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Terence McKenna Decodes Hermes Trismegistus: Hermeticism for the Soul

Terence McKenna explores Hermes Trismegistus and Hermeticism, focusing on human divinity and magic's power to transcend fate.

Key Takeaways

  • Hermes Trismegistus is a symbolic figure representing a mystery tradition from late antiquity.
  • Humans are inherently divine and possess the potential to transcend fate through magical practice.
  • Hermeticism offers an empowering worldview distinct from orthodox Christian doctrine.
  • The Renaissance revival of Hermetic texts had a profound impact on Western esotericism.
  • Understanding Hermeticism requires recognizing its philosophical and historical context.

What the video covers

  • Hermes Trismegistus is a central figure in Hermeticism, often misunderstood as ancient but actually from 1st-2nd century AD.
  • The Hermetic texts are dialogues between Hermes and his son Thoth, discussing the nature of man and the cosmos.
  • Hermeticism emphasizes the divinity of human beings, contrasting with Christian ideas of the fall of man.
  • Humans are considered 'God's brother,' granting dignity but also the risk of pride.
  • The tradition holds that humans can control or escape cosmic fate through magic, challenging deterministic astrology and Gnostic fatalism.
  • Hermetic texts were rediscovered and translated during the Renaissance, influencing thinkers like Cosimo de' Medici.
  • Hermeticism was considered more urgent than Plato's philosophy by Renaissance patrons.
  • The Corpus Hermeticum contains passages affirming man's divine origin and potential for spiritual knowledge.
  • Hermeticism influenced Western magic, alchemy, and esoteric traditions.
  • The video also touches on the historical context and transmission of Hermetic texts.

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Questions about this video

Who was Hermes Trismegistus according to Terence McKenna?

Hermes Trismegistus is a legendary figure central to Hermeticism, representing a mystery tradition from the 1st-2nd century AD, not an ancient Egyptian or biblical figure as once believed.

What are the two main distinguishing ideas of Hermeticism discussed in the video?

The first is the divinity of human beings, viewing man as 'God's brother.' The second is the belief that humans can use magic to control or escape cosmic fate.

How did the Renaissance contribute to the understanding of Hermeticism?

During the Renaissance, scholars translated the Hermetic texts from Greek and Syriac manuscripts, with patrons like Cosimo de' Medici prioritizing these works, which significantly influenced Western esoteric thought.

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The place to begin, I think, is obviously with the question, who is Hermes Trismagist?
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What are we talking about here? I mean, this sounds so incredibly exotic to people. Uh, the Renaissance had the concept of what it called the pres.
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And if my Latin and Greek irritates you, you have to understand you're dealing with a boy from a coal mining town in Colorado. So I do mangle these things.
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The presi were Orpheus, Moses, and primarily Hermes Trismagistus. Hermes Trismagistus was the primary source from the point of view of the Renaissance of this whole mystery tradition. And, um, you recall from last night's lecture that this is based on a
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misunderstanding. The Renaissance believed that Hermes Trismagistus was older than Moses. We know now thanks to Isaac and Marik Casabon, two philologists of the early 17th century, that definitely the Hermetic corpus was composed between the first and second centuries after Christ. The
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method of the Casabons was to examine the philosophical language of the Corpus Hermeticum and show that there were words and phrases there that were post-Platonic and derivative from philosophers whose dates we have fully in hand. Now if you
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go to an occult bookstore, you will find that to this day this error persists.
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There are people who still want to claim that this stuff is older than dynastic Egypt. Uh, there are even books available. I was in Shambhala a week ago claiming to teach you how to change lead into gold. Well, from my point of view,
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this just evokes a small and a small smile. The old errors persist. The puffers are still at it. Uh, but what Hermes Trismagistus is is a character who appears in many guises in these Hermetic dialogues. The dialogue, the
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Hermetic hymns are usually couched in the form of dialogues between Hermes and his son Thoth.
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And Thoth takes the role of the uninitiated Anenu who is sitting at the feet of the master. And Thoth asks questions. What is the true nature of the world? What is the true nature of man? And Hermes answers. And the general
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form of these texts, with exceptions because there are 20 of them, is an intellectual dialogue which builds to an ecstatic revelation and then in the wake of the ecstatic revelation there is a hymn of praise to Hermes
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Trismagistus. Trismagistus means thrice blessed and is sometimes called Hermes Triplex to distinguish this Hermes from all the other Hermes of early, middle, and late Greek thinking.
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Hermes is, of course, the messenger god, the god of scribes. The reason this ibis-headed being holding a staff is embossed on the cover of each of these books is because this is how Hermes Trismagist Thoth Hermes was imagined. He was
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associated with the scribe god of the Egyptian pantheon. The two distinguishing factors, at least, that stand out for me that I think you need to incorporate into your thinking about Hermeticism,
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two very important concepts. The first is the divinity of human beings, an extraordinarily radical idea in the context of late Hellenistic thinking. We all operate under the spell of the concept of the fall of man. That man is
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an inferior being. Errors were made in the Garden of Eden and that we are far, far from the nature of divinity.
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All magic, and all magic in the West is derivative from this tradition, takes the position that man is a divine being. Men and women are divine beings. The Corpus Hermeticum actually refers to man as God's brother.
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And this is a double-edged perception. It gives tremendous dignity to the human enterprise, but it also raises the possibility of the error of pride and hubris. In the Renaissance, Marello Facino boiled this notion down to the aphorism, "Man is the measure of all things."
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And you may notice that this is the position, really, of science, that man is the measure of all things. That it is up to us. We can decide the course of the cosmos. All magic stems from this position. This is why the church was so
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concerned to stamp out magic because it assigns man an importance that the church would rather reserve to deity. So that's the first great division between Christian thinking and Hermetic thinking. An entirely different conception of what human beings are. And
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when we get into the text, I'll read you some of these passages. Now the second distinguishing factor, and notice that this position on man empowers tremendous freedom. Man is the measure of all things. The second distinguishing factor in Hermeticism is the belief
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that we can control fate, that we can escape from cosmic fate. The late Hellenistic mindset was, and what you get in the Gnostics, is the belief that because of astrology, because of the stars, we are subject to control from these
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exterior forces. In most Gnostic thinking, the whole concern is to somehow evade what is called the hearmony, cosmic fate. And in the Gnostic systems, the only way it can be done is by ascending through the shells of cosmic ordering
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forces: the archons, the planets, the planetary demons, so forth and so on. And then beyond the hearmony, which is actually thought of as a place in space that you burst through, you transcend fate. What the Hermetic
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thought is, is that these fates become personified as the deans, as the stellar demons. And then it is held that there is a magic, a magical system which is possible where you can call these archangels to your side and work with them and not be
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subject to the inevitable working of the cosmic machinery. And this burst like a revelation over the late Hellenistic world because there was such philosophical and emotional and political exhaustion that this comes, this is a counterpoise to the message of the New Testament,
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which is a similar message, you know, that you can be saved in the body, that you can escape the inevitable dissolution and degradation laid upon us by time. So these are the two distinguishing factors, the divinity of man and the
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possibility of using magic to evade the machinery of fate. So I want to read some of the corpus to you to give you the flavor of it. But before I do, I want to say something about the history of these texts. You're
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all familiar more or less, I'm sure, with Apuleius's The Golden Ass, which is a novel of initiation that is late Roman.
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Apuleius also put together what is called the Asclepius, and the Asclepius is true Hermetic literature that was not lost. It was the only one that was available throughout the dark and middle ages.
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All the rest was lying untranslated in Syrian monasteries until Jistus Pletho in 1490 brought these manuscripts to Florence to the court of the Medici, and then the translation project began. Now the only other Hermetic material that was
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accessible throughout the high Gothic period was a book of magic called Picatrix. Picatrix was probably written in the 1200s, although this elicits screams of dissent from the burning-eyed faction. But reason dictates that we consider Picatrix 12th
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century. So only the Asclepius and the Picatrix represented this strain of thought before the 1460s.
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And the importance of Hermetic thinking can be seen by the fact that Jistus Pletho brought Plato to the Florentine Council as well as Hermes Trismagistus.
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And when Marello Facino sat down to do this translation work, Cosimo de' Medici said, "Plato can wait. I'm getting old.
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You do the Hermetic corpus first. That's much more important. We'll sort out this Plato business in a few years." And so it was done. And the complete It was completed in 1493. And in 1494, Cosimo died. So he never saw the
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translations of Plato but felt that the Corpus Hermeticum was more important. Just I mention this to show you the importance that was attached to this stuff.
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Here is one of the key passages on man's nature. This is from book one of the Corpus Hermeticum.
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But mind, the father of all, he who is life and light, gave birth to man, a being like to himself. And he took delight in man as being his own offspring. For man was very goodly to
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father. With good reason then did God take delight in man. For it was God's own form that God took delight in. and man and God delivered over to man all things that had been made. This is the basis of the Finanian statement. Man is
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the measure of all things. And man took station in the maker's sphere and observed the things made by his brother who was set over the region of fire. And having observed the maker's creation in the region of fire, he willed to make
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things for his own part also. And his father gave permission having in himself all the working of the administrators.
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This is a reference to the angel hierarchy. And having in him and the administrators took delight in him and each of them gave him a share of his own nature.
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So man is the brother of God and a creature at home with the angels. Um it the this idea is echoed in the escapius which you'll recall was available throughout the middle ages. Um the range of man is yet wider than that
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of the demons meaning the angels. This term is u you know transposable in hermetic thought. The individuals of the humankind are diverse and of many characters. They like the demons come from above and entering into fellowship with other individuals, they make for
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themselves many and intimate connections with almost all other kinds. And then the famous passage, man is a marvel.
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Then Esleius, honor and reverence to such a being. man takes on him the attributes of a god as though he were himself a god. And he is familiar with the deankind, for he comes to know that he is sprung from the same source as
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they and strong in the assurance of that in him which is divine. He scorns the merely human part of his own nature. How far more happily blended are the properties of man than those of other beings. He is linked to the gods in as
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much as there is in him a divinity akin to theirs. He scorns that part of his own being which makes him a thing of earth and all else with which he finds himself connected by heaven's ordering he binds to himself by the tie of his
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affection. So this is a incredibly radical conception of what it means to be human.
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So radical that it is unwelcome even in the present context. Notice the modern feeling of this stuff.
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I mean this is not biblical rhetoric. This is philosophical discourse as we know it and carry it out ourselves.
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This is a passage on the adept and initiation. Now this is uh let me see who's speaking here. Uh Thoth speaks to Pandandres. This is book one.
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But tell me this too, said I. God said, let the man who has mind in him recognize himself. But have not all men mind?
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And then Pandreas replies, "Oh man, said mind to me, speak not so. I even mind come to those men who are holy and good and pure and merciful. and my coming is a sucker to them. And forth with they
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recognize all things and win the Father's grace by loving worship and give thanks to him, praising and hemming him with hearts uplifted to him in felial affection. Again, the reference to being God's brother in felial affection. And before they give up the
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body to the death which is proper to it, they loathe the bodily senses knowing what manner of work the senses do. Now this introduces the theme of uh aestheticism that like excuse me like the Gnostics uh there is a in much of the hermetic
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literature a kind of horror of the earth a desire to ascend and to get away from it. Um Scott makes the distinction between what he calls pessimistic nosis and optimistic nosis. And within the 20 texts of the corpus hermeticum you get
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vacasillation on this point. In some cases the man the mandion the seabian tendency is there and the world soul is invoked and the whole of creation is seen as a living being involved in this sotiological process this process of
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salvational mechanics through magic. In other texts, this gnostic horror of matter is very strongly stressed. It's very clear that um the the henistic mind was ambivalent on this point even as we are ambivalent on this point. I mean
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it's a real question. Are we here to be the caretakers of the earth or are we strangers in the universe? and is our task to return to a forgotten and hidden home, no trace of which can be found in
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the Saturnine world of matter. It's very hard to have it both ways. Uh you're going to have to sort of take a position on that and these people were forced into the same dilemma. There's no middle ground between those two
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positions. And and so that that dichotomy that conundrum haunted a a lot of uh of hermetic thinking.
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Here is uh the hermetic creation myth. This is book three paragraphs one through a few. And you will see the comparison the similarities to the uh to the Christian creation myth but with extraordinary differences.
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There was darkness in the deep and water without form and there was a subtle breath intelligent which permeated the things in kaio with divine power. Then when all was yet undistinguished and unrot, there was shed forth holy light,
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and the elements came into being, all things were divided one from another, and the lighter things were parted off on high, the fire being suspended a loft, so that it rose unto the air, and the heavier things sank down, and sand
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was deposited beneath the watery substance, and the dry land was separated out from the watery substance and became solid. And the fiery substance was articulated with the gods therein. And heaven appeared with its seven spheres. And the gods visible in
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starry forms with all their constellations. And heaven revolved and began to run its circling course riding upon the divine air. And each god by his several power set forth that which he was bidden to put forth. And there came forth
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four-footed beasts and creeping things and fishes and winged birds and grass and every flowering herb, all having seed in them according to their diverse natures. For they generated within themselves the seed by which their races should be renewed. And then it goes on
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to describe the birth of man. Now this kind of thinking is what alchemy seized upon in its uh ambitions in a way. One way of thinking about uh what alchemy came to attempt is the thinking went like this. Since man is God's brother,
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the purpose of man is to intercede in time and it was believed that ores, precious metals uh and things like this grew in the earth. It was a thoroughgoing theory of evolution that reached right down into the organic
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realm. So it was thought that uh gold um deposits in the earth would actually replenish themselves over time and it's passages like this uh that give permission for that kind of thinking.
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In line with that uh we're now in book four and remember the tone changes slightly from book to book. They were after all uh written over a 300year period by various people.
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Um you must understand then that God is pre-existent and everexistence ever existent and that he alone made all things and created by his will the things that are. And when the creator had made the ordered universe, he willed
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to set in order the earth also. He willed to set in order the earth also. And so he sent down man, a mortal creature made in the image of an immortal being to be an embellishment of the divine body.
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For it is man's function, here it comes. The purpose of man for according to book four. For it is man's function to contemplate the works of God. And for this purpose he was made that he might view the universe with wondering awe and
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come to know its maker. Man has this advantage over all other living beings that he possesses mind and speech. Now speech my son God imparted to all men but mind he did not impart to all.
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Not that he grudged it to any, for the grudging temper does not start from heaven above, but comes from being here below in the souls of those men who are devoid of mind. This introduces the concept of the of an elect or a
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perfecty, a a hierarchy of human accomplishment and understanding. And this is also basic tennosticism. It's not for everyone. They're saying it's for the pure of heart. And then what pure of heart means depends on the school you're looking at. You know, for
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some it was mathematical accomplishment. For others it was contact with the logos. For others it was an ability to resist the temptations of the senses.
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But there was always this sense of the higher and lower possibility within the human experience.
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Everybody with me so far? This is at the opening of book 12. And this is a book with a heavy uh mandion sensitivity. This sensitivity to life.
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Now this whole cosmos and notice how this transcends even the Buddhist point of view because in Buddhism plants have no soul. This is a tremendous failure in the Buddhist conception as far as I'm concerned. Uh okay this is uh book uh book 12. Now
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this whole cosmos which is a great God and an image of him who is greater and is united with him and maintains its order in accordance with that will is one mass of life. And there is not anything in the cosmos nor has been
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through all time from the first foundation of the universe neither in the whole nor among the several things contained in it that is not alive.
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There is not and has never been and never will be in the cosmos anything that is dead. For it was the father's will that the cosmos, as long as it exists, should be a living being, and therefore it must needs be a god also.
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How then, my son, could there be dead things in that which is a God, in that which is an image of the father, in that which is one mass of life? Deafness is corruption, and corruption is destruction. How then can any part of
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that which is incorruptible be corrupted, or any part of that which is a god be destroyed?
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And there are other passages. Um, this is a good one. This is uh book 18.
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For as the son who nurtures all vegetation also gathers the first fruits of the produce with his rays as it were with mighty hands, plucking the sweetest odors of the plants. Even so, we too, having received into our souls, which
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are plants of heavenly origin the efflux of God's wisdom, must in return use his service for all that springs up in us.
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Now, this conception that the human soul is a plant is a unique idea. I don't know of another tradition. Uh those of you who were with us in Ohhigh, we heard Johannes Wilbur talk about uh how among the Amazon Indians, the Waral, the men
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actually marry trees. They actually take trees as their wives, a tree. And it is a man's job throughout his life to take care of this tree with the same tenderness and attention that he lavishes on a living wife. This is a
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more radical conception than that. This is the conception that the most important part of us is a plant. It it reminds me of the joke that I occasionally make in these groups.
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uh the notion that animals are something invented by plants to carry them from place to place. Well, according to this, that's right on. So, uh the the sensitivity to the vegetative nature of the world is so great that it raises the
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plant to be the pytheessence, the soul of man, the brother of God. So you see the valuation of the vegetative universe here is of an extremely radical type. Yes, Canoa.
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Um I was just going to ask the upper echelon section of humanity that was given the mind was that predetermined at birth or did someone develop mind?
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No, it's it is not predetermined. It is something that is acquired through cultivation of a relationship to in the hermetic language noose, the higher mind and in the Gnostic language logos, the informing spirit. But yes, no, the whole
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thrust. Yes. and the and the nothing is predetermined uh in the hermetic system because through magic we can overcome the energies of cosmic fate. This is the great good news of of hermeticism that we are not subject to fate. We should
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probably talk a little about this logos concept. Uh this is something which seems very alien to modern people unless they are psychedelically sophisticated.
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The logos was the suanon of henistic religion and what it was was an informing voice that spoke in your head or your heart wherever you want to put it and it told you the right way to live. You get this idea even in the
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later Old Testament where uh it's said that uh the truth of the heart is can be known that if that it is no great dilemma to know good from evil.
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You simply inquire of your heart, is it good or evil? And you will discover a voice which will tell you. And and all the great thinkers of this Grecohellenistic period uh sought and cultivated the logos. Plato had his demon. Everyone sought the
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informing voice of the noose. That's what it's called in neoplatanism. And then in hermeticism, I mean in and in hermeticism and then innosticism, the logos. Now, uh, for modern people, well, no, for me, the only way I've ever had
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this experience is in the presence of psychedelic substances. And then it is just crystal clear. There is no ambiguity about it. Somehow it's possible for an informing voice to come into cognition that knows more than you do. It is a connection with the
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collective unconscious I suppose that is convivial conversational and just talks to you about uh uh the nature of being in the world and the nature of your being in the world. Uh it's puzzling to us because it seems so
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remote. I mean for us a voice in the head or the heart is pathology.
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And uh you may know the famous story of uh in the first century uh some fishermen were off the shore of the island of Argos in the Mediterranean Sea and they heard a great voice from the sky and the voice said, "Great
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Pan is dead." Great Pan is dead. Well, people like Lactantius and Ucius, these Petristic fathers, the people who built Christianity, who took the Gospels and turned it into a world religion. They took this enunciation from the sky of
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the death of Pan as the enunciation of the change of the Aon. In other words, by the aon, I mean these 2,000 year roughly 2,000year periods that are associated with the equinoxial procession. Do you all understand how this works? that over 26,000 years
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the helical rising of the of the solsticial sun slips slowly slowly from one house to another and around AD 100 I mean there's argument because these things are never precise but around AD 100 the age of Pisces began and the
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previous Aon ceased and the cosmic machinery, the great gears of the largest scale of the cosmic machinery clicked past a certain point and into the age of Pisces. And this was then taken as um very fortuitous for Christianity because
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Christ was associated with the sign of the fish and was seen as a Piscian movement. But I believe that it's entirely possible that the logos at that moment, that rough moment in time, fell silent and that it has been silent for
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2,000 years. And what we have had then is the exugesis of text and you know noetic archaeology of the sort we're carrying on here. But that now in and a phenomenon as as trivial and and hype haunted as channeling can be seen
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as the reawakening of the logos. The long night of Piscian silence is ending and the spirit of noose is again moving in the world speaking in the minds of the adepts and the hieropofants who have uh the techniques and the will to connect with
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this stuff. I don't know how I got off on that, but obviously this kind of literature can be seen as the last message from the fading logos. The the last statements before uh the change of the aon rendered this
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control language uh very difficult and non-intuitive and somewhat incomprehensible.
Topics:Hermes TrismegistusHermeticismTerence McKennaRenaissanceCorpus Hermeticummagicalchemydivinity of mancosmic fateesotericism

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