Dr. K explores why people get stuck, the psychology of motivation, and how understanding oneself is key to success and overcoming mental blocks.
Key Takeaways
- Belief in possibility is essential to overcoming stagnation.
- Problems should be dissolved by uncovering their true nature, not just solved superficially.
- Motivation stems from wanting, and absence of want leads to feeling stuck.
- Self-understanding is the foundation for all meaningful change.
- Difficulty is subjective and based on perception and response, not objective task size.
What the video covers
- People stay stuck because they believe their goals are impossible to achieve.
- Difficulty arises from one’s response to the world, not the external world itself.
- Dr. K helps people dissolve problems by identifying the real underlying issues rather than just providing solutions.
- Many people who appear stuck are actually holding on to attachments that prevent progress.
- Wanting and believing in the possibility of achieving goals are fundamental to moving forward.
- Stuckness can be an intentional burying of motivation to avoid failure or disappointment.
- Understanding oneself deeply is the first and most crucial step toward change and success.
- Eastern contemplative traditions emphasize that understanding alone is sufficient and necessary for change.
- The difference between hard and easy tasks lies in understanding, not the size of the task.
- Building a healthy relationship with wanting and motivation is essential for personal growth.
Chapters
- 00:00Why People Stay Stuck and the Role of Belief
- 01:43Dissolving Problems vs. Finding Solutions
- 03:22Attachment and Holding On as Causes of Stuckness
- 04:56Motivation, Wanting, and the Psychology of Depression
- 06:35Understanding as the First Step to Change
- 08:08Hard vs. Easy: The Role of Understanding
- 09:30Applying Self-Knowledge to Business and Life
- 11:23Ego, Science, and the Mind’s Role in Change
- 14:07Therapy, Gut Health, and Holistic Approaches
- 23:14Testing Solutions and Avoiding Mental Distractions
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Why do people stay stuck? Because they believe it isn't possible. Ninety percent of people that I've worked with are [ __ ] losers. What is it that allows them to move forward? They believe that what they want is possible. Difficulty is not
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created by the world. Difficulty is created by your response to the world. My guest is Dr. K, a Harvard-trained psychiatrist who is breaking down the most common psychology myths behind success and failure and then how to build a feedback loop that improves you
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instead of eating you alive. The difference between hard and easy is not the size of the task. It has to do with your understanding of the thing. If I take some dude off the street and I'm like, "Can you make a million-dollar
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business in a year?" They would say, "No." So, where do you start if you want to start achieving the things that you want out of life? So, so many people feel like they're stuck, like they can't move past some sort of
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mental block. They're struggling in their lives in some way. And even if you're a winner, you go through these moments. So I guess my question that I want to start with is like one, do you see a lot of people who are stuck today?
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Yes. And two, what do you tell them? So I think the number one problem that I see just on the internet today is everyone is asking how to fix problems.
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Whereas what they should be asking is what is the actual problem? So if you ask me like how do you help someone who's stuck? I don't know. You, uh, I guess you get behind their car and you start pushing. That'll, that'll help them
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if they're stuck, right? Isn't that the solution? If they're stuck, if they're like in a wheelchair and they're trying to get up stairs, like you wheel them over to the elevator or is it, are they psychologically stuck? Are they stuck
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with alcohol? So, right now, what's going on, and this is an effect of kind of how the internet is morphing where we're morphing to 60-second segments where there's no room for diagnosis. Mhm.
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So a lot of the work that I do, and this is hard to describe, is I don't help people find solutions. I help people dissolve problems.
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Because even your problem is not exactly what you think it is. And most of what we do, if we talk about like kind of the work that I do is just like enabling people, it's like helping people understand what the problem is.
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If you are unable to fix your problems, you're trying to solve the wrong problem. And one of the crazy things I'll just give you an example is I would say 50% of people that I work with that are stuck aren't stuck. They're holding
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on. They're attached to something in their life. Simple example is let's take addiction. So I did a bunch of addiction psychiatry many years ago. And, um, you know, like if you think about why is someone addicted to alcohol, it's not
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because alcohol is a problem. It's because alcohol is a solution. What are you staying attached to that is preventing you from moving forward? M so then what do you do? So if you figure out, okay, you're not stuck, you're holding
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on, you're choosing to hold on, then what's the next question? So I think that depends on so I'm a clinician, right, first and foremost, so I work with individuals with individual problems and so we can still generalize certain principles. So I'll give you
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like an example. So I've worked with a couple of billionaires but 90% of people that I've worked with are what would be described as [ __ ] losers. Mhm.
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So someone who's 26 years old, lives in mom's basement, doesn't do their own laundry, doesn't cook for themselves, jerks off all day. Like this is the people that I work with. And there is like literally millions if not hundreds
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of millions or billions of young men who like no one is even bothering to help.
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No one is even aware of. So that's what I, that's what I set out to do. So I'm going to tell you a story about one of these people.
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So I, I have a friend, for example, who's stuck and his basic problem is that he doesn't allow himself to want.
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Wanting is the basic thing that gets us to move forward. Okay. But if you don't believe you can get what you want and I see this with like founders and people who are super successful as well.
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They are really good at like, oh yeah, like I can build a a billion-dollar company, but I can't get my kids to love and respect me.
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So then if, if you if there is a problem in your life that you don't think that you can solve, what your mind will do is [ __ ] bury it.
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And so what feels like stuckness is actually an intentional burying of your motivational circuitry.
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Because if I don't want anything then I can never fail. If I don't want anything then I don't have to try. If I don't want anything and this is the most crippling thing if you think about like the most crippling source of suffering
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for a human being it is to want something that they cannot have. This is something that human beings try to avoid at all costs. So stuck is absence of want. Why do we have an absence of want?
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Because we believe that we cannot achieve it. When people want something and they believe it's possible, they will move towards it.
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Okay? And there are even studies on things like mice that are depressed that you can drop a mouse in a bucket that has one like subsurface place that they can stand on, bucket of water. And so they'll swim around and they find the
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panel. Then what happens is you take out the panel so there's nowhere for the mouse to sit and you drop it in a bucket and it swims around. It can't find anything and eventually it's going to run out of
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energy and drown. So a depressed mouse is one that gives up trying to find the panel faster.
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So when we believe something is not possible, we stop trying. Okay. So this is what's really, this is forget about whether it's really possible or not possible. What we're talking about here is motivation. We're talking about what gets people unstuck. That has
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nothing to do with outcomes. That has to do with are you moving from zero steps to one step.
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So my goal is to teach people a healthy relationship with wanting. Mhm. Right. So like my mission, I spent years studying to become a monk and then, you know, became a psychiatrist and all that stuff and did neuroscience research
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and my hypothesis or my thesis is that if you understand and can master the most basic instrument that you have, which is yourself, then everything in life becomes easy.
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That the difficulty is not created by the world. Difficulty is created by your response to the world.
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So where do you start? Like if you want to start achieving the things that you want out of life, where's the first place you tell people to go to start figuring out themselves?
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So step one is not go, step one is understand. And the really scary thing is if you look at like some of these Eastern contemplative traditions, they make a bold claim which I, I'm, I think is correct, which I've been dragged to
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kicking and screaming. I've tried to argue against it and I think I'm just wrong, which is that you don't need to do anything.
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All you need to do is understand. And that understanding is actually not only sufficient for change, but is the only thing that is necessary for change, which I know is like a crazy idea because we're all about motivation and
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doing, but like what I realized recently is what is the difference between something that is hard? So, if I asked you, Cody, let's say we start you starting from scratch. We wipe out all your net worth, wipe out all your social connections.
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Can you make a million-dollar business within how long would it take you to make a million-dollar business? I think I could do it in a year.
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Okay. So, is that hard for you? I would say it's not easy, but it's simple. There's a straightforward path to it.
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Right. Right. So, if I take some dude off the street and I'm like, "Can you make a million-dollar business in a year?" They would say, "No." Yeah.
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So, what is the difference? And it's a beautiful nuance that you added. It's simple.
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You're not And now what you're do
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Yeah. And so, this is the key thing. The difference between hard and easy is not the size of the task. Mhm.
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is has nothing to do with effort. It has to do with your understanding of the thing.
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Yeah. It's so interesting because you the way you talk about mental health is really simple to how we talk about businesses. My thesis that drives me insane is actually similar to yours in some way, which is that most business
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advice is only applicable to that business person. Completely agree 100%. I go listen to how Elon Musk runs his business. I think pretty highly of myself. I don't think that highly of myself. I can't go replicate what Elon
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does. So, you could give me Elon's entire playbook and I still won't make it. But if I have an understanding of who I am, then I can actually apply who I am, what are my skill sets to what I
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want, and then finally come up with a strategy that pairs those two things. So, it's interesting in our thing, we always say like first you diagnose the you, then you diagnose the want, which would be like, do you want a lifestyle
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business? Do you want a scale business, do you want an exit business? Do you use the word diagnose?
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We do. Yeah. I I will prove it to you. I have it like on 47 D uh 47 powerpoints.
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And then once you understand those two things, you can have a strategy that's like maybe there's similarity in your world. But I think in business there's like 12 core profit centers in every business, but you don't know which ones
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you should play with until you know who you are, what you want, and then you can apply it to just about any business.
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Super interesting. Yeah. So, so I and I I think this is this is what's hard to explain to people is like because everyone is looking for an answer to their problems, but what I what we try to do and like
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it's an interesting we have a membership thing that we started a couple of years ago because I hated that what I wanted to teach was being dictated by the YouTube algorithm and what people will click on is not the
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same as what will be helpful to them. Yeah. So I had a fundamental problem and I was like YouTube is great and you can teach people a lot on YouTube but there's like deeper stuff that is like how do you understand yourself
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and so then I started that and it's been awesome right but the thing is what's your philosophy how do you start to understand yourself like do you have frameworks that you Yeah so so I think it depends so this is
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where we start with what the problem is so like I'll give you like a kind of a simple example which I I think is is maybe relevant to your audience which is like you know I think you're you're you
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kind of talk a lot about how you should own your business your business should not own you right so like inside every one of us is what I would call a yearning this is at the surface level you have
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like your thoughts and your emotions and perceptions we'll get to that and then beneath that you have your ego beneath that you have some weird deep cycle psychological stuff and beneath that you have like what I would call a
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yearning or like a calling. So it's not ego, it's not like psychological trauma. There are layers of that but at the bottom is like something weird and spiritual. So I call it also dharma, duty. There's karma involved, karma. We
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can talk about all those I think those things are absolutely scientific. And so what starts to happen is you get into the business for some reason.
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So I I want to help people and then I see oh this person is doing it and this person is doing it this way and this person is doing it this way. And so then what I start to do is I move away from
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myself towards those things. And this is really an important distinction. It's not that you shouldn't learn from other people but that learning should center back into you and serve your mission instead of you chasing after and trying to duplicate what someone else does.
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Because the moment that you try to duplicate what someone else does, you said it beautifully. I'm going to use different term. You have your own karma.
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You have your own set of advantages, your own set of disadvantages. You have your own the way your dopamineergic circuitry is wired, what you get addicted to, what your social support system is, what your capital is. You cannot duplicate the success of anyone
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else. And this is why it's so interesting. You have so many brilliant people giving advice about how to live life and we have the [ __ ] people are [ __ ] right, left and center.
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It's so true. And the question is why? Yeah. And that's because you can't duplicate the solution that someone else has. The best chance you've got and I'm methodologically this is sound, outcomes wise, scientifically this is sound. We can get into the research. You have to
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play from your position. Right? So you can look at somebody else who wins a hand of poker with a royal flush, but if you've got like a 37 of hearts, it's not that you can't win, but the fastest way to lose is to use the
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strategy of the other guy. So your model of like diagnosis first is exactly where I go. And a big part of that is what is really driving you? How does ego enter the picture? And how are you being
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shaped by your perceptions? But like I think ego is like a big part that like people don't understand and if you don't understand ego like it's going to run your life. H how do you define ego? How do you
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understand it and how do you overcome it? Great. Uh so it's not to be overcome first thing.
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So ego I love sunskrit. So there's one can I can I go like off track for a second? Okay. So the bit of depth. So in the west the way that we learn things is through like instrumentation. So we have
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x-rays, we have biopsies, we take blood tests and in psychiatry we use words. That is the way that we try to understand what is someone's mind. Now let me ask you so this is what's also really interesting. We have no
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instrument that can measure the mind. Right? EEG electron doesn't measure the mind. fMRI doesn't measure the mind. It measures blood flow of the brain. We're measuring physical structures. Okay? So this is the fundamental difference between eastern psychology and western
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psychology. Yeah. You're the only one who has direct access to your own mind. And so the system of psychology that they developed is not based on a model developed through words. It is based on internal observation. And we in the
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west, we hate that because it's a sample size of one. It is subjective. News flash. There is no objective evidence of the existence of mind.
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You can't measure it. You can't. And then bio biological reductionists make a big mistake which is they say ah doesn't exist since we can't measure it doesn't exist shared delusion by 8 billion people around the planet they say that
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mind is not real no it is real it's just non-physical it doesn't exist in the material world we all know it's there and it we act on it through things like psychotherapy so when we exert influences on the mind we
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see outcomes that are measurable our our intervention acts on the mind the mind changes and and then we see outcomes. So it absolutely exists. It just exists in a space that science cannot touch yet sort of. So we also have validated
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questionnaires and things like that which we can touch it in some ways. We can directly measure. So now we get to ego. So in the west they think that there are basically three pillars of mind. You have thoughts which is one
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thing. You have emotions which is another thing. You have behaviors which is a third thing and then you have like memories. Okay. So the yogis say there's a fourth part of the mind which is ego.
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You have a sense of self. So this is the word is aamara and aamara is the feeling of I.
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So aham is anything that comes after the words I am dot dot dot. So I am successful.
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I am a loser. Both of those things are true. I'm like absolutely loser and I'm wildly successful. I'm an idiot and I'm a genius.
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So anything that you add after I am is a hungada. That is what the ego is. So any defining quality that you attach is not actually who you are. It is part of the clothing of your ego.
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Interesting. Great word. But ego is all of the attributes that you attach to yourself. When you remove all of the sensory inputs and you exist without an object to focus on, that is the goal of meditation, by the way.
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And that is what like [ __ ] heals people because all of these problems of the ego literally cease to exist. You have so many perspectives that are two worlds combining, right? Um not that normal for a monk to go to med school as far as I'm
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aware. Um, what do you think people get really wrong when they go to psychologists or psychiatrists? Like for instance, and this is sort of a gross generalization, I've had different therapists for years at varying points in my life. By and
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large, I found them not very helpful. Yeah. And so, it would be like we'd be talking about the same thing sort of continuously. You'd have some set amount of time. I'd be repeating all the things that annoyed me that day and then um
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really not a lot of change would happen. Almost no direction, no specific next step steps. I like specificity. And now it almost seems like, you know, we're more uh therapized than we've ever been in society while simultaneously being
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less happy. Um why is that? What are we doing so [ __ ] wrong? Somewhere along the way therapy became got a monopoly on helping people.
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Yeah. So simple example of this is the fundamental idea that talking about your problems about your emotions is the gold standard for being better.
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So 70% of of therapists are women. 70% of patients this is changing now thankfully but you know 70% of patients are women. And this idea that talk therapy is the way that simply using words now words and there there's a
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really good mechanism here right so it is very effective I do talk therapy I love doing talk therapy but I also do yogic practice tantric practice I also when I I had a 15-year-old who was addicted to video games my solution to
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that is I'm going to take an MIT incubator where I have a a client and I'm going to ask them hey will you guys take a 15-year-old as a as an intern and they're like sure right so I I think
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somewhere along the way when you have a mental problem people will say go see a therapist for like all kinds of medical legal reasons too and so somewhere along the way a lot of people went to therapy and therapy is not designed to help them
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with their problems or based on what their personality is they they're not good candidates for therapy.
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You are so right because you're it's never bad to say oh you should you should go to therapy. that's always like, "No, no, that's great. That's exactly that's a safe piece of advice." As opposed to I mean, we have a dear
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friend in uh North Carolina and it was funny. She was super depressed, um, you know, overweight, uh, really unhappy in life. And, you know, my husband kind of jokingly made a comment one day. He's like, "Well, you do work inside like 15
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hours a day and not move your body a lot and uh, thus you can't really sleep very well. Like, maybe you should go throw some weights around and get some vitamin D." And at the time she was really
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pissed. She was like, "Fuck you. I am depressed." Lo and behold, she goes on more walks, she gets more vitamin D, and she works out. And that actually worked great for her.
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Absolutely. Right. So, so, uh, something that happens a lot in the manosphere is when you get dumped, they're like, "Hit the gym, bro." You know, you don't have to like grieve and cry and stuff like that. Like, what do you think about that advice? Is
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that what you I think it's really good advice. I I I think it's a piece, right? So, this is where we get to mechanism.
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Yeah. Where people grossly underestimate like a big big thing that a lot of people don't understand. And this is why I think mental illness is getting so bad.
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Somewhere along the way, we started to think that mental illness is is in the mind, which I think is fundamentally incorrect. So, there's a study that like blew my mind. Have you ever heard of a stool transplant? Yeah. Right. So, you
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have someone who has a certain kind of gut bacteria. They're depressed. And the intervention that we do is we take poop from another human being and we give it to them. Either we insert it from the rectum or they take it orally. It's like
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a probiotic. Correct. And this works. And it works, right? So you'll see like a somewhere between a 30 and 70% reduction in symptoms of depression with not one bit of psychotherapy. Not one moment of talking about your problems.
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How have people actually try that as opposed to talk therapy? Very few because I think stool transplants are still in the the research phase and and the clinical interventions are not. And then we got to get the money stool which is like so
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you know which I I don't know if we have but that's a whole new side income business I have not pondered yet. Maybe in the future.
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Yeah. Just high quality [ __ ] But actually, that's really interesting because it's probably also not as profitable. You know, talk therapy for I mean, how many people do we all know that have gone to talk therapy for like
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15 or 20 years and nothing's [ __ ] changed? That's a lot of them up in my office.
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They do. Yeah. Interesting. As opposed to if I can do a steel stool transplant, I can feel some sort of trigger change and then I can have actual habit change. Maybe my life could actually change.
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Yeah. So I I think this is where specific like you said you in your framework there are 12 fundamental areas of profit. So I think the mistake that therapy makes is there's one. So here here's the conception that I think is
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like functionally useful. It's something called bunch kosha. Gosha means sheath. Okay. So buncha means five.
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Okay. One aspect of our being which is our sheath. Our food body is the way to think about it. That's our physical form. So there are certain ways to take care of the physical body.
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Yeah. Then the second layer of our being is pranamaya kosha which is our energy body.
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Then third layer is our emotional mind. So that's our emotions. Fourth layer is the I guess you could say the analytical mind, our reasoning capability, cognition, right? So a western psychiatry has has actions, emotions and and and like cognitive stuff. And then
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the fifth fifth layer which I call soul or the spiritual body which I now understand is different but that's probably not for today. So so then there interventions at the level of like purely spiritual.
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Mhm. Which most people don't which would be like praying. Um not unless you do it right.
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Interesting. Deep meditation. Yes. So this is where I would I would talk about tantra or tantra.
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So I think like tantric interventions. What is tantra? I think about that as a sexual.
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Yeah. So tantra is translated as technique. You know you can make like a prediction based on a model or analytics. But then sometimes when you start a business or you launch something you put some oomph into it.
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Yeah. That is not mental. that is not hours of labor. Is that does that map on or resonate to you at all that sometimes you got the oomph?
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Yeah. So like when I try to explore what is that oomph and I think a lot of people who will successful will know that there's something that is not describable or reducible to an analytical model.
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Yeah. Like when you say I was turned like I really turned it on today.
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Exactly. Was really in flow today. Yes. Yes. Right. So then we have some of these approximation makes approximations of Shaki which is flow. So flow is the gateway to Shaki from a from a neuroscience mechanistic standpoint.
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Flow is the verifiable door to something greater. Flow is not the goal. It's the first step.
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Yeah. The problem is that the more subjective we become, the more that we go towards the mind, the further we move away from science and the less verifiable things become and then we get to function because it's like do you want to do something that is
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verified or do you want to do something that works? I want to do some rapid fire that I want to rapid fire some like tropes that I've heard and you tell me quickly true false why.
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Um, it takes 21 days to build a habit for some people. Uh, we only use 10% of our brains.
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False. Tell me why. I mean, 100% of our brain is active basically 100% of the time.
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Yeah. Okay. So, we've just been sold bag of goods. Time heals all wounds. Absolutely false.
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Why? If you get a fracture and you just leave it alone 10 years from now, it may heal to some degree, but it's not going to heal, right?
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So, time may heal all wounds, but it'll heal them in a broken, [ __ ] up way.
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So, good. You have to love yourself before anyone can love you. Other way around.
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Explain that. We learn how to love ourselves from as a reflect. We are the modeling of how to love me comes from other people. How do I love me? My parents teach me that it is what it is. Radical acceptance
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generally. Uh absolutely true. But gets hijacked by ego all the time is a great way to avoid responsibility. Yeah, sorry. This is who I am. If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best.
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Yeah, I've seen that Marilyn Monroe quote a lot. Actually, you know what another one is that I want to throw in there? Um what about radical transparency? Always satya should always be subject to a himsa. Truth should always be subject to
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nonviolence. Truth should so if you have a choice between being honest and being hurtful or hurt is not worth truth basically, right?
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That yep. Every [ __ ] I've ever met who always has like radical truth or radical honesty in their profile. I always I always end up Yeah. I think it's it's a license to be an [ __ ]
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It's a total license to be an [ __ ] and then tell you why they're polyamorous and it's okay. I think though they go hand in hand. That's just my science. Um what about the body keeps the score?
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Absolutely. Interesting. No doubt. Depression is a chemical imbalance. chemical, mental, spiritual, all why uh it's not. So there's a great mo paper from molecular psychiatry that actually makes a really strong case. We have really no evidence that depression is a
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an a neurochemical imbalance. We believe that because SSRIs, which boost serotonin transmission, work with depression. So then we reverse engineered the cause because a treatment works and then yeah I I so I I don't I don't think it's
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a neurochemical imbalance but there's probably some there's it's a piece of it. Let's say it's a third.
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Do you get murdered on the internet when you say that? No. Really? Yeah. I get in a lot of trouble if I say are we always just depressed or might we just need to take a different action.
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They're like how dare you say I'm not depressed. I'm not sure that was the point of that statement.
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Here's another point. I think there's a difference between depression and unhappiness. And most people are what? Unhappy or depressed.
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Uh most people are unhappy and they can have depression on top. These are two independent things.
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Everyone needs therapy. No. So I think people who believe that everyone needs therapy want to live in a world where everyone behaves in a way that they want them to behave. I can't walk through a world where people are [ __ ] up. I want
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everyone to be healed. And if the if everybody else is perfect, then I then I'll be happy because I won't have any friction with anybody. Everyone doesn't need therapy.
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It reminds me of the African proverb, which is like, do you want to pave the world in leather or wear leather shoes?
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Excellent. You know, love it. Let's try the leather shoes. Manifestation is real. Uh is real, but 99% of people don't know how to do it. There's a scientific mechanism behind it which all the new age people who believe in manifestation
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none of them are rigorous. How do we become rigorous? I want to manifest for real. I got a lot of Oh, this is what this is where you go back to.
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Yeah. Because my problem is you look around Austin, a lot of the people who are manifesting and meditating and crystalline all day rent apartments. Not by choice.
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Yeah. So I've worked with one guru who his rate of training is five figures for round one and multiple cycles of that. Six figures for round two and seven figures for round three.
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And he is so effective that people will start his stuff with at like with a net worth of like $50,000 and and the money will come.
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Interesting. It's insane. So I would love to do a scientific study on this and I I try to collect data but I think manifestation is real if done properly and 99% of people who don't who talk about it don't
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know how to do it haven't done a rigorous study of like how it actually works or experimental trials.
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Interesting. So to believe that manifestation is not real without a scientific exploration for it is in and of itself unscientific.
Speaker A
Yeah it's a good point. Right. Right. So if you want to know whether something works or not, you have to test it.
Speaker A
Yeah. Except heroin. I'm fine. I don't want to test that one. You know, I guess there's lots of studies that it does in fact lead to massive addiction.
Speaker A
Sure. So I I don't need to play with There are plenty of studies that show that it doesn't.
Speaker A
Get out. Really? 60% of I think soldiers in Vietnam use heroin and only 9% remained addicted after coming back to the US.
Speaker A
I didn't know that. That's so interesting. I just assumed I'll never try that thing because the way people talk about it looks too they I would highly recommend that you don't try.
Speaker A
This is what my doctor as of this moment because you still have it on paper says.
Speaker A
Okay, I like this. Um last one. Happiness is a choice. Happiness is a cultivatable skill.
Speaker A
Oh, that's a good It's not a choice. If you had to leave somebody here who listened to this podcast with like one place to start, one truth, you like the pursuit of truth. one next step tactical, what would it be?
Speaker A
Understand your problems before you solve them. Yeah. And spend more time on that than the just the fixing.
Speaker A
Yeah. And one quick tip about that. One of the biggest reasons that that's hard to do is one way that the mind runs away from problems is by manufacturing bigger ones that demand your attention.
Speaker A
Especially for entrepreneurs whose personal life is a mess. Should we all go to an ashram? Do you think I would like an ashram?
Speaker A
I'm kind of intrigued. I would I would not like it. I mean, you can go if you want. I don't think you need to.
Speaker A
Really? Yeah. Why not? So, everything is an intervention. SSRI has a goal. Yeah, true.
Speaker A
Therapy has a goal. Ashram has a goal. If you want to do a dedicated spiritual practice, you can go to an ashram. If you want to eat the food and be in the environment, things like that, you should go. But I think that the nice
Speaker A
thing is that there's a lot of great spiritual practice that you can learn here. So if you want to go then go. But should you go? That depends on what you want. If you want to go, go.
Speaker A
Yeah. Why would you go to ashram? To do internal work, but internal work is done internally.
Speaker A
It can be done anywhere. So if you want the the lifestyle and the diet and the atmosphere and the social connection, the environment, then go to an ashra.
Speaker A
No, orange is not my color. I don't think that would be Did you wear orange when you were there?
Speaker A
No, I'm not a I'm not a sas. I mean uh swami. So is there any dress code at was there dress code at your ashram?
Speaker A
Sort of. I mean people wore natural things but my most recent dress code is I hate clothes.
Speaker A
So I started doing a nudist ash. No I mean I'll wear a chundi but like like this like a underwear.
Speaker A
Okay. But like I love that you point down there and say the word like I'm going to know what that is. Like yeah.
Speaker A
So I I've done very serious spiritual practice in the last two years. In your underwear.
Speaker A
Huh? In your underwear. And I I like can't wear clothes anymore. Like this is painful.
Speaker A
Wait. Yeah, that is wild. Yeah, it's weird. I can't actually wait for this headline, which is like Harvard psychiatrist no longer clothes.
Speaker A
So, next podcast, no clothing. I'll think about it. There's there's some there's some branding stuff, right, where like how you name things and it's like that does seem like that would do really well on Twitch. healthy gamer everywhere
Speaker A
on social. So YouTube and then I think if people want to learn the deep stuff.
Speaker A
Yeah. Which like what are they gonna get? The answer is I don't know. But it's you're going to get the stuff that you didn't know you needed. That's over in our membership.
Speaker A
And where's that? Healthy gamer. Yeah. Same thing. This was amazing for coming on. Thank you for having me.
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