RACE AND REASON WALLY GEORGE

A heated debate on race, conservatism, and free speech featuring Wally George on Race and Reason.

Key Takeaways

Race and Reason emphasizes freedom of speech even for controversial figures.
Wally George represents a far-right, white supremacist viewpoint opposed by the hosts.
The debate reveals deep divisions within conservative circles on race and foreign policy.
Historical and constitutional interpretations are contested to support differing views on race.
The show serves as a platform for exposing and challenging extremist ideologies.

What the video covers

The show Race and Reason promotes total free speech amid controlled media.
Wally George, a controversial TV host and former KKK Grand Dragon, appears as a guest.
Hosts debate issues of race, conservatism, morality, and political ideology.
Discussion includes topics like Ronald Reagan's policies, racism, and free speech rights.
The dialogue covers historical references to the Constitution and founding fathers.
Debate touches on U.S. foreign policy in Central America, especially Nicaragua and the Contra.
Tensions rise over accusations of racism, white supremacy, and political hypocrisy.
The show highlights conflicting views on American identity, race equality, and patriotism.
Security and audience composition are briefly mentioned as part of the show's context.
The conversation includes personal challenges and confrontational exchanges between hosts and guest.

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Who is Wally George and why is he featured on the show?

Wally George is a controversial TV host and former Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan. He appears on the show to represent far-right, white supremacist views, providing a platform for debate.

What is the main theme of the Race and Reason episode?

The episode centers on free speech, race relations, conservatism, and U.S. foreign policy, highlighting conflicting perspectives on morality, equality, and patriotism.

How does the show approach the topic of racism?

The show features a confrontational debate where racism is both condemned and defended, exposing extremist ideologies and challenging racist viewpoints within a free speech framework.

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Hi, I'm Tom Meter, your host for Race and Reason. Race and Reason, a show dedicated to freedom of speech, total free speech, that small island of free speech in a sea of controlled and managed news. And now I go to my co-host Tom Padet, who

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will introduce our guest for the day. Tom, what do we have? Tom, you're not going to believe who we have on the show today. We have an individual who you've been on his show five times and stomped him five

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times, and you've issued a challenge for him to show up on our show. STS delaying and delaying and delaying for a long time. Finally, he's worked up the nerve to come on. Take a look at him. For those of

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you who know him, no introduction is necessary. For those of you who don't, this gentleman calls himself Wally George. Wally George on our show, host of the controversial TV show. He finally AC. Now, first of all, let me explain. You're

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on our hot seat. Let me explain to your fans out there, Tom, both of your fans who might be watching. Let me explain. First of all, I am not here because I agree with this dimwit. I am here as a

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conservative to show you that all people, all people are not nitwits like these Nazis. Conservatives are for Ronald Reagan and decency and morality. And come on now, and we are against racism. We believe that all men and women are created equal,

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all races, all races, all colors, all creeds are equal as long as you can make lots of money. And this guy, wait, this guy, his sicko Ed McMahon, they belong in the—this is my show now. Look, what kind of

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show is it? As long as you can make money, you conservatives, you love it. You don't want to go down El Salvador. You want to drop bombs on Nicaragua and everything else. He do, he doesn't, he doesn't want to go fight, do that. He

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wants you guys to know you're too old, too—no, but the whole thing I can't understand is why in the world are you guys on the air to begin with? Where do you find that audience if you got over

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there at Kos First Amendment SI H? Don't call me sick, you pervert. Get them out of a zoo. My audience is made up of mainly young college students who are gungho Ronald Reagan Americans. There's a lot different than you are. M, you must

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have to pay these kids to take that. Why would any young kid be for Ronald Reagan considering the draft coming up and all that kind? There's not going to be a draft because they realize that Ronald Reagan stands for morality and decency and

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dignity and Ronald Reagan. And Ronald Reagan wants to kick racists like you out of the country. Of course he would, but he can't do that. He's going to have to deal with us. We're here. We're all over the

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place. You had the audacity to come—he had the audacity to come on my show, on my great program Hot Seat, yes, and say that Campanis of the LA Dodgers was right. Absolutely, total free speech. And if Al

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Campanis feels that way as a free white American, he has every right to say it. Disagree with that? Huh? And you feel—and you guys are—and first of all, one of those jerks doing all this is our security, proud fre. You

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have your security. We have our security. I'm sure that these guys are as disgusted with you as we are. Well, I hope so. There's one point we forgot to make the other night when Al Panana said about blacks aren't as buoyant as whites,

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right? Remember that? Remember that? I remember. Don't point your finger at me. Well, I'll tell you, you know what? I agree on that too, but it depends on whether it's a black person swimming in New Louisiana or in Chicago, how buoyant

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they are, 'cause I've heard sometimes they put things on them down there and they get a little heavier. Oh boy, that's—that's right. Now, now let me tell you, you know what really bothers me, and I hope you people who are watching across the

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country realize that. First of all, it is really a sickening, disgraceful thing that racists like Meer have air time to spread this kind of sickness. Amica, two and a half million homes throughout the United States in their living room. But

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we have no—there's no room in America for racists like you. This guy, in case you don't know it, we're making room. This guy was the former Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan. We're making room. Yeah, but

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the KKK and your white supremacist part, all you're doing is you are spreading hatred across America, running your phony conservatives out of town. All you people want to do is bleed people, make money off them, send them in the phony wars.

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We're not phony conservatives. We are standing—we are standing up for what America stands for: one nation under God with liberty and justice for all. That means blacks. You don't believe me? We'll just bomb you if you don't believe that.

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You think the founding fathers believed in race equality? Why, of course I do. Why does Article One, Section Two of the Constitution state blacks were three-fifths of a person? That's what the founding fathers said, interpreting things. And there's no place

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theti—no place in the Constitution where it ever said all men are created equal. Do you know that? It's not in there. One nation under God with liberty and justice for all—that's our—bringing the preachers into it now like you always do.

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No, that's our Pledge of Allegiance, like these big shots over here. Don't you believe in the Pledge of Allegiance to our flag? I have a pledge of allegiance to my race, the Aryan race, no matter what country it's in and no

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matter where they're at. If you don't pledge your allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and you don't believe in our Pledge of Allegiance, you should not be in the United States of America. I will not as

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long as they have things like Vietnam and intervention in Central America and arms race threatening to nuke all the Aryan people from the Soviet Union. And there's 150 million Aryan white people in Russia, and I don't have anything

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against them. I don't want to nuke them. But you conservatives, anybody you have a political disagreement with, you want to kill them. You want abely—not absolutely, but certainly the Communists. I—I mean, are you communist? That's state

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capitalism over there. There's no communis. What I'm talking about, you aren't even in favor of what Ronald Reagan wants to do with the Contra in Nicaragua. Of course not, because that's all a money—our money cly is our money.

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We want—we want to save the Central takeover of Central and Latin America by the Soviet Union. We have to determine that. That's—we are the only—we are the only bastion of freedom in the entire

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world. Come on now. If it wasn't for the United States of America, the Soviet Union would take over all. I'll tell you what Reagan's worried about, the same thing the big bankers are worried about. They're worried about Nicaragua blasting

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another canal like the Panama Canal, which they could easily do, and that would put all the big bankers in Panama out of business. Scares them to death. Let me tell you what Ronald Reagan is concerned about and what I'm concerned about is if

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the Soviet Union takes over Nicaragua, if the Sandinista government is not overthrown by the freedom fighters, the countes, then they move on to Honduras and Guatemala and then into Mexico, and the Communists are going to be right on

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our border. We must stop a communist takeover of Central America. Don't you support self-determination of peoples? What business of ours to tell the Nicaraguan people what kind of government they should have? I'll tell you, none of our business. It is. I'll tell you,

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George Washington told us, don't get entangled in these foreign entanglements. Stay at home. We can't even control our own borders. How can we control Nicaragua when we can't even control our own borders? When George Washington was president, we had the kind of

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threat. You can't go back 200 years. You wonder, know where the threat is. This country is trying to walk the streets of these cities at night and some of these ghettos and being attacked. The Communists start wrong with this country.

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We're not being attacked by Nicaraguan communists. We're being attacked in the streets by gangs of nonwhite thugs. Oh, there you go, hitting the black again. There are just as

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where's your statistics on that jerk check the FBI time where are you where are your statistics where are where you the only the only people who are causing trouble in this country are black saying last time you took a nice evening

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stroll through the heart of La hey you walk downtown LA I have gone down white suit as a conservative as a as a republican conservative I I have done appearances Hots and I want tell you met you didn't walk there though yes I

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certainly did you took your security people didn't you I walk down the street watch wait a minute I can prove and I'll do it hey I my friends the Muslim should have taken care of I have a proposition

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for you I will gladly walk down the streets of watts and you by my side I want to photograph you I want to get the cameras out there can we do this sometime I did I went down 12:00 at

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night I went down to to the heart of watts and I had the black people coming out to me and saying we love your show Wally we love what you do to those racist like Tom Meer that's because they

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don't understand you're a money grubbing conservative I'm a good americ you oppress the blacks and you rob the blacks and then you tell the blacks you love them like the liberal how do I oppress the blacks by picking their

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pocket and voting for Ronald Reagan who's robbing everybody Ronald Reagan has been called a racist by punks like you and this IDI Ronald Reagan a racist that's a joke well you have you have said he's a racist I never said he's a

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racist I never voted for him and never would vote for him he's just a two bit Hollywood actor that made a good deal he is probably the greatest president we've ever had in the history of the United States of not going to sit on here and

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say something that outrage how can you POS me I'm not going to on this show possibly say Ronald Reagan is a great president all right watch him watch I'll be glad oh watching these little keep eye these little panty W keep an eye on

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you keep an eye on get him out of hereen get him out of here that scares me you stupid little idiot look at look at these stupid little punk well let's talk about they couldn't even get admitted to the

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YMCA there let's talk about Eastern Europe let's talk about Eastern Europe let's let's talk about it no let's finish talking about Ronald Reagan yeah all right your great you Chief you put him down Ronald Reagan stands for what

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is what made America great Ronald Reagan stands for morality for decency for dignity for uh bringing in AIDS and Haitians bringing in Asians and bringing them all in that's Jimmy Carter no he's doing it too and giving the illegal

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aliens all kinds of bringing them here makes this phony deal immigration laws and they're going to undercut them Ronald rean is totally against he's for the Mexican vote he's out for the get the is against the illegal aliens as I

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am but that is well why don't they get them out of the country well I say they should be gotten out of the country but I'm not doing it because they happen to be Mexican like you are if you're going

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to wait for if you're going to wait for Ronald Reagan to do it you're going to be very old you're turning on the on the illegal aliens in this country strictly because they have brown skin because because they're Mexicans fact we support

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revolution in Mexico we are 100% with the oppressed people uh and their right of self-determination we are for those people in Mexico overthrowing that corrupt system and returning Mexico to a beautiful land takes care of the people Tak care of is tell you know who runs

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Mexico the big shots up here pretty soon it's going to be Moscow and La pretty soon it's going to be the Soviet Union because they're going to move into Mexico and take over that country if you allow them to 200 of America's

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corporations right now are in the Soviet Union making plenty of money working a Soviet your friends the conservatives and the Fortune 500 have been in Russia ever since Arman Hammer went there under L Arman Hammer is no conservative uh

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well he says he he's a liberal in conservative clothingbody at all anybody that's got that much money is a conservative a man told me one time he was from Oklahoma I said what politics are you he said when

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you're born you're a Democrat as soon as you get 20 grand you're a republican but let's get down to Let's Get Down to the whole reason not the heart of it money money let's get Beyond this whole scen

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communism capitalism hold on you few people who watching I want to get you beyond the Meer smoke screen he's on here because he thinks you think that he's a good American trying to do what's good for you I know the real reason

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you're doing this program is because you're trying to spread your hatred racism and bigotry Across America amazed that any station any cable outlet would let you spread your poison in America today we're exposing the great white hoax the great white

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what are you I happen to be I'm against everything you serve in the military of course I did I served in the Korean War under Special Services Supply Depot or something special servic that's right what was that I went

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overseas when the bombs were were going off I was entertaining right on the firing lines during the Korean War that's right see he wasn't in the front Lin I was in what did you do wants everybody else to go he I served in the

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Korean I certainly did go I volunteered to go I Vol right on the front lines on the front lines what did you where did you serve in the armed forces I was in Germany doing what as a m or what at a

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radio station but I'll tell you one thing I wouldn't be there now because I don't believe in while he was on a radio station I was down in Korea when the bombs were dropping 10 ft from me too

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bad is commies didn't keep you over there look I'm tell you a radio station in a radio station radio station boy you had a cushy job there didn't you oh so so so what how was that a reflection on

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him W I paid why fight on that fight fight who you who would I fight what what war the what war were you in who I wasn't in a war he was in I'm stupid enough to fight the rich man's War I'm

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not going to fight the rich man why didn't you volunteer to go and fight in Vietnam I supported the guys in Vietnam until I saw the corporations and everybody else it was just another one of their foolish money-making schemes

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and then I was against it I refuse to pay taxes to support it and I feel the same way now I don't I tell every kid don't get volunteer for the draft don't go on the military you're not fighting

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for America C you're Maring fighting for America k no way and dollar signs we are fighting what we're fighting for in this country is is the great enemy of the entire free world the Soviet Union we're no it isn't that is State capitalism

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that's not even communism that's not communism you see in Russia there is no communism there is State capitalism and the type of Monopoly capitalism we have here let's get back to what we were talking about on my show we're against

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the capitalism and we're against the Marxist and you're against all the minorities blacks Mexicans and Jews you know you are the best friend of the minorities hold hold on wait you hate the Jews if they would deal if they you

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hate the Jews hold it hold it how can you say if someone is for their race that they're opposed to other RAC now how do you qu that said on my show right of self-determination you want to keep him

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to work for you don't a boss a conservative a boss you want segregation you segregation you told me on your show that's different than segregation you would have been a slave owner in the South you would have been a

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slave not me you wait a minute you said you said on my show that you wanted the blacks separated from the Whit it's segregation that's to give them selfdetermination oh come on no no hold on hold on segregation is having people

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under you separation is having them determined for themselves that's are you afraid black people can't achieve want why are why is everyone Afra they should be able to live wherever they want to live you can't tell them where they live

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in Africa but we go in there and meddle with their Affairs the United corporations go in and Rob United States of America they have the right to live right next door to you met whether you like it or not they have the same rights

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you do live next door to you that's talking capitalism do how many blacks live next door to you I would be proud to have AES are there any if they wanted to I ien to live in San Fernando

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Valley of of closest friends happen to be blacks I'll tell you the cliche I am I am serious they don't have to be friends to help them no I would separation helps them I believe I believe black nationalists can stand on

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their own and build a nation how do you def how do you because you're like a white liberal how do you blacks have got it what is separation in your mind what would you do to the blacks total

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separation how how the blacks the whites we need to sit down and decide on territorial division ofth am their own sure oh now States who do you think you are to dictate your culture to the they have the right this is America they have

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the right to live wherever they want they're as much American as you are that's the rich man's term you know why you want them you know why you want the illegal aliens you know why I don't want the illegal fat cats have always wanted

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them to make money you want separation from the blacks because you despise them because you think you are superior to the black Superior to impose your culture on this they want they how do you know what they want why how can you speak they want to

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live wherever they want to you're so far removed from the streets you don't many blacks and they say nobody has the right to tell them where they can live and where they cannot live that's what the federal government's doing now the last

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time you did a real day's work W let me see your hand I have worked I have worked on the air since I'm 14 years of age broadcast I I work 16 hours a day how many out do some construction work

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for a while and see what it's like what I'm doing on the air is a hell of a lot more than you've ever done in your entire life I'm fighting for what's right in America I'm fighting I'm fighting for equality's Equity ITT

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what's right for every big Corporation in the Fortune 500 and that means come on black people we're going to give you this song and dance about equality but we're going to rob you just like we always did I don't give anybody and now

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you're going down you want to bomb Nicaragua you guys want to obliterate those people they're just a small little Nicaragua we want to help this we want them destroying country Viet no we wanted to help them we want to help the

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cont overturn the Sandinista communist Marxist government blow them to hell we have do yes we'll blow up the whole country the best thing that's a typical fact do not blow up the whole country not the whole country you said it you heard it right

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here on this show we'll blow up the whole country strategic strategic air strike oh I we know where the well why are we dealing with red China if the Communists are bad very good you support red China I I will answer that because

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the rich guys are making lots of money Richard Nixon did that with red China he opened a dialogue with the red Chinese for a very good reason because if he because Rockefeller went right before him no because if he had not opened that

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dialogue with red China red China would have joined forces with the Soviet Union and that would have been devastating to us as a Korean vet you should know that there are still Korean War prisoners of War in China they're still there well I

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do not know and there is proof of it I don't believe that you the great white believe years is and a great conservative is dealing with them but you know what how can you sit there and support the red Chinese see that's

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typical supporting the red Chinese but I'm saying of course you are we should have a dialogue dialog you must be able to talk to your enemies the same way that that we should have a dialogue with the Soviet Union we'll never get along

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with them we never agree with their point of view but we must have a dialogue with our enemies that's called new speak no that's called dayon new dayon di no dialogue means I want to make some money I want I want to have

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you think about money yeah you exposing you people all you want you want to get it made cheap in China oh boy there's people only work for 20 cents a day and the capitalists go running to China and

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the next thing well is there anybody else working any cheaper Afghanistan will'll run Afghanistan all I want to do is what Richard Nixon started to do is to open a dialogue with the so they don't get hitched up with the

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Soviet un and join forces you a Richard Nixon fan I still am a richardon fan Nixon and Reagan are two of the great conservative too that's right of course he was of course he was well I know a

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lot of people who call themselves conservative two our Nixon and Reagan Nixon and and right down let's get this straight uh Havana Cuba is bad because they're Communists but red China they're they're good I didn't say that no I

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didn't say they were good they're not good we have dialogue right we have a dialogue With the Enemy that's right we must well then let's have dialogue with Nicaragua we have dialogue but we we we we've been talking to our take all the

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time sending the contas down to blow them to bits we had we had a dialogue with Ortega he doesn't listen to us theor we had a dialogue with uh Gaddafi he didn't listen to us either what about South Africa the one of the great

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so-called Western bullworks everybody's trying to destroy South Africa I disagree we when we try to tell the South African government how they should run their country and and how we hit them on a part I say that's hypocrisy

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racist when no because we have the same no supporting a part no I'm saying I'm not supporting a part but we have we have racism problems in our own country and I say we got to solve our own racism

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problems first and then we can tell what about the bombing rate of Gaddafi did you approve of that I certainly did the murder of his daughter you approve of that weing house we didn't try to murder his his daughter when you drop bombs in

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the city wall things like that happen let tell Gaddafi was warned for three years by Ronald Reagan if he didn't stop his terrorist activities they would take military we would take military action Gaddafi didn't listen to us after three

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years of warnings Ronald Reagan finally said enough is enough and he did the air strike his ratings were going down find someplace where I can not risk too much and we might be able to win it with this rag racially mixed military so

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they got grenade at first right Grenada we liberated Grenada liberated Gren we liberated Grenada right like a like a an eagle attacking a we liberated Grenada as then he looked all over the world to find another weak country so he finds

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Gaddafi say oh boy cuz we got all the boots out there why we against Gaddafi we tried to stop his terrorist activities terrorist government just shut your big fat mouth I'm talking now pal listen listen stupid idiot sit

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out that on me you're not on our show now you you get your damn ass out of here hey watch your language on your show pal I'm not going you just watch your language on this show sit you don't tell me you to sit

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down it's huh this is our this is our I to be here no look guys out of here one one more one more thing like that security is going to be removing you huh you understand you understand that sit you

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know grab watch it you don't fall off the stage you're stupid swas Laden idiot let's get back I'm not going to stand for this kind of treatment I came down here because I want to expose you and you're we know how violent you are we

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your mental over over here one one more crack while I your R he used to be in a mental hospital I have news for one more wise hey he's 55 he's 55 going on six so let's get it straight we're going to

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bomb Nicaragua we're going to bomb Cuba we're going to bomb Easter in Europe but we're going to love China no no let's get oh let's get it straight let's get it straight what's the Wall Street Journal say today here's here's here's

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what we're going to do that's the party line Wall Street the whole thing is the reason we bombed Gaddafi the reason went into Libya is to stop his terrorist activities and I want you to know you must know by now since the bombing of of

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Libya we have not seen a peep or heard a peep from Qaddafi because Ronald Reagan proved that he was the boss and now K's hiding under his bed did you notice something in all the bombing they never hit one of the oil wells that Arman

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Hammer owns in Libya they they Marvin Hammer would have fired Ronald Reagan by phone if he' had touched those Hammer has no power in this country are you kidding rean doesn't listen to Armen Hammer never has never will oh so you're

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saying Reagan's an independent thinker absolutely makes all his own decisions I see he makes all and when history is written when history is written years from now long after you and I are gone I hope you're gone a hell of a lot longer

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short I long after we're gone history will record Ronald Reagan as the great leader of our time the great anti the Great White Hope the anti-communist the I mean boy motherhood and apple pie and it is time you know I think he needs a

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war before he leaves office that'll make sure he's remembered for hey we're in a war right now we're in a war we are in the streets of America in a war we're are on the blocks right around here

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we're in a war against communism but you're up there living in a fine home with a wall around it where you don't have to survive like the people down in the streets the working people I am before they're working okay Wally you're

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about out of here anyhow we want to thank you for covering the show and and that's it be back with us and we'll hope to have a more intelligent guest next time ha

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