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Do we really know what we're talking about when we say awakening? You have to really check in with someone like, you know, what does that mean for you?
Exploring the true meaning of awakening through Ananta Kranti's profound prison experience and spiritual insights.
Key Takeaways
- Awakening means recognizing oneself as life or existential awareness beyond the ego.
- True awakening involves deep presence and integration of human trauma and identity.
- The human journey is essential to consciousness realizing itself and cannot be bypassed.
- Modern uses of 'awakening' often dilute its profound meaning and depth.
- Ananta’s prison experience exemplifies ego death and the stripping away of false identities.
What the video covers
- Awakening is described as waking up from the illusion of self-identity to recognize existential awareness or life itself.
- The term 'awakening' is often diluted or misunderstood in contemporary spiritual discussions.
- Ananta Kranti shares her unique awakening experience during prolonged solitary confinement in a Japanese prison.
- Her awakening involved deep ego death, presence, and stripping away of mental and emotional layers.
- The process included intense trauma release and bodywork, emphasizing the importance of recognizing the self beyond personal stories.
- True freedom arises from intimate self-recognition before, during, and after life’s stories and traumas.
- The human experience, including trauma and identity, is integral to the awakening process and cannot be denied or excluded.
- There is a trend of watering down awakening by neglecting the human aspect and trauma integration.
- Awakening is not about perfecting the human but embracing the human journey as part of consciousness knowing itself.
- The video invites seekers to reflect on their own understanding of awakening and the importance of presence and self-recognition.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction to Awakening and Its Meaning
- 02:14Personal Connection and Early Meetings
- 03:55Purpose of the Show and Awakening Now
- 06:18Bodywork and Trauma in Awakening
- 09:03Solitary Confinement Experience Begins
- 10:31Life in Prison and Ego Death
- 14:26Presence Amidst Mental and Emotional Breakdown
- 16:56Deepening Awareness and Spiritual Insights
- 20:47Integration of Human Experience in Awakening
- 25:28Closing Thoughts and Invitations
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Yeah. When I first started talking about this, it was really about waking up from the dream of who you believed you are to realize that you are actually existential awareness, life itself, whatever can't really be contained in words, but that
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which gives life to all things. Without a clear recognition of who am I really, like really truly, directly, intimately seeing, knowing, experiencing, without that, this human cannot really be met in freedom.
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In true freedom. You know, it's still somehow watered down. The recognition of who am I is watered down. This is the trend.
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Welcome to the show. And today I'm speaking to Ananta Kranti. Hello, Ananta. Hello, hello, once again.
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So nice to have you on the show. And it's so beautiful to meet with you today.
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And for those who do not know Ananta or never heard about her, which I think serious seekers in the space would have heard of you because you have been giving satsang and doing all these teachings for so many years.
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Mhm. Yeah, I was actually pondering on that today, like I was reflecting. The reasons why I was reflecting, but I was reflecting back on where I first began to speak, it was around year 2000.
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Yeah. And I had an opportunity to meet Ananta when she was living in the UK.
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It was so strange how everything, how our energies moved around the same places because I lived in this tiny, tiny place called Goring, not far from Brighton, on the beach.
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From all the places. And I used to do these monthly meetings in the Quakers' house.
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And there was this guy coming to these meetings. There was a little community going, and this guy Lawrence, one day he said, "Oh, you should meet Ananta. She lives in my house." And Lawrence lives just literally a few roads away
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in the same Goring. So, one day I came in to see you in satsang and I don't think you remember me. You just saw me there. I just— Yeah, I do vaguely remember because I was just on a flying visit. I was coming
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to England for three weeks. And it was during the three weeks that we held this meeting. So, I do remember.
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Yeah. [laughter] So, after so many years just I remember you checking me out like I was checking her.
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[laughter] Is she for real? Is she [laughter] for real? And then funny thing, funny thing that when I moved away from Goring, I gave all my plants to Lawrence.
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Hi Lawrence. [laughter] And then I was giving satsangs in between all my plants. How fun is that?
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I was. Yeah. All of my retreats had all your plants around me. They actually made the setting.
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It's like, so, welcome to this show. And my show is called Awakening Now. And it's for people going through this process of awakening before, during, and after, and whatever is helpful.
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I'm just inviting different people who have something to share, some message, something that could be helpful for people on the path.
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And to start with, I want to ask you, what is awakening in your definition?
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And you may be using a different word, whatever word that is, but you know what we're talking about, right?
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Yeah, I know what we're talking about. [laughter] So, what are we talking about? So, yeah, like you said, the word itself now is, I feel, being used in ways, you know, when I first started talking about this,
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it was really about waking up from the dream of who you believed you are to realize that you are actually existential awareness, life itself, whatever, can't really be contained in words, but that which gives life to all things.
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Looking through a pair of eyes and looking through every pair of eyes, waking up to recognize, self-recognition, like, you know, like that waking up from that dream, like I am life itself.
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So, when I first started speaking about this and walking this, it was that. It was waking up to that as that.
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And quite naturally, it became very easy and deeply passionate to point to that and bring about that recognition to people very quickly and instantly. And it was a passion, you know, because I was already in
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bodywork. I was a bodyworker and I was helping people to break free within the trauma, like to relive the trauma and release it from the body and go through this process of undoing and breaking free.
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And then when this shift happened in me, it was very clear that that work could only go so far and if a person or a human mind, identity didn't recognize itself before, during, and after the story of me,
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if there was no recognition, then there will be another layer of trauma and another and another because the story of me keeps going round.
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So, awakening was waking up out of that. And now I see that it's being used in many different ways.
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And somehow it's become much more of a do we really know what we're talking about when we say awakening? You have to really check in with someone like, you know, what does that mean for you?
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Yeah. You'd like to share how this awakening with the shift happened to you? I could, I could go there, you know. I think I've made so many interview conversations about that time in the prison and when that breaking free from
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being in prison. You know, I could really go there. I just wonder if that's okay. I'll try to take a different angle with it.
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So, when that shift happened, you know, I was solitary confined for already like a I'd been solitary about 18 months or something.
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Oh my God. Yeah, it was three years altogether. In the solitary? Yes. That's insane. No, I didn't know.
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See? Oh, okay. That's why you asked. Okay. No, it makes sense. [laughter] I don't want you to repeat something I know.
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Okay, yeah. So, you know, I was solitary confined in a prison cell. In a— In a yes, in a real prison. Yes, in a Japanese prison.
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And so, being solitary meant that I never ever had a conversation with anybody ever.
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And yeah, it was super, super Zen. But I was taken to a factory five days a week, Monday to Friday, to work on machines.
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Forced to labor. And in that factory, there were about 50 of us, and it was all in complete silence.
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So, the only words that are exchanged are about the work, like you got to do that, you got to do, and it's all in Japanese.
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So, there's no conversation, right? So, that was a long time in this process of really facing whatever a human can face in that situation.
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And it's ego death. At every— At every— From every corner, it's ego death. Because not only was I, you know, I was living such a free life, wild and free, and then the next minute I was taken out
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of that free life and placed in like a concentration camp style Zen prison. And so, my world was gone. And after, say, like I mean, the shock was massive, but after about 18 months, my world was really gone.
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Like it was a far, far away memory of a world outside. Now, I was in this system, you know? And I was the only white woman. For I mean, there were Colombians, but I was the only Western.
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And I was being in that silence, I was being like there was stuff going on between prisoners that were doing life to like mentally torture you, happening in the silence.
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So, all of this was happening all in the silence and it was all— and it was all happening in awareness.
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But nobody could see it physically. So, the guards couldn't see it and then people couldn't see it. So, all this was happening and it was killing me.
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Mhm. Mhm. Right. So, I go back to my cell every evening just wanting to die.
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I hear you. Yeah. Really, really, really just wanting to die. You know, and like breaking down.
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Not knowing even would I get out of there and if when, because you don't get a date.
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Yeah. So, this process was really, really, really deep and really ongoing and really stripping and stripping and stripping. And the only thing that was constant was presence because I had to be present to the needle on the machine
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and get this thing right because if I
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So, I was constantly, constantly present while this other breaking down of my mental, emotional, and every, you know, it's a long story.
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So, I don't don't want to fill up that space with that. But, one I saw the only thing I had was Osho books and I have told this in several interviews. That's why I was a bit hesitant to do it. I don't want to take
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up the space with that. So, I was reading that and I'd just read one page a day and he was always talking truth. He was talking this. He was pointing to what he was calling enlightenment, right?
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So, I wasn't a seeker chasing enlightenment. I was a prisoner in a cell looking for relief.
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Right? And I had a deep, deep commitment to he was my guru. I had that.
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Yeah? So, when I was reading these books each day, it was going straight in. It was going deep into where he was pointing. So, there was I was just like, you know, my eyes were like and everything was expanding at the same
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time this human was breaking. And one night out of complete and utter exhaustion because my mind was fighting the situation 24/7.
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I didn't sleep, you know, I was always looking at the calendar, always trying to figure out all the scenarios of getting out of there.
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And one night I arrived back in the cell and at the time you're allowed to lay down cuz otherwise you got to sit, you can't lean against anything.
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And the time you're allowed allowed to lay down, when I lay down the exhaustion I just let go. I wasn't trying to get anything or get anywhere. I just let go exhaustion.
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And I fell into the pain which was extreme in my body. It was extreme in every muscle, in every nerve, in every every level of experience. Extreme pain was there.
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And the pain from working on the machine and doing a repetitive movement day in day out, there was pain, pain, pain.
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And I couldn't I had no nothing left to resist. So, I just fell into the pain.
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And as I fell into it, it was like I started to just fall, fall fall [snorts] [gasps] into the deeper layer of that pain and fall and breathe and fall and fall and fall until a moment came where
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[snorts] everything just opened. And then this is basically the same way that when I'm walking and retreats and Buddha dropping, call it dropping.
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And then I just dropped through a layer of our identity. I dropped through all that's in the way of the vastness.
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I dropped through that and the opening now there was no experience of a body, no experience of someone in the present. It was all gone. It just all opened and opened and opened into light freedom.
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And it was light and beautiful and I just kept letting go. I just kept letting go and there's no thought and you know, one thought did come. It was like, "What's this?" And thought just dropped and I just it
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just kept opening and opening and opening till I was in this vast, wide open, free bliss.
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Freedom. There was no prison anymore. It was all gone. Everything was gone and I traveled there all night. And I actually, I mean it sounds a bit crazy, but I actually I could go anywhere I wanted. I could go,
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you know, I found myself in supermarkets in England taking things off the shelf. I could go anywhere. It was It was just a whole lucid lucid dreaming space opened within that vastness. Anyway, so I I I didn't know what that was.
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I didn't care. I didn't question it. The only thing is that when I woke up the next morning, the mind was no more running at the calendar, trying to figure out when I'd get out. I was just here.
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And I told this many times. I could just see the sunrise over the mountain through the bars in the window. I didn't see the bars. I saw the sun rising. So, I saw the beauty.
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And so, everything shifted to I'm just here now. It didn't It didn't even matter anymore Mhm. When I'd get out.
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Mhm. You know, so everything shifted. But I couldn't put a label on that and say, "Oh, this is an awakening. Oh, this is you know, it didn't matter. It didn't It just that I was And what I can say looking back on it,
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you know, and it's still so fresh to me today because it it really is eternity. It's It's here.
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It's now. It's It is Yes, the story is a memory of 30 years ago, 29 years ago.
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Um but the the experiencing and the the the the the the recognition and realizing the is here now. It's never gone anywhere.
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It's cuz it was of what is always here now, right? So, um after that, a lot changed. I was still physically in pain. I was still experiencing and but I saw everything differently.
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Mhm. Mhm. And there was a smile deeply because everything else had been taken away.
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But it was like I found some something that couldn't be taken. So because that couldn't be taken and this smile inside could never be taken.
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This was free and because of that the value of it was everything. So I would say that that was a real key.
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Cuz it wasn't just a moment of recognition and then going back to you know, it was the value was it everything. Everything, everything, everything.
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And looking back I can see that um what really set that up was that I was totally totally only being awareness all the time because I had no relationships.
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I had no relationship to any other person. So all the roles on all the relationships were gone.
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So what what is then left? Being aware. And that's all that was left. So you know, that was a that was the great gift in it all.
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But so that yeah, I could extend that. You know, it's all what I talked about with Lisa in her interviews.
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Okay. Um Yeah, we'll put the link for people if they want to hear it.
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Yeah, and you want to hear it. So there, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Thank you for sharing.
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Well, thank you for asking. But I like I say, you know why I hesitate because I told it so many times that I think that we can go we can we can touch on some new things.
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Yes. Mhm. Mhm. What are you drinking? Matcha. Ah, I love it. Yeah. I love it.
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Mhm. Yeah. Okay, let's bring bring our conversation to today, to nowadays. You have been you have been really busy lately. And maybe for some time.
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Doing all these group teachings and um as usual life events. It's wonderful. And do you notice any trends that are active or alive? Like what's happening now in the scene?
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There's so many. Right. Yeah, yeah. But the one that's quite alive for me and was alive this morning as I was just making my smoothie and you know, one that's working through me.
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Um So, yeah. Linking the story I just told to this also. Um So, the trends that I've seen in this uh kind of seeker's journey and um the awakening of of being, the awakening of you know, because so many seekers are
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want to get there and imagine that if they get there and then, you know, all of all of that.
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Um So, at some point and and especially when I first started speaking, um there was a an emphasis, and it had to be this way.
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There was great emphasis on the absolute recognition of pure awareness recognizing itself to itself. Bang.
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There is no other self I can find in here that has any substance. There's no entity in here other than this that is aware.
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Mhm. That recognition um the emphasis We we can call it the absolute recognition. Okay.
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The absolute Yeah, like the absolute awareness that is before like before every thought, feeling, experience sensation.
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I like to call it the masculine aspect. But um that was very much when non-duality first was being uh became popular, and you know, the Advaita Vedanta, and the whole um teachers were talking always pointing to that. And that had to be like that. It
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absolutely And me, too. You know, I start all of my retreats with this recognition first.
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It has to be it recognized. So, um So, when I first started sharing this, I was always naturally naturally naturally naturally There's no There's no even question about including the body.
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Including the uh story of me. You know, it is included. So, we don't have to include it. It's It's included.
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Right? I couldn't tell you that story about prison without the story of me. Without the experience of the body.
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Right. So, it's already included. It's not that oh, we have to include it, right? So, from when I first started speaking, that was what made me start speaking.
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Because I was seeing people walking around saying, well, I'm pure awareness and nothing touches that and I'm you know, there was a kind of a denial of the the human layer.
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And so, I came out, you know, like, but you know, cuz I had to learn how does it all come together?
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How do cuz that's what I faced when I got out of prison. I am knowing, I am this without any doubt, and now I got all these triggers.
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And now I got this female stuff going on and hormones and this and that and how does it all come together?
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So, this was my living inquiry in in the integration. The never-ending integration. Right. So, that was natural. It's not something I had to decide like, oh yes, but it's included.
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So, what I see in the trends is that it seemed to have swung all the way it at one point it swung all the way to there's nobody here, there is no separate self, there is no other, there's no other, which is all true.
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But leaving out the the integration in the humans. More of a denial. And I what I see now is there's this trend where it's kind of the human has claimed it's I'm here, recognize me, don't deny me, you know, with the trauma and with the
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Mhm. all of that comes with the nervous system and all of that. And absolutely, absolutely. You know, it's raising its hand, it's saying, "Recognize me. I'm included. Da da da da da da." And the trend seems to have gone swung
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back to this um like the human that has to have its place. But somehow there's such a danger there of overlooking.
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Yes, this is all true. And yet who are you really? You know, who are you in the first place? Who are you? And where do you come from? Where where are you coming from?
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And because yes, I agree with all of it. I agree with being trauma-informed. I believe I agree with the working the integration, which I have always worked in all my retreats. I'm always working with that.
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Yet, there has to be, from where I look, a fundamental recognition of who am I really? Who am I?
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Right. And unless there is this this true recognition, not just an understanding of oh well, I know that I'm just there's really nobody here and I'm pure awareness and da da da da da da, but so quickly back to this
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identity, fighting for the identity without a clear recognition of who am I really? Like really, truly, directly, intimately seeing, knowing experiencing.
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Without that, this human cannot really be met in freedom. In true freedom. You know, it's still somehow watered down. The recognition of who am I is watered down. This is the trend that I'm Mhm.
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noticing. That it can be Not always. Mhm. But it There's a danger of it being watered down. Like it Yeah, yeah, I know I'm absolute oneness, but this is the main point. I'm all my human stuff.
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And if that is overlooked, if the if the fundamental recognition of of what one is because all this human is going to pass away.
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Absolutely all of it. We will lose everything. Yeah, and if we don't know what cannot be lost, not just at the end of the life, on the deathbed, but in every moment, when we're losing things like relationships, when we're losing things like uh we lose
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things, you know? It's the nature of life. We lose things. Things get taken away. We lose people we love. We lose financial security. We use We lose things that we hope we can rely on.
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Mhm. But nothing is reliable. Right. This in this play that we are living in our human journey, nothing is reliable.
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It will all be taken away. So, if we if we don't have an anchor, if we are not anchored in who we really are in the midst of this human journey, then we cannot be truly free.
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Right? But if we recognize, if the fundamental truth of who we are is recognized, and then we are here to walk our human journey from the point of this recognition, and then we are when we have troubles with another
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uh human triggers um stories, all of it. Yes, it touches, it makes irritation, it makes anger, it makes all these heartbreak, whatever it can make, yet the seeing through that nothing's out of place, everything is you know, it's all one thing that's
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revealing itself to itself. We cannot have this wide-open view and meet the particular and feel all the human-ness really and truly without being identified with that identification without a true, deep, direct knowing of our fundamental nature within our nature.
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You know, so this is with the trend that I'm watching, looking at. Because look, it's true.
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Is it Is it okay okay if I keep going a bit because this yes, it's important message.
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Thank you. Yeah, this is what was moving through me this morning because, you know I see things in the landscape and da da da.
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Um the uh the flawed spiritual teacher. Right? So, when a seeker doesn't really know themself deeply, doesn't really know the point of view that I was just sharing, they project on everyone, not just the spiritual teacher, but they project on everyone.
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Mommy, Daddy, uh relation the projections are as if real. Right? They are it's all the projections. Real or not, the projections.
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We Yeah. So, when the the seeker is with a spiritual teacher and they project um No, sometimes it's rooted in rooted in Mommy, Daddy stuff.
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They want to be saved. They want someone else to do it for them, or they project perfection.
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Like uh like hold them up and on a pedestal and project perfection like they the the perfect then [clears throat] they then they should be like this and they should be like that. And if only I can get there, then I will be uh
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saved or whatever. Right? Whatever the projection is. And then when the spiritual teacher, which is a human being, which is a human being which is transmitting a message that has at some point been a revelation in their human
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journey, you know, it's is it beyond the human but including the human, cannot happen without the human.
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Right. So, their human remains the human. The human is not uh updated to a perfected saint or something.
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Would be nice, right? [laughter] You know, I don't want to live up to that. I'm I'm no saint.
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You know. [laughter] Me neither. I saved myself from day one by right from the first day saying, "Hey, you know, always always like I'm human and I'm not perfect and I've got all these things. But, what I feel
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is that this is part of the teaching. It the It's part of the teaching. It's like, "Look at me. I'm not perfect. Why do you have to wait to be perfect to be free?" You know? So, because when that
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projection is there, then then those seekers cannot accept their flaws. Mhm. They cannot accept their their Oh, but sometimes I feel jealous and sometimes I feel not good enough or sometimes these things are activated. Oh, therefore I'm not there yet and then Well, what about
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finding freedom with those all those things being allowed to freely be here just as aspects of consciousness that are waiting to be met and waiting to be fully welcomed to be what they are.
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You know, like I I feel that every flawed spiritual teacher that's being brought down off the pedestal or whatever they should never have been on anyway.
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Um, it's only you know, it's only confirming the teaching of this is not about the human perfection.
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It's not about perfecting the human. And what what came through me this morning as I was uh was the memory when I got the point on this because my first um when I got out prison, my first teacher
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who really uh was speaking very clearly and eloquently and was the reason why I could recognize, you know, I started recognize that's what's happening here.
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That's that's it, you know. Mhm. Was Gangaji. Oh, wow. Gangaji. Yeah. She's so eloquent, so clear, so and she was a adviter.
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And she was very very and it was just like [sighs] ah, it was just confirming this deep smile inside that can't be taken.
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And then, you know, of course I'm projecting on Gangaji. It's like ah, Gangaji, yes, of course. And then and I love that and I bow down to that and I and I love that play of that. You know, I've no problem
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bowing down to the truth. I've no I'm for it. You know? And it doesn't mean like oh, someone is higher and someone is lower. I don't care about all this you know?
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So, um at some point her partner, her husband had an affair within the sangha and it all became public and there was all this big outrage.
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He had an affair with someone in the sangha, right? He did what? He did what blokes do. What men do. He did He did what men do.
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[laughter] Right? He He He did the the terrible thing of following his dick, I guess. I mean, sorry. Eli, I didn't mean to say that about you. But who knows what he did. It could be all pure.
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Who knows? But that's how it Mhm. To me perfection. Cuz I was seeing it and every all people were like, "Oh, she should take it and cannot be a teacher now. Just take it down. Come down in the room." blah blah
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blah blah blah. And all this screaming going on. And I was just like, "Wow.
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[laughter] What a perfect teaching." Mhm. He's showing. Look, you can have this realization and still have your human unfolding playing out. Therefore, can you recognize yourself right now as you are?
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Mhm. Mhm. No matter what. No matter what is not there yet. Can you recognize yourself who you really are deeper than everything right now in the midst of all your flaws?
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That was the teaching. You know? And that's what we're seeing in the in the the undoing of the spiritual the teacher-student master-disciple era coming undone. That's what we're seeing is is these um all these false project projections and
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in often cases it's guys being called out for sexual things. Um but to me it's just it's just it's not exposing.
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It's just it's just perfect. You know? It's just showing it as it is. Yeah.
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So, we had a technical difficulties, but we are back. Yay. And I think it was so such a powerful message that we broke the internet and the computers and everything.
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[laughter] But whoever needs to hear this, this is serious. This is very serious that you don't need to be perfect.
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And you don't need to wait for anything to recognize your true nature, what you are.
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Now. Don't need to be good enough, pretty enough, rich enough, or anything. Enough. It's enough now.
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Because it's not even about the person. Yes. It doesn't exist. [laughter] But then again, you know the danger in that.
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Because then it's like if if if this is this is the point is if the ego hears that, then and and this this was one of the um you know like you get these pointers Mhm.
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that have come down from great sages and great people who have been messengers, pointers have come and then the ego takes it and uses it.
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And it's exactly like that. Okay, I'm all perfect. There's nothing to do. So then I can just smoke dope all day and uh lay on the couch and not that there's anything wrong with those things, but that's not it either.
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[laughter] It's not for the ego. Yeah? It's a beautiful beautiful um process of true self-realization.
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Like what are we here on this planet? Who are we? What are we doing here?
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Yeah? Mostly historically and and being entertained. [clears throat] [laughter] But that's just on the surface, right?
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There's so much more going on. Yeah, we we are consciousness and for consciousness to to know itself through human experience and realize itself beyond experience through the human journey is ultimate freedom.
Speaker A
Like we get to live freedom while still being in prison. Yeah? Yeah, freedom in jail. That's why I made so many videos. Freedom in jail.
Speaker A
You know, because it's it's the same for the mind. It's like the jail is the mind and if we find freedom in jail the mind can stay.
Speaker A
It does stay, right? All right. Why would it go? It's like you see colors, you hear sounds, you perceive thoughts and images. Why would that go?
Speaker A
And it's a beautiful tool. When when it does go, like in cases like dementia or Alzheimer's Yeah.
Speaker A
you know, who are we when we lose the ability to use the mind. Mhm, still here?
Speaker A
Really? Yeah, it's it's a massive respect to the mind. You know? All right, I see a trend, a big trend.
Speaker A
What I see is that the most common thing people say now is I get this intellectually, I don't see this in experience.
Speaker A
How do you What would be your comments on that? How would you say? I come to you and say, "You know what, Ananta, I get it. I read every book.
Speaker A
I saw your videos. Yeah. I get it, but I don't see it. It's not my experience." Right.
Speaker A
So, what is it in you What is it in you that knows that you get it?
Speaker A
Yet you know it's intellectual. What is it in you that knows that? Good question.
Speaker A
Yeah, I don't give answers. I give questions. Good question. [laughter] [laughter] So, it points right back to that.
Speaker A
Which cannot be known in any other placeless place than by itself, right? Mhm. And what's often missing in that scenario is direct recognition of that.
Speaker A
Without the the thinking process jumping straight on. And telling a story about it or owning it and it's it's really for me always about stopping that.
Speaker A
Finding a way to stop that. Thinking process. Right. Yeah. And then people come up and say it's blank.
Speaker A
There is no answer. Nothing is coming up. [laughter] I'm like, yes, yes. Yes. [laughter] No.
Speaker A
I don't get the answer. [laughter] Is it blank? Yeah, it's blank. I'm not taking it. Give me something.
Speaker A
[laughter] Yeah, what is this blank made of? I know it's a podcast and we have to talk.
Speaker A
[laughter] So that otherwise people going to start checking if their devices are not broken.
Speaker A
[laughter] Run out of battery. But for me this these moments of silence are what these podcasts are about, really, truly, deeply.
Speaker A
meeting What could be beautiful right now, but it's it's not possible, but if people could now raise their hand and ask a question.
Speaker A
Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, I think you can write the question in the comments if they have a question.
Speaker A
Yeah. Yeah. And come to meeting to meetings alive Mhm. in person and what whatever programs you do.
Speaker A
like it. There is nothing like it. Yeah. I miss that. You know that. Online is fantastic, is amazing, we are so lucky, but in person is something else.
Speaker A
Yeah. Yeah, our time is coming to the end and I want to ask you uh [laughter] a final question.
Speaker A
Okay. Go for it. I say anything that you want. Spontaneously in this moment that wants to be said.
Speaker A
Um You know, for hundreds if not thousands of years messengers have been coming with this message.
Speaker A
The same message in so many variations. And never has it been like it is now where it's in it's actually become so available and so almost in mainstream.
Speaker A
You know, it's so available like And the the danger is that the the value of what this message points to gets watered down or lost.
Speaker A
There is a danger in that because ultimately from where I look, this is the greatest value of the life.
Speaker A
To come to know this in your heart, in your being and to live from this is the ultimate You know, everything else can be going wrong. It can so-called wrong. You know, it can all be whatever it is.
Speaker A
It'll pass away, but this it comes with you. It's always with you and it leaves with you. You leave with your depth of consciousness.
Speaker A
So, I would say from my point of view give the whole life to that.
Speaker A
That's powerful. Mhm. And that's what brings us together in this moment. It's exactly that because that's what we value.
Speaker A
Yeah. Yes. And thank you so much, Ananta. Such a pleasure to connect with you again.
Speaker A
Thank you so much. Same, same. Very beautiful. Mhm. And Ananta is there anything coming up that you want to invite people to?
Speaker A
Yes. If this message touches you and you feel deeply uh authentically called come and join me. Take a jump next month, April 22nd to 27th in person in Portugal.
Speaker A
I would love to meet you in the deep end. Ah, there are really nice clips there.
Speaker A
You can just [laughter] [clears throat] [laughter] Mhm. Thank you. Mhm. Mhm. And if this message finds you and you feel something resonating or something that is curious it doesn't matter who is the finger that points to that, who is sharing the message? It's about
Speaker A
the message. And thank you for listening. See you next time. Thank you. Thank you.
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