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Luna Montana and sister Zolita discuss queer dating, sexuality journeys, and personal experiences in an intimate conversation.
Key Takeaways
- Queer identity development is a complex and personal journey influenced by childhood experiences and media.
- Open family communication about sexuality varies widely and can impact comfort levels in discussing these topics.
- Representation in media plays a crucial role in helping individuals recognize and accept their sexuality.
- Coming out is a personal process that should be approached with self-compassion and at one's own pace.
- Shared experiences between siblings can deepen understanding and support in navigating queer identities.
Summary
- Luna Montana and her sister Zolita revisit their first episode and reflect on their evolving relationship and appearances.
- They discuss their childhood, upbringing, and early realizations about sexuality.
- Zolita shares her journey of understanding her attraction and coming out as a lesbian.
- They touch on the impact of media representation, such as Glee, on their awareness of queer identities.
- The sisters explore the challenges of growing up during a time when 'lesbian' was used as a slur.
- They reflect on family dynamics and how open conversations about sexuality vary between families.
- Zolita talks about her early romantic and sexual experiences and emotional responses.
- They discuss the significance of Pride and the normalization of LGBTQ+ identities over time.
- The video includes personal anecdotes about friendships, school experiences, and emotional growth.
- They emphasize the importance of self-acceptance and being gentle with oneself during the coming out process.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Sponsor Message
- 02:23Welcome Back and Episode Recap
- 04:27Sisterly Bond and Appearance Changes
- 06:25Childhood and Upbringing Reflections
- 08:15Late Pride Discussion and Family Dynamics
- 10:15Sexuality Journey and Early Realizations
- 12:50Media Influence and Coming Out Experiences
- 18:47Challenges of Growing Up Queer
- 22:07Personal Anecdotes and Emotional Growth
- 30:10Advice on Coming Out and Self-Acceptance
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back here um she was the first episode she was on the first episode that we ever put out did I have pink hair still yes you did that's crazy I was just thinking that yeah so now we look a little bit more
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multiple episodes together oh yeah for sure um and we kind of touched on it the first episode but it was mostly like our childhood my upbringing just to like you know have you guys know a little bit more about me but we wanted to talk more
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her where I talk about all this stuff so okay stuff okay stuff we love a gay episode yeah it's two months late we should have done a pride I know well I was gone all of June oh yeah you were
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Hello, hello you guys, welcome back to my sister Zolita.
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like you know I'll do that another time honestly maybe do I need to I don't know maybe I'm doing need to hear my sister talk about that no maybe I feel like some families have like really open relationships talking about well we're
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Hey guys, very happy to be back here.
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lot of questions today let's do it um but let's just start obviously with the sexuality Journey let's start when you first started to kind of realize okay maybe I'm not yeah straight um you know what I my very first thought
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She was on the first episode. She was on the first episode that we ever put out.
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it wasn't like a conscious too conscious it was like um basically I had a best friend in the Pony Club and what I we would take like naked showers together but they weren't like they weren't they weren't like sexual
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Did I have pink hair still?
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I do remember this is a classic thing where your best friend goes to Hawaii for two weeks in the summer and you're so sad because you miss her right I remember when she was going on this trip to Hawaii and I was devastated like I
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Yes, you did. That's crazy.
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never thought about it again until junior year of high school oh so you had that initial thought though I did I did I had that thought and I was like no that's crazy yeah and then the real like
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I was just thinking that.
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everyone was copying her hair at the time it was like this like Shaggy curly hair and I was just like oh my God why am I obsessed with her I was putting her on my binder all over my walls and I was
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Yeah, so now we look a little bit more like sisters, I guess.
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that that was like that and then watching Glee and seeing britana and seeing like two Femme girls together that was like my Awakening and I was like oh that's what I want yeah yeah 100 but I didn't have like before that when
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I took over.
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I don't know this isn't that great yeah well I remember well first of all let's go back Pony Club Pony Club I did not know this one yep can you tell me who it was not on here what yeah I know
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Yeah, you took over the color. I mean, she's back to black.
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friendships interesting but I never I don't think I didn't have a thought of like I'm attracted to her or anything like that it's genuine generally was just like I needed to be around her like if you like had a deep emotional
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I have my sister on today because I feel like one episode just—I mean, even two is not enough. We're going to have multiple episodes together.
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okay but not you they got the wrong one I know it was it was but like and it was sad because it was like in a time when it was people would use the word lesbian as a slur against girls it was like oh
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Oh yeah, for sure.
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if you're upbringing like when the whole like legalized gay and like the guy Pride parades and all of that went properly on like you were really like you saw that whole transition as you were coming out you kind of went through it with the world
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And we kind of touched on it the first episode, but it was mostly like our childhood, my upbringing, just to like, you know, have you guys know a little bit more about me. But we wanted to talk more.
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gay on it yes that was such a good shirt we need to find that again oh my God I hope I didn't sell that I know I think I did too that's like a Time Capsule that's a relic that is should go on a
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On one episode, I wanted to ask her a lot more questions on sexuality, her coming out experience, being lesbian in the community, all of it. Like, we have to cover it all.
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of it's like you're just like so nerdy and like a bunch of girls together all the time I don't know it's kind of like how dance is maybe a little queer too I feel like Jordana had that experience we
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I know you guys really want an episode with just her where I talk about all this stuff.
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get a big group of girls together there's always going to be some that are weird and such a spectrum yeah and girls are better anyways yeah why not exactly it just makes more sense it's a Catholic School like girls going to Catholic
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So, okay, stuff.
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but when I was little and I've never even like talked about this with anybody but when I was little like Elementary School with my girlfriends we would have like we would like fake like having sex no I mean yeah I did that too with Sienna
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Okay, stuff. We love a gay episode.
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doctor or like any of those things I feel like that's such a like yes it's embarrassing to talk about but you're like so little you're not like the thing is at that at that age I feel like it's
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Yeah, it's two months late. We should have done a Pride.
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you're just like innocently trying yeah so it's so innocent but yeah I would do that yeah I would do that anyway whatever so now I want to go into remembering me reading your journals when Zoe was in high school she had a
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I know, well, I was gone all of June.
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liked him so much you really did probably I was like because he wasn't giving that to me like he wasn't gonna like make me his girlfriend it was like a safe thing yeah do you know what I mean yeah you were like oh everyone can
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Oh yeah, you were.
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didn't want to do anything about it I didn't want to like do that much like sexual stuff yeah you know yeah yeah yeah um but yeah but I think but I feel like I had emotions around it yeah definitely
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Well, we have her back now, and now we're going to ask her all the juicy questions. My last episode was about sex, and I went really in detail. I started to watch it a little bit, and then I was like, you know, I'll do that another time.
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like everyone was like pitching pitch tense and it was like a cancer relay thing and it was literally known that people would like like hook up really for life that's terrible that's so messed up well anyway you had your first
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Honestly, maybe do I need to? I don't know. Maybe I need to hear my sister talk about that.
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interesting yeah and then she wrote in her journal and she was like and then he did this and then he like sucked my tit and I felt nothing I was like I felt nothing I was just lying there it was so
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No, maybe. I feel like some families have really open relationships talking about—
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see exactly like what I was doing on whatever day and like so you were able to it's crazy read those journals growing up and see like what my mindset was I mean she was an avid journaler like every night she would look up
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Well, we have an open relationship, but we also don't talk about sex that much because our experiences are very, so different. You know what I mean?
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you really did oh you really did yeah but okay so that happened all right guys if you know me at all you know fall is my favorite time of the year and I am not wasting any moment soaking it all in
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Yeah, true. I have sex with men.
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Yeah, you have sex with women.
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But I do want to ask you a lot of questions today.
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at factormeals.com luna50 to get 50 off thank you factor and during that time did you have any realizations like oh maybe I'm into girls like was it ever in the back your mind it wasn't in the back of my mind when I was like hooking up
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Let's do it.
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thought more yeah um but it took me like seeing two two like feminine girls like making out or like hooking up to to like have that thought yeah I did there was one other moment this was like sophomore
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But let's just start obviously with the sexuality journey. Let's start when you first started to kind of realize, okay, maybe I'm not—yeah, straight.
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two of the girls in the shoot they're all in jeans and like topless but like holding themselves like this and two of the girls in the shoot without me even asking just like started kissing for a photo and I was just like oh this is really
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You know what, my very first thought was freshman year. I remember I shoved this down. I don't think I've told you this one. This is one that I don't talk about in interviews.
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I'm dead but it's also funny because you would always take you would only take photos of girls and then your your photo teacher gave you an assignment and was like okay now you have to take you have to take a picture of two guys yeah two
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Oh my God.
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take those photos honestly and how I got them to do it but I have just some very convincing person oh I mean we know this about you for sure she can like get you together honestly she's like Luna you're
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But I really shoved this one down very far, so it wasn't like a conscious, too conscious. It was like, basically, I had a best friend in the Pony Club, and what we would do is take naked showers together, but they weren't like—they weren't sexual.
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Mastermind Mastermind and Mastermind Taylor Swift Mastermind nevermind song in the album oh my gosh oh my gosh okay so then you well weren't you Santana and Brittany for Halloween no I literally wasn't even Halloween I had a Glee I was so obsessed with Glee and
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But it was very, it was a very close, intimate relationship.
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dinner party and made all my friends dressed as somebody from Glee and me and Juliet were Brittany and Santana that is so funny and not even then did you think you were gay no no then I did yeah oh
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I feel like that is kind of common. A lot of girl friendships, you like shower naked together. I don't know. Did you ever do that?
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told maybe two people senior year what was your like okay yeah for sure moment I think it was Brittany and Santana interesting yeah and I remember journaling I remember my first journaling was like um like I think I'm bi like I just like I'm
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No, I have.
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these things were happening that year 2011 and I was like I think I'm bi but I think I'll be I'll be I'm okay with that like that's fine like yeah yeah I could be bi and then I had literally remember
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Yeah, on that for sure.
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and put it and next to it said I'm gay period no no oh my God honestly those journals could become a series it's crazy a teen movie for real to follow like the trajectory of my sexualities is so wild yeah yeah it is so nuts yeah
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But I do remember this is a classic thing where your best friend goes to Hawaii for two weeks in the summer, and you're so sad because you miss her.
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thought it was cool but I knew that it wasn't cool where we were so I was like I know that when I moved to New York like it's gonna be so accepted because it's like I don't know like all of the
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Right.
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like get to be a part of that yeah world and um and yeah I don't think I've ever I think I was pretty stoked to be gay honestly that's amazing such an unusual it is an unusual experience like
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I remember when she was going on this trip to Hawaii, and I was devastated. Like, I think I cried. I was really, really sad.
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anymore like my like any girlfriends I had would think I was looking at them weird or whatever or like I was afraid to like chain like change with people because I was like I don't want them to think I'm like look or like even like oh
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And then I was like, am I a lesbian? Like, why am I so sad that she's going to be gone for two weeks?
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person's hand like yeah what if they think I'm like thinking this is so in my head about that stuff so of course stuff sucked um but once I was like at NYU I was I feel like I was pretty stoked to be gay
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And then I was like, no.
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want to be like her yeah you know for sure so I was lucky and not you had like the best place an amazing examples yeah that actually was a question on my list was like I think a lot of girls or
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And then I literally never thought about it again until junior year of high school.
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like oh my God like now in these dressing room yes all these girls are gonna what if they're very uncomfortable like it just makes you feel so dirty and weird it does and it's so silly because it's like
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Oh, so you had that initial thought though.
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oh that's so crazy did you have anyone like when you told them that said anything or what did they say to make you comfortable yeah so my two people which I always say whenever um you know young people are asking me
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I did. I did. I had that thought, and I was like, no, that's crazy.
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Stephanie minus okay yeah and then this I told somebody who was kind of like the she was like the lesbian of our high school there was like a lesbian an out lesbian and an out gay guy um that everybody knew only two
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Yeah, and then the real, like, when I really started thinking about it was, I got really into high fashion models, and there's this one model named Freyja Beha who was just like, oh my God, I remember this.
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was already she was like out of the box and um and so I remember though the way that I told one of them was at that point I'd gotten into NYU and I was doing like the roommate quit it was like a it's called
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She was so androgynous and so cool, had this like—everyone was copying her hair at the time. It was like this shaggy curly hair.
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first time I ever like I was like oh my God this is like a big deal and I remember in like social studies class I like dm'd on Facebook uh this like resident lesbian at our high school and said but like I just wanted
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And I was just like, oh my God, why am I obsessed with her? I was putting her on my binder, all over my walls, and I was like, do I want to be her or do I want to be with her?
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sweet few months or half year or something that only these two people knew and I felt really close to them because of that like I felt like they knew part of me that nobody else did and yeah it was like it was kind of nice you
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And then I found out that she was gay and she had a girlfriend who was also a model, and I was like obsessed with both of them.
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answers and there was a girl that I knew right away I was like I feel like I have oh I met her at a freshman send-off and I had a crush on her like I knew how to crush on her right away and then I went
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And I, yeah, I think that that was like that.
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it in you're so funny you're so you're so trying to figure out if someone is gay or interested in you like that would be something if I like came out and went to like a bar or something like to try to figure that out
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And then watching Glee and seeing Brittana and seeing like two femme girls together, that was like my awakening, and I was like, oh, that's what I want.
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um so when I first came out I like really leaned heavily on apps and like at the time it was okay Cupid stop okay Cupid and then Tinder had like just come around um so I was leaned heavily on those and
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Yeah.
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like bribed the doorman with like brownies or something like no like weed brownies um but yeah so definitely like being in queer spaces um and like doing it online like took away the level of like feeling like I
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Yeah, 100.
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um I think I said that to you once what else um oh I go look I feel like the best trick is to like go look at their Instagram and see who they're following and if they're following like specific
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But I didn't have, like, before that, when I would hook up with guys, which, you know, I wasn't doing—I didn't do that much—but I definitely was just doing it to tell my friends about it, and I was like, ah, like, I don't know, this isn't that great.
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someone that's so crazy to be like someone's gay Awakening that's like a lot of pressure on her yeah that's crazy it's I mean she literally was the reason why I that so many people came out I feel like
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Yeah.
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about her experience it just like resonated with so many people so crazy yeah wow but yeah I feel like those are the I feel like stylistically sometimes you can kind of pick up a Vibe too but sometimes you could be really thrown off
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Well, I remember—well, first of all, let's go back. Pony Club. Pony Club. I did not know this one.
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like trying and if anything like most people are flattered by most women are flattered by being hit on by other women like it is a flattering thing right yeah for sure yeah for sure a girl thought I was pretty even if you're not gay you're
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Yep.
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internet's talking internet stalking just like Instagram like looking at their like old Instagrams they're seeing like if they've had like other relationships in the past or like yeah seeing who they follow like or seeing the way that they like talk to me on DM
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Can you tell me who it was?
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what would I say I would just be flirty I don't know whatever I would like respond to stories or like I don't know I'll just be flirty interesting I feel like you can whatever you know how to be
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Not on here.
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in trying I don't think it's I genuinely think like women are usually pretty kind to other women so even if you were to like even if you were to like go for in for a kiss and then the girl is like oh like
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What?
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um as as encouragement I don't think I've ever had I feel like I've yeah I feel like I've maybe hooked up with girls who are leaning straight but still that means they're a little queer right for sure but yeah I don't think
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Yeah.
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they think it's funny and then how do you handle that or how do you know I just couldn't tell at a certain point I'm like you're just really talking yeah interesting huh yeah yeah it's kind of fun it has a layer of
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I know.
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and bad for so many reasons but I think for queer people they are really useful yeah if you're scared of that level that makes sense to me just like break down that thing like oh I'm Into You you're
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Isn't that weird? You never told me that because it was just a weird—I was just—we had this like really codependent friendship, which I think that's another really common thing with queer women. You have these like really codependent friendships.
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um the one that you studied the one that I studied who I had a crush on from The Freshman send-off we this happens when you go to college I feel like to every girl you like have a you find someone
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Interesting.
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biggest crush on her and I kind of knew she was queer I think she had a boyfriend and then they broke up pretty quickly and then it was my the eve of my 18th birthday and I know and you guys the weirdest
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But I never—I don't think I had a thought of like, I'm attracted to her or anything like that.
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other's backs and I think I was like kind of like on her side or something I was like getting closer and then she like took my hands and like put them on her boobs and I was like oh my God what
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It's generally just like I needed to be around her, like if you had a deep emotional connection.
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was just like so I was like okay and then that was it and then but then she slept over the next night as well and then we like made out and like tried to do other stuff and then she was like we
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Yes.
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because she like yeah she was a person who like hopped from friend to friend and person to person um just like experience with a girl so my first experience actually like fully having sex with a woman um was not great and like I felt really
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Yes.
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um yeah she was like an older she was a producer on a film that I was like paing for and she like gave me so much special treatment because like she liked me and whatever and I was like okay and then at
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Interesting.
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you guys like serenaded me and it was bad no really bad no it was just like everything you're doing right now is turning me off and then yeah and then we hooked up and I was just like I don't I
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Do you think she felt that same vibe?
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it and I like posted a picture like putting my middle fingers up and I was like don't touch me as my like caption and I was like after that I was like I don't have sex ever again I literally
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Well, I don't know. Maybe not in a queer—
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it's you know yeah obviously there's no penetration I mean you know yeah I think I think that sex is like when you're having an intimate experience with somebody trying to make each other come that sucks but I don't think I mean I
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Not in a queer way.
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like doing stuff and trying to trying to do that like that feels like sex to me I feel like most of the time people know in their head when they're like that was sex right yeah I feel like
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But like, didn't people at school say that you guys were together?
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for me I wouldn't like consider that um when was the first time a girl went down on you that night that night really and the first time you did it yeah it was that night yeah and I hated it yeah
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No.
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definitely I think I read so many articles and [ __ ] on the Internet or whatever but the thing is at the end of the day every girl is so different like every girl likes something so different so every time like you start having sex
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No. People at school said that she was.
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different what they like is so different so I feel like just like slow learning and like communicating and yeah asking if they like certain things or whatever it is the best yeah I feel like it'd be easier too because you know what feels good on
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Okay.
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what's like the next step is scissoring like a really big part of your of your experience like was that like a big like thing that you did did you do that that night as well no no no no I feel like
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But not you.
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I came scissoring for the first time recently first time recently yeah oh my God like usually it's like hard it takes a long time it would take like a way too long do you know what I mean yeah
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They got the wrong one.
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face face with the person or whatever um but it's like hard to like fully get there yeah you know some people can right we're right but for me I think it's harder interesting yeah I've always wondered I've always wondered about that yeah
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I know. It was—but like, and it was sad because it was like in a time when people would use the word lesbian as a slur against girls. It was like, oh, she's such a lesbian.
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on or like when did you first get into that how much later did that come in my first like long-term relationship with it yeah got it um yeah I I feel like that I don't know I think that's a pretty
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And I probably did the same thing because I just did not know at that time, and I was just so ignorant, unaware.
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that's common things um and just try new things and see what I liked and like I thought I didn't like internal at all because I've had only had like one-night stands or whatever with people and like they would do
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That's such a crazy time.
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yeah then I realized that that was not the case but yeah so I feel like it happened then and then after that I feel like it's not necessarily part of sex every time when I was like going through my three years
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Like, your upbringing, like when the whole legalized gay and like the gay Pride parades and all of that went properly on, like you were really—you saw that whole transition as you were coming out. You kind of went through it with the world in a way.
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yeah yeah it feels like a fun it's another fun like element but it's like kind of hard it's like a lot of like exercise and you're not getting like a guy obviously when he's like doing that he's like getting like pleasure off of it
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Like literally, if marriage was legalized, it was about 2012.
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like harder to it's not like you're getting that like crazy physical like huh you know so interesting God sex is so cool God it really is and everybody has a different there's no right way to do it I think another really nice thing
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Gay marriage, 2012.
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the way you look down there like the way like your shape of your nipples or whatever like when you're like having sex with women all the time like everybody's so different that it's just like ever you appreciate everything yeah
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When we went to the Pride parade, wasn't it?
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like stoked to be doing if you're like choosing to like get naked with somebody and like hook up with them and you're doing it wholeheartedly like you're just probably excited to be there with them you know you're not like oh their nipple
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I think that's right when it happened.
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more um way less insecure about my body um like having sex with women interesting yeah that's kind of what I said on my last episode too obviously it's a lot different when it comes to straight sex and the whole experience but like
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Well, I remember wearing the shirt.
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beautiful and like womanly and like that that was like appreciated do you know what I mean like it obviously meant a lot for me but I wouldn't say if you're so insecure to like go do that to get
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Yeah, American pair of legalized gay on it.
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love outside of relationship but it definitely I feel like it is a common thing that within a relationship a healthy one like yeah you start to appreciate those parts of your body well yeah it's The Human Experience to like
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Yes.
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talk about as well is we were talking about it the other day and you were like oh it's so annoying I just want to have my birthday but all my friends like automatically have to bring their girlfriends even if I'm not close to
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That was such a good shirt. We need to find that again.
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girlfriend that is like talk about it that is I feel like one of the hardest things about being in a um queer not one of ours but it is an annoying thing about being in oh my God sorry and uh
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Oh my God, I hope I didn't sell that.
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become like your partner ends up just becoming friends with your friends and everybody is in a big friend group and then all of a sudden it's just like their partners partners are always together in there and then like the one
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I know. I think I did too.
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was thinking about that for my birthday like doing it going away trip thing and I'm like oh dang like it ends up like stacking up the amount of people I would need to bring because like everyone kind of automatically it's like assumed that
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That's like a time capsule. That's a relic that should go on a frame, honestly.
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and we like were friends first um so now it's like I'm not gonna not I can't not invite lists of things so like she's friends with she was friends with like my friends also right as friends before she wasn't like brought in as my
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Yeah, I gotta find that on eBay for sure.
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the whole like U-Haul lesbian yeah explain that part of it explain that so U-Haul that's like a it's just like a cliche thing that happens but I think that that that genuinely I forget what the word is limerence I think it's
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Yeah, that's so crazy.
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You Haul or like it's like oh like we moved in together after two weeks and I definitely know a lot of people who are like that I've always been not you've taken your time I take my sweet time because I know I like see
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Okay, so then Pony Club in general, by the way, is just like such a queer thing. Horse girls are queer.
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myself being with someone for the rest of my life I have the rest of my life to live without a be with them like I don't need to do that right now you know it's a good statement that's that's what I
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Is it really?
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situation every is different everybody's different situational of course and also of course there's like money [ __ ] and like if you're moving if someone's long distance and moving across the country you're not gonna like get your own why
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Like kind of—it's like you're just like so nerdy and like a bunch of girls together all the time.
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and it's exciting to go to each other and you know 100 wow yeah that's interesting though what else are like what are some hard things when it comes to being a lesbian that like you think other people really don't experience
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I don't know. It's kind of like how dance is maybe a little queer too.
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right it's like and you're you both can just talk about it yeah most and you know obviously there are women that are toxic and bad too um but like yeah I feel like a lot of the times just
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I feel like Jordana had that experience.
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things well let's talk about this if your Cycles aren't linked then there's only technically two weeks out of the oh yeah out of the month that you can have like clean fish sex and also moodiness are you linked are you guys
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We—I feel like some of your people, a lot of people do.
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like you can have sex on your period um but a lot of times it's like I don't necessarily want to because I just feel like yucky or I just feel yeah I'm like I'm bloated I'm emotional I'm not
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Yeah, actually, yeah, a lot of people do. I didn't experience, but I've heard many stories as well.
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like my one or one week that week you know what I mean it's like somebody's on their period or like um yeah or like going on vacation it's like somebody's always one of us is always on our period but yeah but I feel
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Yeah, I think it's just like girlhood and like totally when you get a big group of girls together, there's always going to be some that are weird and such a spectrum.
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remember one time you've said to me that you're like if I if I was gay I think I would be like upset and like just like internalize homophobia from like society and stuff like that yeah um yeah yeah I don't know why like
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Yeah, and girls are better anyways.
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pretty much asexual I just didn't think about it at all like as early as people did so I always thought like oh am I a lesbian am I like I write in my journals I'm like I don't even want like marriage
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Yeah, why not?
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answer was yes right now I would be like sad about it yeah and I don't know what that is since I've never had anyone to be like judgmental to me about it or like obviously I have the best example
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Exactly.
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raised in ballet which is so like feminine like hyper feminine pink and like I don't know to me well technically that should be like should make it more I don't know I think for me obviously I've had a lot of issues with mail
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It just makes more sense.
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everyone to be in love with me like every male to be in love with me at all times and it like means the most to me when I have but for you obviously you don't do you crave male validation in that way
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It's a Catholic school.
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literally taught to care if men think you're hot so I'm sure that's in me somewhere but like I don't yeah I don't think I have that yeah I don't dress as much I don't really care I think yeah I don't care if guys think
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Like girls going to Catholic school, like there's always those experiences.
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exactly like I can't pinpoint exactly what it is obviously I'm open to like experiencing if that happens you know what I mean I've never been in a situation where I'm like wanted to try that you know what I mean
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Yeah, they're practicing or like—and then when girls practice on each other, it's like some realize that they're like, oh, actually interesting.
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like a man and that was my first boyfriend or whatever so it's definitely in me you know what I mean I don't think I'd be fully lesbian but I think there's always like something in me that thinks oh I could definitely try
Speaker A
Yeah, well, you know, I guess we could talk about this later, but when I was little and I've never even like talked about this with anybody, bu—
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some things in it have you ever heard of this no like went viral Tick Tock over the pandemic but there's a lot of girls just realizing their queerness because they just realize that a lot of their desire for
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like their own their desire for men was for male approval and not actually beyond that it wasn't like you know which I'm not saying that's you at all I'm saying that there's like it would be interesting for you to like start
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thinking about what yeah what comes from like just your desire for um male approval versus like right you know yeah no it's super strange yeah that is such a I mean it's a classic common thing yeah for sure yeah I don't know we'll
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see obviously I now have more knowledge on all of it [Music] for me to be you know do you have any final words or advice for people Yeah final words or advice um if you're just figuring out your
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sexuality don't put too much pressure on yourself to like label yourself right away also if you don't like labels like that's fine too obviously coming out is still it's still an important thing in our in our society because people are still
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assumed straight you know it's not like completely normalized yet and until it's totally normalized like coming out is important but it's you know up to every person if you don't feel like you want to come out early don't feel like you
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want a label and you're just like gonna love who you love and that's fine too um but yeah and if you are in a place where you feel unsafe to come out just find your online community um yeah I feel like it it's such an amazing
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it is a great time it's a great and a bad time to be queer right like obviously in our country it's like very scary and there's a lot of anti-lgbtq bill is being put forward and like so much discrimination
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um happening so that's really scary but also for representation it's a really exciting time to be queer and I think for young people they get to have you know just like to get to see like other queer people live their lives on Tick
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Tock around the world and around the country it's so cool because it's not just like glamorized versions of queerness it's like you get to see like a queer 15 year old in Kansas or like you know it's it's really exciting
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um we're all into transitional like period right now completely it's crazy yeah and I think there's never there's there's never been more you know representation queer representation and music and then film and on TV and like there always could be more and and
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better versions of it but um even like Heart Stopper like so it's so cute it's so exciting you know that show no what stopper on Netflix did you see it already I'm on the side they just released the second season was it my
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first season no it's just two gig it's it's like very love simon-esque but really it's super cute it's British it's like oh yeah um I think I've heard of it I think yeah yeah it's really really cute it's so
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funny I saw it yesterday that was like so funny that the leading like gay show in the country and I was like just two boys falling in love and navigating high school and then the leading lesbian show is like a team of soccer players uh gets
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stranded on an island and start cannibalizing each other oh my God Yellow Jackets wait really that's that and that's like the queer woman show it's like of course like God we can never win until people give us just why
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can't lesbians have just like a really nice normal high school I'm gonna give it to him yeah you are my movie your movie yes yeah incoming but uh stay tuned but those are my words of advice be easy on yourself
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and find your safe people that you feel good around and that make you feel um the most comfortable to be your authentic self mm-hmm yeah beautiful all right thank you sis thank you for having me all right we're gonna film so many
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more episodes so you guys have any topics you want me and Zoe to talk about comment them below and thank you for coming on the Pod love you guys love you bye thank you
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