Speaker A
The trigger man, where we play no games and we got good aim. Welcome to the channel, and thank you for watching The Trigger Man.
The TriggerMan explains when and why to seal vehicle paint, debunking myths about 2K sealer and sharing professional tips for prep and application.
Key Takeaways
- 2K primer sanded to 800 grit is porous and may require sealing, while 2K clear coat sanded to 800 grit is not porous and should not be sealed over.
- Sealing adds cushion and chip resistance but should be applied logically, not just to isolated areas.
- Proper vehicle prep and burn-through repair are critical to successful base coat application without reactions.
- Different shops and manufacturers have varying protocols; painters must adapt accordingly.
- There is no absolute right or wrong way to seal; it depends on preference, experience, and specific job requirements.
What the video covers
- The video focuses on the correct use of sealing in automotive painting, especially regarding 2K primers and urethane.
- The TriggerMan addresses common misconceptions about sealing after sanding 2K sealer and explains when sealing is necessary.
- He compares the porosity of 2K primer versus 2K clear coat after sanding and how it affects base coat application.
- The video discusses the benefits of sealing, such as added cushion and protection against rock chips, but questions selective sealing practices.
- The TriggerMan shares his personal experience working in various shops and emphasizes prepping the vehicle correctly to avoid paint failures.
- He explains that some shops require sealing everything per manufacturer protocols, but there is no one-size-fits-all approach.
- The video includes practical demonstration spraying Mazda paint code 42M using Cigola DVR spray guns.
- He encourages DIY painters to understand their own preferences and shop requirements rather than blindly following internet advice.
- The TriggerMan stresses the importance of proper surface prep and clean burn-through repairs to prevent paint issues.
- Overall, the video aims to clarify sealing practices and empower viewers with knowledge to make informed decisions.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Topic Overview
- 01:28Discussion on 2K Primer and Clear Coat Porosity
- 03:03Sealing Benefits and Rock Chip Protection
- 04:20Advice for DIY and Shop Painters on Burn-Throughs
- 05:41Proper Base Coat Application and Vehicle Prep
- 07:02Experience and Shop Protocols on Sealing
- 09:35Sealing Practices and Manufacturer Requirements
- 12:28Practical Spray Demo and Final Thoughts
- 17:07Closing Remarks
Full Transcript — Download SRT & Markdown
Speaker A
here today man we're going to be spraying this here Mazda pain code 42g 42m sorry 42 m is the paint code today we're going to be talking about seiling not ceiling few things like that I got a comment under the video where I used the
Speaker A
All right, all right, boy, Trigger Man back in the lab, and today what we have here today, man, we're going to be spraying this here Mazda paint code 42G, 42M, sorry, 42M is the paint code. Today we're going to be talking about sealing, not ceiling, a few things like that. I got a comment under the video where I used the little porous gun, and I did the little Camry, and I did some sealer with it. Showed you guys about sealing, not sealing, using just a little gun to do that. That's actually what I did on this vehicle. I took the minigun to areas that were burnt through, a couple little areas burnt through, and I just put a little sealer. I had a guy leave a comment saying that anytime you have 2K sealer and you sand it, you automatically have to seal it because the sealer is then porous.
Speaker A
were burnt through couple little areas burnt through and I just put a little sealer I had a guy leave a comment saying that anytime you have 2K sealer and you sand it you automatically have to seal it because the sealer is then
Speaker A
Okay, I just want to, I want to, I just want to ask you guys' opinion on something because this has come up quite a bit, and it's time to go ahead and put the fork in it, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A
cuz this should be done okay 2K primer correct right you with me this is 2K primer sand it okay 800 it's finished with 800 okay 2K clear coat sanded 800 okay 2K urethane 2K urethane sanded 800 sanded 800 this is porous this is
Speaker A
Because this should be done. Okay, 2K primer, correct, right? You with me? This is 2K primer sanded, okay, 800. It's finished with 800, okay? 2K clear coat sanded 800, okay? 2K urethane, 2K urethane sanded 800, sanded 800. This is porous, this is not. Tell me, tell me, I want to know, I need to know this because I might just be missing something for the past damn 30 years of doing this. Tell me something, please tell me.
Speaker A
primer 2K urethane primer sand it 800 it's porous 2K clear coat sanded 800 it's not porous you cannot base right over this but you can base right over that hey man I tell you boy boy the internet the YouTube is something serious man the
Speaker A
Okay, one more time. 2K primer, 2K urethane primer sanded 800, it's porous. 2K clear coat sanded 800, it's not porous. You cannot base right over this, but you can base right over that.
Speaker A
more cushion you know it gives you a little cushion a little play so that you know maybe it won't chip as easy but then if you say well that case then you should seal this because it gives you
Speaker A
Hey man, I tell you, boy, boy, the internet, the YouTube is something serious, man. The bumper was a raw bumper, raw monster bumper. I put some adhesion promoter, Bulldog, and then I 2K sealed that front bumper, yes. They sit in the front, they get a lot of chips coming at them. They do, the sealer does give you a little more cushion, you know, it gives you a little cushion, a little play so that, you know, maybe it won't chip as easy. But then if you say, well, in that case, then you should seal this because it gives you more cushion.
Speaker A
if you want more cushion more flex and you want to be able to stand Rock chips seal the entire side seal everything seal all this perfectly fine door seal it why just seal right here for that reason man come on man y'all got to
Speaker A
Nine out of ten times, you're not going to have rock chips flying at the side of your damn thing. And also, if that's the case, then you would want to seal the whole entire side, right? I mean, technically, you know, if you want more cushion, more flex, and you want to be able to stand rock chips, seal the entire side, seal everything, seal all this perfectly fine. Door, seal it. Why just seal right here for that reason? Man, come on, man, y'all got to start making sense, man. Some of it is just, you know, you don't even have to know how to paint to use your head.
Speaker A
and the DVR clear Pro cap brand new cigas the 4600 not the extreme but they are extremely awesome so I'm going to go mask up mix up and we're going to talk about this okay so this is what I was saying I did
Speaker A
Anyway, man, we're going to be doing this today with the Cigola, the DVR base cap, and the DVR clear Pro cap, brand new Cigola, the 4600, not the extreme, but they are extremely awesome. So I'm going to go mask up, mix up, and we're going to talk about this.
Speaker A
guys you guys that are doing this from home this is fine for you you know this is fine for somebody in a shop no big deal all the little burn throughs that's where your problems happen when you have
Speaker A
Okay, so this is what I was saying I did here on this job. Took a little minigun, little sealer put down, it's a 1.0 tip on this, went ahead and just put it on the burn-throughs, okay, no big deal. That keeps the cost down for some of you guys.
Speaker A
of you guys ask me oh how do you put your base coat so wet and you don't have reactions you don't have anything if the vehicle is prepped right look how wet that's going down if your vehicle is
Speaker A
You guys that are doing this from home, this is fine for you, you know, this is fine for somebody in a shop, no big deal. All the little burn-throughs, that's where your problems happen when you have those burn-throughs and you go putting down your base over that. That's when you can have a problem.
Speaker A
that about the sealer you know there's no wrong way there's no right way it's what you prefer you know there are some shops I've worked in some shops before to where you have to seal everything there's no if and no buts
Speaker A
See, that's not really burning through, but hey, let me put it, that's where you have problems. You know, a lot of you guys ask me, oh, how do you put your base coat so wet and you don't have reactions, you don't have anything? If the vehicle is prepped right, look how wet that's going down. If your vehicle is prepped right, it's clean, there's no burn-throughs, there should be no problem.
Speaker A
it in their data sheets and that's what you got to do okay but having experienced and worked in different places and I know that that's not the only way to do things you know had I had only worked in one shop
Speaker A
Okay, I put my base wet. This is how I paint, this is what I do, you know, that's it, and it works. So for the gentleman that's saying that about the sealer, you know, there's no wrong way, there's no right way, it's what you prefer.
Speaker A
first paint shop working teaching you guys I'm only going to teach you what I know what I've learned okay or what I've learned from watching other videos but being when you've worked in this industry from the 9s you seen a lot of
Speaker A
You know, there are some shops I've worked in, some shops before, where you have to seal everything. There's no ifs and no buts. They want you to seal everything, and you have to do that. You have to comply. That's what you have to do. That's their protocol. The paint manufacturer, the paint line that they're using, they want everything to be done the way they have it in their data sheets, and that's what you got to do.
Speaker A
I've been at this shop come January is going to make 12 years I'm not going to paint stuff that I know is going to fail and come back and I got to fix it that's just stupid like if I was only here for
Speaker A
Okay, but having experienced and worked in different places, and I know that that's not the only way to do things, you know, had I only worked in one shop and I've only done that for a couple years, then I would think that's the way you have to do it. That's what I would teach you guys if I was recording these videos inside a shop that I worked at, my first paint shop working, teaching you guys. I'm only going to teach you what I know, what I've learned, okay, or what I've learned from watching other videos.
Speaker A
coming back to me so I'm not going to do that that I have the freedom to purchase whatever product I want whatever sealer whatever color sealer 2K whatever I want I have that freedom to purchase that at this shop here if there was really
Speaker A
But being when you've worked in this industry from the 90s, you've seen a lot of stuff, man. You know what works, you know what doesn't work. Okay, I'm not going to go putting down sealer or take it back. I'm not going to go and not put down sealer and risk the jobs coming back and I got to fix them.
Speaker A
little primer here primer there primer there yeah you want to do the whole car you want to get everything one color better for coverage you know if you guys are putting down 2K primer you sand your primer and it's not fully cured when you
Speaker A
I've been at this shop come January, it's going to make 12 years. I'm not going to paint stuff that I know is going to fail and come back and I got to fix it. That's just stupid. Like if I was only here for a year, you know how some painters, some body men or whatever, they jump around shop to shop, you know, here for six months, here for a year, it slows up, they move on. Like I'm here, anything that screws up is coming back to me, so I'm not going to do that.
Speaker A
dry you know and then to justify that you're going to put sealer over primer that's not even cured then that's still going to come back to bite you after once that goes down the road sits in the sun it's still
Speaker A
That I have the freedom to purchase whatever product I want, whatever sealer, whatever color sealer, 2K, whatever I want. I have that freedom to purchase that at this shop here. If there was really, really a need for that, I would have it. I would do it on every job. I would order it, whatever it takes, but it's not needed.
Speaker A
these 2K primers not all of them but most of them the 2K primer that you put down you can add reducer to reduce that primer and turn that primer into a sealer so really the same product that you're putting down can be turned into a
Speaker A
You know, if you're doing a whole car, a complete car overall, and you got a little primer here, primer there, primer there, yeah, you want to do the whole car, you want to get everything one color, better for coverage.
Speaker A
product and you guys know who's followed my channel from the beginning I've sealed vehicles I seal them I don't seal them it doesn't really matter either way the car is going to be fine the results are fine the vehicle doesn't come back
Speaker A
You know, if you guys are putting down 2K primer, you sand your primer and it's not fully cured when you go to put your base coat on that, yeah, it's going to shrink back, it's going to suck some of that in. But again, that's on you for prepping the vehicle, prepping the spots before the primer was even dry.
Speaker A
so much material you know you got to buy your 2K primer hardener reducer then you're going to buy 2K sealer hardener reducer then you're going to buy base coat then reducer then your clear coat then your activator then your reducer
Speaker A
You know, and then to justify that you're going to put sealer over primer that's not even cured, then that's still going to come back to bite you after once that goes down the road, sits in the sun, it's still going to dry and shrink up on you, and it's still going to have a trace mark, an outline of where that was.
Speaker A
you want to some extra extra security and you want to do that then fine you know there's nothing wrong with it but to say it's needed and not using it is incorrect no that's just wrong that's wrong that's 100% wrong and on top of it
Speaker A
So again, it still comes down to prepping the vehicle right. Prep the vehicle right. Most of these 2K primers, not all of them, but most of them, the 2K primer that you put down, you can add reducer to reduce that primer and turn that primer into a sealer.
Speaker A
step to put sealer that's just more spraying you're going to be doing staring up dust more dirt to land in there I mean it's just an added step that you can avoid you know it's not 100% needed again this vehicle here I didn't
Speaker A
So really, the same product that you're putting down can be turned into a sealer, and again, that's most of them, that's not every single one, but a lot of them you can. So it's basically still a sealer already. You're just putting it down as a primer, same product. When it dries, it's going to be the same product.
Speaker A
four years won't even come back in 10 years with a problem for that it won't do my little blend here now it may come back for a little spot in that I'm doing right there just kidding just kidding don't
Speaker A
And you guys know who's followed my channel from the beginning, I've sealed vehicles, I seal them, I don't seal them. It doesn't really matter either way. The car is going to be fine, the results are fine, the vehicle doesn't come back with issues. The base coat isn't peeling off of the nonsealed 2K primer. Like, it's really not that big a deal.
Speaker A
done with this whole sealer thing man trigger man man I see what you're doing brother I see what you're doing man what you're really trying to do you're really just trying to give the DIY guys options you know
Speaker A
And especially for you guys that are doing this stuff from home, it's really not a big deal to you, you know, you guys going out buying so much material, you know, you got to buy your 2K primer, hardener, reducer, then you...
Speaker A
doing man it's just letting them know you don't have to if you want to you can but you don't really have to you know if you don't got the funds for it or the customer he's not paying for it you
Speaker A
don't really have to you know and you can get by and still get a great job that will last I get it trigger I can take it brother good message brother spray on brother spray on so that's pretty much it on this one
Speaker A
those are the results and that's going to stay that way today tomorrow year from now 5 years from now nothing wrong with that [Music] guaranteed all right all right got it done got it done this what we looking
Speaker A
like this what we looking like pretty good if I must say so myself pretty good pretty clean too pretty clean I saw one up there there yeah this sucker came out pretty clean man pretty clean now two a couple little pieces not bad for
Speaker A
whole damn side though in the dinosaur here it is in the dinosaur in Bedrock yeah it dig we got the cap there the cap the cap actually hasn't come in yet waiting on the cap so that's why that's not there cuz I know some smart
Speaker A
ass going to be like you pull the paint together but yeah man so that's what we looking like so you see want to Seal Seal you don't seal don't seal it don't matter man do what you feel if you want
Speaker A
to Seal Seal okay if you want some sex appeal don't seal you dig but yeah man so that's it so um end of the day today we'll probably get it out tomorrow in the Sun get a peek at it and go from
Speaker A
there so see you guys then peace all right this what we looking like next morning good morning everybody good morning top of the morning to you top of the morning to you this what we looking like right out of the
Speaker A
booth right out of the booth that's what we're looking like no problemo no problemo BBL Drizzy [Music] that's what we looking like no problem [Music] [Music] so yeah those are the results on that man looks pretty good um nothing with
Speaker A
the sealer man you want to put it put it don't put it put it whatever put half of it put some put none don't matter and again at the end of the day man it's only a spray gun now go have
Speaker A
fun okay so that's my take on the whole sealer situation if you want to use it use it if you don't want to use it don't use use it if you work for a company that makes you use it use it either way
Speaker A
you'll be fine and if you notice I didn't mention anything about sealing because of pin holes and sand scratches like if you're sealing for that reason then hey man you really need to work on your craft you know what I'm saying this
Speaker A
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Speaker A
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