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What's up, everyone? Lance Hedrick here, and today I've got another tier list for you. So, a few weeks back, I made a tier list on electric grinders, and it was kind of my first step into this foray of making tier lists.
Lance Hedrick ranks hand grinders using detailed criteria, offering insights on taste, build, and ergonomics for espresso and filter coffee lovers.
Key Takeaways
- Taste and build quality are the most important factors in grading hand grinders.
- Different grinders excel at different coffee styles, so choice depends on user preference (espresso vs filter, light vs dark roast).
- No grinder reviewed was considered outright bad except the Hario Skerton, which was rated F as a budget example.
- Ergonomics and speed are less weighted but still considered in the overall score.
- Detailed scoring data will be shared publicly for transparency and deeper analysis.
What the video covers
- Lance Hedrick presents a tier list focused on hand coffee grinders, building on feedback from his previous electric grinder tier list.
- He uses a comprehensive grading rubric including body/mouthfeel, taste for modern and traditional espresso, build quality, speed, and ergonomics.
- Scores range mostly from 1 to 5, with some criteria weighted less (rated 1 to 3) to balance importance.
- The grading scale is S, A, B, C, D, and F, with no grinders receiving an F except the Hario Skerton as an example of a low performer.
- Lance emphasizes taste and build quality over price and ergonomics but discusses value for money separately.
- Specific grinders like the K+, K Ultra, Q2, Heptagonal, Pentagonal, Comandante, and others are reviewed and scored based on their performance.
- He explains technical details such as burr movement vs burr gap and how it affects grind quality and speed.
- The video includes practical recommendations for different coffee preferences, such as filter vs espresso and light vs dark roasts.
- Lance shares that he will make the detailed scoring Excel sheet public for viewers to explore individual grinder scores.
- The video ends with a balanced, subjective yet objective analysis encouraging viewers to find grinders matching their needs.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Background on Tier Lists
- 02:05Grading Criteria Explained
- 04:11Overall Scoring Methodology and Rubric
- 06:15Technical Details on Burr Movement and Grind Precision
- 08:16Performance of Specific Grinders and Recommendations
- 10:11Value for Money and Best Bang for Your Buck
- 12:09Comparisons and Final Thoughts
- 14:29Conclusion and Encouragement to Brew Great Coffee
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making tier lists and so I figured well let's take what we learned from that I read all the comments I took a lot of your feedback and we're going to make this one even better so today's is going
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And so, I figured, well, let's take what we learned from that. I read all the comments, I took a lot of your feedback, and we're going to make this one even better. So, today's is going to be on hand grinders.
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general I went through a made a lot of different grading criteria and so I'll go over each of these just briefly so you can kind of understand how I got to the scores that I have so the first thing I looked at was
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I added some on here that I haven't fully reviewed, whether it's because I just went through the testing and didn't think it necessitated a full video, or it's a grinder I didn't necessarily want to review.
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body or mouth feel that it would give and so I rated that 1 to5 I looked at the taste for modern style espresso so people that like lighter roasted coffees maybe bigger ratios maybe they're not looking for exactly texture but they're
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In general, I went through and made a lot of different grading criteria, and so I'll go over each of these just briefly so you can kind of understand how I got to the scores that I have. So, the first thing I looked at was
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this one to five as well and then the next few I only rated 1 to three because I didn't want them to have as much weight and these would be the speed of the grinding process the ergonomics of
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the overall taste of filter coffee that the grinder produces, and I rated that from one to five, five being the best, one being the worst. I looked at clarity that it would produce for filter coffee specifically, with a 1 to 5. I looked at
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an ergonomic point of view so how you change the the dial on it and as and how intuitive or accurate is it consistent is it things like that so I have all of these scores on an Excel sheet that I will make public so
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body or mouthfeel that it would give, and so I rated that 1 to 5. I looked at the taste for modern style espresso, so people that like lighter roasted coffees, maybe bigger ratios, maybe they're not looking for exactly texture, but they're
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grades the grading system is s a b c d then F all of these Grinders I don't think any deserve an F because I didn't really review anything that's absolute trash I would say that uh for an example
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looking for kind of clarity in the acidity. I looked at the taste for traditional espresso, so people that might be using darker roasted coffees or might want more body with their coffee. I looked at the build quality, and I rated
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obviously this is taken into account other things that you may not care for price I did not factor into this as far as the original grade I'll give but I am going to be discussing what I think are the best bangs for your buck all of
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this one 1 to 5 as well. And then the next few I only rated 1 to 3 because I didn't want them to have as much weight, and these would be the speed of the grinding process, the ergonomics of
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going down to around eight microns per click now remember this is eight microns of bur movement and not eight microns of bur Gap so if you think of the common Dante that's 30 microns Bird Gap bur movement is much more
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the grinder itself, which I know for some people this is a bigger thing to you all, but for me, the taste and the build quality matters a lot more than the ergonomics. And then your dialing in, so how difficult is it to dial in, both from
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going to give you that Clarity that some of these on your other Grinders might give you but it's built well super easy to use holds a good bit of coffee grinds relatively quickly and is going to last a long
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an ergonomic point of view, so how you change the dial on it, and how intuitive or accurate is it, consistent, is it things like that. So, I have all of these scores on an Excel sheet that I will make public so
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the k+ I'm just going to kind of meld these together I have reviewed them both and the K Ultra has kind of replaced the k+ but regardless we'll put them together they both receive right at the same score because they're doing the
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that you can go through and look specifically at grinders you might be interested in. But for kind of a whole holistic approach to this, I have kind of taken those numbers, added them up, and I have a rubric where it gives me those
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per click and you get good filter coffee with it as well it doesn't excel at filter in the sense that it's not a filter grinder but it does a great job and for a lot of people they prefer this
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grades. The grading system is S, A, B, C, D, then F. All of these grinders, I don't think any deserve an F because I didn't really review anything that's absolute trash. I would say that, for an example,
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though it does it quite well and on top of that it has that great build quality that is similar to that J Maxx so because of all this I do give it an a because I think for the price point for
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an F would be like the Hario Skerton when it's all said and done. So, we'll go ahead and put a Hario Skerton at F. If you're specifically looking for one type of grinder, you like only ultra-light roast coffees and only filter,
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them come out called the air but anyway these are phenomenal budget Grinders especially and for me the heptagonal now that one is small it's very it can fit inside of an AER press it's very lightweight and it's still built quite
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obviously this is taken into account. Other things that you may not care for, price, I did not factor into this as far as the original grade I'll give, but I am going to be discussing what I think are the best bangs for your buck. All of
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coffees though it doesn't excel at it that's where the pentagonal comes in the pentagonal has bigger gaps around the burs which gives you a faster feed rate a faster Grind Time and will produce more finds for a more espresso focused
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that said, with all of that understood, let's go ahead and start checking out these grinders. So, with the J-Maxx, all things considered, I give it a B. Now, this is a grinder that I really like because of its fine clicking system,
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annoying to have to deal with all those clickings uh and and also the build is not quite as good as their Bigger Brothers in the lineup overall with the taste included I give the Q2 heptagonal a c and the pentagonal a d but that is
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going down to around eight microns per click. Now, remember, this is eight microns of burr movement and not eight microns of burr gap. So, if you think of the common Dante, that's 30 microns burr gap. Burr movement is much more
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and the commandante that is something definitely to ride home about there's nothing really better at that price point for filter coffee and it still does espresso well though the time grinding will take a lot longer because of the smaller Burrs but to remind you
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granular. It does a great job largely with kind of old school espresso, so you want kind of that traditional thicker syrupy style shots. It can do okay with modern coffees, especially if you're wanting that texture. It's not
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they're always putting stuff out so the X Series in general I guess we can talk about this one is a great allaround tool and is at a price point between that K series and between the q2's so it's kind
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going to give you that clarity that some of these other grinders might give you, but it's built well, super easy to use, holds a good bit of coffee grinds relatively quickly, and is going to last a long time. But I do recommend this often to people who want an espresso-only grinder because the price is pretty solid. It is able to get really granular with the dialing in, and it tastes really nice. So, next up we have the K Ultra and
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a better build quality than the Q2 without having to spend the extra money for something bigger like the K series The X pro gets a a solid B for me and when you take into account price it might even raise up to an a the easy
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the K+. I'm just going to kind of meld these together. I have reviewed them both, and the K Ultra has kind of replaced the K+, but regardless, we'll put them together. They both receive right at the same score because they're doing the
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a huge thing for me I've seen that this greatly affects the alignment and therefore the particle distribution and consistency of your grinder and so having and a fixed Burr with XPR that's a big thing next up we have the zp6 the zp6
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same thing essentially. They both have great ergonomics with the click system on the outside. They both are more than granular enough to dial in your espresso. It's not as intense as the J-Maxx, but it's about 15 microns of burr movement
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everything else and he said this smashes it in Clarity the consumers didn't really like it they said it made the coffee taste like water it was too clear but that for me was like yeah baby hit me up so took
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per click, and you get good filter coffee with it as well. It doesn't excel at filter in the sense that it's not a filter grinder, but it does a great job. And for a lot of people, they prefer this
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for it so that was a pretty cool thing and then over the years it's become quite a staple for light roast filter enthusiasts now this grinder obviously it doesn't really fit under the categories that I'm ranking right now
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for their light roast filters. It gives you a more blended taste of coffee. It's very similar to the Comandante. It doesn't excel at traditional espresso though; it can do it pretty well. It doesn't excel at like modern espresso,
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rated on a separate scale and gave this an a now I gave this an a because it does what it does incredibly well it could have been an S had it it but it's not very good at dark roasted coffees at
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though it does it quite well. And on top of that, it has that great build quality that is similar to that J-Maxx. So, because of all this, I do give it an A because I think for the price point, for
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Petro now the Petro is something that I designed the burs for their Pro Brewing model I had nothing to do well I guess I had a little something to do with their multi-purpose burs they kind of changed how they create burs based off of the uh
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the build quality, for what all it can do, it is a phenomenal all-around multi-purpose grinder. Next, we have the Q2 Heptagonal and the Q2 Pentagonal from Easy Presso. Now, this is their kind of budget line, and I believe they now have
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outcomes even with the bass a lot of people still don't love it that being said my three-year-old can grind with the bass so it's not that bad in my opinion but it still is getting the lowest score possible for ergonomics
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them come out called the Air, but anyway, these are phenomenal budget grinders, especially, and for me, the Heptagonal, now that one is small, it's very, it can fit inside of an AeroPress, it's very lightweight, and it's still built quite
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to be the most unimodal hand grinder objectively with a master Sizer 3000 laser particle analyzer and I wanted it to beat in double blind tasting with my tasting group fellow ODed with SSP multi-purpose vers and I wanted it to
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well, especially for the price point of around $120. So, the Heptagonal excels similarly as the K's do with filter and with modern espresso and traditional espresso, kind of a jack of all trades type of grinder. It will do well with darker
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multi-purpose burs they actually do a great job with Espress ESO they do a good job with modern espresso they do a good job with Filter coffee and even though it doesn't top out any of the areas I give it a B on the main scale uh
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coffees, though it doesn't excel at it. That's where the Pentagonal comes in. The Pentagonal has bigger gaps around the burrs, which gives you a faster feed rate, a faster grind time, and will produce more fines for a more espresso-focused
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as an aspect next is the orphan espresso Apex now this I've not done an actual review on but I have owned one now for about year and I've used it quite a bit it's got big old ghost burs inside of it
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grinder or a more darkly roasted coffee grinder. But both of them kind of struggle in the dialing area with the internal click system. Though there are numbers on the bottom to help you dial, it's still a bit cumbersome and a bit
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lots of ways to get unim modality and kind of that super clear body you can have really low fines and a wide Peak and that's going to give you some good Clarity because you're not muddying it up with the fines but you can also have
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annoying to have to deal with all those clickings. And also, the build is not quite as good as their bigger brothers in the lineup. Overall, with the taste included, I give the Q2 Heptagonal a C and the Pentagonal a D, but that is
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bitterness as you would get from a grinder that's espresso focused it's a different type of bitterness that's kind of difficult to explain but there are some people that it doesn't bother and can be really great so when we're looking at the
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without taking into account price. When you take into account price, they're probably sitting respectively at an A and A B because for the price point, the fact that the Heptagonal can pretty much match the flavor profile of the K series
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does and you have to either like it or not I think with the Petro Pro bruise like I think a lot of people blow it out of proportion with how clear it is yes it's very clear but it is something that
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and the Comandante, that is something definitely to write home about. There's nothing really better at that price point for filter coffee, and it still does espresso well, though the time grinding will take a lot longer because of the smaller burrs. But to remind you,
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it a c with that though it may bump up because the price is a lot cheaper than the Petro so it kind of depends I wouldn't call it a bang for a buck because it's one style of filter for a
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the burr size is the same as something like the Comandante. Next, we have the X Pro, which is kind of like the all-around grinder that Easy Presso has put out, and I think they now have an X Ultra, but
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there's one grinder I regret giving away or kind of putting up for competition to my patreon it is this because it is a fantastic fantastic hang grinder it is what I would say the number one multi-purpose grinder on the market no
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they're always putting stuff out. So, the X series in general, I guess we can talk about this one, is a great all-around tool and is at a price point between that K series and between the Q2's, so it's kind
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and it has a massive catch cup if you want to grind a ton of coffee it also has a phenomenal dialing system for extreme get granularity and for the dialing in they actually use the verer system which gives you the most granularity possible
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of in between those with that burr size that's not as big as a K series, and it is one that I think a lot of people would really enjoy because it's got better ergonomics and a better feel and
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at the highest possible uh kind of consistency and output whereas I might choose something different uh something like ainu with pourover birds and then I could switch those two out because I love the espresso on the normal I love the
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a better build quality than the Q2 without having to spend the extra money for something bigger like the K series. The X Pro gets a solid B for me, and when you take into account price, it might even raise up to an A. The Easy
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inside which do really good job they're actually similar in Geometry to like something along the lines of zp6 though they don't hit the same Clarity they do a good job with modern and with traditional it's a similar bur also to
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Presso has absolutely done a great job of making all-around grinders that...
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everything about it I really really enjoy the Leo OG and I do think it deserves an and it's the only s because it's the only one that I think hits all of the areas quite highly it doesn't top
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anything out except for like build quality and diin but it's higher across the board than any other grinder because other Grinders excel in some areas and don't excel in others so we understand it that's why this gets the only s of
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the day next we have the hg2 from Weber workshops now this is one I haven't made a video on though I might at some point it's a very expensive hand Grinder like a thousand or more dollars it's a
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countertop Big Boy an absolute pleasure to use in fact what sold me on buying one was I was at an expo and I spun the arm on it and it just spins and it just spins and it just spins and uh that was
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kind of fun but also I like using hand Grinders and it's the least painful one to use in that you spin it a few times and you have your dose because of the massive 83mm Mazer burs now I
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notoriously am not a huge fan of Mazer burs though they do a they do a passable job on filter it's better than the Q2 pentagonal it's better than like the tyor C2 but just barely they do a pretty
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good job on traditional espresso and they can do modern espresso the thing is some people might love them for modern espresso and I've seen people who do like with the Weber key or with uh some of these others that house the 83 mm but
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it's a very specific profile because they produce massive Boulders and really small fines which gives you a very inconsistent looking Puck which doesn't a priori mean bad it just gives you something a little different so it can give people a lot of complexity in their
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beverages that they like there's just a little bit of bitterness that not a huge fan of I'm very anti- bitter to an extreme essentially to a fault and so for me they're not as great at modern as some people believe and and that's not
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saying they're wrong it's just we have different flavor preferences that all being said I do think it scores quite highly with espresso on both modern and traditional uh but it's definitely up to what you are looking for when I look at
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all the points it just barely squeaks into the a region but that's because of I mean makes good espresso and it's a big boy and it should have an A due to the price point that but then when you
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look at price point it probably drops to about a c because well you can get similar quality from a lot cheaper grinder you just won't have the joy of using it and maybe not the granularity of dialing it in unless you get
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something that has like the verer scale or something along those lines but anyway that's the hg2 let's continue on next is the Mazer Omega which I reviewed a couple of years back and was pretty disappointed in Mazer has a big name in
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the coffee world they're kind of like you know Legends with their uh Cafe Grinders you see them everywhere and so I was hoping for something especially some misleading pictures that were online of what the bird might look like
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and ended up not being that uh so in the end the grinder was a bit of a let down it has pretty good uh ergonomics The Click system is nice it's very well built I wasn't a fan of the arm of it
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being carbon fiber that is a choice I do like that it has all the magnets and it's kind of fun to mess around with but in the end the taste just wasn't there and I think this is a very common theme
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with Mazer going back it seems they've made some changes recently but they seem to have always focused on really dark coffees and kind of optimizing flavor for that so you're kind of stuck in in this one little area with flavor so for
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me I wasn't a big fan of the Mazer it still has a c as opposed to a d because it is built really well and it does have good ergonomics but those weighted smaller so the taste is what kind of
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rains Supreme which is what explains that sea and when you have the price in with it probably just stays at a sea it's not egregiously price or anything next we have the NOC air and the KNC Feld 47 they're not giving me insane
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Clarity they're not giving me insane sweetness they're not giving me insane anything they're pretty well balanced Grinders and so when you look at the price and you look at the flexibility of them they both do quite a nice
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job the KN 47 gets the B and the air will get a c though when you take price into account they may both even bump up one they're priced pretty well for how the quality is and how the user
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experience is that being said I'm not a big fan of the straight handle though there's not a lot you can do about that orphan espresso also has a straight handle which almost knocked it down to an a because it is a very short straight
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handle but I don't want to be too too nitpicky and the dialing system on the nox is not ideal I don't understand why not everyone uses a click system an external click system that should just be hand grinder 101 I don't understand
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it make it easy on us please now we're going to move on to the C40 and the C60 now the C40 I have a ton of experience with it's one that I you know it has its name in the industry but I don't think
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it's really Justified for the price and a lot of people argue well German engine in y y yada but you also have a quenu which is not as expensive that is built at higher specs and is not it's not as
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expensive when you take to the price it drops actually to a c but when you take everything else into account without price I think it's a solid B because I think taste is quite similar to the K which did receive an a the difference
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and what brings it down to a b is the fact that it is not a fixed to an axle that's a floating Burr and who knows what's going on there charge you for the red click system is a bit annoying
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especially because 15 microns of bur app is still not as granular as a standard K series easy presso it's still a good grinder people I know love it and honestly we have a lot to thank kante for with regards to communicating
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grinder sizes so I still will on occasion with someone we'll ask them what clicks they're referencing with a grind size in commandante because it's what's been kind of dominating the the the forums for a long time and I guess the bent crank is
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something they really want to be for so I guess we'll give them kudos for that if it's truly from them though uh I don't know anyway let's move on the C60 is next this one was a big letdown to me
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after all these years and I've pushed for where's the Innovation why are you not competing they come out with essentially the same bird just a little bigger it's not actually 60 mm as people might think with the name C60 uh and the
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idea is that it gives you a better particle distribution I've actually found the opposite to be true the same bur geometry but bigger means bigger gaps on the side means faster feed rates which as you would expect it generates
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more fines is built with quality though I don't think the price reflects it but I think the price more than reflects I should say this one is just going to end up with a B it it I I would prefer
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actually a C40 I know hot take next up is the optional Remy which I'm not even sure if it's still being sold I reviewed this a few years ago so I won't go over it much because I don't see it very
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often but in the end because of its size uh and the quality being just so so I end up giving the Remy a d it's price PR okay I guess so I wouldn't really change it for the price but it doesn't really
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the the ergonomics are it is what it is I would just in the end I would prefer something like a norm core which is a very similar grinder for like half the price or I would do something like a
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Time War C2 or a Q2 Q2 hectagon when you're going up against those at those price points it's difficult to really um say a floating Burr hand grinder is worth that I I I'm just not a big fan of
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it all all around uh the time more C2 is next this is a great budget option mostly espresso Focus can do filter uh you're going to get a lot better if you you know tilt it to if you're wanting to
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do filter to produce a little bit less fines but it ergonomically is solid The Click system is annoying but at the price what are you going to do so when it comes to flavor and it comes to the
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typical rubric this ends up getting a d with all things considered cuz it's terrible at filter and you're taking everything combined but when you add the price in it and you're take into account it's espresso forward hand grinder I
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think it gets an A and even if you throw filter in it probably would be a b with price factored in uh if you're looking for multi-purpose especially if you don't drink super lightly roasted coffees next we have the chestnut X from
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time more build is fantastic I love the way it feels I love the design of it I love the handle of it uh it just it doesn't give me the greatest cups I don't like the slic to cut Burr that's
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something I was heavily critical of a few years ago when I first reviewed it I think it's kind of just Innovation for the sake of innovation unlike their hybrid birds in the 078 I think that was a cool Innovation that looked like it
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was just hey we should try this so in the end I do end up giving it a b because I think the build quality is nice it does decent at traditional type things but you can see the full score
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breakdown again in my Google Sheets next is kinu now kinu has a lot of different grinders at different price points but they're all built with the same uh obsessiveness it's just different kind of parts so I think the quality is
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pretty generally High and the alignment that they do in Factory is fantastic I would never recommend taking that Burr off of the axle now due to the stainless steel build the the way it it you know the taste of the coffee coming out of
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the normal one with the normal burs is super high quality especially for traditional espresso but can do modern quite well it does okay filter even Matt Winton past World Brewers Cup champion really enjoys the kinu standard bur for
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filter it does a good job all around honestly the biggest knocks for me would be the dialing I don't I do not like dialing on it with that little you know knob at the top I think it's very
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annoying do not really enjoy the fact that you just have that little thumb rest when you're grinding it's kind of annoy to have to locate that and put your thumb on it in order to get the torque in order to grind it a bit
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annoying now the kein with the POR over bur inside I've seen people freaking out about this so I had to get one at the most recent Expo I will say I I see a lot of the hype but I don't understand
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the extent of it I think it is a great Burr I don't think it matches the zp6 I don't think it hits where the Petro Pro Brew is but I do think it is a fantastic Burr almost topping out those filter
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tastings it has really clear presentation it is a bit more Blended than something like a zp6 but it does a fantastic job with pourover and the fact that it is inside of the kenu it's going to give you that you know that
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experience next we have the king grinder K4 and the King grinder k6 fantastic budget Grinders up there with the Q2 heptagonal and pentagonal and they're a bit bigger so I would give the king grinder k6 a b it does okay with
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traditional espresso it does good with modern espresso good with Filter just like the K series but because it the build quality is a little lacking in comparison to the easy presso and a couple other little minute things it
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does end up getting a b price factored in it might be an S because that you normally it's at $100 on Amazon which is insane the K4 on the other hand suffers with Filter but is great with traditional espresso because of that
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shift uh even though the build quality is the same as the k6 it does drop to a c though I'd probably give it an a when you take price into them into account next we have the Ettinger X or S1 I
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can't remember which one it is but this one I reviewed a while back and was a bit disappointed I love that they have the verer scale just like the orphan espresso so dialing is awesome it's kind of cool that they have the outer
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rotating ring being the one that you're turning so that the the center cone isn't the one moving it is built interestingly there's a bit more plastic than I would like on it uh the handle is neat that you can store it away but in
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the end I was not a fan of all at all of the taste profile from it I rated it pretty lowly across the board it does traditional espresso well if you're wanting a thick textured shot but outside of that it's pretty stunted in
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my opinion I gave it a pretty high score on body for filter uh because it produces a lot of fines but the clarity is just not really there uh it matches like a Time War C2 on Clarity um but the
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traditional espresso I think it does a really good job at and I think a lot of people get it for that and it seems that that's kind of what they were going for with this overall it did end up getting a c
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uh and that's because it failed with modern things and with Filter but I do think there are a lot of cool things about it and I would love for a different bur set to be inside of it to
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see what it can really do with that build next we have the etman which this is a throwback it is a manual tabletop hand Grinder like so I reviewed it one of my first reviews I did on this
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channel it made incredible thick textured espresso but it is a pain in the beind to use you essentially need to mount it to a table terrible ergonomics great build quality it weighs a metric ton not really but overall it gets a d
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because it's heavy as lead it's difficult to use you can put in a set bur set in it it's kind of interesting that you can switch out those bur sets but it's just overall not doing anything great other than traditional espresso
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maybe if I didn't hate the ergonomics so much maybe it could somehow get a c but when you take price into consideration it it's sitting at that d uh for sure next is the one plug duel now this was
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essentially a copy of the momentum from I'm not a barista it's got the Dual bur system have kind of a pre- breaker Burr in the final cone bur it makes dialing in a pain there's like retention in it
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doesn't even taste that great you grind in an opposite direction it's just a weird grinder and I think on paper uh some people thought it would taste better than it did and some people I think let psychology get to them but if
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you objectively kind of taste them blindly I don't think it tastes that great it ends up getting a d i I just I'm not impressed with it with the flavor with any of it I think it was a
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rushed product because there's another grinder coming out like it next we have the momentum which isn't released yet I had an early unit so take this with a big old grain of salt but with the birds that were in it when I had it uh I I
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wasn't super impressed with the taste it wasn't doing anything greatly different than uh cheaper Grinders and for the price point that it was coming out at it was it was a bit lacking for me now the ergonomics and the clicks and the feel
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of it were great uh using it was fun but overall that that double torque is just a weird thing to kind of get used to I think it is being improved now and I think that's why it's been delayed so
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much so it's a hopeful B with the price point probably closer to a c because it seems to come out at around $500 so the last one is a c64 which is a hand grinder I've not yet reviewed though I
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think it's a really nice one it is built incredibly well out in South Korea and they're just now releasing it at around that $500 Mark so very expensive now this one uses a novel idea for the burs they have kind of a Roller Mill inspired
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pre- breaker so it's kind of like two off-center discs on the top that feed and break the beans before they go into the burds themselves this is kind of a cool thing I was very excited when I saw
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it come out now you would expect it to give a greatly different particle distribution due to that novel idea but in reality what it is doing is essentially acting as a pre- breaker similar to what momentum and the others
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are trying to do with a Comber up top but it's doing it in a different way it's more so smashing the beans as opposed to cracking with kind of Blade faces this is like what I would call the
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lab Suite of U of of hand Grinders gives me really sweet cups whether it's espresso or filter so it scores pretty highly in in The Taste categories though it's not really that high in Clarity the quality is through the roof but the
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ergonomics are abysmal it is very big even for my Big Bear Paws to hold on to there's nothing really to grip other than the body itself it has a really big handle on it that can be kind of
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annoying to turn and in in the end it's just a bit annoying to uh to dial in I don't like the dial in system it's a bit confusing and there's no real way to kind of track it I think it's a cool one I hope they
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make some changes to it uh in order to optimize it for the ergonomic side of it and maybe make the diin a bit more understandable we have 1 s which is the the orphan espresso loo OG we've got the K series
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ultr and plus the hg2 kenu m47 and c64 at a we have the jmax X pro Petro in multi-purpose not Feld 47 C40 C60 Chestnut X King grinder k6 and momentum at a B we have the Q2 heptagonal we have
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the mazra Omega NOC air King grinder K4 ET iner SI at a c and rounding out the D's are Q2 pentagonal option o Remy time War C2 etman and the W plug duel then at NE for Giggles we have the Hario skiron
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the filter a is zp6 B is Petro Pro brw B is also the kenu POR bur and the orphan espresso Apex at of C now that again that's not taking into account price which we discussed that throughout but I
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think the best bangs for your buck would have to be some of those easy presso options I think the orphan espresso deserves that s and I think it's worth the money I think it maintains its s stature even with the price taken into
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account King grinder k6 and the time War Q2 heptagonal I think are the best bang for your buck they get definitely s tiers for what they're bringing to the table across all the board if you're someone that doesn't like light roast
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maybe the king grinder K4 would be the s for you uh time War C2 is a great option as well for a cheap grinder but in the end that's about it I hope that you take a look at my patreon
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down below if you're interested in you know winning in competition some of these Grinders if you want to take part in my Discord and you know get on some of these YouTube lives I Do privately uh which we post on my secondary Channel
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hit the like And subscribe all that really helps thank you for the feedback I'll be looking at the feedback from this one as well as we continue to hone in this style of video but I think that's about it whatever grinder you
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have just know that it is good if you're liking your coffee that's even better I'm just giving you as objective of an analysis as possible steeped in my subjectivity but anyway until next time I hope that you brew something tasty and
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cheers all right baby
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