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[music] That was when I saw this long lanky shadow peeking in through the doorway of my room. It had long black finger-like tendrils protruding from black limbs as thin as a twig.
Crimes of Reddit hosts present paranormal-adjacent true crime stories from Reddit, including a haunted-house tale of a shadowy entity, a killer-linked ghost story, and a missing-child case.
Key Takeaways
- Reddit-sourced paranormal stories blend true crime details with supernatural interpretations
- Many stories hinge on ambiguous explanations such as the house's age, deaths on the property, or unexplained sounds
- The episode mixes lighthearted banter with dark, disturbing crime content
What the video covers
- Hosts open with a Halloween costume reveal before diving into spooky content
- Content warning given for child homicide, gun violence, suicide, and a home invasion attempt
- First story: a 19-year-old describes growing up in a 120-year-old haunted house with an antique collection and a history of a suicide on the property
- The family's antiques include a Nepalese death-goddess mask, a haunted-reputed Russian doll, and a lock of Abraham Lincoln's hair
- Strange events include a knife found stabbed into the kitchen floor, and a shadowy crawling entity seen in the narrator's bedroom
- Second story involves a hardware store building rumored to be haunted by a murdered victim tied to a serial killer
- Hosts reference Silence of the Lambs and the Plainfield killer, Ed Gein
- Third story describes a psychic-like voice insisting a girl was 'with her mom' while the girl was actually with her dad
- Hosts discuss a case where a ghost's testimony was reportedly used at trial to help convict a killer
- Closing segment features a story of two men attempting to break car windows before fleeing, and a discussion of fate and destiny
Chapters
- 00:00Intro and costume reveal
- 01:00Content warning and show premise
- 05:00Story one: The haunted house and the shadow entity
- 21:30Story two: The hardware store and the killer's ghost
- 30:00Story three: The missing girl and the psychic voice
- 38:20Discussion of ghost testimony and trial
- 44:10Story four: The attempted break-in and fate discussion
- 52:00Outro and podcast promotion
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I stared at it and though it didn't have any discernible eyes, I could tell it was staring at me and it dropped to the floor on its hands and knees and began crawling towards my bed.
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Subscribe now and step inside the world of Crimes of Reddit. Hello. Welcome back to Crimes of Reddit in the spooky season. It's here. It's among us.
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It's within our very own bones. And if you're watching the video, you might notice that it's transformed us.
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I don't know what you're talking about. either. Uh we are your co-hosts. I'm Alex Whoa.
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[laughter] I'm Alexis. That [laughter] is incredible. You should have just kept going and really freaked people out.
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I'm Sabrina Deianira Loga or something else. I'm Alexis Linkletter or am I a fruit bat? Who knows?
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Or am I Nosferatu? Actually, we are dressed in costume. So, if you are listening to this episode, you might want to go check out the YouTube video because we dressed up for today's episode because if you haven't been able to tell already, we are doing
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Halloween spooky related stories and we actually did a costume reveal to one another. We didn't tell each other what we were dressing up as and we filmed a whole reveal which we will show you right now.
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Or let you listen to. All right, three two one. [laughter] Are you a fruit bat?
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Yeah! ARE YOU SLENDER MAN? [laughter] IT'S NOSFERATU. OH, I should have guessed the hands.
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Oh my god, you look so good. You look I would not have recognized you as a brunette. Like if you were on the street I would not have known. Yeah, you're not a brunette. Yeah, you're not a brunette. You're blonde.
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But you are not bald, but you are. I am bald. You look gorgeous. I love it.
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[laughter] One thing about me, I love Actually, two things about me. I love Halloween and I love a bald cap.
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Yeah, when it was Sabrina's birthday recently, she's like, "Everyone has to wear a bald cap." And I was like, "No, I can't do that." You have a good head for a bald cap. Most people do not.
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I don't think I do. I just enjoy I like the fact that I don't feel like myself when I'm wearing this attire.
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What do you mean? Clearly, I thought I was you. What [laughter] do you Honestly, I feel like Nosferatu. But then I hear my voice and I'm like, "Well, that doesn't line up." But I guess the original Nosferatu is
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silent movie, so I will not talk the rest of it. I'm just kidding. But like, you really go all out and I really commend you for that.
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Don't look too closely. But like, that's what cool, pretty girls do and it's working.
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Thanks. Well, I like yours is very clever. Thank you. Fruit bat. Yeah, so today we're doing a little like spin a spooky spin on the theme.
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Yeah. We're celebrating my favorite holiday, Halloween. And again, since Halloween is around the corner, we went digging for the spookiest, most paranormal crimes that we could find on Reddit. And even though we look different today, it's the same in that we don't know each other's
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stories. So, we're going to be reacting in real time. In real time. Mhm. And today we even have a story that was submitted by one of our listeners on our subreddit.
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Actually, I think it was a story also from a Two Girls One Ghost listener because on a Campfire Stories of Two Girls One Ghost, she was telling us about the story and I was like, "Oh my gosh, you have to submit it to our
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Crimes of Reddit." And she was like, "I did." I love that. that's the one you have.
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Anyhoo, get ready. [gasps] [laughter] What sound does a bat make? How do you do echolocation? I'm doing it right now.
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[laughter] Can you bat all the bats come flocking? So, before we get into this first story, we do want to give a content warning.
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There are mentions of child homicide, gun violence, suicide, and a home invasion attempt. So, please watch with care.
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This is a story that was submitted on the subreddit Ghost Stories. It is called, "I think an entity tried to kill my family." And so, if this was not made clear, the the spin that we have is like this these
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are paranormal-adjacent crimes that have a lot of true crime aspects but a paranormal spin.
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Ghosts. Mhm. Ghouls, goblins. Mhm. Nosferatus. Vampires. me haunting you? Like if I was the ghost in your in your closet?
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You know, you look scary, but I feel like I could take you. Okay, rude.
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[laughter] But also, you probably told me you could. Yeah, I could. I have grown up in a haunted house. I have lived there since I was 6 months old. I am now 19 years old. There are a million possible explanations for the
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various activities that go on in this house. First, the house is over 120 years old. It was built in 1898.
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There has also been at least one case of someone dying on the property. The person in question died by suicide in the garage on the property.
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Additionally, there was one woman who was born in the house and lived there until she was 93, then went to an assisted living home where she died shortly after leaving the house. So, we think it's possible she may have come
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back to our house after death because her entire life was spent in the house. Additionally, I am an antique collector. I have a number of old and creepy and some downright, shall we say, morbid artifacts.
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I have an authentic mask carved by the Nepalese of the Hindu goddess of death and destruction. I have an antique Russian doll that was owned by a young girl who got sick and then died in the '60s and
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it has been said that the doll has paranormal energy attached to it. I have plenty of different masks from the Congo in Africa which are authentic and they were sold by a museum that had gone bankrupt. I have coins ranging in age
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from 100 to 3,000 years old from every continent that created metal coinage in their history.
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What a cool collection. So cool. I have a couple haunted dolls at home. Why? Because my podcast Two Girls One Ghost.
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Haunted dolls, where did you procure them? Some people have given them to us or I purchased two from eBay.
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And I've never had anything happen. I have no haunted items. That you know of.
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I'm your haunted item. You're my haunted item, for sure. item. You collected me. Yes.
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Okay. OP says, "And perhaps most morbid of all, I have a lock of Abraham Lincoln's hair." Whoa.
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And a fragment of wood of the gallows where the conspirators in his assassination were hung.
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Whoa. I have questions. The point is, there are a a of things in my household which carry the potential to have a lot of spiritual energy. And we have had plenty of experiences with different entities which proves there is
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some sort of activity in this house. There's a picture included in this story. Ooh.
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None of the entities we have ever experienced have ever been or tried to be harmful.
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They have been somewhat threatening in nature before. Like one morning we woke up to find a knife stabbed into the floor of the kitchen. It was an exacto knife that was still in its case, but it had hit the ground with enough force
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that the case had shattered. So, the knife was just like That's really strange. Yeah.
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But there have never been any outright attempts to harm anyone or anything in this house until this event.
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So, what happened this night happened in two separate parts, sort of. It's kind of difficult to explain and there's no true way of knowing if what happened downstairs preceded what happened in my room or if it happened after or if it happened at the same
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time. But the point is these two things happened and I believe they were definitely linked no matter what order they happened in.
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It all started out, for me at least, when I woke up in my bedroom at around 3:00 a.m.
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I didn't look at my phone, so I don't know the exact time. I looked at my phone after all of it had happened and at that time it was 3:21 a.m.
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So, OP assumes they woke up at 3:00. Mhm. What happened couldn't have taken more than 8 minutes.
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So, I woke up and I realized that my lights were out, which is strange. I have very bad paranoia when it comes to the dark and as a result I have to sleep with some sort of light on. And whenever
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I wake up and that light is out, which is very rare, but once in a while it's due to a storm because my part of town can lose power.
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But when it happens, I wake up and I freak out. So, as soon as I came out of my tired stupor, I instantly began to toss and turn trying to fiddle with my light.
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Most of the time, the light has just gone out to a momentary loss of power, and so I just need to turn it back on.
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But this time, I felt around for the light, and when I hit the button to turn it back on, nothing happened.
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So, I grabbed my phone to give some light, and saw that had been pulled out of the wall entirely.
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This has never happened before, and I found it extremely creepy. I tried to brush it off. I plugged the light back into the wall, and I tried to lay back down to go to sleep.
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But I couldn't. I think everybody has probably at some point in their life had that indescribable feeling of being watched.
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And I had that feeling. It was just so innate and obvious that I couldn't ignore it.
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So, I laid there on my bed with my eyes fluttering open and shut for a minute or two before I flipped over.
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That was when I saw this long, lanky shadow peeking in through the doorway of my room.
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It had long, black, finger-like tendrils protruding from black limbs as thin as a twig. It was anthropomorphic in shape. I stared at it, and though it didn't have any discernible eyes, I could tell it was staring at me.
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I couldn't look away. I was afraid of what it might do if I turned away from it.
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And it dropped to the floor on its hands and knees and began crawling towards my bed. It crawled around the foot of my bed and around the side where I could see its head again, but still no face.
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My bed is placed against the wall on one side, and I pushed myself up against the wall as far away from where this thing is as possible. I closed my eyes, and I started murmuring under my breath telling it to go away. I didn't want to
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wake up or alarm my family, so I tried to stay quiet. And after I stayed huddled for like maybe two or three minutes, although it felt like an eternity, I opened my eyes, and that thing that had been there
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was gone. Mhm. Not a single trace of it. I straightened back out on my bed, utterly shaken by what I had seen. It was easily the most terrifying thing I had experienced in a long, long time.
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I tried to fall back asleep, although I knew it was pointless. It took until 7:00 a.m. maybe for me to fall back asleep finally. And even then it was probably only for an hour.
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And when I woke up, I went downstairs to find my mom already awake. She was already a morning person, so this is not out of the ordinary.
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But she had some news, which made what I had witnessed the night prior even more disturbing.
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She said, "At some point during the night, the gas from our stovetop turned itself on.
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And so the entire night natural gas had been leaking out through our house, which I don't know if that could pose a potential suffocation hazard, but I do know it's a massive hazard for explosions." She had opened all the windows and
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turned on some fans and air circulators to try and get the gas out and dissipate as much of it as possible, but she didn't want to wake me up.
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Even though she had been airing everything out, I could still smell that faint whiff of the natural gas hanging in the air, which very seriously could have wound up being deadly had there been a candle burning, or had someone turned on a
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lighter at the very wrong moment. Luckily that was not the case, but we wasted no time in cleansing our house.
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We put up a few crosses and let any malevolent presences know that they are not welcome.
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Thankfully nothing dangerous or aggressive like that has happened since, but it is still something that has terrified me for quite some time now.
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And then they put a photo to kind of back up other hauntings that they've experienced in their house. And as context, this is a photo that was taken in the back room of their house by a night vision camera long after
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everyone in the house had gone upstairs to bed. It's on an entirely different floor than where everyone sleeps. And the apparition is clear as day.
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So we have two things to dissect here. Uh-huh. Do you see the human being?
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I see like two different things. What do you see? This is what I'm looking at, like right here.
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Yeah. So, I see a woman here, but I see a face here. Oh, where's the face?
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So, I see a woman's body there, but I sort of like see In the like fog?
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Yeah. Like that's what I thought. It It looks almost like, you know, when the shutter speed in a camera is turned really slow, it almost looks like the the path of a face is like being traced, and then it's like right there.
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Ooh. I see two Yeah. figures. The woman is so clear. crystal clear. Like that looks like a human woman walking around, but it this looks like some sort of ghost to me. I see more than one thing.
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Yeah. That's terrifying. Cuz that's like a photo of a woman. That's like a rec like someone could recognize that if that was their mom.
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Yeah. What do you think about the entity potentially trying to like kill the family?
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So, you tell me, like have you heard about these tendril entities? Like is that recognizable? Cuz I've never heard of Are they demons?
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There's so many different types of entities. Listen, here's what I will say. I've been doing Two Girls, One Ghost podcast for 9 years, and the one thing I can confidently say is that I don't know anything about anything.
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Can they take whatever form they want? I don't know. I don't I don't know the rules.
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I don't know the rules. Come on. Tell me. You must know. I know, and I'm just not telling you?
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I don't know. Like I wonder if you're a ghost, can you be like if you can dream it, you can do it type thing?
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Listen, I want that to be the case because I would be an amazing ghost.
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I know. Like I'm I hope there's no rules and like all the rules that I want there to be because I would I would show up like this.
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Yeah. You'd have to. Yeah. Or Voldemort. Or Gollum. Mhm. That's all different iterations of the same thing.
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Bald You'd be a bald cap entity. A scary bald cap entity in your home. I don't know. I mean, it definitely sounds like this does align with a lot of stories where people wake up in the middle of the night, have
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a feeling that someone's watching them. Usually it's associated or brought along brought on with some version of sleep paralysis.
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And then, yeah, there are these like amorphous like smoky black long tendril-like entities. But the whole like dropping to its hands and knees, does it have hands or is it just its appendages?
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Well, it was its appendages. Hands in quotes. Well, we've talked about this. You believe in the paranormal.
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Mhm. Do you think this was a paranormal experience? Yeah. What's interesting though is like so we see this entity in a human form on this night vision camera. I always wonder if it's like some push-pull like battle between
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okay, safe, neutral entities and the dark ones because you see some some of that depicted in like film, right? Where it's like there's bad demons, there's good spirits. Like it sounds like something like that is going on, especially since OP talked about like
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harmless haunting up until that point. And it's like maybe maybe like a portal opened and that dark one got in.
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I agree. Then the others like maybe the other ones are good ones and they're like not tonight.
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Yeah. Tendril or Tendril [laughter] just was really strong and came in. Then the blaring.
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Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I do agree I feel like this house just has a lot of energy and this is not the one that's hanging out all the time.
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No. So one comment people were bringing up a couple times in this post was maybe the gas leak caused hallucinations and sleep disturbance. Which, yes, that could be possible.
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But I feel like if the gas was leaking for that long more people in the house would have had some type of disturbance. Or if you're like me and you want to say "Hey, it's paranormal." did this evil entity do
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both things? Yeah, that's a great hypothesis. And also, if you're listening and you don't believe in ghosts, totally fine.
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You can just enjoy this as a fun story. Okay, then someone else commented, "I almost wonder if something good unplugged your light knowing that this thing was coming to push it over and possibly cause an explosion." Which is
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super creepy. And then OP wrote, "Oh, damn. That's an interesting thought. It was a near indestructible LED light, so they don't think it was that the case." But then someone else said, "I wonder if this thing was trying to mess with the
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outlet somehow to cause some type of spark." Which OP was also like, "Didn't consider that." Perhaps.
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Scary. Yeah. What would you do in that situation? Die. Like I I don't know. That sounds honestly, I've never been in a situation You've had sleep paralysis, though.
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I've seen Yeah, but that wasn't danger. That was like What I experienced was like warped and like distorted and strange, but like not It was didn't feel in danger. It was like a dream-like state that I was in, but I was
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definitely awake. But like I've never been in a situation of like sheer terror where someone is in my doorway that I don't recognize or or something I see and then like every once in a while you mistakenly see something
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out of the corner of your eye, but then you look and it's not what you thought.
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I've never been like, "Whoop, yep, and it's coming." You know? I've never had like something that intense happen to me.
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So, it's hard to say. I really don't know. Yeah, I don't think I've ever had that intense, but I've had quite a lot of paranormal experiences.
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You You will it to yourself. You It's self-fulfilling for you. Most of them happened before I ever had a podcast about the paranormal.
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And then the scariest thing that did happen in recent years was I for sure put myself that followed you home from Was it Scotland?
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I went to um Greyfriars Kirkyard in Edinburgh, Scotland. And there's this tomb for Bloody Mackenzie, and there's this like quote there's this like kind of like Bloody Mary type of game that you can play, and you're supposed to whisper
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it into the tomb. And our tour guide was like, "Who wants to play a game?" And stupidly, I'm there by myself. I raise my hand and I was like, "I do." Then immediately I was like, "Why did I
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do that?" And then I verbatim said the like It's basically mocking and beckoning Bloody Mackenzie to haunt you. It's like, "Come and get me." But the whole time I was saying it in my head I was yelling. I was like, "I'm
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joking. I don't mean it. Don't come." And I got sleep paralysis that night, and a terrifying entity tried to I don't know move my legs and did something very strange.
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restless leg syndrome? No, it literally I felt like ankles or I felt like hands grabbed my ankles and started pulling my legs apart.
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And I could not move my body. it want? I think it was trying to terrify me.
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Mhm. It was truly trying to instill fear. And it did. It did just that, but it was my fault.
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You know, we all need to live and learn. You need to be humbled every once in a while.
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Yeah. [laughter] I love that. Yeah. That's our first story. [music] This episode is brought to you by Vinted.
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everything you earn. I mean, I like that these are paranormal stories and not stories of like suffering.
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That's true. ending like okay, he's okay. That's true. Yeah, I I will take a ghost or a demon any day over human predators.
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Now, our second story, are we ready? Mhm. So, our second story is tied to a killer that you might be familiar with.
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Oh. In fact, I think most people will at least have some name recognition tied to the antagonist.
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But, you may have seen the Ryan Murphy show. Ed Gein? That's the one. No, it's the Gein.
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Ed Gein starring Charlie Hunnam. Who I like I like how you did a hair flip for Charlie Hunnam. You're like In case In case he's watching.
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[laughter] Now your hair's on your wing. Look away, Charlie. Okay so this was posted 5 years ago in the ghost stories Reddit.
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And this one is short, but it's definitely chilling and definitely worth unpacking. Okay. So, OP says this, "Most people here are probably aware of the story of Ed Gein.
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For those that aren't, he was a small town handyman who confessed to murdering two women in addition to stealing numerous bodies from their graves.
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That's not really what he's known for. No. He's not most known for the murders, although those were horrific. He was most known for what he would do with body parts.
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Well, the lampshades. Nipple belts, the furniture. lampshades. Yeah. He made things. He made like bowls out of skulls. He did really weird stuff.
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He was break He was grave robbing cuz he had a fascination with body parts and he was deeply mentally ill.
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Yes. Yes. Anyways, OP continues. So, one of the women he murdered was the owner of the local hardware, which he shot and killed her. That building still stands today.
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Now, it's worth mentioning these murders occurred in the '50s. So, they're quite old. Mhm.
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Now, OP says their story happened 20 years ago from 5 years ago. So, this is an old story. And the context there is that this building has had a lot of iterations, has changed quite a lot since the original hardware store where
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this murder occurred. Okay. So, OP continues. I live in that same town and it was just before Thanksgiving when this happened.
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I'd already started decorating my place for Christmas and I needed to replace some of the lights. So, I just made a quick trip to the hardware store for a couple of boxes. I knew the building was rumored to be haunted by the murdered
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woman. Oh, that's sad. I know. Cuz she was murdered there. In the building. Yeah. But OP says, I never put much stock in that.
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So, they go to the store. I was in the back area where they kept the Christmas decorations and was about to grab the lights when I heard someone nearby saying something about antifreeze.
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So, I turned my head. I turned my head and saw a woman walk by. And the woman had a massive gunshot wound in her head.
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Wasn't didn't Ed Gein ask for anti- antifreeze? Like didn't he come in with that as his cover story?
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Yeah. She then suddenly disappeared. So, OP says, I just stood there in shock for a good minute. When I finally made my way to the front of the store to pay for the lights, the guy behind the counter took one look at my face and
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simply said, "You saw her, didn't you?" Yeah. Woah. Now, like you said, I mean, the victim who was murdered in the hardware store, her name was Bernice Worden. And yes, Gein purchased a gallon of antifreeze from Worden's hardware store
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when he murdered her, and he actually kept the receipt. Mhm. And the receipt was written in the victim's handwriting and later found at the scene, and it actually led to his arrest.
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Yeah. And how they figured out it was him. Now, some more context on Gein for those who just don't know.
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I'm pretty sure episode one of Crimes of that Karen and I covered was Ed Gein.
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So, in this audio feed, if you want to go back and listen to that episode.
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I love that. very thorough. So, some more context about Gein. He confessed to killing another woman who owned the local tavern, and her name was Mary Hogan, and he did that in 1954.
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And many believe that he also murdered his older brother. When he was arrested, he was deemed insane initially, and he remained in a mental hospital until his death in 1984. Though he did eventually stand trial for one of the murders 10
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years after he was arrested. And a lot of film and movies and books were sort of based on Gein, including Psycho, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Silence of the Lambs.
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Because Silence of the Lambs specifically I feel like they made like skin lamps in that movie.
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And um there were several documentaries created about him as well. Damn, I can't believe I feel so sad that her spirit is still there.
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I know. How do you relinquish a spirit from that those shackles? Again, I don't have all of the answers.
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I do cuz there's also different types of hauntings. There's the residual hauntings where someone, maybe it's just like a stain, an energetic stain.
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And it's like her last moments. After such a trauma when a traumatic thing happened. That like it just is like on a repeat.
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an imprint where she might not fully be there. Her spirit might be gone but it's sort of stuck.
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Yeah, like a memory. In a astral plane. Yeah. Which is what I hope it is because I would hate to think that someone who was a victim of such a horrible crime is stuck reliving those locked in that moment.
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Yeah. I also do believe and I think this happens with like human beings as well.
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That parts of us or energy pieces of us do chip off when something like really traumatic happens or even like something really really good happens.
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Like I think back to a moment in the house that I grew up in where something like traumatic happened to me. Sometimes I wonder if the people who live there now ever experience hauntings in that like one room in the basement where it
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happened. Probably. I think I feel like you can definitely keep energy stays in houses. I mean it's why people sage rooms. Like this is all rooted in tradition and history and people really believing that probably cuz it's true.
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Yeah. Agreed. There are a couple comments we should go through. Okay. So one poster said, "I thought the store was closed. Hasn't it been closed for years? At any rate it might be time for you guys to seek a shaman or medium to
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help her and any other victims who are not at rest." The OP responded and said, "The store remained open under different names and under different owners until it finally closed down for good about 7 or 8 years ago. Now it's vacant which is
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even creepier." Mhm. And another user said, "I drove through Plainfield some years ago with a buddy of mine. Stopped at a local bar restaurant. As soon as we walked in everyone looked at us and it took forever for us to get served. The town
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gives me the creeps." Yeah. I've never been there so I I know. No but the OP said that's pretty much Plainfield in a nutshell.
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Yeah. Which is sad also that that history has like made such an imprint on what the town is still to this day.
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And interesting, one of the users also had the same theory as you. One posted, "The only thing I'm curious about is the ghost of the woman in the hardware store. Is she if she is a residual haunting or playing
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over and over, if she ever has been known to interact with the living?" It's a good question, especially cuz the guy at the front of the store knew instantly, "You saw her, didn't you?" immediately, and implying that he
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has had multiple encounters with her. Yeah. And that's what she seems to be doing the same thing. Probably the same dress, pacing around, all that stuff.
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Oh. Yeah. That's chilling. But the OP says she's a residual haunting. The last person she'd interacted with was Gean himself.
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How often do people see her? OP says it was at least once or twice a month, but now that the building's vacant, I guess nobody sees her.
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But if she's residual, that's okay. Cuz it's not like it's an active haunting who's then lonely.
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I was going to ask, and I literally have a I wrote this question in, "What happens when a ghost is haunting a structure, and then what if the structure knocks down or is demolished, or is never like entered
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again? Like does the ghost just keep haunting no one?" Or it goes back to the question if it's perceived. Like is it like a tree falls in the woods, did anyone hear it? Like did did it make a sound?
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Well, I think this goes to like we had this conversation when you were on Two Girls One Ghost of there are so many things that the human eye cannot perceive. Like cats and animals see colors on a different spectrum than we
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do. They hear sounds that we and frequencies that we literally cannot hear. So, if us humans are not perceiving them, I imagine the pets are still.
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Yeah. But I don't know what happens to them cuz there's stories where spirits can travel. Then there's also stories where spirits are like stuck in one place that I Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know. Great mysteries of the world. One day we'll have answers, and if we don't in this lifetime, don't worry.
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I'll haunt everyone in the future, and I will make it even more confusing. All right, are you ready for the next one? Yeah.
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[music] I was excited for this story because it has both a true crime and a paranormal aspect. And it is called, "Did a ghost help me solve a murder or is it all a coincidence?" This is posted on the
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paranormal subreddit 10 months ago. Ooh, recent. Yes, but I do think this story happened back in the '90s. Okay.
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Quick warning, this really happened and does involve the death of a young girl, so content warning.
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And they also write that they're not putting any names in this story, and they asked anyone in the comments to not try to find the name in case people from the case or connected to the case are still alive. So, they wrote, "I'll be
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vague on the details, but this is a story I've kept since I was eight, and I kind of need some sort of closure." As I mentioned, I was 8 years old when this happened. It was the late '90s.
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My mom and I went to the grocery store, and while there, we found these missing person flyers for a girl my age. When I saw it, I wanted to take it home because the girl had curly hair, and I wanted to
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try and draw it. Also, little me figured if I saw her at school or something, I would recognize her. I took the flyer back to my home, which had a concrete porch.
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And as context, there was definitely already something very wrong with our house. I often felt paranoid, or I saw shadowy figures staring at the end of the hallway. I once got a bad scratch on my back despite sleeping in a bed
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surrounded by stuffed animals. And there were dead baby birds around the house all the time. That is Dead birds is always bad. Yes.
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The concrete porch was also very odd, since it was like a huge brick of painted concrete and was the only of its kind that I ever saw.
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My mom also tells me that I was always terrified of that house, and though I vividly remember the many reasons why, it always struck me as odd that I was the only one affected. And I had a younger sister as well, who never seemed
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impacted by it. On this day, I went to my room and I laid on my stomach on my floor with colored pencils, a blank piece of paper, and that flyer of the missing girl.
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Not 5 minutes into drawing, I was overcome with that sort of fear you get when someone is yelling at you.
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And with that, I felt a presence behind me. And in my mind, there was this persistent shouting, but again, in my head. This voice was saying, "She's not missing. She's with her mom. She's not missing. She's with her mom. Tell
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someone. Tell them she's not missing. She's with her mom." Again, there's no actual noise out loud, but it was ringing in my mind so clearly and I felt so scared that I was paralyzed and couldn't move.
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Eventually, I finished the picture and that yelling voice in my head died down. But the phrase was so insistent and I knew it wouldn't go away until I told someone.
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So, I rushed out of my room and down the hallway to my mom. I showed her the picture and then I told her, "Hey Mom, I don't think that this girl is missing. I think she's with her mom."
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My mom tried to reassure me that she was probably fine, but I looked out the dark window and suddenly became very aware of how our city was surrounded by deep woods.
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I tried to tell myself that if the girl really is with her mom, that surely she'd be fine.
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But then I kept thinking about the woods and my heart had this cold, sinking feeling.
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Just so sad for an 8-year-old to be. Devastating. Yeah. This is like heavy for a kid.
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Yeah. Years had passed. We moved out of the house, and then less than a year later, that house mysteriously caught fire.
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According to my research, it was renovated only to mysteriously burn down a second time. A new house is placed on that land, but whenever I'm visiting my hometown, I can find it again because it still has that concrete porch. It had
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been about 10 years later and I was watching Forensic Files reruns and there was an episode about my hometown and an 8-year-old girl that went missing while waiting for the school bus. Her father called the police and described what she
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was wearing almost too accurately. One of the officers warned the dad that the officer knew it was him and that he'd find out eventually. Which this scared the dad enough to drive into the woods, stay there for a few hours, then
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drive even deeper into the woods before going home. The cops secretly placed a tracker on the dad's car and the police went to the two points of interest and found the body of his daughter.
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It had been dug up from the first spot and then buried deeper at the second.
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Turns out the little girl was never missing to begin with and had been with the dad.
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And just to clarify, this is a different case than the flyer that OP had seen with his mom, but it sounds so similar.
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Mhm. The episode had the girl's uncle there to give his point of view, so her mother's brother. He expressed how he knew the girl's dad was no good and how scared his sister was of him before.
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She, too, had gone missing some years before but was never found. An interesting thing that was stated in the episode though is that the girl's dad was a construction worker for residential homes again in OP's hometown and his specific job
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was in concrete. Weird. Despite my experiences, I do still hold a very fair level of skepticism. So, here are a few important notes.
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My mom confirmed that this house that I lived in was very run-down and contained black mold which can cause psychosis and hallucinations among other health dangers.
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So, even though I do find it odd that I was the only one of four, apparently affected by these paranormal experiences, I very well could have been hallucinating during our time there. I also am known for having a very
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overactive imagination. I also remember in the winter, the windows would freeze inside because of how poorly insulated the home was, and there was faulty wiring that could have certainly explained the reason for the house burning down, at least the first time.
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The mold could also maybe explain the birds. Does it? I don't know. If they're like ingesting it, I don't know.
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Still, all of these instances have a very valid explanations. But as a young, bright-eyed 8-year-old, I could never imagine a parent to ever harm their own child. This message I heard happened on the day she went missing, and the message was so clear in my head,
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and I've never before or since had such an urge like I did that night. It really felt like furious, insistent, distraught screaming, except with no actual sound.
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So, what do you think, Reddit? Could there have been a ghost of a mother begging me to tell my own mother where to find her daughter?
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Or I don't know, is it completely separate, and are there skeletal remains under the concrete of that house that I lived in?
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Or was everything just a mix of coincidences and psychosis caused by a house that was most certainly not up to code?
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Maybe all all of the above. It's a hard one. It's really hard to know.
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Yeah. It's a very, very sad story. It's so sad. And there are plenty of stories of psychics and mediums working with police to like try to solve cases, and not to say that every time it's successful, or that every person who does that is
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legit, but this does seem like just a child an innocent child who's like tapping into something.
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Yeah. And so someone in the comments wrote, "No one knows why certain things happen to certain people. Personally, I think some people are just more intuitive or sensitive than others. This can change throughout your life, sometimes stronger, sometimes weaker, but
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throughout my life I've realized that proximity bears a strong role in such things as well as association.
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OP wrote, "So, do you think that I might have actually experienced something? I think my biggest struggle has been wondering if this might be a solid example of paranormal activity or if I'm overlooking some obvious explanation of sort." And the reply from the commenter
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was, "Yes, children are always more susceptible to the paranormal in my honest opinion." Yeah, I buy that. Yeah.
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Fascinating. Right. So, I don't know. I don't know. What's your take, ghost expert? It very much could have been a message.
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It could have been some spirit coming in to communicate or I'd be curious. I would have a lot of questions to ask like, what did the voice sound like? Did it sound Was it female? Was it male? Did it sound like a
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little kid? Was it the the spirit of the child being like, "I'm not missing."?
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Maybe all spirits do it, but we don't know because they're not perceived. The messages aren't perceived. Like maybe every victim of violent crime like sends out Maybe their energy radiates and it's like you just don't hear it unless you're
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capable of perceiving it. Like Which must be so frustrating if you're a spirit. I know. They might not even know. It might be just like something echoes through the universe when such wrongdoing and pain energy exists.
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There is this one infamous case. It's a true crime case. It is formally known as the Greenbrier ghost.
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Mhm. And her name is Zona Heaster Shue and she was murdered back in back in the day, early days of America.
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And it's the one time in history that a ghost's testimony was used in trial to convict her killer.
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But had she not She like visited her mom night after night after her death.
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And because of it, her mom like begged people in town to look at her body again, and they they exhumed her body, and re-examined it, and proved that she was actually murdered by her husband, who otherwise would have gotten away
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with it. That's crazy. Yeah. I'm going to look into that. It's a cool case.
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I love [music] that. Our next story Yeah. is from our subreddit r/crimesofpod. You guys are giving us the good stories, and the one we're talking about today is one of those. So, it was posted very recently.
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Okay. OP's username is flower_princess_101. I love. I also think this is when we specifically asked for stories Yeah.
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about Halloween and paranormal. That's right. Okay, shall I commence? Please. My cousin Miranda and I lived with our grandma after college, because honestly, the alternative was moving back in with our parents.
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We both have a pretty serious case of eldest daughter syndrome. Me, too. So, going home meant slipping right back into that role, along with all the responsibility, anxiety, and childhood baggage that comes with it.
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Grandma's house felt like freedom. Ooh. About a year before this happened, Grandma had lost her long-time partner, Ray.
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He died in a fireworks accident on the 4th of July. That's so sad. Right in the front yard.
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Devastating. I can't even imagine. It was awful for our family, Jeez. but also for the whole neighborhood, because he was one of those people everyone knew and loved.
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So sad. Poor Ray. So, sometime around May of 2015, one of my cousin's aunts had a blue moon party.
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Do you know what those are? They're like a once in a blue moon party?
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Yeah, but it aligns with the the blue moon. Yeah. Do you do that? Um I probably do witchy things those on those days.
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On Long Island it was a thing. My family used to have them, too. I don't know why. I Jersey, no? They didn't do those?
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No, we had Mischief Night. That's fun. So, sometime around May of 2015, one of my cousin's aunts had a blue moon party. It happened to be during an actual blue moon.
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So, we spent the night drinking Blue Moon. I love that. Wow, very meta. Yeah.
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Under the night sky and having a great time. I'm going to go to one of these parties.
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Sounds great. I'll host one. Yes. Next time. Eventually it got late and we decided to head home.
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Her aunt lived at the top of a pretty steep hill. So, we'd use the emergency brake when we parked the car. When we went to leave, the damn thing got stuck.
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We tried everything and eventually the car alarm started going off at 1:00 a.m. in a quiet residential neighborhood. Her uncle came out and helped us get it unstuck, which delayed us even more.
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At the time it was just annoying. Looking back, that part really bothers me. Mhm.
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By the time we got back to grandmom's, it was ridiculously late. And full disclosure, we were stoner kids.
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Grandmom had five dogs who'd go absolutely insane if you even looked at the door knob wrong. So, we decided to smoke one last time in the car before going inside. We turned the car off, took the keys out, rolled up the
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windows, and smoked. When we finished, we just sat there talking. We were best friends. We'd had a long night and we were still a little wired from the party and the whole car alarm situation. Then, the radio turned
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on. By itself. The car was completely off. The keys weren't even in the ignition and neither of us had touched anything. We both jumped and started looking around trying to figure out what the hell was happening. Then, I looked in the
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rearview mirror. There were two people walking toward our car. Both were wearing ski masks, and both were carrying crowbars.
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Oh my gosh. They were coming straight toward us. I remember being strangely calm. I looked at Miranda and said, "Start the car right now. There are two people with masks behind us." She started the car and headlights came
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on. The two men froze. They clearly had no idea we were sitting inside. They were only a few feet away, and I genuinely believe they were seconds from smashing the windows. Instead, they turned around and ran down the street.
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We sat there in complete shock before calling the non-emergency police line and making a report.
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Good on you. I would have called the emergency line. Here's the part I still can't explain.
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If that radio hadn't turned itself on, I don't think I would have looked in the rearview mirror. We would have just kept sitting there talking, completely unaware that anyone was behind us until they were already at the windows.
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I know there's probably a perfectly normal explanation for a car radio turning itself on. I'm sure someone when the car's off?
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That's what I'm saying. Is there? I don't think so. I'm sure someone could explain the electrical mechanics of it, but Miranda and I both believe with 100% certainty that Ray was looking out for us that night. Cuz remember, he passed
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away in the front yard. The emergency brake delayed us, and then the radio made me look up.
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Somehow those two completely bizarre things put us in exactly the right place at exactly the right time. I don't know what happened that night. I just know that if the radio hadn't turned on, this story could have ended very differently.
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Well, yeah, cuz at first I was like, "Why were they delayed?" Like, why would you want them to be in that position?
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But then maybe it it prevented so much other worse stuff from happening or someone else from like actually being harmed or hurt.
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Yeah, I mean, there's this burnt toast theory that people talked about where sometimes things like that happen to save you and it's someone maybe a spirit saving you from something they know is going to they know is going to happen.
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Like I always think about Seth MacFarlane. Yes. And I hate actually talking about this story cuz why was he I know. You know, why are a lot of people though same situation on that day who had bad feelings.
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you don't know 9/11, Seth MacFarlane was supposed to be on one of those flights that hit one of the towers and he missed it by 10 minutes. Yeah.
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It's an interesting thing. It's an interesting way to like look at something optimistically something bad happens like something unfortunate like a missed flight or you forgot your passport. Try to think of it like that. You never know.
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I've had this conversation quite a lot because I mean it not to get too in the weeds here or too woo-woo, but it does bring up the question of like destiny and fate and is our future predetermined?
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And I like to think no. Like I like to think that we have free will and choice, but then there's certain things that happen that make you wonder or question what is predetermined? And then it brings up the secondary conversation
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of why are some people given these messages or these signs or these delays that do end up saving them and other people don't have those.
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Yeah, I'm not sure I believe in like faded scenarios. I think it's nice to think that there is, but like um using again 9/11 horrible tragedy as an example, my mom was there the day before.
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Mhm. At the time that it happened at a meeting like super high up Yeah.
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for this charity that she worked with. So sad. And it's like it could have been the day before, but I don't believe she was saved. I don't believe that happened for her. You know, like that would be such a arrogant And
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my mom's watching. Love you, Mom. It would be so arrogant to think that like Seth MacFarlane would have been someone would have stepped in.
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Right. An entity would have stepped in to save him. Like everyone's just as deserving.
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But even like this situation or we've had stories on Two Girls One Ghost where someone's about to walk out the door and their kid who like doesn't usually throw tantrums throws like the most insane tantrum or yeah, the radio goes off or their car doesn't
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start and thank goodness all those things happened because had they been on that road this horrible car accident like pileup happened.
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Yeah. At the time that they should have been there had they not been delayed.
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Yeah. I don't know. There's a lot of questions but I do feel like there is a lot of I do believe in spirit intervention.
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But I have the question of like why why can some spirits intervene and others can't? Maybe they all try but it's only what works.
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Like I don't think everything Say they are trying to intervene to save you, not everything's going to work.
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That's true. You know, it's like it's only as receptive as you want to be to it. Like say your toast gets burnt, you're not going to some people wouldn't make another piece of toast. Some people are just going anyway. They're they're like
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I won't eat that. Like think about all the things like the opportunities you have to be late that like then you speed, right? Like Yeah.
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Yeah, cuz then there's the other conversations where it's like are you ignoring all the signs?
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Yeah. And I for sure have done that. Like I've asked my grandma for signs and then I'm like I don't know what the signs are and other people are like you idiot.
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That's the sign. What else did you need? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'm pretty ADD. I'm probably missing all the signs.
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[laughter] Like I don't think I've ever seen a sign. No. No. Yeah, but I I really do believe in that story that Ray saved.
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Not only them but also saved other people. Well, and then you hear about like how traumatized the neighborhood was because he was like that guy who helped everyone with like of course Ray saved them.
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Yeah. Like that sounds like that kind of guy he is. Yeah. Oh, I hope your grandma's okay.
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I know. What a sad sad way to lose someone. Well, that was fun. Oh my god, I loved that.
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A little like mix of true crime with the paranormal. Yeah. Sometimes the ghosts were the culprits, sometimes the ghosts were saving people.
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And we had a lot of questions. We which um I don't know. Maybe we'll never get answered until I really when I die want the answers to everything.
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Sure. But I'll keep them to myself. Why? Like if that if that's the option it's like you can learn all the secrets but you can't tell anyone.
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I just want to know. You wouldn't want to I mean I would I'm dead. Like who else am I who am I to tell?
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Your dead friends. Well, as long as they know too. Would they? I'll find the right people. I'll find the ones who know.
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people I'll be on the I like to say I'll be on Start the club.
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a part of the Grim Reaper team. Yes. Yeah. Grimming and reaping. I have a question. I feel like a question that's asked all the time is man or bear. What about human or ghost?
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What do you want ghost? What do you prefer? Yeah, ghost. Me too. Well, or I I like I like a lot of humans though.
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I Okay. But I'm it's a crap shoot. So I think ghost is always safer than random human.
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insidious human insidious human or ghost ghost ghost ghost Yeah. Even insidious human versus insidious ghost I think I would still pick insidious ghost.
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Yeah, cuz you're not going to deal with them all the time. Right. Just when they feel like flaring up.
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I would probably annoy them. Yeah. They'd leave. Yeah, they'd be like oh my god you're so annoying.
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You would get I can't deal with you. Yeah. Uh so let us know what you would pick in the comments. And then also if you have stories that relate to this theme or are just any personal true crime experience
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that you've had, bad roommates, horrible like secrets that you've learned about people that are crime related, please share these stories with us on our subreddit, which is Crimes of Pod.
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Hell yeah. And come back next week and the week after that. Forever. And the week after that.
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