Can America Be Saved? Conservative and Liberal Clash on… — Transcript

Stephen A. Smith hosts a debate between a GOP Senate candidate and a Democrat on America's political and social crises.

Key Takeaways

America is facing significant political and economic challenges with deep partisan divides.
Both conservative and liberal perspectives agree on the need for stronger leadership and accountability.
Economic issues like inflation and healthcare remain critical concerns for Americans.
There is skepticism about current political leaders but also hope for future leadership from younger generations.
Engaging in civil discourse with opposing views is essential for national unity.

Summary

Stephen A. Smith moderates a discussion between Royce White, a former NBA player and GOP Senate candidate, and Isaiah Martin, a Houston-born Democrat and former congressional candidate.
The conversation explores the current state of America, with Royce describing it as chaotic and lacking leadership, while Isaiah acknowledges issues but defends the current administration.
Royce identifies as a Christo-nationalist, populist, ultra-MAGA, America First patriot, while Isaiah identifies as a liberal Democrat.
Both guests critique political leadership, with Royce blaming the Biden administration for economic woes and Isaiah defending Biden and criticizing Trump’s legacy.
Key topics include inflation, energy prices, healthcare, immigration, election security, and the influence of special interests.
The debate highlights deep partisan divides but also touches on the need for younger generations to lead and the possibility of finding common ground.
Stephen A. Smith emphasizes the importance of engaging diverse perspectives to foster understanding despite disagreements.
The discussion includes critiques of both Trump and Biden administrations, focusing on unmet promises and leadership failures.
Economic challenges such as rising costs, affordability, and inequality are central themes.
The video ends with reflections on the future of America and the role of political leadership in addressing systemic problems.

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Welcome to the special edition of Straight Shooter. Listen, I believe that coming together means engaging with people who don't always agree, and that's exactly what Straight Shooter is all about, showcasing diverse perspectives, as I've told y'all repeatedly. On this episode, I will

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speak with a former NBA player who's now running as a GOP candidate for the United States Senate in Minnesota, and a Houston-born Democrat who was a former candidate for the United States Congress in Texas. Please welcome Straight Shooter with yours truly, the one and

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speak with a former NBA player who's now running as a GOP candidate for the United States Senate in Minnesota, and a Houston-born Democrat who was a former candidate for the United States Congress in Texas. Please welcome Straight Shooter with yours truly, the one and

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Doing great. Good to see you. First order of business, is it appropriate, and I'll start with you first, same question to both of you.

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only Royce White, and of course, Isaiah Martin. Good afternoon, fellas. How y'all doing? How's everything?

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let you answer that question first, just so the audience knows who they're listening to.

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Doing great. Good to see you. First order of business, is it appropriate, and I'll start with you first, same question to both of you.

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I'm an American citizen and a patriot. Um I would probably describe my politics as Christo-nationalist and populist, ultra-MAGA, America First, if we had to if we had to be specific, but I'm an American patriot.

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I'll start with you first, Isaiah. Is it appropriate to call you a liberal, or is there something else you'd like us to call you? And in your case, Royce, you a conservative, or is there something else we'd like you to call you? Isaiah, I'll

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Chaos, crisis, um unmoored from reality, a lack of leadership, a lack of sacred honor, a lack of genuineness, forthrightness, a lack of people who are not willing to be bought and paid for, a lack of epidemic of sellouts.

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let you answer that question first, just so the audience knows who they're listening to.

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I would say that there are elements of the administration that are having some of those issues for sure. I think overall the president of the United States is a man who by all measures was willing and you need these kind of guys to

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Yeah, definitely a liberal. Um, but you know, I'm a Democrat, you know, I've been a Democrat my whole life, so I guess that would be a... What about you, Royce?

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we've created in this country. So every leader is going to be flawed, but you do need people that are just crazy enough to stand up and say crucify me against all all of the uh you know, all of the momentum of of

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I'm an American citizen and a patriot. Um, I would probably describe my politics as Christo-nationalist and populist, ultra-MAGA, America First, if we had to be specific, but I'm an American patriot.

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his life. Younger people are going to have to pick up the mantle and and lead this country in the right direction and I'm proud to be one of the candidates trying to do that.

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When you look at the situations involving America right now, the state of affairs going on in America, let's start with you, Royce. How would you describe the state of America as we see it right now today?

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America to be right now and how much of that do you attribute to this specific administration more so than anything else?

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Chaos, crisis, um, unmoored from reality, a lack of leadership, a lack of sacred honor, a lack of genuineness, forthrightness, a lack of people who are not willing to be bought and paid for, a lack of epidemic of sellouts.

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President of the United States has utterly failed at pretty much everything that he set out to do. He said that we would have gas prices as national average for less than two bucks a gallon. That never happened. He said he

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Uh, there are a lot of problems. Mhm. Would you point to the Trump administration as being included in, uh, this you just gave?

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Healthcare premiums are up. Everything in America cost a lot more than what it was when Trump got started. So yes, it is a lack of leadership and personally I don't believe in participation trophies for these politicians and I believe that

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I would say that there are elements of the administration that are having some of those issues for sure. I think overall the president of the United States is a man who by all measures was willing and you need these kind of guys to

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our tax dollars to invest in America, to go and provide things like universal health care, universal child care.

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stand up and be crazy enough to say crucify me if need be. None of our leaders are going to be perfect. All of them are going to be extremely flawed increasingly and in increasingly decadent culture that

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Before I go back to Royce, Isaiah, let me ask you this question. What do you say to those that would look at the Trump administration and say at the very least it's better than what Biden gave you during his four years in office. How

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that we've created in this country. So every leader is going to be flawed, but you do need people that are just crazy enough to stand up and say crucify me against all of the, uh, you know, all of the momentum of

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inflation is up and unemployment is up. You can see that in private sector investments to build new manufacturing facilities are up. Everything I'm sorry is is down and we see that ultimately the things that Donald Trump set out to

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social norms and the convenience of the status quo and I think President Trump has done that for the better part of 10 years. Now he celebrated his 80th birthday recently. So he's at the tail end of his career and at the tail end of

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the news of the last 24 hours of the developments of this Iran deal, this is an America last agenda that ultimately is leaving Americans behind.

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his life. Younger people are going to have to pick up the mantle and lead this country in the right direction and I'm proud to be one of the candidates trying to do that.

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outset. Any criticism of President Trump and his administration from the left is uh you know, political theater. The only legitimate criticism of President Trump's administration is from the right and saying that he hasn't gone far enough in the things that he wanted to

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Isaiah, ex- you just heard what Royce had to say as a liberal, a Democrat in this nation right now. I'll ask you the same question as that I just asked Royce about what do you believe the state of

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Like for example, uh uh securing our elections, which our elections aren't secure. And if you need a reference, you can go back and listen to Amy Klobuchar and Kamala Harris in the 2018 documentary Kill Chain say that the

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America to be right now and how much of that do you attribute to this specific administration more so than anything else?

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the border. We sealed the border up for the most part, but the border is not restored until we deport the 15 million.

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I actually agree with the beginning of what Royce said is a lack of leadership.

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And yeah, we can go further on down the line, but the only real criticism that I that I, you know, count as legitimate is from the right that President Trump hasn't gone far enough. And the reason he hasn't gone far enough is because the

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President of the United States has utterly failed at pretty much everything that he set out to do. He said that we would have gas prices as national average for less than two bucks a gallon. That never happened. He said he

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And Amy Klob- Actually Actually, wait a second. Amy Klobuchar is the perfect example. You have all these leftists who say free Palestine, but then they're willing to vote for a person like Amy Klobuchar in Minnesota, who's one of the

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would bring inflation down. That never happened. He said he was going to bring our energy bills and cut them in half and said they're up by more than 13%.

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hasn't addressed? Because you even have MAGA Republicans, maybe not you specifically, I don't know. I'm going to let you answer that question, but MAGA Republicans that haven't been on this show, yet anyway, they've bloviated and they've lamented the fact that he hasn't

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Healthcare premiums are up. Everything in America costs a lot more than what it was when Trump got started. So yes, it is a lack of leadership and personally I don't believe in participation trophies for these politicians and I believe that

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He's going against what he campaigned on, which sort of touches, at least to some degree, on what Isaiah alluded to.

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a lot of people that are on the conservative side are constantly looking to give Trump participation trophy. He has utterly failed and I think that personally we need an agenda in the United States that prioritizes common sense. And I believe that that is using

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St. Augustine said it best the the you know, the the definition of perfect definition of virtue is rightly ordered love. Rightly ordered love, rightly ordered charity. Our our foreign policy is not an example of rightly ordered love or charity. And and I would agree

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our tax dollars to invest in America, to go and provide things like universal health care, universal child care.

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Uh but again, the the the spectrum of the criticism criticism is important because even if we said we're going to reallocate some of these these resources and focus to our own home, what is the plan at home? See because if the plan is

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That's the type of direction that I think that America needs to be in and I think that, um, frankly if we get the right leadership, America can be much stronger than what it is today.

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And I am almost certain because I hear them. I'm in Minneapolis where they had the anti-ICE ICE protest.

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Before I go back to Royce, Isaiah, let me ask you this question. What do you say to those that would look at the Trump administration and say at the very least it's better than what Biden gave you during his four years in office? How

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priorities would be rightly ordered under Democrat rule either. We saw that under Biden. So, I'm just not I'm not buying the the the it you know, it's just a it's a scam for them to even don't even bring up the war. They they

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would you, how what would your retort be to that? Fake news. I mean point blank. You can look at facts don't really care about, you know, uh, feelings in many ways and like I said, if you look at inflation,

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You got biolabs popping up there in Ukraine. They didn't mind funding them. They didn't mind funding Fauci's projects with the biolabs and whatever gain of function research. So, these people who criticize President Trump, they're only doing it opportunistically

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inflation is up and unemployment is up. You can see that in private sector investments to build new manufacturing facilities are up. Everything I'm sorry is down and we see that ultimately the things that Donald Trump set out to

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Isaiah, I saw your facial expression wanting to respond to some of the things that he said, particularly when he brought up immigration and obviously when he brought up the war. Your response.

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go and do, he has not delivered on. So, when you look at the economic standpoint of this golden age in America that he thought that we were going to receive, none of that stuff has ended up happening. And if we've been following

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Trump went and put these inflationary tariffs in place that effectively put broad-based tariffs on everything that comes to this country did raise prices.

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the news of the last 24 hours of the developments of this Iran deal, this is an America last agenda that ultimately is leaving Americans behind.

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about the conspiracy theories all he wants, but people can look at direct actions of the Trump administration to see how it has raised their prices. And when you ignore your own intelligence, you ignore Tulsi Gabbard, you ignore Joe

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Royce, how do you respond to that? I think the criticism of President Trump in this particular case is coming from the left. And I regard it to be a legitimate on face value from the

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war despite your own national intelligence, and you raise people's prices as a result, that's someone that does not have the leadership, and frankly the IQ necessary to go forward and actually deliver for the people of this country. And the fact that Royce

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outset. Any criticism of President Trump and his administration from the left is, uh, you know, political theater. The only legitimate criticism of President Trump's administration is from the right and saying that he hasn't gone far enough in the things that he wanted to

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Royce. Royce, your your response. Well, I mean, there's so much wrong with that, where do I start? But, to answer the first last and work my way back, um I I did call it out. I just said that

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do or said he wanted to do to help save this republic, uh, in great part because the public scrutiny and criticism from the middle and from the left would be incredible.

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Again, the contradiction is that the Democrats have any difference of opinion fundamentally on foreign policy, and I gave you the Ukraine war as an example, a very recent example, mind you, of the exact same interpretation of foreign policy. So, your criticism of President

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Like for example, uh, securing our elections, which our elections aren't secure. And if you need a reference, you can go back and listen to Amy Klobuchar and Kamala Harris in the 2018 documentary Kill Chain say that the

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Furthermore, I never said that inflation shouldn't be a concern for the American people. What I'm pointing out is the contradiction for Americans who favor themselves Democrat or critical of the president who say that they're worried about cost and and what our government

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machines can be hacked. They even actually, they actually held a senatorial committee demonstration where they demonstrated that the machines can be hacked. So, that's one thing, but you say another like, you know, restoring the border or closing

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third or fifth rail. It's like the primary It's like the driving sentiment of the Democrat Party platform is we will allow unfettered, unlimited illegal immigrants to come into this country and we will fund it with your tax money. So,

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the border. We sealed the border up for the most part, but the border is not restored until we deport the 15 million.

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Isaiah, I'll let you chime in and answer that question, but I'll I'll do so by asking this and then let you go wherever you want to go with it, all right?

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15 million, conservatively, foreign invaders that Joe Biden and his administration let in this country intentionally.

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years and more importantly, what's your strongest evidence to prove your point in answering that question?

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And yeah, we can go further on down the line, but the only real criticism that I, that I, you know, count as legitimate is from the right that President Trump hasn't gone far enough. And the reason he hasn't gone far enough is because the

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fact that there were broad-based tariffs that Donald Trump went and put that led to an increase in inflation for everybody across this country. He did not address the ACA subsidies that had a direct increase of 26% for health care

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center-right Republican establishment is favorable to liberal and Democrat policies, and they always have been, which is why they protect that status quo.

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Americans, it's very clear. You can look at the job numbers. You know, up until recently, I think 50 of the last 51 million private sector jobs were created under Democratic presidents. You can see, for example, the unemployment rate

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And Amy Klob- Actually, actually, wait a second. Amy Klobuchar is the perfect example. You have all these leftists who say free Palestine, but then they're willing to vote for a person like Amy Klobuchar in Minnesota, who's one of the

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talk about the national debt the Republicans are the ones that had spent like children with their mom's credit cards in Toys "R" Us whenever they get in charge. They are responsible. Trump himself is responsible for more than 25% of the

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most well-funded AIPAC candidates in the entire country. The contradiction is intergalactic. What do you say, though, when Isaiah brings up the fact that inflation, cost of living, affordability issues, those are incredibly pertinent issues that President Trump campaigned on, but h

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to invest in things like universal health care, universal child care, those things. It's the Republican Party that consistently work votes against working conditions that have consistently voted against raising the minimum wage. I happen to believe that the minimum wage

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should be indexed with inflation and should go up with the cost of living. The Republicans do not support that idea. The Republicans were against the tax incentives that were used to create millions of jobs of the previous 4 years

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when Biden was in office. It led to record lows when it comes to unemployment. It's the Republican Party that consistently uses our tax dollars to give tax cuts to the richest people on Earth while we see that when they get

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those things, they invest less to create jobs in America, they invest less to create new manufacturing facilities in America, and they invest less in the American worker, and that's a problem for the people of this country.

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But wouldn't people have an argument or wouldn't people have an argument when they say that Biden spent more money than Trump? Wouldn't people have an argument when they point to, you know, letting illegal immigrants into the country and will it being willing to

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spend money on them, particularly at the expense of some American citizens? There would be no argument in their favor in regards to that, Isaiah?

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Absolutely not whatsoever because if you look at, for example, the Trump administration in 2025 and in 2026 is spending more money than what the Biden administration spent prior to that. If you look at for the Committee for Responsible Budget Report, it literally

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shows $8.4 trillion was added to national debt under was approved by Trump to the national debt the first time he was in office. You compare that to Biden, it was about $4.8 trillion.

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If if to be even more fair to Trump, you can then take out COVID-related spending because that was something that affected both Biden and Trump. That number is about 4.3 trillion dollars under Donald Trump compared to about 2.2 trillion

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dollars under Joe Biden. The math does not add up. The Republicans are the ones that are the responsible for that.

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Just for clarity purposes before I go back to Royce, you're saying that I know we're about 25, 26. Got that. But in Trump's first administration, you're saying that the Biden administration spent less than Trump's first administration. I'm just asking.

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They approved less. You said that. I'm asking. Yeah, they approved less. So, the way you got to look at it, right, is who goes and approve debt? I'll give you a perfect example. So, when Trump was in office the first time, he went and

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signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which was there for the entirety of the time that Biden was in office. That was adding to the deficit under Biden, but he was not responsible for approving that legislation. So, what you have to

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do is you have to tag it, and that's why there's a committee called the Committee for Responsible Budget, which is both Republicans, independents, and Democrats come together and look at legislation by legislation, executive order by executive order, budget by budget to

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determine how much national debt is being added by each specific president. And when you do that, it's very clear the Republicans added double on both occasions.

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Royce. I just think it's absolutely ridiculous. I mean, and these these talking points are, you know, they're they're dishonest, but they're they're uninteresting to me. There are no more party lines. I I I I mean, of course I'm

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I'm on the right side of the aisle, per se, but the real scam is to pit black and white people in this country against each other so they can make off with the green.

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And that's the uniparty. And And the point that I'll make about our economy and and I I want to say this. I was thinking about it earlier.

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Even the term affordability has become a McGuffin. Do you know what a McGuffin is Stephen?

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I do not. A McGuffin is a literary device used to drive the the story forward, but it's not really a part of the plot. Like Maltese Falcon.

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The movie's not really about a falcon, okay? Affordability is this, you know, term that's thrown back and forth as a political football and strategically weaponized in certain certain terms of certain parts of certain terms to get everybody all hyped up about the economy

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when the truth is the underlying pillar of the economy is death and debt. And the modern monetary theory that informs our monetary policy and the the radical inflation or printing of money goes back to an institution that that transcends the two

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political parties and that is what the uniparty in this country has tried to preserve, the devaluation of the dollar, the inflation of money, the crushing of the working class, and there's only one political party that's even thrown the

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red flag on the whole deal. And in fact, if I go further, it's the Republicans from within the Republican Party that have done just like Isaiah has said, that have fought candidates like me who are genuine debt hawks. But there is that part of the

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Republican Party, or at least I represent that part of the Republican Party that says, "The working class has been getting crushed since the inception of the Federal Reserve in 1913." And and the and the the the devaluation the devaluing of our dollar and our

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citizenship go hand in hand, and that philosophy is a post-World War II post-industrial liberal philosophy.

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Liberal philosophy, the modern monetary theory that informs that we can print as much money as we want regardless of our you know, our domestic production or or anything else is a liberal idea that Republicans who are soft on debt and economics fall

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victim to out of political viability. You have to be electable. In order to be electable, and and Isaiah mentioned you know, the the the growth of of unemployment or unemployment is yeah, you're giving a lot of jobs to people in the government.

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Republicans fundamental philosophy is self-governance. The greatest expansion You you put your hands up, but the greatest expansion of the the of new jobs came from the government came from the government. We don't believe in the expansion It's it's

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crazy to me that Democrats like AOC and Ilhan Omar Democrats like AOC and Ilhan Omar say, "The whole system is guilty in white supremacist." But their fundamental philosophy is to keep giving more power to the federal government as it expands

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in the name of new jobs. It's so contradictory, it's laughable. Only a person with a you know, a sub-100 IQ would even go for that kind of thing.

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But we've we've taught a lot of people in this country to be radical materialists. And that's what I'll say finally, Steven A. When I say affordability is a McGuffin, we have a death and debt culture in America and

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around the world. And and our our mentality about the economy, our our mentality about what is affordable and what isn't is greatly geared towards radical materialism.

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And and so our perception of of what we need to live, what we need to be prosperous, what we need to have a great quality of life has been skewed intentionally by the internet. You don't need you know, a million dollars to live

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great. You don't need to be able to go to Mykonos in Greece and take pictures on Instagram for people you don't even really like or know.

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Right. to be able to take care of a family. And and and the Democrats have made it almost impossible to do that because they don't believe in the private ownership of business. They believe in the complete consolidation of government

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government-run business or the merger of government and corporation, which is by definition fascist. Isaiah, go ahead. Cuz I know I was going to chime in, but I I know you you look like you got a lot to say. Go ahead, my

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man. Hey, Royce. I mean, look, facts don't care about your feelings, bro. I mean, and I say that with all due respect.

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Which one are facts? Which ones are facts? under Donald Trump. You can look at unemployment is up under Donald Trump.

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And that's why exactly why I talked about private sector spending to build new manufacturing facilities, which is a number to go and look to see who is building to hire more American workers. And that number has decreased under Donald Trump.

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Who's not If you like let's look at for example, if you look at when Trump was president the first time, right? This man literally had a reduction in the amount of spending up to build these new manufacturing facilities in America, despite the fact

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that he said that was the whole purpose of his tax cuts and jobs act. You put Joe Biden in there, then he goes forward and passes the infrastructure bill, the CHIPS Act, he did so many other things to create these

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targeted incentives for private investment, which led to a three times increase in those new manufacturing facilities that people have bought. I mean, so you don't really know what you're talking about here, Royce, respectfully. And I just think that, you

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know, when you talk in these, you know, talking points that are not rooted in facts, it leads to really dangerous outcomes.

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Well, see here Well, see here's here's here's my problem as somebody as somebody Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, Royce.

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As somebody in the middle who is completely ignorant compared to the both of you, let me put that out on Front Street right now. I don't know what y'all know, okay? But I like being a conduit for discussion. I'm kind of I'm

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trying to figure out how can an accord ever be reached? Let's say hypothetically speaking, even though I don't think it's that much hypothetical considering what we're witnessing in America today, that you've got people on both sides of the aisle who feel

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directly the way both of you feel. How can an accord How can an accord ever be reached or some level of I don't know. I I don't I I I I I don't know the word for it. You're just

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wondering whether or not that could ever cut get to a point where folks can reach an understanding like, well, you know what? We agree, but we're going to have to agree to disagree as opposed to both sides saying, "Y'all facts are wrong."

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Because now you're forcing two sides to pick one side of the other because neither is willing to acknowledge there's any level of credibility what the other is saying. How do we How do we How do we How do we come to an accord in

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that regard? I'll start with you, Royce. Oh, there's no accord. We're well past the accord.

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These people just lie. Like, for example, I brought up the illegal immigrant situation. He hasn't addressed it one time since he's he's talked, you know, since he's spoken. He He refuses to address that the Joe Biden administration and the Democrats as a

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party, as as a political movement, believe in and support, condone, let in 20 to, you know, 15 million foreign invaders. He won't even address it. And that's not by accident. It's on purpose.

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This country cannot be the only country in the world without a border. Okay? We should not let unlimited amounts of people come into this country, and it does have an effect on our culture, on our communities, and the

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economy. But that's not even the real issue. The And what I said about the economy is 100% accurate. I He's talking about President Trump. I'm talking about how the system works, which is why after George Floyd died, I

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led people to the Federal Reserve cuz I wanted to educate them on how monetary actually works.

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Not to to point all of their anger and animosity at police, which are government workers, by the way, working-class people who bear a lot of the same economic burden that many of the people who protested them bear.

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But how does the money actually flow? How does it work? That's not even the real issue. The When I say there's no accord to have, these people believe in cutting off little boys' penises, mutilating children, giving them hormone blockers.

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It's a pillar of their platform. They're not shy about it. Minneapolis is now the transgender [snorts] capital. You're talking about people who are under 13, 12, 11 years old being influenced into something that is completely completely unjustifiable by any medical

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standard, any medical standard worth its salt that hasn't been captured by the same academic philosophy, but certainly by any historical standard. The two universal standards for having a country, you have a border that you control, and you do not normalize cutting off

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your son's penises or mutilating them through hormone blockers and medicine. So, there is no accord with these people. They're unmoored from reality, and they want to talk, you know, they they they talk fast, they they they bring a bunch of buzzwords and things

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like that to distract you from the the issues. The reason they don't like me is cuz I'll bring you right back to the the root issue. You let in 15 million foreign invaders, and you believe in cutting off little boys' penises. We

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should never give these people the government back under any circumstances. So, there's certainly not an accord.

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Isaiah. You know, it's just really interesting. You know, Royce not at any point wanted to address anything when it comes to the economy. And it You know, I I understand that you might not necessarily have anything when it comes to that, so it's

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not really surprising. But, ultimately, Stephen A, I do think that um to get back to the root of your question about how we can come to an accord, I think that it's just by using common sense. And I think that one of

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the things that you do very well is that you go and you kind of cut through a lot of the smoke, and you kind of stick to the facts. And I think that that's really what we need more of. And once

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again, when you have a Republican, an independent, and a Democrat coming together to say that there was no immediate threat to the United States, and Trump launches a war anyway, I would say that's a lack of common sense.

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Especially, Stephen A, because you know how difficult it is in Washington for people of all sides of the political spectrum to come together to agree on anything. I would say the same thing when it comes to this absolute waste of

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our tax dollars that's going on in our government right now, with Trump spending unlimited sums of money. People said that the tariffs, the broad-based tariffs, were completely ridiculous, but he did it anyway. The Committee for a Responsible Budget, Republican,

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independent, and a Democrat all are on this committee, and they've come together, and they've said these things.

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So, you know, I think that ultimately, we've got to be able to operate off of a set of facts. But, you know, Royce did bring up the border, so I think this is a really good time to go talk about it.

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I don't support open borders. I've never supported open borders. I'm somebody who's visited at border multiple times.

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I hope Royce that you've done the same. I've talked to multiple border patrol agents and I know that ultimately, in order for us to go and have a strong border, we've got to give border patrol the resources that they need. I fully

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support doing that. Now, I say that then you then have to determine what you're going to do for the people that are here that are undocumented. I happen to believe that if every single person that is illegal and they haven't committed a

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crime here or elsewhere and they agree to pay every single tax state, federal, and local and they agree to pay an additional tax of 7% for 7 years and they do that, that's something that will then will be able to give American

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citizenship to. It'll create billions of dollars for us right here if for the taxpayer that we can use to cut taxes for Americans and ensure that we can actually go and put trades back in schools for our young people. That is

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something that is an America First policy that's vastly better than the hundreds of billions of dollars that Trump is in line to spend to go and do this mass deportation program which ultimately hasn't yielded anything for us anyway.

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Royce, I couldn't hear what you were saying while he was talking. Go ahead. Of course he believes that.

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He believes what? Of course he believes what? Of course he believes we should we should tax these people and fine these people and let them stay in stay in our country. It's a It's a for tax revenue, right? For the

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the expansion of the IRS and the federal government further expansion of the told you that to cut taxes to cut taxes and to put trades back in schools. Are you opposed to trades in schools?

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When has When has the When has the federal government ever expanded When was the last time the federal government expanded?

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When was the last time the federal government expanded and the tax rate went to trades in schools, Royce?

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When was the last time the federal government expanded and the tax rate went down?

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When was the last time the federal government expanded and the tax rate went down?

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a lot of You're doing a lot of dream shaking like Elijah on the summit right now. I'm just asking When was the last time the federal government expanded and the tax rate went down?

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Royce, we're talking about trades in schools. time the federal government expanded I'm talking about, Stevie.

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Royce, Royce, Royce, Royce, let let him answer. Go ahead, Isaiah. No, wait. Wait, I didn't answer my question.

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Okay, well go ahead. I'm just saying but you asked the same You asked the same question like five times. That's all I'm saying. He's He's asking Well, go ahead.

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Go ahead. No, let's go back to the original point. The original point want to address it.

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The original I've already addressed the economy at a fundamental level. I just told you about what I just believe. I I just One at a time, fellas. One at a time.

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One at a time. We have a death We have a death and debt culture that we've accepted because there are benefits for everybody across the aisle. Modern monetary theory, which is a progressive political and economic philosophy is a debt trap for all working class

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citizens across the political spectrum. I'm I'm going to talk about the border right now. Of course you would say that we should tax and fine these people because it's a passive-aggressive way for the Democrats to get the goal that

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they had, which was to import unlimited un- unfettered illegal immigrants. And now true that I don't support illegal immigration.

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No, you do because you want to let them stay. I don't. I don't support illegal immigration.

Speaker A

No, he's I say I say he's saying you do because you want them to stay. You're not willing to find them and deport them.

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That's what he's saying. It's Well, because this is what I'm saying. What's happening right now is that they're spending what Spain is spending on their military to go and deport only 5% of violent convicted criminals. To me, I think that

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is a lack of common sense. What I said needs to happen is that those people that are here that are undocumented Excuse me, Royce. For those that are here that are I'm not violating the Hey, fellas. Fellas.

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Let me say this real quick. Neither one of y'all getting cut off. So, just one at a time cuz I ain't editing any of this. You trust me.

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This ain't television where you get cut off in 8 minutes. So, you ain't got to interrupt one another. It's airing, all of it. Go ahead, Isaiah. I'll come back to you, Royce.

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What I'm What I'm saying is is that we have to determine as a country what do we want to do with our tax dollars. Royce might believe in spending hundreds of billions of dollars, potentially trillions of dollars on this wasteful mass

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deportation program. I say that for those people that are here that are undocumented, this is an opportunity for them to have an earned pathway to citizenship that will create billions of dollars for us that we can use to put

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trades back in schools for our young people. We have a big problem in America where a lot of children are told that they have to go to college in order to be successful. And while that might be the case for some, and for many people

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in America, I happen to believe that we should create another pathway. I think that we have gotten away from trades back in schools for so many people across this country. And if this is an avenue to fund an America First policy,

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which is to teach our young people a trade if they do not want to go to college, I do not understand how someone like Royce can get on here and be against that. To me, I think that's an

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America last. Royce, floor is yours. Royce, floor is yours. Floor is yours. First of all, first of all, I'm not against that. I think trades are great. You do this thing where you try and conflate like three different issues into into one

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point. And then you you know, you're the the the bottom line is you're contradicting yourself. And and this is what they do. The Democrats try and bait and switch you by using Spain's military spending as a juxtaposition to our

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deportations. First of all, Spain's privilege, and it is a privilege granted to them by America, and how much they do or don't spend on their military is because NATO subsidizes Spain's military defense, which is subsidized by America.

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We defend we subsidize the entire European Union's defense to a to a you know, a substantial margin. In any any increase, which is why a lot of America Firsters wanted us out of NATO, which Democrats defend vehemently. They defend

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NATO. You want to get out of NATO? Of course. Yeah, absolutely. NATO work, Royce?

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Uh right now it works that it's breaking the American people's back a a working class of a bunch of Europeans that are giving They're giving their They're giving their continent and their countries away to the invaders the same way Democrats

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want to do it here. to me Can you point to me where I'll tell you how it works.

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States budget it has a line item for NATO and Spain's defense? Are you saying Are you saying Are you saying that the American taxpayers do not fund NATO?

Speaker A

I'm asking you. I asked you a question. y'all ask Why don't y'all ask each other's question? Why don't y'all ask each other's question?

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even starting from the same reality. If you don't If you don't If you don't accept that America subsidizes NATO, then you're not even dealing in reality.

Speaker A

How does NATO work? You don't I don't think you understand how NATO subsidize NATO?

Speaker A

What does that mean? Does America put in the lion's share of the funding for NATO?

Speaker A

You think there's a I say I say I say I say I say that is a direct question. Does America put in a lion's share of money to NATO? That That is a direct question.

Speaker A

No, because I don't think that Royce understands how NATO works. All right, well, tell us.

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NATO Well, tell us. Look, NATO NATO means that every country has their direct investment that they spend on their own military for their own defense. The 2% target for defense spending that these countries have, it's not like America is paying that. That's

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saying that you want the you want the United Kingdom, you want France, you want our NATO allies to go and spend that on their own defense. Royce, you seem to believe that there is a line item in the United States budget for

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Spain's defense or for France's defense. And if you believe that, then Royce, why don't you go and show me where in the federal budget this is instead of spouting conspiracy theories?

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I I didn't say I didn't I didn't say that. I said that we are the lion's share majority of subsidization for NATO. We We give up We give the most out of any of the other countries. They don't carry their weight. And they don't

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carry their weight to a degree where if they need to go to war with an enemy on their border such as Russia, they have to call us to help them to do it, which is exactly why we're still in a war in

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Ukraine now, because NATO couldn't fight Russia without America's help. So, we do put in the money and we we do put in the money.

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even in NATO Okay, It that It exactly right, sir. That is exactly right. is your point?

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So why is the whole entire Why is the entire European Union in America by NATO decree going to the aid of Ukraine to the detriment and debt of our own country?

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Do you know what the Budapest memorandum was? Yes, I do. What is it, Royce?

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The point is This is what you didn't answer my question. Wait, you didn't answer my question.

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Wait a second. You didn't answer my question. this is very important. If we're going to talk about Ukraine You didn't answer my question.

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just tell me? Why? What is the Budapest memorandum? You're a United States Senate candidate, Royce. Why can't you just give me this answer?

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This is what they do. When I When I debunk one of their When I debunk one of their answers, then he goes to this random this random question about Well, you don't answer this one.

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I'm talking about Ukraine. This is how you Wait. No, wait. Wait a second. Wait a second.

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What? I've answered a lot of questions, Steven Hayse. It seems like he doesn't want to answer this.

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But the the reason why you don't like me is cuz I don't let I don't let people do that. That That That's corny. What you're doing is corny. Every time I debunk one answer, you jump to another lily pad. That's what you do.

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The bottom line is Let me finish up. Let's finish up, and then I'll come back to you, Isaiah. Go ahead, Royce. Finish your point.

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Even furthermore, we we got way off on the Spain and NATO. The The bottom line is this.

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Spain's military spending should not even be brought up in conjunction with our effort to deport illegal foreign invaders.

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Even the idea is a Even the idea is an internationalist sort of globalist philosophy. I don't give a what Spain spends on their military. We're going to deport every single foreign invader that Joe Biden let into this But is that rational Is that rational,

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Royce? Can you really deport Can you really locate 15 million immigrants and deport 15 million immigrants in this country?

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You really THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN? WE BETTER. But But hold up. Hold up. Wait a second.

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We better find a way. just We just witnessed Wait. Would China do it? Hey, wait a second, Stephen A. Would China do it?

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Would China deport every foreign invader cuz these These Democrats are proto-China They're proto-communist CCP, you know, fans. They love China. They love how many roads they can build. They love how affordable it is to live in China.

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China China and Russia would do a lot of things the United States wouldn't do.

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But, go ahead. Would China Wait a second. Wait. Wait. Would China Would China Would China deport every foreign What happens when you cross the border illegally in China, Stephen A?

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I mean, come on, Stephen A. I say What happens We're We're We're We're going We're going off subject. I got you. I got you.

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Go ahead, Isaiah. No, that's not That's not off subject. No, no, no, it is. It is.

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It is because I'm only talking about our national mortal enemy. And it doesn't And it's not relevant what would happen What What the standard is What the What the What the universal standard is of how you deal with illegal foreign

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invaders from one country to another. They're our national mortal enemy. saying your point is made without me having to get into China and Russia.

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That's all I'm trying to say. But, go ahead. What I'm saying specifically is if you cross the border illegally in China, they don't take the time to pleasantly deport you back to your origin country.

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IS NOT THEM. WE'RE NOT THEM. WAIT. Wait a second. Wait a second. We are in a Wait a second. Hold on.

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Wait. No, no, we're not way off. I had a couple of other issues I had a couple of other issues I wanted to get to before I let y'all out of here. But, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

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Stephen A, there is a Wait a second. Wait a second. When Russia crossed over into Ukraine and invaded Ukraine, we used an an escalatory ladder to determine the action The military action we should take to Russia based on their

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existential threat to our country. And a lot of Democrats argued for that. They said, "We can't let Russia invade Ukraine cuz they'll roll across Europe." And some Democrats even advocated that we use short-range tactical nukes to push Russia back. Now, we get to a

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conversation about China and their deportation policies and all of a sudden it's it's not equal. It's it's not it's not equitable to to to analyze across the two countries. We're in a we're in an asymmetrical war with a national

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mortal enemy and in China they don't pleasantly deport people back to their origin countries and they certainly don't assimilate them and give them free credit cards and health care and education. They shoot them in the back of the head Stephen A is what they do in

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China. Isaiah go ahead. going to do that. We want to deport them. Isaiah go ahead.

Speaker A

Whatever you I'm I mean you I got a couple more questions before I let you get on out of here. I just didn't want to rob you of the opportunity. You're good?

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Yeah. I mean you No, no, no. Look, this is what I want to say.

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What I'm saying is I think Hakeem Olajuwon would be proud of this pivot cuz again your dream shook.

Speaker A

Let me move on. Guys guys guys. But but wait, I just want to address this Stephen A once give me one second.

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Royce let him talk. Royce let him talk man, please. Go ahead. Go ahead Royce.

Speaker A

Look, all I'm saying is this. We were talking about Ukraine and why NATO countries were defending Ukraine and he thought that was a gotcha. That's why I asked him, what is the Budapest Memorandum? He cannot tell you. That's why he's trying

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to pivot to China and all those things. It's called Gish galloping. So I just want to ask just point-blank directly Royce, what is the Budapest Memorandum?

Speaker A

Because I think that if you answer that, you will then have the answer to all of your questions. Can I just get an answer from that?

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No, it's not No, cuz what you're doing is you're trying to forward an international You're trying to forward an international I know what it is. I don't regard it as legitimate.

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me. Explain it. I don't regard it as legitimate and I don't regard a lot of these treaties. I don't regard a lot of these international treaties.

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I don't I don't I'm I'm you my answer. You don't get The thing about me is you can't make me answer it the way want me to. don't know what it is.

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I got I got I got Listen, for my viewers For my viewers I got For my viewers I got something more important than than than Ukraine and Russia or the I got I got something more important to deal with. I wanted to get

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And this is an overview. I mean Can I answer it Can I answer one last time, Stephen A?

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Go ahead. I don't regard some of these international treaties and agreements as legitimate. They are They are a relic.

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They're In many cases, they are relics of a globalist foreign policy, the same foreign policy that informs that we have to go defend a a country a world away instead of defending our own borders and and and and making sure our own people

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are prospering. So, the Buda the Budapest Memorandum is not something I'm going to go into the details about because I don't regard it as legitimate.

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Okay. Got it. Let me move on because I want to get to the criminal justice system that exist in this country cuz I think it's important in the light of the Carmelo of the Carmelo Anthony verdict.

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And I wanted to ask this question overall, not so much specifically about that verdict. You can go where you want to go with it, but I want to ask a bigger question about young men in America today and a real crisis of

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purpose that we're talking about here. If so, who or what bears the most responsibility for the state of affairs that exist in this country when it comes to young men? And don't get me started with it being specific about young black

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men. Answer that question. I'll start with you, Isaiah. I think that young men, young women, young people in general want to see um an economy that works better, and I think that there's been special interests on all sides of the political

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spectrum that has been pushing against policies to make that happen. I think that there's been a lot of corporate ownership of homes in this country uh that's stopped a lot of young men, young women from going out and buying

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homes. I think that that ultimately um is a problem, and I think that they've been lobbying all sides of Congress to make sure that that uh can happen. I I that it's a problem that many people can't go out and get

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good jobs because of the fact that so many special interests are said using the money to go and do stock buybacks instead of actually building for America. So look, I think that there's a lot of big economic social problems

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that's going on right now, but I would say the biggest fault of that is money in politics because that has paralyzed a lot of action on the big things that many people care about in this country.

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Royce is condensed as I think as you can be. Go ahead and answer that question yourself please.

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Not hard to do it, but I I will say this. This is where this is where the secular human secular humanist philosophy on the left just goes completely off the rails.

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And when I said earlier to tie it back to my answer about the economics earlier, it was a much deeper answer about our culture. When I said radical materialism, this is what I mean.

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And this is a this is a this is a hallmark of of the Marxist philosophy to reduce the human existence down to price, to make everything about price, affordability, the cost of things. While those are important things and I already said

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the three-card monte is to pit black people against white people or Republicans against Democrats or whatever, men against women to make off with the money of an ever-expanding federal government, which is true, poverty does not give people the excuse

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to do heinous and terrible immoral things. And the fact that we continue to to forward that idea across the journal house of history is a sign of our own decadent culture. You can be poor and still make sound decisions. The

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Democrats, for the most part, accept this idea that poverty is is, you know, going to be a net result of of debauchery, immorality, crime violence chaos self-destruction. Nothing could be There's nothing remotely appropriate about that. There's nothing even vaguely

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appropriate about that idea. People should be able to both be poor or or be, you know, in a position that's not their you know, their their most ideal economic situation and and be good people. And and follow the morals and

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ethics of a given community or in this case a nation. And to tell young black men specifically anything else like, well, if you're born into poverty, of course you're going to go in and rob a corner store. Of course you're going to

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be angry. So you stab a kid in the chest at a at a track meet is absolutely insane almost almost as insane as giving a pre-pubescent kid a hormone blockage almost as insane.

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Before I let y'all get on out of here, I'mma end by asking this question. Both of y'all are on opposite sides of the aisle. If the other sides world view wins over the next 10 years, what does America actually look like?

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Let's say in 2036. Isaiah. Well, I think that you'll see a deepening inequality problem in America.

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I think you'll see the richest folks in America continue to get tax breaks. You'll see things like for example in the Stop the Bacon Act, something that they're pushing that's literally allowing for big ag to allow for these

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pigs to basically be disgusting meat that's just rolling around in America. You'll see a deregulation of our food.

Speaker A

You will see ultimately I think in America that allows for like I said the richest people on earth to get richer. I think personally the way to do that, you got to get big money out of politics.

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I've really been a big proponent of that. Cuz I think that's really what's driving a lot of the political divide in this country is big special interest putting people against each other. And I think that we have to get that under

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control. But you know, frankly Um oh I uh well, I was just going to say I just think that frankly um I think we can fix these problems. But we got to put in people in office.

Speaker A

But but by putting better people in office is that what you said? Yeah. I got you. Go ahead, Royce.

Speaker A

Um [clears throat] Well, when you say Republicans or Democrats or who's in office, again, I don't regard the the conventional framework of our political parties as accurate. I I don't regard the current political landscape as Republican or Democrat, although I know

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people, you know, they find utility in that. And sure, we have two political parties, but right now in my own party, I'm going to fight against the people who want unfettered, you know, increase of debt, who want to be in wars all over

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the world at all times, who even make a you know, a sort of work around for Digna Dad Act, where we're going to assimilate all these foreign invaders.

Speaker A

And and I think if if we continue on the path that we're we're on now under that uniparty rule of the status quo that is completely beholden to special interests and lobby money. We always talk about moderates and people who can agree and

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shake hands across the the aisle. The biggest shaking of hands across the aisle has been the special interests and lobby money. But then they tell you those are the only people that are electable. I mean, it's you know, they

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they talk out of both sides of their mouth. And a lot of those people are Democrats, or at least the Democrat media. I think we have to have a radical radical change and shift even further to the right than what President Trump is

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willing to do. And I think we we we can and we should at least set the aim to deport all the illegal foreign invaders that came in under Joe Biden to start.

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And we can do that. And we should know where they all are cuz we gave them all credit cards and cell phones, or we gave a lot of them. I think there was estimated like 2 million didn't take the

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cash. You got to wonder what they're up to that they they passed on the cash.

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But at least 13 million, a conservative estimate, 13 million got cell phones and and credit cards. We know exactly where these people are. The question is, do we like the convenience of low-cost labor?

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And and and what what's going to happen if we allow if if we continue Look, it it though it just blows my mind what's happened to this country about people, especially black people's perception of citizenship, the value of

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their citizenship, and the sovereignty of their borders and their country, especially a country that we helped build, and that we currently help keep keep keep afloat. Uh the fact that we've just given away the idea of national pride, national honor, having a country,

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having sovereign borders, valuing our our dollar, and demanding that our politicians do the same is it should be a non-starter.

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I'm going to say this, and y'all can comment about it, and I can end it this way.

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I think the thing that really really bothers me as a guy respecting both of y'all, knowing what y'all know, and proud to have y'all on this show, and you're always welcome back, both of y'all, just so y'all know.

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It's that I keep telling folks out in the streets of America, "Look, dammit, you can't have everything." You can't have everything. Everybody's got to do without something. Or this notion that you get to get everything you want the way you want, how you want

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it, it's it's not realistic. And and Royce, when you say the the and you explain it, but you talk about there is no accord, it that that's that's scary, because it's like, "Wait a minute. Well, if there is no accord, then every the

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one side's got to have their way." Whichever side of the aisle it is, cuz the left has certainly acted that way, to some to some people, I say on the left have acted that way. And I'm like, "Where does that get us?" Because that

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means you're going to have millions of Americans utterly disgusted, and they ain't going to go for it, and they're going to be determined to cause chaos, because they didn't get, you know, they they felt left out of the equation, they

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ain't get what they want. How the hell does that help us moving forward? That's all I wanted to say. Anybody got a cool comment about it? Go ahead, Isaiah.

Speaker A

Yeah, let me let me let me let me let me say this. You know, Stephen A, you know, I think one of the things that hopefully I think that you and Royce and we all can agree with is that there's a lot of

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big special interest money in politics, and it does make a lot of political decisions. And I think that hopefully hopefully we all can eventually come together to say that this has to come to an end. We have to demand that

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politicians on that are Republican, Democrat, independent, no matter what you are, that it has to get out. We've got to get big packs out of politics.

Speaker A

We've got to put spending limits on elections because that is really the root, I think, of most of our political problems in America.

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Royce, I give you that. Oh, amen. Oh, amen. I completely agree. I think we should put a nationwide ban on PACs and lobbies altogether. In fact, it's a part of my political platform. So, yeah, we we agree completely on that. But, to

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your point, Stephen A, about you can't get everything you want. I I think I think it's a misrepresentation of at least what I'm saying is in your sports your sports commentator and congratulations the Knicks just won.

Speaker A

It was it was awesome to see them to see them do that. But, [laughter] But, but, but, but imagine, Stephen A, if you started the game, you jumped the ball up, and you could and the players could literally run wherever they wanted

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to on the court. I mean, back behind the benches, in the stands, and you know, it'd be like the Globetrotters. It wouldn't be the NBA, right? So, you have to have a baseline of reality. And I think we're really having a fundamental

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argument in this country in politics about reality, not so much about the details, but about reality itself. And that's not something that you can easily negotiate, compromise, or just, you know, move past. And and I go back to

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this, not not as a distraction, but I really do mean the the trans thing is a canary in the coal mine for reality.

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And if we can't agree on that baseline reality, like you can't cut a little boy's penis off and he become the other sex. If we can't agree on that, of course we're not going to be able to agree on the tax rate or how many

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illegal aliens we should deport because one side of the aisle has a philosophy of politics that has that baked into it, and the other side has something that the left regards as you know, unacceptable or non-starter, which is

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obviously God, right? I mean, they say, if you believe in God, you believe in Jesus, it's a sky daddy, you know, it's a fairy tale. We don't regard that as legitimate way to go about framing government or society. So, we're at a

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fundamental impasse, and I'm just being realistic about that. I got it. Listen, man, I know this much, If I ran for office, I I both of y'all would be in my ear. I'd listen to you cuz dammit, you got stuff to say and I

Speaker A

appreciate that. Listen, you don't have to always agree, but at least y'all can have this kind of conversation and that's the kind of thing that I'm trying to create with this platform that I have available to me. Cats being willing to

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sit across from one another and have a conversation cuz Lord knows we need more than that. So, Isaiah Martin and Royce White, thank y'all both for your time. I really, really appreciate it and know both of y'all got a home here anytime

Speaker A

you need it. I'm here for you. I appreciate y'all, man. Thank Thank you so much.

Speaker A

Thank you so much. All right, man. God bless you guys. Thank you. No doubt. That's it for this edition of Straight Shooter with yours truly, Stephen A, getting on out of here.

Speaker A

Remember, every Wednesday night, SiriusXM POTUS Radio, channel 124, that's where you'll find me. Plus, you'll find me right here on my YouTube show at least twice a week.

Speaker A

Additionally, right here on the Stephen A. Smith Show YouTube Straight Shooter uh with Stephen A YouTube channel. So, check it out. Talk to y'all next time.

Speaker A

Royce White, Isaiah Martin, driven in discussion. Two brothers and got an idea what the hell is going on in this country. Know what the hell they're talking about. And I mean it when I I say it. Everybody's welcome as long as

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you've got substantive stuff to say that you believe is in the best interest of America instead of acting like you crazy.

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That's where I'm coming from and that's where I'm going to continue to come from. Until next time, ladies and gentlemen, peace and love. Signing off, Stephen A. Peace.

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The video features Royce White, a former NBA player and GOP candidate for the U.S. Senate in Minnesota, and Isaiah Martin, a Houston-born Democrat and former congressional candidate in Texas.

What are the main political perspectives discussed?

The discussion contrasts conservative views, including Christo-nationalist and ultra-MAGA positions, with liberal Democratic perspectives, focusing on issues like leadership, economic policy, and national unity.

What key issues are debated in the video?

Key issues include the state of America, economic challenges like inflation and healthcare, immigration and border security, election integrity, and the effectiveness of political leadership under Trump and Biden.

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