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Shri Caitanya Siksastakam — Session 01 — Introduction.

Introduction to Shri Shikshashtakam by Hari Parshad Das, exploring the teachings of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu through eight sacred verses.

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Key Takeaways

  • Shri Shikshashtakam is a set of eight instructional verses by Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu meant for universal spiritual guidance.
  • The verses have been preserved through the efforts of Shri Rupa Goswami and elaborated by several key commentators.
  • Understanding these verses requires sincere interest and devotion, as their depth is profound and multi-layered.
  • The teachings are widely recited and respected in devotional communities worldwide.
  • Studying these verses is a lifelong spiritual endeavor that enriches the devotee’s understanding and practice.

What the video covers

  • Hari Parshad Das welcomes devotees to a new series on Shri Shikshashtakam, focusing on eight verses composed by Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
  • The Shikshashtakam contains instructions meant for the entire human race, emphasizing universal spiritual teachings.
  • Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s verses are compared to nectar from an eight-petaled lotus, symbolizing deep spiritual wisdom.
  • The text was preserved and propagated by Shri Rupa Goswami and other prominent commentators like Shri Krishnadas Kaviraj Goswami.
  • The series aims to dive deeply into the verses, acknowledging that even Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu spent decades relishing their meanings.
  • The eligible audience includes all genuinely interested in understanding Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s mood and teachings.
  • The Shikshashtakam is recited daily in many temples worldwide, highlighting its importance in devotional practice.
  • Hari Parshad Das offers prayers and introductory verses to prepare the mind for studying these sacred texts.
  • The series also touches on the historical context and preservation of the verses through manuscripts and commentaries.
  • The speaker encourages devotees to approach the study with humility and dedication, even if initially unqualified.

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Questions about this video

What is the Shri Shikshashtakam?

The Shri Shikshashtakam is a set of eight instructional verses composed by Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, offering spiritual guidance for the entire human race.

Who preserved the Shri Shikshashtakam verses?

The verses were preserved in written form by Shri Rupa Goswami and later elaborated upon by commentators such as Shri Krishnadas Kaviraj Goswami.

Who is the intended audience for the Shri Shikshashtakam?

While the teachings are meant for all humanity, the verses are especially accessible to those genuinely interested in understanding Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's mood and devotional teachings.

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[Music] Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Krishna. Hurry, h, h, h, har. Thank you so much, dear devotees, for kindly being here. I'm very grateful to each and every one of you for kindly participating in this series of discussions on Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's
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sh shik shasham de devotes the previous series was Shri upadesam and we managed to complete it in more than 60 talks and those were 11 verses of Shri upadesam this is a new series on Shri shikshashtakam and although these are eight
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Shikshashtakam, dear devotees. The previous series was Shri Upadesam, and we managed to complete it in more than 60 talks, and those were 11 verses of Shri Upadesam. This is a new series on Shri Shikshashtakam, and although these are eight
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into the heart of these eight verses spoken by SRI chananya Maha prabu himself I'd like to welcome all of you dear devotees to this presentation on sh ch shik this is the first introductory session and before I begin I'd like
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verses, we will try our best to dive as deep as possible into these verses. Although Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu spent decades trying to relish these verses, it was not sufficient, but still, at least we can make a small attempt to try and enter
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says yes PR Lord he gave us eight verses known as shika shika means instruction ashika 8 this shika poetry containing eight verses are very valuable and they were given by Lord chanya for understanding of the whole Human Society
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into the heart of these eight verses spoken by Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu himself. I'd like to welcome all of you, dear devotees, to this presentation on Shikshashtakam. This is the first introductory session, and before I begin, I'd like
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eligible audience for understanding s shik shasham the eligible audience is the entire human race but at the same time we do understand that the entire human race may not be immediately able to pick up the finer nuances of Sri chananya Maha
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to start by a quote by His Divine Grace Chidananda Swami. Sh Prad, in a particular speech given on 28th of July 1968, he specifies the audience eligible for Shri Shikshashtakam. Sh Prad says something. H, can you kindly read what it
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requirements for understanding this particular text in fact in many temples around the world the shik shasham is recited every morning therefore dear devotees it is very important for us to understand these eight verses spoken by SRI Chan Mah
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says? Yes, Pr Lord. He gave us eight verses known as Shikshashtakam. Shiksha means instruction. Asika 8. This Shiksha poetry containing eight verses is very valuable, and they were given by Lord Chaitanya for understanding of the whole human society.
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is a newly composed verse and this ver was shared in the group The devotees this verse is in the meter sh I'll try to sing it [Music] [Music] [Music] the devotees in this particular verse sh chananya Maha pru's Lotus mouth is compared to his
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It was not meant for any particular country or particular society, but it was meant for the whole human race. So Sh Prad specifies here that an understanding of Shikshashtakam can be had by the entire human race, and here he has defined the
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form of eight verses from the eight petal Lotus like mouth of bhagan Shri chaan maharu so you can see on each and every Bal there is some honey that has you that particular honey has come out on each and every lotus petal and it is
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eligible audience for understanding Shikshashtakam. The eligible audience is the entire human race, but at the same time, we do understand that the entire human race may not be immediately able to pick up the finer nuances of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's mood. Therefore, at least we can confidently say that all vnas who are genuinely interested in understanding Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's mood in speaking these verses, they are definitely eligible candidates for Shri Shikshashtakam. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu did not place any lofty
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who preserved these verses in written form in his literature named shali so it is by the mercy of shupa Swami prad that today we have access to S Chan Maha pru's teachings and after SRI Rupa Swami preserved it then bah then there were
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requirements for understanding this particular text. In fact, in many temples around the world, the Shikshashtakam is recited every morning. Therefore, dear devotees, it is very important for us to understand these eight verses spoken by Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, and as Sh Prad has specified here, for the entire human race, this message is very important. Before I begin, I'd like to offer an introductory verse, dear devotees, in order to pray that my own mind may relish Shri Shikshashtakam. This
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vishan chakti takur Shakti sidhant sarasti takur many other vnas have made this honey even more tasty in all ways by adding their particular flavors to this particular text de devotees like a bumblebee Al may my mind repeatedly and
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is a newly composed verse, and this verse was shared in the group. The devotees, this verse is in the meter sh. I'll try to sing it. [Music] [Music] [Music] The devotees, in this particular verse, Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's lotus mouth is compared to, his mouth is compared to a lotus, and this lotus has eight petals. Dear devotees, on these eight petals, there is some nectar which has come out in eight different ways. This, dear devotees, is that nectar which was produced in eight different ways in the
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therefore all of you are worthy of worship and glorification by myself here is a verse composed for all of [Music] you djaj one of the names of the moon is djaj the moon never gives up Vishnu Vishnu means the sky
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form of eight verses from the eight-petal lotus-like mouth of Bhagavan Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. So you can see on each and every petal, there is some honey that has, you know, that particular honey has come out on each and every lotus petal, and it is
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vaccine similarly dear devotees ohna all of you also never give up Vishnu the lest feet of bhan Sri Krishna whether it is sh loss or Ry Prosperity therefore dear devotees all of you are most worshipable for myself because you never give up the Lotus feet
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very important to preserve this honey. There was somebody who preserved this honey for all of us. Dear devotees, it was protected with great efforts by, Suasa, by the most intelligent Shri Rupa Goswami. Shri Rupa Goswami was the first personality
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I have to offer dear devotees R my go go means cow is rasah it is devoid of rasa it is devoid of milk and Shakti it is devoid of strength katam how is it that she will ever be adita respected by gopala VAR
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who preserved these verses in written form in his literature named Shali. So it is by the mercy of Shri Rupa Swami Prad that today we have access to Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's teachings. And after Sri Rupa Swami preserved it, then there were
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rasah is devoid of rasa joyous moods and Shakti it is devoid of the power of good expression katam how will such speech never be respected by gopal VAR the most excellent SRI gopal Krishna and T PRI and his dear
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many commentators beginning with Shri Krishnadas Kaviraj Goswami, who composed many verses in the Chaitanya Charitam to explain Shri Shikshashtakam. And besides Shri Krishnadas Kaviraj Goswami, there are various other commentators such as Shri Vandra Goswami, Shakti Vinod Thakur Mahashay, Shri Vishwanath Chakravarti Thakur, Shakti Siddhanta Saraswati Thakur, many other vnas have made this honey even more tasty in all ways by adding their particular flavors to this particular text. Dear devotees, like a bumblebee, may my mind repeatedly and
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that prag g we we have to study even though we're unqualified because it's how we become qualified of course you are most qualified no I I specified my go is devoid of Russ and is devoid of shi my
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excessively lick that lotus nectar, eight-petal lotus nectar, Shikshashtakam. With this prayer, I am beginning this particular series of talks on Shikshashtakam. Of course, no talk can begin without offering obeisances to the audience and glorifying the audience, dear devotees.
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presentation or whatever is spoken incorrectly sh may all of that be kindly tolerated and forgiven by the Learned Souls dear devotees this is my prayer before I begin to each and every one of you I offer this prayer still I am engaging in
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Therefore, all of you are worthy of worship and glorification by myself. Here is a verse composed for all of you. [Music] Djaj, one of the names of the moon, is Djaj. The moon never gives up Vishnu. Vishnu means the sky
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ganga even purd sewer water attains purity dear devotees this is my hope you can see the image on the left the powerful flow of the ganga and then there is a tiny flow of putrid sewer water but gradually that flow becomes purified by
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where the feet of Bhagavan Vishnu, the feet of Bhagavan, land reach. Therefore, one of the names of the sky is Vishnu. So the moon never gives up Vishnu, the sky, even during whether it is raining or dry, whether it is
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words my faltering words will definitely attain Purity dear devotees with this confidence I pay obces to the commentators who help me de devotees their explanations acted as a boat for me and gam I was able to cross shik
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vacant. Similarly, dear devotees, oh, all of you also never give up Vishnu, the lotus feet of Bhagavan Sri Krishna, whether it is loss or prosperity. Therefore, dear devotees, all of you are most worshipable for myself because you never give up the lotus feet
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over the vast ocean of sh shik shasham without which I would have drowned in this ocean very easily de devotees in this series of talks dear devotees we have a very gradual approach just as we took in Shri
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of Sri Krishna. Thank you for kindly being here. All of you are worshipable for me, dear devotees. At the same time, I have a doubt on myself. This doubt is that I'm not sure if Bhagavan will accept whatever
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a subash verse as [Music] follows the Sanskrit subash says giving up hundreds of other tasks one should eat at a proper time there may be many things to do at the time of eating but when there is proper time of eating
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I have to offer, dear devotees. R my go, go means cow. Rasah, it is devoid of rasa. It is devoid of milk and Shakti, it is devoid of strength. Katam, how is it that she will ever be respected by Gopala Var,
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and when there is suitable time for giving charity such as akaya the devotees one should give up hundreds of thousands of other tasks and give suitable charity but but when it comes to worshiping bhagan Hari one should give up 10
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the topmost cowherd men and their dear ones? A cowherd respects a cow when she is full of milk and she is full of energy. The devotees, this verse has a hidden meaning. My go, another meaning of go is speech. Rasah is devoid of rasa, joyous moods, and Shakti, it is devoid of the power of good expression. Katam, how will such speech ever be respected by Gopal Var, the most excellent Sri Gopal Krishna and TPRI and his dear
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this series of presentations dear devotees the name of the text is Shri chaitanya shasham and in short it is known as shikshashtakam just as beima is sometimes simply known as beima so Shan shik is simply sometimes known as sh
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devotees? This is my doubt, dear devotees, and with this doubt, ideally, I should pause here because one should not proceed if they have doubts in their own capability. So Damar Mahu, I think we should pause here. What should we do? We can't either
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Chait means chanaa chaitanya the living one himself is known as chaitan anyone who truly living is known as chaitanya this is formed using the Sanskrit grammar suffix sh so chaitan means somebody who's truly living the devotees in this age of
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that prag g, we have to study even though we're unqualified because it's how we become qualified. Of course, you are most qualified. No, I specified my go is devoid of rasa and is devoid of shakti. My
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one and Shri chaitan means Shri Yuka chaitanya chaitanya who is eternally equipped with Shri auspiciousness lakmi Prosperity Beauty so Shri Yuka chaitanya is Shri chaitan your devotees Shri chaitan has given shika his essential teachings and shika mean shikshanam
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speech doesn't have rasa and shakti, and how can such speech be respected by the vnas? But still, I will try. Therefore, I request forgiveness from all of you in advance. Yet still, I will engage my speech in describing Shikshashtakam. Whatever is missed out in this
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suffix using Pini Sutra the devotees it becomes as set of eight and then it becomes shika Asam shika Asam the ashtakam of versus the oate of versus that best shika is known as shika asham the middle term PR it disappears
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presentation or whatever is spoken incorrectly, Sh may all of that be kindly tolerated and forgiven by the learned souls. Dear devotees, this is my prayer before I begin. To each and every one of you, I offer this prayer. Still, I am engaging in
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shasham Chan's octet of essential teachings this is the meaning of Shri chitan shasham the devotees this particular shikshashtakam was originally compiled by shria Rupa go Swami in his compilation of verses known as Shri padali and in the padali SRI Rupa Swami did not
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describing Shri Shikshashtakam. The devotees, I have some confidence. [Music] By coming in contact with Gavani, with Shikshashtakam, the words of Shanga Mahaprabhu, my words will certainly attain purity just as Ganga Prayoga, in the powerful flow of the
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devotees previous to Shri rag Swami and Shri Rupa Goos Swami has compiled them and arranged them topic wise so the eight verses of the shikshashtakam originally appeared in the padavali of Shri ragos Swami which is a compilation an anthology of
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Ganga, even putrid sewer water attains purity. Dear devotees, this is my hope. You can see the image on the left, the powerful flow of the Ganga, and then there is a tiny flow of putrid sewer water, but gradually that flow becomes purified by
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Pali the third verse TR is the immediate next 32nd verse of pavali now the next three Verses 4 5 6 they are not in sequence in the padali the fourth verse is verse number 94 in padali the fifth
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the flow of the Ganga. Similarly, the Shikshashtakam is a huge ocean, and my voice is nothing compared to that. So, dear devotees, I have this hope that in the powerful flow of the Ganga of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's
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verses that we find in shik shasham that we commonly sing today are not in sequence in the padali the middle three verses 456 are out of sequence so dear devotees the original source is Shri padali and Shri padali does not mention
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words, my faltering words will definitely attain purity. Dear devotees, with this confidence, I pay obeisances to the commentators who help me. Dear devotees, their explanations acted as a boat for me, and I was able to cross Shikshashtakam,
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padali while compiling these verses this is a scan of the original Chan Char of theam the first verse CH Ana 20.12 this is CH devotees and I have highlighted it P verse number 22 of Pali this is the in
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the ocean of Shri Shikshashtakam. So, using the boat of their explanations, I w
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this this mention of padali is not there in the BBT Edition but at least in the previous editions of Chan charitam such as the god Edition and all previous editions the credit to padali has been given so dear
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devotees in this way SRI krishnadas kabiraj goswami has given the credit to Shri Rupa Goos Swami for collecting these verses in his compilation named Shri padali but there it was not known as shika ashtakam it was Shri krishnadas
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kabiraj Goos Swami who gave the label shikshashtakam the devotees because these were the eight verses which chananya Maha prabu specifically relished very much during the final part of his journey on this planet in order to understand that dear
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devotees this sequence that is specified by SRI krishnadas kavaj go Swami should be understood SRI krishnadas kaviraj go Swami very clearly says in [Music] mahu composed those eight stanzas to instruct the devotees the devotees this is the primary purpose he composed it
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not only to instruct the devotees another purposes but he also personally tasted their meaning this verse your devotees specifies that chananya Maha pru had comp had composed these verses and he t brought these verses to the devotees and
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he relish them there is an alternate reading to this particular verse of the Chan charitam which says mahu sequentially compos these eight stanzas to instruct the devotees and he also personally tasted their meanings so you can see the the
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alternate reading is also there in the Bangla those who study Bangla you can see in the middle of the first line CR is given CR means the sequence that we find shikshashtakam today that was the sequence in which SRI chaan Maha pru
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composed it so there is indication by SRI krishnadas kabiraj Goos Swami that the shikshashtakam was composed in a particular sequence and that is the sequence in which SRI krishnas kabiraj Goos Swami has recorded it but that may not be the sequence in which SRI Rupa
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Goos Swami has recorded it in the padali but the sequence in which SRI Krishna Das kabiraj kwami recorded it is the sequence in which the eight verses were composed and relished by Shri chananya Maha pru so this is the understanding
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that we get by reading Shri chanar dear devotees sometimes there is a misconception that Shri chananya Maha pru composed only eight verses this is a fairly common misconception that there is no other composition by Shri chananya Maha prabu so this misconception should
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not be present with us because SRI ragos Swami himself in the padali has collected other verses from Sri Chan mahu many of us might have heard this verse which is from Sri chananya Maha pru but not a part of the shikshashtakam
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this verse is in the meter Manda [Music] [Music] this verse is also by SRI Chan Mah pru but de Damar mahau is this verse a part of shik shasham no propa G it's not no so then SRI chananya Maha pru has composed nine
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verses not eight and this is the translation of this ver kindly read the translation I am neither a Brahman nor acria nor AA nor Audra I am neither a brahmachari nor a gasta nor a vasta nor a syasi however I certainly am a lowly
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servant following in the footsteps of the servant of the servant of the two Lotus feet of that Master of the gopies who is the swelling ocean of the highest and most complete nectar this dear devotees is a verse
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compiled in padavali and S ragos Swami has credited it to bhagavan Shri Chan Maha pru and it is also found inan Char M 13th chapter verse number 1880 so this is the ninth verse composed by SRI chananya Maha prabu and
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ramesar Mah pru do you think we have more versus by Chan Mah pru I think we do PR okay so let's try to see a few other verses dear devotees I'm giving references here because I can't discuss every verse the series of talks is about
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shik shasham I can't go to 9th 10th 11th 12th verses but here is a list of many other verses which were either spoken or composed by Shri chananya Maha you can see adila 16 chapter 182 madhala 1 chapter 21 madala 2 chapter verse
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number 45 madala 11th chapter verse 11 in Ana he speaks something to Sri ragunath Das G Swami in 6th chapter verse 285 it's not it doesn't have a specific meter seems like a paragraph in Ana in 14th chapter 41st verse is there
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in chananya bhagwat also in an 6 chapter verse 124 mahu says so there are many verses composed by sh Chan Maha pru in the Krishna chaan Char of sh murari Gupta the biography of Shri murari Gupta there is Shri
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shivashtakam eight prayers in glorification of bhagan Shiva when Shri chananya Maha prabu visited jagat Puri he entered through baneshwar orisha their devotees whenever one goes to visit a dam in every Dam nearby SRI Krishna you will find a d of
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bhagavan Shiva and therefore s chananya Maha prabu first visited chhatrapal the guardian D bhagan Shiva and paid obces to lingaraj D in bhanwar devotees lingaraj is very Ancient Temple it is not allowed to take photographs of the shivalinga therefore
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I am only showing a painting of the exterior of the temple the devotees here s chananya Maha prabu composed shasham Nam so there are eight verses sh Sham in glorification of bhagan Shiva you can find these in Krishna chaan of Shri
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murari Gupta 3.8.3 to 21 so there are other verses is attributed to mahu PR Etc so there are many verses composed or spoken directly by SRI chaan Maha pru so if there are so many verses why shika Asam why eight
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verses and why were these eight verses selected de devotees and why were these specific eight verses named as Shri shikshashtakam in order to understand that we have to understand very quickly a timeline of chananya Maha pru's Past Times it is mentioned in the Chan
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charitam that sh chananya Maha pru's Journey on this planet was for a duration of a total of 48 years the first half of which 24 years was in the ghast asham childhood pastimes then he got married all of this is mentioned in
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Chan Chara 13th chapter verse number 10 the first 24 years were in Gast Asam and the residence was naad then Shri chaan Maha prabu took SAS and spent the remaining 24 years at nilachal or jagat Puri this is mentioned
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in the immediate next verse Chan Chara 13.11 the devotees the Chan charit mentions [Music] something the Lord had formerly composed these eight verses to teach people in general and now in the later Past Times he personally tasted the meanings of the
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verses which are known as shasham so we can see what is the meaning of Pur previously he composed shasham later he relas shik shasham when we look at his timeline then we can understand what is the meaning of Pur and say that in the
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previous asham in the ghast asham these verses were composed and in the SAS asham these verses were reled by Shri chananya Maha prabu so Shri chaan Maha prabu had composed them during the first 24 years which means their devotees SRI chaan
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Maha pru was an expert composer of such verses by the time he had reached the age of 24 years and not only does it require expert composition skills it also requires some mood and that mood of shrimati radharani
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that has been invested in those verses and to have that mood of shrimati radharani at the age of 4 years is not possible for any ordinary personality it is bhagan who has taken up the mood of shrimati radharani and invested that
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mood in those eight verses and then the latter part of his life in during his SAS Leela he relished those verses in nilachal and the devotees he never said maybe I should have changed this term to this term no
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no no whatever he composed it remained perfect as it is throughout his life theot is there was no change specified by him in the shik shasham now dear devotees this was the first half where he was in naad and the
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second half where he was in Puri let's look in detail about his residence in Puri it is specified in the same chapter adila 13.12 that 6 years of the final 24 years the first 6 years he was doing yatra he
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was traveling in many places throughout India especially in the southern part of India so if we deduct 6 years from 24 years we are left with 18 years so the remaining 18 years J devotees he was residing at jagat Puri and not traveling
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the first 6 years he traveled and the final 18 years he had he resided at jagat Puri without traveling much then dear devotees amongst those 18 years also it is mentioned that six years he spent in Kiran and teaching the
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devotees now Dam M if six is deducted from 18 how many years are remaining 12 12 years are remaining the devotees in the final 12 years years of his life he relished shisha so dear devotees this is the time
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the final 12 years of his life that he was relishing these eight verses in the mood of Sri Raha so when we look at the detailed timeline of Shri chitan Maha prabu we can see that even during his SAS Leela
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he did not get sufficient time during the first six years because he was constantly traveling and when you are constantly traveling you don't have companions with whom you can sit down and discuss something of quality so he did not have his near and
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dear companions when he was traveling for those six years and then even after he came back to Puri he spent six more years taking care of the devotees teaching them how to perform Kiran teaching them how to do
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their sad biti and then only 12 years are remaining in his life the devotees when 12 years were remaining in his life at that point of time he got a message from Shri Adit aara so he had spent 24 years in gasta
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life plus 6 years traveling 24 + 6 is 30 plus 6 years in instructing the devotees 36 years so after at the age of 36 chananya Maha prabu received a friendly reminder a gentle reminder from ad AAR what reminder this reminder was in
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the form of a cryptic message because ad AAR was very expert at composing cryptic messages s Adit aara sent a message through the hand of Shri jagadananda Pandit and this message was received by SRI chaitanya Maha prabu in jagat Puri
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it is described in [Music] the ad achara was very expert in writing versus Sonet t on the spot EXT tempor he used to write prah prah means like a riddle riddle versus equivocal language only M could understand but
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others could not and what was the message before he wrote his cryptic verse he told jag jag [Music] first offered namaskar hundreds and thousands of namaskar OB M now he submitted something at the Lotus feet of CH Mah pru Mah prabu 36
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years have passed 12 12 years are remaining ad aara knew this fact you are in the final 12 years of your past times on this planet said [Music] [Music] mahu kindly read the translation please inform Shri chaitanya maharu who is acting like a madman that
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everyone here has become mad like him inform him also that in the Marketplace Rice is no longer in demand so when jagan saw this verse he laughed because he could not understand the meaning of the verse Adit achar is very
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expert in writing cryptic verses this verse reached chananya Maha pru after chananya Maha pru had finished 36 years of his existence on this planet de devotees here is the hidden meaning say this to the madman is calling mahu a mad
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man say Loa all people have become mad in love of Krishna here in naad all of them have become mad because of your preaching in because of your spreading Haram everybody has received love of Krishna here in naad from where
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ad a sending the message tell this to the mad man R which is Krishna PR can no longer be sold in the heart the market of Love inaugurated by Maha prabu it is saturated everybody has received Krishna PR now there is no more demand in the
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marketplace then [Applause] [Music] [Music] said kindly read the translation further tell him that those now mad and ecstatic love are no longer interested in the material world also tell shanya Maha pru that one who has also become a madman and ecstatic
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loveu has spoken these words so again a cryptic verse the meaning is B tell the tell to the mad man when it comes to work of selling rice there is no more engagement remaining everybody in received rice the
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meaning of rice is love of Krishna and B tell this to the mad man that this is spoken by another mad man I also received it finally I who had called you I have the right of telling you that
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the purpose for which I called you is done that's it so the indication behind the message is your external purpose is overan Maha pru you came for two reasons one was the external purpose and Dames mahu the extrinsic purpose or the
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external purpose what was the external purpose of Shri chananya Maha pru to teach ragab Baki to the whole world right to teach to spread har Nam to teach ragab bakti to the entire world and what is the internal
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purpose to relish the mood of Shati rajarani so Shri ad aara is saying that enough of the preaching now external purpose is done now in the remaining 12 years of life what should SRI chananya Maha pru do so Shri Chan Maha pru in the
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remaining 12 years of life should now dedicate himself to relishing his inner purpose that is the mood of Sri Radha therefore we see in the final 12 years of his life Chan Maha pru relished the mood of shrimati
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radharani and dear devotees thean charitam itself mentions something as soon as Maha pru read those messages say [Music] from that day onwards Mah's emotional state changed remarkably it changed his feelings of separation from Krishna doubled in intensity so this is
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in the same chapter after a few verses he he receives ad aar's message and after a few verses it says from that day onwards CH Maha pru changed this is the second last chapter of Chan charitam the devotes Ana chapter 19 and
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then only the final chapter remains chapter 20 is sh shik shasham the Final Chapter ofan charitam so the final 12 years of Sri chananya Maha pru's life were spent in relishing the mood of Sri Radha especially the eight verses of sh shik
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shasham and this dear devotees is why we call it shika ashtakam because these specific eight verses were relished the most by Shri chitan Maha prabu in the final 12 years of his life the devotes in those 12 years s chananya
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Maha pru resided in a very specific place which is named gambhira the chaan charitra describes [Music] pru feeling separation from Krishna Mah pru was so distraught in great anxiety he stood up he began rubbing his face against the
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walls of the gambhir their devotees the chambers in which s chaan Maha pru is going to relish the shasham has a name this name dear devotees is gambhira what is the meaning of gambhira we need to understand the location also at which
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SRI Chan Maha prabu relished Shri shik shasham the place is named gum be ra and I was very fortunate I got access to a very very rare manuscript in which the meaning of gambir is explained dear devotees the meaning usually
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gambhira means the inner chamber of any particular home is known as gambhira but this gambhira also has a very specific meaning because this was Shri Kashi mishra's home the inner chambers of Shri Kashi mish's home is known as gambhir
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the devotees but gambhira also means gum B ra g g means g b means bam ra means ra g g g means thinking of Separation be means bam great anxiety ra rati is shown by her who is that personality Damar
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Maha pru who shows great anxiety on the thought of separation from Shri Krishna sharani there for dear devotees gambhira is actually a name of Sri Radha the entire chamber is nothing but the mind of Sri Radha and in that mind of Sri
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Radha SRI chananya Maha pru spent the final 12 years of his life this is the scan of the manuscript those of us who can read deag can see GHA it is written there the is this is the meaning of gambir it's a handwritten
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manuscript but very rare manuscript that I got access to which gives this breakdown of the term gambhir so dear devotees one of the meanings of gambhir is that the entire chamber is nothing but the mood of Sri Radha within that
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chamber SRI chananya Maha prabu resided for 12 years and relish the mood of shrimati radharani this was the location dear devotees but alone he will not attain Joy he needs some companions but not hundreds not thousands he needs very few he needs two
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companions who can relish along with him and who have the expertise to reciprocate with his mood to sing songs that are favorable to his mood to not spoil or disturb his mood by singing inappropriate verses or songs de
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devotees these two confidential Associates have been mentioned in ch [Music] charam for 12 years dasri Mah pru remained in that state day and night the devote is mainly in that chamber of gambir it is specified that sometimes he would not sleep at night in
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the gambhira throughout the night he would relish the mood of Sri Radha but not alone there would be two friends with two friends he tasted Krishna Ras he tasted Krishna B Ras the devotees these two friends are Shri swar damodar
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goswami who is specified in literature such as ganesa as Shri vishaka and there was Shri Ray ramanand who is Sri Lita the devotees our bhagan SRI Krishna in the mood of Sri Radha SRI swarup damodar go Swami in
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the mood of Sri vishaka and Shri Ray ramananda in the mood of Sri Lita the devotes these three Personalities in the gambhira relish the mood of Sri Radha and in This Way the final 12 years of Sri Chan mAh prau were spent in
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fulfilling his inner purpose ad achara said I have invited you so I can dictate before you go you have to finish relishing your inner mood and now is the time at his 36th year he got a message from ad AAR and from 36 to
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48 was the time he relished his Past Times these past times in gambir with SRI swup damodar G Swami and Shri Ray ramananda the devotees previous to this he had spoken shasham in a general way along with his other verses so shupa
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Swami collected all of those verses in padali therefore you find them out of sequence but in the gambir there was a specific sequence and that sequence is recorded by SRI Krishna Das kaviraj Goos Swami and that sequence consisted of
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eight verses and that sequence is shik shash and therefore we have specific respect for those eight verses they may not be the only eight verses composed by Chan Maha pru but they are the most important eight verses composed
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by S Chan Maha pru so the devotees in this chamber of gambir Sri chaitanya Maha prabu started relishing the shik [Music] [Music] VI [Music] Krishna [Music] [Music] [Music] n [Music] [Music] m [Music] [Music] s [Music] [Music] [Music] a
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[Music] [Music] [Music] in this way dear devotees these eight verses were relased by Shri chananya Maha pru in the gambhira during the final 12 years of his journey in this particular world all the meters have been mentioned here all
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the references have been given here de devotees this is Shri shik shasham I welcome all of you on this journey where we will explore s Chan mahu shasham there will be many commentaries which we will take into consideration the purport by his divine
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grace AB charar B vant Swami sh prad the anuti anasia commentaries of Shakti San sarasti takur Prat the Gali commentary sodan Basha of Shakin takur mahash besides that there is the Sanskrit short commentary by vishan chakari takur there's another short
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tipani Ananda chandria then there is the Sanskrit commentary on Shri padavali by Shri Chandra Goos Swami he has commented on all the verses of the padavali so definitely he comments on the shik shasham because the entire shik shasham appears in the padali so we have
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the commentary of Shri V Chandra Goos Swami from the family of Shri Nan pru your devotees these and many other realizations will be bought out in this particular set of talks on SRI Chan Maha pru's sh shasham dear devotes in this way I'd
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like to pause the introductory session thank you very much y if there's anything mistaken in what I said with all learned devotees kindly correct it if there's anything nice please remember gur I received all of it from my gurus May nothing belongs to me thank
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you very much dear devotees before I conclude I'd like to specify in the very beginning that this series of talks is meant for all vnav janas who are sincerely interested in learning and understanding sh Mah pru shik the series of talks is not affiliated to
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any particular group and organization is not meant for promotion or criticism of any individual or group de devotees even during question and answers we will try to ensure that we do not promote or critique any particular institution or group we are friendly to
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all godia vnas inimical To None the devotees not for the promotion of any individual or any particular group devotees if in any particular talk I specify something from my shika gurus or from my dsha Guru it is just to give a
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reference it is not for promoting those individuals the devotees this series of talks is not being done with any expectation of a fixed remuneration you are free to attend all the talks and there is no fixed charge that will be asked from you but there
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will be some provision for those who wish to give some Daka and there will be some announcements made from time to time within the group so please keep your eye on the group and if you are contacted independently by any
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individual for any lxmi please do not pay any attention to such an individual dear devotees and if you wish to join the group if you are listening to this as a recording if you wish to join the group there's an email address you can
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write an email to this particular address and give your WhatsApp number and we'll add you to the group thank you very much dear devotees har Krishna thank you so much dear har pru for a really really wonderful class you
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really um you give the textual context of shik shasam but you also set the scene for the whole thing I'm really grateful for just the combination of your scholarly research but also also the sweetness of it it's really a
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wonderful combination we rarely see and I'm I'm so excited for the rest of this series thank you very much for all the work you've already put into it thank you we're going to thank you we're going to transition
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now into questions and answers uh but first we have a few requests uh rules and requests in regards to how we conduct the Q&A I'm just going to show right here uh so we just ask that you focus
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your questions on today's class uh I know har parer was a great scholar and many people have a lot of questions they would love to ask him including myself but we just want to focus on today's presentation in particular as he said
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already we don't want to bring up any particular person or Institution for example um someone might say well in your class you said this but in our vice number group we do we do this or this Guru does this and so we don't want to
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ask any questions like that um also there's lots of people who want to ask questions and so we ask that you keep it short by asking one question or just a a quick followup of necessary but not question after question or very
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very um involved questions that would require an entire another class and lastly if your class if your question is about something very specific um perhaps a specific word and a specific text that you read in your own time but
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wasn't in today's presentation and is somehow related uh it's probably better to put it in the group so we have time to research yeah is there anything else that you want to add propery the thing is the group is now nearing a thousand
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members and there's a reason why I have locked the group the reason is because if we start having discussions amongst thousands of people and it will become very difficult because with three or 400 devotees we were struggling to maintain
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the Q&A with a thousand people we will struggle even more so I have a good solution which uh I have thought about there will be a separate group for devotees who don't mind question and answers and who want to you know who can
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ask all the question and answers in that separate group and some devote can post a daily summary from that group into the shikshashtakam groups so that can be done if anybody wants I will create a separate group for question and answers
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for those who want to discuss question and answers in those group in that particular group there will be many messages being exchanged those devotees who are okay with so many messages being exchanged they can join that Q&A group
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and that I'll create and I'll share and from that group every day there will be some update which will be posted to the main shik shash group in that way those devotees who are are part of the main
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shik shasham group will also not be left out from the Q&A and in case they want to join the Q&A group they are most welcome a link will be provided to them so I hope that will work out good and
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those devotees who don't want to be disturbed by the constant barrage of question and answers can stay quietly in the Shri shik shasham group in that way we all have our own place and everybody's happy so I think that should
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work out good and again this uh new group will be posted in the existing threat if any if any unknown individual contacts you with another group that's not posted there just ignore it yeah you it only the moderators are able to post
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if anybody's individually contacting you please do not listen to them the group is not going to get hacked or anything the group is going to remain in control of the entire Series so that is it excellent and so now we will
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officially begin Q&A uh there are actually some questions that were put into the um chat but I have to read through it so we're going to start with bakine dorthia kishna accept I'm so happy to be a part of this
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uh s and so happy to be uh live here after um having listened to the whole sh series uh after it had already ended so very grateful and U uh very well prepared very U like um exactly the
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right amount of uh taste that we need to hanker for the next session and uh so um my question would be uh um where um is there a reference for um that that mahu actually relished theik shik shash uh the
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most like that that that was his focus at the K right so thank you so much first and foremost I'd like to thank you for kindly attending sadesh amam Series in totality that series itself self was you know um a major effort and it is also an
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effort to listen to all the talks so definitely um my sincere thanks to you also for the SAA the volunteer SAA that you're kindly rendering with mjeri ma for the transcription and uh the question is um is there a reference that sh Mah pru
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was relasing those specific verses uh in the gambhir will the entire final chapter of Chan charitam is about the name is shasham so that itself is an indicator that the main moods that were being relased in the gambir were
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centered around Shri shikshashtakam and uh various feelings which are known as Ura which will be disc discussed in the upcoming talks were coming up in Shri chananya Maha prabu and as the moods came up in Shri Chetan maharu he kept
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singing a verse so one particular mood comes Hera Joy comes up he sings suddenly daa comes up the mood of humility comes up he sings namari so with every mood that comes up in chananya Maha pru he starts
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singing a particular verse spontaneously and then the says that day and night he tasted transcendental Blissful songs and verses with two Associates namely SW damodar G Swami and Ray ramanan but these two Associates used to sing in accordance
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with his mood so primarily his mood was centered around these eight verses and then around these eight verses there was many other moods that came up but primarily it was centered around these eight therefore these are the eight
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primary verses which were AR of course so many other songs JV goswami vidyapati chandi Das we'll try to see if he can incorporate some of those in the presentations I'm not a good singer but I I still sometimes try all right so
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we'll try to see but these were the eight primary versus all right I hope that is satisfactory all right so I've gone through the chat and I believe we've answered all the questions there if you have a question that hasn't been
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addressed in the chat and you're shy to raise your hand uh please just write it in again there is there is a question in the chat which says we have always read the word tanuja but you kindly mentioned tanu with the
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long o kindly put light on this of course it is the long o otherwise the meter will break when we come to that verse we will see how vogini or Sundar the meter requires you to have the long
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oo in tanuja anybody who's singing it with short oo is making a mistake in singing the meter so dear devotees we will discuss that we will come to the metrics of each and every verse when we come to that particular verse all right
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thank you and one last thing we'll probably have a lot of questions and so I just request that you keep your words of appreciation concise uh so that we're able to get to everyone and and go quickly to your question next we have
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jaru for kindly considering request of devotees and starting this wonderful series again and really and delighted that you started this so looking for so many wonderful sessions ahead I'm very thankful pru and just one request no difficult grammar questions only shik
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shasham questions because you're very good grammar thank you so much for I Stand nowhere in front of you for grammar for that also thank you actually my question was that uh as you mentioned that ad aara sent a very crypted uh message to Shan M
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pru so I just wanted to ask is there any hidden message for the sadakas also in that because uh or was it actually there that nobody actually was left who could be priest so or is there any hidden
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message for the sakas also that they should also at a certain point of time should take out time for their uh personal dment course aar's message was specifically meant for CH mahu but since the message is now in public domain and we can take
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some lessons from the message the lesson that we can take from the messages that uh sometimes when you become widely accepted as a great devote as a as very close to bhagan and then you may spend a lot of time doing prar but uh you should
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definitely have quality time doing your own Bajan especially in the final part of one's life one should follow Shri chaan Maha pru and do one's Bajan very seriously so that definitely can be extracted from the message ofar and CH
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mahau did as it is CH Mah pru could have said no I want to die while preaching give up this that's not the mood that CH mahu had CH mahu listened to sh ad AAR I quoted the verse that
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from that day onward sh Mah pru's mood changed and you know he became more internal more serious it's glorious also to say you know I want to preach Till the Last Breath of my life but Chan mahu's mood is different CH mahu's mood
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is the last part of your life Ana that is of CH mahu's life was spent in relishing Krishna bti Ras so those of us who are following in his footsteps we should also try to emulate we cannot imitate but we can emulate the mood of
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sh CH all right but who knows whether we are fortunate enough to have somebody like ad AAR remind us you know we may not have so so we need to have that personality who can and slightly pull our ear and say
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enough now focus on your baj that is needed I hope that answers your query thank you so thank you next we have shach Chandra puu so generally it is understood that you know laet only composed eight verses but however as you mentioned there are
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many more verses come I know composed by him and also there are some attributed works right like for example prasan I don't know if that is also if that is it also has a different name of you know
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Ras by V commentary I don't know if they are both referring to the same thing but anyway there are some attributed works also right yeah right yeah there is there is radar raser which is attributed to him pram R is attributed to him there
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are some other verses attributed to him it said some he wrote a literature on N shastra there's a verse in that also but these are Frankly Speaking attributed verses the confirmed verses I mentioned in the slide are from Chan charitam and
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Chan bhagwat and even in those verses I specified either they are spoken by him or composed by him one verse is clearly composed by him narti that verse is clearly composed by him because it in the padali it is
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written that it is composed by Chan Mah pru other versus might have been spoken by him or composed by him we don't know that is but yeah but but even if you put them all together actually if you
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compare you know with any other personalities like a famous personality spiritual personalities appear during his time it is still very less I mean the number of Works which is attributed to him so is there any reason why such a
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less work is being you know know contributed by such a great personality the reason why such a personality as Mah pru has given so less number of works is because the the exterior external or extrinsic purpose and intrinsic purpose
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the extrinsic purpose was to spread it amongst the masses to spread it amongst the masses you don't need heavy philosophical literature you just need to do Haram San and the intrinsic purpose is to relas the mood of sria so
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that he did but for establishing the backbone of the samprada you need a lot of intellect ual literature and that happened in the form of the contribution of Sri Rupa Goos Swami Shri sanatan go Swami and there is a uh verse quoted in
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the Chan charitam I will specify this verse uh I will share my screen so that we can quickly have a look at it this is CC Ana uh 586 mahash vas Mah pru exhibited the glory of Holy Name through SRI haridas takur was born
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in a Muslim family similarly he exhibited the essence of devotional service through sanatan goswami so sanatan goswami was appointed to give the essence of biti in the form of bti sidhant andup PR andup Swami gave the prasa of
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Sri brindavan so who can understand the plans of Shri Chan Mah pru he got it done through his associ so that is the answer to your query I hope that satisfies your query to some degree next we have J
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Manar and all to all the Bas my D I'm really feeling very fortunate to part of this live class by listen youres series offline which was really really relishable I have one basic question maybe you covered it in the beginning of
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the class I join late the meaning why it's called s only I mean I understand eight verses aska for that but why the word s is put where it is talking about the internal mood of Shati radharani that Chan mahu is relishing because Sika
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is very general terms I was thinking I don't know right so shika basically refers to shikan shikshanam means his teaching and why shika it is specified that in the earlier part of his life he Tau Tau these verses to others he gave
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this as shika to the devotees so then it became known as shika Asam gradually the it caught of the name was shika asak and it is shika for the other devotees primarily but later he relased that shika himself so because in the first
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part of his life he gave it as shika to the devotees who were under him therefore it is known as shika that is the reason next we have Raj predic shu are you there yes yes we can he
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yes first of all I'm very grateful to you for starting this new series the shamra series was really excellent my my question is inesh series uh we have discussed that how this raganuga bti is very rare and how it is
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special and uh today you mentioned and it is mentioned in many other uh lectures also that Chan Maha pru gave Krishna PR has come to give Krishna PR to everyone but has he given un R to everyone and we are saying ranak is R
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also so how to understand this and it is mentioned in Chan charam that that all the Jas who were present at the time of Chan Maha pru all were liberated and again new set of Jas were replace so how
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to understand this so there are many questions in this one I think I'll try to tackle one question the first is Chan Maha prabu came to give bti Rus to all the J that was not discussed today maybe in
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upadesam it was discussed today what was discussed is external purpose to spread Haram amongst the society in general and he came to give charh four rasas that is mentioned in and unas which is madas yes he has given
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through his associat such as Shri Rupa Goos Swami Etc but those who are likeminded to Shri Rupa Goos Swami shatan go Swami completely like-minded and there may be devotees who have other Russ also Mah pru has given sakas also
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there are many branches of Shri chananya Maha pru who have sakya RAs within them so it's not that he came only to give maduya Rus there are branches which also have specialization in sakya and other russes there are literatures pertaining
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to sakas one literature I can name is prak rasar prak rasar is a godia literature pertaining to sakas it's not that he came only to give Maduras but primarily you can say he gave mad us to his near and dear ones that is the
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answer to your query and that second one about all Jas getting liberated well that's a very detailed discussion because we have to refer to the commentaries on that the commentators and there are various commentators on that and they have specified what is the
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meaning of everybody got liberated and new set of Jus came in but I think right now is not feasible for that because you know we just in beginning shasham so uh maybe when we come to that particular section or if there is some occasion on
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we can discuss that then maybe we can take it up at that particular point of time thank you so much but Lord Chana came to give Krishna PR to everyone what does it mean har Krishna pru he's already
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addressed your question I'm sorry we're going to go to the next person is that okay Haru yeah I'll just make a quick statement just he came to give Krishna PR to everyone yes for those who are eligible to receive it there were many
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who turned away it's mentioned in ch Char they may not get what is the exact meaning of everybody got Krishna PR that has to be discussed but that is a bigger discussion so I think we should move ahead from that particular
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point Thank you next we have a question in the chat from Vish Karu and he says can you say more about the sitas for of ramanand deoy andup dadaros Swami because sometimes for ramanand deoy it is said he is vishaka
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and sometimes Lolita right so um in the ganes tipa it is specified that SRI swod is vishaka saki whereas in shanandra go Swami's P he specified as Lita and then the opposite is for Sri Ray ranan but the primary reference is
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from gor DEA of Shri kabi Kapur so I'm considering that as the primary reference so SRI swup damodar is Sri vishaka sakian is L that is the understanding that I have taken in this particular slideshow although some other devotees
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such as shrihan Chandra Goos Swami have a different understanding but whenever two different devotees have two different understandings you can stick with any one devote Vian calls it udit anit um but I there's no time to get into
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that but you can stick with any one particular devote Whenever there is a difference of opinion so I prefer to stick to what Shri kabi Kapur has said in gika I think that answers the C and either way there are Lolita and
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vishaka yeah either way yeah both of them are present that's what matters next we have a question from Anusha she's also written in the chat but I assume she'll address that live sure har Krishna prams thank you so much
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for the ne class um my doubt is that we had discussed during the session that formally the verses were composed for the people in general and later on the very same verses were relased by Maha prabu for about 12 years is what we
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learned so how could the same object of um matter be a source of of uh learning or preaching as well as a source of uh uh like B in uh uh in rad b or was there every uh was there radab b or some other
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inner meaning hidden behind every verse because of which uh Maha prabu experienced relished it for 12 years or uh is there altogether a total uh difference uh between uh the moods of the general public and the mood with
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which Maha prabu experienced uh please forgive me for the flaws and the asking of question so the thing is that the verses are fully drenched in the mood of Sri RHA including chetto but uh it has to be bought out
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Speaker A
therefore when we come to the individual verses we will see how some of the verses are applicable more to the sadakas but they are also applicable to Shri Chan Maha pru's inner mood as of relishing Sri rha's mood and some verses
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Speaker A
are just directly applicable to S Chan Maha pru's inner feelings but mainly he started teaching these verses to the devotees who were training under him because CH Maha pru had a policy that he will teach devotees Ragan NOAB bti that
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Speaker A
is his policy he was not one the one to teach devotees by thei so his policy was any devotees under him will be taught raganuga because he was a full-fledged supporter of the path of ragab bakti therefore all
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Speaker A
these verses were taught so that devotees would learn how to empathize with the mood of Sri Radha it is very important for a godia VNA to learn how to empathize with the mood of Sri Radha otherwise they will not be able to
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Speaker A
understand what is the methodology with which s Radha worship SRI Krishna s RHA served SRI Krishna CH Maha prau taught it to the devotees because uh it is described in the mahu said how many fruits can I carry I have to distribute to others
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Speaker A
these fruits are nothing but the fruits of the moods of Shri rata so I hope that answers your query next we have a question from prant wagre thanks for this wonderful class and this new session your starting Pro
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Speaker A
uh Pro I have one small question this is regarding to when uh you showed the versus of AD achara giving the cryptic message to Chan mahu if we just go a bit back we have seen that ad aara Wasing shikan t
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Speaker A
for for worshiping sh gang so that Maha pru comes and live he preaches so the because the Jas are suffering but here we seen just after 12 around 36 years when Maha pru's preaching is still going on this message
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Speaker A
was given can you a bit elaborate more because looks like all the the preaching has not been completed till now or the message was not completed till now so what actually triggered this what triggered Adit aara cryptic message
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Speaker A
in naad everybody had come to know about Chan Maha pru's message everybody knew about Chan Maha pru's message so many uh preachers of Haram had gone throughout Bengal East Bal and they were now spreading the movement everywhere so at
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Speaker A
least the birthplace of chananya Maha pru was fully saturated ad AAR said now henceforth everybody else will take care now you don't have to go to each and every place in India and do it your followers will do it for you and then
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Speaker A
because if you try to do it then you'll have to stay for perhaps another 5 to 600 years and then mahu will also have to carry out the role of other devotees who spread Krishna Nam throughout the world that is not what CH Maha pru is
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Speaker A
supposed to do his external mission is complete he has spread it through the to his own village to his own to his own state of Bengal and then everybody else will take care now sh chananya Maha pru please retire and please pursue your
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Speaker A
inner purpose so that is what triggered it that I had specified right forgive me if I say it wrong but next we have a question from Esther San har Krishna uh I would like to ask uh thank you
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Speaker A
first very much and I would like to ask you if you can explain uh how how it was do you do we understand that it was revealed to krishnaswami so many years later that he can write it down to to all of us what
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Speaker A
was going on in gambir because there were only three of them and uh if and then a question next to this is uh connected to it uh uh in what mood we approach that Holy place when we come there and what what our
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Speaker A
mood should be thank you very much so uh how did Shri krishnadas kavir go Swami come to know about this shik and you know basically the sources of Sri krishnadas kaviraj go Swami are the six go swamis sh Rupa go Swami SRI sanatan
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Speaker A
go Swami sh ragunath Das G Swami ragunath bwami J G Swami sh gopal bwami these are the sources from whom he came to know about the various pastimes that took place because s Rupa Swami kept a very close eye over whatever is
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Speaker A
happening uh in jaganath Puri although SRI Rupa Swami was told to come to Shri vavan but he had all the news from jagat Puri and Sh Rupa Goos Swami frequently used to tell SRI J Goos Swami everything and sh go Swami is photographic memory
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Speaker A
that is sh J he not forget a single detail sha go Swami has a photographic memory and then s go Swami tells sha krishnadas kaviraj goswami that although Pali has the verses out of sequence but the actual sequence is
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Speaker A
shasham and from devotees such as J Swami he you know he he he comes to know and then he takes blessings from everybody all the go swamis and then he composes Chan char and that's how we have it today with us
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Speaker A
so the name shikshashtakam was already popular because the devotees had started saying that CH Maha prabu relish these eight verses the most and this is the sequence of those eight verses so this is what it is your second
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Speaker A
question is uh what should our mood be when we go to gambhira of course we should know Shri chaan Maha pru's mood is the mood of Sri Radha what can we do to serve the mood of Sri Radha
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Speaker A
so what do you do when a certain person is in great distress and this is not Material distress this is basically the distress of Sri RHA what can we do to drive away the distress of Sri Radha so
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Speaker A
we can empathize with her how can we empathize with her by singing songs or verses uh of the moods that she really loves and how do we know well we should know at which times of the day she
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Speaker A
relished which verse well how do we know well the aaras told us or where did they tell us or in Bajan rahas taku told us in which part of the day s CH Mah pru relished which particular verse oh my
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Speaker A
goodness then I visit Kira at a particular time of the day so I should know which particular time of the day I'm visiting gambir and which particular verse is applicable to which particular time of the day so for all the 24 hours
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Speaker A
you have verses which you can sing and relish in the gambir so that is what you know we can that is the reason why Shri bako takur has given us a a complete map of shasham in the Bajan rasia so there
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Speaker A
is one of the books I forgot to mention I had mentioned in the message but in the presentation I forgot to mention Bajan rahasia is an important part of understanding sh shik shasham so we will be doing some things from Bajan rahasia
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Speaker A
too that is very important right thank you thank Youk you next we have a question in the chat from Roes puu curious curious if there's any reason mentioned why in gambir pastimes of chananya maharu he did not closely
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Speaker A
associate with gadar pundit since he was the Incarnation of sh maadarani when mahu's internal reason was sure so why did he not associate with SRI gadad Pandit because gadar Pandit has the mood of shrimati radharani but her mood was taken by CH
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Speaker A
Maha pru upon himself huh when her mood is taken by Chan Mah pru upon himself Chan Mah pru has that mood when a person is distressed does he want to associate with himself or herself or does he want
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Speaker A
some near and dear ones who have a similar so they they don't want to associate with themselves because when they associate with themselves their misery increases they want to associate with like-minded people who are the like-minded people Lita vishaka are the
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Speaker A
like-minded people for Sri RHA if SRI RHA is left alone her misery will increase but if SRI RHA is with Lita vishaka they will sing some verses in order to drive away that misery for that reason he's not associating with his own
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Speaker A
mood is associating with the mood of those who are empathetic to her that is Shri Lita Shri Vish in the form of Shayan andad that is the answer to the query although sh gadar pit is very dear to
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Speaker A
him so that is there is no doubt about it but he finds the most internal Associates are shub Dam so that is the answer to the query Yu asks why is spreading of the Holy Name of Krishna considered an external
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Speaker A
reason for the appearance of Chan Maha prabu when it's the main goal or the main process for sadakas from the sadaka or practitioner's point of view they get Haram that is the biggest achievement for them they got the Perfection of life
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Speaker A
but we have to see from bhagwan's point of view when we Define external and internal purpose who's external and who internal purpose bhagwan's external purpose bhagwan's internal purpose so we have to see from bhagwan's point of view can we look at things from from bagan's
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Speaker A
point of view of course we can look Chan charit looks at things even from bhagwan's point of view so in the Chan charit bagan's point of view is specified bagan's point of view is what is the glory of the love of Sri
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Speaker A
Radha I want to releas that so many so many glories of Sri radha's love I could not relish so I wish to relish that What happiness did she derive so I wish to releasees we saw some of that when they meet at kurra and then
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Speaker A
there were songs by chandidas and then she's thinking about you know next time you have to take upon this mood so in thees we saw some of that mahu wants to relish when we when we just read the verses that he wants to
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Speaker A
release the mood of Sri Radha which exact mood when we don't release that so it becomes a little difficult to connect to it when we start relishing those things likees we had a small taste of the meeting at kururu chetra so when we
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Speaker A
start to relish those things then we can come closer to the heart of Chan Maha pru from the sadaka point of view oh wow I got Haram yeah now I can go back home back to godhead but are you supposed to
98:47
Speaker A
go back home back to God it is that the goal of Life many sadakas will say yes but those who are closest to ch Mah pru's heart will say the most important goal of life is to achieve Krishna PR
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Speaker A
going back to godhead is a side effect of achieving Krishna PR we should not make the side effect as the main goal so many devotees will have that as the main goal going back to godhead that's all right but the main goal is to achieve
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Speaker A
Krishna PR whether we are in this world or we are in the spiritual world we should have Krishan PR so the closer we get to the core of Gia vnis the more our understanding becomes refined and mature and then we
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Speaker A
understand what is the modood of CH prop G how did you come across this handwritten manuscript I'm always searching for manuscripts always searching for manuscripts this to access even one meaning one new meaning will open a Gateway uh that will unlock a mystery
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Speaker A
that will unti not within the heart sometimes it's just one little piece of the puzzle that is remaining and then that gets resolved by that one particular reference so always I have so many things I'm looking for when I find I make sure that I don't
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Speaker A
lose them because if I lose them you can never get it back again so once or twice I found some things and then I lost them and I had to look for many months in order to find them again so that taught
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Speaker A
me a good lesson when you find something good keep it with you don't let it go so that is so I will also it's the the manuscript has a name it's not that that manuscript was without a name I will
100:46
Speaker A
give the name of the manuscript because it's not that just anything I uh any manuscript we came up with this particular manuscript was named vigraha Kos vigraha Kos means vigraha means the eological breakdown of a particular Sanskrit term is known as vigraha so
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Speaker A
vigraha Kos so Kos means a collection a collection of eological meanings this manuscript is called vigraha K and from this particular manuscript I picked it up and uh I can uh try to show this the uh I have a page from the manuscript
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Speaker A
from the person who had written this manuscript uh I can show it very quickly so that devotees can have a glance this is Shri vigraha Kos for those who want to see this is Shri written here on top old style
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Speaker A
deag Shri vigraha Kos and it's a it's a marati manuscript but it it gives Sanskrit meanings for Sanskrit terms so this VG it's a very old style manuscript and in this manuscript I found meaning of it's a very good
102:03
Speaker A
meaning of it looks like it's specifically a Gia vnav atmology and not just a generic Sanskrit one is that right yeah it's specifically applicable to godia vnis because gambir has that meaning uh next we have Sindra Krishna puru
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Speaker A
har Krishna pruj dandavat prams and all to all the vavas it's so great to have your sa along with all the like-minded vnas here and I'm happy to see the family growing so well hope your family is doing well uh thank you so much my
102:40
Speaker A
question you know correct me if I'm wrong but when we I've heard that in chum the prayers from the first to the eth verse go from shda to prma and as you'll elucidate more as the lectures go on seminar goes on in the same way when
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Speaker A
Rupa Goos Swami had composed the pavali for the most part as you said the verses are in order except for the you know maybe a little variation in the fourth fifth and sixth in I don't know much about padavali if it's even in the
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Speaker A
English translation is there authentic but does Rupa Goos Swami also have that going from the beginning to shda to prma in padavali or is just kind of all over okay so uh the Pali consists of topics for example n now the determination of
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Speaker A
devotees and a few verses on that and then Bas then the humility of devotees and a few verses on that so the topics are krishna's sweetness devotees determination devotees humility Pur man Pras sudur Pras all those topics come up
103:52
Speaker A
one by one so so whichever verse fits in which category that particular verse is put in that category in the padali so it's topic wise in the padali therefore you find the sequence a little bit changed in the
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Speaker A
Pali Char is the sequence in which Maha pru reled them now there are there are explanations it goes from shadha to PR this is from a sadaka point of view let's say it goes from shha to does it
104:17
Speaker A
mean that CH Mah pru was experiencing shha when he was singing CH of course not he is experiencing the mood of sria so we have to understand why how so many conflicting meanings can be given to the same sequence the reason is because
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Speaker A
they're seeing from different points of view from the points of view of a sadaka it can go from shha to PR but the main my the Crux of the presentation here is because there are many explanations from sadaka point of view now it's the time
104:49
Speaker A
to get into bhagwan's point of view wants somebody to understand him not that everything is about me from for my shha M said no no that is not the primary reason why Mah wrot primary reason M wrot is for his in
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Speaker A
the M of Sri RHA is's explaining something to SW damodar and R and what is he explaining he's explaining that in kuga San is for the highest benefit what is the highest benefit well that we have to look into
105:23
Speaker A
when we come to CH we'll see what is the highest benefit that the ja can have and then why is CH mahu in the mood of sh RHA if he's in the mood of Sri RHA why is he speaking about San all these
105:36
Speaker A
questions will come up and we'll try to answer those queries great thank you so much BR we can't wait thank you all right um I just wanted to make a more logistical question maybe more question you can take those and come to me at the
106:05
Speaker A
end I didn't want to break the mood and flow of the okay we only have a couple questions in the chat so sure so let's take the questions in the chat and then we'll go to paramu for for
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Speaker A
okay babat pru writes uh shik shashika is naturally connected with Shri chananya Maha pru since he composed it but the verses themselves are connected to Radha and Krishna there's always confusion in me how I should meditate on shik shasham also connected with
106:34
Speaker A
understanding that sh is non different from rata and Krishna could you please explain how does a sadaka meditate on shik shasham in this regard how does a sadaka meditate on shik it's a specified in upadesam a sadaka is not only supposed to have a
106:51
Speaker A
sadak identity a sadak is also supposed to Aspire for a sidha identity so anybody qualified devote can meditate on sik shasham from a sadaka or a sidha point of view both points of view and from both points of view one can try to
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Speaker A
render service unto Shri chananya Maha pru as a sadaka he's Maha pru as a sidha he's Shri RHA so that is the difference between sadaka mood and sidha mood so we can render service to both these moods so that it is possible to do that in
107:21
Speaker A
both ways thank you and I think that is all the questions okay uh we'll go to P mcer puru so maybe you want to Krishna so thank you so much for starting this series it's I am the shoe Shiner of the
107:49
Speaker A
previous AER I there's nothing else I will do what to do with my free time so just do shik otherwise I was I'll waste my time so better to you know know translations of and all that so yeah your time is very very much in
108:14
Speaker A
demand and may future vnas in hundreds and hundreds of years benefit from all your work uh so just maybe one just logistical thing I wanted to say these days uh in the WhatsApp what happens is uh people contact with your
108:36
Speaker A
photo and uh try to say we are making a new group and especially now we are talking about a different group and they ask for a onetime code yeah the anybody asks for onetime code he is 100% scammer
108:54
Speaker A
so never give out onetime code because that is the way to take over your WhatsApp then they you will lose access to your WhatsApp and they will become the owner of your WhatsApp and they will have access to all your
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Speaker A
chats and everything so one time code never give out to anyone even when we are creating this other group you will never be asked for a onetime code right just in mind that one thing onetime code never give out yeah if if anybody is in
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Speaker A
any doubt about the identity of the person contacting you better to avoid such a person that is what it is right so that that is in the the shik group is the de facto group the upadesam group it
109:47
Speaker A
was previously upadesam group we successfully ran it and there were no issues at all we will not need to create a new group huh and that group will remain the defacto group once that group reaches its maximum capacity we may have
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Speaker A
another second group shik shasham 2 but the announcement will be made by the moderators in the group nobody else will individually contact you especially we don't need any OTP or code from you so if anybody is contacting you with that
110:16
Speaker A
you should know that they are looking foram Janam andnd they're looking for those things their devotees don't fall victim to such people all right thank you very much oh that's funny next we have a question from Andre mishna
110:43
Speaker A
and thank you so much for being here and for organizing this new session it's very Blissful and we're so happy to be using your free time so please know that you can always count on us when you you
110:56
Speaker A
feel worried what to do with your free time uh just a simple question um when the title of the text is shik shash come and you've also used and the BBT always uses it without an M like and sometimes get confused could
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Speaker A
you maybe comment on that just briefly yeah such orades because in Sanskrit every term has a gender associated with it there's no term which comes without a gender in Sanskrit every term has a gender associated with it there are three
111:36
Speaker A
genders in Sanskrit that's how simple Sanskrit keeps it there are only three genders in Sanskrit puling masculine sing feminine naing also known as caling NE gender so if we ask what is the gender of the term upadesam the gender of that term
112:00
Speaker A
is which is neut gender now when it comes to neut gender Panini will say in the Asad Panini Rishi will say no term should be left without its suffix which denotes its gender so if we have to denote this particular term um upad sham
112:23
Speaker A
it is in the ne gender so there is a Sutra for that in P Asad that Sutra is at so I will try to find out that Sutra and I will try to show that particular Sutra because that Sutra is important
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Speaker A
uh and it specifies uh uh that uh terms which are in neuter gender they should get the suffix so come similarly these terms need to have a gender and because of the gender when they are when they are the name is
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Speaker A
given is the of so if you have to give the name you have to use uh nominative nominative declension nominative declination it will get suffix su su changes to um so upesh that is what it is so there are
113:36
Speaker A
how much 7 21 21 suffixes for the various the first is it is used when you want to give the name of a particular entity so you can't say Ram you have to say r is the name you can't say Krishna
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Speaker A
you have to say Krishna you cannnot say shat bhagat you have to shat bhagavatam mut gender similarly you cannot Sayes you cannot say because if you say shik it becomes vocative gender oh shikes ohes bhat oh bhagat it's not like that
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Speaker A
it has to be in nominative declination sorry for those who are hearing and those who don't understand anything please don't mind it is sanskrit it's full of these technicalities so is the you get from you have the which says if you
114:38
Speaker A
want singular case then you apply the suffix Su then from Su for neut gender it gets that um and then it becomes Etc that is the answer just a little followup to to be consistent because we usually don't use krishnaa and ramaha we
114:58
Speaker A
just use Rama and Krishna when we we use it in context but in titles of Sanskrit titles you see how it is used how BBT how when BBD publishes bhagat puran does it say shat bhagat or shat bhagwatam yes but when they publish upes
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Speaker A
shamita then they publish it as upes shamita then they should consider that least they should consider that at least in the shat bhagwatam it is very consistent that it ends with um because there is a VII applied to it you know what a vibu
115:39
Speaker A
is without without a Vib you should you cannot use a term so you don't yeah yeah it seems that words that ends with vow in BBT uh text and Publications they don't use the viak it's just a dictionary form well
115:58
Speaker A
bhagavata ends with the vowel but why do they put bhagavatam they apped VI to it so they should that's not consistent it's not consistent it's at least yeah we at least I I would like to be consistent in
116:13
Speaker A
that I don't know what other Publications are doing I'd like to be consistent that there should not be a grammatical mistake even in the title okay thank you very much I'm sorry if it was a I just wanted to
116:27
Speaker A
clarify it's we have yeah it's grammar but yes yes next we have now very quick followup so should also kind of be in that same way of course if you see the slides I try to ensure that in all the slides I
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Speaker A
write so I'll share my screen again wherever there was mentioned it is you will see that so you can seea is a it ends with a it's a feminine gender ter so the gender should be maintained in Sanskrit I can write if I in bang
117:17
Speaker A
you but I stick to the Sanskrit pron Sanskrit rules more because I I like that system it has a fixed system of gender and fixed rules and consisten is there thank you thank you next we have thank you for such a beautiful
117:50
Speaker A
class just one quick question Pro so it is always my understanding uh you know which I think you already given such beautiful explanations as well just wanted to have a quick followup that this chanut was written or spoken by
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Speaker A
Chan maharu for his One internal releasement was it very private to him and then it made because of the mercy of you know his followers and Associates got disclosed to a us so that we can also join hand and then also release and
118:26
Speaker A
then learn from that you're you're asking about or shik shik okay so shik it is mentioned in I specified during the presentation he used to teach the devotees but he didn't give the inner meanings of the verses because the verses can have
118:44
Speaker A
various meanings the inner meanings he relased with Shri swod andri Rand now what happened in the gambir we don't know we don't know what happened within the gambir and what meanings were brought out within the gambir we don't
118:58
Speaker A
know but we have commentators so we have hope that the commentators will bring out what happened within the gambir so let's see how far the commentators can take us okay thank you all right so we are out of questions
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Speaker A
is there anything else that you Pur or um or uh would like to say no I'm very happy to see rangi and that's all I'd like to [Music] see she's grown a little bit all right so that uh sunrises our
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Speaker A
first class we want to thank you all for coming we had uh almost 270 people today and I'm really looking forward to see you next week thank you thank you so much everyone thank you so much har thank you
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Speaker A
yeah
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