Pure Presence with Ananta

Ananta shares her profound experience of freedom and consciousness during imprisonment in a Japanese prison, exploring presence beyond physical and mental suffering.

Key Takeaways

True freedom can be realized internally even in extreme external conditions.
Awareness and presence transcend physical pain and mental suffering.
Identities and roles are constructs that dissolve in pure consciousness.
Spiritual awakening can occur in unexpected and harsh environments.
The mind struggles to understand pure presence, which is beyond logical grasp.

What the video covers

Ananta recounts her experience of recognizing freedom while imprisoned in a Japanese prison under harsh conditions.
She describes the intense physical and mental challenges, including forced silence and exhaustion.
Despite the suffering, she experienced a spiritual awakening and deep presence beyond pain and identity.
Ananta explains how awareness grew stronger, allowing her to witness her own mental and emotional states without attachment.
She highlights the dissolution of roles and identities, revealing pure consciousness and bliss.
The experience included moments of lucid dreaming and a profound sense of love and connection to all beings.
She discusses the difficulty of relating this experience to conventional ideas of enlightenment.
The video emphasizes the contrast between external suffering and internal freedom.
Ananta encourages dropping into and through one's experience to access deeper awareness.
The narrative explores the ongoing process of awareness coming and going, and the challenge of the mind to grasp this state.

Chapters

What was Ananta's experience in the Japanese prison?

Ananta endured three years of forced silence and harsh physical conditions in a Japanese prison, during which she experienced profound spiritual awakening and recognized her inner freedom despite external suffering.

How did Ananta describe the process of awareness during imprisonment?

She described awareness as growing stronger and more intense, allowing her to witness both guards and prisoners without attachment, and to drop into her experience beyond pain and mental drama.

What does Ananta say about the mind's role in understanding presence?

Ananta explains that the mind tries to grasp presence logically but cannot fully comprehend it, as pure awareness is beyond mental concepts and identities.

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I don't even like to introduce the show because it creates a separation from the world that we're talking about. But what you were saying before was, um, you just had a moment. You said, "What?" So you were saying before the camera went on about your experience of recognizing something.

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went on about your experience of recognizing something I recognized I was free you recognized you were free I knew I was free yeah um are you asking me about yeah you were free from what okay I was in prison right right an was an

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I recognized I was free.

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situation that I was in was everything I didn't want right so there was there we were were working in a factory every day so there was a lot of physical the body was really pushed to its limits oh in many ways uhhuh and so

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You recognized you were free.

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many more days yeah I mean so it was the whole system was like at an extreme and I would say after about one year or so of believing myself to be a victim uh-huh Yeah well yeah that's how most

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I knew I was free.

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factory mhm we were not allowed to lean back against the wall or to lay down wow we had to sit you did why I mean it's cuz they because that's the rules uhhuh you couldn't lean back so you couldn't lean against the

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Yeah. Um, are you asking me about—

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to talk or to make one wrong move and there was the intensity of awareness of the prisoners waiting for a moment to make the move you were aware of both the guards and the prisoners or you absolutely awareness is aware of both

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Yeah, you were free from what?

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stronger and stronger uhhuh because if you don't relate if you don't have any relationship all the roles Fall Away you're no longer a female if there's no male mhm you're no longer anything you're no longer anything there's no

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Okay, I was in prison.

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playing some roles well well like so there's no relating happening so there's only that yeah and um that was getting stronger every day and then uh one one night I remember MH we were allowed to lay back at 700 p.m. they were being

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Right.

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started falling it was the the experience of real like all the the weight of the body everything I always do this when I'm sharing I always say drop into and through your experience because this is what happened in that moment was that

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And was an—

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drama of the moment no more no you were aware of it but you weren't I was experiencing in it but just falling through the body pain falling falling falling falling like now I always say the mind is moving

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She had an experience in a Japanese prison where she had to be really silent for three years.

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there was I mean when I start speaking about this I feel like I'm you know it's not about a spiritual experience this realization but in that moment was a spiritual experience what was exactly what everything opened up as light you

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Yeah, about silence was about two and a half years. And it was torture. Or I mean, I wasn't being tortured, but the situation that I was in was everything I didn't want.

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like I dropped into my experience and Consciousness opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened and I knew that I was free and in in my interpretation of my mind when the Mind came back was that I

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Right. So there we were working in a factory every day, so there was a lot of physical— the body was really pushed to its limits.

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the same moment there was like what's this yeah and I just kept letting letting go kept happening into that and there was the experience of of all through the body a kind a bliss no pain and so it was like I'd

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Oh, in many ways.

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to there was the the the recognition of a beautiful sunrising this amazing moment and the joke of these uniforms and the joke of the guards screaming there was a smile inside that I knew that nothing could touch nothing could

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Uhhuh. And so there was an extreme physical pain going on, and of course a mental pain because you were in prison resisting the experience always, every moment wanting a different experience. The mind was going nuts, always looking at the calendar, counting the days, trying to work out how many more days.

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of the the cell were no longer a boundary and from that day on started like um oh every day every day was uh an opening yes and it was as as if there was like um in my chest

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Yeah. I mean, so the whole system was like at an extreme, and I would say after about one year or so of believing myself to be a victim—

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there and it was like I was everybody in the planet I was love for everybody in the planet for the gods for the every prisoner for every every love was just exploding and each day realizations were happen were coming through this was like

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Uh-huh.

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which many people go through when they open up as that uhhuh as pure Consciousness or whatever you want to call it in a way is yeah I was experiencing myself as that and the experience of me was happening in

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Yeah.

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going on there was the beauty of uh existence yes yes and it was pouring in day after day after day Revelation it was just pouring in and this went on for months and months and of course I had the Great

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Well, yeah, that's how most people would feel.

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you're having the other thing you were having this other still there was the belief that they don't tell you the date when you're going to get out it's a complete shock oh I see but you knew in there for

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Yeah. And wanting to die.

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were released at somewhere along yeah two something years in prison you had this they let you out what was disappointing cuz it wouldn't matter because I was having this great experience of existence the miracle itself was happening here uhuh and all I

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Mhm.

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able to witness this all of it all of it I saw the the identity reform itself roles start to appear again you saw it but you didn't buy into it I knew it wasn't me uhhuh I knew it wasn't true

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Because it was just awful.

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I couldn't relate the experience I was having to what Osho was speaking of as that you couldn't relate it to anything you no it didn't look like anything it didn't it didn't um what I understood of Enlightenment I didn't

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Yeah. And physical, complete physical exhaustion. I wasn't sleeping at night. I would just go into lucid dreaming. There was not much sleep happening. And, um, at the end of each day after the factory—

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what did you have along with all those things though you had anger but you had this other thing I knew I I knew that um all those things arising were were nothing to were not anything to do with

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Mhm.

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you really are that's where you're coming from that I am that and I guess I must be that too absolutely but yeah I am still still caught in my well drama I suppose and you see that you see the

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We were not allowed to lean back against the wall or to lay down.

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now the part that sees that yeah right and does this come and go yeah comes and goes the part that sees it come to well I'm not aware of it when it goes I'm aware when it's here but it it seems to

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Wow.

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this in that in the awareness state so when it goes and I get pulled in yeah then I'm not aware and it's when I'm coming out of it and I can see oh yeah that was another that's what I feel comes in goes

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We had to sit.

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saying okay In This Moment yeah right mhm can you in this moment you are aware of the empty space in this room uh the empty in in between these two bodies yeah there's there's it appears like there's an empty space in

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You did?

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these bodies mhm is it ever not here no it's here right even if you completely forget about it right okay I get it the thinking process is moving and you jump on that right that still happening in yes this that never moves right right

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Why?

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is also there but you you're using the thinking to say I guess and logically but In This Moment In This Moment my where do I end I can't see where I end right is there an ending of you in the

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I mean, it's 'cause that's the rules.

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and the if you can just it's so so easy and so simple that's why it's so difficult because because the mind is used to it's like the Mind tries to get it and the mind cannot get it it's a

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Uhhuh.

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This Moment as we meet we meet here yeah and you you take a look without using any thinking you take a look where do you end and I begin yeah there is no there is no you cannot find a place where you end no so

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You couldn't lean back, so you couldn't lean against the wall except when you knew that they weren't looking.

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Emptiness is the thing that never ends is that I mean are you no I'm trying to I mean it's just a level a moment of realization about that yes and then I'm thinking about it yes so you move you

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Right.

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so stay with it and um because I I am getting what you're making me aware of mhm this you know I identify it as me but I can't say it's me the awareness because that seems it's much bigger than

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So the awareness— this was the interesting part, actually— was that there was a game of awareness with awareness with itself. There was the awareness of all the guards trying to catch the prisoners to talk or to make one wrong move, and there was the intensity of awareness of the prisoners waiting for a moment to make the move.

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thank you no I I appreciate that so where do I when when you look at me because when I look away I get the sense of of just going a world yeah and I got the sense of my isolated self but

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You were aware of both the guards and the prisoners?

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when I look at you and when I make I I can't find the quality of me necessar it's something is speaking yes but that might be me but it might it's not just me okay now there's some there's

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Oh, absolutely. Awareness is aware of both.

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yeah is that this yeah is that this this is this aware right now I think it is aware isn't it it is don't think I it's aware it's aware it's aware yes always go to the thinking thing because anyway you

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Right.

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this moment just try to get rid of that can you get rid of that lose it get rid rid of awareness yeah just get rid of it lose it is it possible I don't think so only if I shut it off or go if I start

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And so there's this intensity of awareness where you're waiting for every moment to quickly speak or lean against the wall or so. It's really an intensity. And this was getting stronger and stronger and stronger, and awareness was getting stronger and stronger.

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you're not doing that and you can't stop it okay right right right yeah yeah yeah so take it a look right now without thinking about it at all because you you absolutely do not need a thought mhm to

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Uhhuh.

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the body or out of the body it doesn't seem to be in the body it seems to the bodies in it yes yes and yet must be also also in the body if you can experience sensation I I guess but it's much bigger than the

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Because if you don't relate, if you don't have any relationship, all the roles fall away. You're no longer a female if there's no male.

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aware presence of being that you're doing nothing for for it to be here right mhm right you're doing nothing for that it simply just is you can't get rid of it okay yeah how far away from you is

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Mhm.

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mean I don't know what me is I'm don't have a sense of me at all in the awareness right exactly this is the whole point the only thing that has a sense of me is a label a role an identification

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You're no longer anything. You're no longer anything. There's no role to play.

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cannot find a me mhm so then in this moment what is the difference between this that is aware and you is there any difference right now I don't know what me is so I don't know if there is a

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Right.

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as you're you see if you if you can look there there's there's this that is knowing itself yes and then there's the idea of getting getting something getting it well from for this whatever it's there's this and then there's the what else

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So then what is left?

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yeah no I I totally get that and live that and I see a role that I choose to play separate from that but this can stay this is never lost no matter what happens this is not growing older the body's growing older but this

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Mhm.

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itself it doesn't have birthdays I do live in this state at points and then something happens life happens this has seen every moment of your life right this has seen it all nothing has been hidden from this this has seen it all it's seen all

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When there's no role to play, what was left?

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once we' have seen this that this this is what I am I'm not all that story this is what I am then all the story needs to come everything needs to come it needs to come it it it needs to come to be

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Just awareness.

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don't I ignore it I don't what did you say value it that's what you said so that was a big you value this awareness it's simple isn't it absolutely so simple it's so simple it's just awareness yeah just pure awareness absolutely and

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You said, "What is left? There's no role to play."

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I don't know what it is but we're but you but I am it I'm it and part of it and and and and we are connecting in it yes this is never hurt you know you will have I have the

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I guess it is just kind— I don't know. I'm still playing some roles.

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out absolutely absolutely it all plays and you act it out as well or um H it's like um I would say that it comes to be seen by that and in the seeing there's a clarification it's like it's just just a

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Well, like, so there's no relating happening, so there's only that.

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Sease and the more that comes into Consciousness the more the the lights are on it's like walking into a room with the lights on everything is being seen so it does doesn't take you and it's a it's an ongoing momentto

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Yeah. And, um, that was getting stronger every day. And then, uh, one night I remember—

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triggering of those how okay if if it's like um a trigger of let's say anger or irritation or whatever I will just um stop and experience the sensation moving through the body as a sensation without being me who is angry because so you

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Mhm.

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when it was in the beginning because in the beginning there was a complete uh acting out and like it was like there was this recognition and then the whole play of Personality separate and now now it's more all

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We were allowed to lay back at 7:00 p.m.

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recognize some you're helping me to see awareness what do you recognize I recognize it's always been there yes and I've always known that it's always been there yes but I haven't acknowledged what I've always exactly exactly may go back out into the

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They were being nice.

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life I don't know I don't I don't I don't know I don't I mean in this awareness cuz you've help me it doesn't seem like I I don't know I if you were going to die next week what would be I

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Night?

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strongest desire and the most important thing that is what you're going to live you know whatever that's where your attention goes to our most important thing to the thing that calls your attention most and so how do we get

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No, every night at 7:00 p.m. we could then lay back.

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thing that is the most um love of my life is to be always in in truth mhm to be always living in in alignment with what is truly truly just feels true mhm yeah that's the most important thing for me MH like I I I

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Oh, I see.

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this awareness to people it looks like that yeah it's it's simple in a way it's so simple it it's my passion because because it's so simple and it's so immediate and then comes what follows after a recognition is all the mind's

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Okay. And this evening at 7 p.m., I laid back and I put these big covers over the top of me, and I just started falling. It was the experience of real, like, all the weight of the body, everything.

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these groups are here for um clearing up Liber you GA groups that then help each other reflect the the groups are like I always um usually ask to do an individual session with each each one and get a clear stopping off the mind

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I always do this when I'm sharing. I always say drop into and through your experience because this is what happened in that moment, was that the extreme pain of the body, the moment I started to relax, I could feel that pain, and I just was like I was falling into the pain and through the pain, the pain, and the pain was no longer the drama of the moment.

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would do that with me yes absolutely absolutely yeah I'd love to so little process that make the state well it makes a very clear stopping of the mind and a clear seeing because also a lot of words come that that clear some things

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No more?

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one and um each one can see that what happens there happens here what happens there happens here it's all the same story it is it's all the same illusion it's all the same mind it's all the same one and sometimes it's easier to see it

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No. You were aware of it, but you weren't— I was experiencing in it but just falling through the body pain, falling, falling, falling, falling.

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space always well you are already yeah yeah I get that you can't get out of it but to to wake up in in this moment to moment to moment requires that you that this is the the the the most important

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Like now I always say the mind is moving like that for through the layer.

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so meditation all that's an avoidance in the sense of what is just here uh I would say that um it gives a great ground it does meditation definitely people when I meet people who've been meditating if they haven't got identified with the

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And then it was like I was falling forever and ever and ever, and then a moment came where it just opened up, and yeah, everything just opened up. Everything opened, everything opened, and there was— I mean, when I start speaking about this, I feel like I'm, you know, it's not about a spiritual experience, this realization, but in that moment was a spiritual experience.

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witness right that's the sense I get that meditation so if the mind is trying to become this it's impossible but um meditation is not uh out of place well just it's sitting with the awareness that's what get it's

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What was exactly?

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like being willing to experience every moment fully and what part of you can say yes to that I guess all of it has to I have to say yes to it yeah there's one part of you that can say yes one part can say

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What everything opened up as light.

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is nobody to make a choice it's only this so This plays and creates that in for the play for it doesn't matter really if we want to talk like that we can say yeah we can say many things it doesn't matter that's

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You saw that as light?

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gangaji ah when I came back from Japan and I started hearing this is what's happening here but still it wasn't a complete clarification still I was what people say to me now in and out out of that realization mhm then I came

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As light. Everything was light. Everything was just full of, um— you can call it bliss, but that's not the experience of— you mean the prison, the guards, the prisoners, everything.

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and it stayed with you this is it this is it and you knew you had it then I knew that this was what had [Music] been it was the the the realization of the realization of the realization it's like no no way

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Everything was gone. I was just— it was like I dropped into my experience, and consciousness opened, opened, opened, opened, opened, opened, opened, opened, opened, opened, and I knew that I was free.

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remembering or bringing that or valuing it or doing something that I nor than I normally usually do with this sometimes I say that you need to fall in love with this yes this is the Beloved this is the Beloved it's so

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And in my interpretation of my mind, when the mind came back, was that I now found a place where I could go.

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what is it ananta satsang an.com how do you spell ananta a n n a n t a n a n t I'm not very good at no don't worry websites it's not very you know as we disengage I find myself coming back into

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So your mind was gone, and you were floating in bliss there for—

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doesn't go anywhere it's all at the same time it's this that is playing out as me there not something else this was the the the biggest shock for my mind later was that oh my God it's me me who has been searching for

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It was only that. I wasn't floating in it. It only— it was— no, you only that.

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personality here it's playing as that and it's just playing as Alan here mhm as vorn as Miranda it's playing itself through form there's nothing else yeah it's good isn't it yes do you get that did yes it's amazing

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And so when the mind started at the same moment, there was like, "What's this?"

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this awareness of of awareness MH all the time you are in love with it that's why you're interviewing people that's why I guess I am that's why you're interviewing people this because you you you're drawn to this you're in love with

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Yeah.

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the that awareness they become there only is one one being and that's just awareness yes this is the true meeting much better than drugs yeah it's much higher than drugs isn't it yes yes when you you don't come down you when

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And I just kept letting, letting go, kept happening into that, and there was the experience of all through the body a kind of bliss, no pain.

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and mind and spirit this is the nourishment it is but it it it's not immediately addictive it hasn't immediately the love Until you realize that until you taste it more and more and then you don't settle for less you

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And so it was like I'd found a place where I could go.

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that it's time for Simplicity it's nothing more than just awareness awareness of awar that's and then even to say just awareness I mean it's it's it's it's the miracle that is playing this whole play thanks thank you I've enjoyed very

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So every day I started dropping every day after work.

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you do yes but it it depends uh on on the openness right how and I am familiar with session thank you yeah it's a nice to to be exping than

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