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Welcome to the Typical Sportsman podcast. I've got Mr. Buck Steel, owner of Anooic Suppressors on, and he is going to give you a full and complete breakdown on suppressors from the ground up.
Buck Steel of Anooic Suppressors breaks down suppressors, their materials, performance, and benefits in this Typical Sportsman podcast episode.
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Key Takeaways
- Suppressors use various metals like aluminum and stainless steel, each affecting performance differently.
- Sound reduction and recoil mitigation depend on suppressor design and ammunition used.
- Legal and market changes have significantly reduced wait times for suppressor purchases.
- Proper maintenance and checking suppressor fit are crucial for safe and effective use.
- Additional hunting gear such as chronographs and GPS wearables complement the shooting experience.
What the video covers
- Buck Steel, owner of Anooic Suppressors, provides a comprehensive overview of suppressors, including materials, design, and performance.
- The episode explains different metals used in suppressors and how they affect weight, durability, and sound reduction.
- Listeners learn about how suppressors reduce recoil and change the shooting experience of rifles.
- Buck shares insights on the sound dynamics inside suppressors, including the effect of unburnt powder and gas pressure.
- The discussion covers legal and industry changes, such as tax stamps and wait times for suppressor purchases.
- Buck highlights the importance of checking suppressor tightness after initial shots for safety and performance.
- The podcast includes information on related gear like chronographs and Garmin wearables for hunters.
- Buck also shares videos and anecdotes about animals’ reactions downrange when suppressors are used.
- The episode is sponsored by Blocker, a brand specializing in turkey hunting apparel.
- Overall, the episode is educational for both new and experienced suppressor users.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Overview of Suppressors with Buck Steel
- 04:01Chronograph Features and Benefits
- 08:05Suppressor Internal Design and Materials
- 17:12Suppressor Performance and Sound Reduction
- 26:00Legal Aspects and Market Changes in Suppressor Industry
- 30:36Metals Used in Suppressors and Their Properties
- 50:12Suppressor Maintenance and Safety Tips
- 62:33Summary and Additional Hunting Gear Recommendations
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suppressor, but you've considered it, first off, there's no better time than right now. But this is going to be a really good place for you to start. You can understand the different metals. You can understand the different materials
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So, if you've never owned a suppressor, but you've considered it, first off, there's no better time than right now. But this is going to be a really good place for you to start. You can understand the different metals. You can understand the different materials
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suppressors, this is your starting point. Or maybe you've had some experience with different types of suppressors and you wonder why some work differently and some perform different or better or worse than others. This is going to help you wrap your mind around
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and types. You can understand the different weights and the way they're going to reduce sound, the way they're going to reduce recoil, the way they're going to change the shooting experience of a rifle. So, if you are looking into
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He's also going to share some really cool videos about animals downranges. Guys, this is a fun episode and it's brought to you by my friends over at Blocker. I am absolutely getting fired up for turkey season. However, speaking
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suppressors, this is your starting point. Or maybe you've had some experience with different types of suppressors and you wonder why some work differently and some perform different or better or worse than others. This is going to help you wrap your mind around
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They're probably the king of turkey hunting apparel. Let's just be honest. And you can fully outfit yourself without breaking the bank. They also make it in the world's best pattern, bottomland. Guys, as you gear up for turkey season, some of you are already
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maybe why that is. It is a very good episode. He's going to go through different percentages of things that you can expect to find when you get a suppressor, what the animal downrange experiences when you get a suppressor.
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year, they've got you covered. Let's jump in with Mr. Buck Steel and talk suppressors.
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He's also going to share some really cool videos about animals downrange. Guys, this is a fun episode and it's brought to you by my friends over at Blocker. I am absolutely getting fired up for turkey season. However, speaking
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Let me talk to you about a company that you all know that I love dearly, and that's Garmin. I love them because I use it every single day. It's here on my wrist. The Garmin wearables are incredible. I've talked about them a
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of suppressors, I'm coming off of coyote season, coyote hunting time. Blocker makes really good gear for both my predator hunting and turkey hunting.
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country for navigation and to stay connected with my kids and my wife back home. However, it's also used in the gym to track my workouts. It's used at night to track my sleep. It's used in the office to get my smart notifications or
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They're probably the king of turkey hunting apparel. Let's just be honest. And you can fully outfit yourself without breaking the bank. They also make it in the world's best pattern, Bottomland. Guys, as you gear up for turkey season, some of you are already
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listen to her music while she's riding her bike or on a run. They make incredible watches. And the coolest part, they make incredible watches to fit any budget. If you're looking for an incredibly rugged backcountry watch, go with the Instinct and you don't have to
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out in the woods getting covered in ticks. Lucky you. As you gear up for turkey season, make sure and go check out Blocker. I promise you, you will be glad you did. And no matter what it is you're needing for turkey season this
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flashlight. Check that out. Built-in flashlight, built-in applied ballistics. Incredible GPS mapping on it. They make a watch for everyone in every budget.
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year, they've got you covered. Let's jump in with Mr. Buck Steel and talk suppressors.
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can't take up a lot of room with a chronograph. So, the C2 is perfect because it is so small. However, it is a source that I can trust. It builds on the success of its predecessor with faster shot processing and improved
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I've got kids and when they see dad shooting his bow over the chronograph and finding out how fast his arrow is flying, they want to fling their little arrows over it and see how fast their bow is flying. Guess what? It measures
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Let me talk to you about a company that you all know that I love dearly, and that's Garmin. I love them because I use it every single day. It's here on my wrist. The Garmin wearables are incredible. I've talked about them a
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was just talking about, which again is really cool. Also, it's got rifle mounted solutions, so I can mount that right to my rifle and start measuring those speeds. It can also track up to 10 shots per second, which is insane, with
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ton. However, I also want to talk to you about a couple new products that they just have released. But starting with the wearables, here's what I love most about Garmin. They make incredible wearables that I can rely on in the back
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when making that shot. And when that moment counts, a good range matters. However, this goes further than just being a good rangefinder. and it really rises above the rest because I'm not only going to see my target through
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country for navigation and to stay connected with my kids and my wife back home. However, it's also used in the gym to track my workouts. It's used at night to track my sleep. It's used in the office to get my smart notifications or
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navigation inside of that rangefinder to help me get to where I just ranged that elk at. Another thing that I think is important, uh, a lot of times on my elk hunts, you can see your camp from where
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just answer my phone on it if I need to. It is an incredible smartwatch that's purpose-built for the backcountry. But they also make great everyday wearables for my wife to be able to track her fitness, her sleep, get her smart notifications,
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navigate back to camp. Guys, it is an incredible new rangefinder from Garmin. I would highly encourage you to check out the new rangefinder, check out the new chronograph, and if you're not wearing a Garmin wearable, what is wrong
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listen to her music while she's riding her bike or on a run. They make incredible watches. And the coolest part, they make incredible watches to fit any budget. If you're looking for an incredibly rugged backcountry watch, go with the Instinct and you don't have to
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no offsite off offline maps for me in the back country. This thing lasts for 15, 16 days usually for everyday use.
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spend a ton of money to have an incredible backcountry navigation watch that's still also going to function as a smartwatch for your everyday life. Or you can go up to something like the Tactics 8 that has the built-in
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All right, Mr. Buck Steel, not only one of the coolest names in the industry, I mean, let's just be honest, but also producing some of the baddest equipment in the industry. Um, and I got connected with you through a mutual friend.
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flashlight. Check that out. Built-in flashlight, built-in applied ballistics. Incredible GPS mapping on it. They make a watch for everyone in every budget.
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We elk hunt a lot together, bear hunt a lot together, have a lot of good times together on the mountains.
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That's the coolest part about Garmin. However, let me talk to you about a couple new products they've just released. The new C2 chronograph is incredible. I've got a little, a little shop here, a little bow shop here, and I
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Yeah. Yeah. And I I'm actually uh gearing up. I'll be heading that way here in May to go go kill some more spring bears. So, one of my favorite places on planet Earth. And uh Ace Outfitters, just a phenomenal phenomenal
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can't take up a lot of room with a chronograph. So, the C2 is perfect because it is so small. However, it is a source that I can trust. It builds on the success of its predecessor with faster shot processing and improved
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And he told me that you know, hey, Anakoic is making some of the best suppressors in the industry. So I am excited to learn the the well, let's just be honest, the basics of suppressors. Um, everyone that listens to this show knows
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features for an experience in a chronograph that you won't find anywhere else. I can promise you that. The coolest part is that it can measure speeds from 100 feet per second all the way up to 5,000 feet per second. Listen,
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past. Uh but it was always just you know on a pig hunt or something and a buddy hands me one that's suppressed and you shoot it and and honestly when you're when you're running and gunning like that you really don't get time to stop
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I've got kids and when they see dad shooting his bow over the chronograph and finding out how fast his arrow is flying, they want to fling their little arrows over it and see how fast their bow is flying. Guess what? It measures
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this first suppressor, I really wanted to see from start to finish when I'm setting up a rifle, how big of a difference does it truly make?
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those, which is incredibly cool that my kids get to be involved with that process of setting up their bows. And it is compact designed, so much so that it can even fit in your pocket. You can view the data on those smart watches I
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Yeah. Yeah. A and again, maybe maybe it's just because I didn't I didn't really know how big of a difference it made. I didn't even know, you know, it wasn't like they handed me the gun and said, "Hey, this is a 65 Creedomor and
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was just talking about, which again is really cool. Also, it's got rifle mounted solutions, so I can mount that right to my rifle and start measuring those speeds. It can also track up to 10 shots per second, which is insane, with
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setting up a just so everybody knows kind of my current setup that I'm dealing with. I got a Ruger American Gen 2 and a six Creedmore and it's going to be a new coyote gun. Uh, I put the anoic
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rapid fire support. Now, let's talk about one of the newest, coolest products that Garmin has ever released, and that's the new L60 laser rangefinder. Rangefinders are vitally important for bow hunters and for rifle hunters. You have to have an exact range
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Anakoic. Uh if nobody's ever heard the name, where did you start? How'd you get there? All that fun stuff.
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when making that shot. And when that moment counts, a good range matters. However, this goes further than just being a good rangefinder. And it really rises above the rest because I'm not only going to see my target through
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was a Navy fighter pilot and I and then a nuclear missile physicist. So I followed in his footsteps an aerospace engineer and spent most of my career at the Lockheed Skunk Works in California doing advanced conceptual design on
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premium glass with a high resolution graphic overlay, but inside of that, it's also going to display mapping and navigation for a more user-friendly immersive visual experience. So, if I range an elk across the mountain, I can now use the
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ago, and and uh realized that we needed to write a computer code to characterize the inlet flow on this jet. And uh and after we had done it, we realized that the code that we just wrote was the
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navigation inside of that rangefinder to help me get to where I just ranged that elk at. Another thing that I think is important, a lot of times on my elk hunts, you can see your camp from where
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And and uh uh we used that code to settle an argument that we had of, you know, what was the quietest internal design? the flat baffles, K baffles, conicle baffles, and all of that kind of stuff. More baffles, less baffles,
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you're at. It might be a couple miles away, but once you get up to a peak and you're looking for bulls, you can see back down to your camp, hit the range on that camp, and then it will help me
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and that's what should the inside of a suppressor look like? you know, given that it's it's this big and we want it to be super light and as quiet as we can. And we ran our software and and
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navigate back to camp. Guys, it is an incredible new rangefinder from Garmin. I would highly encourage you to check out the new rangefinder, check out the new chronograph, and if you're not wearing a Garmin wearable, what is wrong
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kind of recreate that classified software that that me and four other guys created back 25 years ago. and that I needed to recreate the thermodynamics and viro acoustics and aerero elastics of what was modeled, the physics that were modeled in that software and and
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with you? If you've got an Apple Watch on your wrist, get out of here, man. Who wants a one-day battery life where I've got to remember to charge my battery every night? It has no mapping. It has
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but you know, long range hunting, boltaction is is where I come from and always been an engineer, aerospace engineer. And and so here about six years ago, we put the two passions together and decided to come out with uh
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no offline maps for me in the backcountry. This thing lasts for 15, 16 days usually for everyday use.
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companies and Alpha products and Alpha this and Alpha that and Alpha Bravo Echo and on and on and on. We said, "Hey, we we're this is a great idea just like a thousand guys other have already had. we
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And then it's purpose-built for the backcountry. And don't even give me it's too expensive because again, they've got a watch in every budget to get you where you need to go. Go check out Garmin and all of their new incredible products.
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the word echo in the middle of the word anacoic, it's anti-echo. So there they have this massive hanger down there where you can take the world's largest jets and run them at full throttle for eight hours and they have these massive
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All right, Mr. Buck Steel, not only one of the coolest names in the industry, I mean, let's just be honest, but also producing some of the baddest equipment in the industry. And I got connected with you through a mutual friend.
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people know anode chambers from like sound recording. All of your sound studios are set up to not reflect sound, to be a quiet chamber. Uh, so that you know what's recorded in your music doesn't have all kind of crap noise
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Everyone on this podcast is probably too familiar with Wayan Herszig. So if you've ever had to listen to Wayan on the podcast, I'm sorry. No, I'm just kidding. One of my favorite people.
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suppressors that have ever been made. The I use you know my aerospace engineering in design skills to try and get every gram out of them and the the metallurgy and some of the the technology that you know I picked up in
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We elk hunt a lot together, bear hunt a lot together, have a lot of good times together on the mountains.
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So and let's let's let's get into what let's get into the before we can talk about before we can talk about the big scheme of what makes the best suppressor in its basic functions. what should a suppressor do and what should people I
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Are you in Idaho then, Dylan? I'm actually in Kansas, man. You go clear out the western Idaho for all that.
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the most doesn't make it the best. So what are the basic functions of a suppressor that people well not I don't want to say that people don't understand but that maybe people have overlooked. So when looking at a
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Yeah. Yeah. And I, I'm actually gearing up. I'll be heading that way here in May to go kill some more spring bears. So, one of my favorite places on planet Earth. And Ace Outfitters, just a phenomenal, phenomenal
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muffler and just like the muffler on your car it muffles noise but it does a bunch of other things too. It's a spark arresttor. You know, it comes after a catalytic converter these days on a car, which uses a catalyst platinum to take
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outfit there. And
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doesn't silence. It reduces noise. It suppresses noise. It also suppresses recoil. It also suppresses muzzle flash, which has to do with, you know, those unburnt gases that are going out your barrel and then they're hitting an oxygen environment and now they're com
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combusting. And so, you know, we've got external combustion going on that that's visible that emits light and stuff. So, your suppressor is suppressing a bunch of these things. It suppresses the ground print. If you've ever grabbed your deer rifle and laid down in the
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dirt on a short bipod and pulled the trigger, you know that instantly the ground is just all in the air all around the muzzle. Well, that that uh ground printing is another thing. So, a suppressor suppresses all of those
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things. And but for you know, a modern hunter uh you're primarily focused on sound reduction and recoil reduction.
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And by the way, a good suppressor is better than almost all muzzle brakes at reducing sound. The only kind of muzzle brakes or reducing recoil, the only kind of muzzle brake that can reduce recoil better than a good suppressor are uh
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muzzle brakes that jet all of the gas backwards and they just really can cuss your head. They make your gun way, way louder. So, I'm going to use shorthand and say that the very best muzzle break is a good suppressor. Um, so, you know,
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to to the hunter, you get those advantages. It just changes the game. It makes shooting so much more pleasant by taking uh that dangerously loud noise and just turning it into a loud noise.
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and that painful recoil of a big magnum and just making it into recoil. Uh, and then that ground printing pretty much goes away if you're laying down in the dirt and stuff like that. The problem with most suppressors and
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historical suppressors for the last hundred years is the weight. you just have this boat anchor in the worst place in the world to put a brick, you know, to put all that weight is three feet out in front of me and the
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wrong place. So, so the increasing technology that's going into suppressors the last decade or so as they're getting so much more popular and common use, uh, has more to do with reducing the weight than anything else.
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the sound isn't we're we're getting a little better at sound reduction. And as we're moving into 3D printing, we can use more complex in internal shapes.
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We're not limited to what you can do on a on a lathe. You know, the the original suppressor designs with flat baffles, conicle baffles, etc. came off of what could a guy make on a manual lathe a 100red years ago. And the technology has
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not evolved too much. We use all of our anooic suppressors come off of an eightaxis CNC lathe that's incredibly sophisticated, but it's still limited to the internal shapes that you can produce with additive manufacturing. So I I I
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guess you know getting back to your question and trying to wrap it up, what a modern hunter benefits from in a suppressor is recall reduction, sound reduction, uh uh uh ground printing reduction, a little bit of flash suppression, especially if you're doing
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photography. And now they can do those things better at a lighter and lighter weight.
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Yeah. So, when did we see this? And I'm curious to know because you just kind of mentioned it this this massive influx in the popularity of suppressors. You know, when when I was a kid even, it was like
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it didn't exist, right? It was unth I mean, you saw on the James Bond movies, you know, that that was the that was your knowledge of a suppressor was James Bond screws it on to go in and so everything we knew about a suppressor
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was wrong. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I I I love it when you see like some Matrix movie where two guys are going through a crowded space having a gunfight and nobody knows.
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Yeah. [ __ ] Yeah. They they don't silence that. Well, you can get pretty close to Hollywood quiet if you shoot subsonic 22 through a boltaction rifle and you put our Anico X22 on there or even the little
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pipsqueak 22. It It's actually quieter than dryfiring the gun. And we we show this to people all the time and they're like, "Bullshit. There's there's no way." And you do if you put those very low velocity like a a CCI uh uh quiet 22. It
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it's only 700 or 750 ft a second. But and if you're shooting a boltaction rifle that has like a graphite stock and then you dry fire and that firing pin hits it just kind of rings that stock, it's literally louder than putting that
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that subsonic 22 in there and shooting it through our X22 suppressor because the firing pin is dampened on the rear end of the cartridge and it doesn't ring the stock as loud. And that unccoring event at the front of the gun is quieter
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than that dry fire ringing through that stiff stock, which and can I just say like your pipque squeak feels fake. Like it's so light. It It's such a dude if I saw like if I was walking through my house that
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would be something I'd be like the kids thinking left this out and throw it in the trash. Like I I should have a pipsqueak to show you.
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I guess I could share screen and you could look at our website. How long is it? I mean it's what 4 in 3 in 4 in long right it is 3 and 1/2 in long and 1 and 12 o this is um well I I'll pretend this
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is our X22 or anaco X22 it's 6 in long an inch and an eighth in diameter and uh it's 2 and 12 O the pipsqueak is its little brother we just shortened it two and a half inches took out a couple of
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baffles and and made it less expensive So this thing is as I could pull pens out of my drawer that are literally heavier than this suppressor. And the pipsqueak is just over half its weight.
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So yeah, we we always joke we tell people we make them out of helium. You got to put a rock on it so it doesn't float off. You got to tie it to your wrist with the string so it doesn't
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float off. But they're cute as hell and a lot of fun. And they do about three4ers of the sound reduction of an X22.
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Yeah. You know, they they uh they they literally feel fake. I mean, they feel like it's Well, that one feels fake. And a little kid toy.
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Half that heavy. Yeah. It feel We get people all the time that they can hold it in their hand and they say, "It's not made out of metal. What's it made out of?" And I'm like, "Old metal." They're
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like, "No, it's made out of some kind of plastic or balsa wood or something." Yeah. No kidding. So, so when did when so when did we go from this idea of suppressors being some mythical thing that James Bond uses so nobody knows
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he's shooting a gun to this massive influx of now I mean if you've got guns you've got suppressors on them that's mostly over the last 15 or 20 years I'll give you a little bit of the history back in the early 1900s a guy
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named HP Maxim got a US patent for a gun muffler he did it the year after the same HP Maxim got a US patent for an automobile muffler. Well, a lot of people falsely think he's the father of
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both. In reality, there are dozens of patents in the early 1900s for automobile mufflers, and there's a few out there for gun mufflers and things like it. So, we're going back more than a hundred years. But in 1935,
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which you know, you're five years into the Great Depression and Congress has to justify its existence like everybody else at the time. We had just come out of prohibition and all the crime that was there and the ganglanders and and
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stuff like that. You know, Bonnie and Clyde, Dylan, all of Dillinger, all of those criminals. Anyway, so gun so the Congress passed the National Firearms Act. um that put a $200 tax on machine guns, short barrel rifles, short barrel
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shotguns, uh silencers, and any other weapon. And those are the NFA items. Well, that $200 tax stamp. At the time, the gun was $2 and the silencer was $200. They they didn't because of the Second Amendment.
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Congress at the time correctly interpreted the Constitution to say, "We can't ban guns and we can't ban those particular types of guns, including silencers, but we have the right to tax." So, they taxed them at a rate that
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was prohibitive. I mean, it was the price of a car, you know. Um, yeah, the $200 stayed $200 until last year when it was, you know, or this year, 2026, January 1st, it was removed as part of Trump's one big
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beautiful bill. Um, but you still had to pay the $200 tax. So, silencers were effectively prohibited by price um after 1935.
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So, they had a short existence uh in the early 1900s up till 1935. And then you you just nobody was going to pay the price. So guys were just like moonshine.
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They'd make a few on their own, but they weren't commercially available until about 20 years ago. The military had been using suppressors and that the military calls them suppressor. The difference between a silencer and a suppressor is only the name. But people
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who shoot them like the military call them suppressors, understanding they suppress a lot more. people who regulate them like Congress and the ATF falsely call them silencers. So about 20 years ago, the public started getting keyed in. You know, ex-military members who
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came to find the joys of suppressors started saying, "Hey, 200 bucks isn't that much anymore." And there started to be more and more commercial suppressors.
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Well, silencer registrations with the ATF, alcohol, tobacco, and firearms have been increasing at a annual rate of about 4040% yearonear. Wow. For every year for about 15 years. Nothing grows 40% a year.
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Okay? If your bank account grew at 40% a year, you'd that'd be a pretty damn good interest rate. But so we've just uh last year 2025 there were about a million uh don't quote me the exact number but it
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was approximately a million uh suppressor registrations in the US. Um if you go back 10 years there were less than a million that had been registered through through that whole century up to that. So, we're now making and
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registering more suppressors in a year than had ever been made and registered over the first hundred years of suppression.
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And and so now people originally from the military, but now through civilian use are getting exposed to suppressors and they're finding out that it just makes shooting so much more pleasant. It just takes the bark out of everything. Takes a big
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share of the recoil out. Uh especially for high velocity bullets. Uh and uh so they're just gaining all this acceptance. Well, there was nearly a million uh registered in 2024, the start of 2024.
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Uh, the American Suppressor Association had been working with the ATF for a decade or so to try and get that year-long wait time down. And we had a bunch of technical suggestions on how that wait time could be brought
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down. And we finally got a friendly ATF NFA guy, Steve Albro, who's, you know, a friend and a coworker. Now, Steve will take your phone calls, too. Or at least he takes mine. He takes him on his Christmas vacation, calls me back
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personally and spends a half hour with me on the phone. But he was the kind of government guy that you want, right?
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He was this friendly ATF guy who said, "I agree with you. There's no reason this should take a year for you to get a form for approval for a suppressor." And so he implemented a bunch of changes as
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requested by the ASA. And we provide American suppressor association. We provided a bunch of technical input on you know the computers and stuff and changing the first in first out bunch of stuff. So you saw at the start of 2024
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that the wait times dropped from about a year to about a week through the first half of 2024.
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And then starting uh you know January 1st 2026 under Trump's one big beautiful bill, the $200 tax stem went to $0. So, you still need the form for approval from the ATF, which still has the background check from the FBI and all that in it,
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but it's basically the same standards as buying a pistol. If you qualify to own a pistol, you'll qualify to own a suppressor. You've still got to go through the extra hassles of the background check, but now it's a week
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turnaround instead of a year. So with a $200 tax stamp now $0 and with a year wait now a week wait everybody's going out and finding out for themselves just how wonderful it is to to shoot suppressed. And now we make suppressors
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at, you know, 2 and 12 oz for your rimfire. I've got a 3oz suppressor, 3 and 12 ounce suppressor that's coming out. The Fibonacci 919 that's go on your going to go on your 9mm handgun or your 300
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Blackout at 3 and 12 ounces. It has a 3D printed uh titanium core in it. You'll see that out from Anoo over the next couple of months. You saw that Pipsqueak 22 that's out at 1 and a half O. And
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we're bringing out the Pipsqueak 57 for your 5.7 by 28. That's uh uh it's about 2 and A4 O I think all titanium. So, so now you've got technology with a big enough market base where we can invest
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in improved manufacturing and improved design and we can get you just a really improved product and you can pick it up in a week without a $200 tax stamp. So, it's it's we're about to see the glory days of suppressors. And,
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you know, I'm going to predict that basically every gun is going to be suppressed within a few years. Uh, all all the new guns, mo most of what you buy now comes with a threaded muzzle in anticipation of a suppressor. And people
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now are just realizing just how much nicer it is to shoot. Well, and I I think, you know, I think personally making them more accessible for guys like me, you know, there was this, like you said, you can kind of follow the es
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and flows where diehard gun guys are like, "All right, I'm going to get one." And then even just your your your gun enthusiasts were like, "All right, it's worth it now. I'll wait the year and pay the 200." But for guys like myself, I
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looked at it and I thought, "Dude, I can't read that." It says, "Ask me about my pipsqueak." Well, I'll tell you about it later. My guys did this when they're Sarah Cotton. I said, "Nothing gay." And that's that was their you didn't say
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nothing super gay. So, sorry. And it and they they I had this mug I loved for years and it was loved to death and I said it needs to get repainted and so I just gave it to them, you know, laser
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engrave my stuff and uh they just said ask me about my pipsqueak. Nice. In cerakote perplex I I I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that. Oh, you're I just took a drink of my soda and realized I'm I got this hot pink mug
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that I Well, go ahead and ask me about my pipsqueak. Sorry I cut you off on your uh No, no. I was just saying but but then but then you get to the point where it's like, okay, now they're only
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waiting a week. But but man, I only shoot a rifle, you know, a handful of times a year. I don't want to pay 200 bucks just to make it quieter and and you know, so but but then when you hear,
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okay, now there's no $200 and I can have it in a week. It's like, well, yeah, dude, why wouldn't I? Like, I'll buy a suppressor to make my shooting more enjoyable. So, so we've seen this natural like making them more accessible
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to the general public and making them more reasonably priced to own and making them to where you don't have to be a super gun enthusiast and and shoot your gun every day to have one. True. Um, so what does what does them removing
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what does the big beautiful bill do for the suppressor industry, but also for the consumer? Because I know I heard in the beginning it's like, well crap, now that there's no tax stamp there, there won't even be suppressors available.
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Like they can't even make them fast enough to give them to the to the consumer. So what did it do for the suppressor industry, but also for the consumer? We're uh in the first few months of 2025, our suppressor sales were about five
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times what they were in 2024 and 2025. Let me say that again. In the first quarter of 2026, you know, ending a month ago, we were 5x the sales rate. I think nationwide they're 2x and 3x what they were doing
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the last couple of years. Um, so there are a few shortages right now. Um, you know, as people are going out and and buying everything up, um, we've got a pretty good inventory. We recognized that this was going to be the case. As
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soon as Trump's one big beautiful bill passed the Congress in about April last year or May, um, everybody started sitting on their hands. Why should I buy a suppressor now in May of 2025, right?
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$200 tax stamp where if I just wait a few months, I can get it without that $200.
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So 2025 was kind of a lost year for a lot of suppressor companies and then everybody's coming out of the woodwork now in 2026 to get them. So what it what it's done to the industry um what because we're
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now and we have been for a decade making about 40% more suppressors each year than we made the year before and then the next year 40% more than that you know because of that exponential growth.
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The higher production volumes gives us better funding to and we can bring down the price uh of suppressors. So, you're seeing suppressors now. Not only you're getting them fast, not only you getting them without a $200 tech stamp, but
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you're getting them at prices lower than they've ever been. We had across the board price cuts on uh January 1st for 2026 of anywhere from 9 to 25%. Every suppressor we sell came down in price because our volume is going up.
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That makes sense. We ma we made about anacoic made about.3% of the suppressors in the country in 2024. We made about 0.5% of the suppressors in the company 0.5% in 2025 and for 2026 we will probably make about I'm going to guess about 1%
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of the suppressors in the in the country. So you you just see across the board all of the dynamics uh are just saying more suppressors, better price, better quality, better product, less government interference, less regulation and taxation.
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And and right now we've got to go down the legal a little bit more. I'll maybe I'll let you ask your question, but if you want to get back to the near future for what's going to happen in the courts
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and the legal status, uh we can go over that too. Yeah. Uh I I I I want to I want to kind of end with that. But so with this with this spike in the in the um popularity of suppressors and everybody
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uh seeming to go to suppressors, you know, I just and and we kind of chatted about this before. There seems to be a bunch of highlevel knowledge about suppressors.
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There seems to be a bunch of people putting out highlevel content about suppressors. However, you know, I think there's a lot of folks right now like me who are saying like, man, I'm a big hunter. I own a bunch of guns, but I'm not a
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massive gun guy. Never really looked into suppressors. Uh, and I would dare say probably most of my listeners are 90% bow hunter. and then they pick up a rifle to go shoot coyotes or pigs or or or small game or or whatever plink at
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the range uh very few times a year. Um but now they're starting to say, "Okay, maybe I should look into getting some suppressors. Weight time's down, price is down, no tax stamp." Like, why shouldn't my rifles be suppressed? Now,
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with that being said, I would like to give the listener some sort of basic guideline on different metal types, different baffle types, different, you know, I got when I opened your suppressor, I got two different little caps. One was had a bunch of holes all
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around it. One didn't. A flow cap versus a solid quiet cap. Yeah. Yeah. So, I either one those caps in in every center fire suppressor we make um so that you can experiment and play.
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Yeah. give you a rundown on metals first. Um there are in in general categories there are four metals that you commonly see in suppressors from the lowest temperature to the highest. They are aluminum uh steel usually stainless steel uh or
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pardon me uh titanium and then uh stainless steel and then nickel B nickelbased alloys. uh uh that have the highest temperature range. Um any metal what we're looking for to keep your suppressor light and let it do its
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job are metals with the highest strength to weight ratio. Um and the titanium the really good titanium alloys uh are the best at that along with composits. I'm working on composite carbon graphite suppressors right now, but um the titanium alloys are the best at
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that. And aluminum, really good aluminum, not not the aerospace aluminum that's in your bicycle frame. Uh but uh way better aluminum alloys are the second highest strength of weight after the titanium.
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But aluminum, all metals lose their strength as they get to more elevated temperature and it drops off pretty quick. For aluminum that's around 400 degrees.
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For titanium, it's around 800. For the the steels, the stainlesses, it's around 1,100. And then for Incanel and the other nickelbased alloys, it's around 1,400.
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So, if you're shooting a low pressure, low energy round that won't heat up the suppressor as much, aluminum makes really good sense. But if you're going to if your suppressor is going to get over about 400°, can't use it. And then
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you're pushed up into titanium, which is what we specialize in, premium titanium suppressors. And with the exception of uh you know full auto real military full auto hundreds and hundreds of rounds titanium is really the best metal. It's
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also the most expensive. Our recycling chips of titanium sell for more dollars per pound than the very best steel that we buy brand new.
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That's interesting. So it's, you know, it's expensive. Uh, but that's probably where most of your suppressors should be for your center fire rifles is is titanium.
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If you want to go cheaper and still be able to do, you know, higher rates of fire uh for your center fire rifles, your 300 magnums or your six breed or whatever, then you've got to step up to stainless. it uh we
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usually uh 174 precipitation hardened stainless and I won't get into the chemistry but but basically it's going to be heavier and cheaper than a titanium suppressor.
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it. So, well, let let me take a step may maybe I I know we started with metal uh and and the different metal types, but with anything there are gives and takes. So, I can go lighter then it's not going to
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be as quiet. I can go, you know, lighter, but then it doesn't have the heat retention, you know, I can go suppresses less.
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Yeah. Set a trade. Yeah. So, what is I guess as your as the person is looking at a suppressor, what would you say in your opinion is the single most important thing to look at? Like I don't care how quiet it is if
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it doesn't have this. I don't care how much it reduces recoil if it doesn't have this.
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I can tell you what's selling for us right now and it's price. Yeah. What what we're selling the most of are our cheapest suppressors and the things that are least exp our our pipsqueak has a street price under
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300 bucks and it's going nuts. Well, the the X22, the Anico X22 is a better suppressor and is still only 2.5 ounces. It's the big brother of the Pipsqueak, right?
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But it's a $500 suppressor. So, we're selling more $300 suppressors than 500 and more $500 than our $1,000 $1,200, you know, titanium suppressors for for magnum rifles and stuff. So, if you're looking at price, um, which apparently is the most common thing now, do that.
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If you're going to if you're shooting a 9mm or a rimf fire uh or things that don't get over 400°, aluminum uh is a really good choice. By the way, suppressors don't wear out uh at this even the same rates that barrels do.
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Suppressors are good for tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of routes. You're you're not going to wear it out. The death of a suppressor is when you don't have it on tight and you actually shoot the inside of the
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suppressor. It's called a baffle strike. So, as long as you've got it tight and as long as it was manufactured well and your barrel, your muzzle threads are manufactured correctly. So, there's an alignment, the the bullet passes through
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the suppressor without ever touching it. As soon as you didn't get it on tight or there was debris on the threads or the shoulder and it's misaligned, and usually it's because they come loose, you're not paying attention, then you
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get a baffle strike. You just run the suppressor in most cases, but you're not going to wear it out. So, even aluminum, yeah, it's it's a way less robust metal, but that's going to be your least expensive option.
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And then if you and and then after that are going to be the steel suppressors, but they're going to be heavy and uh they've been the most popular for center fire for a long long time. The premium stuff is is usually titanium because you
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get the lightest best suppressor that can go up to 800°. And then if you're truly in military full auto where you're going to melt down a gun barrel shooting at 92 Afghan rebels coming up the the mountain at your at your squad and you
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want to shoot thousands of rounds of 762 by 51 and rain down hellfire and it and it you know we're playing for keeps full auto kind of stuff. Yeah. Then you need those incanels and and the nickelbased alloys and the the temperature ranges.
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But I don't think there's too many guys out there on hogs and plankton that need that. So I mean sometimes it takes me sometimes it takes me two or three shots but not hundreds and not thousands.
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And we like to go play with the new force reset triggers now that they're legal. So, we shifted our design requirements for the Pipsqueak, which is designed for the pardon me, the Pipsqueak 57, which is designed for your
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5.7 by 28 that we need to get uh 100 rounds uh full auto capable because guys are shooting these forced reset triggers. So it drives us out of the ability to do it in a 400 degree metal and into the need
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to do it in an 800 degree metal or if we wanted to make it heavier and uglier we could use an 1100 degree metal stainless steel but so let me ask you this other designs other than price does something change
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if a guy like me calls says listen I ain't going to be shooting hundreds of rounds I'm not going out I'm not you know I just I want to make sure it's quiet and comfortable to shoot. I want
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to make sure, you know, if I take my boy out who's seven, he's not going to blow his shoulder off. He's not going to hate the shooting experience. Like I just it's going to get shot 10 10 shots a
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year, maybe. Um, does does it other than cost, does something change to where you would say, "Well, you really don't need this." If, you know, if you're just a a standard, you know, normal gun guy who's going to go to the range two or three
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times a year, go shoot hogs and coyotes, like really just look at something like this. You know what I mean?
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If cost is not uh much of a driver, then go titanium. It's it's just the best.
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It's got the highest strength to weight ratios, so you'll get a a a better suppressor, but it'll there'll also be the most expensive.
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And then the compromise metal are the stainless steels, and you'll get a less expensive, not as inexpensive as aluminum.
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Uh, and it'll be way, way heavy, but uh, if you're only shooting a few rounds a year. So if if you don't need the lightweight or you don't care about the lightweight, you'll see that the kind of the midpric
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suppressors are going to be made out of uh stainless steel, usually 74 pH. We we make all of our 17 for PH in the highest heat treat state, which is H900. I know too much detail. Mo most of the
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suppressors you see is fully annealed uh or mill condition which is lower strength and they're just throwing more weight on there because they're not picky about weight and so you got this big boat anchor.
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Another another thing you ought to think about we ought to talk about mounting systems.
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Yeah. If you're Seal Team Six, or if you think you are and you want to look badass, you put these quick disconnects on there and you know, I got a a stack of them right over here. You add four, six, eight
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ounces to your suppressor and it lets you put it on and off in two or three seconds. I think it's a stupid investment because of the weight. You got the complexity, you got the cost, you got the weight, you got the
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alignment issues, you get more baffle strikes with those quick disconnects. The smarter way is a direct thread adapter. Our DTAs weigh 08 O.
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Try to find one. I got a DTA package, but they come on. They're pre-installed on all of our uh center fire titanium suppressors. Uh, but it's 08 ounces and it takes about 10 seconds to screw it on and about five seconds to screw it off.
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You know, I will say this. I I man, when I went out there to set up that, I thought it was going to be like, "Okay, we got to do this. We got to do that. We got to do this. We got to do that." They
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pulled that out of that box and they screwed that on that barrel and they're like, "All right." And I'm like, "What else we got to do?" And we're talking literally 10 seconds of of setup time.
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almost to the point where I think you even see me in the video. I look back and I'm like I'm good to shoot this, right? Like this is set up. I'm not just not gonna You guys aren't playing some s Why are you
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guys all backing up and walking away, you know? Uh like sort of, you know, freaking out a little bit and like dude, you're set up and ready to rock.
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And I'm like, that took six. I'm like, why you guys need to put on the package?
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No assembly required. Like screw it on there. Well, so usually the argument is between a quick disconnect and and a direct thread mount. And for me, you know, coming out of aerospace, if you leave it off, whatever it
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whatever it is that you're thinking about putting on your your airplane or your missile or your, you know, your spacecraft, if you leave it off, it weighs nothing, it costs nothing, and it can't break.
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Yeah. Why do I want the complexity of that quick disconnect system with extra joints and extra components and extra weight and extra cost and it still takes me a few seconds to put it on and off.
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It's just so easy to screw a suppressor on, screw a suppressor off. So, that's my pitch on that, you know, mounting systems on there. You do have to make sure they're tight all the time. It has to you get the
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alignment. Remember, you're you're shooting through the center of that suppressor, and the hole through the center of the suppressor is just barely bigger than your bullet.
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So, it has to be perfectly aligned. Well, we can machine it perfectly straight, and we do. And the device is perfectly straight and your gun muzzle thread and the shoulder behind it hopefully are perfectly straight and aligned coaxial with your bullets with
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the with your barrel's bore. But what we can't do is make you tighten it and keep it tight. So if you put it on and you don't torque it and the shoulder doesn't seat, it doesn't pick up that perfect
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alignment. or if you don't tighten it enough and especially on your big magnums, it comes loose. Now it's hanging down and the next time you pull the trigger, you just shot the inside of your suppressor.
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Your your suppressor is basically never going to wear out. But the first baffle strike, even on a brand new suppressor, you just killed it. You shot yourself.
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Huh. So, what does what does um what should a guy how often should a guy check the tightness? What should he look for? What should he listen for? Like, is there any, you know, warning signs like, "Hey, you're new to this game. Just make
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sure and watch this." It's like Russian roulette. You don't get a second chance. So, make sure there's not Well, don't play Russian roulette. Make sure get the the chamber line. So, torque it tight.
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and put it on good and tight and and you're done. Now, how tight it needs to be goes up with the power of the round.
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You can shoot a a 9mm or a rimfire all day long and just, you know, a little bit of hand pressure. It's not going to come loose. you start to get up into a 5.56 or a 308 or your six creed or
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whatever and you're talking more like 20 foot pounds of torque and it's not going to come loose. But then you start shooting, you know, 300 Magnums or the kind of stuff that I shoot. You know, my one of my elk guns is a 378 Weatherbe,
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but I've got some bear guns that are 375 Ruger. And, you know, you start burning 114 grains of powder every time you pull the trigger. It puts a hell of a concussion and a hell of a vibration through things and it it'll loosen it
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up. So, you know, when I'm shooting those kind of guns, I put everything together at like 40 foot pounds of torque. So, the first thing is give it plenty of torque.
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The second thing, especially if you're new to suppressors, is check it after one shot and check it again after five shots. And until you get a good warm fuzzy that is not loosening up on your gun and your caliber, then you know,
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keep checking it. If you do find it loosens up, you know, after one or five or 50 shots, then you didn't put enough torque on it.
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Gotcha. And and you know, suppressors also take a set. The the components just need more torque. Just like you know, your wheels, your aluminum wheels after you get new tires, they they want you to retorque them after 50 miles. Well, not
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everybody does, and some people have problems. Most people get away with it, but you know, we we say the same sort of thing, especially on more powerful guns, and basically things that are more powerful than a 308. retorque everything
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and the baffle stack inside will take a set and you're retorquing and retightening the front cap which compresses the baffle stack the direct thread adapter to the body and and then the whole assembly onto your barrel.
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So, back to back to my um back to my level of of what you would say is important after cost. So, somebody looks and they said, "Okay, I've got 500 bucks to spend on a suppressor." In your opinion, what should be the order of of
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importance there? Which one's going to make it quietest? Which one's going to reduce the recoil? Which one's going to uh be the lightest? Which one's going to What are those kind of levels of importance?
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Varies per person and application, but I think in general, look at cost and look at weight.
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um all suppress or suppress. And usually what you find out is uh the thing that most people key on two or three more decibb more or less is isn't really changing your experience very much.
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Right? the weight is. So what you typically find out is that all of the idiots looking online sitting in, you know, bunny slippers and bathrobe in their mother's basement pontificating on social media uh are are debating uh re sound reduction.
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But guys who are out shooting them are focused on the weight or if you're shooting a high uh recoil rifle or you need or you're shooting in competition where you you just don't want any recoil then that becomes the next most
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important thing. Gotcha. And so the thing that most people think is the most important, sound reduction, usually gets kicked down to about number four as you get uh That's a really good point.
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That's a That's a really good point. Um speaking of of quietness, speaking of how quiet something is, I had no idea this existed. I had no idea this was a thing. But when I went to shoot this, you know, newly suppressed rifle, they
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talked about this can pop and how the first shot's always going to be louder than the rest.
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I saw that in your video. It's first round pop. It's called first round pop.
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Okay. Well, they they started they started making fun of me because then they started saying, "Oh, it's a desk pop." You know, like I love that in your video. I wanted to jump in there and say, "Guys, here's
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what's going on." like on the other guys where he he walks in and says, "Hey, when's the last time you did a desk pop?" "Uh, summer of08." He finally pulls his gun out.
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That movie with Will Frell and uh the other guys pretty good desk. Yeah, they start then they started making fun of me telling me the wrong things and I'm like, "You guys are idiots." Let me tell you first round pop.
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Yeah, go ahead. It's not a big deal. When your suppressor is full of oxygen and all of that escaping gas comes out the end of your barrel and into your uh into your uh suppressor, a little bit of it is
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unburnt powder. If it hits an oxygen environment, it burns and it adds a little bit more pop, a little bit more sound. By your second shot, there's no oxygen left in your suppressor. It's all burnt gases from the powder. So on your second round and
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your 20th round, those that unburnt powder uh gets in there. There's no oxygen. It can't burn. It doesn't pop.
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Right? So it's a it's a first round pop. It's just a little bit more noise on the first round. And I hear guys all the time say, "Well, my suppressor doesn't and his suppressor does." And I'm like, "Well, that's bitching." But you changed
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the law of physics. It's just was there oxygen there or was there not oxygen there?
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And your particular ammo when you get out the end of your barrel length with your ammo, how much unburnt powder is still there to be combusted?
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So, does it continue to get quieter progressively or is it just one and then that's what it's going to be at?
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It's it's one and done. first round pop is the first round because of the oxygen. Now, there's a couple other things for breakin like with titanium.
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We should talk about this. Titanium when it's very very finely subdivided like microscopic granules, it burns. You can light it with a lighter.
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You take a a handful of really fine titanium powder and throw it in the air with a lighter and oops, it's not as bad as lithium and and some of the other ones. But so what happens is you get a
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new titanium suppressor and I don't care which titanium or what company. The machining raised all these little molecules of titanium and they're sitting there loose. You can't brush them off. You can't dust them off. It's tiny tiny irregularities from the
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machining and you can go out on a bright sunny day and shoot a high pressure high velocity round through it and you'll see all these sparks going down range.
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Well, it's because it's titanium and all of these little bits are are breaking in. They're they're breaking free.
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They're burning and you're shooting this shower of sparks downrange 20 ft or so. And it's a fun it's only titanium. You don't get this in aluminum and you don't get this in steel and incanel and nickel alloys. Um, but it's all titanium and
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it's a function of how much heat and pressure. So, you get a low temperature low pressure round like a a rimfire or a 9mm and you don't notice it. But you put it on a high temperature, high pressure round like,
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you know, 300 six and above kind of stuff and you're seeing these showers of spark and especially if you're on a 300 magnum or something, you're just seeing a shower of sparks, but it dissipates over a few dozen rounds and after a 100 rounds or
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so, it's not there again. Also, there's oils from your hand and from the manufacturing. First time you get that suppressor really hot, it starts to smoke. It's just the the oils burning off molecular quantities that you can't even wash often from handling in your
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hands. So that makes sense. You see that when you go full auto or you get anything really hot, your car engine, you know, and it Yeah.
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starts to smell. What would you uh what would you say the biggest misunderstanding about firsttime suppressor buyers? What what do you think the biggest misunderstanding is on suppressor? If your expectations were set by Hollywood movies, then you'll be disappointed.
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They're not silent. They suppress sound. They don't silent sound. So, if you start with a really low sound like a subsonic 22 out of a boltaction rifle, um it's going to just be pretty close to Hollywood silent, especially if you get on a really good
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suppressor. But as you get to louder and louder sounds uh and and work your way up to higher uncoring pressures, that's as the bullet departs the barrel, how much pressure is in the barrel, that makes a uh uh shock waves and and
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creates sound. The the higher unccoring pressures get so which is usually correlated to bullet velocity. faster the bullet, the higher the pressure that was pushing it and the louder the sound that it makes in as a general rule. And
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so you get out there with, you know, your 5.56 223 and you put a silencer on it, you go, "Hey, that's still loud. That, you know, that's way louder than they showed in the movies." So you got to be calibrated
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and set your expectations appropriately. Also, uh, suppressors with larger and larger bore diameters for larger and larger bullets, the bigger hole lets out more sound. So, you take our 45 caliber suppressor. Yeah, you can put it on your
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223 and it'll suppress some sound, but not nearly as well as if you put our 35 caliber on there, or that won't be as well as if you put our 30 caliber on there. And that won't do as well as if
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you put our 223 caliber suppressor on there. Each has a smaller and smaller and smaller set of holes that keeps more and more sound from going out.
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That makes sense. So, what kind of what kind of percentage in reduction can you actually expect?
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It it depends on how low how loud the noise is to begin with. We've measured up to 40 or 42 dB of reduction from the very loudest guns. So, we usually think around 140 dB for hearing safe, meaning
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my ears don't ring, they don't hurt, and I can still take a phone call right after shooting. That's about 140 dB.
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Some people argue that you do hearing cumulative hearing damage at much lower levels, and it's true. So, you know, what level is hearing safe? But you get a lot of guns, the loudest, most powerful, you know, again, 300 Magnum's
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the one that most people get the most experience with that go over 180 dB. And we've got some 300 magnums that we've taken from about 182 to about 140.
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More typical for sounds that don't have the intensity to begin with is between 20 and 30 dB of reduction.
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All right, this might be a stupid question, and if it is, just say you're an idiot. I'm not even answering that.
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Are there certain calibers that suppressors perform better with? Or like, okay, so if somebody like if somebody's listening and they're like, I don't know if I should. And then, well, if you've got a, you know, a Lord a 65 Creedmore,
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you definitely need to get one because it's going to reduce it this like what what are those calibers and why is that?
Speaker A
Um, if you start with the softest sound, you'll get the soft uh the softest sound suppressed.
Speaker A
Okay? So, a subsonic 22 is always going to be quieter than a supersonic 22. And if I suppress them both, the suppressed subsonic is quieter than the suppressed supersonic.
Speaker A
Um, and that 22 is always going to be quieter than, you know, a 5.56.
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Um so but, um, even though the 22 is going to be quieter, suppressed or unsuppressed, uh, as you start to get louder and louder, you need the suppression more and more.
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Yeah. The ones where we'll get the best recoil reduction will always be the ones with the highest ratio of powder to bullet weight, which are what?
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Which are basically your fastest bullets, your your bottleneck cartridges. So, uh, let's say you're doing a 7 Magnum or a 300 Magnum with a 150 grain bullet and you're putting half of that weight in there as powder. That's a
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really high ratio of powder weight, 50% of the bullet weight. We can reduce the heck out of the recoil on that. Go to another extreme. Let's go with a an old school 4570 with I don't even know what they are. 400 grain bullets
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and really small powder charges. Maybe I don't know 20 grains of powder. I'm making up numbers. But now I've got 400 grains of bullet and only 20 grains of powder. I can't do much with the recoil there. The is still going to leave at
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the same speed. That's going to impart the same amount of momentum on my shoulder. The only thing that the sound suppressor or the suppressor works on are the gases, not the bullet. Gotcha.
Speaker A
Doesn't change the bullet speed. Doesn't change the bullet course very much, but the gases I can work on. So if you get a very low ratio of gases, gas weight to bullet weight, you get less recoil reduction. So, so guys with the
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high recoil rifles, because the rifle is light and fast, you know, a small caliber magnum, we can reduce the heck out of that recoil.
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Recoil that comes from big heavy bullet, you can't do too much about the recoil there. And the sound suppression, we take more decibb out when there's more decibb there. So, the loudest noises we can do the most reduction with, but it's
Speaker A
still going to be louder than guns that started out quiet like a 22. No, that that that makes sense. Um, now and and maybe this is uh an impossible question to answer, but dude, I I don't care about, you know, going out and
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shooting for hours. I don't care about, you know, being at the range for hours.
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I care about killing animals. Like, that's what I care about. So, how much does a suppressor change the impact on what the animal is hearing and experiencing? And and and again, maybe that's an impossible question to answer.
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You go to the homepage on asilencer.com. That's our website, a silencer.com. And after 3 seconds, in the lower right hand corner, this video is going to pop up. I'm going to full screen it.
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You're 610 yards away from a 357 elk. We got big trophy elk. I know for a fact you ain't hunting with whining because I've never seen bulls like that. Let tell you something.
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This was on the Hickoria Apache in September. I hunt there quite a bit. We were on this elk for 45 minutes. We had seen a 420 elk the day before and I'll shoot a 350 and five in over his shoulder.
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But for the video, we wanted a spinal tap. That clock is running because at 44 seconds, we we're trying to get video.
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We're not trying to kill an animal here. We're trying to get video. Look which way he's looking. He never looked at the shooter. He never looked in the direction of the sound.
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He just What was that dust that kicked up behind me? Now you're 5 seconds away from the follow-up shot. It's going to spiral tap it.
Speaker A
Wow. That was insane. So, if you want a follow-up shot, I'm going to suggest you shoot suppressed.
Speaker A
Is there any kind of measurable percentage of downrange noise reduction? Uh, there's a a lot of measurable downrange noise reduction. Uh the problem is measuring it and the human experience or the animals experience. The the sound pressure levels we measure in decibb.
Speaker A
It's a logarithmic scale and about 3dB is the smallest difference you can hear. Well 3dB is twice the sound pressure level. So basically if you double the sound pressure level that's the least difference your ear is going to pick up.
Speaker A
Well, that's three dB. That gun with that suppressor, that was our compact. That's an 8 O suppressor on there. That was a 300 PRC, which as you know is basically the most powerful of the 300 Magnums until you get into uh well, I
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don't know if the 300 Normma's got more the 3378 Weatherbe does, but out of like the 300 Win and and stuff, the 300 PRC is a little fat. 300 weather be 300 PRC is a little bit more pressure. So that
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was an 8 ounce 30 caliber compact the Anico X30 and that elk at 610 yards. His experience was the bullet crack broke it went over his shoulder by 5 in. Break it down frame by frame. You could you could see
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that impact point. So he would have experienced a sonic boom. That bullet still going way over the speed of sound.
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So he heard a crack, but that crack was over his back and then he heard an impact in the ground behind him next to him and a dust cloud came up. But in those thick pines, it wasn't hard ground that made a crack. It
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was a soft thud and it kicked up a big dust cloud of vegetation and soft dirt and stuff. And you watch his reaction.
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He looks away from the shooter and he he didn't feel any panic. There was nothing. He was calm throughout, but he does not look towards the gun. He finally when he takes a look, he looks back over his shoulder at the point of
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impact. And it was about, you know, 15 yards that way. and he's wondering, "Why are the squirrels so noisy today? Why are the squirrels throwing dust in the air?" But he never moved a foot.
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44 seconds he stood there and he didn't move a hoof. It didn't look at where the sound came from, you know. And we we experienced that on hogs and deer and different things like that. Yeah. You you just put a bullet
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into the hog next to me or you put a bullet over my back and Yeah. there was noise and stuff and they they break and they go, but what they don't usually do is recognize the unccoring event at the
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shooter as the source of the problem. Man, that is super cool. So, what is uh what's your number one uh to wrap up?
Speaker A
What's your number one buying tip for the person listening? They're like, man, I want to get into suppressors. What's your number one buying tip?
Speaker A
It it so much depends on how you're going to use it, but I'm I'm gonna say look for lightweight.
Speaker A
And by the way, I was with uh Dave Matheni on his ranch in December. He's he's the founder owner of Silencer Shop and his wife Hie and my wife Rebecca or Galpals. So we went down and spent three
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days with them on their ranch. Just Dave and I hunting his hogs and whitetails and hie and Rebecca, you know, hanging out doing girl stuff, just the four of us. But I had him shooting some of my suppressors and and you know we're
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playing with all kinds of games. He he sells more than half of the suppressors registered in the country each year right now through silent through yeah they at the time he told me they had done 375,000 uh up uh through November in in 2025. So
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they they were going to and and that was just direct to customers. That's not even counting their dealer sales. So they were going to be on the order of a half a million at the end of the year if
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you count direct to customer hand dealer. And he said, "Buck, you you got to just tell people about weight. Stop trying to tell them about sound reduction and and recoil reduction and and all these other things. Weight is
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what uh people are focused on." Like, "Okay, Dave, you you would know of anybody you would know." So, I I'd say as you're using it for, you know, if you're only walking 10 feet from your truck to your concrete bench
Speaker A
and then you're putting it on a big heavy gun, maybe weight doesn't matter as much, but you'll still notice the balance problem because of where the weight went. But if you're hunting and carrying it, that that suppressor is no
Speaker A
longer your friend. a one pound or a pound and a half or a two pound suppressor, you know, after a mile, that suppressor is not your friend. An 8 o or a 10 ounce suppressor is very cool. Well, Buck, man, I I
Speaker A
appreciate you coming on, dude. I I appreciate the insight. I appreciate the information, guys. I would highly encourage you if you are in the market um for a suppressor, check out Anakoic.
Speaker A
I would I would warn you though, if you're looking for a 22, like don't think the Pipsqueak is fake. It is real.
Speaker A
Um, and you can ask Buck about his. So, um, who doesn't love a good gun? Who doesn't love a good gun shop? Just walk in, get up on the countertop stool, and share stories with the boys. Talk guns, talk
Speaker A
calibers, talk recent hunts. It's a good time. Gun shops are a great place to go and hang out. However, there's a couple gun shops that do it better than others.
Speaker A
And then there's one gun shop that really stands out. Powder and String Outfitters. Yeah, I'm a little biased because it's right here in the great town of Wellington, Kansas. Right here in my hometown. However, I can tell you
Speaker A
that anybody that walks into Powder and String is basically blown away because Powder and String Outfitters takes you back to a time uh where, you know, downtown shops were experts in their trade, where a man's word was his bond.
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Um, they got a creaky floor and they got rustic decor and they've got a massive selection of guns and ammos. They're a full-ervice gun shop. They've got an in-house hot bluing facility. They've got a full machine shop. They've got a
Speaker A
gun, a custom legendary gun engraver. Literally, when I say legendary, Mr. Brian Strange, their hand engraver is world class. They've got the engraver.
Speaker A
They've got gunsmiths. They have everything that you could ever possibly dream of having in a gun shop. They're also a small town, hometown, familyowned shop where you can call and talk to the owner. Guys, they've taken that same
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feel, that same great gun shop feel, and made it available online. Powderandstring.com. You can buy all your guns, all your ammo, all your shooting accessories right there online in the convenience of your own home. you can stand behind the
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people that you're supporting because the guys are phenomenal. Um, and again, I am of the opinion that if I'm going to shop for guns and ammo, I don't want to do it at a big box store. I want to
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support somebody like the Powder and String staff. So guys, go check them out for all your guns, all your ammo, all your shooting accessories. They've got it. They are knowledgeable. You can call them. You can talk to somebody, figure
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out what you need, why you need it, how you need it. They'll take care of you. I actually just bought a new shotgun there. Uh bought a new uh A300 and the first shot out of that gun was a dead
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bird. That's what I'm talking about. And I got it based off their recommendation. Guys, they're phenomenal people.
Speaker A
Somebody you can be proud of supporting. Go check them out. powderstring.com. Guys, I appreciate uh you listening. I hope you have a fantastic week. Next time you run into Buck Steel out in the wild, ask him about his pipsqueak. Guys,
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thank you so much for listening. Have a fantastic week and keep the dusty side up.
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