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You'll be surprised how often this happens, and particularly in relation to today's case study breakdown, today's success story. It's coming from a client of mine who I am going to name Rihanna in order to protect her identity.
Discover how one imaginal scene transformed a 2-year no-contact relationship and revealed hidden dynamics in love and identity.
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Key Takeaways
- Old assumptions filter reality and can cause misinterpretation of relationship dynamics.
- Changing your identity and assumptions can unlock emotional blocks and improve manifestation success.
- Separation in relationships may be due to shared wounds rather than conflicting desires.
- Imaginal scenes can be powerful tools for emotional healing and reconnecting with a specific person.
- Recognizing small successes and shifts in perception is crucial for personal growth.
What the video covers
- The video explores a case study of a client named Rihanna who had no contact with her specific person (SP) for two years.
- Rihanna struggled to imagine loving scenes due to emotional blocks and assumptions governing her relationship.
- Athena Raven guides Rihanna through identifying and challenging core assumptions that caused her to perceive rejection.
- The breakthrough came when Rihanna was able to imagine a loving scene, which shifted her emotional state and perception.
- The video reveals that sometimes separation stems from two people reacting to the same emotional wound from opposite sides.
- Rihanna’s story includes initial attraction, fast-paced romance, and growing anxiety over lack of formal commitment.
- Despite success in business and self-confidence, Rihanna’s subconscious demanded proof of her worth and non-disposability.
- Athena emphasizes the importance of changing identity and assumptions to make manifestation techniques feel natural.
- The video includes a weekly success roll call encouraging viewers to recognize and own their progress.
- The case study highlights the power of imagination, compassion, and shifting internal narratives to transform relationships.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Case Study Overview
- 02:39Personal Success and Weekly Roll Call
- 05:18Rihanna’s Initial Meeting and Relationship Progress
- 07:31Relationship Challenges and Emotional Blocks
- 10:21Assumptions and Emotional Demands in Relationships
- 15:11Manifestation Techniques and Imagination Struggles
- 18:50Breaking Down Assumptions and Identity Shifts
- 23:19Imaginal Scene Breakthrough and Reconnection
- 25:47Conclusion and Reflections on Love and Manifestation
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Nothing to do with the singer. [laughter] But her and her specific person had not spoken for about two years.
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She knew that imagination was all-powerful. But of course, every time she tried to imagine any sort of loving scene, she told me that she simply just couldn't. She just couldn't imagine.
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So, she really thought that she was hindered from that point. But I'm going to show you how we worked together, how we worked on her assumptions. I'm going to show you a main key assumption that we worked on that unearthed
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everything that governed this relationship, that put this whole relationship on trial, and how we broke it down so that she could finally enter this very short scene. And once she did, just the power of it, right? Once she
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did, what happened afterwards was really remarkable. Like really, really extraordinary stuff. Because the real twist in all of this was actually discovering what had been happening on his side whilst she was imagining. So, in this video, I'm going
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to show you how to uncover the assumptions that are currently governing your life, no matter what it is. It doesn't have to just be love and a specific person. Could be anything.
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We're going to look at, in her specific case, how that assumption functioned to make everything look like rejection. And I'm going to show you how changing your identity can make your imagination or whatever technique you use suddenly feel
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very natural and fluid when perhaps all the times before it failed. Because sometimes, and this might be a little juicy gem to take away, but sometimes separation is not actually two people wanting different things. Sometimes it's actually two people obeying the same
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wound from opposite sides. Do you get me? Sit with that and then sit back and relax. Grab yourself a hot drink or a cold drink. We're still—this is actually like the biggest success of mine this year, this
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heatwave, right? So, I've already shared my—I'm a success because this heatwave has just been everything that I have wanted, everything that I saw. So, I'm sorry for the rest of Europe that is perhaps not enjoying it as much as I am,
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but this is just like the rarest thing in England. It doesn't happen in this country ever. So, cheers everybody. Here's to you and your success. I've got my sippy cup.
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There's nothing like drinking from one of these things to make you feel like you're a five-year-old again.
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But anyway, at least I know it's safe from flies. That was my thinking. So, as always, before we enter into the depths of her success story, we're going to do this week's roll call. So, as I said, I've already announced why I'm a
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success. I'm—I'm—I'm owning up to this all now. Although I have done before in previous videos, as you know, but now I'm really owning it because this is just glorious.
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But every week, as you guys know, I ask you to complete one sentence: I'm a success because. And the reason that we do this every week is because your old identity is trained to overlook movement, to dismiss evidence, to
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remember everything in your life that confirms failure. And we're getting out of that state, right? We are not allowing ourselves to ever occupy that state of failure. So, as I'm sharing this week's successes from our public community, from our private Discord
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community, from my personal private clients, you can notice what the mind might have once called insignificant. You're going to start owning things that you might have brushed aside before. It could be a result. Could be a change of perception,
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a boundary, a bit of movement, an old reaction that you are no longer being a victim to, right? That's no longer playing out in the same way. Place yours in the comments now. I'm a success because this is this week's successes.
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You already heard mine. And this week's successes have been incredible. Actually, one of my clients—I don't know if you're still on the Discord, darling—um, but hers again, actually. She also had a two-year separation and then, like miraculously,
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against all odds, bumped into her SP and had a really great reconnection and it opened up so much. Very similar actually to some of the things in their story, too, which is very commonplace and I'll explain all why. So, shout-out to her.
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Shout-out to a few of you actually who have messaged me and I can't remember off the top of my head. Been some amazing successes.
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So, let's talk about Rihanna. Rihanna is a really, really amazing individual, actually. And she just met her SP on a night out, actually, at the bar. And he approaches her. He's all confident and, you know, kind of like this Jack the
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lad, I suppose, for lack of a better term. And, you know, he approaches her, you know, with all this brazenness. And because of the brazenness of his approach, she's immediately, you know, she's saying to me as she's expressing her
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story, "I know he's probably the kind of guy—I thought at the time that, you know, he's just used to targeting women.
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He knows exactly what to say." And she wasn't too interested at the time. She's having a good time with her friends, but this guy is very, very attractive and very persistent in getting to know her.
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He just really wanted to have a conversation. So, she's like, "Okay." He buys them drinks and they talk for the evening and they realize they actually have a hell of a lot in common.
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They just instantly click. They have the best conversation. They have the best night. And by the end of it, they exchange numbers and they promise to keep in touch.
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Now [snorts] he does keep in regular communication, texting quite regularly, you know, pretty much every day. They're meeting up regularly.
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Um, then they would, you know, uh, go to each other's houses. He would buy her very thoughtful gifts. He would bring her flowers.
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He was, um, expressing a very sort of warm generosity, complimenting her a lot. Now, she said it felt like she was being love-bombed because of how fast she felt that things were progressing. And because she had this pattern with a lot of toxic
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boyfriends, she felt she knew what to look out for. But despite that, she still couldn't help but fall in love with him. And they were dating for about eight months.
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Now, in those eight months, everything seems to be flowing really well, you know. She's already met up with his family by this point. She's really enjoying herself.
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She was really certain that she had a great self-concept. She knew what she wanted in life. She especially knew what she wanted in terms of business. Um, she had been engaged in the law already at this point. In fact, she manifested
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incredible success with regards to her business just applying what I had taught her. She had doubled and then managed to triple her income against all odds. And so, she was really, really confident in her abilities, but it didn't stop her from getting more and
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more anxious in relation to her specific person. As things progressed, she started to notice subtle changes.
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She's noticing there is a reluctance on his side to put any sort of formal—I don't know, label, uh, make a formal commitment on this relationship. And she found that really suspicious. She's thinking, "Okay, has this all
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been an act? Is this just about, you know, having the physical but not wanting to fully commit? Like have your cake and eat it?" And you guys know, there's nothing wrong with wanting that full clear commitment.
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She absolutely deserved it. But the issue in her specific case was that she was asking a very reasonable question from an unreasonable emotional position.
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And by that I mean, she might be asking physically and mentally, "Like, where is this going?" But subconsciously, she was demanding.
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She was demanding proof that she is not disposable. She would, I suppose, it is kind of like saying as well, y—
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he hasn't chosen her yet. And because she never got a clear answer from him, Rihanna's logical mind goes into this overdrive and she starts creating a story about him. She is catastrophizing the pauses in communication that seem to
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be coming more and more frequent. Um she would catastrophize whenever his responses, physically and in text, whenever his responses never met her expectations, that would be a catastrophe to her.
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She starts labeling his behavior. She's drowning in negative thoughts, right? Is there someone else? Is he getting bored of me? Has he joined a monastery?
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[laughter] Whatever it might be. You guys have had these thoughts, too. Maybe not the monastery, but but certainly in that sense of anxiety when catastrophizing takes over, the fear takes over, we can think all sorts of things as to why this seems to be
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crumbling. But Rihanna's reaction was not random. As is the case for any of us, it's never random. Her past pattern with men, which had involved attracting narcissists or just toxic men or guys that were just emotionally immature and
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not ready to commit, this was a pattern for her and this created this very hyper-vigilant state where she's constantly scanning for all of the red flags and therefore she question everything. But she's not acting, she's not like a just an anxious
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over-thinker. This is how the mind of someone with this specific identity functions in order to gain some control. See what I mean?
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So if she could find essentially if she could find the flaws in him first, if she could just she could figure out what's wrong with him first, then I suppose the logical idea is that you know, we're not we're not going to
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get shocked, we're not going to feel as disappointed later cuz I'm I'm looking for it. I've I've seen the red flags and I'm kind of like expecting it's like preemptive sort of strike. So and by the way, she's not consciously doing this.
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It's all subconscious. She's not consciously trying to push him away or be negative or be difficult. She literally believed that she that she was being totally factual in all of this.
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Even her friends backed her up as well and we know how much of an influence you know, friends and family can have on our opinions, right? Especially those we really really care about. She had one friend in particular, one of her bestest
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friends, that said to Rihanna like, "Yeah, you know what? He is he's definitely a narcissist. He's a bread crummer. He's probably a bit bipolar and stuff like that." I don't know what what other things she came up with, you know, it's
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avoidant type. It's all these kind of stuff. Because you know, he came in all heavy, but he's not committing, you know, is he kind of playing games, right? So, Rihanna's listening to her friends. And then she'd question his motives even
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more. And then she went even more from this place of trust to a place of fear.
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I mean, by the end of any sort of brunch with her mates, she had they'd all conducted this like full psychiatric evaluation based on like couple of delayed messages, one screenshot, and a glass of Prosecco, or something, right? It was
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just like it was just hilarious. And you know, I laugh about it and stuff because I know this. I work with so many people.
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And essentially, many of you are trying to do some sort of psychiatric investigation into their state of mind or what traumas they might have to try and explain what's going on here.
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But, as I had to point out to her, as I always do, cuz I don't let the fear get away with nonsense stories.
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I brought it to her attention that there was a actually a small problem with her friend's detailed assessment of his personality. And that was the fact that her friend had never actually met the guy. She had never met this SP. The
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friend is calling him a narcissist and all the rest of it, all the names under the sun. Her opinion was based solely on Rihanna's distressed retellings. Because we we don't often talk about the good things. We mostly talk about talk to our
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friends when we're stressed out, okay? And that's important because Rihanna was using her friend's judgment as an excuse to further cement this old identity.
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So, as the relationship progresses, because of all of this, they're starting to have more and more disagreements.
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It wasn't over major things. It It started off pretty petty, but they were getting quite regular. And then things would escalate. Then it would become more frequent. It was common themes again around his inability to commit, her demands for more regular
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communication and more consistency. She's telling him off for how she feels that he has treated her and she's criticizing his approach to things, be it work or how he arranges a vacation for example. And of course, it serves to cause a wedge and make the
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distance grow. Till eventually, he tells her that you know, he he can't do this relationship anymore, that it was really affecting him negatively and he needed to take a break.
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She sees it as a form of cowardice because, you know, he's just not able to step up. He's another emotionally immature or narcissistic guy.
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Despite this, however, of course, despite her resentment and her upset, she's still evidently extremely heartbroken about what had happened and after the breakup, her mind is sort of swinging between these extremes. You know, the heartbreak, the resentment. She starts
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off blaming him. Everything is his fault, right? It's his previous relationships, it's his narcissistic traits, it's his avoidant attachment style and selfishness.
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Um you know, the man asked for a break and by Tuesday, the internet had given him like several personality disorders. It was all this stuff that was the issue. And then she turns it, eventually she turns it on herself as we often do when we're
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in this state of lack, helplessness, sort of victim mindset, victim to the 3D reality. So then she starts, you know, God, this always happens to me. What is wrong with me? I'm not enough, you know, I'm always getting used. I'm never the
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woman that they choose. So of course, she does what a lot of people do in this journey.
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She gets into using techniques to try and manifest him back. The problem is, no matter what she used, it felt really fake. You know, she's trying to imagine a loving scene at the moment, but she's pushing against a load
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of fear and resentment. You know, she's forcing herself to engage in these methods at this time because she was completely I mean, she was afraid. She was essentially afraid to completely lose him. I mean, the more time that passes,
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the more of this gap, more unlikely it is that they might get together. I know how you guys think.
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I know. That is the common theme. But we know it's not going to work like this, you know? So, she had tried to work through it as best as she can. And I think all in all, perhaps for a year year, well over a
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year and a half, something like that, you know, she's working on it herself till she gets to a point where she can't stand it anymore, that nothing's working. She's still not able to imagine or to use the techniques
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effectively. So, you know, she comes to see me and we had to go really, really deep with her because she had at this point already worked um with some other coaches who'd given her, you know, the techniques. Like I say, for someone like
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her who was coming up against so much resistance, it just wasn't going to work for her. It wasn't sitting for her. So, I told her, you know, we're going to drop the techniques. You're going to not focus on
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any techniques at the moment. We're going to go straight to the identity and we're going to challenge the identity that is turning all of this evidence into rejection, that is making you feel like you're just disposable.
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So, I put her in the hot seat, like I do with with a lot of you guys. As you know, you always liken this to your free coaching session. Well, here it is. Um you can hot seat yourself as well whilst
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you're doing this cuz there'll be a lot of her story that I know applies to many of you. Her story is so similar to so many people I have worked with um as well. It's always a recurring theme.
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So, we put her in the deep code hot seats, right? We're going to break this old identity and we're going to gift her a new perception. And I'm going to give you a demonstration of how we do this,
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how we give her new assumptions that you can apply this to your own. Um, I just want to point out actually, um, cuz I know that a lot of, uh, coaches watch this channel and some of you are putting
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the pieces together where you're saying you've noticed changes in what the coaches are teaching and they're using the same vernacular and, you know, stuff like that. I can't obviously I can't share who we work closely with.
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But I know many of you guys who are coaches who are watching, you've come to me and you've told me that you've also been trying to use the hot seat with your clients and some of you have expressed that it's been going okay, but
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some of you have expressed, um, negative results. And I just just a quick aside to to the coaches watching this, please understand you can't just go in with, I mean, I have to summarize in a video obviously cuz otherwise it
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would just be really really long if I explain every single thing that I do, but you can't just go in with hot seat questions, you know, bulldozing them with confrontational questions and stuff and putting it out there. They've got to be prepped and
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primed. You've got to read your clients. So that's just a little side there. Um, but we put it into perspective for her because there is actually so much more to this story than you would think.
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Something is crawling on me. I keep Oh, okay, maybe maybe not. Um, so where were we? Yeah, there's so just there's so much more than meets the eye.
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You're going to see what I'm You're going to see what I'm saying. We're going to unravel all the layers of this.
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So as you know, from what I've shared with you, it's evident, right? One of the main factors, and I'll just focus on the main factors that drained her for, you know, for time.
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The main factor that really affected her was in inconsistent communication. I'm picking this out too because I know it's a factor that really affects many of you.
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Many of you watching this get triggered when there is no contact or little contact or pauses in communication. So, I gave her a different perspective.
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Based on her personal situation, I was saying to her, "You know what? What happens when a client takes 3 hours or a couple of days to reply to you? Do you decide that your whole business has collapsed?" And she was like, you know, well, "No,
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of course not." So, okay. So, why is silence when it comes to business neutral, but why is it catastrophic when it comes to love? It's the same for you guys, too, okay? Even if you can't compare it to your business, well, what
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about with relation to your friends? If your your best friend didn't text you straight away or a family member didn't text you straight away, you don't start questioning yourself or the relationship, do you? So, why are we doing that in relation to love, for
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example? And you know, in her case, as it is for many of you, in her case, it's because in business, she really trusted herself.
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When you really trust yourself, when you know who you are, it doesn't affect you so much. But in love, in her situation, she's waiting for another person to tell her who she is.
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Now, how many of you are waiting on your specific person to essentially tell you who you are?
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Because remember, when you come on this journey, everyone says, "Yeah, I'm I'm manifesting this, that, the other, a specific person, love." It's not actually what you're manifesting when it comes to people. You're manifesting who are you in their world?
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Who are you in their world? And after challenging her fears, I mean, we went deep into it. We worked through her assumptions. Now, this is what you do.
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You look at your backstory. 3D reality is the best feedback you will ever have.
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Look at your story. Look at the recurring patterns that have been negatively impacting all of your experience around relationships. That's what we did with her. What's her key assumption? Did any of you manage to guess?
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It's not as simple as she's not chosen. The clear assumption is, okay, men choose me in the beginning, but they don't value me enough to choose to stay with me for the long term. Right? They don't choose me for the long term.
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And this assumption actually explained everything. It explains why the initial attraction and connection felt really suspicious to her. Felt like it was too good to be true. Why generous gifts and flowers or or regular compliments becomes a form of love
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bombing. Why a displayed message or sorry, a delayed message becomes like abandonment, you know?
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Why essentially like 8 months of connection is erased and replaced with all of these labels.
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So, what we did was when we establish your old assumptions and what's causing you to think and respond to reality in this way, now you can stack up your new assumptions to counteract that. Joseph Alai, who is my for those of you who
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knew who's my SP I have I you know, I manifested a couple of years ago now. Um he's got a channel. He's got a video called assumption stacking. That's a um systematic manifesting was it with Joseph Alai, right? Go check out
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assumption stacking. There are loads of people in our private Discord community and our workshops. They've been using this approach. If you guys also need help with your assumption stacks, join our Discord community on consciousengineers.com.
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Um and he will help you specifically with that in our inner circle. And I'll also help with I'll do some hot seat work with you guys. And we're going to do a hypnosis based on the based on the information we extracted
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from the last hot seat that I did with my clients in there. So, if you want to join that, that is the link. And I know that many of the coaches that we work with and who come to us for for coaching
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or or for help or whatever, um they have reported to us that they've been using assumption stacking. I don't know if some of them have started maybe teaching this approach as well to their clients, and they've also been reporting
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back great results with this, and it's so simple. So, give that a shot. But, I would stack the assumptions with her.
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Off the top of my head, it would be stuff like, "Okay, the men that I love choose me for long-term commitment, right?" Something to counteract this old pattern, right? "My value is seen and appreciated from the beginning and
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throughout the relationship and remains continuously. The men that I love desire long-term commitment with me." And so on and so forth.
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So, then you can leave it like that once you've done it. I, of course, when I'm working with my clients, I like to go deeper. I like to cheat a bit.
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I would like to create I would like to essentially harden the identity from the get-go and make those assumptions a fact there and then because once the assumption becomes a fact inside of you, it begins issuing instructions to you.
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It will issue instructions what you should do, where where you should be, what you should notice, what to ignore, what other people's actions mean.
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I've mentioned it before, but I and I think it was a quote originally perhaps coined by Anaïs Nin, "We do not see things as they are, we see them as we are." And that's why because assumptions are the filter of
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your reality, that's why you always work on your assumptions, whether it's through assumption stacking, imaginal acts, hypnosis, whatever it work on your assumptions.
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Because you're always encountering people and situations through the lens of who you believe yourself to be. Who you are at that moment. [clears throat] Psychologically it might be described as confirmation bias and reticular activating system, but in the esoteric
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lens, it's about everyone becomes a messenger. Everyone is you pushed out. So I decided to put her key assumptions, what we once we established it, in the hot seat to really change her perception. Just give you a little tiny
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tiny snapshot of what we did cuz like I said, it's really in-depth. She had complained about his inconsistency.
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She had said that that is proof, right? [snorts] His inconsistency was essentially proof that he was not going to choose her long term. So I said to her "Okay be honest with me. When he messages you, do you respond warmly every single time?
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Even when he's being warm as well, do you always respond in a warm way?
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Now [clears throat] she was actually quite consciously convinced that she did, but that was not the case, right?
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Because sometimes, you know, she admits it to me that yeah, you know, she would make him wait for her replies.
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Uh you know, when she's forgetting, and this is what happens. When people are talking to me in session, I listen really closely to everything they say. I'm almost uh transcribing the session. That's how closely cuz I'm going to catch out their language. I'm
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going to use it against them, use their story against them. And because she's subconsciously talking, she doesn't that she shared the fact that she sort of delays her responses, that she's sort of responding quite cold. So consciously she's like, "No, I'm I am being warm. I
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am being friendly. At least I really thought I was." But the reality was she had told me, "No, yeah, you know, if he messages and I'm in a mood or whatever, you know, then I won't message him back straight
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away. I'll make him wait a couple of hours and stuff, you know?" She wants him to notice the change.
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By delaying her responses, she's trying to communicate to him like, "Listen, you you don't treat me like I don't matter.
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You can't treat me like I am disposable." But, she never actually made it clear to him. So, I said to her, "Okay, you know, you're talking about inconsistency. You're saying that he's playing these games with communication, but what are you doing when you are
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deliberately delaying your responses in order to punish him?" And of course, she was a bit silent there.
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I carried on prodding her, and what comes to the surface is of course now this admission. Now, she recognizes the behavior and what's happening. She recognizes the pattern for what it is.
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She starts to see it as, "Okay, well, you know what? The real fear is of course if I initiate, then it means that I'm chasing.
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You know, I don't want to be chasing. I don't want to seem desperate and stuff, you know? Now, I get this because a lot of people have the same issue. Many of you are watching like typical dating coaches say, we all fall into it with
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the dating advice, right? How many of you have heard this? Dating advice has got us all playing these impossible games of play it cool, don't respond straight away, you know, mirror them. If they take 2 hours, you take 2 hours. She
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wanted open communication with this guy, and she's making him pass this invisible test every time. And then she's accusing him of putting her on some sort of girlfriend probation, whilst the whole time he's on trial as well.
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Now, does that mean that every single communication gap is her fault? No, it's not her fault. He's, you know, he's an individual. He's responsible for his communication, and if he's being inconsistent, of course. But, the inconsistency was not one-sided. It
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was just that her inconsistency, and this is what you guys do. Or this is what we all do. Yeah.
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We'll justify what we're doing. Okay? Her when she's being inconsistent, it's a more respectable thing. It's I'm protecting my energy. It's what she said. It's like I'm protecting my energy. I just I I had that's a you know, I just I I just had a chat with
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her earlier today. So, and I was looking through through her notes. Essentially, she's labeling it like that. Like, yeah, I'm protecting my energy. I'm doing right by me. But, when he does it, it's just like some mind game right?
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Then, of course, there's the love bombing of the flowers and the compliments and his enthusiasm, which then transitioned to this hot and cold and this distance. And so, she's judging that as a form of manipulation.
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So, again, because I had heard the whole story and I could hear the code beneath what was going on, I had to shine the mirror back on her and be like, "Listen, you were suspicious of his loving gestures from the beginning. You've
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evidently displayed that to me. And that means that you would have met all of his um loving gestures with Well, what do you do when you're suspicious of someone, right? You're not going to be like, 'Give me the love. I'll accept it.'
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Like, no. You're going to be like, "Hm." You're going to be pulling some faces.
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You're going to be a bit aloof. You're going to have your guards up. You're not going to realize you're doing it, okay?
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It's all subconsciously coming from the state. And so, you're not going to be reciprocating as much. And then, what happens to the person on the other side who is experiencing their affection being treated as evidence against them?
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Well, they're going to become more aloof themselves. They're going to become more careful. They're going to take a step back, be less spontaneous, and perhaps slowly start to withdraw.
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You know, she says she wanted affection, but every time affection arrives for her, it's got a hidden agenda. And on one occasion, I tell And this is what I mean about the joy of letting people just speak so that the subconscious mind
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can just give me all the juice. She had basically said that there was a time like he wanted to come over to watch a movie and she declined because evidently she was feeling like hurt at the time of the situation and everything
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and she's just, you know, wanting some proof that he cares. So she's like she declined his offer because she wanted to see if he would insist insist to make these things better, insist to make the effort but shock horror
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such a terrible terrible person because he actually he accepted her answer. He accepted. He didn't insist on coming over. She said no and he accepted it.
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And then that was just awful for her because she she took that act of respect but she read it as proof that he doesn't care enough.
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So I had to call her out and I was saying, "Listen, honey, you know, you have labeled him all of the psychological labels that you could ever name someone [snorts] because he's not essentially choosing you.
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But who is the real avoidant here? Who's the one who's becoming difficult to reach?
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Who's the one with the walls up? And she was shocked as many of my clients are when I change their state and I break their story down and I get them to see what they couldn't see before. They're
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always in a sense of shock. That's when I know that they've shifted. Even her friends couldn't see it evidently.
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Well, I said to her, "Look, you're saying that you're not chosen Well, you're saying that you're not chosen by a guy who approached you in a crowded room of people is giving you regular communication, regular dates, introducing you to his
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family. He's been really warm and caring and you know, he's showing commitment in this way. How much proof would be enough for you for this identity that is actually determined to remain temporarily unchosen cuz that's her identity. That's
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her assumption. She's only like a temporary temporarily temporarily chosen, right? So, how can he compete with that? He has to perform the task.
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He has to eventually pull away cuz she's not going to let him in. There's no way for this relationship to grow. Do you understand how this works? So, this is why I tell you guys don't wait on the 3D to give you the
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evidence of who you are. You must decide who you are right now because 3D whether there's evidence or not, as you can see, it doesn't matter.
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I've had clients who are practically successes come to me and they absolutely do not see the very thing like it's staring them in their face. They cannot see it. They cannot let it in because of their assumption. So,
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whether 3D evidence is there or not, regardless, it actually doesn't matter cuz even when it's there, you will not see it. So, you may as well just occupy the state. Who do you want to be now?
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What assumptions does this version of you have? There's so much more depth to this.
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Um and once we once we had done this kind of work as well, you see what a lot of you are doing, what I've noticed, is that people are intellectualizing this law.
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Yeah, I know you guys get the mechanics. I know you guys get how to do the techniques. I know you understand the concepts. Everyone is you pushed out and living in the end and the wish fulfilled.
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You understand what it is to change states logically intellectually. Listing the evidence and that, yes, that's great, but it's not going to rewrite the subconscious on its own.
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After I've done a hot seat with people, you must have a somatic level to it as well. It's probably why for some of the coaches watching, it's probably why it's been backfiring on you if it has.
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So, with Rihanna, I had to guide her through this targeted imaginal process. Just conversationally, it's not like it was a hypnosis or anything like that.
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It's just a conversational, very light, very quick, just to train her nervous system to actually tolerate the feeling of being safe, the feeling of being chosen. That is what changes things. And for you guys who are at home doing this,
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you know, I've got hypnosis on my channel to help you with that, to help you kind of get into the state.
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Um to occupy that state of being, my I am hypnosis might be quite useful in this occasion.
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So, after this, she begins to see it very clearly. And in that moment, we have given her her power back. So, regardless of the situation, regardless of the breakup, regardless of everything that was said and done before, regardless of the time that is currently
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passing where she's got no communication with him, no contact, she's fine. Because now she's got this deep somatic acceptance that she is chosen for long-term love, and that her new assumptions that we created are actually her truth, her fact. Now, you
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want to hear the really cool bit? This is just so, so cool. As you guys might remember, in the beginning of the story, it's quite a few cool bits to share with you now, actually. So, um in the beginning of the story, you
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know, I was saying to you how she was really struggling to imagine. And like I say, all of you have this gift. Even those of you who um talk about aphantasia and stuff like that, you can still imagine.
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Uh by the way, if you are really struggling to imagine, that Neville app that Joseph has created that so many of you using and getting amazing results with, thank you all for your feedback, that Neville app, Neville the Neville button there, he will guide
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you through your sats. He'll guide you through Neville's teachings. He'll keep you accountable. He's still messaging me cuz I've been too busy.
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I've been too busy to use him. He's like, "What did he say? I nearly sent out a search party for you, Athena." [laughter] Yeah, so got a sense of humor. I've got to hand it to Joseph. And Joseph is as I
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say, he's putting the bill so that a free um a free version of this app and this bot is available. We had like he checked there was like 50-something thousand messages sent to the Neville bot, right?
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It's 50-something thousand, right? So, he's he's made it he's made a free version available for you guys, okay? Let Neville guide you through your sats.
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There's no reason why any of you should struggle to embody the state of your wish fulfilled, right? He's going to help you through your imaginal acts.
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Now, in Rihanna's case, as we've said, she doesn't lack imagination. Everyone can imagine. Use your inner voice if you can't use your vision. Use your taste, touch, smell, feeling.
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The reason why she couldn't imagine, and I would assume it's a very common problem for many of you, is because as I say, she's trying to enter a scene that contradicted everything that her body believed was safe. Remember, the reason
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imaginal acts are actually the most powerful uh tool in relation to manifesting your dreams, the most powerful tool for embodiment used by famous people, athletes. You just have to look look them up and they talk about it. I envisioned this, I could see this,
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I imagined this. They all imagined it. Now, for her, like I say, the struggle she couldn't get into it because her assumptions were going against it.
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Now that we have worked through those assumptions and she's embodied the new assumptions as truth, she could enter that scene without this desperation of trying to get something. She could be totally immersed in having an experience. And we put her into that
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scene so easily. So easily because she was not overpowered by fear anymore and I guided her through this scene. You know, we we picked a familiar lovely location. We picked an emotional exchange and a few words that essentially summarize the identity that
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we had uncovered. And during this exercise I carried on as I normally do. I talk to people in such a way. You guys have worked with me, you know. I will drill things into you. I will repeat things. I
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will say things in different ways. You don't know that you're being reprogrammed. That's the whole point of it and I One of the things I was apparently drilling into her that obviously stuck with her was Rihanna, listen, you don't
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see it, do you? Cuz like I said, there was a lot more to the story that I'm not able to share.
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But I said, you do not see it. You are this man's world. Literally, you are this man's world. And that stuck with her and her mind held onto it and you're going to see something remarkable now.
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She accepted it and she dropped it. I think that literally she said to me, she took that scene home with her. She revisited it maybe just a couple of times and she left it alone. That was it.
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No more techniques, no nothing. I think within a month she then gets invited to a friend's birthday. Now, she had no intention to go.
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But another mate of hers was going through a really, really hard time. She desperately wanted Rihanna to come. She also wanted Rihanna to give her a ride.
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So, Rihanna being the lovely, decent person that she is she doesn't turn her friend down. She goes to the bar and guess who's there?
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A specific person. Now, they haven't seen or spoken to each other for almost 2 years at this point, roughly.
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Eventually, after the awkwardness, he does approach her. They have what starts off as an awkward exchange, but there's absolutely no hostility because at this point through the new assumptions, the new version of Rihanna that showed up at that bar,
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she's dropped seeing him through any toxic labels. She's totally occupied her state of being chosen.
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Um she was able as a result of that to read him with more openness and compassion and, you know, she's there laughing and whatnot. And she's just in her energy. She actually then invites him for a coffee. And they start to
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communicate quite regularly after that. Now, they've been dating for a while now and she told me that since they've been together, she's found out some really interesting things.
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She's actually found out that her SP was dreaming about her during the time that she was imagining him. And get this as well.
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They talked a lot. And during their conversation, she had found out This is And this brings me back to what I said in the beginning of the video.
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She finds out that the whole time when they were dating, he was always afraid how he was going to fit into her world because she's really successful. Like I said, she's swimming in this financial independence. Her career is skyrocketing. She's extremely
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independent. She's a tough cookie. And he just felt as though, you know, he wasn't going to be able to fit in in any way. That he was constantly letting her down. That she was preparing not to choose him. And so,
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he took a step back in self-protection. He was hesitant in self-protection. So, there you have it. You've got Rihanna on one side going, you know, 8 months, why isn't he choosing me for commitment? Um whilst he's spending the last 8 months
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wondering why she had never fully chosen him. And do you guys remember as well that I said to you about what I'd said in the session when I was drilling it into her, listen, you're this man's world." As we did her imaginal scene,
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she absorbed She absorbed that. And this scene, right? Not that long ago, her imaginal scene actually played out.
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So, what's incredible is that your imaginal scene will always be reflected, but what I have found personally is that it doesn't always mirror exactly. I've had it before where it has, but I've had it in other ways where it's not been exacting.
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It's always about what the scene implies, right? So, she she said that they go on this like gorgeous romantic uh holiday together. The setting, by the way, was by the beach. Okay, so there they are by the beach, and they're
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talking about their past, and they're talking about the relationship and their love. And he says to her And I got goosebumps as I'm about to say it, cuz I'm I'm still kind of like, "What the hell?" He said to her, "How could you not see
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that you are my world?" This is To be fair, this is not the first time this has happened. Um there's some really cool imaginal scenes uh that I done with people. Again, it was more as a demonstration, but I think the lack of
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resistance and pressure and stuff just impressed something in them, and then it got reflected. So, in her case, he's actually saying, you know, "How can you not see that you are my world?" I mean, I was actually shocked. I was just so,
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so shocked. So, she's in shock. She's in awe. Evidently, things are going fantastic with them. Thank you so much, darling, for allowing me to share this story, cuz it was really just awesome to share. For those of you who are
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wondering, actually, why is it that her imaginal act had this sort of power where he's going to reflect back the same words, essentially, and that he even dreams of her as well.
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So, I just wanted to kind of bring it, cuz she asked the question, too, and I thought maybe you guys might want to know.
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We're obviously looking at the law of assumption and non-duality. So, in non-duality, there's only one subconscious mind, one God, one source, one universe, right? Uni, one. Voice, verse.
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There's only one, but being experienced through different bodies. That's why we say separation is actually just an illusion of the the 3D physical reality.
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So, when you fully assume, as she did, this state of being chosen, particularly in his world, that's who she is in his world. She's chosen in his world.
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You're kind of like uploading this new identity, this new um assumption into this shared collective network, whatever you want to call it.
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So, yes, you will affect them. That's why they will have thoughts about you, dreams about you. Think of it with dreams, as well, don't forget. That logical brain, with all of its resistance, you know, it's it's asleep, right? It's
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not holding anything back. When you fall asleep, logical brain turns off. His conscious defenses calm down.
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Subconscious mind is completely open. It's exposed to the new reality, and it just experiences it as some vivid dream, vivid truth. Some of you have actually been emailing me with your dreams about me.
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I always say, as long as I'm behaving in them. But, there've been some amazing symbolic dreams you guys are having. So, anyway, how cool is that? Keep us posted, darling, as well, on your success, cuz I love to know how things progress. I love
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to know when people get married, as well, and engaged, and all of that stuff. And thank you all for joining me, cuz evidently her success is your success, too. So, now, go, be inspired.
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We love you. If you need my personal support, just email me, uh athenaravencoach.com. Or, join our Discord community, cuz I'm going to be doing that group hypnosis with the inner circle this week. Our live sessions have been changing a lot
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of lives and sometimes because there's quite a few people in there with their successes now and some that I've already shared on this channel, might be good to talk to them too and to learn from each other. But, I love you
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guys. Thank you so much for joining and I'll see you all in the next video.
Topics:manifestationrelationship healingno contactspecific personimaginal sceneemotional assumptionsidentity changeAthena RavenThe Deep Codelove and separation
