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[music] [music] window fell out of a window. Yeah. Where [singing] did he go? Wind [music] fell out of a window. Now me and Pal is in control. [music] I order 66 your ass.
Jay Dyer and Tim Gordon discuss Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, a planned philosophy course, geopolitics, and political chaos, amid heavy meme-style crosstalk and joking.
Key Takeaways
- Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics is presented as essential reading for serious adults and a foundation for ethical thinking.
- Tim Gordon's philosophy classes cover Nicomachean Ethics book by book, accessible through his website.
- Dyer and Gordon argue that modern political dysfunction stems from liberal paradigms and 20th-century ideological influences.
- The stream mixes serious philosophical and geopolitical discussion with heavy comedic and meme-driven content, which affects its informational density.
What the video covers
- The first portion of the transcript is largely a repetitive music-and-meme segment with Star Wars-themed lyrics, with little substantive content.
- Jay Dyer hosts a live stream and brings on Tim Gordon, joking about calling each other on FaceTime and streaming logistics.
- Tim Gordon describes his online philosophy classes, which are working through Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, and recommends it as a key reading for adults.
- The two discuss the relationship between Catholic and Orthodox views on ethics, noting broad agreement on the core ethical framework.
- Discussion touches on nationhood, heritage, and what constitutes a nation-state beyond lineage or ancestry.
- They explore the influence of Marx, Freud, and Darwin on 20th-century political movements and the World Wars.
- Topics include espionage history, conspiracy theory versus serious geopolitical analysis, and figures such as Yuri Bezmenov.
- The conversation addresses the state of the Republican party, political authority, and the role of the state in welfare and capitalism.
- Much of the later discussion is casual, with frequent jokes, tangents, and audience-directed remarks.
- The episode ends with a request for viewers to send recommendations and a reference to a philosophical film built around dinner conversations.
Chapters
- 00:00Opening music and meme segment
- 00:21Stream intro and FaceTime banter
- 00:58Aristotle's ethics and Tim Gordon's classes
- 06:30Nationhood, heritage, and state power
- 11:20Marx, Freud, Darwin and 20th-century history
- 19:20Espionage, conspiracy, and geopolitics
- 27:40Political landscape and the Republican party
- 31:40Capitalism, welfare, and closing remarks
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Dude's still trying to call me on FaceTime. Bro, what are you doing? Tim trying to call me. Dude, stop calling on FaceTime. What are you doing?
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We're trying to make you famous. Do internet interviews. Make you an internet celebrity. Tim, what are you doing? Calling me on FaceTime.
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See, this is the thing with these Roman Catholics dog. He just had to ask Leo what to do. Leo had to tell him whether he could clock in on the internet.
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No. Streamlabs. What the [ __ ] is he talking about? Dude thinks I'm trying to send him FaceTime links.
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He's got the scoop. Yo, what's up, Tim? Calling you from the banana phone. Calling you from a million years ago, dog. [laughter] What you doing, dog? That's how this phone rings. Goes, you pick it up and it's Tim Gordon and
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the Pope calling in on three-way. [laughter] Yo, here he is. What's up, dog? Hey, dude. Hey, what's up, dog?
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What's up? How's the banana? [ __ ] I was calling you on the banana phone. It goes when it rings. [laughter] Yo yo yo.
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Okay, let's see. Hold on. I think we have you on on the screen here. Let me block out uh Tucker's face here. Let me get Tucker off of the screen.
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Um, yeah. What's up? Now we got you on the screen. What's I'mma let you go on the banana phone. Hold up. Let me call I'm gonna call you by Hey. Hey. Hey, girl. I'll call you by later.
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[laughter] What's up, man? How you doing? I'm good. How How the hell are you? You caught you in a goofy mood today.
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That's every day, dude. What you Where you been at, [laughter] [ __ ] Where you been at?
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We've been uh been living life, living our best life over here. And And I I understand you have been as well. You were on a generational run for a while there.
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For a while. What? [laughter] Why you trying to Why are you trying to nag me, dude? Why are you trying to nag me? You just got here trying to nag me.
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Oh, you were on a generational war run a generation ago. What happened with that?
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[laughter] Oh, we're we're we're very good here in southern Mississippi. Are you in Nashville right now?
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Oh, this is this is Florida, dude. Can you not tell the nity? Does that look like Does that look like Nashville, dude? We're in Florida right now.
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Does not [laughter] Um anyway, dude, I'm glad you're uh you're back. I'm glad to have you on. You know, I think uh what maybe a year ago we or maybe two years, we did a pretty in-depth discussion on metaphysics and
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Aristotle and overlaps things that we agree on and disagree with. um ma mainly where we disagree but uh I understand that um you've kind of become hip to the idea something that I support and also uh have a version of which is kind of a
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a philosophy course and I know that you're um going to talk about that today but um so basically what what overall is this project what is your plan is it complete when's it out what tell us what you have in mind
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yeah thanks a million actually here I don't think there's any disagreement between a Catholic and an Orthodox on the ethics. The most important secular book in all the world is Aristotle's nicome ethics. And I've long told my audience
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it's literally the one book from the Western cannon of philosophy that every adult human of IQ over 90 ought to read and understand. And it's not really hard, but it's better to have guidance going through. And I've taught it
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before. If you go to timothyjgordon.com, click classes. We're starting books one and two out of the 10, they're really chapters, the 10 chapters of the Nikcomian ethics. We're doing one and two next week and we're going to be done
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by Thanksgiving. So, if you don't know the Nikomeian ethics, it's the one book, Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, um any kind of self-respecting adult, even if you're not a Christian, it's the one book of Western philosophy. Even if you're not interested in philosophy, you
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should read because it's about human flourishing and no one can really disagree. You said this is the book called [ __ ] Wakan Ethics. Is that like niggerian ethics?
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Is that Wakanda ethics? I'm confused. [ __ ] [ __ ] Wakanda ethics. It's all about uh getting them green backs getting therilla. [laughter] Um now this is cool. So this is not metaphysics. This is something more accessible. you're going to do nicome
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ethics and is this a like an eight lecture 12 lecture course? What's the what's the whole layout?
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No, it's so it's a it's a four lecture course actually. We're we're normally I do it as a 10 lecture course. I've done this in the past. It's on Wednesday nights and I just said, "Hey, between thank uh Halloween and Thanksgiving
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because this is a great way to think about something. What if you learned the most important book, not the deepest but the most important for everyday uh udania happiness for every single human being uh between Halloween and Thanksgiving. So I'm doing two to really
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it will average two and a half of the 10 books of the ethics every week and people are you know I invite them to read it but so for next week if people want to jump in timothy jgordon.com go
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to classes Aristotle's niconian ethics you can have it basically mastered by Thanksgiving. So so enough time to get in there and uh priest up and destroy your uncle at Thanksgiving dinner. put his ass to shame.
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That's right. If he's a Conteian, if he's into uh Conteian Deontology or he's a Millsian, he believes in consequential. No, really, it's like if you're if your grand you talking about you talking about Quan Mills?
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Yeah. Quan Mills. Okay. Yeah. You know, you know who Quan Mills is? Quan Quan Mills.
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Yeah. Now, you said Mills or something. You talking about Quan Mills? It's got to be. I'm talking about the Mills fatherson tag team uh WWE. Yeah, that that's James, you know, John Stewart.
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Well, you don't like my jokes. You don't get it. But the whole audience knows who Quan [laughter] Mills is. So, she's trying to ruin sabotage as usual with Tim Gordon. No, I'm joking. Um, yeah.
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So, you're talking about I know Quan's uh [ __ ] McKan ethics. So, you're talking about John Stewart Mills, not Quan Mills. Go ahead.
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Yeah, John Stewart, James Mills, you know, they're the kinds of guys that say uh the end does justify the means. And a lot of American, not just boomers, but um greatest gen. You get into the topic of World War II and the the new
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political consensus after that, they'll all hit you with this at the Thanksgiving dinner table. Hey, the end justified the means. We we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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Why uh Nigasaki and Hiroshima? Why? How could that be bad? Who that is? We saved a million.
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Who that [ __ ] is? [laughter] Hiroshima. Who that [ __ ] That's Aisha.
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Who that [ __ ] I'm [ __ ] right. I'm in a crazy ass mood. Go ahead.
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No. [ __ ] Uh, yeah. So, you're like, "No, here's why the end doesn't justify the means.
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You can never do wrong so that good may come of it." Um, and and you got to learn the nic the nicomeckian ethics to have this conversation. Why why virtue ethics are the thing for really any kind of Christian or conservative.
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Absolutely agree. Yeah. I remember uh reading and enjoying Alistair McInder quite a Alistair McIntyre quite a bit when I was in grad school um because I had some really cool classes on um the classics uh not just Greek writers or
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Greek classics but also um kind of the classics of like the Virgil and that kind of stuff and it over overlapped with the idea of virtue ethics and we were at the Sophia conference with FDA a couple years ago and there's great
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professor named Dr. Sean Stid and he did a a paper on how St. Ambrose did a brilliant sort of baptizing of the virtue ethics that you find uh in the Greeks and particularly in Aristotle. I think Aristotle is a little more
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u a little more useful obviously in terms of ethics than Plato or that kind of stuff. So um absolutely. So, not that I I you know, I don't hate Plato or anything like that, but I think that Aristotle is a lot more um useful as we
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might. I hate Plato. I just don't like the undue parody between Plato and Aristotle for for any kind of Christian. I mean Plato you could say is a little bit important for [clears throat] metaphysics but whether we're talking
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metaphysics, physics, the posterior analytics, ethics, politics, you know, you know how evil Plato's politics are, particularly book book five of the republic. Arisilianism is um uh basically a spanning rejection of Plleonism just correcting error after error in it. Well, what do you uh just
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to not to divert too much, but um what's something that you would say is say part of Aristotle's, you know, view of the polus or Aristotle's ethics that might be applicable to say the attitudes that we have in terms of the midterms and
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like what we're doing politically with our ridiculous system. What's a couple applications that might apply to recent midterm news?
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Well, what's evergreen is the Arisatilian apherism that the the child belongs to the father, not to the state. Plato, this is a correction in uh book three of Aristotle's politics that [music] Plato thought the child belongs to the state
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and it's really clear that the child belongs to the state. That kind of frightening collectivism comes.
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So, you're saying that it doesn't take a village to raise a child. I'm suggesting that that Hillary might have been wrong there. Yeah. and and Aristotle says as much. So there's a lot but um you know that that's a good
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starting point is just the the child really does belong to his father. You know in book five of the republic for instance Plato is saying that you should take the the children of the natural aristo uh away from them. They should live in a
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big commune where they start having sex really young and it doesn't matter whether you're you're gene mixing or not because [laughter] like epstinian ethics.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nic [ __ ] abstinian ethics right there. [laughter] No, that's that's platonic ethics and and platon. And remember um this is really important. The most famous the most useful accessible book treatise that Aristotle ever wrote is the ethics
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because it simply works. And everyone who reads all 10 books of the ethics is like that is so right. I already knew that. Now I can explain why. You'll never read another book in philosophy that that's the case for. But he only
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wrote the ethics as what he called an introductory work for the politics. And no one really I like the politics. I believe a second important concept from the politics that we need to get back to I call it political geography is the
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concept of amity or concord described in the second book of the politics which just means no state should really be bigger than 100,000 citizens because it's all kind of fake and gay. You believe in diversity if you believe in a
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polus of even 100,000 people. Aristotle's like, "Where are you going to get a bunch of people that really act like you, walk like you, talk like you, believe like you?" No one believes that.
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And so I say this to all the national conservatives. Wigsantium. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. That that could be a little We all want wigger and wigs. That's the thing you don't understand.
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Yeah. We all wear Jordan fours, walk around Wigantium. um you know talking about the glory days the early '9s in the NBA and [ __ ] but um yeah it's it's a big pressing issue that that I think is going to
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become a lot more relevant in the next decade is this idea of amity concord we all kind of know this intuitively this arisatilian idea from the politics that if if you want to keep your little nerdy comic book club super pure you got to
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keep it small you keep it small to keep it pure and keep it pure to keep small that is just the idea of amity and concord. You can't have likeness among the the you know Republican politics and Republican citizens without keeping it
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small, keeping their their number limited. Yeah. What what would you say though to the history of in regard to that? I mean it seems like that would make sense in terms of like concentric little little polices.
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Um but what about imperial theory? The idea of say a Bzantium or a Holy Roman Empire or uh you know these older ideas of of empire. How would that fit with an Arisatilian analysis?
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It's an important question and and um the one time that that um NJF has been on my channel, we we were agreeing about everything because we you know he's another Catholic. We agree about most stuff. But then at the end of
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our talk, we were like, well, this is going to have to be a dub to be continued because I'm when it comes to political geography, a Jeffersonian strict arisatilian with this set of ideas. And he's famously a Hamiltonian.
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He likes the the idea of empire and vast stretches of, you know, a continent- sized republic, which is really a contradiction in terms. And I was like, you're going to have to come back on and we're going to have to do um a friendly
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debate on on that thing, a friendly talk on it. But um yeah, and the first question that everyone uses as a test case is HRE, like how did the Holy Roman Empire work? And what it turns out is
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that when you know anything about the Holy Roman Empire, the police power of the states was really small. The Holy Roman Empire or Rome version 1.0 didn't run people's lives. It was really, you know, little Palestine kind of ran
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itself. All Rome did was tax, tax and spend. And um so it was much more like I'm fine.
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Which which hold on which Rome are you talking about when you say Holy Roman Empire? You talking about the like Franco Latin papal church? Are you talking about the Austrohungarian HR Holy Roman Empire? Are you talking about Rome like historic Rome transitioning
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into Eastern Rome? Yeah, I'm saying Rome 1.0 I know is Rome which you know crumbled in the days of the Petristics but also you know the the Holy Roman Empire under like the Carolinians and stuff you know that's
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so the western Roman Empire because there was already an existing Roman Empire which is for us Bzantium is the Romeo that's the Roman Empire but but what I'm saying applies to them too.
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No absolutely I really like I really like the way it applies in the east. I think it's um almost a more ready-made point because the point I'm making about subsidiarity and amity concord is that Rome didn't mess with anybody like Rome the city or
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or const you know certainly right after Constantine the the capital did move to Constantinople it didn't tell people how to live their lives it was it was a tax and spend power from Rome or Constantinople it and that's it everyone else had their
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you know the palace Palestinians were the Palestinian, you know, the people. Well, they had a very strict gold standard for a long time. And then when it began to crumble, they were practicing the money clipping that all the money clippers do.
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Yeah, they were doing the money clipping, Tim. I don't know if you understand money clipping, but this happens towards the end of that. Uh, so they have a bad monetary policy, which is actually because what does what's Aerosol's view
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of usery? Uh, and I I want you to finish your, you know, Concord subsidiary points if you want to. I'm not trying to cut you off. It just made me think of that.
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Uh yeah, she shaving the the big the big topic of the day. Um actually in book five of the Nicomckian ethics on which is considered the birthplace of the natural law. Um it's it's a little bit of a stretch, but I think it's it's a
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plausible read. Book five on justice, you have uh a really excellent um application which is demonstrative of how systematic a thinker Aristotle was.
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Everything's about the golden mean, right? you're you're mediating. Virtue is famously a golden mean between two vices. There's a vice to the left and a vice to the right, the vice of deficiency in the vice of excess. And
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this is stuff we teach our small kids uh when they're young. [snorts] But it even applies to money. So money even mediates between uh the payor and the payee. So even money acts like a golden mean. And Aristotle gives a really natural account
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for what what we would call a gold standard like hard money. It's it's um pretty fascinating actually. I don't I don't know if in it would be in the politics if he talks about usery. I'll have to look that up real quick. But he
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gives a really natural account for not only what enterprise properly conceived but also a gold standard of hard money in uh the latter half of the book five of the ethics.
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Yeah. I mean that that makes sense too. I mean they cuz they understood uh you know monetary debasement and inflation in the ancient world. I think a lot of people don't think that. They don't think that they did but they did.
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So you know the harder the money the better it is for the people. But hard money is not good actually for uh the banking power and for the state. So that's what they tend to they tend to favor
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uh you know the fiat forms of money. But that's great to hear that um that and I think all of these I'm just trying to make the the ethics that you're that you're touting here re relevant for today because people hear
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this kind of stuff and they think what what does aerosol have to do with today like why do I need to learn aerosol one first of all you need to understand and know the western cannon of literature to
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be an educated person so you should be familiar with it most people are not familiar with it u I don't think they even taught this when I was in philosophy class unless you took philosophy class, right? Like so people
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people study humanities. I mean maybe they heard about Nicomakian ethics or virtue ethics but this is very important because this is you know Christian ethics. Christian ethics is a virt virtue ethics. So um I'm glad that you're doing this. I think it's very
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relevant. But uh um so tell us more about what you're saying with Concord and subsidiarity because I think this is a very basic principle and it was a big controversy when uh my sexy necklace fell off here. I'm I hope you're not
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distracted with my sexy necklace and the puka the puka shells. Um well I I'm distracted when you're wearing it.
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I know you're I know I know that's what I'm saying. So um it's off it's easier cuz it's so sexy now.
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So tell us first of all because remember when Vance said something about this basic principle of subsidiarity and all everybody freaked out like this was some weird idea like oh I'm supposed to have concern for the people closest to me and
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then the ring out of that and then the ring out of that like that's how like sensible actual you know love and concern works and then leftists and weirdos actually think that like no you're supposed to love the entire world
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equally which is literally impossible right yeah dsvki said uh socialism is best defined as a love of mankind in general and a hatred of mankind in particular. And it it stands to reason it is perfect. Um, Christianity is the
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exact opposite. I'm actually doing a a stream later today. Uh, I was going to give you a favorable shout favorable shout out. Also, guys like Andrew Wilson or Joe Enders just um I'm doing a show on nice guys, nice Christian guys, and
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how they're no use to anybody. They're trying to be friends with everyone and they're kind of part of this extension of, you know, the the broad they're this.
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Yeah. This, but they're not gay. They're like this, but not but not um they're like this when it comes to that charitable.
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Or are they? Or or are they? That's that's part two. No, but I mean I I was going to give a favorable shout literally just about how um everyone kind of knows you can't be a friend to all is a friend to none.
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That's Aristotle comes right out of book eight of the Nicomckian ethics. Book eight and nine are beautiful uh um teachings on friendship. Oh and by the way before I go away from it politics book one Aristotle condemns explicitly I
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don't know the politics as well uh usery he hates it. He says the most hated sort of uh money changing the greatest reason. I thought I remember that because I had a class a grad class on Aristotle's polus and I thought I
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thought that I remember I mean it's a long time ago but I thought he did condemn that.
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Yeah. For money was intended to be used in exchange and that comes right out of book five of the ethics but not to increase at interest. It's it's like commoditizing a commodity. It doesn't doesn't really work. But um I would just
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say before before answering the question about subsidiarity and the big question is is subsidiarity to be paired with amity or concord or is subsidiarity to be paired with something new a theologianism called um solidarity and that's that's u another problem I deal
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with with the sort of um modern modern popes but but before explaining that I would just say that as a as a headnote to everything and to to taking my class.
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Aristotle is the most shocking thinker you'll ever read in so far, you know, not only did Dante say he's just the master of those who know, for St.
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Thomas, he's the philosopher, but for for the, you know, the Muslims, Jewish arisatilians, everyone is just looking at Aristotle. Um, it's like reading someone that that diagnosed everything about today's politics, today's cultural problems, today's family problems with feminism, and he he's literally got it
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all dialed up in treatis form, which is very early for its time. It's not like reading an ancient. You read Plato's dialogues, and that's kind of what you think reading ancient literature will be. It just feels very ancient. But
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Aristotle wrote treatises and his writing is perfect and succinct and it's it's all so applicable. It's you could apply it against feminism, against user, you could apply it against um Zionism or against any form of collectivism. So when it comes to someone like JD Vance
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who's hopping on, you know, the the Catholic train of the last few years, subsidiarity [snorts] is the idea that to keep the government should be done locally. Basically, you you know, if you're going to go out for dinner with the wife and you have kids,
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you can't just phone in and check on them. You have to have a babysitter there. You know, the ref in the position to make the call is the one that makes the call. So it's kind of just a natural
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law principle that government has to be done locally. And the extension of this is amity or concord. Um if we're supposed to like the people that we are in a rest public with then you have to you know you have to be alike with them.
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And so this idea of opposites attracting Aristotle attacks in both the politics. You're saying Aristotle is anti-Paula Abdul. So we've been fed this lie that opposes attract that like so you're but you're pitting Paula Abdul against Arisol.
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Yes. He he hated all the Did you know Paula Abdul is actually an Arab Jewish?
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Really? I knew she was Arab. I didn't know she was a Jewish. Yes, she is an Arab Jewish.
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Um just a stickle or or all the way? Um pretty sure she's fully Jewish.
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Wow. Yeah. I knew Abdul. You think um Arab. That's interesting. Well, I mean you So, you think Jay Dyer, you think white guy. I'm bipac as they come dog.
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So, um we do have a couple super chats. I don't want to cut you off. I'm enjoying uh what you're saying here. Um and I was eating the banana to insult you for that terrible comment that my generational run is over. So, you're
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I didn't say it was over. No, I said you've been on one present. Well, that suggests past tense. Um, Wigantium is rising. I don't know if you've noticed, but we are rising. We're getting We're putting wiggers in government at every level, we are going
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to take over. Um, anyway, we got some super chats. I'm just messing with it.
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Um, Von Dier says, "For $10, and by the way, I want you to keep going because this is good." And I'm going to have your links to your uh to your course below.
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Cool. How much of a serious player in geopolitics do you think India is? They have oneif of the population.
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[clears throat] They have influence in politics kind of like the way countries like Russia, China, or Israel do. Shout out to Tim Gordon. I will be getting him his HRE shirt. Holy Roman Empire shirt. Okay.
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Um, yeah. I mean, I would I think that that's a good comparison. I mean, they probably function kind of like a China would, but probably not as powerful as China. But ma may the main resource is their their population which they can
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leverage as a form of demographic warfare. So um and I think they have no qualms about using their people as a form of demographic warfare. Uh I don't think they run things. They are they've been very pro pro-Zionist for a while.
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So [clears throat] in that way you know Israel said stuff like BB said stuff like oh well if we lose America we'll just rely on uh India because India is on our side. So, I would say comparable in that way. Tuka Troopa $100. Thank
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you, big fat super chat. He says, "This is my favorite collab." Unironically. So, a lot of people in this audience love when you come over here. They like seeing me and you doing a collab. We've already got a nice 1500 over here in the
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that with the Streamlabs link right there. Now, we're talking about Aristotle, Nickian ethics. We're talking about even his uh politics, his his view of the polus. Um, you were talking about subsidiarity. By the way, I wasn't like trying to be some JD Vance cheerleader.
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I don't really follow JD Vance or any of that stuff too too closely. I know that he has said Catholic things. You mentioned that he hopped on the Cali train. Um, is and I'm not I actually don't know like did he not have a
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history of that is like a recent sort of is that something you think he was just sort of the skin suit he was wearing or is he is he actually a lifelong Catholic? I don't even know.
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No, three years ago I think he turned and he started hanging out with like Dr.
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Scott Han and I think he saw that where the winds were blowing. He was he's he was a you know evangelical guy I think with the interesting.
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Yeah. So he knew that that you know apostolic Christianity is coming back in America. Um you know both both orthodoxy and Catholicism and was probably one of these guys that was sort of um deciding between them knew Yeah. He just saw that trend, right?
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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And and he's No, he was a never Trumper. Remember? No. So I'm not I'm not a Vance guy. I'm sort of a never Vance guy actually. I'm with Fuentes on that one. But yeah, so the I mean just
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think about it. This is this is the question I've been dying, like I said before, to to to talk to Fuentes about.
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This is a question I talked to my truly Catholic buddy Michael Nolles about. Um, we get into get into it deeper. It's like, okay, man, here's why I'll support Christian nationalism, but I support a form of Christian nationalism like
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originally existed in the 1788 Constitution or the 1791 Bill of Rights. Because what a lot of people don't know, I don't know if you know this Jay, uh the original first amendment meant that Congress was not allowed to disestablish
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the nine out of 13 state establishments of religion. And everyone kind of expected that 12 or 13 of the 13 states would have their own establishment uh of religion. So if for until now I've heard this I you would know way
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more about this than me because this is you know you know a lot about this area.
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I don't know a whole lot about it, but I remember when I was at even my reform circles, I had a reformed pastor that was very into Christian nationalism, reconstructionism, and he would make these kinds of arguments. In fact, he
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wrote a book about the Hebrew republic. So, he was arguing back then that that he thought that the Old Testament was a republic. Um, I'm not sure I believe that, but anyway, uh, he was then applying that to sort of what the
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founders had in mind. And the idea was the decentralized model that that they had meant that the states could in fact be kind of mini little Christian nation states. Well, they actually were. Okay.
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It's not it's not disputable that that's what the fir the proposition the first amendment stood for is Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. So it meant it can't disestablish the state establishments and we were they were congregationalist
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you know covenant Protestant in the north and they were like Anglicans in the south and everyone expected all like 12 of the 13 to have their own. It was a state police measure. It was a state a police power
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of the state decision and it was that way until 1947 until um a bunch of Freemasons on the Supreme Court uh said that the first amendment that meant the dead opposite. That's the empowered right around the time of the
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establishment of the nation state of Israel too with the UN. Interesting interesting timing. [laughter] I'm being a little skitso there but yeah 47 or 48 a lot of crazy stuff like that happened right around Balffor. So um yeah absolutely but
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so this well that's right after World War II so there's a lot of you know World War II had a lot of mileage behind it in terms of like moral sort of uh blackmailing of everybody right oh any anything that was
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associated even loosely with German Japanese you know fascism monarch even monarchism oh that's all still fascist right so right anyway go ahead yeah yeah yeah first reich the first reich you know, is the Holy Roman Emperor Empire and
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well again like he said he wanted Yeah. He there was first Rome uh and then second Rome was Bzantium which failed and he wanted the the new the Reich is the third Rome.
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Yeah. Yeah. So um it's it's really important to understand that what I'm selling what I call myself a Christian nationalist but of the federalist states right sort.
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All I want is for for states to go back to being really really really really really powerful like they were um maybe even more so under the Articles of Confederation. But even after the Constitution, states were allowed to be an established
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Christianity and they had all all sorts of powers and they were much closer to the mark. There are still more than 100,000 citizens populating each of the United States, but they were closer to the mark. When you consider what
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Aristotle says, 100,000 citizens is too much because then you're not going to be like your neighbors. Um, you're not going to be like the fellow citizens and it's not a true republic. It just means we fail in a in such devastatingly large
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scale how how badly we fail that it's like most states wouldn't pass the subsidiarity test by Aristotle's test.
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Um let alone all 50 state the the big queer Leviathan continentsiz third of a billion people monster that is the United States. This this is really where I challenge national conservatives and this is where Aristotle challenges national conservatives. It's just like
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dude we all laugh at diversity. It's not a strength you know like we like we tell everyone and everyone mocks it. Um you know my buddy Fuentes and my buddy Nolles are both guys that that mock it but both believe in the kind of imperial
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version of America. I'm like, look, if you're larger than how many how many dudes would I want to live in an actual republic with where we actually look at the world the same way? I don't know, maybe 500, a thousand. And this is
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Aristotle's point. You don't you believe in diversity if you believe in a continent-sized republic. Why is globalism bad? Because it's all What about u I think Sheamus Coglin made this point really starkly on a stream we did.
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So if there's two hemispheres and there's two world governments, is that better? You know, just cuz you divided it in half. No. The point is you're you're violating subsidiarity and you're violating amity and concord. If your political your governing political sovereignty and
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boundaries is any bigger than what's natural, you know, where you're like, well, like attracts like. So, it doesn't have to be a globesized government to be evil. It could be four governments. We have basically a a hemispheresized republic in scare quotes. And that's
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that's just as wrong as global government according to Aristotle. And is that because it violates that principle of what's natural in the sense of the limits of locality? Like is that is so you're saying that?
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, [clears throat] it's called virtual representation. So, if you read Federalist number 10, you know, the famous Federalist papers that that everyone gets brainwashed with in like 8th grade or 9th grade, they'll have you
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read Federalist 10, probably Federalist 39, maybe Federalist 78, the only one by Hamilton that most people have read.
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They're all they're they're basically arguing against arisatilianism specifically out of the mouth of Montescu who is a very strict arisatilian and Montescu was saying a few things. Checks without balances meaning you should not have overlapping powers between the three
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branches. And the the big federalists hated that. Madison hated that. He wanted to give legislative powers to the executive and the judiciary. he wanted to give judicial powers to the executive and the legislature. Um and Montescu said no. And that was a very Montescu
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was following Aristotle on on the three powers. Each branch should do only its kind of thing. But also um Montescu is like republics have to be small. If you want small government or limited government, you have to have limited
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land mass. That's the basic first rule of what I call political geography. And it's Montescu saying it. And in Federalist number 10, probably the most famous Federalist paper of all, Madison makes this argument that you'll hear people brainlessly
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repeat, but it doesn't make any sense. It's an argument against why that's not true. That small republics per door and last a thousand years, that the Swiss canton lasted about 900 years. Venice as a little republic lasted, 1100 years.
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The English Republic lasted about a thousand years before it became um an empire and died. Empires are the boneyards of civilization. You I know that. But also, well, I think there's different things going on. Like from our perspective, the reason
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Bzantium was so successful ultimately because it's, you know, the longest lasting empire is because of uh the the the faith. You have a common faith that's maintained.
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[snorts] That's kind of the backbone that's deifying or raising, you know, the the natural order that's there. But then if the faith falls apart, then it's going to be sub subjected to all the same sort of end of life cycles that empires run
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into. This is something that Spangler talks about where you have this sort of [clears throat] death this after the flourishing you have this sort of decline and then the death of the life of an organism almost. And then he talks
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about the same patterns that you see of like the foreign groups come in uh the the money's debased the the culturebearing elites become degenerate.
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All the same patterns that we see and then that new group takes over. Um and he he even wrote Spangler wrote a book about how the white man's technology would be taken over by the brown man and used against him. Isn't that crazy? That
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was super prophetic. But um that is I've heard that before. Yeah. So what I'm saying is that the where I'm going with all this is I think one of the key issues with like America is it's such a weird propositional
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classical liberal idea of what a quote nation is that it's not really a nation.
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I've been doing this uh podcast series with the guy he's like the biggest Russian philosophy guy politics guy in Russia. His name's Pav Shayen and we've filmed 11 episodes of a podcast and we've been going through this whole
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vantage point of Russian geopolitics versus uh American history and geopolitics and he's making an argument that's interesting that you that America doesn't have its national identity because not only because it's sort of an enlightenment project, but it also
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doesn't doesn't explicitly clearly have a an apostolic lurggical jurisdictional sort of setting. And he argues that that's very important for the biblical idea of a Christian nation or an ethnos. For example, the Armenians, right? The Armenians, they're the first Christian nation
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state, right? And their grouping is both uh ethnological, but also lurggical, also uh theology, ideology at the same time. um they're actually beginning to lose their whole nation state idea because the EU is making massive moves against Armenia. So uh he's just using
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as an example, but it's comparable to America as number one a weird uh nation state that then morphs into this bizarre uh empire. But there's no cohesive idea uh or beyond idea heritage people group that actually is or unifies what America
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is. I mean you could say well it's these you know founding heritage Americans, Western Europeans or whatever. I understand that. But I mean you need more than just a heritage or a lineage to have what a quote nation state is
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prior to the Enlightenment. It's not just a collection of people who agreed to an idea. So, long long story short is I think you're right that empire has a problem. There's a great book on this by uh Eric Wahlberg. He's
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he wrote a book called Postmodern Imperialism. It's a really really good book. We did an analysis of I think five or six years ago, but he he argues that empires get really big and then they sort of like
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burn themselves out because they require such heavy uh For example, we're doing the history of Byzantine intelligence right now in my book, my book club, and the empires of history have had vast intelligence networks. They're necessary to run the
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empire. So, these are factors that are problems for empire that America has like times 20, but we don't even have like the unifying faith of a Byzantine Empire. So, it's really bizarre and I don't know what the answer is for
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this country. I think maybe we're in some kind of accelerationism that can't be stopped. I I apologize I'm rambling, but you chime in.
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Oh, I agree with all this. I agree with I mean I think I I think I'm guessing we also agree that it's you need a unifying faith, meaning more than just Protestant book clubism. You need like a liturggical unifying idea, but you also
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need kinship groups. You need an ethnos, all those things. and and but but when when the country is from sea to shining sea, you know, 3,000 mi 3,100 miles from coast to coast, you're not going to populate that with a third of a billion
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people that are of the same kinship group or maybe a couple core kinship groups I think would be fine and everyone of the same faith tradition liturgically speaking. It's just not possible. That's why Aristotle believes that so much comes down to just what the
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Germans will call daine being there. So it's actually um Aristotle doesn't use the term subsidiarity. Uh Pope Pius the 11th is the one that coined the term but he uses the the pairing of amity and concord to describe subsidiarity
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because it's just a natural law principle. It's like for Aristotle government happening [clears throat and cough] by a different like kinship group from far away Washington DC telling Honolulu Hawaii that they can't consume their own wheat in World War II. You a famous case
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called Wickard Bilburn you can't consume your own wheat. You have to sell it is it violates the natural law. It just violates the rule of nature. Same thing as if there's three refs in a basketball game and there's a close a player nearly
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stepped out of bounds. The guy that needs to make the call is the ref that's the line judge that's right there. If some ref overturned the line judge from across the court, it's like you literally as a as a rule of nature. You
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can't even see that. Vision doesn't even exist that way in nature. And that's what's so amazing about Aristotle. He's so systematic as a philosopher when you're doing his very very hard stuff like the metaphysics or even the danimus
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quite challenging to do properly or you're doing his easier stuff like the ethics and the politics which are supposed to be a couplet. Um it's all systematic. It's all you know foosus first nature first. And what's it turns
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out, you know, secular humanists will say [ __ ] like, "Oh, Christians are so weird. You guys just don't abide by your natural principles." Aristotle takes that and turns it on its head and says, "No, no, no. What's natural for a man, a
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man is a rational animal, is actually to bound that function." and and and yeah, it's actually very natural for a buffalo to lay pipe and go around and inseminate every woman buffalo around, female buffalo around. It's not that you're
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speaking coded in coded language about me right? Well, intervene on behalf of a friend.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. You're inseminating You're inseminating buffalo females. Um Oh. Oh. Oh, damn. I thought I was getting uh finally getting out of the neg zone and then I'm back in the neg zone. Damn, dude. I'm in the full disc
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zone. I'm in the beastiality zone, bro. Whoa, dude. Okay. Um, so no, I'm just talking to someone like the um you do a you have some hilarious, really insightful spots in our uh Candace Owens distributed movie, What a
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Woman Is. I laugh every time me and Stephanie, you put me in there because I'm I'm the E diva. Like, I am the archetype of what a damn diva is.
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You're the you're the you're the chick magnet. No, you're making fun of red pill guys and and um I for I forget what you say. You used like a you know, you know, be rare, be raw, and be I forget
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what the third Oh, that was that Wes uh that that giant screaming baby guy that was the prison the giant prison screaming baby man. Wes Wat Wes Watson, that was his name.
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Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Rare, raw, and Oh, ripped, rare, and ripped, rare, and raw. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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You do. You know, it's funny. We we laugh every time we've seen it and it's like, no, that's that's there's nothing there's nothing wrong with that. But it's it's actually it what's immoral for a human being is not immoral for a lion.
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If a lion if you fall in a cage at the zoo and the lion eats you, that's not immoral. That's not vicious. It's not a vice. But for a human being who's a rational animal, we're talking about what's good for you or what's natural
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for you is to have families. Monogamy is actually good for humans. You can sociologically demonstrate that Aristotle's right because if human beings just lay pipe and don't have families and men have uh kids with a bunch of different women, poverty goes
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up, depression goes up, suicide goes up, uh crime rate goes up. Well, I mean, we have like Islamic countries don't don't do the best.
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Yeah. Just like Sudan or like uh Englewood, African countries. Yeah. So, Aristotle just he's he's he's the the philosopher for a reason. He's the master of those who know for a reason because it just it sounds like someone
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that's writing um today about our problems from 2,300 years ago. He's just more elegant and it's formulated more like an apherism, but um no one has ever studied the Nicomckian ethics and not gotten a lot out of it. How to be a
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better friend, books eight and nine. How to quickly develop good habits books one and two what true happiness is versus uh pleasure book three u books four and five the moral virtues book six prudence the one intellectual virtue there are
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five intellectual virtues but only one matters for what kind of person you are whether you'll get into heaven so it is just it's there's nothing comparable in terms of value and you know I'm offering this class because I thought hey
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sometime before the end of the year before Thanksgiving you can master the most important secular book, not the Bible or not not commentaries on the Bible, but outside of that, it's the most important secular book you could ever read. And if you can do it in a
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month with me, with a guy who spent his academic career studying, I might I might actually take that course because I it's been I was probably it was probably 2006 when I was in undergrad and I had Nick Monkey and
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ethics. So, I might I might like to brush up on that because I remember those few years ago on YouTube there was all these ads for uh Hillsdale College was doing a whole course on Nick Monkey and ethics. Come on, you guys.
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Obviously Tim would be a better person to take that course from [clears throat] than some goober from even if they're like sort of right-wingish. I don't know whatever they are, but Strowian.
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Yeah, I'd rather have it. I don't even know what but yeah, it'd be be cooler to have it with Tim. Um just out of curiosity uh you know this was I read this book in 200 I want to say maybe eight or nine
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somewhere in there. Are you familiar with uh Yakis Imperium? Um I am familiar with other Stanley Yakis Imperium.
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No no this is this is Francis Parker Yakis book Imperium. Oh no it's it's an infamous no text. Uh but it's a really interesting text that uh is probably the most recent I would say 20th century significant defense of
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like imperium geopolitics that uh would it's it's interesting. That's all I'll say. I don't agree with everything in it, but uh and I'm not saying that to like derail the conversation back in No.
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What makes it a no text? What makes Well, for a time he was in the circles of Tiny Mustache Man. uh ah he gets sort of like a um H highaidiger type of person who's in those circles and then
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gets disillusioned uh eventually with that but still writes about like the idea of imperium as geopolitical model.
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Probably the best the best part of the book though is actually the first I would say 300 pages. He basically just does this savage critique of the people that he sees as sort of like the key figures of modernity
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and particularly the 20th century. And he he sees that basically the 20th century and the two world wars couldn't have happened without Marx Freud and Darwin. He sees those figures as the really the spirit of the age like the
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zeit the figures of the zeitgeist and so it's a lot of interesting analysis of that as well as like uh international usery in finance being a key player um he talks a lot about nobility uh the role that nobility play a natural
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aristocracy culturebearers he talks about so there's a lot of really interesting stuff in that book that I think uh it's just it gets It's overlooked because of the associations. Probably people do the same thing with Haidiger, right? Oh,
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he's bad because he had this period where he was, you know, in tiny mustache man. But, um, what do you what do you think of H Highiger? Not trying to derail, but I I I um I you know, I had a uh
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I have strong opinions on Haidiger. I had uh one class on I had one class on Hoserol and then I had another class on the rest of the phenomenologists including Haidiger and I I was under I went to some lectures under Dermat Moran
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who's like the top sort of Hidiggarian phenomenologist guy. So I I mean I'm not a master of it. I've not spent a whole lot of time in it.
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[cough and clears throat] Um but I think that there's insights you know life being and all that stuff with Dawine is cool. Uh, but I've not put a whole lot of time into like being in time and I I don't know enough about it really to
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say. I mean, we actually we spent more time on Hoserol than we did on Hid on on on H Highiger, but I thought Haidiger's critique and kind of the way that he made fun of Hosroll was pretty accurate
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where he was like the whole class spent a whole Husel had a whole class spend like an entire ye semester staring at a mailbox to analyze all the different horizons of the object. And he's like, [clears throat] and he spent the whole
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time and he never thought about like, well, the the the object is like part of your whole lived experience. You can't abstract your way into perfectly abstract um mailbox to have a bracketed, you know, non influenced perspective of it.
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So I would I would definitely agree with the limitations of Hosuro and Hosuro kind of went off into like Buddhism towards the end of his career. But um you know anyway so I do like the Apoke.
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I I think I think the idea of bracketing is cool. You can never see yourself. See I'm seeing the screen I can't see myself seeing.
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It's a good idea to shoot for but it's not real. I don't think you can really ever get out of your own you know presuppositions and web of beliefs. No, no, you you can't you can't bracket them. Where I like Huser is um this is
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actually I think a Vatican 2 father, Canadian uh father from Vatican 2. I don't agree with this theology, but uh Lteran, Bernard Lan takes Husel and he he makes some really cool um I guess proofs against the reductivists or the
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materialists, the psychological materialists. He he says something like look at Archimedes looking at the bathtub you know for a million times trying to describe the water overflow you know which is what mathematically describe it uh one cool use of the
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Huserian epoke where you you bracket all the sensory input is you've looked at it say a thousand times if you're Archimedes and you've never been able to mathematically describe what happens when the water overflows well all of a
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sudden say the the thousand1st time he says aha and he has in insight and all of a sudden Archimedes comes up with you know a way to mathematically modify what's happening with spillover and the cool thing that lurgan does with
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phenomenology and with some whoeries just says well you bracket everything you knew before and all that sensory input and it still can't account for something new that happens with a human insight and it it proves that proves something very important about reason
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something arisatilian about reason proves something against the reductionists who are really taking over the universities in the early 20th century about um you know you know relativism and and what the mind the the constructs of the mind and stuff it's
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not just the brain so I think there are good uses of husterol I I think there are a lot of good uses of Haidiger I don't like how Haidiger thought that Aristotle said he was describing being and he was
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just describing beings I think that's where Haidiger is really wrong. But I think I think being in time and the introduction to metaphysics uh notebooks are really really insightful and I like his niche lectures as well. I think
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Haidiger doing niches um him at his best. Yeah, there's a really good thing too.
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Um it's super boring but I remember we had a whole class basically on the logical investigations of husoral and what [clears throat] I came away with that was actually like there's a super deep excellent critique of the scientific method where shows that
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because he's critiquing um Brenano's uh psychologist and sort of basic [ __ ] empiricism and he just he [clears throat] just basically says this whole uh project of scientism doesn't even realize that the science scientific method itself presupposes
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logic and mathematics. So, how are you going to have science that doesn't presuppose universal laws and categories? It's it's not possible. But they're also not under the purview of the scientific method itself. So, people in the audience, you probably heard me
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use that argument a lot in debates. I literally I literally cribed that from hostel's logical investigation. So, um yeah, there's a lot of good insights in Hos that kind of stuff even though he's not a presuppositionalist. That's a
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great point. Uh I would I would think. But got a couple more super chats here.
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Um by the way, really good uh uh conversation material here. Appreciate you coming on and having these deep philosophy chats. We don't get that much. We get No, we don't.
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Me acting like [ __ ] Yeah. Let's see. Banana Chan $5. Tim Gore versus Alex Saurin. Next debate. Well, hey, uh I did mention it to Tim. I mentioned it to Alex. We're because we're sort of looking for
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Debatecon 11. Yeah, 11 possibilities. Don't know what city that'll be in, but both of them seem to be open to some sort of prompt. I think that's a possibility. Both of them are uh very intelligent uh lawyers trained in law,
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so it'll be exciting to see uh whatever subject they come up with. Holly handmade $5. Is that a real puka shell necklace? Yeah, dude. I'm in Florida. It was the a a Wakandan on the Street vendor was selling these. So yeah, of
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course, Wigantium trends setters are bringing back Y2K. Yeah. I thought cuz [clears throat] I used to have a a puka shell necklace that I wore in uh in high school. So I was like, "Yeah, dude. This is my version of this is my version of
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like Uncle Rico living in the glory days, right? [laughter] Like I I could throw a football over that mountain.
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Could take state. Take state. Curado $5. This is a spectacular vic victory for Judeoy. Do you mean me and Tim doing a podcast or do you mean the midterms? I think you mean the midterms, but I don't know what you mean.
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What the [ __ ] [laughter] This is a vote for uh Judaism first. Chattnick $20 Tim or as he is known in the streets based Chris Angel.
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[laughter] Do you prefer being Creed Scott Stap or do you prefer being Chris Angel? Who do you vibe with more?
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I mean, Chris Angel is a hell of a lot more talented and I've gotten Scott I think that's how Jay and I became friends is he was like, "Yo, you're Scott Stap." And he thought I would be mad. I'm like, "Oh, I I got that every
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day. Everyone in my band literally called me Scott Stap." So, I'd rather be Chris Angel if I had to pick. But I've heard Tim's music since then. I didn't even know you were in a band. So that makes it even like then it makes it
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meta, dude. It's meta because you actually were in a band. Although you were not in a Creed type of band.
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No, no, no, no. We we're metal. Yeah. But you know, I also have the little little bit of wig zantium that I like to wear on my feet. I I do collect Jordans and that's that's You really do?
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I really do. I mean I love the 90s Jordan. Yeah. I was wearing Jordan fours at our Tim Pool debate and I was wearing Jordan twos. No, I was wearing Jordan threes at our uh debate on Elijah or
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whatever. Okay, you got to be comfortable. Okay. Yeah, I don't even know about any of that, but that sounds cool. Uh K Wigantium then my dude, my nagger.
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Uh we all we wear timberlands in Wigantium. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's There's a lot of snow. There's a lot of snow up in Agartha. Waggartha where the wiggers are in the snow above the ice wall. So you got to have Timberlands.
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Caven Ruse $5. I agree with states having more power, but if states have too much power, would there be wars between the states? Uh, well, I think we've had the Civil War. I guess that's possible. Tim, what would you say to
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that question? Would there be war between the states? In the whole history of small republics, they don't, this is another thing that I think is [ __ ] about Federalist 10. They don't go to war a lot. Little Malta, Little England,
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little Swiss canton, one with each other. The Swiss C canton had what what we call in political theory a league of friendship which is um kind of like the UN but not gay. And um No, I think they
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would be friends. I think they would the league of Baze bros. Yeah. Not League of Friendship does sound kind of gay, but League of It sounds League of The League of Baze Chads.
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There we go. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they would go to war. I think that's a a Misonsonian argument that was used as a justification in Federalist 10 and Federalist 39 to push people to being afraid uh to be small and to be afraid
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to have true republics, you know, like the size of small states like Delaware. The small the small republics in history are the ones that give us the examples of thousandear longlasting lives. So I don't think so.
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They also tend to be very unwarlike and tend to be great trade partners. So I would think no. I think that's masonian brainwashing and we all have it.
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we've got 2,000 in the house. What's up, dude? We got 2,000 over here just on YouTube. Shout out to the big fat audience today. All you dorks. Chad dorks in the audience. We love you guys.
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Kaima, $10. Jay, I'm a fan of your Hawaiian descent. Wait, Jay, I'm a fan, but I'm of Hawaiian descent. So, you're like uh Keanu and the Samoans or Samoans Hawaiian or is that different? That's a different island, in it. Anyway, I was
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looking into how King Kalakua was a 33rd degree Mason. Uh oh. I was wondering, could you discuss Freemasonry in Pacific geopolitics?
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Well, I'll be honest with you. I don't know a lot about Freemasonry in geop Pacific geopolitics, but I don't know.
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But I'm not surprised because masonry was used by the British Empire especially uh as sort of their international um spy network. So, yeah, I'm not surprised about that. But I honestly don't know a whole lot about that. But I think Protestantism in
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general, British Empire in general, uh, was very adept at using Freemasonry for multiple purposes, including, uh, you know, pushing all of the enlightenment values. And, you know, we've got a a Catholic buddy here with us. I remember when I was a TRAT, the thing that, you
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know, really woke me up to all this was I was at the SSPX mass and I remember getting a hold of a little booklet, which was Leo the 13th encyclical on Freemasonry. And uh you know that opened my eyes to a lot of things. I then went
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and read all the previous and other Masonic encyclicals that the popes have written. Of course, the Orthodox Church has basically the same take canonically and historically in the patriarch. It's the bishops about the invalidity of Freemasonry, but we've also had
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[clears throat] Greek Orthodox uh patriarchs who have famously been uh Freemason. So I know that it's everywhere. Um I'm not surprised that it's in Hawaii. I just don't know a whole lot about that topic, but it sounds really interesting. Um Tim,
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anything you want to add to that about the role of sort of Freemasonry or any of those stuff?
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At the end of the 20th century famously, uh Leo the 13th was was talking about Freemasonry a lot and he said what's coming is separation of church and state. I think Pis the 10th said that too at the beginning of the 20th
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century. Yes, that was the that 1947 case Everson versus Board of Ed which reversed the first amendment that uh we were talking about a half hour ago was Everson versus Board of Ed is this brainwash. Uh and it
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was seven of the nine Supreme Supreme Court members in the late 40s in 1947 were were high ranking Masons.
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Yes. They they did the the reversal of the first amendment. You know, it's funny you said that because I just remembered there's another book from Tan Publishers, uh, called Behind the Lodge Door by Paul Fischer. Uh, that's another
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classic I read as a tried. Um, have you read Solange Herz? I came across her stuff when I was a tried.
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No, but I've heard I should. Uh, well, yeah, I you I guess you would like it, but I mean, she was kind of popular in those uh, you know, SSPX sort of French right-wing circles and her book, right? She might be German. I
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don't know if she's friend, but um her book Americanism uh was one of the first things that really got me questioning a lot of the classical liberal values and you know a lot of the right-wing a lot of the monarchist stuff is pretty pretty
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popular in the SSPX [music] circles back in the day when I was in that. But um yeah, I think I think uh there's a lot of overlap when it comes to the idea of uh what the role of the state is both
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with Catholic and traditional orthodox ideas. And I just gave a talk at a big conference uh about a month ago. You might be interested in that because I went into a lot of the history of Byzantium and what the Byzantine
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canonists, how they view church and state. Um pretty pretty much I think all the same basically the same ideas as the traditional Catholic position. So um anyway, but if you guys missed that my Lwell conference talk, I did it on
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Byzantine uh legal theory and whatnot, which a lot of that was new to me. It was fascinating to study that because I didn't know a lot of it.
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I'm really interested in that. So, someone asked me that. They said, "What's the the EO political theology on all this?" Because I do a lot of, you know, Catholic political theology. And I said, "I think it's the same as ours,
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but I I need to ask Jay." So, I I'll actually check that out. Yeah. I think every state prior to modernity, you know, in Christian civilization believe that the state had a specific duty to God uh and to the
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church. So, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, right, the whole idea of the double-headed eagle is church and one body of the people with church and state working in symphonia is the ideal.
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Um, it's never going to be perfect. There's always going to be squables, but um yeah, so by the way, I'm going to be debating Trent on this very topic.
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Oh, in December. Yeah. So, we're we're going to debate two two different subjects. Uh, one I forget the name of or forget the exact prompt of the first one. something to do with like divorce and contraception in the first
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several centuries or millennium, I forget how he has laid out the prompt. And the second prompt will be about uh did the Roman Catholic Church change its position on the role of church and state. So, it's going to be interesting
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because I I I assume Trent is going to try to argue that there's a continuity. Um, but it it took it took me a year of negotiating and and altering and you know getting him to figure out a prompt
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he was willing to do. So anyway, it's going to be fun. Um, but my that Byzantine talk, I'll send you that later if you're interested. That might be relevant.
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Yeah, I am interested. Similar subjects. Tom Bombadel, sorry that that's in that's in Orlando or Dallas.
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Oh, we just did Orlando. That was last week. So, this this one is Dallas in February.
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Oh, in February. Yeah. Why did I think it was December? Uh, they changed it. It was supposed to be in December originally. They moved it. Um, cuz he couldn't get the right place or whatever. So, this is going to
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be big because I think uh there'll be [ __ ] U is debating um Andrew and I think [ __ ] is also debating Destiny and I'm debating Trent twice. I'm sure you know, God logic and everybody else will
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be there debating the Muslims, but um Yeah. Anyway, so I I don't know if you got a chance to see any of the David Wood debates, but I had some pretty amusing debates. Two debates with David Wood on
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uh I saw some clips. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tom Bombadil, $4. I couldn't find a meter. Here's $4. Okay. You owe reparations to Wiganthium, by the way.
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Uh Erica Russell, five bucks. What a woman is. That's actually one of my favorite documentaries. So, you got we got a fan there, Tim.
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Cool. She really enjoyed it. Or Eric, not Erica, excuse me. Legit Roman $20. Roman Catholic and Oriental Orthodox love Orthodox icons.
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Well, I think everybody does because I think they're beautiful. Yeah. John Cole, $5. This is great stuff. I'm actually visiting my first divine liturgy this weekend. Hey, that's great, man. That's awesome.
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J Mel, $15. It's ironic that Fuentes is Hamiltonian. Trump claims to be Hamiltonian with his tariffs and his industry. What do you any take any take on that?
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It's well, it's a basic tension. This is what I want. I'm trying to you know, Nick's a North guy. I'm a South guy and I think um it's just hard for a a North guy to that that defends the culture of
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the North to ever get off of Hamiltonianism. But this is why I want to do this follow-up show. It was supposed to happen a long time ago. Um, I think I could convince him because I just I just don't think there's real
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defending of pure Hamiltonianism. But but but what the commenter the super chatter is right. That that's exactly right.
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Cody sends $100. Wow, you guys are being super generous today. I appreciate that. He says, "God bless." Well, God bless you, Cody. Much appreciated. You and uh your bro are making the big fat. Y'all are paying the bills. You're keeping the
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toilets flushed around here. Kieaven Roose $5. Tim, do you think there's ever been an example of say 50 plus republics that united in a confederation in history? The US I think is too big for that in my opinion.
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No, but we already mocked the term, but the League of Friendship thing is very real. And even if you looked at the way that the Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire operated, um particularly under like Charlemagne, it was just the the
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countries that were taken over by Rome were really still tribal countries that had all their own culture, pretty much all their own laws. They were just taxed under what we would call a requisition system. Um and I I'd be fine with that.
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So it wouldn't be it doesn't need to be as it was under the Articles of Confederation. It actually wasn't 13 different countries. That was um it was a little more than a League of Friendship, but definitely not as um
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central or energetic a government as 1788 constitution reified. So you can kind of get closer and closer to where do I exactly believe? I kind of believe slightly different scope of government on different days, but it's all within a
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range. Like if you look at the United States from 1776 to 1788, for those 12 years, we had the Articles of Confederation. That was one branch of government. It was um simply a Congress.
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Congress is a treaty gov term, by the way. Uh as is federal means it's a treaty .gov term. Treaty government just means a league of friendly nations who get together to fight wars together and they only have this one branch of government called a
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Congress. They only meet in the summer. There was no federal judiciary. There was no federal executive. Um all of the states under that system had their own three branches of government. So absolutely there were 13 kind of republics that were kind of like
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one um when they would get together once a year for about a month in the summer and they would have a a congress. Um then there was the second phase of the United States what we call the antibbellum phase which is basically
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between the revolution uh between 1788 and the civil war we had more energetic three branch national federal government but stuff still kind of worked because states rights were robust and then we had after the civil war the 14th
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amendment came in supplanted all of the constitution turned everything turned states rights on their heads we had incorporation doctrine under the fourth.
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We had state action doctrine under the 14th and it just became total federal leviathan. So I I could go back to phase one or phase 2 more or less anarchco libertarian. I just know that phase three after the civil war the country is
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already [ __ ] So that's you know ask me a different thing on a different day and I'll tell you phase one. Other days I'll tell you phase two. But I know phase three ain't working.
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Patriarch of East Tennessee. $5. As a Tennessee Hill person living in a cave, even I am not stupid enough to vote, let alone have a prolapse over predetermined human rituals. I love I did love to see Vivc rather Shardy get sent back to
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Delhi. Von Dier $10. I would love for my two favorite Wiggas here to do a movie analysis collaboration.
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Uh, you know, I never thought about doing that with uh Tim. That'd be an interesting conversation to do a movie analysis. Have you ever have you ever done a movie analysis on your channel?
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I've done a couple I've done more written movie analysis. I used to actually do it for Bishop Baron, but um and and um our mutual friend who just So, did you did you did like uh hentai reviews or like what how did that work?
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I would just I would just um write little reviews for movies I liked a lot.
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That was That was a joke, dude. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah.
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[laughter] I'm sorry. I couldn't resist it. Look, I love you, Tim. I'm just making jokes, man.
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Yeah. I got you. Um I think it could be fun. This guy is suggesting that we do a review of The Mission, the 1986 film with Robert Dairo, the Jesuits. I'm sure you've seen that.
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Um I've seen it once. I thought it was more boring than other It is pretty boring. I mean the other thing too is like [snorts] I kind of think the purpose of that movie is like oh colonialism is is the
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great enemy because see they were great noble savages until the papacy and the Jesuits and the you know colonizers showed up. uh you know in the same could you the left would say the same thing about you know Bzantium or the Russian
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Empire sending missionaries like oh see that's a colonialist I got a very anti-colonialist vibe from that that oh you see so did I we just need to go back to like the you know this false idea of the noble savage
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which is a creative mythology of the left but um it's about jazz yeah what what do you think about um Apocalyptto very very opposite I love Apocalypse it's one of my favorite moves yeah I love it Yeah, I
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love it, too. I' I've only recently reconnected with it. I' I'd love to do I I'm very open to this, by the way.
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I I mean, I'm always I've I've been a fan of Mel Gibson since the '9s. I was like Mel Gibson's the first guy that got me into conspiracy stuff through conspiracy theories. So, uh I mean, I know it's not I mean, it's it's a Mel
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Gibson movie, but also it's not technically me. Dick Donner and all that, but so yeah, I've always been a Mel Gibson fan, but um yeah, that could be we could we could do a a you know, Mel analysis. I think Jamie and I did
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Apocalyptto maybe a year or two ago, but um but we could find something if you want to do a movie movie analysis. Von Dier says, "Uh, it's about the Jesuits.
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It deals with the conflict between church and state, clericalism, etc." Yep. Esserk Floydism. $10. Jay, did you read any of Anatoli Galitson's stuff?
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What do you think of his works? He was a top KGB defector. Um, I think it's CIA propaganda, honestly. So, my buddy Mark Hackard, who specializes in all that stuff with the KGB lore, he translates a lot of their uh older texts and he did a
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great analysis at uh if you go to Espionage History Archive and you look up uh his article on Galiten and he has one on um uh Yuri Bzmanov. So basically what you get from both of these characters is
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halftruths that the CIA wanted out to prop up their narrative in the Cold War.
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So they're very useful for uh Western CIA narratives. So um and I think ultimately as you guys know much of the Cold War was a deflection from who the real purveyors of socialism and Marxism were. Not Moscow but uh very Middle
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Eastern people and uh the Rockefellers. the rocket those that's the main people pushing uh Marxism, bulcheism, socialism and uh you know Moscow gets used gets taken over by these people. So um also the CIA had a specific position. They
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were not anti- this is what people misunderstand this. The CIA was never anti- it was never right-wing and it was never anti- socialism. It was anti-S Stalinism and those things are distinct.
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That's why the CIA went to the Cold War partly because Stalin didn't accept the Marshall Plan aid. And so that does not make Stalin a good guy. It makes him a sort of useful dialectical opposition between uh the NKVD and the CIA. And so
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ultimately both sides are kind of bad news is my position [sighs] into the a in wait to the end of the age. $10. Did you guys hopefully you guys are doing some research and soulsearching after Larry Loomer said
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God has abandoned tra traditional Christianity because you guys didn't support uh Netanyahu hard enough.
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Um, God abandon her face. How about that? Because it doesn't even look like a human face anymore. Dave Costa, $20.
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Here are my reparations. Emperor Wiganthium. We need a cringecore record banger with Chris Angel here together.
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Well, I mean, I need I need him to become Scott Staff so that we can do a Creed uh co-op together because I love singing the Creed songs. Even though I'm not even I'm not even a Creed fan. It's
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just fun to sing them. But cheese click $10. If there is a future religion that is to come, what do you think it would be? What is your take on Brave New World?
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Uh I don't know what the rest of that's gibberish. Um if you're asking about the novel Brave New World, uh our mutual buddy, uh Frank and I, we did an entire podcast series Frank and I did on Brave
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New World. We went through every chapter in the book. It was a great series that we did. We also did the same thing for The Godfather. So, you can find those in the archives. I think they're at my
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website. Archives are not public on YouTube but um I mean there's a quasi religion sort of going on in Brave New World where it's like it's like a sex magic orgy rave basically is the religion uh of Brave New World. Maybe that could take
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off as a potential future religion. You know, St. Saraphim Rose thinks that it is some form of like new age Hindu type stuff that it will be the future in world religion. Um you know any of those things could be the case? Probably just
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some kind of synretatistic blending of all things. Uh Tim any idea what the uh last days whenever that is of false world religion might be?
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No clue. I don't know. Can return to Canaanite stuff. Yeah. It's always the sex magic, isn't it? I mean, you know, more seems like it would be Yeah, it would be like the butt stuff, which is pretty pretty prominent. I'm serious, though. I
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mean, I know it is. It's gonna It's gonna be some kind of thing like that for sure.
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Um, how are you on time? Are you Are you cool? Are you Yeah, exactly. Are you cool to keep discussing? Do you need to go? Do you want to I mean, it's all totally up to you. I'm not trying to run
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you off. Um, no, no, I'm cool. I'm cool till 4:30, so I got eight more minutes.
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Okay. So, let's see. You got some more super chats here. What's up, Mike? Thank you for the memberships there. Uh Wayne says, "For $10, YouTube Premium was G, this is a problem I had at the beginning, was giving me the same
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message, but I bought separate accounts for my daughter." Uh I just have one account though, but I got a bunch of tabs because I'm a live streamer. So we had to not use the account at the same time. It's the ghost of Susan Wajjiki
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in the Phil. What's up, sincere hypocrite Jay? today. I'm not an accelerationist, but I'm sick of kicking the can down the road, delaying the inevitable. What is the reasonable middle ground? Look, well, today's show uh and we we'll continue when Tim
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leaves, we're going to talk about uh Simon Dixon's analysis because the further I went into that podcast, the more excellent I thought it was. And we're going to get into all this when he comes on next week. Uh but he goes
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really deep into shadow banking and that, you know, really the heart of all this system is a usery debt based system. So, I don't think we can really solve things until that gets solved.
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We're going to keep having all the same problems. I don't know how we solve that, but um I think we saw with the blue wave, just another example of uh accelerationism is here whether you want it or not. I'm not advocating for
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accelerationism. I'm saying that these the the mass mind has opted to essentially go with uh let's just let's just go full evil and then that will lead to some form of collapse and correction and repentance. I don't know
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what that means. I don't know if we're going back to prairie muffins and 1800s.
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I don't know. But we are going to be accelerating towards bad things whether we like it or not. We don't have to be blackpilled because that means you can be free from all this in my view. I saw
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kicking. Let's see. Uh, no, we did that. We're going to talk about that when when Tim leaves is what I'm trying to say.
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All that yapping just to say that. Um, Jacob says, "Do an open politics debate stream." By the way, if you guys got questions for Tim, get them in now before Tim has to go.
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Refute the GDP boomer normies. Use your KGB geopolitics knowledge. Uh, well, I'm not doing open debates anymore. So, uh, that's over. We are past the age. The age of the open debate with the [ __ ] calling in is over. So
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we're done. No more. Tupacabra. No, we did that one. He says is the best one.
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Banana. We did that one. Okay, moving down. I don't know what these jewels are, but if I'm getting paid, I'm all I'm all good.
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Mr. Jacks, $10. You should have a collab. Uh Tim Tim Gordon, you need to have a collab with Benjamin Luigi Luigi or Ben Michael. He has good ideas on what the white people in America need to do. This
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all seems inevitable. Balkcanization, ethnogenesis perhaps. Any thoughts on guys? We This is YouTube. We got to go careful with these. Um but I'll ask him like uh any interest on um future discussions of such uh topics perhaps not on YouTube.
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It's my passion bulcanization. I mean it's what what all of this Aristotle amity subsidiarity boils down to is you know break breaking it back up into the small where where you know you can have a good state where all the good people
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can go live or a good set of states where all the good people can live. So yeah and then the ethno stuff um follows on that. So I think that's really important. I'd love to do a collab with
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uh Ben Luigi. Yeah. Tom Bombadil. Uh no we did that one. Excuse me. Welcome to the new members.
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Um, okay, here's one for Tim. Tim, this is Jimmy Putron. $5. Tim, will you be doing any celebration streams with Fuentes over Vivvec Rishardy rather Shardy being deported to India? Why does Vivbec look like Indian Jimmy Neutron?
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[laughter] He does. Um I don't know. I I I'm still waiting to do a kind of celebration stream where we can talk about Hamilton Jefferson, but yeah, I I' I'd be very into having him on the show now. I've been waiting for a year to do
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the followup. It would be great. Ortho Fu, I appreciate that. Uh $5. If we are blessing Israel, why are we in a degenerate, downgrading society? It sounds like we're cursed and not blessed. That's an interesting question.
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Cheese click. Uh, $5. Sorry, I'm at work. I thought it was Trent Horn. I'm so sorry. Um, no, this is not the Trent Horn podcast. Sorry, Jimmy. Let's see.
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Jire Clipwave. $5. Do you have any thoughts on Julius Eve? Um, you know, I've read a couple of Eve's books. I think he's interesting, but he also pushes, you know, butt sex magic, and that's not that interesting to me. So,
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no [snorts] I'm being serious. No, carpet, by the way. Remember, there was a guy that called in and was arguing and talking [ __ ] like a year ago is insisting that Eve didn't say that or talk about that
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or teach that. And then I spent an hour and I finally found where he does.
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Remember that? No. Be a carpet $5. Who would you guys recommend as good philosophers to read after Plato and Aristotle? Tim, this is an interesting one. Um, you know, actually the Muslim um aoism is really important on the day. It depends
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how how into it you want to go, but I would always say say St. Thomas um a verois some of the Latin Aoists are really important but um it's it's definitely going to be um depending on the branch of philosophy you want to
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study some sort of um medieval arisetilian 100%. Uh I would say read uh even though it's an orthodox person um read uh uh revolution or nihilism roots of the modern revolution by uh St. start from Rose because he basically analyzes
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leftism's progression towards uh from like universal you know everything's getting better utopian stuff to basically uh you know Lenin Trosky blow up the world cuz we're you know wicked nihilist type stuff there's always that dark logic and he does a
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really good critique of the 20th century from that perspective so I would say that's a great one to read that's relevant for what we're talking about today especially with America going in the direction that it is Okay, there's a
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great book on that note called Deconstructing Postmodernism. Amazing, amazing philosophical analysis of uh what's happened the last hundred years from from a philosophical perspective. Really excellent, excellent book.
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Um Okay. Well, Tim, uh it's is it is it your time to go or did you say Yeah, we'll peace out. Thanks. Great, great combo and thanks for stumping the class and hold us again. So, uh, Timothy, what's the website?
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timothyjgordon.com. timothyjgordon.com. Go to classes and we, you know, it's, uh, like 185 bucks to get in. You will be masterful at the Nicomckian ethics in just four classes.
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We're going to do all 10 books starting Wednesday, uh, books one and two. So, read books one and two before you come in. And, uh, timothyjgordon.com classes. got the link right there in the chat for you guys. I'm going to add the
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link right now to the show description as well. There is the uh Retrograde Academy if you want to take Tim's course. Also guys, remember we do have my course which is uh my uh full 12 lectures, 24 hours
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of material as well as recommended reading uh the history of Western philosophy course right there. If you guys want to get my course, you can do it as well in the link in the show description. uh and then check out uh no
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I I do not go very heavy into aerosol we do a little bit aerosle we also have FDA come on and who is an Aeros PhD guy as well so there's a little bit of aerosol in my course but Tims would be a lot
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more focused uh especially ethically on um Aristotle's uh yeah Aristotles ethics I was just trying to read this super chat here um yeah Tim thank you so much for coming on appreciate you and look forward to uh chatting in the future
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yeah thanks a million Jacob God bless you man. Anytime to start another stream in it.
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No, we're still here. We good? [ __ ] We good. What the heck? So, sometimes when you close out the collab cam link, uh, Streamlabs crashes.
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So, we good. We good. We good. You know what I'm saying? We good. We ain't going nowhere. We just lost 800 people.
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We good though. What's up? Welcome everybody. We're still here. Um, I got stuff I want to cover. Uh, I want to cover some of these Tucker clips.
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We ain't going nowhere. Just sometimes stream lives crashes. You know what I'm saying? All right. I want to get to some of these clips. Uh, I am going to go grab some more coffee though because we had a great conversation with
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Tim. So, uh, don't go anywhere. We'll play a little bit of this smooth bond music for all you chat nerds out there and we will be right back. We ain't going nowhere. Ain't going nowhere.
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[music] [music] [music] [music] [music] of course was a repudiation of Trump and so we can say without hyperbole or gloating this is the end of the Trump era last night we're done it's also the end by the way of the Fox News era a
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former White House staffer called today and described Fox News is the president's real PDB, his real presidential daily brief, the place where he gets his information. And there's some truth in that. And it's hard to imagine that we would have gone
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to war in Iran if Fox News hadn't broadcast specifically to the president who they knew was watching specific shows, the Mark Leavin show, the morning show. He watches those. They know that.
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Yeah. Um, what does all this represent? A lot of things. We're going to talk about that now. We're going to get into the real locust of power. We've been talking about elite theory as you guys know in the last couple weeks on the channel.
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We're going uh we go deep homeboy to quote Sam Tripoli. We have cut out low IQ content. The low IQ content is gone.
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It went straight to Robes Pierre's guillotine. Okay. No more slow boy low IQ content. We're straight fast boy content now. From henceforth and so mode it be bish please. I'm over here streaming every day. Pay your reparations.
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[sighs] Now, I want to get to some of Tucker's commentary and uh I think he's correct.
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And I want to get to um Simon Dixon's excellent interview with Danny Jones. And we're going to talk about the basic layout that he gives for the real locus of power as he breaks it down, especially the shadow banking and how
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the big banking, international banking structure really works. This is why things don't change. This is why we don't actually see fake and gay voting actually doing anything. And like we were saying with Tim, uh I first got into the idea of a critique of
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western democracy, post-enlightenment thinking, etc. At the same time as I was taking college classes on philosophy and American history uh and because I'm a history major as well I'm two classes away from a double major in philosophy and history but and then my grad work is
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philosophy and English but the I took a lot of history class is what I'm trying to say. So I started questioning our whole paradigm of what we are kind of raised with right after the big nine event. Now I read my first book on
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conspiracy stuff uh which was a critique of the United Nations pushing Marxism and socialism in 199798.
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So my senior year of high school was my first introduction to conspiracy thinking and the problems with what we are presented with in norm and the big nine event was a huge catalyst at least questioning the big nine event because
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when it happened I didn't really know about it like what was actually going on. I I didn't know what a false flag was in in 2001. I think I first learned about that one what what that was right
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after the big nine event and that was actually through I think Ebomb's world of all places. But that sent me down the rabbit hole of the conspiracy theorists and David Ike and Alex Jones and all the classics from you know loose change and
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uh onward. But that sparked an academic interest in these topics. So, all of that backstory to tell you that um I learned and figured out that democracy and voting was fake and gay in the 2000s and not because of uh any political
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movement, but I was an avid reader. And so I was reading a lot of classical conservative writings and commentaries uh and fringe writings that are just now beginning to kind of enter into the public vernacular and and the mass mind
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which is just for me is kind of crazy because I didn't stick to just a political conspiracy domain. I went way deep into history and geopolitics and and and then of course into espionage and that kind of stuff. So really conspiracy is really
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just a gateway into the reality of how the world works with espionage, shadow banking, etc.
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That that's the real power structure. That's what's really going on. Um that's the world that is hidden in plain sight that we all hear about. Think how many cases we've heard over the last 30 years of famous spy stories. We hear about
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Valerie plane and we hear about the 911 hijackers and the Saudi, you know, operatives and this and that which we hear about Jonathan Pard and the Israeli operatives and whatnot. And those are windows into what's really going on,
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right? The most extreme form of this was Epstein in the last several years of what's really going on, the real power, the real power behind the throne.
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Um and once again with a extremely hyped up election with obsessive American political theater football about these elections, we've seen a giant wave of disappointment, which to people who figured out all this stuff was fake and gay 20 years ago, it's not only it's
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not disappointment, It's just more so perhaps alienating because we inhabit such different realities from most people. And I don't mean that in an arrogant douchebag sense like I'm so much smarter than everyone. No, no. I mean the reality of the world that I
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know of and see in my interpretive matrix and framework when I see the world is so vastly different from what the boomer sees when he interprets it.
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That's why I was making fun of boomers. 15 years ago. So, I am literally the godfather of the boomer meme and making fun of boomers. I take full credit for that. Nobody was before me in in that domain.
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I wrote essays making fun of boomers 15 years ago that went viral. Um, so yeah, that's all my work. You are welcome. By the way, we're finally getting some of our due thanks. Some of those reparations are now being paid
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by you beloved citizens of Wiganthium. Um, the vindication has arrived. Thank you. Thank you guys. If you want to support the stream, you can do so through super chat function. We had a nice uh well with the stream
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accidentally crashed because of closing out collab cam and then we lost we had 2,000. Um but now we're down to about 1,500. But that's okay. Them nerds will trickle back in. Y'all some fickle nerds, dude. Y'all some fickle nerds.
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Just run away. Just run. Just flee. Just the slightest. So just flee. Y'all nerves got to develop some more constancy, some more attention.
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Get off your little Tik Toks. Get your attention span back. Ah, I got me a nice espresso.
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It's nice and hot. I like when espresso is not the best when it gets cold. It's good when it's hot, though.
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Do I not read super chats? Of course I do. What do you mean? We just read freaking 20 super chats to with Tim Gordon.
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Gainerzilla $5. The third position is going to explode. That will be a response to the DSA and Marxism, populism, and socialism. Moderate conservatives are actually going to be pushed far right after two years.
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[sighs and gasps] Yeah. I mean, we've talked about this a lot. I don't know that that's that that's a real thing.
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Um, we'll have to do a whole separate thing. But just you can't even talk about that.
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No, it's all good, dude. I'll see you right here. I just hadn't got to you yet. Anthony says, "For $5, what do you think about young men joining the military to gain influence?" Uh, I don't think that's a wise idea. I would not
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join the military. Uh, that's my personal assessment. Uh, I'm not going to go fight in other countries for BB and for Starbucks. If you want to go die for BB and Starbucks, arch poop transfer groper $10. Jay, I
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wanted to say thank you for all that you do. I'm being received in Orthodox Church soon. That's great, dude. Many years to you. I've been told you visited St. Anonyas in Indiana. Yes. Uh we have great great friends there. I won't say
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who I do people, but yeah, two of our good buddies are there. U Father Daniel's great. Absolutely love him.
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Will we ever get another Imperial appearance of the Emperor Wiganthium? Uh, yeah, I would imagine we already.
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Father Daniel has texted me fairly recently. I just I think I forgot to reply. My mistake. Love you, Father Daniel. I didn't mean to do that, but um yeah, I'm sure we could because it's not too far from Tennessee. That's not too
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far. So, yeah, we'll get to meet up soon, dog. Appreciate that. Uh, make sure I didn't miss any of the super chats over here. Okay, we're good.
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[snorts] You got to remember too when you join the military or when you jo join any of these agencies or you know you join the CIA or the FBI or that kind of stuff like they own you. So I would not want
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to be owned by those entities. You know what I mean? Guys, you want to help me hit the super chat goal? Um I will uh help out Tim Gordon today. If you want to help us out, we can help Tim out with
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uh super chats so you're not just giving money to the greatest e diva on the internet. [sighs] So, let's hear a little bit more of this because uh you know this is for me it's like dude it's all fake. Voting is fake and gay. Now, I
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understand the idea of, well, maybe cuz Trump did appear to do some good things, especially this second term, the first year and a half, it was looking like, man, we might really actually get some change.
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Uh, that did not last very long. That was quickly quickly stamped out. And so, we got the rise of the indestructible, the indomitable, the nothing can stop it, the boomer.
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I've been watching blob movies and so I was like this is this is what it is dude. Now what did I say 10 years ago? I think what I said 10 years ago still applies. Where's that clip? Here we go.
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And I think I was saying this. This was 2016. This is like the first Trump election is when I said this. Well, lo and behold, here we are 2016 to 2026.
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Not much has changed. Try to fix today's problems. politically. And this is what so many people in alt circles and alt-right and alt whatever and alt media, they all seem to think that there's like a political solution to man's problems.
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And really, the the the whole of modernity is built on this neopagan concept of political salvation. And there is no political salvation for man because man's problems are not essentially political. Uh they're spiritual. I would say if you want to be
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in politics, run locally. We got our buddy or actual Orthodox Christian. He got elected mayor.
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So seize power locally, dude. Who cares about all this DC butt stuff? That's all gay, dude.
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All this DC butt stuff, dude. By the way, uh somebody is reporting on the election of fake Orthodox people that are fake and gay and then there's some kind of controversy over money given to these groups or something. I'm like,
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and once again, like, yeah, of course, we've been saying this. Oh, but it's somehow it's going to be the evil Ortho Bros. Are the fault of that, too, right? [sighs and gasps] Um, there was something else I wanted to
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talk about. What was it? Oh, this now Barack Obama. Have I not been saying these dudes?
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Because remember his dad, the chief pastor of their accuminist fake church, his dad campaigned and voted for Camala.
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I've been telling you guys these are like fake Christian Dem operatives. That's my thesis.
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And it's not just because I don't like the dude. It's also because uh what he said about like open borders type stuff or what he hinted at in his tweets about open borders in the past.
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Christians don't have borders or some gay [ __ ] like that. I forget what exactly what he said. Something terrible. Um but then he also is literally pushing Obama biographies.
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Like who the who the f like seriously reads Obama biographies and tells the audience that they should read Obama biography.
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Now I'm reading um Barack Obama or Barack Obama as Michael Scott will call him his new his presidential memoir is a promised land.
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It's really interesting and people always assume something if you're reading, you know, I I read all kinds of people whether I Yeah, I assume you're gay as hell. Like that's that is my assumption that is correct. And I I think I think
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everyone's gayar is going off when you're telling him to read Obama books. Agree with him politically or not. But I I like him. He he strikes me as a sincere person.
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Yeah. There's your discernment from Gabe in Orland. His discernment tells him that Obama's a very sincere, good dude and he likes him. As his dad votes for and campaigns for Camala, as they hire a preacher married to another dude. Oh,
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but of course it's the evil Ortho Bros. that it's Jay Dyer that's the problem with this whole scenario. It's not Gavin Ortland that's a problem. But you'll notice people are starting to figure out that there's there's something sus going on
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here. Yeah. Every time I tell you somebody's sus, I'm right. I told you roots of Orthodoxy was sus. I told you Alex Voice of Sleen, whatever his name is.
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I was right about all that. Oh, but it doesn't matter if you're right about all that because you're mean. So you see you're mean. Like what?
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Mean. If that's the best you got, then I'm doing good. I can't help but highlight this too. Like this guy of all the problems going on in the world in the church, and this guy focuses on calling out clergy having
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weapons. Like, is this a really a real problem in the church? I don't think so.
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I mean, most everybody's been convinced to be Skittles pacifists. So, I don't even see how is this even like some real problem in the church.
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And by the way, it drives me crazy because every one of these high-profile pre-lates, whatever version of Christianity they are, they have bodyguards.
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Do you think their bodyguards aren't armed? So he can be armed and protected with Secret Service, but it doesn't count because it's not him with the gun, it's the Secret Service guy next to him. I mean, that's just like even more pitiful, dude. Like,
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what? [gasps] Like if you're going to be consistent with this and you want to tout like your moral high ground, you have the moral high ground, Anakin, then don't have Secret Service because this is crazy. It's the same with the
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Pope, too, by the way. Like the Pope will talk about disarmament and people not having and then the Pope's got like literally like 20 secret service dudes around his little Pope mobile. This is insane.
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Tear down those walls. tear down the borders. But the Pope has a giant Leoning wall and it's a city-state with its own secret service and like what are you talking about?
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Uh so what this signifies to get back to this and so we can say this is the end of the boomer narrative. Okay, the boomers are uh getting older. Um, people don't care about Sean Hannity and Fox News in 10 years when the boomers have
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moved on. I'm not championing that. I have obviously family family members that I love that are boomers. I don't hate all boomers, but the speaking in general that we do about generations, whether it's Gen Z, whether it's uh
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millennials, you know, Gen X, whatever. Something wrong with talking about the characteristics and traits of generations. The Bible does this. The Bible talks about wicked generations.
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this generation more wicked than the f the further further than the former generation. Uh so nothing wrong with speaking of generations. Yes, I'm well aware that social engineers utilize the uh generational warfare for class conflict and all that. I don't give a
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[ __ ] about any of that because I was just making boomer jokes and I will continue to make boomer jokes. Um so uh this is the end of the boomer cathedral narrative. Uh, it is collapsing with their post-modern archetype, Trump
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himself. Trump's failures have essentially become the end the the apocalyptic Armageddon end times of the Boomer Zioon ethos. That whole uh cathedral is now collapsing.
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Of course, there was Netanyahu pushing from the outside of this. Now, there's one that there's a good side to this, which is that we are finally emerging from the the chaos and the smoke of the collapse of the Boomer
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Boomer Cathedral. The bad part of this is it's going to be an accelerationist socialist tech hell hole probably. Now, that's not blackpilling. [laughter] I know that sounds like dystopian uh end times nightmare. It's not actually blackpilling. It's It's not. I promise
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you it's not. There's good news from all of this. First of all, because the logic of this older idea, this the Boomer legacy cathedral system, it has to collapse. The internal contradictions within that necessitate its own collapse. Also, just the passing of
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time, right? Because the boomers are going to be moving into the uh the beyond in the next 10 to 20 years. So, we will be under the dominance of the Elder Gen X and the Gen X. It is yet to
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be determined what type of a leadership we'll get with Elder and um normal Gen X. It could be worse, it could be better.
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It's hard to say. The problem is that the last gasps of the previous system uh are seemingly going to be a behemoth monstrosity, some sort of hobbsian leviathon of Silicon Valley socialist UBI tech lord dystopia. It's probably the worst scenario, right?
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because the fintech financial industrial complex FIC and the TIC um will probably have the upper hand.
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Military industrial complex, MIC, remember this is Simon Dixon's three uh power blocks, so to speak, which all overlap obviously. But I think I think the tech bros and the the the fintech and the tech bros are going to
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kind of get the upper hand. That's what I expect is coming. And that's going to necessitate understanding the actual power structure to actually have any change. That's going to necessitate retards like Matt Walsh and all of these coninc goobers
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not being listened to. Problem is, we're going to get a new batch. The system will create a new batch of fake controlled opposition people. There's no way to stop that. There's no way to get around that. The system still has all
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the money and then [snorts] they can print infinity money whenever they get whatever fiat CBDC ecoin that they push which will compete with Bitcoin. So once again, I have to tell you, your only option is Bitcoin, gold. I just don't
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think boomer shiny rocks are the future. Okay? We're not going to go back to 1800s. We're not going to We're not going to be prairie muffins. You're not going to get your Mormon spacewives. I'm I'm sorry. You're not. We're not going
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to be sailing around in our Spanish gallions with chest of gold to balloons with Peter Schiff running [ __ ] You can either have a decentralized hardcapped coin. That's the future or some CBDC, fiat, fedcoin. There's really no other options. I think we're
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already at the point where you can't stop Bitcoin. We've even got the institutional adoption. So even if they go with a CBDC to try to track and trace and control and destroy everybody and control everybody, it still has to
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compete with the thing that was created to fight that. You see, and I don't know how successful that's going to be. So that's why it's not blackpilling. This is actually liberating. It's freeing because now you don't have to worry
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about a bunch of fake and gay [ __ ] You can focus on, okay, how do I exit the matrix dog?
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And for our Palpatine level designs to come to fruition, everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.
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The boomer legacy system must pass and that is what's happening. So it's not all dark skies country, but within the country, the main lobby for this war was Fox News.
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And it's been systematic. And it's not an attack made out of bitterness. It's just an observable reality. And you can check it if you want cuz the eclipse reside forever. They're there. And Fox News anchors spoke as one really with
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only one exception in the entire lineup. There's only one person who's even mildly skeptical of the Iran war. That person, of course, has been denounced, needless to say, is an anti-semite. Hitler adjacent.
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But everybody else, whether through fear or foolishness, got on board and and this is what they got. A total destruction of the Republican party. So that that's over. I mean, and some of us took a long long time to
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realize this. I'll admit it that this there's like actual corruption going on in this administration was last summer.
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It was in July and it was when the Epstein files resurfaced as an issue.
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And this is kind of underrated I think as no we've been highlighting this as the main catalyst turning point. Yeah there's other problems. Warp speed itself was a problem but this was obviously the massive public turning point was the Epstein files.
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One of the causes for yesterday's disaster. The Epstein files revealed not simply that there was, you know, clearly something very, very dark going on with this group of people who have a ton of power, but that the people
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currently in power who elected to expose those people who had power were also part of the same group, that they were actually members in good standing of the Epstein class. And if they weren't, then why didn't they declassify the files? So, a lot of us
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are real slow to pick up on this. Really slow because it was so shocking. But yo dog, we were on that day one. We covered day by day as it was leaking and dripping out what we got and we got
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massive viewage on those six, seven, eight hour live streams over here on my channel. We was popping off, son. It was a huge uh uh focus for at least one whole week over here. We was all on it.
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Began to become clear that hidden architecture began to surface at this moment. This is during a cabinet meeting last summer. Watch.
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So, could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jail house tape on the night of Yeah, sure. If I could I just interrupt a second?
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Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.
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And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time on it? Do you feel like answering?
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I I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems uh like
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a desecration. Yeah, it's a desecration. And what was happening in Texas last summer, can't even remember. Um, of course. But what's interesting is that no one in the meeting said, "Hey, don't talk like that. I don't care. You're the
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president. Don't patronize people. Like, don't you dare speak to me that way. You're you're getting high-handed with me because I asked a legitimate question about crimes that were committed and you're not revealing what those were or who committed him. And by the way, it's
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not about Epstein because he's dead. And by the way, were you aware that he was murdered in federal lockup during your administration with the knowledge of your attorney general?" Like, answer some questions there. No one's ever even asked that. But how dare you whip around
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and try and make me feel guilty for asking a question about a justice system that we own that you administer at our request with our permission and our votes. Like, how dare you shut up, old man, and answer the question. Probably
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the best files. Epstein files are going to be epic. Probably the best files we've ever seen. They're going to be.exe on the motherboard. Whatever. Whatever the tech bros are gonna it's probably gonna be the best files we ever released
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probably [snorts] full to Trump even if you voted against him even if you've come to despise Trump even if you feel correctly that he sold you out for a foreign country which he did and there's no forgiving that of
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course there's forgiving it but there's no approving of it there's always forgiving but there is not approving you can't approve that is immoral It's wrong for a leader to choose another country over you. Just like it would be wrong
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for a kid to take the neighbors kids to Disney World where only way out of this is for everybody to choose loyalty to one country, the imperial nation state of Wiganthium located in North Wagartha.
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Hello. It's only a solution. His own kids starved. That's just that's immoral. That's exactly what Trump did.
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He chose Israel over the United States. People lie about it, but everyone can see it. super super obvious and that's just wrong.
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The good news is as noted everybody can see it and that is in the end the lasting contribution of Donald Trump 20 years from now we're still trying to figure out what was that? How'd that guy get to be president and how should we
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feel about it? I think we're going to have to be honest enough to admit that we should be thankful for the main thing he did for us which is to reveal the subterranean architecture of power. Ah, there we go.
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Everything we've been talking about on my channel in this sphere for so long, years and years and years and years of discussing the power behind the throne, of discussing the MIC, the FIC, the TIC, to use Simon's acronyms.
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Here we are. Now we have all seen with Jeffrey Epstein who was ataché legate for the Rothschilds and David Rockefeller who has been talking to you about the banking and the industrial alliance of the oligarchical families for 15 plus
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years on the internet. your boy Ryan. This is how the world is actually run.
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It's not run by the presidents. It's not run by Angela Merkel and Gordon Brown and freaking [ __ ] McFagerson or whoever else gets elected or whatever. That's not who runs [ __ ] dude. Do you think a dude who is a
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whoring himself out to the political lobby class has more power than a freaking zillionaire? Duh. Trump by his presence, by design or not, it almost doesn't matter pulled back the curtain and suddenly we could see how the system
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actually works. Yes. Exactly. And it's been horrifying and it is the Yeah. Exactly. That's why we lectured on tragedy and hope all 1300 pages 10 years ago and an entire lecture was on the Rothschilds. So what are you talking
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about? You don't talk about that. Yes, I do. I've always talked about all the things. I knew about all the things when you were still pooping in your diaper because I learned all this in the 2000s.
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You just didn't listen. Scroll down, dog. Look at that. It's still there right there.
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Look at all of that right there. The whole playlist is still available for you. Geopolitics 101.
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[snorts] No one else has lectured through all 1300 pages of this Goober book. And I say goober because it's a nightmare.
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I marshaled all of my spur powers to read this entire 1300 page book for you dorks.
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And did I get your thanks? No. For a decade, you called me all the names in the book. You called me Tempful Hat and you called me whatever else you call me.
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And only now, as we are vindicated, going on the biggest podcast in the world, do we actually finally seize our vindication and lord it over you and flaunt that [ __ ] in your face, [ __ ] I'm having fun. Don't worry. Don't be so
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serious. Main reason that you often hear people say, "All the conspiracy theorists are right." How many times have you heard that? It's a meme.
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Well, it's a meme because there's some truth in it. I just went full Ric Flair on your ass, [ __ ] Who was right?
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We got I was right the whole time about all of it. All of it. 95% right.
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Yeah, baby. That's why we lecture through the raw child's biographies because ain't nobody else doing it.
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Dude, we are. Most people, especially over 40, grew up in a country where the overwhelming majority of the population accepted that the official account of things was probably roughly cor. That is the Boomer Cathedral legacy. The boomers were trained
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in accepting and worshiping authority figures. That was part of their SCOP for their generation by design. We've covered it a zillion times, the books even.
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They were taught with a boomer news daddy on the news, a Tom Broco and Walter Kronite.
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Walter Kunkite sitting there with authority talking at you on your dinner TV screen when you're a four-year-old the news blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right that's part of the social engineering that's Tavistock dreamed up the admin
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dreamed up all this [ __ ] Don Draper literally dreamed up all this [ __ ] dog and it worked so the boomers worshiped authority figures they worshiped the doctor. They worship the bankman. They worship the president, the politician.
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You worship them. Except for the counterculture boomers in the 60s who having their fake revolution steered into degeneracy thought that the way to fight the system was to get [ __ ] high as hell, man.
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Just trip out on LSD, dude, and solve the universe, bro. So they took the actual discontent. What did we talk about on yesterday's stream?
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Containment steer you into dumb [ __ ] to stupid fake revolution. Fake rebellion. Containment.
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Green black. Containment steer you into stupid ass weather underground. Bill Ays establishment communism. Fake revolution, fake rebellion, gangs and counter gangs.
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That's why boomers can't go beyond a certain level. A boomer can question JFK. They can talk about faking gay aliens.
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That's the only that's that's all that's that that's it. Boomers can't go beyond that. A little bit of boomers can do Federal Reserve. That's the limit.
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It's freaking fenced off, son. There's a little gremlin that pops up in the boomer mind that saysh thus and no further because it would be too devastating to the paradigm.
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It would mean that they begin to question all the wars that America fights for. It would mean that wait a minute, maybe big nine isn't isn't what we were told.
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Uhoh. You see, can't go any further. Thus and no further. Okay, but first of all, aliens are faking and gay. That's a gay ass fake conspiracy theory. JFK, we know what that is now. Uh, Federal Reserve, we know what that is. Okay, well, that's
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not the only conspiracies. There's others. And now we figured out, oh, the government lies all the time, non-stop.
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Oh, and there's other power groups behind the throne. Yeah, exactly. Wrecked. There was some lying and some secrecy, but the whole system was.
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By the way, the reason conspiracy theorists get salty, the reason we get salty is because not just because we get made fun of and talk [ __ ] at and threat even worse situations. Some people get offed, some
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people get threatened, some people lose their jobs, canceled, all this. It's not just because we were right about something.
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It's also because we talked about solutions and things that would help But the problem is that the awakening that's happening is too late. That's the problem.
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Everybody got funneled into conc for the last decade that accomplished absolutely nothing except to back up the Israeli narrative.
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Ben Shapiro and all those goobers. And why did they do this? Because those goobers said, "Anyone talking about conspiracy theories is insane. Don't listen to them." There was a policy allegedly at Daily Wire. Don't go down the conspiracy theory route. Remember
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when Jordan Peterson was there? I'm not going to go into conspiracy theories, you know. No. No. You know, the rabbid avoidance of conspiracy theories. I'm not going to go into conspiracies.
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[laughter] The thing that kept everybody on the con, Inc. plantation was these goobers saying, "Don't go into conspiracy theories." Okay. What's a conspiracy theory?
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Well, you're talking about Middle Eastern people run the world and the banks and the flat earth and the ice wall, right? The same old dumb [ __ ] associating [ __ ] stuff with real stuff, which is like boomer. That's like
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scops 101. And people still fall for it. All look at everybody falling for all the election stuff. They're still falling for it, by the way. They always will.
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because people aren't actually made to figure everything out. That's the point. And based on it, and in the end, if you wanted to make a change, you would just vote. And if enough people voted, the change would happen. And if there's one thing we've
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learned during the last 10 years of Trumpism, it's that that's not true. And we know that because Trump's 2024 coalition was the broadest probably since Nixon, probably in 50 years. And it voted for something very, very specific. And it
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got the opposite. And so that tells us everything. And now everybody's going to think, well, we need the socialists. We need the Marxist. We need the liberal socialist.
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And so they get played like a fiddle, dude. Yo, y'all getting played like a fiddle.
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What I say, what I had said on internets, what I had said. Calling me names is not going to deter me.
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I understand the bigger point you made, but like I said, you definitely say the only point I made.
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You definitely [clears throat] said in passing that they seem more like a political organization. So, do you want to clarify what you meant by that bit?
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You sure? Hamas was funded by Israel to some extent. It's not a controversial statement. It's not a conspiracy theory.
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It's an established fact by the current prime minister. Took money, gave it to Moss.
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I learned that in 2010 or 11. If you talked about that in 2010 or 11, as I did, you would get deplatformed, threatened, shut down, websites canled, blah blah blah, all of that. Like, this is 101, dude. This isn't even new
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information. We're just now figuring out the [ __ ] that the conspiracy people were saying in 2010, in 2002, four, six.
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We're way too late. We're way down the rabbit hole, dude. We're way down the toilet bowl, dog. We should We had to We should have figured this [ __ ] out 20 30 after Big Nine. We should have figured this [ __ ] out after
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Big Nine. Then perhaps things could have I don't know. But the masses are so slow to figure [ __ ] out, dude. Normies, they like boomers, your relatives, they can't figure this [ __ ] out until 15, 20 years
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later. Too late. I I meant what I said, which is they are either I'm not questioning whether they've committed violence. They have. I'm opposed to that. I'm opposed to all violence.
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Period. And I'm opposed to Hamas violence. I'm opposed to killing people. The question is if you are telling me that they are inspired to kill because of their religious ideology, that is a different thing from people who are
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inspired to kill by their political ideology. Because if it's political, you can imagine an alliance with Christians.
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If it is a religious motivation, it is impossible to imagine, as I said in that clip, Christian accompllices. There weren't a lot of Christians supporting al-Qaeda because al-Qaeda was explicitly anti-Christian. So was ISIS. Fatah, which was again a radical or
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violence-prone Palestinian political organization, had Christian support. So which is it? That's again, this was all in Victor Ostrosky's books 30 years ago, 25 years ago. None of this stuff is new, dude. It's in books. Problem is, nobody reads books.
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So anyway, props to Tucker for bringing all that up. Um, [clears throat] [snorts] what's the essence of everything I'm yapping about here? I put it in this tweet here. This This is what I was looking for. I just lost it.
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Where's it at? Here we go. The entire modern political farcical landscape is fake and gay and is built on a faulty liberal paradigm. The entire paradigm is literally created by the libtards from two centuries ago. That's what no one can get. That's what melts
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the mind of a boomer. That's what melts the mind of a Matt Walsh or a Con inc person.
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And then what's the infinite midwit response? Every freaking midw in the world immediately responds by saying when you bring this up, "Well, what's the solution then? What's your solution then? How do you fix it? As if it's my
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job to fix the world. Are you a [ __ ] Nobody has the solution. There is no the solution. The world is complex. The world is not made according to a four-year-old's designs.
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And thank you for your brilliant midwittery and saying, "What the solution then?" There is no simple solution because the world isn't a simple place. It's not a place for children. It's not a playground. It's complex.
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You have to spend 20 years figuring out how the world works. Look at these people doing it right here. Yeah. Be cool if you actually just told us what the solution is.
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What's the solution then? How do we fix it then? [screaming] you don't fix it. We're studying how the world really works. Then we are figuring out what's the best practical solution for us as individuals.
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We are not going to create a political party. We need a third party. Look, maybe Tucker has enough influence to get together people, but again, we have to understand the entire architecture of where we are is the bad guys home
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court. Tim Gordon is married. Tim has like 10 kids. I am married. Tim is not a butt buddy.
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Tim is a simple bro friend. It's that simple. I've never had a butt buddy and I'm proud to say I never will.
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We are 100% hetero over here, baby. No butt. But but buddy but but no but buddies with me.
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Thank you guys for the super chats. Anyway, so today's point is you're getting accelerationism whether you want it or not. That's the hand that has been dealt to us. Now what do we do with this? What do we do with it? There's not
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a lot of options. Not a lot of options. That's why we got to do a little bit of trimming of the fat around here. We got to cut. No more time for slow boys calling in. Figuring out the one the
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101's. That time has that window has closed. Now it's time for fast boy content. High IQ content. Figuring out how we exit the matrix to get a Bugatti. What's the solution? Getting Bugattis. Double.
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That's the solution. We're gonna figure it out. Francois Spieler five. Is that a real name? Frantois Spieler, a French German.
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All the pragmatic solutions that could have happened widespread have actually gone. Now Fabian socialism will begin swallowing everything in the next 15 to 20 years.
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Probably. Probably. So, let's listen to Simon talk about the actual structure of what's the real locus of power. That's why this matters.
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We're doing elite theory here to understand the actual governance that the actual elite have, not the goober politicians that all the dum dums are the puppet show that the dum dums are watching.
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The real power players, the bankers, the technocrats, the military-industrial complex, the social engineers, the real power players.
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James says $20. Jay, here's some fiat. I'm going tell you right now, all fiat, unless it's paying a bill, it's immediately converted into the orange over here.
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I'm not telling you what to do. I can't tell you what to do. I'm tell you what I do and it has worked well for the last [music] 10 years.
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But you got to do you, dog. Um, okay. I think that's everything I want to talk about on Twitter. Now I want to talk about Simon's discussion of the three the real three branches of government. There you go.
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It's not legislative, executive, judicial. No, no. The real three branches of the real government is MIC, TIC FIC and OP. [laughter] And it took a man coming out of that also had the the financial domain who understands all this insane onion levels of
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corruption. That's also I think and we're going to find this out when he comes on next week because he's been reading about Gladadio that that same onion layers of corruption the way that Gladadio was structured is a a mirror.
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It's a microcosm of the whole real power structure of how its onion layers of corruption are actually constructed.
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Now, he did really good on this podcast. I was impressed. I think we left off last time where he was talking about fractional reserve banking. We all know what that is now on this channel. If you don't know, too
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bad. Uh, you can go watch the Quigly lectures. We are no longer stopping for slow boys. We on the fast bus. If you a shel bus shorty, you can go catch the slow bus in the archives.
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We're we're we're dropping all the short bus shorties off at the bus stop. We're dropping you off at the uh Bipok Indigenous Learning Center because we are now on the Keano Reeves fast bus.
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If you catch my drift, if you catch my analogies. Whoa. I just blew your mind with that analogy right there. All right, Simon, tell us about how the world really works.
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All money is debt where there's not enough interest to pay down the debt. So, if you look at the economy today, the government has $40 trillion of debt, right?
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And it has to pay a trillion dollars of interest. Or the US government, sorry, uh the US government has $40 trillion debt and it has to pay approximately 1.2 trillion by the end of this year. A year.
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1.2 trillion. Yeah. That yield doesn't exist. A year. Yes. that that money does not exist.
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That money does not exist. So it has to be borrowed by either an individual that takes out a mortgage, a business that maybe takes out some bonds or borrows against their their stock.
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Remember Spangler talked about homoeconomicus. Modern man is individual economic unit man. Everything is seen through the lens of economics. If you don't understand the basics of economics, you cannot understand the modern world at all.
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Now, I know guys, I understand economics is boring as f. It's freaking super boring, dude. However, when you actually understand spy craft, state craft, geopolitics, espionage, etc., now it begins to be interesting because you see it's all connected. I don't mean in skitso dude
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way, Charlie Day skitso way. I mean in the real way, it's actually is all connected. The wars actually are fought for bankers. Absolutely. The wars actually are fought for monetary gain.
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They're not fought for the story that the Goober public is taught in the Spielberg uh movies. Like what's the what's that stupid Tom Hanks movie?
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You know, like Ben Affleck, Pearl Harbor type [ __ ] which came out right at the time of Big Nine, by the way. Mhm.
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What's that Tom Hanks Spielberg movie? I don't remember the name of it. That's some high tier propaganda though.
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What was that one? I don't like Tom Hanks and Tom Hanks movies. That's why there's like a mental block for me like Saving Private Ryan.
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Saving Ryan's privates, right? That's the That's the real ver that's the updated American version today. I forgot to show you this. Did you see what the government websites are bragging today?
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This is actually from like this is a real thing. We now have the gayest Congress in history. This is a real tweet from the Equality Caucus, whatever the heck that is.
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This is the gayest Congress of all time. I just forgot my joke. Oh, that's why it's saving private. Saving Ryan's privates.
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[laughter] You thought you were You thought Turner and Hooch. No. No. You thought you was going to get Turner and Cooch. You got Saving Ryan's privates.
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That's where That's what you got, dude. You got Tom Hank. You got the Tom Hank treatment. bait and switch their company or the government takes it on but someone has to you thought now you got forest hump dude.
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You thought you had a simple boy. A nice innocent simple boy. No, dude. You turned around and there was Forest Hump behind you just going at it. You got Forest Humped.
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I like that a lot. I like that a lot. because it is by definition a Ponzi scheme.
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So the government I like your butt a lot. I I like them cheeks a lot.
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Has to borrow the trillion dollars that they owe in interest. They have to roll over the debt. Uh they're not collecting that through taxes. Like taxes is just a a mechanism for trying to control prices. The the the budget the government is not funded
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by taxes. The government is funded by debt. And so the government then has to repay more.
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You got Tom spanked. You had Forest Hump back there. I like the cheeks a lot and he was just spanking them cheeks. You got Tom spanked more. Now you understand the history of empires.
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Remember we talked about this three- tiered structure. Yeah. You have a central bank that guarantees the system.
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You have a stock market that effectively privatizes all gains from these economic activities. You know, when they go out and they create activities, they create new value. When it comes to the You thought you had cast away, you got
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casting couch away. [laughter] [ __ ] Now we just got to do a Let's [snorts] just go on a side quest of Tom Hanks's gay ass movies.
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What was that movie he was in? Little where he's a grown-up man as a little boy. Gay as hell, dude. Already. Look at that. Terminal. More like terminal illness.
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Uh green m the gay smile. Casting Couch Away, Forest Hump. What's the more gay gay movies of Tom Tom Spanks? Tom Spanx Band of Gay Brothers. Boy Band Boy Band of Brothers. [laughter] This is getting fun now.
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Uh Pacific Rim job. I don't even What are I don't even know Tom Hanks movies. What is he even in?
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Dude, I'm watching Tom Hanks movies. Tom Hanks movies. Da Vinci Code. That's already gay as hell. That's just just calling it that.
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You don't even have to change the name. Da Vinci Code itself is freaking gay.
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Mason stuff. Um, sleepless in Seattle. Uh, sleep sleeping with Seattle. How's that? Sleeping with Seattle. Big uh you go all you go crazy with that one, dude. He was in he was in Philadelphia.
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We don't even have to change the names. He was in a damn movie about a damn gay dude taking over, a damn AIDS takeover.
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Uh, there's so many of these. Bachelor Party already gay. Hell, half of his movies already have a gay name.
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Road to Road to Penetration. Road to Predition. Sex Toy Story. [laughter] Beautiful gay in the neighborhood.
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Look at this. This too easy, dude. This audience is already uh y'all already coming up with it. Sex, Toy Story, Forest Hump. What else? All these stupid ass Tom Hanks movies.
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Castaway Couch. [snorts] What do you do with Big? I don't even know what you do with that. Big Big Wenus. What do you do with Big? I don't know.
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a League of Their Own. [laughter] Half of his movies already damn gay [ __ ] dude. Inferno. Dante's Inferno.
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Catch me if you can. Pitching and catching gay [ __ ] again. Look at that.
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All right, that's enough of that. Dude, Apollo 13 is one of the worst moves I've ever seen, man. That's like the most boring, horrible movie of all time. You can't I guarantee you if you try to go watch that, you wouldn't even be be able
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to finish it. Let's get back to this stock market. But who borrows the money?
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Well, initially people. So, in order to create money, you need to take on a mortgage, student loan, credit card, debt.
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So, you max out individuals as far as you can with debt. Uh then you start to look at businesses. So, businesses can take their stock and they can borrow against it. They can have these corporate bonds. They can have large
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massive loans. Uh but if the whole thing collapses, you have to dump the debt on the government.
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Mhm. And so what the central bank does is it its mechanism is to be the guarantor of all of these banks. And what what does a guarantor of all of these banks mean? It it means that they pass the losses on to
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you. Privatize the gains, socialize the losses. That was the entire bailout scam. That's what caused in part that and the housing bubble scam popping.
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It's all scams within scams. It's onion layers, onion rings of scams. So when all that pops, they pass all of that debt onto the goober taxpayers. That's why taxes are a giant scam is because we're actually just paying into an
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infinity black hole of interest. Not the actual debt, just paying the interest. That's why it can't it can't even be paid back.
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And that's why the beginning genesis block of Bitcoin talks about the housing bubble that it was created because of this because of banker bailouts.
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No, that was a conspiracy because it was the bankers tricking you. No, dude. They're not infallible.
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They're not Dude, the freaking boomer bankers don't even understand this [ __ ] It took him 20 years to figure it out.
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Jamie Diamond said for 15 years Bitcoin is garbage and now he's flipped his Oh, no.
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Actually, it's good now. We like it because he's forced to. Means that you socialize the losses. Any losses are socialized across the population through government debt.
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You, every American has your share of the national debt that So, we all have all the people have to pay it back.
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They all have to pay it. And because what are you doing every time these loans happen? It creates new money. When it creates new money, it means the price of everything goes up, which is commonly known as inflation,
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right? So, everybody pays it through higher prices. There you go. That's why it's such a giant ripoff scam.
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Go watch the Jesus and whatnot debate. Why? Why would anybody even listen to this dude debating? He doesn't know anything. Why are we listening to like 22-year-old dudes like about anything?
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What What does a 22-year-old have to tell me or teach me at all about anything? like no life experience, hasn't even had time to read any of like 1/8 of the books that I've read. I mean, what are you talking about?
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So, we are providing the social welfare for the government. You are. Yes. And now, when you ask, is America a capitalist country?
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Mhm. The answer is if it had a hard monetary system and by a hard monetary system there is you know it's hard money it's all gold or whatever it may be as it was historically but if it's a debt based Ponzi scheme
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where there's not enough money to pay the interest and you have to roll over the debt to continue. Um then what happens is you have a central bank and what does that central bank do? It socializes losses, burdens the
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government with all the debt, rolls it over for as long as the government can do it and it privatizes all the gains into the stock market.
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Boom. That's that's how this system works. How many of the con inc people tell you this?
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I've never heard a con in person even get within a mile of this point.
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This is gold right here. You're learning right here. This is real [ __ ] Um and that is the I don't give a [ __ ] if you like Simon Dixs or not. This is true.
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System of central banking. The banks create the money. The central banks guarantee the system. They rinse as much debt on the government as they can and then that money is spent into stocks and it goes the stock market goes up and up
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and up and so does and so does inflation and so do interest rates. So this is why the there's the appearance of right the stock market is exploding. The stocks are going up. This is why, right? And it's essentially a self funding, self
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[snorts] eating, it's an oral boros eating its tail because what's pumped in is literally just a bunch of like fiat created money.
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More and more money you pump and what is money? Money is debt. The more and more money you pump into the economy and the only way to pump money into the economy is for you to take on more credit cards,
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more mortgages, more student loans, more debt business. That's why I keep saying that the whole system is a debt-based economy. It's a giant black hole. Max Kaiser said this 15, 20 years ago. It's a giant Ponzi.
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The whole economy is a Ponzi scheme. I see plans within plans. I see scams within scams to take on more or to take on more. The more they take on, the higher prices get. Um, and so the prices of things go
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up and the prices of assets go up. And your job in running an empire is to play that merrygoround for as long as you can.
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Oh my god. And so what did the Bank of England do? Yeah. I if I if Simon is pro-Islam, I disagree with that.
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I'm not agreeing with everything that they're saying. This is why you have to look, we read Carol Quigley and we learn a ton of [ __ ] I don't I can't stand Carol Quigley, but he's given you a
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window into it. So, no, I don't have to agree with academic agent on every point. I don't have to agree with Simon Dixon on every single point. I don't agree with Tucker on every point, but I learn from intelligent people. So moral,
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go moral [ __ ] elsewhere, dude. The Bank of England created well, we had the Dutch, but the D the the Brits copied it from the Dutch. The Dutch were the inventors.
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Mhm. The Dutch said, "Let's create a stock called the Dutch East India Company." The Dutch East India Company was the way of privatizing all the profits from colonial.
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This is why we talk so much about the British East India Company, right? It was the same model as the the Dutch they were just first Dutch East extended company. Then the British Eastendia Company is a model of that. It's the
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same model and more for the Dutch. They invented the largest naval fleet in the world. Uh they were able to go and invade other countries. Uh they had superior ship technology. Um and they were able to just go steal people's gold resources, a
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private company. Um and they were able to just steal everyone's gold, all their resources, engage in the transatlantic slave trade, whatever they needed to do.
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So a lot of these guys They don't know. Like I didn't know, right? So before I started debating the Muslims 10 years ago, I didn't like Islam, but I didn't think much about it. I thought, "Oh, well, Big
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Nine made Muslims the Psis. So Islam must just be this sort of problem thing for the system." But I didn't know what Islam taught. I had not read the Quran or gone deep into it. I just knew sort of like very
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general basic stuff about well Muslims don't believe in the deity of Christ, the Trinity, etc. I never owned a I didn't look inside the Quran and study it in depth.
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And I guarantee you, look, not everybody who's intelligent has had the time to study all of these things. Like it probably took Simon Dixon his adult life figuring out the architecture of the scam economy that is the global debt
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based system. So of course he's not going to figure out or know that Islam itself is also talmudically based, right? It takes time to figure this stuff out.
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So, I'm going to a person like Simon who doesn't know as much about the religious theology sphere or the philosophy sphere. I'm going to learn from him and perhaps I mean Simon has been talking about a lot of stuff that we
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talk about. I don't know if he listens to what we talk about. Seems like a lot of what he's talking about is stuff we've talked about maybe. So hey, learn from the people that you disagree with um you know under this structure and
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then but where do you get the money from? Obviously the banks get to create it but once the banks once those loans once everyone wants their money you just dump it on the government.
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Wow. And so the government debt goes up and up and up and so the the the Dutch government's debt went up and up and up.
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The stock market goes up and up and up. um those that can print the money, the banks, they're able to get these assets with money they create out of thin air.
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Everyone else and then and then inflation and interest rates also rise with it. Yeah. Now look at this wealth transfer.
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This really helps us hopefully understand today. This is really important. This is the best I mean probably a lot of it is good but this is the best part so far. I've heard about half of this but this is the best part so far.
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What's the wealth transfer? If you own the assets, what historically happens is the value of your assets go up faster than the price of goods. So, everyone else is paying higher higher higher higher prices.
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But these people are protected because let's say prices of um you know just general goods are going up 4%. And prices of stocks are going up 8%.
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They're getting 4% wealthier every year. These people don't own any assets but they're paying 4% more.
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And so slowly they're getting the prices is going up. So in other words, you're being stolen from. The wealth transfer is to the elite class through the ownership of assets, property, businesses stocks Bitcoin gold.
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Whereas you own nothing and you are constantly paying and trying to climb up a ladder that is like going down. Like you're trying to climb out of the water and the ladder keeps just going down into the water, right?
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But it's by design. This system is an intricate architecture that's by design. In fact, in the Brazilian car wash scandal, which is why this is so close to Gladio, there was a PhD criminal mastermind who organized the architecture
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of the criminal control of the government of Brazil in the car wash scandal. [clears throat] There are actual PhD criminal masterminds that actually exist and they design the architecture of these types of control mechanisms from behind the scenes. In fact, nowadays
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there's probably advanced AI that's better than the criminal masterminds of 20, 30 years ago.
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Have you even heard anyone talk about this? I've never even heard anybody talk about this except one guy I knew who had at dinner with who went and was involved in the legality, the legal process investigating and consulting on the
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Brazilian car wash scandal. And he said there was a guy who was basically a criminal mastermind, had the equivalent of a PhD in crime, organized crime, and they called [clears throat] him the Sicilian.
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That was his code name for like the FBI and CIA analysis of this structure.
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When you read about Gladadio in depth, you'll notice that same pattern and structure of running the organized crime compromise scandal system in the background that's actually running the Italian government.
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Some analysts argue that it was in fact Kissinger that was the mastermind of all of that. Pro seems very likely to me because only up at the level of a Kissinger and a Bzinski do you have the people who understand
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what I'm telling you now. And I know that because I've read them. They're supplementing more and more of it with debt. They don't own any assets to and we also get tax on that little margin as well, right?
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Oh, and then you need to pay the tax. Um, and let's not also forget that.
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Yeah. So, uh, the Paraguay bank collapse, everybody's talking about that today. That's another example of what Bitcoin exists for. You can have gold, too. I think Bitcoin's better, but you can have I mean, gold would work to to
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not be involved in a giant central bank collapse. But it's harder for the system to go after and destroy individual owners of Bitcoin than it is the fiat system, obviously.
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And I would argue that it's harder to go after Bitcoin than it is to go after gold. So anyway, um we aren't doing we're no we're no longer stopping for the slow boys to explain Bitcoin. We're not doing that anymore. If you haven't
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figured it out, you missed the bus. Short bus shorty. Um, we'll get into again. Larry Frink created a a product which is very, very interesting, which is basically the banks were creating all these mortgages and then the bank said, "But
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we don't want to take the risk on. What are we going to do? We're going to package all those mortgages up.
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This is the housing collapse. This is what we're this is what led to Bitcoin.
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Sell them to your pension." So, Black Rockck, Larry Fink, created what's called a mortgage back security that says, "You go create as many mortgages as you as you can and then give them over to me and then I'll take pensioners
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money and we'll buy them." And so, the pensioner was on the hook for all the mortgages, right? And uh and so, not only are you paying the tax to cover some of the interest, um uh there was a Serbian bank that
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collapsed too, right? So, there've been like a [clears throat] maybe another one. There have been two or three banks that collapsed the past couple days and uh the banks just shut down and there's no money. Like sorry.
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Yeah, you had all your life savings and your pension. Uh it doesn't exist anymore. Sorry.
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You're also taking on the debt so you are the product and you're contributing every month to your pension which gives Black Rockck more power and then they're dumping all the risk on you.
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Yeah, exactly. See gold can easily be confiscated, right? Um at least I mean easier than confiscating Bitcoin. Now, if you're a individual holder of Bitcoin, you forgot your seed phrase. I I forgot.
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I was in a What's Max Kaiser's joke? I was in a a boating incident and I I my laptop fell over in the water. I I forgot it. I don't have it anymore. It's It fell in the in Lake uh Lake Como.
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And if you play that game well, then hopefully your assets go up more than the general prices of goods. And so that right now there's a lot of controversy around boomers versus the younger generation right?
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You know, boomers were in that time when they could kind of work. Their wages were they bought their house for $30,000.
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They refused to sell it for a penny less than a million. Great question about the day tapes. Um guys, we did a whole podcast on the day tapes. The day tapes are 100% legit. In fact, they're one of our great
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uh sources that we've cited over the years. You guys need to get more. Let's hopefully they come up though. Sometimes it doesn't come up. Yep, there we go.
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What are your thoughts on the day tapes? Well, bro, you should have googled Jay Dyer day tapes cuz they're right here, dog.
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We did a whole two-part analysis of the day tapes. Um, that's old school conspiracy stuff that was vindicated. I remember hearing about the day tapes I want to say 2012 2011 somewhere in there. But yes, we've done the day tapes
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because they were they were around at the postw World War II era. So what what happens? Well, the Dutch bankrupted the Dutch government, socialized all the money into the Dutch stock market, received all the the yield on the debt. So the government has to
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keep paying to the bond holders. Uh and then the the central bank would guarantee the system. Now eventually what happens here is the wealthy and the average person just go further and further up.
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Yeah, I know. You can you can lose your gold in the lake. I know all that. It's just a lot harder to confiscate a non-physical thing. That's what I'm trying to say part. So those that own the assets go
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further up the ladder. Those that own the debt are the product and they go further down the ladder. Uh and they just get worse and worse and worse.
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That's called the K-shaped economy. That's where we are today. The K-shaped economy. Yeah. So, think of like just a K and you've got the asset [clears throat] owner going up and up and up with their wealth and the average person that
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doesn't own the assets going down and down with their real wealth. Everything's getting more expensive.
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They're taking on more debt. Their wages aren't going up at the same rate as the assets.
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And so, if you can print the money, if you're the bank, you get all the assets.
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Think of imagine. [clears throat] Yeah. So, people who earn money from manual labor, people who do blue collar jobs, people who have to work with their hands to earn income, they're the ones that are going down. And the people who use
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money to make more money are the ones that are going up. You got it.
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Yeah. Yeah. By the way, this is great podcast. Looking forward to the discussion with Simon next week. Doesn't mean we agree on everything. I don't know. Um but who who do you find that you agree with everything on? Hardly anybody. So
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instead of moral fagging and trying to figure out some purity spiraling perfect person, learn from everybody. Gigi says, "For $10, these is my reparations." By the way, perfect example of the stupidity of democracy voting is the Squid Game. Uh, the last person decides
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if everybody is there or if it's a tie. I didn't even think about Squid Game as like an analogy for this the stupid ideas of democracy and voting. That's a great great analogy there. Guys, remember we have a show sponsor,
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review. Okay. Well, we got we got a lot of things we got to get to. Let me get out this old notepad here.
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Start writing down them recommendations that y'all send me. being there. Isn't there like a There's supposed to be this philosophical movie from like the 70s or 80s where the whole movie is just like these weird dinner conversations in a restaurant.
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That one looks interesting, too, but I've never watched that. So, let me write that down. We got a bunch of movies we got to do, and we got to do our anime stuff. We got to do our anime
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streams. We're going to get to that soon. Now, though, we're moving to the Fast Boy content. Enough of this low IQ stuff. Get out of here. Maybe we got more time for this cooler [ __ ] that we're going to be doing.
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Symbolism is out of nowhere at the end of this. It's a bizarre Forest Gump type of movie. I don't actually like Forest.
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I've never liked Forest Gump. I mean, I know it's satire, but even still, I just never liked it. But anyway, moving on.
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The the starring protagonist will be Angela Basset as Jay Dyer or Vanessa William. Francois Spielers Speler Spielers $5. No, he we did that one already.
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can't even deal with birthright citizens. Orthonaut, thank you for that. Herardo Fala, get on the fast bus and move to El Salvador, man. [ __ ] Maybe that is I don't know. Maybe we do need to expatriate to El Salvador.
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Bruce Wilkkey $20. This is a tough pill to swallow that Americans are the bad guys. We kiss the wailing wall, but Putin kisses icons. Who are the real bad guys? Keep it real. We're It's not America that's the bad guys. It's the
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oligarchical elite class that runs the country from behind the throne. That's the real bad guys. Americans are the best people. Watson, $50. You are a wealth of knowledge. Actually, Jay, thank you. If you had a book right now
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that you would recommend apart from the Bible, what would it be? Um, [snorts] that's a tough one, dude. [sighs] I guess it depends on what like do you want a like a theology book, a geopolitics book, a literary book?
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I mean, I'm super into Dune right now. So, Dune 1 is one of my favorite novels of all time. Uh, Lord of the Rings is a classic if you want literature. Geopolitics.
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I don't know, man. That's a tough one. It's hard to pick just one. Go through the Global Elite book series and pick out the one that you think is the most interesting. I don't know. It's a tough question.
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S boy Weber $5. Did you see Ben Michael interviewed Alexander Solden's grandson? No, I did not. That's interesting.
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[sighs] That's interesting. I have to check that out. Johnny Del Romero $10. I went to Father Moses' church. This was before there was any drama. I didn't like that there was a camera and it was recording. There was
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a Q&A and then there was drama. Would you still recommend his church? I mean, you got to figure out what the best Orthodox church is for you given that most people have a lot of limitations for what Orthodox churches exist. But I
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mean, most Orthodox churches film the service. So, I'm not sure what you mean about the camera. You mean the filming the service? I mean, my church does that. So, I don't that doesn't seem like a problem to me. But people just got to
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pick and figure out what the best Orthodox churches are based on, you know, the limited options that most of us have.
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So, don't get too picky. Methodius, $5. Operation Crankhog. Is that a Tom Hanks movie? [laughter] I guess. I don't know what that means, but sounds like sounds like PP type stuff.
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to learn your Wigsantium 101. Dude, the boomer cyberpoke of that time declares war in Wiganthium at Vatican 5.
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instead of an actual war, it's a six-hour Twitter debate, except it would be with the emperor and uh not with the not with the pope, I mean with the patriarch.
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Um, I guess I don't know how that works. Y'all probably just going to try to capitalize on my skill sets. Try to take all my money away.
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Y'all a bunch of Clive Davises. Bunch of diddies in the audience trying to have diddy parties with then steal my musics.
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All right. Watson $50. I'm sorry, dude. I should have been specific. I will read them all. Give me a recommendation for orthodoxy. Um, Pomzansky's Orthodox dogmatics or uh Staneloy's Orthodox dogmatics volume one geopolitics.
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[sighs] Well, if you want to get started on it, um, Anglo-American establishment is an easier entrance than tragedy and hope because tragedy hope is 1300 pages. So, Anglo-American establishment is 300 pages. So that's a classic philosophy.
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Uh I mean if you're new to philosophy then you probably need to get some introduction going. So I would say Fountain of Knowledge by St. John Damascus uh or there's the problem is there's there's not like a philosophy book that's good
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introduction. Uh maybe the WJ Wood books that I recommended in my philosophy course. So the one on uh Epistemology is a good one.
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And then one for fun. Um Dune. Read Dune. I'm on Dune 3. So Dune has been a blast. I love it. Have you read The New Sun? Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolf. No, but somebody told
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me I need to read that. I don't know what that is other than that somebody said it sounded really cool. Book of the new sun.
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Jean Wolf [snorts] Ortholife Fidala. My mom is into conspiracies big time. I'm going to get her Esther Hollywood for Christmas.
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That's a good idea. By the way, guys, the if you got a lot of people in the audience that like what we do, the t-shirts are banger Christmas gifts, bro. Get on over here to dymer merch.store. Uh the link's in the show
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description. We got so many t-shirts now. I mean, we are just the hoodies. I mean, we got we got Wigsantium shirts now popping off. Look at this Wiganthium first. We got Wiganthium first hats. I think dude even made a Wigsantium sock.
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Bro, what the hell? Wiganthium socks. [laughter] Mines put up a Wigsantium sock. This [ __ ] is getting off the hook, dude. It's getting too crazy. I don't even know.
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Look at this. That's pretty sweet, dude. A Wig Xanthium first hat. Come on now. We going to make Nick Fuentes is going to get mad and he sees all this. It's just a joke, dude. It's just a joke. [sighs]
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Uh, we got Look at that for the girls. Got some of them ladies with a wigantium hat.
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Nice. Nice. [snorts] Manius went went crazy with this stuff, dude. He just went crazy.
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I'm you, dude. We got the Boomer shirts. We got the Wine Mom shirts. I mean, he just went buck wild with it, dude. Look at this.
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Wine mom disengaged. [laughter] I like it. I like it. And then you got the Wigsantium Classics, right? It's all over here at dire merch.store.
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All right, guys. Thank you so much. A lot of fun today. You can get of course the books uh always at the website in the shop. Um I know that we I think we're pretty much most orders are kind
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of caught up on. I think we got about 20 left to be fully caught up, but you can always get them. Sometimes they're backorded. I do have to order. I'm out of red books right now. So, the reason
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this takes so long, people always fuss about this. It's really just the red books. When you order the red books, it basically takes at least two weeks for them to get here.
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Sometimes it takes longer. Even if I do the fast shipping, which is expensive as hell, it cuts into all the profits. Like the fast shipping, it still takes two weeks. So, it's almost like there's no point even doing the fast shipping. So,
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but yes, you can always get it. Now, every time I do this, people say, "Can I get them signed?" Yes, guys. The whole purpose of having a website to sell the books is because they're signed.
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Otherwise, when you buy from I don't get n if you buy from Jeff Bezos, I don't get none. So, it don't help me. None.
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Jeff Bezos ain't helping me out none. I know that's a surprise because we I thought we was bros but we're not.
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Apparently he don't like me. So yes, everything from the website is sign. You don't have to request it unless you want me to assign it to your to your brother or your cousin.
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Otherwise, great show tonight. Thank you so much. It was a banger. We had a lot of fun. Hit like, hit share, hit subscribe. Go support this.
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