Jay Widner and Ken Schwarz discuss MOXY Fusion, a low-energy metal-oxygen fusion process with potential for clean energy and material production.
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Key Takeaways
- MOXY Fusion is a reproducible low-energy fusion process involving metal and oxygen.
- The process produces new elements and isotopes, verified by spectral analysis.
- It offers potential for clean energy generation and material synthesis.
- Scientific replication by independent groups strengthens credibility.
- Despite skepticism, ongoing research and patent efforts continue.
What the video covers
- Jay Widner returns with an interview featuring Ken Schwarz, founder of Purple Power C6.
- The video explores MOXY Fusion, a low-energy metal-oxygen fusion process originally researched in the 1950s and 60s.
- MOXY Fusion involves fusing potassium or deuterium with oxygen under pressurized argon gas with electrical discharge.
- The process produces elements like potassium and fluoride 18, confirmed by multiband spectral analysis.
- MOXY Fusion differs from conventional high-energy fusion and is reproducible with potential energy and material applications.
- The team applied for a patent but faced skepticism from the patent office.
- Other research groups have independently replicated the experiments, supporting the scientific validity.
- Potential applications include producing precious metals and generating clean electricity.
- The discussion touches on broader implications for energy markets and technology costs.
- The video includes technical details, experimental setups, and references to scientific papers.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and guest introduction
- 03:03What is MOXY Fusion?
- 05:54Experimental setup and spectral analysis
- 08:49Results and independent replication
- 11:38Applications and implications for energy and materials
- 17:23Technical details and further discussion
- 20:00Broader scientific and societal context
- 24:00Closing thoughts and future outlook
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Speaker A
Hey everybody, Jay Widner, Reality Check. It's been a while. Glad to be back. A lot of stuff going on with JFK X and doing a lot of interviews and things, and finally got kind of breaking out, I guess, after a long time of nobody really paying attention to it. So anyway, that's good news, and we're back today with Ken Schwarz, of course, the founder of Purple Power C6. Great stuff if you want to get healthy and take it every day. I do.
Speaker A
after a long time of nobody really paying attention to it so anyway that's good news and uh we're back today with Ken Schwarz of course the founder of purple Power C6 uh great stuff if you want to uh get
Speaker A
[Music] It's a magical substance, super conductive, and just great stuff. Anyway, Ken, how you doing?
Speaker A
area yeah we're we're actually warm warmer right now than we were where uh the El Nino kind of comes up just brushes up against Southern Colorado a little bit and brings in some of that warm moist weird air from El Nino and so
Speaker A
Doing pretty good. It's finally above freezing here in the Denver area.
Speaker A
thing that you work on or you know about or you invented I wasn't quite sure uh Moxy yeah it's Moxy Fusion that's M oxy fusion and uh if anybody you know we'll talk about it but if anybody interested
Speaker A
Yeah, we're actually warmer right now than we were where the El Nino kind of comes up, just brushes up against Southern Colorado a little bit, and brings in some of that warm, moist, weird air from El Nino. So we have that going on, but we did get it cold. It was three below zero this morning when I woke up, so freezing cold for sure, but it's global warming anyway.
Speaker A
yeah yeah and so what the hell is it well what it is it's a uh I'm going to probably G to have to show some stuff so maybe I'll back it off there yeah C uh Moxy Fusion it was originally well
Speaker A
Hey Ken, so you're telling me about this thing that you work on or you know about or you invented. I wasn't quite sure.
Speaker A
of seeing it in the ying and the Yang and like on the one side like sodium is ying and then oxygen would be Yang or however the reverse it is what they did is they basically made what you might
Speaker A
Moxy? Yeah, it's Moxy Fusion. That's M-O-X-Y Fusion. And if anybody, you know, we'll talk about it, but if anybody's interested, just type in Oxy Fusion and then ResearchGate on Google, and it'll take you right to the paper, and you can, well, anyway, we got screen share. You can read it yourself.
Speaker A
amount of oxygen and then they turned it on and uh and what happens is of course you there was a small SPS window that you could look into it is pressurized because it's got to get pretty hot and
Speaker A
So, yeah, yeah. And so what the hell is it?
Speaker A
color and purple is the when you ionize uh in the next the atomic family it's potassium so if you actually take a look if you actually take uh pottassium which has atomic weight of 23 and you fuse it with oxygen
Speaker A
Well, what it is, it's a... I'm probably going to have to show some stuff, so maybe I'll back it off there. Yeah, C... Moxy Fusion was originally, well, the type I use was originally discovered by these two guys named Osawa and Kushi in the late 1950s and early 60s, you know, even before I was born. And they basically did a lot of research, but they were kind of seeing it in the yin and the yang, like on the one side, sodium is yin, and then oxygen would be yang, or however the reverse it is. What they did is they basically made what you might call a sodium streetlight, but they used a power supply and they made this chamber, and what they did is they filled it with argon, but they also put a little bit of sodium in and an equal amount of oxygen, and then they turned it on.
Speaker A
their Prime experiment that proved it they done a they did a lot of others that's not the only one obviously but that's the one that was kind of like the defining experiment that would prove Fusion because you know here's here is a
Speaker A
And what happens is, of course, there was a small SPS window that you could look into. It is pressurized because it's got to get pretty hot and powered and pressured in there, and you could see, of course, the kind of the yellow-orange of the sodium glow, right? We've all seen the sodium streetlights. But over several hours, that glow turned to a purple color, and purple is when you ionize, in the next atomic family, it's potassium.
Speaker A
uh we basically redid their experiment but instead of using uh and it's called metal oxy infusion that's Moxy stands for instead of using sodium which is you know sodium hydroxide is kind of corrosive and nasty to work with what we
Speaker A
So if you actually take a look, if you actually take potassium, which has an atomic weight of 23, and you fuse it with oxygen, which has an atomic weight of 16, you make potassium with an atomic weight of 39, right? And they made it actually in a really efficient manner. So they essentially were doing fusion in, in, in, and that was kind of their prime experiment that proved it. They done a, they did a lot of others. That's not the only one, obviously, but that's the one that was kind of like the defining experiment that would prove fusion because, you know, here is a, here is a, you know, sodium, oxygen, and argon, and then it turns into potassium. Well, that's pretty conclusive, and you can see it in the spectrum.
Speaker A
a multiband spectral analyzer in it and we were able to what we basically did is you turn a when you turn uum and FL and oxygen turn into fluoride 18 and then fluoride 18 would electron Decay into oxygen 18 and electron capture decay and
Speaker A
Now, we actually, I was in the right place with the right people at the right time, and we basically redid their experiment, but instead of using, and it's called metal oxy infusion. That's Moxy stands for. Instead of using sodium, which is, you know, sodium hydroxide is kind of corrosive and nasty to work with, what we did in the same atomic family is hydrogen, and we picked deuterium, which is a hydrogen atom with an extra neutron.
Speaker A
what we were doing and one of the things is metal oxygen Fusion it's uh it's totally different from the common Fusion that people know of the high energy fusion and it's kind of in that loner Zone but this is what's actually
Speaker A
And then we used oxygen in an argon pressure, in an argon atmosphere, and with electrical discharge, and we had a multiband spectral analyzer in it, and we were able to, what we basically did is you turn a deuterium and FL and oxygen turn into fluoride 18, and then fluoride 18 would electron decay into oxygen 18 and electron capture decay.
Speaker A
think 2011 and we posted our paper in one form or another it's been up on Research gate since about 2014 and so another group The Scotia group out of uh out of Scotland they were working with the University of
Speaker A
And so, and we had a multiband spectral, like 50-channel multiband spectral analyzer down at TSA Systems. It's a radiation detector, can detect 50 different layers of bands, and we could actually see the spectrum of what we were doing.
Speaker A
that baks the stuff for them but you know that's not good enough I guess okay to confirm it there but these guys they basically did the same thing except for them they didn't use a multiband spectral analyzer they use what's called
Speaker A
And one of the things is metal oxygen fusion, it's totally different from the common fusion that people know of, the high-energy fusion, and it's kind of in that low-energy zone, but this is what's actually happening in low energy, not some CU. This one is easily reproducible, and of course, we applied for a patent, and the patent office said, "Well, it's insane." We're still fighting with them.
Speaker A
appears which is proof positive this is you know totally separate we didn't have anything to do with them they just basically redid our experiments and that's what they say science is about redoing experiments well that's uh that's what they did but uh but you know
Speaker A
But in the, and we posted this happened a long time ago. I think 2011, and we posted our paper in one form or another. It's been up on ResearchGate since about 2014.
Speaker A
type it into Google and they'll bring it there so you can go along with this and see what I'm talking about let me get to page 30 and this is really one of the what this is uh this is what was done by
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And so another group, the Scotia group out of Scotland, they were working with the University of Valencia, and they basically redid our experiment.
Speaker A
things they have like the little uh that's a spectral analyzer or the results after the experiment was over and you could see the appearance of gold of renum of thulium and brillium and so they basically that's you know people always wanted to turn
Speaker A
But that was one of the things the patent office complained about: "Oh, there's no third-party verification," even though we went over to TSA Systems, their Transportation Security System that backs the stuff for them. But, you know, that's not good enough, I guess, okay, to confirm it there.
Speaker A
electron shell level as gold so you know there's there's gold there's Platinum there's renum and uh and uh but you also they produce one of the experiments they produce a little of oium and what's really interesting though in this it
Speaker A
But these guys, they basically did the same thing, except for them, they didn't use a multiband spectral analyzer. They used what's called a glass B detector, and it can detect ionizable elements like fluorine.
Speaker A
they discovered burum and burum is only created when atoms fion like in the breakdown of like uranium or plutonium or neptunium or one of those things when when they break down they one of the side products they often produce is burum in fact all burum
Speaker A
And so they basically put it in there. You got oxygen, you got deuterium, you've got your argon pressurized gas. They turn it on, and all of a sudden, fluoride appears, which is proof positive. This is, you know, totally separate. We didn't have anything to do with them. They just basically redid our experiments, and that's what they say science is about: redoing experiments.
Speaker A
yeah it has to break things apart and then there's also Thum which has a lower Atomic level than uh than tungsten so not only we were getting Fusion we were getting like a fusion fision where the tungsten was breaking down and producing
Speaker A
Well, that's what they did. But, you know, the thing when I did the paper, the paper has like seven examples of other people, other people doing it. And I think the best one is if you go up there, Moxy Fusion ResearchGate, just type it into Google, and they'll bring it there, so you can go along with this and see what I'm talking about.
Speaker A
produce gold and renum and an accidental uh afterthought of the process yes but everyone was that there was another guy named Dr Bass and what he was doing he was it's on page the last second to last page whatever it was
Speaker A
Let me get to page 30, and this is really one of the, what this is, this is what was done by, in 2004, a couple of guys, Nam Selio and Yoro, were, they basically were using tungsten. Tungsten, you guys could see it, of course. They were using tungsten electrodes in like electrolytic sing, and if you can see here on the things, they have like the little, that's a spectral analyzer or the results after the experiment was over, and you could see the appearance of gold, of rhenium, of thulium, and beryllium.
Speaker A
tenth of a gram of thorium and you and with 300 watts he could break it down into isotopes of tin and copper kind of unique Isotopes Isotopes by the way are they have the same proton number but different numbers of neutrons for the
Speaker A
And so they basically, that's, you know, people always wanted to turn base metals into gold. Well, here it is. They turn tungsten oxide, which into basically gold. But tungsten comes in four different isotopes, so they produced, they produce like rhenium, which is also like in the same F, it's in the same L electron shell level as gold.
Speaker A
gas which he was breathing during the experiments which is why he's the late doctor wow so then you're actually you with this process you're actually creating rare Metals yes and there's another process that uh that you can actually
Speaker A
So, you know, there's gold, there's platinum, there's rhenium, and, but you also, they produce one of the experiments, they produce a little of osmium. And what's really interesting though in this, it would build it up, they put the oxygen onto the tungsten, but it's unstable. The daughter product's unstable, so it decays back into gold or these other forms.
Speaker A
about 50 cents and you can fuse it into pretty much all the Platinum Group metals and uh for and if you if you do the the the energy cost value uh it's about $60 an ounce to produce gold or platinum
Speaker A
And also, but what's interesting, they also discovered barium, and barium is only created when atoms fission, like in the breakdown of uranium or plutonium or neptunium or one of those things. When they break down, one of the side products they often produce is barium. In fact, all barium produced in the universe comes from fission reactions. None is pro-
Speaker A
it $2,000 an ounce for gold right now yep let's just let's just say in some far way there's at least there's at least a half a dozen major countries that are uh Asian doing doing this right now and uh and some are perhaps even
Speaker A
imagining producing kilograms of gold and platinum group Metals every week well that would have a severe effect on the markets sure well yes it's uh basically yeah especially you know the machines are really expensive now but that comes down the input pots costs
Speaker A
aren't going to go up so uh yeah that's a uh significant change in the way things are going to go coming up here how how much does one of these cost these machines well it matters I mean you could make people could make one of
Speaker A
their own uh you basically all you need is the power supply from like well those sodium Street lamps and they've replaced them all with uh with the LED lamps so you can just there's Warehouse is full of these power
Speaker A
supplies you can get for cheap and basically you just have a have a chamber and uh probably stainless steel maybe put ceramic sleeve in it and then get a graphite what you want to do is you want to get a graphite uh Crucible you can
Speaker A
cut it out which is graphitees a form of carbon but it's electrically conductive you put the anode on the bottom the cathode on the top and you discharge and and you pressurize it with about 10 atmospheres of uh argon and then you
Speaker A
just zap the hell out of it and uh and and it happens what's really happening is you're when you're making these pulses of electricity you're making what what they call solons which is an electron smoke ring and and
Speaker A
so like even in the core of the densest star in our universe there is it's there's always like one proton for every one electron right and a proton weigh 1,800 and 30 times 32 times that of the electron right well in a in these solons
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these uh these electric smoke rings the weight of the electrons is often over the weight of the Barons of the protons and neutrons in that and that creates a form of super degenerative matter which lowers the colum barrier the barrier
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takes to fuse stuff together millions of times now your energy output is lower but it's easier it's millions of times easier to do yeah your energy outputs maybe 150th right but if you make it millions of times easier to do well it
Speaker A
comes out in the wash and uh and so this is easy to do I mean we literally did it in our basement and but it's dangerous and that's that's like for instance that's uh because what happens is a lot
Speaker A
of uh you remember uh fleshman and ponds right Flashman and ponds yeah they were they were doing the the essentially they were doing Moxy but they didn't understand what they were doing and people couldn't repeat it C Fusion for
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those to do yeah exactly cold fusion yeah uh they can repeat this because once you know what you're doing you understand it's metal oxygen Fusion anybody out there can do it they've already done it there's countries all over the world doing it they're making
Speaker A
you know kilograms of precious metals every weak so it's not like it isn't easy to do and uh and so my thing was to make electricity you can basically basically the most energy production best is with oxygen and uum that
Speaker A
produces the most energy release and so the you boil water run Steam turbines you got electricity that's and I just that was why I proved that process because that is technically the mo and heavy water is everywhere right heavy
Speaker A
water is everywhere and oxygen the Argon which is the moderator that's like 0.9% of the atmosphere so this is it's not only the ability to make all of these precious metals for relatively inexpensive it's also decentralized energy production where you don't need a
Speaker A
coal mine you've got water you've got air you've got energy okay for uh for a Layman um I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as magic so how in the world can you take the starter chemicals and have it
Speaker A
turn into precious metals okay oh what you you you do is you just take the you have to get the right ones like for what these guys uh um let me say his name right because uh sedelo and yoro they
Speaker A
just basically were using tungsten oxide in this they were using tungsten the oxide the actual guy that discovered it was a guy named Ken shoulders Dr Ken shoulders and he was making these patons and firing them across like a vacuum
Speaker A
chamber and he would he' fired at this aluminum plate and right it punch holes in it and that was kind of cool but nothing happened until one day he put in an aluminum plate that had been lying around right and it had put an oxygen
Speaker A
layer on it and so when he punched the uh he punched the solons into the aluminum oxide layer and then they used X-ray spe spoopy to look at what the elements were there he found Elements which you would get if you fused
Speaker A
aluminum with oxygen so Ken shoulders is kind of the guy that broke it that this aluminum oxygen that's what happens with flesh Flashman and ponds when you take unfortunately for them when you take let's say platinum or pelium and you fuse it with
Speaker A
oxygen you make unfortunately for him radon gas oh no uh with the platinum and oxygen makes radon gas and with the padium or padium and oxygen it makes uh it makes a a radioactive xenon gas and me so fleshman and pwns were sucking
Speaker A
this stuff up while oh yeah that's no what what happened is when it came out like uh I think pwns went back to France because he was a french guy and they just abused those two guys just brutally
Speaker A
oh they did said screw this he's back in France well FL when he was an American right he couldn't go anywhere so this is an example so this was actually discovered by another researcher who was doing one of those electrolytic Flashman
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pawns type SK things so what he did is uh you probably in the base in your basement you probably like if you're out of a basement you can do the radon test oh inside that in that radon can you get
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where you open it up there's this little p34 it's like a it's a plastic resin in there and and when an alpha particle the radon it's radioactive and it kicks out an alpha particle and if that alpha particle hits the resin it it puts a
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weakness in it and then you take that they take that little chip it's a tiny really really tiny and you put it in in hot sodium hydroxide and it etches out a pit and so this is what this guy did he
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only rent it for a few hours and like here's an example of of what the uh what the chip looked like before he put it in and you can see there's like one or two little holes there right yeah so that's
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the ra okay after a you know bunch of hours of running the chip that's what the chip looks like all those little pits those are all hits from raon that's an alpha particle from radon so basically unfortunately for flashmen who
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caught cancer died he was uh basically imagine being you know in the worst a thousand times the worst radon basement you could imagine and the other thing about Metal oxygen infusion because it lowers the colon barrier it also lowers
Speaker A
the energy at which uh the daughter molecules that you make emit energies so instead of emitting in the gamma ray band which you use a guer counter to detect it emits in the X-ray band so you don't so these guys are walk rocking
Speaker A
around with a Geer counter looking for gamma rays all the times they were cooking them with the uh and that's actually cooking themselves with x-rays and that's actually how we proved our experiment is the first proof of it
Speaker A
besides the spectral band analyzer which we did later uh you know for the other one is we basically when we didn't have everything right we used dental x-ray plays because uh my friend Gary Rodriguez who was electrical engineer
Speaker A
his his brother was a dentist so we borrowed his Dental X-ray ples and on the top you see when we didn't have everything right the plate is white right there's no x-rays but on the bottom is the black plate and that's
Speaker A
only like after a couple minutes of running the thing that plate is totally saturated which is actually why I I used found out about C60 because I figured this was going on and I wanted to get an extra radiation protectant for for you
Speaker A
know my crew in myth and so I discovered this stuff called carbon 60 you know gave one set of rats got carbon60 the other didn't the control group didn't they hit them with a fatal dose of radiation the C60 rats live where the uh
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where the control group died and so I said that stuff's for me so I got a couple of sources for my crew and myself and we took it and of course just to finish up the C60 story I the experiment
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was fine everything was great I kept using C60 because I got better metal Clarity more energy uh you know I just felt better and then about seven months later I went into to see my eye doctor and my Drews or dry macular degeneration
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was completely healed and then then when I learned about that my friend Gary Rodriguez he was electrical engine he had developed severe wet macular degeneration because he had uh he had uh he had uh type two diabetes which kind
Speaker A
of goes they go together so I made a uh a preparation of C60 and MCT coconut oil because medium chain triglycerides they're carbon six carbon 10 to carbonates they they can be turned by your liver into ketones really quickly
Speaker A
and if you got a glucose processing issue you want to take ketones and so he took a tablespoon a day for a year and his severe wet macular degeneration went completely away and I used to be able to
Speaker A
post online the before and after pictures of his inside of his eyeballs but some three-letter agency said oh that's making a claim so yeah you can't do you have to go to private seminars to see those well I know this I had
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um when I started taking the C60 which is about regularly which has been about four years now I was wearing 2.5 glasses to read and now I'm back to two so oh yeah um I have had an impr and I noticed
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it and I was trying to figure out what it was I was saying oh maybe you know was there something I changed in my diet or but now that I'm thinking about it happened just at that same time that I
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start about six months after I started taking the purple Power I started uh getting better eyesight which is pretty good only have two two uh power of two glasses you know now you know the the carbon 60 you know it's also made in
Speaker A
like the burnt Wick of candles are like 0.25% and it's a black substance that increases longevity and uh and mental Clarity almost sounds like that that uh that little uh philosopher stone to me you know that's interesting you say that
Speaker A
because um I was doing a study of uh plasma last week and um this scientist was describing what happens when you light a candle and how the wick um causes uh the plasma which is the flame and it went through the whole
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thing and how important the wick was to the plasma discharge right and I'm just wondering if C60 you know it isn't somehow associated with some kind of plasma discharge well that's actually where it's made it's made in the atmospheres
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of giant red stars for most of the universe and giant red stars by the way they're stars like our sun which burn out of run out of hydrogen so now helium's fusing into carbon so they're very carbon rich and as the atmosphere
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bubbles out with all the electrical discharges into space maybe about 0.1% of that carbon turns into carbon 60 so it's that so yeah there is something to do with plasma discharges because it's it's made in the atmospheres of giant
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red stars so yes that's where C60 comes from that's really really and whether it's a candle or a giant star it's you know the same process yeah very interesting so so can people you you people can make these
Speaker A
Moxy generators or Machin oh yeah we actually built a bunch of them they're little little tiny demo ones we've been giving them away to well we've been sharing them with uh institutions and governments who here here's here's a
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working it's not like the other said oh we can't get we can send you we send them a four working little tiny Fusion reactor just makes a little tiny Fusion flame right just a tiny it's like a fusion candle but that's all you need
Speaker A
you get 10,000 candles you can boil a you can boil water and uh it's uh so it's it's and it's it's easy to do it's really easy to do and uh and it's all over this is this cat is out of the bag
Speaker A
the hores left the barn for all of you suppressors of information there you know you guys you guys are way behind you wouldn't even approve our patent let me tell you all those Advanced nations in Asia they are so far ahead of you right now
Speaker A
that when finally you know your horse is still in the stall and they're they have they're finishing they're on the the winning track of the racetrack so well let's get let's get it going here in this country um uh so you're gonna give
Speaker A
me links right to people who can get these papers oh yeah yeah we'll give you links yeah I sent that link up yeah we could put some links in there and actually I went on Jeff Ren and and did
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like a whole hour on describing how to do it and things and and what you get here and it links you all the papers and the other thing is you know Stanley Meyer I had a friend who knew Stanley
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Meyer and uh and he uh you know Stanley was very secretive and he wouldn't tell anybody what's doing but the only time his his uh his dune buggy was over o was over Unity is when he used heavy water
Speaker A
detarium oxide and the noncombustible gas was Argon so it appears that everybody remind everybody who he is again yes dley Meyer was this guy back in the 70s mostly that's when people know of and he actually created this this car that that
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on times was overunity that means basically here we got this dune buggy it's got one little battery to run it they start it and it runs and they had third- party observers watch this right this isn't just some dude making a CL is
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is when you produce more power than you're taking in yeah exactly so he's driving this car it's running off quote water it's electrolyzing water into consents putting it into the combustions where it recombines and it was actually producing more energy than came out but
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uh but one of the things is see we know what Stanley was doing because like normally when you the way you get heavy water is you use electrolysis and the hydrogen comes out and the oxygen comes out but the duum stays behind and so if
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I did like 7,000 gallons of regular water I would end up with one gallon of heavy water so you can't use electrolysis normally to do that but what Stanley did he made inject he made these fuel injectors so he could
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inject the heavy water directly into there was like a little tube with a little wire in it and so the water would go in there and then he'd hit it with a blast of electricity and it would totally uh electroly it back into oxygen
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and hydrogen and that would inject into the cylinder and of course the cylinder was full of argon gas and then it burned over so literally Stanley Meyer turned a uh a flathead VW engine into a Moxy Fusion reactor and was driving it around
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is an overunity vehicle so if you any of the Stanley Meyer fans who have your working things there it is get your Argon gas you can get that down at the gas plant you can buy heavy water for a
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dollar gram from you know online and uh away you go so you turn your turn your little Stanley Meer imitator car into or your electrolysis car into a Moxy fusion reaction but be careful it makes a lot of x-rays so I suggest you buy some C60
Speaker A
to protect yourself against any any of those extra X-rays and don't forget and and dental aprons or whatever yes Dental aprons like that for the to protect those other important parts yes extremely important so would you recommend someone do this uh well I
Speaker A
couldn't well you know they can I mean it's there's nothing to stop them I mean with the links that we have with what I've talked about listen to the rent show read the paper if you've got you know if you're decent you got electrical
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engineer guy and auto guy or basically fabri guy you can do it yourself you don't need me it's and see it's this is all decentralized anybody anywhere I mean in the world could you know with the reasonable intelligent people can
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redo this and and it's already out there it's been I mean tens of thousands of people have downloaded the paper and all the other stuff so this is this is and there's no way they can stop it so I
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could power my ranch with the potentially yeah you could power your Ranch yeah you just get heavy water and argon and uh a special generator and yeah you could uh various different ways you could power your Ranch amazing or
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you could fuse you could get zirconium oxide powder you can buy that stuff zirconium haum oxide powder from China for $50 a 50 cents a pound and uh argon you get that the air and there you go turn it into gold for 50 cents it's like
Speaker A
you know Rumple stil skin is my name so you're powering up your house and you're getting gold well that would be a different thing I don't know how much power you get but what's interesting Dr Bass was getting he could
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take like right now when you do uh you do fision you use burn uranium you can he you would you get you know maybe you half a percent of or 6% of the uranium they pull out of the ground is uranium
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235 and that's what they use in reactors and stuff but with Moxy you can burn 100% of the uranium 100% of the thorium the plutonium the cesium that's one of the things is to break down Atomic waste so you can burn it into nonradioactive
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non-radioactive Metals which are useful and a short-term radioactive gas which then becomes non-radioactive so we can take we can either you can take Atomic waste and completely neutralize the radioactivity and release a lot of heat and run an electrical generator off that
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done I mean this is pretty amazing well I don't know it's it may be doing I mean I don't know what all those countries are researching it but you know I'm sorry about the the the five eyes countries the six eyes countries lost
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the dropped the ball on this one because everybody it was actually a a featured Topic in South Africa at the bricks meeting in one of the side rooms really that's pretty yeah so they all know it they all
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got it so this is going to be emerging technology then yeah it's it's everywhere pretty much everybody in the bricks has it and every one of be bricks countries has it if they want to they can do it part of the great
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decentralization that's happening so um that's interesting that's really interesting so we can get rid of all the solar panels and the hydroelectric Dam and well yeah but mostly you'll get rid of you know coal powered fire plants and
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vision P plant power plants and it's it's very decentralized because all you really need you know heavy water is anywhere in fact that's the that's going to be the new uh Crypt my my the new type of currency it's going to be called
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a Duo and it's one cubic gram one cubic centimeter which is a little bit over a gram of uh heavy water and because heavy water is denser than regular water you can use like a hydrometer for like Brewing you know when you brew beer you
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put more sugar it makes it denser so you can use a hydrometer to uh to uh see the quality of your heavy water and then you go down to the heavy water bank and they'll like you can make heavy water
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through electrolysis and a fuel cell cycling so you can just take water make turn it into heavy water which is a fuel then you can take that fuel down to the detarium bank and they'll look at it see
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quality and then they'll issue you electronically to turos which then you can take down and buy stuff with and and you can go anywhere in the world and if you have detos you can go to the local heavy water bank and pull some heavy
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water out to run your car or power your house or do whatever so the things that you need to run your uh your uh device are easy to be found they're not heavy water about one out of 7,000 molecules of car of
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hydrogen is a uh is a detarium and argon's 0.9% of the atmosphere and oxygen well well that's in the heavy water we got plenty of that oxygen 18 Burns a little bit better than oxygen 16 but still you get that that also gets
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concentrated in the heavy water so yeah so this is uh I mean it's like decentralized energy and and you can take it and what's really good is there's like a lot of those rare earth metals and other metals like we could do
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Moxy on uh you could do like there're always the Chinese cut America off from gallium and uh geranium right well you could take Moxy and use iron or maybe nickel and you can or Chrome and you can actually use Moxy and synthesize those
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so you don't need we don't need your Chinese geranium and and uh and gallium we could and uh what is it the we can we can just do it ourselves and so um nothing that you're saying is all that complicated we know
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know that they have the Baghdad battery um so they we know they were generating electricity back 200 3,000 years ago um what would stop like somebody from say you know I don't know the Middle East from 2 200 years ago
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could they actually if they had access to electricity could they actually do this well I don't I don't know probably well they had but you know I know like the round heads U I don't know if those people never heard about uh remember
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that mass contacts I think we had a thing on this once about yeah that stepo breter writes about say Bruno they had this contact with these aliens quote aliens but they're really old yeah but they yeah but that's but they paid they
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were paying their little human flunkies to go do various things for them in Platinum one oce platinums and so but you know they could just you know it's just kind of like the Indians they bought Manhattan for $22 of beads yeah
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you know they could just these guys you could just get some basically some beach sand from granitic hills and turn into Platinum Group metals and go do it so I mean that's why I wonder about you know did the anunaki really need I mean if
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you can synthesize gold so easily why do you have a Min it it's a good point or the maybe the anaki weren't that smart maybe they hadn't figured it out yet I don't know yeah sorry no I'm not buying that one oh
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anyway it's figured out now it's out there and people are doing it all over the world so that's uh and you know and we really have to say thank osawa and Kushi which showed us the very best way
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to do it well I encourage people to do it and to pursue it then let us know what's going on because um I'd like to hear uh what what uh what happens with all of this and I might even get a group
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here where I live and examine some of this because uh wow electricity they're shutting off all the coal power plants in Colorado I think this year 24 is the last year um that we will have it um I
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don't know if they're going to tear him down or keep them in reserve uh in case they need them I hope that's what they do well that's just that's it's insane that's insane that's insane one hail storm hit
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Nebraska two and a half weeks ago and destroyed 16 square miles of solar panels right yeah yes so I mean we have it here in Southern Colorado we're all solar paneled out we get gigantic hail storms here in the summer so I don't know you
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know no there's I'm that's what really why I had you on because you know we go it we the smart people among us have to start figuring out the way to decent centralized on every level because it's just going to get very very serious and
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with the number of people pouring into the country right now um things are going to get very dangerous and oh yeah they these are third yeah they're third but they're the criminals and the underclass of uh the drags of society
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are Rush pushing in here that's why they're coming here and then they're just and then they're they're subsidizing them but when the blank hits the fan those subsidies will disappear along with plastic in your wallet and then it'll be Mayhem and Chaos from sea
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to shining sea and um I mean people don't want to bring this up but if I was a a poor dictator in a south or Central American country and all of this stuff was going on right now I'd let everybody
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out of my jails why should I oh yeah and ship them ship them ship them South right into ship them North right to United States and all of a sudden you got the worst hardened criminals from around the world by the millions in your
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country yeah which is by Design so that would be the uh I wonder why the uh Elohim want our country destroyed it's very strange but well I mean look look at the uh the the right and that's uh those uh you
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know it's been traced back to the Department of Defense so the dod was actually 100% behind that all right but I don't know if we can say anything absolutely close to no but let's talk about something that we I think we can talk about uh
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without causing too many problems and everybody I'm going to put the links to The Moxy stuff I want you guys to do that it's really important but um they did uh um the one thing that they can uh
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keep track of probably better than anything else in statistics is on births and deaths and uh pretty much every country keeps pretty good statistics outside of China and um they keep good statistics too they just don't tell us
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yes so you can actually access all of this it's called Uh all causal death all causal mortality and it's you can go on the internet and you can look and check every state how many people died in say
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1975 where they died what county how many died right this is a this is a well-known thing all right and so you can go through and you can make a graph and you can look at spikes so you can
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say okay let's look at 1995 uh Florida uh all cause mortality and you lay out your graph and you see oh my God in August there was a big spike uh 380 people there was a 300% increase in in deaths in in the third
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week of of August right and then you look and you see oh there was a hurricane that hit Florida so there's a cause behind the spikes is what I'm trying to get to oh yeah always so you you can go back through these statistics
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and see and you can learn a lot you know tornadoes you have spikes and um diseases starvation in in third world countries cause spikes uh droughts um this is a well-known science right every single spike in the all cause mortality
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statistics can be explained except for one yeah the one that happened in June of 2021 and by the way there was no rise in all cause mortality in 2020 anywhere on Earth that's right flat it was like there was no Pro
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nothing happening at all nothing like it really wasn't really something no it was it's very odd and then in June 2021 uh all cause mortality begins to be a spike that would be attributed to World War II yeah oh yeah and it's I was
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looking at the you know they talk came out with some Australian stats yeah and they were saying I think it's either the first or second cause of death now is unknown in Australia and before it was like number 15 and so like one or two
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the main leading cause of death in Australia is unknown uh actually I think it is known but they just don't to say What It Is Well yeah and I've also noticed that um uh there's a lot of people dying right now of course oh huge
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I me so many people I mean I know I could count at least a dozen people that I know in extended things that have gone prematurely my little small town every week there's another poster up with another one and they're not old a lot of
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them are regular 40 year olds and things like that and um and I've noticed that uh May because I live in a poorer place but but looks like they're not really doing autopsies on a lot of these people
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anymore um I think I guess that's not required anymore because they really just kind of ride off the death and you and you try to find out what C what the cause was and there is no cause they
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don't really ever really tell you the obituary or you know anywhere and I'm like okay so they're not even bothering anymore they're just like oh they died that's it let's go next you know and I don't know yeah then like a lot of the
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actuaries for insurance companies you know they have to keep really good stats because they're paying the bills and they've have I think what was the guy saying it's like a uh the the variance off of what it used to be is like a
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Sigma 14 or something event some insane insane level and but actually if you look at the those insurance companies they have really tight margins they do and Bally what's happening is going to cause the collapse of the insurance
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industry the the de the life insurance industry I should say uh I'm G to say all insurance companies because they're all interchanged and interlocked yeah they are one starts going they start pulling all the other ones down and you
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know I'm I'm actually hearing from actuaries who by the way are very worried about losing all their jobs to AI um actuar is telling me that um uh house insurance could be like $3,000 a month in the future yeah that would just
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totally destroy it because if you don't have insurance you can't have a mortgage but yep it would be yeah yeah so they all cause mortality statistics are really a cause for concern but um nobody's reporting it in any major media um in other words what
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I'm trying to say and then I'm I'm close out here is that these statistics show that since June of 2021 tell now we have had a rise and a spike in mortality akin to the Spanish flu outbreak and World War II in other words
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the two biggest spikes of the 20th century happened in June 2021 with no um visible cause and it's going it's still going on that's right it's not it's not going down know what happened in June 2021 that caused this to happen and uh
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and it's the greatest mystery probably maybe even in history um you know and so it's it's something that we all need to think about and talk about I think yeah it's just you know one of those things right in your face and that's not the
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only one that's for sure no and you know and and and if there's any um investigative journalists out there this is a great story to look into we got to find out why why this is going on and
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and and reported because it's you know it's it's still going and it's it's really a really important story and nobody's asking why this is happening and we're all losing friends and family so it's a concern to all of
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us all right Ken I'm gonna go now and I want everyone to look at the links I'm going to put them below how we can get this Moxy thing going and get a a revolution in energy which is the whole
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reason I'm doing this show uh going because it's time for the great um the the great uh decentralization of the world and um you know and I feel sorry for the people that are getting trapped in the cities
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right now because they're going to um what's going to happen here is with the hiring practices that are going on now some body is going to pull the wrong switch somewhere somehow and it's going to cause a gigantic disaster I have no
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idea what switch it's going to be pulled how it's going to happen I can only tell you that somebody somewhere is going to pull the wrong switch here soon because they're not qualified for the job that they're doing and be careful where you sit in
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the airplane I'm not all right Ken thanks for coming on I'm Jay Widner reality check thanks for watching and I'll be back with another show I hope soon
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