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Good morning, everybody. Ah! This is my seat. This is for smarter guys. All right, I have a question for the oil. The oil should know this, but I saw the Israelis had an issue with it.
Deep dive into halachic laws of shechita on animals and birds, exploring trachea cuts, blood covering, and related Talmudic discussions.
Key Takeaways
- Partial cuts to an animal's trachea under 50% do not necessarily render it non-kosher.
- Wild animals (chaya) have different shechita requirements than birds, with some cases not requiring shechita at all.
- Covering blood (kisia dam) is required in certain cases but not universally, depending on the animal and method of slaughter.
- Shechita of birds is mandated by Rabbinic law rather than explicit Torah law, leading to halachic debate.
- Proper cutting of the trachea and esophagus is critical to valid shechita; mistakes can invalidate the kosher status.
Summary
- Discussion of halachic implications when an animal's trachea is partially cut and the animal is left for hours before completing shechita.
- Explanation that cuts less than 50% in trachea or corner do not render the animal treif or an avella.
- Analysis of the difference between shechita requirements for chaya (wild animals) versus birds, based on Torah verses and Gemara.
- Exploration of the concept of kisia dam (covering blood) and its halachic necessity depending on the type of animal and method of killing.
- Examination of the halachic status of animals that are hunted or killed without shechita and the implications for consumption.
- Review of the specific areas of the trachea and esophagus that invalidate shechita if cut improperly.
- Discussion of the halachic debate whether birds require shechita by Torah law or only by Rabbinic decree.
- Consideration of practical scenarios such as needing animal blood for non-food purposes and how that affects shechita requirements.
- References to classical sources including Rashi, Gemara, and various Rabbinic authorities to clarify complex halachic points.
- Illustrations of how halachic principles apply differently to various animals like cows, deer, and chickens.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and initial halachic question about partial trachea cuts
- 01:36Discussion on animal strength and shechita implications
- 02:55Gemara analysis on spilling blood and shechita requirements
- 04:13Clarifying bird versus wild animal shechita laws
- 05:30Invalid areas of trachea and esophagus in shechita
- 06:44When covering blood (kisia dam) is required
- 08:25Practical uses of blood and halachic ramifications
- 10:49Case studies and further halachic clarifications
- 12:22Halachic debates on shechita of birds and wild animals
- 12:47Summary of shechita principles and concluding remarks
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So, I'm going to ask the shala here. Person takes a cow, shocks its trachea halfway, 50%, goes home, takes a nap for 4 hours, comes back, shocks the other 50%, and the esophagus.
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50% of the corner, takes a nap, goes back, don't answer you over there. What's the halacha? Good or not good? Do not answer either.
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Let's think about it. If he shocks it, so everybody, so if he shocks it 45%, is the animal treif or an avella? What is the animal?
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It's nothing. It's nothing. If it has a hole in the corner and the trachea, it's nothing.
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Up to a half, it's nothing. It's as if nothing happened. So, let's start over again. You have an animal that has a cut trachea of less than 50%.
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So, nothing happened to it. So, it went to sleep. So, it went to sleep. It's not a shia. Pretend there's no shita at all. There's something called kisia dam. His advice fish and AI, complete AI.
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How do I know it's AI? Because it would take about 10 people to grab this animal.
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At least 10. Probably 10 wouldn't even do it. He just knocks it to the ground.
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It's almost his voice. And he's just sitting there. Yeah, shock me. I don't care.
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So if you shecht a deer, like a like like that kind of animal, a gazelle, a deer, it's a chaya.
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You chaya and kisa dam. There's one other thing that you have to do kisa dam, too, and that is a chicken, a bird.
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This is the possuk. V'ish ish m'vnei Yisrael asher yotzei tzeid, you trap chaya oy oyef or bird asher v'shofach es damo, you spill its blood v'chisah b'ofer.
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So what wants to learn that the word v'shofach shofach is very strange. Shofach means you spill its blood. You killed it.
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Doesn't say sh'chitah. Should have said v'shofach es v'shofach es damo v'chisah b'ofer. V'shofach is a loshon of non-sh'chitah. So you see that a bird, you don't have to shecht. What's the Avi's question?
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What about a chaya? It's in the same possuk. And then v'shofach goes on a chaya too.
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So, says the Gemara, shenemar v'shofach, v'v'shifchah am bisagi, just spilling its blood is okay.
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Yachi chinami. So so it come out that a wild animal, too, you don't have to do sh'chitah. Says Gemara, it kash l'psulei mukdashin.
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There's something called psulei mukdashin. Basically, if I bring a sheep to the Beis Hamikdash as a korban, and I find out that it has a broken leg on the way, so I have to redeem it.
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And now what? Once it's redeemed, what do I do? So the Torah says, this is the possuk. Bish'arecha tichlenu, you could eat it normally in your house. Bish'arecha, in your gates.
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It doesn't have to be in the Beis Hamikdash. Hatave v'hatayeach t'chilu chayo. You eat it like you eat a tzvi, like you eat a deer. What does that mean? You have to shecht it.
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Says the if nami it kash to me anyway. So, so if that's the case, then a bird also you would have to shecht because we said yesterday that it says the word bird and behema in the same pasuk. The
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shiv zai shars habahema ba'ayif. And just like in a behema you have to shecht, so too a bird.
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Well, you're right. Hoch shiv shars habahema. But what should I do? I have this pasuk we just saw, v'shavach. And that's an exclusion that you don't have to shecht.
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But it could be a chaya, it could be a ayif. Which one is it? It's only one of the two.
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U'ma chazis sharsli al ayif shari al chaya? Maybe the word v'shavli spills blood goes on a on a chaya, not on a bird.
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So, the Gemara must establish from the pasuk. If you look at the pasuk here on the chart, it says chaya, ayif, v'shafach. Which word is closest to the word v'shafach? The word ayif. So, ayif is the one that you don't have to
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shecht. So, now the Gemara is going to ask a bunch of questions on Reb Yitzchak ben Pinchas. He says d'mide d'Oraisa, and let's go back to daf chof. We learned this about a week ago. There's three options when it comes to a bird. Either
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there's a pasuk that tells me that I have to shecht the chicken, or Moshe Rabbeinu heard it from the Ribono shel Olam, that's called halacha l'Moshe miSina. It's not in the Torah meforesh, but Moshe Rabbeinu heard it. Or it's
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just d'Rabbanan. There's no reason to to shecht the a bird. Rabbanan Rabbanan said you have to shecht the bird.
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So, we're going to ask a bunch of questions in Maseches Achshive Reb Yitzchak ben Pinchas will be adai. You're performing shechita, and you start shaking like a leaf, and you ruin the whole shechita. You know, you went above the the tabasach d'Oraisa. Or
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like Reb Avraham Weiss pointed out to me, below the the the This is the trachea.
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There's two There's two areas that are pasul. All the way in the top, by the tongue, you know, where where where the trachea connects over there, by the tabasach d'Oraisa. But also where it connects to the lung.
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If you shecht below that area, it's also treif. Says the Gemara, it says like this.
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Chanoch Reb Meir Acher. You guys remember what is? It's a pretty interesting picture if you grossed out from these things, don't look.
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Cutting like the wrong way, slicing from from the chin all the way down here like this.
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Or somebody who uproots the trachea. Check this out. If we go back to this possible.
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What does it say? I should also say When do you do a dam? When you're about to eat from this animal. What if I take a deer and I shoot it in the head? I kill it. I hunted I killed it. Am I
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doing a dam? No. I'm not doing a dam. Because it's not I can't eat it.
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So you understand the question. The question is as follows. If I don't have to do on a chicken, there's no you say you say there's no on a chicken.
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So I cut it this way, not that way. I can still eat it. If I can still eat it, I should have I should I should be to do a dam.
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Why does it say here but I don't have to do a dam? That's how you can check it either way. You have to do some sort of action in the in the trachea. That's it. You can do it
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with a pliers. You can do it with a scissors. You can do it so you should be for a dam.
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So you misunderstood. No way. That is only in this picture right over here. Only in a deer. If you do this to a deer, you can't eat the deer. So you don't have to you don't have to cover
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the blood. But if you do this exact action to a chicken, then you do have to do a dam. Why? Because you could eat the chicken according to your pinkos.
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Tashma. Yeah. No, no, no. We were talking about what the deraisa I don't know what he he all the the minimum today according to everybody you have to shach a bird with a rabana.
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We're talking about deraisa. And the of kisser down there is Tashma. Hashoicha betzoich ledam chayev lechases. Today they do many things with the blood. Nothing goes to waste in the shlachtois. There's a lot of stuff you do it it becomes animal feed all sorts
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of stuff. They fish, I don't know what. But in those days there's one or two things you could do with the blood.
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Let's say you need the blood. You need blood. So what if you need blood? You have to cover the blood. And when you cover blood guess what happens? It becomes you can't use it anymore. You're covering with all this dirt.
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It becomes you can't use it. Kisser device but I need I I need a I need to chase away these moths. What do I do?
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I know the only the only thing you can do is shoot in the head. Do a nechirah. Do not do a shchita. You do a nechirah then what?
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Then you can't eat it. If you can't eat it then you don't have to do kisser down my love life. Because same kind of question same answer we're talking about a bird.
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Yenika for these moths. Here we even have a little uh gross thing with the moths. Here they go. Look at them. Mama's alive eating this cloth. But if you put a drop of blood Yeah. Okay. Live bechaya. We're talking
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about a chaya. Once again the same idea. Chaya of course you can't eat the uh a deer after you kill it and not shacht it.
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And the mailer and what do you need the blood for? The kabala may lilaka.
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Uh going back to yesterd
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They they take a white piece of leather you can see behind them it's a kind of white. And he stains it with other. So, instead of staining with yellow, they're staining with uh with red.
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Tashma, again, what are we coming to to answer? We're coming to answer R' Yitzchak ben Pinchas who says that you don't have to shecht a bird min ha Torah, only mid' Rabbanan.
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It says molak bisakin. If you What's molak? So, melika is We're going to have to see this later, but we can show it here. Melika is where you take the fingernail and you go through the the spinal the
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spine and you get to the the esophagus and then the trachea. It's You're going from the other side, from the nape.
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Now, if you did this with a knife, what did he do? He ruined the whole thing.
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Melika is something reserved only in the Beit Hamikdash for a kohen to He cuts into the neck of the bird. The only way to kill a bird in the Beit Hamikdash is through melika. You don't do shechita. This genius decides to do
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melika with a knife, which What does it do? It renders the the bird what? A treifa. Why? Cuz it breaks its neck.
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By the time he cuts his two simanim, it's a treifa. Let's think about it for a second. You have an animal that has a hole in its heart. It's a treifa.
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You only find out after you kill it that it had a giant nail stuck right through its heart. Treifa.
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But the person shechted the this animal. It's a good shechita or not a good shechita?
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It's a good shechita. It takes off tum'ah, so it's a good shechita. You can't eat the animal cuz it had a big giant nail in its heart.
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What? It takes off the tum'ah, 100%. shechting something that was not Doesn't matter, we learned it. It doesn't doesn't matter. Doesn't matter what? There's no tum'ah.
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Really? Shechita says you didn't do a nevelah. Here, here. I I I'm just I'm just The Gemara's going to say it in a second.
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Here we go. Says the Gemara, yeah, we learned it even. Molak bisakin. Mitama bigarmay bisak b'liah. As you saw in the video, as soon as the the the bird goes into his throat, the back of his throat, the
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person becomes tame. Ask the Gemara the Amora and Shmuel Amora if you tell me that you don't have to really shaq the bird.
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You're right. That when the knife goes through the spine, you created a treif. It should be like every treif. Every treif, you take a knife and you shaq and you get rid of the treif.
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So what do you see over here? Why do why doesn't it work? It doesn't work because you're doing drisa. You're doing halada.
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The knife is hidden in the back. You're pushing hard through the spine. You're not going back and forth. That's the problem. So you see that you need a shaqita.
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According to you that you don't need shaqita, what's the problem? Let him go through the back. Let him continue cutting through the simanim and he did a nice shaqita which removes the tuma. Why is this person tame?
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I'm just going to throw something out here. It's again hazara. We just did it in the week or two.
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Why is this bird a treif? This bird is an aveila. When you break its neck, it becomes an aveila, not a treif.
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So what's the answer? We learned this. We have an answer to this. So I'm going to I'm going to tell you Oh oh, Rebbe Basa says Rebbe Mende.
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You're right. It becomes an aveila. And an aveila you can't undo a shaqita. If an animal is an aveila, can't take a dead a dead chicken from a road kill and shaq it. It's it's an aveila.
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So that's only if you break its spine together with the muscle around the spine. So so we said the only way to do it is go from the side and not break the muscle. Not Rebbe Basa. Very good.
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Oh. So he holds no, shaqita of a bird is min ha Torah. It says in the first look at the possuk.
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Nachman. You This psulei mukdashim this shlamim that has a broken leg is going to be like a tzvi v'ayal.
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V'chi mal mal mitzvi v'ayal matah, what do we learn from him? Harei zeh baal lamed, nintza lamed. It's interesting.
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You you trying to learn psulei mukdashim from a from a from a deer? And fakert, the opposite happened. The deer, you're going to learn deer from psulei mukdashim.
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A guy is a magid shiur, he comes to teach daf yomi, he don't teach daf yomi, he learns daf yomi.
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The guy preparing the daf, he he learns because he's teaching, he learns. Nintza, it's just a moshol, yeah?
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He comes to l'lamed, nintza lamed. He comes to teach, he he actually he's the one that's actually learning it. Makish tzvi v'ayal l'psulei mukdashim.
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Mah psulei mukdashim shchita av tzvi v'ayal b'shchita? Fakert, the both side. I didn't learn psulei mukdashim from a deer, I learned that a deer you have shchita in a deer from psulei mukdashim.
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I thought I'm going to learn something from a deer, it turns out I learned deer from you.
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V'ayi v'eino shchita midivrei Torah, ela midivrei sofrim. So it comes out from this possuk that only a deer has shchita min ha Torah, but a chicken according to this mand'amar, only a chicken is only from chachamim. Chachamim. It's only
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d'rabbanan. So mand'amar d'rabbanan kapper. Who's who's going to argue with the gal adar? Rebbi. Rabeinu.
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V'eina kodesh, the one who wrote the Mishnah, he argues. What does he say? Disayi Rebbi Omer.
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V'zavachta ka'asher tzivisi'cha. Milamed nistav Moshe al v'sivcha k'nah. A why you to shach v'zavachta? Like I commanded you. What does I commanded you? I commanded you that you should shach the kor v'eitz v'eitz v'siman.
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B'av Rebbe Akiva Omer, Only one simon and tell you right away one simon with the bird by our schnitzel be hema and two simon and by that's what I told you on our Sinai.
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One of these incredible types of simon Tyson says where did Rebbe get it from?
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Yes, my fortune the Deutsch big material. What's the material? The kosher the word of kosher or let's just take out of shin rage that a share a share rage rubish come on you.
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So it's not so much a big material. It's like a Russia Davis. So if you have a Zion and I want to read to you a unbelievable thing from the regime.
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I saw my in the Zion with Zion near yes, he saw in the different types of simon.
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It's missing. Where's the big material? What's the big material? The son of the rush.
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A reason. He says Rebbe Yakov Krovil. He got shared to be seeking I did a math. Got shared to be seeking came out for me 1,047.
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Big material. Here's the big material. That's what's missing from Tyson. Roy boy Roy be hema. It's also 1,047.
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Got shared to be seeking and Roy boy Roy be hema are identical and that's Rebbe's remotes from the parcel.
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It's not the first time we saw that in Tyson, but it's very rare. Big material that we're learning something from a big material. It's not a cabalistic uh you know, it's one of the things that you learn big material big material.
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Echo boy. Rebbe I say, we know that when it comes to the chicken you don't have to check both simon and the the the the kind of the veggie only one with the rice. Which one? Which one?
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Uh which one do you cut? Either. Either. So that's the Sugya Machlokes. Echad B'Eif, what's the first one?
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What's the first one that you hit? Im Avira d'Alma d'Mitzusa, the first one is the is the trachea.
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Echad B'Eif, it's Mar Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak Amar, Oi Veshes, Oi Konah. You could either or. Rav Ada bar Ahavah Amar, Veshes v'Lo Konah. This is interesting. Only the esophagus, the food pipe, not the breathing pipe. Veshes v'Lo Konah. How
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do you get to the Veshes without the Konah? The way I always understood it, and it seems from Rashi, Rashi says M'forash that it goes Konah, Veshes, and and spine.
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But it's not like that. The the the the the the pictures in Asher b'Rav Yitzchak, it's a little bit on the angle. Like you could get to the Veshes, it first comes Konah, but to the side of it in the back. Here, I'll show you a
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picture. It's more like this. You see, first you hit the white, the Konah, but the Veshes is not directly behind it. The Veshes is behind it, but slightly to the to the to the side. So you could actually come
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from the from an angle and just cut the Veshes and not the Konah. Rav Ada bar Ahavah Amar, Veshes v'Lo Konah. Maya Echad? What does it say Echad? Echad B'Eif. What is Echad?
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M'yuchad. The more important one. Why is the Veshes more important than the Konah? With the Veshes I skipped.
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It says one one of the one of the other. Echad either one you want. Rav Ada bar Ahavah Amar, Veshes v'Lo Konah. Maya Echad?
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M'yuchad. Says one, it means the more important one, the more We I we start off the Shiur. Konah, you could have a cut in the Konah and the animal's not even considered a Treifah. You have a tiny little hole in the trachea, not in
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the trachea, in the esophagus, it's done. Wow, how did it so late? This is simple.
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You're doing a you the the the uh I'm sorry. The uh The esophagus and then the the then the trachea pops out. Why is it kosher? Cuz he did a great he afterwards something popped out. It popped out after the animal's dead. So
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it's kosher. But if the trachea popped out first the uh We have this uh If it popped out first, so it's a treif, no good. What if you did a on the a how do you say it? The esophagus. And
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then you found that the trachea has popped out. You don't know when it popped out, before or after you don't know when it popped out.
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But what's the point? Because like it doesn't say that a person the trachea and the esophagus popped out.
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Why doesn't say that? So what's the answer? Why doesn't it say that a person the he's the trachea and all of a sudden the esophagus popped out?
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So you see the wants to point out you see that you're not allowed to go that's not a good uh uh The only good is if you uh esophagus and the trachea pops out. But if you trachea and the esophagus pops
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out it's not a good cuz you have to one which is that one uh Only But what's the real answer? The real answer is cuz it doesn't happen. It's not something that's common.
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Right. What could happen is for the trachea to pop out, but what never happens is that the esophagus pops out.
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If a person shechted a half a siman of the trachea, half a siman of the esophagus, both in a bird, pasul. Why?
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Cuz he didn't do a rov of the any any of the simanim. Vain tzoch l'mayma, and certainly if you did the same thing in an animal, it doesn't work. Rebbe Doy may boyv.
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So it says by Rebbe Yehuda says by bird, and we're going to talk about this Rebbe Yehuda.
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You have to shecht the veshet. It doesn't say konah. It says veshet. Only the eating tube. And the v'ridim.
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Let's see here, check this out. You have to get that v'rid, that blue thing.
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The jugular, according to to Rashi. She says the v'ridim, but he says before it's only one, and which one?
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The esophagus, not the trachea. What says the Gemara? No. Mishum d'veshet somuch l'v'ridim. It's only it's only because the the that jugular is next to the veshet over here. He shows the momish next to it. So it's easier, but if you shecht the the konah
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and then the v'ridim, you're also good. When we learned last time we learned a chulin, I think the seifer chulin brings it down. I didn't like do research on it.
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He claims that the jugular by kosher animals is in the mokem shechitah. So when you cut the the the simanim, you get the jugular, you get all the good veins, and all the blood comes out. The animal dies very very quickly. By
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non-kosher animals, he claims that the jugular is behind the the spinal cord. And you can't get to it by regular shechitah.
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Oh. Toshma. Shoga geres v'shol k'dei sh'chitah acheres d'Gemara. This is the question I asked in the beginning of the year. You shift a half a corner half a trachea and you went to sleep.
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As long as it takes to do a turn that's called you here. And then he came and he finished off the job.
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It's a good why cuz the first time that you cut is not considered my love both the right to go to bird or my tomorrow tomorrow I got to get us over here you see they cut you could do
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one semen and even the trachea even the corner. You got both things wrong. When it said that it checked that it it wasn't talking about a bird it was talking about a bird.
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And when it said when it said to finish it didn't mean to finish off the trachea. It meant to my tomorrow tomorrow he finished both of them on them.
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If a person same idea comes you find that the corner is half damaged in other words cut.
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And with a knife he went and he made it instead of having it has an incision half 45% incision on the trachea he goes and he cuts more.
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And he finished it. It's a good my love both you talking about a bird and you see that you could be my kind of just on the trachea. Oh my tomorrow tomorrow my love same idea but they have
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a role in talking about an animal. He did this to an animal my tomorrow right?
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Tomorrow we wash it. And that means he finished off not only the trachea but also the esophagus the vesica.
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How do you do going back to just to show it again. Malika is when you take your thumbnail and you go through the back of the the neck the nape through the spine into the esophagus right through the
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trachea. You should not cut the muscle otherwise you render it unavailable. You could get to either or and it says before you should also just the corner and you have malika.
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This is checkmate. It says either or levashes oy lekonah. You ask me which one of the two are you shechting? We had a machlokes. Oh, this is meforesh.
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Even if I shecht the trachea, or not shecht, malika the trachea, that's good. He gives lekonah. And once you get there, chaitus siman echad v'rai basar im you make sure you cut all the muscle.
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U'va'ilu shnaim shnaim and only after sever the whole head, so you have to cut both.
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Tiyufta d'rav Ada bar Ahava, tiyufta tiyufta is very very strong. Says the Gemara may have a valla. At the end of the day, which one of the two do you cut? May have a valla. Kid kamatz, I just established the checkmate, no?
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Checkmate means checkmate. It means that you all all you have to you could cut either or.
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No. The reason why I think it's not a great raya. Shainy Hashem should do my frekus. We're talking about malika.
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You're talking about going from the back, like this picture going right through the mafregus to the spine.
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Says Rashi, therefore if I cut even the konah a little bit, it'll kill the animal cuz the animal's three quarters dead to begin with.
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But if I'm coming from the other side, shchita is from the other side, maybe cutting the konah is not enough. Maybe the animal will continue living. Maybe it's not a good shchita.
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Tashma. Reb Boaz say story time. D'uba d'hava There was a There was a duck.
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An injured duck. Also give me masnis koyadam. Its whole neck was full of blood.
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We have a big problem. How you going to shecht this duck? I need to shecht it quickly before it dies.
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But I don't know if the blood is coming from the trachea, from the esophagus, from its tongue, maybe it had a tooth problem. I don't know where the blood is coming from. Omar what can we do here? It's a big problem.
Speaker A
We'll do the sponsors after the story. I'm going to I'm going to shecht it.
Speaker A
Then I'm going to open up and see whether it had a hole in one of the two simanim. I can't check it. Why? I don't know I give shchak Maybe the knife went exactly into the hole where this blood is the source of
Speaker A
the blood, and I'm not going to see the hole cuz I shechted it. So, check to see if there's a hole beforehand. I can't. Why?
Speaker A
Check this out, beautiful picture. When I check the the esophagus, I can't check on the left one. I can't see that there's a hole here. It blends right in.
Speaker A
But if I check from the inside of the esophagus, since it's white, you could see the hole.
Speaker A
Oh, but that's only after the animal's dead. I can't pull out a a live duck's esophagus and turn it inside out and see if there's a thing. And if I did, what did I do? I made it a treif on the spot.
Speaker A
Um They say treif, but I hear what you're saying. Okay. So, this is this is All my life I was afraid. So, Rav's son, his name was Rav Yosef.
Speaker A
He says, "I have a great idea. With your fingers, you could just run it up and down the trachea from outside and see if it has any holes in it. And only cut through the trachea. The luxury.
Speaker A
So, they'll be kosher because I did one siman. So, what do you see from the story right here? What do we see? The one one siman could be the trachea also.
Speaker A
And after it's dead, then you pull out the vesha and you'll All my life I was afraid. How can you say we are afraid of treif? Wow, that was powerful you said. What a great idea. I love it. It's like
Speaker A
Rashi brings that Shmuel sent 13 camels to to Rav Yosef. I'm a bull. Oh, so when it says in the Mishna that you could shecht one of the simanim, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could shecht even this trachea cuz from this story,
Speaker A
that was that was his great idea to shuck just the cone. Review the says, you have you have to shuck the freedom. Question, why do you have to shuck the freedom? There's two There's two reasons why you shuck the freedom.
Speaker A
Either to drain It's It's a It's a practical way to drain all the blood.
Speaker A
Obviously, you're not allowed to eat blood. It's It's the right way to eat blood. So, have a practical way out of out of out of drain it. There's another reason. Maybe it's part of the shuckita.
Speaker A
Maybe it's like two simon plus the jugular. What's an off camino? The master is an off camino.
Speaker A
Do the hollows of shuckita apply to the veins? Shiya trees on the veins or no?
Speaker A
Take any device, take a plier and go like this and cut it. As long as you you're able to drain the blood.
Speaker A
He says, no, the reason is to drain the blood. I'm giving you practical advice and it's only in a bird you need this practical advice.
Speaker A
It comes to an animal, since you're chopping it up into little pieces, it doesn't matter.
Speaker A
The it's a practical thing. But now, how could that be? But now, there's a freedom. It says in the first lesson of shuckita on the jugular. You have to do shuckita to the jugular.
Speaker A
Poke the freedom here. We're going to see soon. I'm just going to steal it. But I told I told them, you know, it was a little It was a little tough. People that don't like blood. So, you changed it a little bit.
Speaker A
In other words, you don't have to be shuckita as long as you get all the liquids out. And that's not a freedom.
Speaker A
So, what does it say shuckita? Actually, you can carve the shush shuckita. Oh, you can carve the shush shuckita. So, this whole should be done during shuckita. The master is going to say why. Touch my freedom shuckita. It says in the future
Speaker A
shuckita. The review does he see the Indian of shuckita not the Indian of draining the blood. Aim of reading the blood the Indian is to make a hole in it. When during Shita? During Yuda. Touch my Yuda.
Speaker A
If the whole point is just to drain this animal, why does it have to be done by Shita? Do it after Shita 10 minutes later.
Speaker A
You see that it is Shita cuz they're asking this question. I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker A
What's the difference? When you do when you do the the whole Vusava and what's the topic of the Svara? Why does he say do it only during Shita? Because it makes a lot of sense. Because Shita also done the time. It's crying
Speaker A
means hot warm. When the blood is flowing easily, so it's much better to do it by Shita. Shita but if you wait 10 minutes, it's not going to come out. It's not going to come out because it gets it gets starts
Speaker A
congealing. By Yermiya, so I just didn't hear what he said. That what? That it's a practical way to get all the blood out.
Speaker A
What is there a lot of Shita on the jugular? This picture right over here.
Speaker A
You could it doesn't have to be Shita as long as you make a hole in it and drain it. That's enough. Thank Shira. Thank you just four more lines. Thank you say the Shita. Shita Shita Shita my life.
Speaker A
By the way, in our Gamara I was very proud and I was thinking of the Shita that it tells you what he said. Other Gamaras, no. Thank you Shita. We learned of Shita on top of the I don't know what
Speaker A
a lot of us don't even remember what he said. What he is. In our Gamara we're not but these kind of things to bring it in in the official Gamara.
Speaker A
What does it say? What does say? That it's Rebi only said it's a lot of a bird. By a bird there's an issue drainage. By an animal, there's no issue of drainage. That's why we read the same that you have to shecht the v'ridim.
Speaker A
You shecht the two halves, possible. But it's only in a beheima. If you do it in a bird, oy, only in a bird, like Rav Chisda, actually you should only shecht the v'ridim.
Speaker A
You should shecht only in a bird you have to shecht the v'ridim, the jugular.
Speaker A
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Topics:ShechitaHalachaTracheaKashrutChayaBird ShechitaKisia DamGemaraTalmudKosher slaughter
