Speaker A
Um, so I want to get your view on what I'm going to share. A couple of years ago, I had a crisis, and I now see that there were many narratives, you know, and there was a lot of psychological pain. So I started this search at that point.
Rupert Spira explores the nature of meditation, doubt, and the pursuit of peace beyond effort and future experiences.
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Key Takeaways
- Meditation should not be about striving for future experiences but about recognizing presence now.
- Doubt and mental narratives often complicate spiritual practice and cause psychological pain.
- True peace and being do not require effort or continuous practice; they are always accessible.
- Silence and stillness help calm the mind and reveal the simplicity of being.
- Seeking peace through external experiences is futile as all experiences are transient.
What the video covers
- The speaker shares a personal crisis that led to a deep search involving various meditation practices.
- Despite many hours of meditation, there was a feeling of exhaustion and lack of progress.
- The speaker encountered teachings from Gangaji and others emphasizing stopping the mind and doubt.
- There is an internal conflict between continuing practice and the desire to simply be without effort.
- The idea that meditation or practice is often driven by hope for future peace or experience is discussed.
- A dream involving Mooji reinforces the message that one does not need to try so hard to be present.
- The importance of silence and stillness is highlighted as a way to calm the restless mind.
- The dialogue questions why one practices and challenges the notion of seeking experiences outside the present moment.
- Rupert Spira advises seeing clearly that future experiences will fade and encourages embracing the present being.
- The concept of effortless being as the only true experience is emphasized, quoting traditional wisdom.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Personal Crisis
- 00:37Exhaustion from Meditation Practice
- 01:23Encountering New Teachers and Doubt
- 01:52Questioning the Purpose of Practice
- 02:35Dream with Mooji and Message of Effortlessness
- 04:55Importance of Silence and Stillness
- 05:31Why Do You Practice?
- 07:16The Futility of Seeking Future Experiences
- 09:25Embracing Present Being and Letting Go of Striving
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Speaker A
lot of psychological pain so I started this search at that point um and I tried you know I did all sorts of meditations and many hours a day and and then I got really tired um I was like my god um of course I was
Speaker A
I tried, you know, I did all sorts of meditations, many hours a day, and then I got really tired. I was like, my God. Of course, I was progressing in a kind of a progressive way, but I'm like, I'm not getting anywhere here.
Speaker A
radicalness of just stopping the Mind doubting and and all all of that you know um and still in myself there is this doubt of what they sayare um and even Gangi um recently told me to you know whatever practice that you
Speaker A
So I suddenly found another, I was following anyway, I found another teacher. I found Gangaji and Papa, and I was open to that. The radicalness of just stopping the mind doubting and all of that, you know.
Speaker A
like I need to keep going I need to keep practicing you know and I've done many of your meditations um recently but there is this fight with with practicing and and not practicing and I'm just like there's this uh thoughts going on
Speaker A
And still in myself, there is this doubt of what they say. Even Gangaji recently told me, you know, whatever practice that you have is just a hope, a hope that you're going to get something out of it, you're going to get peace.
Speaker A
hard it's so it's much more simple you don't need to do anything and then I took off the headphones and I could hear him more um same message um and then I what I what I noticed is if I don't take time to be
Speaker A
And I see, I mean, I believe that on a certain level, but a part of me doesn't also. It's like I need to keep going, I need to keep practicing, you know. And I've done many of your meditations recently, but there is this fight with practicing and not practicing.
Speaker A
is I mean honestly I just want to I suffer with these narratives you know I identify with why do you practice I just want to feel free of pain um this is so so you're practicing in order to
Speaker A
And I'm just like, there's these thoughts going on about... So yeah, yeah. I even had a dream recently where I saw, I saw Mooji. I was in a forest with him, and he was telling me, I was wearing these headphones, and he was telling me like, you don't need to try so hard.
Speaker A
is that right um yeah I don't want to have these thoughts that if if you're if you're if you're practicing in order to find or have an experience that is not present now even if you find that in three months or three three
Speaker A
It's so much more simple. You don't need to do anything. And then I took off the headphones, and I could hear him more. Same message.
Speaker A
disappear I think I'm having a bit of trouble understanding um yes do you find hard to understand that um yeah well let let's um have you ever experienced anything in your life something that came to you that didn't at some point leave
Speaker A
And then what I noticed is if I don't take time to be silent, to sit, my mind goes like 100 million miles per hour, and I exhaust myself in activity and things, you know.
Speaker A
right it's not going to happen Ju Just just see that clearly have the courage to see that clearly anything you find in the future that anything that comes to you in the future as a result of your practice
Speaker A
So I don't know, what do you think about this? Why do you practice?
Speaker A
often when I ask a question you know to someone like you is like um it's not so easy to it's like I'm it's like almost I'm I'm looking for this an establishment in this understanding of peace and happiness you know this
Speaker A
So the main reason is, I mean honestly, I just want to, I suffer with these narratives, you know, I identify with... Why do you practice? I just want to feel free of pain.
Speaker A
I just I'm here um yes I am keep going uh that's it keep going I I I that's it I just is I don't know you know what Raman mahashi don't take it from me take it but take it from Raman mahashi you
Speaker A
So you're practicing in order to have some experience in the future that is not present now, is that right? You're looking for some experience that might happen if you practice long enough and hard enough, you might find that in three months' time?
Speaker A
practice in order to have the experience you had just then or how many teachers do you need to go and see um I mean not not many um not any no oh if I stop honestly I I see it it's just when life gets
Speaker A
Yeah, that's what I noticed. Is that right?
Speaker A
about meditation he said don't meditate don't meditate just [Music] be now how hard do you have to try to just be how were you trying just then when you went quiet and tried to tell us about your being H you were you
Speaker A
Yeah. I don't want to have these thoughts that if you're practicing in order to find or have an experience that is not present now, even if you find that in three months or three years' time, it will leave you by definition.
Speaker A
the only experience you will ever have and of course being is not really an experience but it it's the only experience there is that does not require effort remember the asakra gaita happiness belongs to that supremely lazy person for who for whom even blinking is
Speaker A
See that clearly. You're young. Don't spend the rest of your life looking for something that might come in the future and which indeed you may find because it will disappear. Whatever you find will disappear.
Speaker A
name badge on instead of in science we just wanted to say I am supremely [Music] [Laughter] lazy oh thank you rert
Topics:Rupert Spirameditationsamadhimindfulnessspiritual practicepresencenon-dualityGangajiMoojipsychological pain
