nowhere, today like, I, just, happened, to, be, posting

numbers, to, Twitter, and, eventually someone, was, betting, them, and, you, know someone, reached, out, to, me, and, said, hey you, post, your, numbers, every, day, soon, as you, post, someone's, hitting, the, screen with, your, information, you, should, get

something, out, of, it, I, had, no, clue, what they, were, even, talking, about, and, I, think the, the, the, sharp, betters, Pro, betters they, often, really, over, they, get, mad, and I, understand, getting, mad, at, like, an influencer, who, just, wants, the, clout, more

than, anything, but, I, still, understand, why the, influencer, would, rather, grow, their following, rather, than, you, know, make, a couple, dimes, on, on, betting, some, sort, of edge, well, and, especially, just, okay, you have, those, connections, that, doesn't, mean

everybody, has, those, connections, so you're, like, well, if, they, knew, the, right people, then, they, could, get, down, you, know whatever, x, amount, on, this, and, this, cost them, this, much, money, well, they, don't have, those, connections, right, now, and

honestly, the, best, way, to, make connections, a, lot, of, times, is, just, to post, ideas, that, you, have, out, there, about specific, situations, and, things, like, that I, I, you, know, Kirk, Evans, has, been, on, the show, I, reached, out, to, him, we've, uh, found

out, some, things, basically, because, he tweeted, out, that, you, know, I, think, that this uh, uh, s, Sabrina, ISU, versus, Steph, Curry, I think, that, this, is, priced, wrong, whatever and, just, he, put, it, out, there, and, then, I

messaged, him, back, asking, them, something about, it, and, things, like, that, I, think, a lot, of, times, people, forget, that, if, you don't, know, any, one, in, the, industry, like it's, easy, to, say, when, you, are, connected with, all, these, people, that, you, could

privately, message, and, do, all, these things, if, you're, just, starting, off, you don't, know, who, to, message, who, to, talk, to anything, like, that, so, if, you, put something, out, there, even, if, you, get yelled, at, a, little, bit, honestly, a, lot, of

times, what, happens, is, like, uh, with, that DK, DFS, guy, posted, about, Mel, Bridges, yeah and, I'm, guessing, he, probably, thought, I can, bet, as, much, as, I, can, in, this situation, so, I'm, going, to, go, ahead, and

put, it, on, Twitter, and, now, I, follow, him, I think, he's, pretty, smart, I, would, guess that, he's, created, lots, of, opportunities from, him, you, know, maybe, did, he, create, as much, as, that, bridge, situation, what, I, I

don't, know, but, he, didn't, have, a, way, to get, down, so, now, he, says, something, smart people, start, to, listen, to, him, oh, this, is someone, who, kind, of, is, looking, for, the right, things, is, uh, you, know, generally

pretty, with, it, so, I, think, that, if, you're first, starting, it's, actually, pretty beneficial, if, you, don't, have, a, way, to after, you, get, down, as, much, as, you, can, to share, it, out, there, I, think, actually makes, a, lot, of, sense, yeah, like, don't, get

me, wrong, I, I, I'm, I, don't, want, to, be, a hypocrite, I've, been, upset, at, people posting, edges, before, like, especially, if someone, post, something, in, a, sport, that, I bet, on, which, I, already, know, about, that's going, to, trigger, me, I, think, that's, only

natural, there's, also, another, part, of, me that, that, thinks, to, myself, like, I, wish this, guy, would, have, just, reached, out, to me, and, I, could, have, connect, facilitated something, for, them, where, everybody, earns off, it, like, those, go, through, my, head, but

I, I, think, most, Pros, really, struggle, to see, like, the, other, side, of, the, equation and, understand, yeah, those, connections aren't, there, and, like, this, person, wasn't out, to, get, you, by, posting, the, edge, or anything, like, that, right, yeah, yeah, I

mean, it's, one, of, those, situations everybody, who, bets, before, me, I'm, like, oh my, God, are, you, betting, this, early, what are, you, doing, and, everybody, after, me, I'm like, oh, those, are, the, breaks, of, the, game sorry, buddy, I, I, had, to, get, in, there, but

it's, like, the, guy, who, bets, on, Sunday it's, a, it's, a, offline, I'm, like, you, can't wait, till, goddamn, the, day, I, bet, like that's, actually, the, perfect, time, to, bet it, anybody, who, bet, before, that, they're just, going, too, early, anybody, after, not

my, problem, yeah, the, pick, selling, space is, highly, controversial, nowadays, I, think that's, been, brought, to, the, Forefront, now with, the, emergence, of, uh, you, know companies, like, dub, club, and, [ __ ], and winnable, in, your opinion, what's, the, line

between, let's say, offering, value, and, misleading, people or, or, do, you, view, the, the, you, know, the the, public, sentiment, I, know, I, shouldn't say, the, public, the, sentiment, shared, by, a lot, of, the, sharps, as, like, all, totes, are

bad, as, just, the, the, moral, thing, to preach, to, the community, yeah, I, I, think, in, theory, it actually, could, make, a, lot, of, sense, to have, someone, who's, like, hey, it's, way easier, rather, than, trying, to, get, down, at

all, these, places, if, you, could theoretically, send, it, out, to, a, bunch, of people, who, are, probably, losing, betters in, other, ways, so, they, have, accounts, to go, and, this, is, a, way, for, them, to, make slightly, more, um, as, they're, betting, I

think, it, makes, sense, in, a, lot, of, ways, um I, I, think, the, problem, is, anybody, who is, going, to, buy, picks, almost, by definition, doesn't, have, a, good understanding, of, what, they're, buying because, if, you, were, able, to, truly

understand, what, was, going, in, to, a, lot, of it, you, wouldn't, buy, the, picks, so, like there, there, is, a, situation, where, it's really, tough, and, that, regard, and, then, I again, especially, now, with, places, that are, so, quick, to, limit, and, it's, not, like

before, where, it, was, a, true, Marketplace really, um, with, a, lot, of, these, bets, it's not, you're, not, betting, into, a, market anymore, you're, betting, in, it's, more, you vers, the, book, than, it, used, to, be, you versus, everyone, else, um, at, least, in

specific, markets, obviously, once, you, get to, the, real, top, level, it's, more, of, a true, Marketplace, but, if, you're, talking any, kind, of, props, even, um, if, you're talking early, uh, early, small, limit, stuff, like that, a, lot, of, it, is, you, versus, the

bookmaker, so, it, does, make, sense, that, you would, buy, p, in, that, regard, um, the problem, is, it's, just, not, only, is, it people, that, don't, know, what, they're buying, I, think, it's, really, hard, just, in general, to, create, a, record, that, is, fully

transparent, fully, honest, so, the, other day, I, A, lot, of, times, what, I'll, do, is I'll, run, the, prop, my, prop, set, at, night and, then, in, the, morning, I'll, go, in, I'll recheck, what's, moved, out, of, place, Etc, um

and, then, you, know, throughout, the, day, I trade, it, and, I, ran, it, um, I, took, the, day off, I, didn't, end, up, betting, it, really much, at, all, and, I, was, going, to, put, these plays, into, my, own, recordkeeping, and, I

was, like, well, I, didn't, I, had, a, bad, day it, was, you, know, maybe, I, was, two, and eight, I, was, like, well, you, know, I, didn't really, bet, these, like, should, these, count now, I'm, not, getting, any, more, dollars

either, way, either, way, whether, I, put those, in, or, not, but, it's, there's, always going, to, be, kind, of, edge, cases, and, it's so, always, going, to, be, tempting, to, kind of, cheat, on, those, edge, cases, even, if

you're, doing, it, like, to, yourself, if you're, a, competitive, person, you, want your, record, and, like, you, can, talk yourself, into, actually, this, is, what's fair, and, I, think, a, lot, of, times, even, if you, have, good, intentions, what, you, end, up

doing, is, kind, of, making, every, little Fringe, case, you, end, up, being, more generous, to, yourself, than, you, probably should, be, um, and, I, think, it's, just, human nature, and, hard, to, kind, of, dispel, so, I, I do, think, that, there, probably, are, value

and, picks, that, you, can, buy, um, I, think being, able, to, keep, up, with, which, on, you should, is, going, to, be, so, hard, that, it's basically, you, know, in, theory, could, exist but, in, practice, it's, really, hard, to, do

yeah, that, was, really, well, said, because as, you, were, saying, it, I, could, even, think of, myself, doing, that, and, and, I'm, not, a tote, but, I'm, I, I, bet, on, Sports, for, my livelihood, but, I, also, have, a, Content

business, and, you, know, I, will, put, out picks, one, week, that, will, be, be, bad, on, on on, the, shows, but, I, I, will, always, be, well you, know, I, did, hit, an, SGP, on, a, live watch, along, that, paid, 60, to1, where's

that, where, why, aren't, you, talking, about that, you, can, always, find, a, way, to rationalize, even, when, you're, trying, not to, part, of, it, is, just, being, competitive in, nature, but, um, yeah, it's, it's, really it's, really, challenging, for, the, average

person, to, not try, even, unconsciously, to, make themselves, look, better yeah, I, think, even, to, yourself, it's really, hard, not, to, do, like, whenever you're, thinking, of, a, situ, well, that, that situation, really, doesn't, count, if, you think, about, it, or, you, know, if, you, say

you're, betting, a, oneoff, say, I, bet, the Super, Bowl, and, I, don't, usually, bet, any NFL, it's, like, oh, well, I, did, bad, in, the Super, Bowl, that's, I'm, not, really, bad, in the, NFL, that, you, know, whether, how, much

you, want, to, factor, that, in, or, if, you have, a, good, day, it's, much, easier, to, be like, oh, well, obviously, it's, all, money, in the, bank, the, same, way, I, think, it's there's, always, going, to, be, some, kind, of

line, where, you, group, things, in, a specific, way, and, it's, really, hard, to, be honest, with, yourself, even, again, if, it's just, you, know, trying, to, be, competitive uh, you, know, you, just, always, want, to think, that, you're, better, than, you, are

and, myself, included, I, always, am, like striving, to, be, like, oh, actually, this, is why, this, doesn't apply, Twitter, spaces, have, become, a, big part, of, gambling, qu, culture, right, now, uh but, a, lot, of, people, have, pointed, out, the

change, is, over, the, last, couple, months where, they, started, as, you, know, kind, of exposing, scammers, and, grifters, in, the space, to, nowadays, maybe, putting, them, on a, pedestal, um, more, of, the, spaces, being beef, driven, you, know, arguments, with, one

another, in, your, point, of, view, has, the trends, space, been, good, or, bad, for, the betting Community, I, could, to, say, I'm, not, them honestly, as, much, as, I, like, to, consume what, happened, in, them, afterwards, I, found

a, lot, of, times, when, I, go, into, them, it's actually, um, let's, listen, to, the, mentally ill, guy, ramble, for, a, few, hours, here, as we, kill, time, in, order, to, do, different things, and, um, when, you're, actually, in

them, they're, a, lot, more, boring, than, what you, think, but, I, do, like, catching, up reading, up, on, them, after, it's interesting, um, I, don't, know, if, I necessarily, buy, that, it's, was, you, know once, this, really, pure, place, that

everybody, it, feels, like, uh, when, Mad, Men started, and, they, like, went, back, to, the 1950s, everybody, looks, as, wholesome, and it's, like, actually, everybody, was, always a, degenerate, all, the, time, right, it's like, actually, elf, spaces, were, always

garbage, do, I, feel, elf, himself, is, really like, I, I, mean, he's, really, embracing, the lifestyle, he, likes, to, live, it, up, sure, um and, I, I, mean, but, I, think, it's, been pretty, clear, from, the, beginning, that, the

goal, was, viewed, and, to, do, that, at, all cost, and, you, know, it, is, what, it, is, you just, got, to, take, it, at, face, value, you shouldn't, kind, of, put, this, moral, value onto, something, that's, never, headed, in

the, first, place yeah, fair, enough, um, I, used, to participate, them, in, the, early, I, would say, definitely, the, vibe, of, them, has shifted, but, to, your, point, it, might, not have, been, like, yeah, that's, like, this moral, High, Ground, it, was, always, like

let's, bring, on, the, scammer, that, was, kind of, the, the, thing, that, was, always, the thing, but, in, the, early, going, I, think, it was, um, much, more, geared, towards potentially, exposing that, person, where, and, elf, would, still

take, the, side, of, of, the, scammer, to, just keep, it, going, whereas nowadays, um, I, I, think, it's, this, is, my own, opinion, lots, of, people, enjoy, it they've, grown, a, lot, but, it, kind, of, feels like, it's, jump, the, shark, a, little, too

far, in, the, opposite, direction, I, I, envy you, for, not, participating, but, being, able to, catch, up, after, the, fact, that's, the life, I, would, like, to, live, unfortunately I, am, a, bit, addicted, to, the, drama, uh fully, willing, to, admit, it, and, if

everyone, was, just, like, you, Mike, the spaces, wouldn't, exist, if, we, were, all catching, up, after, the, fact, there, there would, be, nothing, going, on, in, real, time and, there, needs, to, be, something, going, on in, real, time, yeah, I, I, will, say, I, think

you're, right, in, the, fact, at, first, it, was you, know, more, of, an, arbitrator, of, what's going, on, here, what's, happening, now, you have, Al, you, know, wh, sea, Perry, in, a, hotel room, and, they're, being, friends, and, then

he's, going, with, the, man, advaned, hockey Gam, and, they're, tweeting, out, every single, thing, of, it, and, I, I, don't, know especially, like, you, know, with, Shawn Perry, he's, like, oh, Spanky's, been, this Mentor, towards, me, and, Shan, Perry's, like

you, know, yelling, horrible, things, at, him I, thought, if, you, that, guy's, been, a mentor, to, you, and, you're, just, like, oh well, you, know, whatever, and, Spanky doesn't, bother, it, so, maybe, I'm, you, know a, fool, for, caring, about, something, he

doesn't, seem, to, care, about, but, I, just, I don't, know, I, think, you're, right, in, the fact, that, it, does, seem, like, he's, more, a part, of, the, content, now, as, opposed, to Bringing, on, the, clown, show, it's, like

like, he's, part, of, the, clown, show, but yeah, I, I, don't, know, the, one, time, I logged, in, to, spaces, it, was, probably, you know, maybe, two, days, apart, and, both, of them, they, were, talking, about, like, you

know, if, you, don't, get, things, together here, you, might, go, down, and, kill, yourself I, was, like, things, are, getting, a, little dark, and, Grim, here, was, uh, you, know, I can't, remember, the, ex, two, people, it, was

I, think, it, was, that, mey, guy, or, one, of them, I, don't, know, but, I, was, like, you know, once, we, reach, the, last, two, times I've, logged, in, it's, been, two, kind, of, end your, life, conversations, I, thought, I

don't, know, I, don't, know, it's, it's, it's, a lot, it, seems, a, lot, more, interesting, on the, clips, and, then, you, go, in, and, it's just, it's, you're, getting, the, highlights compared, to, when, you're, actually, in there, it's, a, lot, more, killing, time, at

least, maybe, I'm, just, entering, in, at, the wrong, times, no, no, it, is, that, in, my opinion, too, it's, extremely, Hit, or, Miss like, people, think, I, spend, all, night, in these, spaces, I, don't, I, really, don't especially, when, my, wife, is, around, I, mean

it's, not, even, a, possibility, for, me, but really, she, doesn't, she, doesn't, like, the fact, that, you're, listening, into, a, spes about, Twitter, game, like, I, can't, imagine your, wife, want, to, be, glued, in, every second, of, it, you, know, what, she, she, says

she's, not, interested, but, she, provides her, commentary, whenever, they're, on, in the, background, she's, always, providing some, sort, of, commentary, like, obviously this, guy, is, lying, obviously, like, this guy, is, overcompensating, for, something, so you, know, we, can, pretend, that, she, doesn't

like, them, but, she, does, um, I, I, just, for me, the, when, I, when, I, think, back, on, the whole thing, all, the, all, the, the, characters that, used, to, get, quote, unquote, roasted in, the, beginning, you, know, when, the

spaces, first, took, off, there, was, a, lot, of um, people, who, were, the villains, and, those, villains, are, like, now the, good, guys, and, that, that, to, me, kind of, shows, that, it's, trended, way, too, the when, like, people, who, are, literally

selling, packages, and, fleecing, customers that, know, that, they're, losing, betters, or are, now, like, the, good, people, the, moral authorities, in, the, space, that's, how, I know, it's, gone, too, far, so, I, I, don't, have a, lot, of, interest, in, being, around, that

and, I, don't, participate, un, unless, like, I get, a, message, on, telegram, that's, like wow, like, you, got, to, go, in, now, it's, it's getting, I'm, not, devoting, a, whole, nights to, that anymore, yeah, I, I, think, it's, a, lot, more

interesting, when, there's, someone, you know, I, understand, why, they, don't, want, it to, be, just, a, bunch, of, Sharps, coming, in and, bowling, some, idiot, who, doesn't, know what's, going, on, but, it, is, nice, when there's, at, least, one, person, there, to

kind, of, just, because, it, would, be, like, if I, was, debating, something, I, knew, nothing about, if, I, was, debating, uh, you, know, some kind, of, medical, piece, of, information with, doctors, I'd, look, like, a, complete idiot, so, when, they, come, in, there, and

it's, the, person, who's, selling, things, and they, just, don't, know, the, basics, of, like whatever, they're, talking, about, um, it, it really, is, that, it, was, funny, in, that regard, I, I, tuned, into, I, was, uh, listening when, it, was, the, you, know, if, I, bet, 100K

games, at, your, age, I, put, a, [ __ ], bow, in my, head, that, I, gotta, say, I, was, like, okay now, I, kind, of, get, like, the, highlights, of it, that, was, it, it, does, reach, good, levels

of, content, it's, just, it's, I, think, the sustainability, of, it, is, and, I, don't, know how, much, longer, they, can, keep, pushing, it feels, like, it's, uh, you, know, in, WWE, where you, first, they're, fighting, on, thumb, text

then, they, have, Hell, in, a, Cell, and, then all, of, a, sudden, Undertakers, being, buried alive, it, feels, like, we're, kind, of, at, the Buried, Alive, stage, of, it, oh, it's, way more, extreme, than, that, like, at, the, first

at, the, start, it, was, it, was, like, Stone Cold, versus, McMahon, you, know, it, was, like those, years, it, was, like, Peak, now, we're at, like, you, know, horn, swaggle, is, Vince McMahon's, son, you, know, type, of, cont, the

worst, possible, storyline, ever, you, know that's, where, it's, gone, to, at, this, point but, listen, lots, of, people, enjoy, it, um, I still, occasionally, do, uh, and, I, will, keep up, with, it, because, it's, kind, of, my, job

at, this, point, as, well, but, to, to, your point, Mike, you, know you, can't, just, do, and, and, I, I, learned this, with, circles, off, right, with, this brand, you, can, do, in, my opinion, good, sharp, betting, content, like

I, stand, by, some, of, the, best, interviews we've, had, on, this, channel, obviously we've, done, some, stuff, that, that, didn't work, out, but, I, I, think, we, had, some, like really, really, strong, educational, content on, here, where, it, reaches, like, 10,000

people, you, know, viewership, another, maybe 20, 30,000, listenership, but, that's, it like, that's, that's, the, max, there's, just not, that, much, of, an, appetite, for, this stuff, you, know, I, I, don't, I, don't, even this, will, sound, conceited, and, and, maybe

it, is, but, like, I, do, I, go, on, a, couple times, a, week, on, our, hockey, uh, brand, Edge workk, I'm, not, the, best, hockey, better, in the, world, at, this, point, maybe, I, never was, but, I, was, I, was, up, there, like, for

years, my, models, numbers, were, the, closing numbers, like, that, that's, the, people, that were, moving, for, me, had, so, much confidence, in, those, numbers, that, they would, bet, them, to, those, numbers, and, we can, draw, like, 500, views, on, a, day, where

i'm, on, and, there's, like, another, hockey live, stream, where, I, I, listen, to, the, guy talk, that's, doing, like, 10K, views, daily it, it's, not, the, game, is, is, changed, it's about, who, can, Market, themselves, the, best it, has, nothing, to, do, necessarily, with

the, sharpness, and, and, people, just, don't want, it, and, and, you, got, to, come, to realize, that, at, some, point, so, for, me, as much, as, I, don't, love, the, direction, that they're, going, if, your, goal, is, to, appeal

to, the, masses, this, seems, to, be, working relative, to, what, you, know, letting, Man, Of The, Vig, Grill, someone, for, half, an, hour on, a, space, that, just, doesn't, seem, to, be working, yeah, I, mean, if, I, I, do, wonder, if

there, is, there's, at, least, a, little, bit more, there's, casual, viewers, and, then there's, people, who, are, actually, locked in, and, listening, I, would, guarantee, you you, know, I'm, you're, sure, you, guys actually, have, metrics, that, look, at, it

but, you, know, there's, more, buyin, from people, who, are, seriously, considering, the information, than, probably, a, lot, of, this kind, of, background, noise, uh, you, know crazy, whatever, like, if, whatever, noo spaces, pop, up, they're, much, more, likely

to, tune, in, because, they're, just, chasing the, next, high, as, opposed, to, someone, who once, you, start, to, listen, to, someone, for a, while, you, know, you, start, to, get, in, the habit, of, listening, to, them, and everything, like, that, and, I, think, that, in

some, areas, it's, it's, really, easy, to criticize, whatever, content, is, playing and, I, know, that, I, can, probably, look, at my, shell, for, that, a, lot, of, times, it's like, oh, but, you're, doing, nothing, like, at least, they're, trying, to, put, some, kind, of

good, into, the, like, you, know, even, if, it's not, the, absolute, sharpest, or, they, got one, thing, wrong, it's, still, probably, net positive, but, these, are, absolutely, zero net, positive, there's, pretty, much, nothing that, is, being, uh, gained, or, insightful, it

it, also, cracks, me, up, that, they're, like all, right, you, know, Spanky, you, come, on here, multi-millionaire, you, know, one, of the, most, successful, betters, ever, and then, we're, going, to, give, equal, time, to man, the, library, you, think, sports, are

scripted, go, ahead, like, what's, your counter, it's, you, know, I, like, how, absurd that, sounds, and, like, when, you, actually lay, it, out, is, insane, but, it, really, is, uh we're, g, to, do, some, rapid, fire, here, in, a

second, before, we, do, quick, plug, because it's, very, topical, right, now, tomorrow morning Friday, 8:00, amm, eastern, time, we're debuting, a, brand, new, second, Circle, back of, the, week, with, a, new, cast, of characters, Jacob, will, be, hosting, Joey

KES, Chris, dekus, flop, no, Li, and, Jeff nadoo, you, do, not, want, to, miss, that, we're doing, two, a, week, going, forwards, because you, know, what, we, got, to, capitalize, on the, entertainment, Trend, that's, what, we do, when, we're, in, the, content, space, uh

but, a, interesting, cast, of, characters honestly, might, even, be, better, than, the Tuesday, shows, so, you're, going, to, want, to check, that, out, Mike, rapid, fire, I, like doing, this, kind, of, stuff, with, guests, uh a, lot, of, these, have, just, they, came

through, q&as, when, I, had, can, studio, so, I might, as, well, fire, some, stuff, at, you, as well, uh, worst, bad, beat, of, your life, I, don't, know, if, it's, the, worst, one but, I, will, say, the, the, Super, Bowl, this

season, uh, it, was, to, back, toback, I, had under, uh, two, and, a, half, people, throwing the, pass, and, I, looked, into, it, and, I, was like, well, you, know, the, Eagles, and, I, I don't, bet, NFL, so, I'm, kind, of, hopping, in

a, Super, Bowl, I, try, to, do, the, props, that are, not, being, priced, every, week, y because, obviously, those, are, getting, more bet, in, place, by, people, who, know, what they're, doing, uh, you, know, if, it's, kind of, more, random, more, kicking, stuff, that's

stuff, that, you, can, hop, in, once, a, year and, there's, not, as, much, State, on, it, so, I did, the, under, two, and, a, half, passes, I was, really, proud, of, like, looking, into, it I'm, like, you, know, with, the, Eagles

defensive, line, they're, just, not, going, to have, time, to, run, any, kind, of, slow developing, play, and, then, you, have, Chris Jones, and, you, know, looked, into, all, the different, types, of, passes, for, some reason, I, just, didn't, even, think, of, the

like, Prospect, of, a, backup, QB, coming, in and, throwing, a, pass, and, I, was, like, when Nick, FS, comes, in, I, I, was, like, he, he's not, gonna, throw, a, pass, if, you, have, the backup, in, he's, at, least, gonna, just, hand

the, ball, off, so, that, one, was, tough, uh especially, because, it, came, after, I, was really, big, on, longest, field, goal, under, I had, it, at, 49, 48, 47, and, a, half, um everybody, knew, Jake, Elliot, hadn't, made

long, kicks, all, year, um, but, also, Harrison bucker, when, he, after, came, back, from, the hamstring, he, only, had, one, attempt, of, 50 plus, yards, uh, and, it, was, at, Mile, High, at the, end, of, the, half, so, I, felt, really

good, about, that, one, and, on, that, third down, the, Eagles, got, I, don't, know, if, it was, like, six, yards, and, moved, it, within it, was, to, make, it, a, 40, uh, four, Yer, I said, I, even, said, out, loud, to, myself, oh

at, least, it's, within, the, thing, and, then that, foul, start, kind, of, that, backed, it up, to, make, it, good, at, every, single number, I, was, like, ah, that, was, a, killer um, so, I, I, mean, had, worse, beats, but, like

having, those, back, to, back, in, the, same game, really, for, this, season, stung because, it's, also, a, Super, Bowl, only comes, every, so, often, so, you, really, like there's, extra, pressure, to, have, it, be, a profitable, day, and, that, like, took, me

from, I, mean, I, had, so, much, on, the, field goal, one, was, like, one, of, the, bigger positions, I've, had, so, that, was, rough Yeah, you, mentioned, Nick, fos, it, was, Kenny picket, that, was, but, we, we, always, get, our

backup, quarterbacks, and, Carson, Wentz, on the, other, side, who, was, warming, up, as well, at, one, point, in, the, game, um, anyways yeah, too, many, former, Eagles, backups there, you, know, exactly, uh, okay, on, the other, side, of, things, the, best, win, you've

ever had, uh, when, I, was, kind, of, you, know, first starting, off, I've, been, betting, but, when your, bank, R, is, still, growing, it, has, the chance, to, grow, kind, of, more exponentially, which, is, exciting, uh Caesars, had, just, a, flip, line

of, the, heat, were, up, two1, against, the Knicks, in, the, Eastern, Conference semi-finals, and, they, had, the, heat, with, a worst, chance, to, win, the, Eastern Conference, Finals, it, it, was, obviously, a wrong, line, which, um, you, know, I, went, back

to, my, house, got, some, cash, out, that, as much, as, I, could, on, it, um, and, you, know, if you, just, won, that, it, would, be, great, they end, up, winning, it, was, plus, 900, I, think um, but, what, ended, up, happening, was, I

waited, to, I, was, gonna, hedge, it, out, and, I was, like, ah, I'm, gonna, wait, through, the first, game, I, didn't, think, the, first, game line, was, totally, right, you, know, probably not, was, definitely, was, not, at, that, time

enough, better, to, actually, know, but, I waited, for, the, first, two, games, Miami wins, the, first, two, um, I, end, up, betting actually, for, the, series, to, go, seven, when I, do, it, at, Westgate, they, adjust, only, the

Boston, side, of, it, so, I, bet, Miami, in seven, so, then, Boston, goes, down, 3, 0, I, bet Boston, all, three, games, going, into game7, and, I, ended, up, like, I, mean, I, think I, ended, up, being, like, almost, double, my

bankroll, on, this, single, bet, that, I, ended up, getting, Miami, to, win, the, Eastern Conference, Miami, to, win, in, seven, uh, game to, go, seven, games, won, three, Boston, bats it, was, just, like, a, alltime, series, of euphoria, amazing, great, story, love, to

hear, stuff, like, that, um, me, and, kenish were, asked, the, most, obscure, market, we've ever, bet, on, I'm, betting, Japanese, stock exchanges, I, know, you, bet, some, UFL, but there's, got, to, be, there's, got, to, be, more obscure, than, that

this, year, um, the, the, Pro, Bowl, Market, I bet, the, Pro, Bowl, total, some, a, book, that I, uh, have, is, an, offshore, uh, you, know some, of, these, books, you, know, they, allow unlimited, parlays, yep, basically, to, some

extent, so, the, Pro, Bowl, scoring, changed last, year, prior, to, the, theme, they, put, in these, like, they, have, these, mini, games that, are, worth, six, points, to, piece, and they, had, it, by, quarters, and, they switched, it, to, doing, it, by, half, I, think

so, they, changed, it, last, year, and, the total, went, way, up, so, they, kind, of, did, an average, for, the, Pro, Bowl, total, um, of, the like, the, past, three, years, or, however since, it's, been, touch, when, it, really

should, have, been, higher, than, that, and then, they, added, two, more, like, mini, games which, should, have, raised, the, total, by, an additional, 12, points, so, I'm, looking, at this, I'm, like, okay, it's, priced, wrong sweet, they, didn't, realize, the, rule

change, and, I, go, to, hit, like, B, Max, and the, limits, this, I, mean, this, account, was like, relatively, new, but, it's, not, $9,000 limits, so, like, I, was, expecting, just, to be, like, these, little, couple, hundred dollar, things, I'm, like, looking, I'm, like

what, they're, taking, the, same, limits, as they, would, on, uh, you, know, a, full, game like, normal, NFL, game, total, so, I, look, I'm like, okay, I, thought, I, was, right, before but, if, I'm, going, to, be, hammering, this, I

got, to, really, make, sure, yeah, the, pro they, don't, release, an, official, rule, book for, the, Pro, Bowl, so, I'm, like, looking, at random, like, press, releases, at, the, NFL and, trying, to, like, triple, check, every single, thing, to, make, sure, that, this

total, like, that, the, rules, are, what, I think, they, are, because, it's, not, like anybody, actually, gives, a, [ __ ], about, the Provo, rules, so, I'm, like, really, trying, to double, check, and, everything, is, just, a press, release, I, can't, tell, if, it's, right

but, finally, I, like, really, like, lock, into to, three, different, sources, make, sure that, the, rules, are, what, I, think, and, had you, know, a, sizable, position, on, Pro, Bowl uh, over, this, game, and, let, me, tell, you

you, want, to, talk, about, a, sweat, when nobody, gives, their, [ __ ], about, the, game that's, occurring, and, I'm, like, y, I'm, like you, gotta, get, out, of Bones, they're, just, like, casually, jogging around, them, screaming, for, team, ey, so

yeah, that, would, that, was, uh, this, year, so it, was, uh, it, did, go, over, thank, God, uh bet, online, I, think, open, the, line, it, was like, 12, points, below, what, it, should, be so, I, just, kept, hitting, it, continuously

as, they, like, would, adjust, it, by, 10, cents each, time, I, was, like, I, can't, believe, I have, pro, bowl, over, so, yeah, that, would, be the, one, I, love, that, story, I've, actually had, some, real, sweats, over, the, years, on

uh, on, Allstar, games, across, different leagues, as, well, always, yeah, they, don't play, like, a, regular, game, so, stuff, that applies, that, you, just, know, is, going, to happen, in, a, regular, game, guy's, going, to go, out, of, bounds, stop, the, clock, this, and

that, yeah, just, doesn't, apply, to, you, know NHL, All-Star, games, you, can, cap, them, all you, want, but, uh, when, one, guy, shows, up that, doesn't, give, a, [ __ ], and, he's, just out, for, a, leisurely, skate, you, know

you're, yelling, at, the, TV, for, sure, but but, those, are, where, the, real, Ed, like, you know, everybody, know, when, you're, trying to, price, something, that, like, everybody has, a, good, idea, of, what, the, question actually, is, that, the, EDG, can, only, be, so

big, but, if, you, know, that, actually, we're playing, a, totally, different, ball, game here, I, remember, for, the, NBA, Allstar, game Anthony, Edwards, said, he's, like, oh, I'm going, to, shoot, left-handed, so, when, that came, out, you, have, to, just, go, try, to, find

every, honor, you, can, it's, like, you, know whatever, the, price, is, you, just, gota, he's playing, leftand, you, got, to, try, to, find, a way, so, like, those, are, really, like, the Dumber, the, bet, in, a, way, the, bigger, the

edge, can, be, so, y, That's, where, if, you're able, to, find, a, way, where, you, can actually, get, get, down, on, it, those, are like, the, real, exciting, ones, where, they don't, give, a, [ __ ], what's, happening, on

the, field, and, you're, like, I, actually care, so, much, more, than, anyone, involved in, this, game, right, uh, if, you, could, grab dinner, with, three, people, we're, limiting it, to, three, from, gambling, Twitter, who's at, the, table, with, you

Mike, so, first, one, I, want, I, I, have, two choices, here, I, think, we, do, c blz, grp, and zilbert, I, think, we, finally, solved, this war, in, the, Middle, East, thing, we, put these, three, Minds, together, maybe, while

with, their, knockout, racism, real, quick, I think, that, put, those three, grp, with, you, is, g, to, knock, you said, racism, not, sexism, never, mind, you can, go, yeah, no, there's, limits, to, what, we can, do, okay, even, even, those, Minds, you

know, there's, limits, I'll, have, uh, JP teach, me, his, napkin, under, the, plate trick, to, keep, the, syrup, on, one, actually I, gotta, say, this, a, good, idea, it's, like everybody's, joking, with, them, I, was, like that's, actually, a, very, that's, a, pretty

thoughtful, thing, I'm, not, gonna, lie, to you, I've, since, been, out, for, breakfast one, one, time, and, I, had, french, toast, on the, side, and, I, I, did, the, uh, I, did, the napkin, trick, it, it's, it's, good, I, was

concerned, I'd, have, issues, like, cutting on, the, other, side, of, the, plate, you, don't it, actually, is, totally, fine, so, uh, grp affecting, affecting, lives, out, there, for the, better, uh, no, but, uh, for, actually, I would, say, one, uh, Rufus, I, think, Rufus, is

probably, obviously, much, much, better better, than, I, am, but, I, think, he, kind, of sees, things, similarly, in, the, fact, that it, always, seems, like, he's, trying, to, pick out, what, the, question, is, I, guess, rather then, what's, the, best, way, to, solve, this

it's, should, we, actually, be, asking, a different, question, entirely, uh, so, I think, kind, of, just, asking, him, a, few things, kind, of, about, how, how, he approaches, it, would, be, interesting, uh Spanky, because, he's, the, exact, opposite

of, what, I, am, um, you, know, I, I, would really, any, kind, of, tap, down, better, I think, would, be, interesting, just, because I, don't, because, I'm, trying, to, always, you know, bet, earlier, with, propser, not, really following, the, market, that, much, uh, with

college, football, if, I, was, betting, larger I, would, probably, you, know, be, more, in tune, with, where, the, market, is, moving, and things, like, that, because, you're, waiting till, later, uh, so, anybody, who, kind, of understands, how, the, markets, work, I, think

that, that, would, be, really, interesting just, to, kind, of, you, know, gauge, their opinion, on, when, how, different, things work, like, that, because, that's, an, area that, I, don't, think, I'm, very, good, at, um and, then, third, I, kind, of, cheated, Bill

Connelly, is, a, college, football, Advanced stats, guy, I, think, he's, probably, the, most underrated, of, the, advanced, you, know, if you're, talking, like, Bill, James, Dean Oliver, you, know, kind, of, the, advanced stats, people, that, kind, of, brought, it, to

the, Forefront, yeah, he, did, for, college football, I, think, he, and, he's, like, still ready, now, obviously, not, that, old, of, a guy, it's, just, college, football, was, so far, behind, I, just, think, he's, kind, of, got a, really, interesting, perspective, I, love

Bill, Connelly, I, uh, I, saw, him, in, Boston, a few, weeks, back, we, chatted, for, a, little bit, uh, I, spent, a, Super, Bowl, with, him, in Costa, Rica, where, we, were, at, a, bet, online party, uh, it, was, the, worst, Super, Bowl

ever, was, the, Rams, Patriots, year, um, but we, had, a, blast, big, fan, of, Bill, Connelly um, yeah, yeah, anybody, anybody, who's learning, or, trying, to, get, more, into college, football, betting, or, college football, analytics, his, like, he, call, it's

like, a, study, hall, series, he, wrote, for ESP, Nation, I, think, is, kind, of, like, the that's, the, place, you, start, with, and, then you, can, go, from, there, yeah, uh, before, we wrap, I, I, know, there's, a, charity, you

wanted, to, highlight, there, was, one, thing you, asked, of, me, for, this, uh, interview, um so, I'll, give, you, the, floor, and, you, let people, know, however, they, can help, yeah, um, so, uh, April, is, Autism Awareness, Month, uh, you, know, if, you, work

in, sports, betting, you, probably, work, with someone, who's, somewhere, on, the, Spectrum um, but, in, all, seriousness, uh, my, my sister, uh, is, autistic, and, uh, there's, a organ, organiz, for, autism, research, I'll tweet, out, the, link, um, uh, you, can, also, go

to, it, just, research, autism.org uh, and, they, have, done, some, work, uh, in the, community, by, where, my, parents, live um, helping, out, different, places, and, uh you, know, everything, I've, seen, about, them they've, done, a, great, job, so, uh, anything

that, you, can, do, to, support, them, I, think they, help, out, a, lot, of, families, who, need it, um, it's, not, an, easy, situation, to, deal with, a, lot, of, times, so, uh, again, I'll I'll, tweet, out, something, uh, with, a, link

or, you, can, go, to, research, autism.org, we will, put, it, in, the, link, in, the description, below, so, anyone, can, check, it out, uh, noble, cause, really, appreciate, you you, giving, that, out, and, uh, definitely, I can, say, and, I, don't, mean, this, as, a, joke

but, there, are, a, lot, of, people, in, the sports, betting, space, who, are, autistic, I deal, with, some, of, them, on, a, daily, basis um, some, levels, worse, than, others obviously, uh, but, uh, I'm, I'm, all, for donating, to, to, Great, causes, and, we'll

definitely, put, that, in, the, link, in, the description, below, Mike, um, before, we, wrap it's, that, time, uh, plus, EV, minus, EV, moves of, the, week, I'll, give, you, the, floor could, be, anything, you, want, it's, on you, sure, so, plus, EV, uh, I, think, that, I

was, uh, reading, an, article, um, or, I, was listen, to, a, podcast, actually, don't, take the, time, to, actually, read, the, article listen, to, an, podcast, where, they, talked about, the, article, where, uh, it's, written by, Ben, Thompson, he's, a, technology, writer

and, he, talked, about, uh, whenever, you, see whenever, he, sees, a, technology, business do, something, that's, just, completely, dumb that, you, never, you, like, what, everybody just, is, pressing, for, he, thinks, okay, but you, know, why, would, a, smart, person, do

this, and, I, think, that, a, lot, of, times with, sports, we just, a, lot, of, times, we, have, this, idea, of oh, what, a, dumb, decision, like, you, know it's, not, like, those, guys, go, in, and, one they're, probably, not, complete, idiots, if

they've, gotten, to, this, level, that, you're watching, it, or, whatever, and, two, it's, not like, the, go, in, and, they, haven't, thought about, this, decision, before, it's something, they, thought, about, constantly and, while, you, might, not, agree, with, them

at, the, end, of, the, decision, I, think, it goes, even, Beyond, like, you, know, there's um, uh, steel, Manning, a, case, where, you kind, of, take, your, points, and, you, take the, counterpoints, I, think, to, actually put, yourself, in, their, shoes, and, think

okay, how, could, they, come, to, a, completely different, conclusion, than, I, would, based on, the, same, set, of, circumstances, and, I think, it, can, help, you, kind, of, cover, up some, blind, spots, where, one, you, can, view things, in, a, different, way, and, two, you

can, think, okay, what, do, I, not, know, here is, there, additional, information, that, I'm not, privy, to, um, that, can, kind, of, impact the, decision, at, hand, yeah, uh, that's unlike, anything, we've, we've, heard, before I'm, all, for, for, new, takes, in, this

segment, uh, minus EV, um, you, don't, have, to, optimize everything, so, say, you, just, wanted, to purchase, a, bottle, of, wine, and, you thinking, what, can, I, do, you, could, just, go to, the, store, I, know, where, we're, going, I

know, where, we're going, in, in, all, seriousness, I, I, think that, a, lot, of betters, there's, just, a, natural, sense, of and, I, I, fall, into, this, habit, this, is, the reason, I, like, came, up, with, it, is, every

single, decision, I'm, like, trying, to, get drain, the, most, out, of, every, resource, in every, situation, and, sometimes, like, in the, you, know, small, little, discreet moment, you, are, getting, the, most, out, of it, but, the, aggregate, of, trying, trying, to

get, the, just, most, efficient, outcome, and every, single, decision, you, make, can, be kind, of, draining, so, I, I, had, a, real, free uh, experience, uh, a, couple, months, ago, I was, like, you, know, what, I, I'm, just, not

going, to, give, a, [ __ ], about, credit, card points, anymore, I'm, just, going, to, do whatever, I'm, gonna, look, at, I'll, get, one card, that, I, think, is, relatively, decent but, it's, just, not, something, I'm, ever going, to, focus, on, again, and, whatever

it's, cost, me, it's, paid, off, tfold, in, far as, just, being, mentally, not, having, to work, about, that, and, I, think, a, lot, of times, another, example, kind, of, funny, one is, at, the, grocery, store, they, have, you

know, the, pre-bought, pineapple, that, you can, buy, where, they, cut, it, for, you, and they, put, I, used, to, I, used, to, think, who the, hell, would, buy, that, just, buy, and, cut the, pineapple, yourself, it, cost, so, much

more, to, do, this, and, you, know, what, I would, do, never, buy, pineapple, and, never cut, pineapple, so, if, you, just, try, to, seek out, every, single, most, optimized, thing it's, just, really, a, chore, to, go, through so, obviously, I, have, that, tendency, to, try

to, do, it, but, just, ease, up, on, it, a, little bit, and, I, think, it, will, make, things, a little, less, stressful, for, you, that brings, back, like, a, very, random, memory, in life, where, I, showed, up, at, a, pool, party

once, and, uh, someone, showed, up, after, me and, they, just, they, just, brought, a, uh full, pineapple, to, the, party, and, it, just it, just, sat, on, the, table, and, I, was thinking, like, when, I, was, in, the, I'm, like

it'd, be, really, nice, to, have, some pineapple, right, now, but, who, the, hell's going, to, cut, that, why, would, they, not just, buy, the, precord, pineapple, anyways very, random, moment, in, life, I, haven't thought, about, that, in, a, long, time, but

you, know, that, would, be, my, minus, EV, move of, the, week, if, you're, going, to, show, up to, a, like, a, pool, party, with, fruit, you you, you, got, to, like, if, you, you, bring, a fruit, platter, you, know, with, the, stuff

already, cut, up, don't, show, up, with, a, full melon, and, just, hand, it, to, the, host, there like, it's, not, the, way, do, in, general, any kind, of, party, the, most, underrated, aspect of, any, kind, of, food, you, bring, there, is

ease, of, use, nobody, wants, to, sit, down, and have, this, big, complicated, thing, it's like, what, can, I, kind, of, just, what, can get, me, through, the, day, as, I'm, you, know focused, on, other, things, I'm, not, here, to

have, a, meal, so, you're, right, yeah anything, that, I, have, to, cut, up, I'm, just going, to, pass, on, 100%, minus, EV, I've, seen people, show, up, around, Christmas, time with, like, full, walnuts, you, know, like, who the, hell, wants, to, crack, the, walnuts, with

the, Nutcracker, just, get, buy, the, walnuts that, are, already, out, of, the, shell, I don't, understand, it, I, don't, get, it, don't do, it, people, do, not, show, up, and, be, one of, those, people, that's, going, to, make, the

host, do, work, it's, a, big, mistake, what's not, a, mistake, would, be, following, Mike, on Twitter, mrmr, uncore, peanut, better, great follow, in, my, opinion, that's, just, my opinion, some, people, might, say, you're, not a, great, follow, I, happen, to, a, fact, I

would, I, would, go, far, enough, I, would, say it's, actually, ver, we'll, we'll, ask, chat JP, we'll, get, on, this, uh, maybe, I'll, bring it, up, to, C, blz, and, grp, at, the, table, that we, have, and, we'll, get, them, on, it, we'll

have, them, figured, out, I, got, to, say, I, I know, know, you, were, joking, about, that table, I'm, not, a, c, bless, guy, I, think, he's just, like, really, boring, and, annoying, but I, would, Hep, yeah, he's, better, in, small

samples, he, was, you, know, he, was, the, Muse in, my, eye, for, a, little, bit, uh, then, it's really, gone, to, zilbert, now, I, think zilbert, is, just, Peak, levels, of, Comedy when, he, let, the, dart, in, his, latest, video

I, was, like, that, I, mean, that, really, was the, peak, I, think, and, I'll, eventually, get bored, I'm, sure, and, find, someone, else that, you, know, to, laugh, with, but, I, think that, uh, yeah, I, I, agree, with, yanc, BL, he's

a, small, sample, guy, you, got, to, he, really kind, of, came, in, hot, and, then, he, was, like the, Yas, o, of, gambling, Twitter, Bingo great, great, comp, he, came, in, he, was firing, nobody, knew, who, the, hell, this, guy

was, he, emerged, on, the, scene, videos, were funny, for, a, little, bit, and, then, you're like, there's, just, nothing, more, to, this act, I'm, done, with, it, I, mean, you, could say, that, about, a, lot, of, people, but, their

acts, are, like, gp's, act, is, in, my, opinion might, be, put, into, bag, on, his, head, he might, be, you know, he, might, be, hitting, on, a, random woman, that's, half, his, age, he, might, be putting, napkins, under, plat, see, he's, just

got, the, one, move, so, big, fan, of, the, grp co, mask, which, was, yes, the, Ziploc, bag over, over, don't, recommend, that, people but, uh, yeah, those, that, was, that, was content, at, its, peak, make, sure, you, follow

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