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Part two. Yes, part two. Yes, we are returning to this now. Well, let me start.
Part two of a personal account of a difficult year: the disorganized preparation for a Paris concert, a chaotic apartment move, and the breakdown of a relationship.
Key Takeaways
- The speaker portrays the concert preparations as overwhelming due to shared logistical and team management failures.
- The speaker frames the breakdown of the marriage as the result of chronic stress, mood volatility, and unequal division of labor.
- The speaker presents themselves as having attempted to resolve conflict privately before public disclosures occurred.
What the video covers
- The speaker recounts preparing for a first Paris concert that they organized themselves, without promoters, while also handling a forced apartment move 20 days before the event.
- The speaker says their partner Andrey skipped the moving day for a graduation, leaving the speaker and assistant Lera to move everything alone.
- Team members reportedly struggled with Andrey's conflicting instructions on video shoots, costumes, and dance numbers, and the team eventually asked that he be removed from organizational duties.
- The speaker describes Andrey's morning mood swings and sudden outbursts, and says the speaker stopped doing household cooking and daily care due to lack of time.
- Sleep schedule differences and constant filming and editing for YouTube are described as adding strain to the relationship.
- At the concert, the speaker describes a lack of acknowledgment from Andrey, including total darkness on stage and no hug before performing.
- The speaker says they were initially hopeful that counseling and distance would improve the relationship, but describes the separation as ultimately final.
- The divorce is described as having been processed very quickly, within about three weeks.
- The speaker says Andrey gave an interview with his own account, which the speaker felt violated a prior agreement to settle matters privately.
- The speaker expresses frustration with public commentary and says they plan to avoid social media during the period of online discussion.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and recap of part one
- 03:50Concert preparation and apartment move
- 11:00Team conflicts and organizational difficulties
- 18:00Relationship strain and daily life
- 25:20The Paris concert itself
- 40:00Separation, counseling, and divorce
- 55:00Public interviews and disputed accounts
- 71:40Closing remarks and social media
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This year. Go ahead. Yes, we are returning to this year. And I suppose where we left off was the concert.
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Yes, the first Paris concert. Please, tell me what happened, well, maybe before the concert and what happened at the concert. Well, because I know, yes.
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Well, before the concert, of course, we had a very hard, a very difficult period , because it was all a first for us.
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We didn't have any promoters, we organized it all ourselves. Mhm. Uh, well, me, Andrey, and Lera, my assistant at the time.
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And plus everything else, like, well, we started looking for teams, we started looking for dancers, lighting...uh, someone here, the flow helped with something here, yes. We realized right away that we had, uh, very little time, and plus we had a
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domestic issue arise, that we had to move out of our apartment. Mhm. Out of our place. And in parallel, all of this layered on top of me looking for apartments in a state of absolute horror . I see,
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this prep-Yes, I remember that, it just took so much time and nerves from me.
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And at the last moment, we made an arrangement with Nadya's help. Nadya, thank you so much. And we found this apartment.
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And on moving day, when we had our moving day, yes, Andrey didn't even show up for the move , like, he woke up and said: "Oh, it just so happened. I have my graduation for that info-course cohort of mine."
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It was April 30th, and Lera and I were the two of us hauling all those boxes and stuff everywhere. He just didn't come.
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Well, he left the house in the morning and said: "Well, finish packing my things too and so on." Just, what is moving? Just look at how many things we have and so on. Yes, moving is the worst.
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I I just thought I was going to lose my mind there. It's true. This was 20 days before the concert, where I needed to think about all the other things.
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My deadlines were burning for all the musical parts, for the lighting, for all those screens, dancers, rehearsals.
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And we were also, you know, packing up here. Lera comes here from Dresden specifically. And we moved all of it without him because he went to his graduation, because it turns out it had been planned for a month already.
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The fact that we knew three months in advance that we had to move out on the thirtieth, well, he somehow just forgot the schedule.
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And by the way, I should probably say that this is Andrei in a nutshell, meaning when it came to everyday chores or any kind of organization, he did absolutely nothing.
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He says things in interviews, like I’m complaining about him, but it’s the truth. I mean, the guy did nothing at all.
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And yet, in that interview, he says that I’m the disabled one. Although I can’t say I’m some kind of super organizer when it comes to the house, daily life, and so on.
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But I don’t think I’m as disabled as Andrei in that regard. I mean, I at least have some minimal skills, you know ?
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That’s true. That’s true. Well, he did laundry, he did, laundry. Well, yeah. And if someone happened to wash something the wrong way, that was it, he was ready to explode.
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But did he at least run the dishwasher, or didn't he know how? Well, he didn't always remember to do that, yeah. No, he would run it, he did run it. No, actually, over the last year he has become, I have to give him credit
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, he has gotten better. Yeah. I mean, he really did take over some things. And I really do praise him for that. Yeah.
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It was about time, at 45 years old, it was about time. He was 43, yeah. Well, yeah, it was time, really.
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But you know, I think I know why that happened. He wanted to a little bit. I just had so little time that I didn't, so I just stopped doing it anymore. I mean, at some point I just said: "I
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can't do this anymore. I don't have the time. I can't take care of you like I used to , cook every day, and so on." Yeah.
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And he got angry, I remember, he got angry, he would throw pieces of meat at me and so on, because I wasn't cooking for him. Kore was a witness back then. Well, yeah. It doesn't matter. In any case, he wasn't there for the move.
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He came over after the move was done. I remember that Lera and I were just lying there, dead tired. Seryozha came by in the evening; he helped us out here too.
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And he says, "Oh man, Seryozha, you have no idea how tired I am today, people drain me so much." He tells me, "Yeah, I mean, I'm here, we're hauling all this stuff, half of it got lost on the street, some of it broke
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." It was just some kind of nightmare, yeah . Well, that was before the concert, yes.
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And in the end, we put together a team; Seryozha showed up, Matvey showed up.
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Lera, a friend of ours who's a costume designer, also appeared. Well, we already had some kind of core group.
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You also had your own numbers being built separately on your side. Right. Since the entire organization of the concert was on us, it was tough.
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It was hard, wasn't it? Yes. And we kept trying to get Andrey to do something, somehow get him to give him some kind of task, some assignment. I said, "Andrey, since you're our camera operator, can you handle organizing the video shoot, okay
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?" And he calls the cameraman, then hands me the phone: "Seryozha, tell him what needs to be done." He couldn't decide whether we needed seven cameras, eight cameras, or six. So , he couldn't make that decision? No.
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Yes. And then he would take it upon himself to give them some unclear information, and then people would start calling me, saying, "He said this and that." And it was like that for everything, including dresses for musicians and
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dancers. He also changed the dances several times because of who wanted to be in the number and who didn't.
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And finally, about two weeks before, I think, the whole team came to me, all the guys, and said, "We can't work with him anymore. It's just impossible." So I went to Andrey and said, "Andrey, please , the best thing you can do right now is
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just stay out of it, because you're just getting in everyone's way. You give everyone conflicting information, you start doing different things and then drop them halfway through, you don't answer people for weeks, and they think we don't need
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anything. When, in fact, we need it urgently." Uh , and yes, at the concert, like, we relieved him of those duties because, well, it was, you know, impossible.
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Yeah, we probably already had a really bad relationship because I wasn't getting enough sleep, and he was constantly whining about everything.
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Everything was wrong, nothing was right , you're being cheated here, but he wasn't doing anything himself. Meaning, everything was directed at me.
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I remember, you know, excuse me for interrupting, but you kept telling me that the most difficult thing for you was in the morning, right? Because he had mood swings in the morning. I mean, he wakes up in the
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morning, and you don't know what to expect from him. He might be sweet, or he might scream wildly because something, I don't know, is just not right. Like, a toothbrush, I don't know, fell and nobody picked it up
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, for example. Like that. Well, it could be some little things like that. And he just gets triggered instantly, he gets triggered, yes, instantly.
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Something is wrong, or I looked at him the wrong way, or something else. I mean , that's just how he is, and he cools down quickly, I have to say that. He cools down quickly, but for you, well,
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for me, for example, I can't cool down quickly. So, well, he screams at me and then you think, "Okay, come on, I can't let it go that fast." I mean, I'm shaking after that.
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And at the same time, we were filming for YouTube and editing constantly. So that was also like working all the time, and I had to do things, sell these tickets, and also show the rehearsal process, so it was all really tough.
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And we probably, I think since late April, I decided that I just couldn't sleep with him anymore because he also had a very strange schedule. He falls asleep at 5:00 a.m., wakes up, I don't know, at 12:00, at 11:00. So his
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schedule is just constantly messed up, yeah. Do you go to bed earlier? Yes, I go to bed at like 11:00 or 12:00, yeah ? And he was always throwing me off that schedule. I said, "Andrey, because I can't take it anymore. I just want to at
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least sleep, well, get some sleep, before the concert, yeah, I started going to a different bed in the dressing room." And that was another huge avalanche of problems.
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Just purely up to the point of screaming that I wasn't sleeping with him. And probably, I think about a week and a half before the concert, he got so worked up that he woke me up at night, at 2:00 AM.
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He stands there in front of me, in front of the walk-in closet, and says: "If you don't come sleep with me right now, I'll jump off the balcony." Well, I wake up and say: "Listen, Andrey , like, I just said: 'Well, go ahead and
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jump.'" And he takes it, opens the balcony, goes out from the closet, climbs over to the other side of that well, railing railing, yeah, and starts screaming there. Yes, I was just, well, I was in a panic.
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You know perfectly well that I don't even go out on the balcony like you do, right? For me, it's terrifying, right? I mean, I have no idea what's happening at all. I turn on the lights, I run out onto that balcony. I'm
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literally forcing myself to do it right then yeah. He isn't on the balcony. Well, for a moment I think I’m going to lose my mind, yeah, and then I look to the side of the balcony, and we have those windows there
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that open up a bit, you know? So he had hidden behind one window like that, just standing there. I see his legs, yeah, and he’s standing there, you know, in his underwear.
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It was 2:00 in the morning. I even saved the footage on video. Yeah , yeah, you have cameras set up here. And you showed me that video. I honestly didn't know that he had hidden behind He hid behind that in the bedroom. I
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went out into the closet, but he hid in the bedroom, I realized, behind that ledge.
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But I just saw the video on the camera that’s right here, where he goes into the closet, yeah, where he runs out and screams: " I'm going to jump!" And you're trying to calm him down. And I remember that
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He didn't believe me at first, like I said: "Okay." I said: "Andrey, that's enough, calm down." No. And that's when he started running out, right?
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And then you were telling him: "Well, please what—" No, I just started screaming, right, Andrey. I hoped, I thought he had jumped . Yes, I thought he had jumped.
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It was, it was absolute horror, yes. It was simply a nightmare, yes. And I woke up, well, sort of got ready, it’s also on the video.
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And I said: "That's it, I'm going to my mother's apartment." And he grabbed me like that, held onto my legs so I wouldn't leave.
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And this was right before, well, before the concert, well, kind of shortly before the concert, yes.
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Yes. When I was very nervous and worried , and I was afraid that we might miss something, not finish it and Uh-huh.
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Yes, it was difficult, difficult. And tell me about the concert itself, how did it go? It was just, yes.
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Yes, I must say that before the concert we also had a lot of threats of various kinds.
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That was also all piling up on me. Of course, they tried to, well, there was a very serious statement there about me being poisoned.
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Uh, we went to the police, filed a statement and all of that happened. And we didn't tell you any of this, friends.
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I don't know why, for some reason I still wanted some kind of celebration. I didn't want all this, I didn't want the haters to win.
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I didn't want to be at the mercy of Andrey's mood and his these impulsive these uh outbursts. I just wanted as if, I don't know, I wanted some kind of beauty, some kind of celebration. I realized that people were coming from
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all different countries and so on. I mean, yes, why the hell should they need to know all this, yes, all this context, yes.
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Well, you know, I'm, well, like we're recording this video now, and I'm not getting any pleasure from this right now either, yes, like, uh, it would be better if we talked about some topic, say, from teeth whitening to some places.
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somehow gave people some positivity, yes, positivity, some reason for joy, humor, rather than us discussing this right now absolutely out of necessity, because, well, not to respond to lies and falsehoods well it's well it's it's just that people don't actually
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understand what was happening, that is, why such a decision was made, including by me. Yes. Well, okay then, let's move on to the concert. at the concert. Well , everyone knows the situation when we didn't manage to finish rehearsing and
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they evacuated us. They are evacuating us, and I am trying until the last moment not to leave that hall. And I’m shaking like this all over. And the police tell me that if you don’t leave right now, we’ll carry you out. And
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there are people already standing there . Anyway, we were the last I’m shaking like this all over. I realize it’s 5:00 PM and we’re not going to make it in time for anything. I was on stage wearing what I had on; they
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didn’t even let us go change. In short, we leave, thank God Seryozha found that cafe—the one people saw in the footage, how he found that place for us—and I just sat there, having no idea what was happening.
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I mean, I understood, well, you looked completely devastated. Well, I just realized that this was, among other things, a total nightmare, what was happening right then. I also understood that, first of all, it would undermine all my other concerts if we
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couldn't manage to pull this one off. Secondly, I realized it was a financial issue, because, yes, we had 120,000 in the till.
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And at that point, we already had about 100,000 in expenses. And all of it was, ah, the money that I had been saving for a year, well, Andrey and I had been saving for a year for this whole thing,
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right. I realize that if this all falls apart now, it’s just going to be a total disaster right.
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Yeah. Well, and we’re sitting there, and I realize that I realize that there’s no way out here.
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He starts saying something, I don't know and don't remember what he was saying there.
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About who’s paying the bill? No, no, that was even before that. Wait , before the bill. Then our organizer walks in and says that the dogs have checked everything, you can go in. I think it was 6:50, and our
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concert starts at 7:30. So we have 40 minutes. I remember, oh my God. And Andrey at that moment ordered food at the restaurant. Yes, food at the restaurant. And he even says to me, he says, "Seryozha, why are you rushing? 5
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minutes won't change anything, and we have nothing ready." Yes. Every second counted, I had extensions done. We hadn't even managed to trim them yet. Those were even hair. I had to get them cut. And he says to me, "
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Seryozha, why run? Like, well, right now 5 minutes won't change anything at all. " And we already had a line, people were all standing there waiting for the hall , right? So I just, yeah, I didn't even start saying anything to them yet. I
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thought, it's just pointless to even argue about it. And then he says, "Well , who’s going to pay?" Again, saying that to me, even though we have a million different assistants and helpers , right? So for some reason, he didn’t
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think to ask anyone else. And, by the way, Ksenia Sobchak is exactly the one who asks him that, she confronts him about it. He doesn’t even understand what it’s about.
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And it's surprising that when he was editing the video, he realized that, well, the food thing was a bit of a setup, that he'd get hate for it.
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So he cut that moment out during the editing later. But for some reason, he left this one as it was. I don't know why, what the reasons were, like, well, maybe he really got hate for it already and missed it, maybe, maybe, yeah.
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Yeah. And we run in there. So I already realize that I'm just not reacting to him at all.
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I think, well, for sure now he won't be saying anything else to me. Well, actually, I had gotten into the habit at some point, right, of just not reacting to him, honestly, because I’d already developed, you know, some kind
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of immunity to it. And we si...I just run to the shower, uh , take a quick bath, right, run out, and I'm sitting there, getting my hair done , makeup done, the photographer is already there, and he bursts into our
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dressing room. That was the first moment . And he just starts cursing at me, saying that I’m a very bad manager, like a crappy manager.
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He says in other words that I can't organize anything well because our friend wasn't let in by security downstairs and that I submitted the lists incorrectly.
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I mean, I had organized the whole concert, everything, and apparently I did it all wrong. And that I urgently need to get up right now and go sort it out down there.
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Even though there are a million people he absolutely knows. I mean, yeah, he can't even go up to security himself and resolve the issue, right, if, well, you’re a man, do something, try to do something.
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Uh-huh. And I'm just holding myself back like this, saying: "Okay, Andrey, go to that person, that one, yeah," I'm just—I'm even trying to stay, uh, composed at this point.
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And 10 minutes pass, and he just bursts in, literally kicking the door open, and he starts having a tantrum, a fit.
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So, first he lost some Dolce&Gabbana shorts of his, and then it turned out I hadn't ironed them.
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Yeah, and he was yelling at me and at everyone else at the window. This was, uh, witnesses, I don't know, Zhenya the photographer and Milena, who was doing my makeup, and Irina Hair, they just—I think they just froze at that moment, all those girls,
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yeah. And I realize that the main thing for me right now is not to cry, because, well, mascara, well, everything, right, on me. I mean, I understand that we just don't have an extra 5 minutes for a touch-up, right,
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for a touch-up, yeah. Well, anyway, I don't know, Anton, I think, helped him out with those shorts somehow, and he's just totally freaking out.
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He's like, everything, and he sits down , meaning, "Hurry up and do my makeup," and he has to go out for the third number, say, I have the first two, he's going out for the third.
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Yeah, and people keep coming in and telling me, the organizers, "That's it, let's head to the stage." And he, I don't—well, I don't even know how to explain it. I mean, he's sitting there, not even reacting to me at all.
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Oh, he didn't even say a word. No luck, yeah, nothing at all. Yeah. And it also happened that because of all this delay, and the dancers, and you, and there's no one there, I'm walking backstage, and it's this
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completely dark corridor. And there's just no one. Everyone just seems like, it's like no one's ready, everyone's off in their dressing rooms or somewhere else. And I can already hear my music playing, the girls are already standing on the balconies, the musicians, yeah.
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And I'm stepping onto this stage, and like that—total darkness. I thought that I'd be heading to my first concert, and he'd come up to me, at least give me a hug, you know, like ...I'm not even talking about saying
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something, just at least come over and say: "Break a leg, you can do it." And I’m standing there alone in this absolute darkness with the curtain closed in front of me.
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Because I am the loneliest person in this world. I’ve never felt this lonely. It felt like I just wanted to die. It was shaking me so much. I was so worried about what kind of person would come next. I don’t
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remember any of the numbers after that, because from the stress, I was shaking like this.
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And then I, I swear, right at that moment, right before going out, I said that if you are that lonely, then be lonely.
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It’s better that there’s no one by your side, but you will never let anyone treat you like that ever again.
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Then the curtain opened. And the people were all applauding for me. I thought that I wasn't lonely.
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I’m here for these people. But I will never, ever put up with this again never.
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And during the third song, he came out. We had a number together there. And I had decided at that moment, I said that’s it, no more. And he tried, I don’t know, maybe many people remember.
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Comment on that, yes, that video where he tried to hug you. He tried to hug me, but I had just decided for myself that there was no turning back.
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I stepped in, and I even said a phrase to him then. Many might not have understood, they thought it was just some general phrase.
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I turned back to him and said, "Good versus evil." And walked away. Yes. And then...did you talk to him about this topic at all? You mean...
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Yes, then we came home, but I was absolutely dead for the first 2 days.
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And probably on the third day, I told him, "Andrey, I can't take it anymore, let’s find a way to separate." Well, he just says, ah, he says in this interview, well, repeatedly, that it's as if there were no conversations at all
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. Of course, our concert was on May 21st, and he left on June 9th.
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And all this time we talked every day, and I told him, "Andrey, please, if you want to save our relationship, we need to do something, we need to change.
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Let’s at least take a break for a while . Let’s not be together 24/7. I can’t do it anymore. I won't be able to endure this anymore.
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And he resisted. And I offered a million options. I said," Let me move out, and if you don't want to leave this apartment, then let's... "Well, in short, I just really wanted to be alone for at least one
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month. I wanted that, and I suggested to him:" How about we see a couples therapist? " And he agreed to that too. And just about anything else. Yes.
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Yes. And on the ninth, well, we talked about this every single day, we discussed why , what the problem was.
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So, it's an absolute lie that he’s saying now that he didn't know what was going on. I mean, it's, well, I don't know how to explain this. The person is simply lying.
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No, we talked about it every day, we discussed it. And then he told me that yes, I agree, I will leave, you don't have to leave, I will go to Germany.
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He told me:" But you owe me, my first demands were: rent an apartment for me, right here in Paris.
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"He told me:" Find some long-term rental . "I said:" Andrey, we aren't even on a long-term rental here ourselves, they can ask us to leave at any moment, so I know for a fact we won't find you an
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apartment. " I said:" Let's look somewhere else. " Well, where, where would that even be?
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Let's just rent some Airbnb or something . Where do you want to go? I said:" If you want to go to Monaco, just take the money. "Go. There. You wanted to fulfill your dream and live somewhere, didn't you want to go to Monaco?
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I said:" Go ahead. "He said:" No, I'll go to Germany later, but you have to organize everything for me there.
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"He told me:" You have to organize my transfer, organize how I'll drive a car there, because we have major issues with the car.
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"There. And most importantly, he told me that I had to come up with a PR strategy for how he would talk and make excuses, that he isn't a gigolo and that you didn't dump me. That was a key point for
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him. And he wanted to save face. Yes, yes, that was the most, the most important thing, yes.
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And he kept insisting:" I'm taking the car. "He told me:" I'm going to drive it there.
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"Even though he doesn't have a license. I said:" No, Andrey, you can't drive in Germany without a license. "Yes.
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Anyway, in the end, we agreed that we needed to buy a bicycle. I bought one for him on Amazon, we chose it together , sat on the bike, and you ordered it for him.
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But he doesn't know how to order anything. I'm telling you, he doesn't know how to order on Amazon. For him, all of this is just unrealistic. He can't even enter an address. He doesn't know our address. I mean, he doesn't
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understand how to enter a card and so on . So, he doesn't understand how to do it . So, I choose for him and I mean, you understand, and I ordered it to that address. Yes, he left, and you organized how he would get there
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, how he would stay there, and what he would use to get around, yes.
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And he asked me, really asked me, not to mention this on social media in any way .
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He told me he wouldn't be filming anything at all, but that I shouldn't say anything, nothing at all.
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He couldn't ask me to stop what I was doing because I had advertising contracts still running, my trip was already in the works, and so on.
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Everything was planned, I had a lot going on. I couldn't just stop showing up and disappear.
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So. And he asked me not to comment on it in any way. And he asked me for the dog for at least a week. He said," I'll be alone, it won't be lonely there. "Yes. And I organized all of that for him, yes. And
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he left on June 9th. He left. He was taken by car, yes. And we said goodbye with a lot of difficulty.
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He cried, I cried. Well, it wasn't easy right. And again, I went on stories and followed his lead, saying that Andrey had gone on vacation with Lucy to rest a little, take a break, it's been a tough period, and so on.
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By the way, a lot of people wrote in, they realized something was wrong, and it felt like we, well, you in particular, were trying to smooth things over, but people knew that things weren't okay anymore.
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I'll tell you even more. I was probably about 50 percent sure that with the help of psychologists and this distance, we would be able to improve the problem, that he would come back. Yes, I was sure of it when he was leaving. I didn't have
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the feeling that we were breaking up for good. Well, did you want to break up, or did you want to fix things?
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What did you want at that time? I was very afraid of him and, from that point on, I was also afraid of being alone.
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And for me, it was like, you know, something between us had snapped. It was like I couldn't be with him, but at the same time I couldn't leave him— yeah, I’d become so used to him, and maybe I’d even developed some kind of
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Stockholm syndrome to an extent, that I felt, you know, like something had been ripped out of me, some kind of life force.
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But it’s true, we were together all the time, yes. That is how all classic manipulators actually work.
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Abusers who do everything to create this emotional dependence, you know, so that when they aren't around, you suffer even more, and you even feel guilty about it .
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Yes, maybe, I don't know, but he was crying hysterically, and I remember that he was filming me, by the way.
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Most likely, he has that footage. I couldn't film anything. I was just shaking like this. And I didn't want to , in principle. And indeed, he didn't post anything on Instagram for a week, just as he promised. Yes,
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just as he promised, yes. Well, it was more like he asked, not exactly promised .
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I mean, I was ready to talk about it, but I realized that we didn't have a single post or any story that ever said we were a couple, right?
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I mean, for us, it was always a taboo topic, so it would have been strange to say," Hello, we are breaking up. " People would have asked," Wait, were you together? "" Well, a lot of people still thought we just
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had a creative partnership. " Uh-huh. And yes, that’s exactly why Ksenia asks him about that reel, because suddenly after a week Uh-huh.
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he starts posting some reels, stories, where he’d already added a voiceover. He never in his life does any voiceovers at all. I don't know where he got that from, who taught him, how he even did some editing.
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that like I chose, no, Seryozha didn't choose me and so on, and everyone was writing:" Oh, Seryozha, is that why you broke up, did Seryozha cheat on you, he didn't choose you.
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"And comments like that started appearing. I was like:" Stop, I'm writing to him: ' Andrey, then at least tell the truth about what is happening with us'. " And you wrote to him then, wrote him comments. Yes, I really realized that I
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was, well, I was surprised. And it also turns out that I have advertising contracts here, I'm traveling around, doing some things here and there, having fun in Paris, while he’s there suffering, in agony. And I call him and say:" Andrey, we had an
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agreement, you were the one who asked not to bring up the topic, and now you're the first one bringing it up.
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"And then it turns out that from the very first minute he was driving with that driver, he filmed a million stories and content.
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He probably spent a month posting those reels when he didn't even have his dog there anymore.
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And he kept posting her, the dogs, kept it up, yes, and all this" I'm lonely "stuff and so on, yeah, like I was dumped and some other, well, I don't even know what it was anymore.
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That was classic manipulation. And what was he doing at that moment? And I think the audience, only now, I feel, is starting to understand that he did everything.
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Everything so that we would look like we’re out here having fun and relaxing, while he’s poor, miserable, covered in flies, you know, in that Germany, you know, suffering from loneliness. Oh my god, what a sad sack, you know? Everyone
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, feel sorry for him. Everyone dumped him everyone he yes. We continued to film YouTube in the same format, and we started getting just constant hate, saying you dumped poor Andrey, hate started going towards the guys, saying you don't know how to film
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and so on. And I tell him:" Andrey, if you want to keep going with this story, well, then I'm going to start telling the truth too .
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"It’s not like we had a fight with him, we talked on the phone, we were constantly calling each other, calling every single day, yes." But he says that you didn't, that you didn't, that's completely untrue. So, we were
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calling each other literally every day. Meaning we were constantly in touch, yes . And, I mean, he was looking for a psychologist.
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By the way, yes, I also told him: " Andrei, regarding this psychologist... well, I won't be looking for one, because I knew perfectly well that if it were a psychologist chosen by me, he would immediately, well, on the very
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first day say, 'This isn't the right psychologist.'" So, I said: "Please, look for any psychologist you want, so that it doesn't depend on me in any way, so you don't think that I'm somehow trying to influence or persuade you." Yes.
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Tell me about your sessions, how did they go? Wait, let me tell you first, so you understand how Andrei, well, he calls me 3 days later and says, "Seryozha, I can't forget this." That completely knocked me off balance.
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He tells me: "You know, you ordered the bike for me incorrectly." "It arrived completely disassembled, and I had to spend the whole day putting it together." "You don't even know how to do that right." Exactly. He told me that.
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Really. Yes. So I was to blame even for that. Yes. Yes. A nightmare. And plus, you were sending him money, Of course, because, well, he took, probably, How much did you send him during all that time?
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Well, I think about 20 thousand I sent via transfer and 10 thousand I gave him in cash. Well, not "gave," he just took it. Basically, all the money we had at home, he just took it.
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So, he took 30,000 in June. Yes. And plus you also ordered him that bicycle.
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Yes. Yes. Everything else, yes. And you were paying for everyone else too. Yes. So, that's like, well, loosely speaking , almost 40. Well, yes.
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Well, no, not 40, yeah. Well, it doesn't matter, actually. It doesn't even matter , yes. Doesn't matter.
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Why are you shifting around? I'm just a bit stiff. I apologize. Now I'm... See, it's not easy being an interviewer , actually, you understand? Everything gets stiff.
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Well, let's proceed further, right? Further. Yes, he continued to post that content. I had to go on a trip to Alsace, and he knew that.
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And we had to postpone that trip twice, again, partly because of Andrei. And, of course, a big thank you at this point to Dasha, for organizing this trip , because it was probably the hardest thing for me, because we were filming
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everything during the day, showing it all, and in the evening I was in tears all the time, and everyone there was comforting me.
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It was very difficult. Yeah. And at the same time, Andrey kept pushing his narrative that everyone abandoned me, I’m learning to live alone .
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Yes, he did it all specifically to spite me. Yes, he did it intentionally to portray himself as such a victim, yeah, while you were supposedly having fun, and he was specifically siccing the audience on you.
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Yes, I was just getting constant hate, like, you’re having fun at a five-star hotel, while poor Andrey is alone, you should have gone to him and spent time with him instead.
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And you know, what I... even though it was with that very money that Andrey went [on his trip]. Well, yeah, I mean, the money you were earning for him back then.
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You know, what still surprises me personally actually. Well, I sometimes come across comments like that, yeah.
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Knowing everything that was going on inside, well, knowing the emotions you were feeling, people write that, oh, when you two filmed videos together, there was that special vibe, some kind of charm between you two, like some kind of domestic idyll, yeah, and that, well
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, how much that is missed. But in reality, people had no idea what was going on behind the picture, and they continue to write that. And I know that...
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no, he was very skilled, specifically on camera and in front of other people, he could pretend, especially in front of famous or well-known people.
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He’s just such a goody-two-shoes, right . I mean, he just really lays it on thick, yeah, like, I’m here, yeah, Seryozhenka and so on, yeah.
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Seryozhenka. Seryozhenka and I. Seryozhenka. I would catch that moment and I’d just get so tense, yeah, I’d be irritated, because we’d have had a scandal right before, and he’d turn on the camera and go "Seryozhenka, Seryozhenka," and I
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just wanted to say: "Damn, how is this even possible, right?" Let’s talk about a, well, probably a very important topic.
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I want to touch on it a little earlier. He says that, well, in this interview he showed the divorce papers that you filed , And he says, he claims in this interview that you did it a year ago, that, like,
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you did it behind his back, Yes, and he sort of presents it like that, you know, throughout the interview.
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That it’s as if you never argued, as if you never talked about anything, and one day you dumped him and filed for divorce .
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So it's presented as if you had been preparing this for a year, there were no talks, no fighting, and everything happened in one day. In reality, we already understand that this wasn't the case. But as for the divorce, when did
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you file for divorce? Well, look, before I filed for divorce, I want to say that in July we started joint therapy sessions, where we tried to talk through these points.
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So, I was telling him again through the psychologist, a third party, an arbiter that these are the problems we have in our relationship. He says: "It’s all lies.
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You’re a traitor, you’re this and that. " And our psychologist sessions would just end with the psychologist having to mute his microphone. Well, because it was impossible.
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I remember he would even say that some kind of curse had been put on us or that we needed a cleansing.
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There was just so much going on, yes, it was a nightmare. Then, in July, it just started, I mean, he began hitting me with threats on WhatsApp, that I wouldn't belong to anyone else, meaning either with me or
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I’ll destroy you, yes, specifically those kinds of threats. Then at night, some people would come to my place; he had a key to the apartment , and I didn't know if it was him or not . We started getting anonymous reports
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about canceling my concerts in Berlin. So, July was just some kind of hell, absolute hell, that I was living in. And I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I don't know if it was all from him, maybe
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there were some haters involved too. I don’t want to make accusations, but it was just, I don’t know, probably the most difficult month, yes.
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And I more or less, in August, when we went on vacation, I recovered a bit, yes , and he—oh, by the way, he also threatened me with cancellations there.
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He wrote to me there, ah, even when he was in Jurmala, that Pugacheva would almost cancel me, Verka Serduchka was also there, you remember that whole story, he recorded, in all seriousness, some messages from a producer there.
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That Pugacheva would record a video about you. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. He wrote it directly to me. I mean, it was just some kind of surreal thing there, really.
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Uh-huh. That they wouldn't believe it. Yeah, just, yeah, that believe me, guys , I personally saw that correspondence.
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I confirm, it is, it is real. Ah, well, yeah. I mean, I even remember that I wrote back: if Serduchka records at least some video about me, that's already a great honor for me. Yeah, so.
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I mean, well, it was just some kind of total surrealism, I don't know, maybe the producer poured this into his ears, right. Ah, and then the songs started.
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Most importantly, those songs started, absolutely some kind of... Yeah, but before those songs, this guy of his, what's he...
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A producer, right. Yes, that producer, who is a criminal, right, in Ukraine. Well, I don't know, yeah, I don't want to talk about that right now, especially on YouTube.
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I saw something like that, yeah, but look at the situation. This producer started actively attacking us in some comments, writing posts. And I, once again, called Andrey and said: " Andrey, please, calm him down and ask him so that this, like, doesn't happen
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anymore." And he told me that it's his business, he's separate, and, like, he doesn't influence it, and he doesn't see or hear anything at all. And then I had to respond to that producer because, well, it just drove me crazy, yeah,
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because I believe that, well, in your inner circle, with whom you release songs, it's unacceptable if something like this happens, yeah.
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Because, yeah, because very many people actually think that you were the one who started the first argument on the internet.
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No, no, no, not at all. It all started with Andrey, with the fact that he started releasing all this stuff.
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And I only wrote that one comment, then the producer started stoking the fire, and then they just started churning out those songs with hints about me, doing some stuff with eggs with me, some kind of story like that, yeah, people...
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Yes. Yes. And, by the way, I didn't tell you the most important thing, when I was already leaving Alsace in June.
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Oh, by the way, the most important moment, probably, yes, in June, when we finished, and I was moving to Strasbourg . I was right near you.
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This was at the moment when he had already left for and Lucy was with him. I tell him: " Well like you" " took the dog literally for a week, so, please." We agreed that he would give her to me in Strasbourg.
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He tells me: "No, I won't give her to you.""This dog is mine.""That's it, I'm not going to do anything." But for him, in reality, Lucy was a manipulative tool for the audience.
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Absolutely. He portrayed it as if you had abandoned him and Lucy, right? And it was a tool, you know, such a pathetic tool for manipulation, using an animal, you understand, to evoke pity from people, you know?
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That was just, it was simply and Yes. And I called him, I think we were in Alsace, I called him and said: " That's it, we'll be in Strasbourg tomorrow, please, let's make an arrangement, you'll come." He says: "I won't go, I don't have
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tickets, I don't know how to book a train." "Pay for my taxi." I'm seriously telling you, yes, that, yes, pay for my taxi, really.
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Then he completely cut me off and didn't answer me at all. So I realize that I won't get the dog back, and we have cameras at home.
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I think, what is this, where did he disappear to, right? And I open the cameras. At that moment, he is sitting on our balcony and talking on speakerphone with his producer. Back then, they hadn't even met yet. They were having their very
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first conversations. But I won't talk about the erotic content of that conversation, which was total trash.
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Right. But the most important thing is what he said, and I saw him from a different side, because before that I was told, "I love you," and so on. And here he is telling this producer about me and saying: "Well, Seryozha is
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whining about the dog, but of course, I won't give him anything." Right. "And in general, you and I are going to make such hit songs here." "I'll prove it to everyone, yes." "And at the concert in Berlin, I will
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set conditions for him that I must sing three solo songs." He tells me: " Otherwise, I won't participate in this concert." You see, even though we had broken up, I was sure that we would get back together before the concert. I mean
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, I thought we would sort everything out . And I hear all of this. And the producer is already telling him: "Yes, I've already come up with this song for you.
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You'll ride out on a throne with a dance troupe, you know, onto the stage, and everyone will applaud.
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These will be super hits. And Seryozha and Igor will just fall by the wayside, and the concert will even need to be renamed, not for Seryozha, but, like, Andrey Allright." Wait, I have a few clarifying questions .
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So, do I understand correctly that at the moment he's telling you how much he loves you, how he wants to come back, how he's realized everything, you log into the cameras and see how at that very moment he is discussing with this, I don't want
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to say his name, I don't even know what his name is, some Alex, let's say. Yes, yes, yes, some Alex. And he's talking to him about erotic topics . Yes, well, they were discussing something like that, I mean, even some
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intimate details, which I just, yes, I was stunned, yes. Not that they were together, they were just sharing some of their experiences, yes, uh, homosexual ones, I would say, yes, homosexual ones, yes. And so it turns out that at the very moment he
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tells you he loves you, at that same moment they are discussing how I gave him conditions, how I gave him this and that. Yes, yes. And for me then, it was probably something of an epiphany, in part. I
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thought, I need to get the dogs back by any means necessary. By the way, I even, I made a recording of this conversation with the producer, yes, there is someone who has it, yes, also has it, yes, and he knows Andrey,
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so yes and what's more, I think it's very important to note that for everything we are saying now, everything exists, yes, either correspondence or some, yes, I think, yes, there is 100%proof so that people don't think we are just, well,
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blabbering or, yes, making things up out of thin air. Oh, absolutely not. And this, I think, is a very important point . So what happened in the end? Did you Yes, in the end we had another one in
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July No, no, no. Wait, so in the end, well, he did bring the dog to me in Strasbourg.
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I mean, I already... And how did he get there? By taxi, I think, I don't remember, either I transferred him money or I bought the tickets, I don't remember how it was.
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It seems to me that I bought the tickets for him, I think. Yes. But he said he wouldn't go back. Very complicated transfers. He would take a taxi there. He took a taxi, yes, yes. And he gave me the dog. And thank
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God, because it was such a, well, it was I knew he would manipulate me with the dog. And, by the way, the dog didn't feel very well with him.
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She never went to him. Yes, yes, that's true. She only ever stayed right next to you.
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She never, she never sat near him. She never went to him. I mean, she was just totally indifferent to him. Totally indifferent , absolutely. Yes.
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Yes. And, by the way, even when we saw him recently, we walked out with the dog , and the dog passed right by without even recognizing him.
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Oh well, never mind. And in July, yes, we had this whole story start, I mean, right...
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those songs. Let's talk about the songs . The songs, and then, well, the "Ancora" thing started. Then he released "Ancora " in August. Yes. Before that, friends, again, I want to say that we are working with a psychologist. So it's not like we
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aren't talking, we are right there in psychological sessions, so we are actively working. The psychologist tells me, and him, that we should also work individually, and she goes into individual sessions with him because, well, he can't control himself.
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He's yelling all the time. I mean, he would just yell, during all our joint sessions he was yelling. And she goes with him for individual sessions, and with me individually. We talk all of this through with her.
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He talks it through with her, and she brings us back together for a joint session yes.
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And again, all she asks him is: "What are your feelings toward Sergey?" He says: "He is a traitor, he is a scumbag . He dumped me, I need money." She says : "We're not talking about feelings right now, we're not in court, and this
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isn't about lawyers. You can hire a lawyer and resolve that issue. We are talking about feelings now, what do you feel toward him?" There’s resentment there, all of that. I mean, he hasn't once been able to say even now that he
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loves me. And I, and because later this psychologist says: "Well, look, Seryozha is asking you a question: 'Do you love him or not?'" "Just answer." And he’s back to the money again, about how he developed everything there, that he practically
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made me, and so on. I mean, it’s all just the same old story. And in the end , he shouted so much that the psychologist said that was it; she turned off his microphone, and then mine too. And she said, "Guys, this is a dead
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end, I'm dropping you as clients." And the psychologist, mind you, was some leading psychologist from Moscow, a professor, a PhD.
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Yes. I mean, she said there was no point , you don't hear each other, and it's useless.
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And then he called me back in an absolutely normal tone. It’s amazing, he just slept it off and says: "Seryozha, I was a very bad psychologist." Yes, a very bad psychologist. "Let's, let's talk differently." Yes, yes, seriously, I really...Yes.
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The psychologist said some very smart things. By the way, she helped me a lot .
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She told me that the best thing you can do for him is to stop saving him.
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That the best thing for him is to let him set sail now, because he will keep clinging on, and this is the only way you will help him.
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Listen, and regarding, you know, the division of property. Well, wait, let's get to that. That property division. We don't have any property division yet. We still...
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Ancor. I wanted to say Ancor. Yes. Ancor. Well , alright, go ahead. I just wanted to put a twist on it.
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Look, the property division only happened later. I mean, I was still, at that moment in time, mid-August, Lera won't let me lie.
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We have a concert in a month, and I still think that not that we will get back together, but we could at least remain on friendly terms and talk normally, that we still would be.
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I'm not changing the numbers in the concert. I think that we might somehow manage with the help of common sense.
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Yes, we thought he would be performing at the concert, he would be performing, right?
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I was sure, I mean, we are booking him a room in Berlin, yes, yes, asking how he’s flying and so on.
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So, this was like, well, still mid-August, so, just so you all understand, that was us, I was still hoping that we’d have something, yes, and then he went off somewhere to Italy, and things there turned into some kind of complete trash, I don't know, he
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was already having a blast there. He completely forgot about everything. Uh-huh. Yes. And then he releases Ancora. He releases Ancora. And, well, you all know about Ancora, naturally, right, that supposedly he met some people somewhere on a yacht.
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Yes, can I tell it? Yes, I just happened to come across a clip of his Instagram live. These clips are very easy to find on TikTok. So he’s talking there on the live stream about how they were on some
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yacht, and on the neighboring yacht, yes, miraculously, there happened to be relatives of this Mina, Mina, who sings Ancora, the original song. And he somehow became friends with these relatives there.
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They loved his song, yes, the AI one. Yes, they loved his, you know, AI song and gave him permission to release it, I mean, it’s absolute, it’s just total lies, too, yes, and at the same time, he said that
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he wanted to do this version for me, but I didn't pick up the phone, and so he sang it himself and released it himself already.
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Well, and besides, it was presented in such a way that, well, I was ready, yes , but then I recorded the song in 24 hours and uploaded it immediately.
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I see, well, in reality, this is prepared, well , way, way in advance before uploading a song to a platform.
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It takes a certain amount of time, you need to generate the song, it takes about 2 hours in Suno, yes, to write some prompts for it, yes.
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Well, I mean, it’s not done that quickly . And so, you know, right, yes. Well, now we know that, like, it’s an absolute lie. He didn't meet any Minas or any relatives. They just got a standard mechanical license, a so-called
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one, for a cover song. That’s why after the name there is, in parentheses, cover 2026, yes.
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And all this is done on the platform. The only thing is that it’s not a legally accurate story, because it’s not a 100%cover, it’s an adaptation of the work.
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And you really need to get permission for that. I could have also gotten a mechanical license for my Ancora, but I’m not allowed to, because it involves the adaptation of an original work. Yes , and this isn't exactly a legal
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situation, to be honest. The fact that they obtained a mechanical license is, well, a tricky thing, because if the copyright holder actually notices, and since they are very small, he just doesn't see it, they will most likely have problems,
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yes. I mean, and by that time he had already done a lot of all sorts of nonsense.
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That is, well, at the same time he, yes, he released something where he says, "I would do this song for you, but..." Well yeah, no, it was even before that; he was writing all kinds of nonsense to me, like "you must come to Italy,""you
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have a last chance with me," and things like that, yeah. And I realized that the guy was just not himself.
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And by that time I had already decided that it was probably time to start thinking about a divorce.
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Yeah. And I wrote to a firm that deals with this kind of thing. Also, of course, the stuff Andrey is spouting about a year in Germany—we didn't get married in Germany; our marriage was in Mexico.
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Accordingly, this marriage is just, well , it is recognized; a Mexican marriage is recognized in Germany. We just had it translated, we didn't do any, uh, what is it called, formal recognition of this marriage or anything. It is just
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automatically recognized. Accordingly, I have to get divorced under Mexican law as well. Yeah. And Mexican law provides for divorce, remotely, even if only one party wants to do it.
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And I asked this firm, how much time do I need for the divorce? And they said: " Four to five months." And I calculated roughly that since his residence permit renewal is at the end of September, we would at least cover
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that period, and by December we would be divorced, because I still wanted to do something good for him so he could keep his residence permit, despite how heated our relationship had become.
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And at some point, I even just blocked him, yeah, but I was still thinking about him.
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And it just so happened that I sent off the, well, uh, divorce documents. I mean , again, we're not talking about some other year, we're talking about now, August, the end of August 2026, yeah, it was it was just
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Yes, yes. And in three—it just happened , I don't know, through some accelerated procedure, they divorced us in three weeks.
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And I received a letter saying you were divorced. Yes. Right the day before applying for the residence permit. Yeah , that’s right.
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I don’t know about the day before applying, because I think he said something like that.
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Well, I don't know. I mean, it probably arrived a bit earlier, but again, look at how he manipulates the facts and claims that I’ve somehow set him up in this situation.
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But even so, friends, under German law, even if I hadn't divorced him, it wouldn't have made any difference at all for the German authorities regarding the residence permit.
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What matters there is whether we live together and have a joint "Haushalt," which means household.
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And since we haven't officially lived together since June, in any case, I cannot go to that, to that agency and say, "You know, we live together, so please extend this for him." Especially, because if the Germans find out that
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they will find out, because all our Russian-speaking users know about it. I’m sorry, we have tons of haters too, and I don’t want to put myself at risk like that either and say: " Yeah, the authorities would have been on
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you afterwards." Um, and by the way, he likely applied for the residence permit extension by forging my signature, claiming I live with him, because I didn't go there.
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Hmm, do you see what the issue is? Meaning he likely submitted knowingly false information claiming we live together, and we are supposed to live together.
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That’s a condition for the residence permit. Not just marriage, but specifically living together. Yes.
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And and it was a surprise to him, yes, that it turned out that we were already divorced yes.
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Oops. So that’s how it turned out, right? Just so unexpectedly. Well, honestly, you know, everything we said before can be skipped, because well, in reality, I’m the one who broke you two up, you understand?
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Is that true, yeah? And how would you comment on this, then ? What does he say? Look, he’s made up a million different excuses.
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Yes, you know, he even wrote to me that someone told him the apartment was cursed, yeah, yeah, and that there were some psychics, right , so that that I’m stealing money?
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Yeah, he made all kinds of stuff up about everyone, about you, about the guys, just absolutely total BS, right?
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So everyone else is to blame, but not him. But not him. Although for the last year , I don’t know, I just don’t know how to get through to him. I mean, he knows it perfectly well. He perfectly knows all
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his screw-ups, he perfectly knows his own character, he perfectly knows what he’s done. And at some point, for example, he might write, like, "forgive me for this, sorry ," but then he forgets, and he starts having those mood swings again.
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By the way, many people ask me how his mood changes like that. If you watched the interview, he seems to be speaking calmly, but then, for example, at the end, when he talks about you, he starts getting riled up and says
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, "I'll do something to him, I'll hit him in the face." Hey, easy. Right, let's not say that.
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And that's just a small part of it, but he immediately starts showing that aggression.
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And that is exactly who he is, yes. He showed his true self right there, " I’ll do this," and that’s how he might act towards me.
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He could act like that toward anyone at all. The most interesting thing is that he wouldn't even come near me, because he's a coward.
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It’s the truth. And even if he did come near, well, it would be one punch, and that’s it, the body is just lying there. That's it.
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Well, I mean, this, well, this is... He's only the "master" at home with me, trying to scare me. That’s just cowardly of him. Yeah, he’d be the first to run away. Yeah, yeah, he’d be the first to run.
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That’s the truth, right? And I’d chase him, I’d catch him. Oh, I feel sorry for him. Don't.
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So, what else would I like to discuss regarding the division of income after marriage?
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Well uh he really got everything mixed up there actually. He just, sorry, let me interrupt you.
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He structured the whole interview as if you are doing everything you can to avoid sharing with him.
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So it was all, you know, he set it up so that he tells in interviews: "I was dumped one day, I don't know why." Meaning we never talked, he doesn't answer me, blah-blah-blah.
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And so everything leads to the topic that, aha, we already got divorced, but I don't know anything.
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And it's as if you don't want to share anything with him, actually, you know?
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Well, first of all, the first point is, what is there to share? That's my first question, right, because YouTube earnings come in every month, and...
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for the new videos released, for the new videos released. This was first, when we were left with them in June again for a while, I had 40,000 in my account. Out of these 40,000, I transferred him 20, and I had 20 left,
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and I also need to give him that... and he took ten more in cash, right? Well, that's separate, yes. And so I had some left, I had to pay for some expenses because I simply didn't have any more money, right. So,
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everything we earned, we earned, let's say, in May 30,000, maybe even 40,000, there was some concert, so it was a bit more.
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Again, if you take away the taxes and what we had left, well, I had already transferred him at least enough for the whole summer.
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Well, really, that is, yes, that is... and normal people, I think, well, if you have a place to live, you have clothes, right, well, it seems to me it should be enough.
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Well, that's what I thought. I don't know, he told me he had already spent it by the end of June. He didn't have that money, I don't know what he spent it on. By the way, he sent me.
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He went to a gay resort in Mykonos. Yes, yes, yes. He also sent me something about buying internet promotions and so on.
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Yes. And they bought ads for his, I don't know what they were doing there , right. Well...
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so you were paying for it. They were even buying us bots for the channel, and yes, I was paying for that .
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Yes. We had a lot of bots in June, just ... identical comments. Yes. Yes. And then it turned out that I'm the one paying for that too.
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He forwarded me what the producer wrote about what he had paid for, and didn't even notice, you know.
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Well, what can I tell you? I thought that should have been enough, but it turns out it wasn't, yeah. Uh, divide.
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What else to divide? The apartment in Paris. The apartment in Paris—excuse me , I slaved away for it, working alongside my husband. We bought that house, I sold it, right? So I don't understand that, you know? The apartment
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we have right here in Germany, where he lives now, it's 50/50. So I have nothing to divide with him. On the contrary, I keep asking him what we're going to do with these apartments, and I constantly write to him about it.
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But he says that you don't even quite the opposite. I write to him, asking what we're going to do, because all the bills come to me, he doesn't pay them, right? I mean, I pay for electricity, for internet, for utilities
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there. Moreover, I You pay? Yes, of course. Well, it's all being deducted from my account, my accounts. I only remember electricity being deducted from his, and utilities were too, but then a few times he didn't have money, so they switched
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to me. I mean, I wrote to them, and they write to me all the time, right? I mean he doesn't go to meetings, some things with the neighbors, he can't communicate with them in German. They write to me
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about all this on WhatsApp. Like, he leaked water on them again or something , and so on. I'm constantly monitoring how he lives as well. So I have to do all of that. I told him that I just
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can't keep doing this either. I don't want to be in charge of your life too.
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Let's find a solution. And I proposed: "Either I pay you for this apartment, or you pay me for this one," I kept offering solutions.
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It’s like, constantly, ever since September, when it was clear we were getting divorced, I’ve been offering it to him.
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Well, because, you see, in the interview he says it felt like you were avoiding these topics of division.
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That’s true, because I did actually block him on WhatsApp at the end of August.
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But we have Telegram, we have a second WhatsApp, uh, we have Instagram, and if he had really needed to, he would have reached out or just at least called my number.
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Well, yeah. I mean, yes, I mean, at least like that , yes. But he didn't do that all September. Yeah.
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Yeah. Oh. Oh, Seryozha, honestly, this is just crazy. Were there any other topics we didn't cover?
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Well, you know, here, there's this bit about Angelina and the producer. Yes. Yes. Well, I don't know them, I'll say that right away. I mean, they are some—I don't know what kind of characters they are, some new friends of
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his. By the way, notice that for some reason, no one from our circle supported him. There are probably reasons for that . Clarify that for him, yes, because everyone knew how we lived, and who our close friends were.
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And I probably didn't tell you the most important thing, about what happened after that interview on Gira.
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He says he won't meet me halfway and so on. Ah, yes, yes, he did say that in the interview.
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It's not true, because he messaged me right during the interview saying he couldn't come right then, but he'd come see me tomorrow at 11:00 AM, let's go walk the dog.
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And we actually met the next day at 11 AM after the interview, and he was practically begging me, saying he hadn't said a single bad word about me in the interview.
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"In the whole interview, I told everyone how much I love you, how everything is great with us, how you are the best, how you helped me with everything, how you did everything for me." "I beg you, please, come back to me."
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And I said, "Andrey, why did you even go to that interview when we agreed not to air all this, that we would just settle things, you know, amicably?" Well, yes, you had an agreement, right?
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not to...well, please. it happens that people break up, right? we weren't able to save our relationship. well, it's not the end of the world, in the grand scheme of things, right? all these issues, even the financial ones you have
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with me, we can resolve those too, right ? just, let's just talk directly and not through Ksenia Sobchak.
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And he says, "Yeah, you know, they really, well, they really want popularity. That's the most important thing for him ." And he couldn't refuse, he couldn't turn it down, right? I mean, he couldn't ; it was such a temptation for him,
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right, temptation, and he admits to it and says, "You know , everyone uses me." That's what he says, so he came to me, and he says, like, Angelina, right, they invite me everywhere, but they all just want to be on camera.
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They want it, they want that PR, they all want to use me. The producer there is using my audience because he has some musical ambitions and so on.
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And he says, "You know, all these people , they try to use me, but I just want to come back to you here at home with the dog.
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I want to tell you that, uh, you're going to scold me now." I believed him again. Yes, I believed him again after the interview. I didn't know what would happen in the interview. I didn't know. Yes, I believed him, and he
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got money from me just like that. He says, "You know, I spent my last money renting this apartment where we filmed the interview, and I only have 150 euros left.
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I don't even know how or what I'm supposed to use to get back." I transferred another 5,000 to him.
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And when people ask me today, what hurt you the most in the interview? It wasn't what he said. It hurt me that he deceived me one more time, because throughout the whole interview he didn't once say that he loves me.
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Not once did he say anything honest. Everything was a lie. And Ksyusha, there was even a moment there that was just hilarious.
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He was talking about some bag, a fake bag. She says to him, "Andrey, what bags ? What are you talking about?
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What on earth are you doing? You've got, well, a conflict looming, right, these relationships, and you're bringing all this up.
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What are you even talking about? But he , he just doesn't hear it at all.
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It's just the same as with the psychologist right money money money money money. And he doesn't hear anything, you understand? Doesn't hear a thing.
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But you know, what I don't agree with in this interview, specifically with Ksyusha. with Ksyusha.
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One moment, I mean, I can disagree with Ksenia Anatolyevna about something, right? Are we media animals?
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I don't know, you tell me. It’s like she projected her own story onto this, thinking that’s how she would have done it, but I don't think so.
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You know, if we had wanted to create hype around this story, we would have done it back in June, right?
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Exactly. Well, believe me, Seryozha, I’m quite the media shark myself, yeah, if I recall my old skills, I could have gotten so much PR out of this divorce, out of all this, could have recorded a million videos, you know?
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But I believe that, and by the way, I had acquaintances who kept saying:" Why aren't you talking about it? Why?
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"I told them, guys, I swear, I don't want to ruin the relationship, I want to exit this gracefully.
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And I think it's better to build some new projects, like we did, came up with 'Heart of an Angel,' made new vlogs.
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We even started filming vlogs differently, not like we did with Andrey , where it was 30 minutes from just one single angle.
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We started filming the whole day, from waking up in the morning until the evening; the guys edit, work, and change things up.
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So we are constantly filling it with some new ideas. And our views are up because of that; when Andrey left, he had, well, 200,000, maybe 300,000 max.
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Now it's a million, a million views since he left. It's worth noting that for those people who write that it was better with Andrey , well, maybe it was better for you if you enjoy emotional abuse, then no
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problem. And since the moment Andrey left, you've gained twice as much of an audience on YouTube as you had before.
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Yes, the same, yes, it's 760,000 now, yes, because I—you see—I gained, and he wants money from this, money from these videos. You're kidding ? And most importantly, I didn't build this on the divorce, I purposefully kept quiet about it all,
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and I didn't bring any of it out. On the contrary, I said that we would— even to those who told me:" No, just do it once. "I said," No, I will create new projects, I will do vlogs differently,
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and we'll come up with new segments, but we'll do it differently, and I'll just be able to move away from this topic. " And that's actually what I did.
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If Andrei hadn't run to Ksenia right now , I wouldn't have said a word at all, honestly.
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We probably would have kept arguing, over text. And nobody would have ever known what was happening between us. And I would have liked it if nobody ever knew, to be honest. I feel incredibly uncomfortable right now that we are
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talking about this. I feel incredibly uncomfortable, but I understand that in order to stop this stream of lies—which will most likely 100%continue— and keep going. It, yes, I needed to say this to everyone right now, honestly, because in June so
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many people were telling me," Why are you acting like nothing is happening? "I thought I would be able to keep quiet and somehow move on to other topics, and that we could gracefully exit this situation.
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But unfortunately, it didn't work out. It's incredibly hurtful, because with Andrei, of course, we also had good moments.
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Undoubtedly, I am incredibly grateful to him for what he did for me, for the fact that we were together, and for the ways he supported me. Yes, he had a very difficult personality, of course, and there were many complicated moments. And
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I thought that despite all that, well, we had feelings, really, and it seemed to me that we could somehow preserve things and exit gracefully, but it didn't work out. And I am incredibly hurt. It's incredibly hurtful that we
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had to record this video right now. But I understand that if we hadn't done it, firstly, I would have blamed myself because, well, I don't know, it feels like I'm constantly being trampled, like , you know, anyone—some person, I don't
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know who—could be a hater, could write me something. And they think that all of this is without consequences.
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And now Andrei has started doing exactly the same thing, spouting nonsense, and thinks it's all without consequences.
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It's like I'm some kind of floor rag, like everyone can wipe their feet on me because I’m supposedly kind, and so they can do whatever they want with me. No, I don't want to be like that anymore. I
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don't want to. I want to fight back, too . I’m tired of this. I can say how it was too.
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And it wasn't always good. And this past year it was just completely impossible. I’ll quickly run through the points I’ve written down.
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I mean, I am a beginner interviewer now , you know? I could open my own YouTube channel now and conduct interviews.
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So, look, honestly, I think we probably discussed some, uh, by the way, he was also saying there, yeah, in the interview, Ksyusha asks him :" What money are you living on? " Yeah.
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And he says:" I was in Italy for a few months. "Well, listen, I don't know.
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I mean, he has all these, he has a big blog, he could, in principle, have taken advertisers. He has just like a million or so active subscribers. This is, again , about the fact that he was never in
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the shadows. I mean, he was always developing his blog. And so why he isn’t living on that money, I can't understand . Any blogger with a million followers can live on that money easily. Why? Why ? Why, like,
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are there financial claims against me? I don't know, I don't understand. But he, you know, he’s getting confused . On one hand, he says:" He owes me this , he owes me that. "And then at the end he says:" I don't need anything, I'll
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start my own YouTube, "and so on. Yeah. I don't know, it's like his mood changes throughout the interview, sometimes he wants it, sometimes he doesn't.
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Some kind of, you know, emotional instability in the person. That was very well put, right?
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I mean, I felt that instability very well on myself over all these years. Also, you know, what killed me, remember , even before the concert, when, well, all your ads were done through barter.
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I don't even want to say, yeah, I always tried to, you know, like how we spent money, and Ksenia asks about the budget there.
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See, I’m always like, I’m such a German , I’ll buy something at an outlet, try to save money with discounts, right?
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But Andrei, he just can’t afford that. I mean, if he goes, it’s Loro Piana, you know, because he doesn't wear polyester. If it’s glasses, it’s Cartier naturally if that’s even a thing.
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And actually, he recently messaged me, he remembered something, that we had a chance to buy this Tiffany thing for him with a discount, with a discount, and I didn't buy it for him, and he brought it up to me just
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last week or this week, like, don't you remember how you didn't buy me that Tiffany?
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I say," Andrei, you're just covered in brands, you walk around head-to-toe in brands. "Yeah. I mean, uh, it’s good it’s not Chinese stuff like before, right? Yeah, yeah, you're completely, you're fully decked out in it. Yeah.
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And even what he says about his things, " I don't have this, "he says," I only have summer clothes, I don't have any winter clothes. "Damn, we packed those things back in June, I think, at the end of June. They were standing right here,
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we packed them, you, me, Matvey, and Seryozha. Yeah. And we messaged him every day:" Andrei, when can we send you these things? When? " And he says," No, I don't need them, I’m not there right now, I’m in Italy. I
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don't need that at all. "And in the end , now, just so you understand, I sent him those things just now. He says," Well, alright, send them, yeah, when it gets cold. " Started getting chilly, did he? And he didn't pay the driver.
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The driver shows up and says," Why aren't you paying me? " Seriously, right? And he says," Seryozha will pay him. " And he sent me a bill for 1,200.
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I write to Andrei, I say," Do you want to pay the bill for your things? " He says," No. "I say," Why? "He says," Well, because I didn't order these things for myself. You came up with the idea that I should leave. "That’s not my
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fault. It’s like, you know, you’re to blame for the fact that I don't live there anymore. Yeah, on top of that. Well, and you’re to blame too. Yeah.
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Yeah. Oh. And I remember, you know, remember you had some dinner at your place, I already told this story, well, off-camera, you know, shared it.
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Ah, so, we had a dinner there at your place, yes, some kind, I think it was for Christmas.
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And, you know, guests arrived, Masha there, some other guys too. And we went out to smoke, and he was already a bit tipsy, you know, he sat down and was like, you know, just sitting there:" Actually, in the 2000s,
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I was the face of Dior. " Masha says to him:" Andrey, how could my photos be hanging all over Paris and Moscow, everyone knows. "She says:" Well, show me, you know, at least one photo. "And that's when the signature move comes in
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. I had a Vertu. We’re all sitting there, glancing at each other, and I realize, are you really saying this total nonsense?
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He’s he’s he’s lying. It’s like he has some, I don’t know, some kind of, I don’t know, maybe childhood trauma, that he was, well, kind of poor, kind of a bit deprived.
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He has this obsession, this need to be the best, to have everything of the best .
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Notice, even when he arrives:" This is the best restaurant, this is the best food, everything must be the best, the most fashionable, yes, it’s really important to him, yes, he really loves high living, he’s even allergic to polyester.
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"Yes, that’s true, yes. Let me finish. I just—I’m so—I have one last question. The last question, yes.
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And it, probably, well, you know, it should probably wrap all this up. Answer me this question. Is it a dead end?
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Igor, that’s a very difficult question, because, undoubtedly, in terms of a relationship, it is a dead end.
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Well, that’s what I meant. In a relationship, it’s a dead end, but I still, nevertheless, would like to maintain a friendly relationship with him.
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I don’t know, this person is also very dear to me. I mean, I know, he did a terrible thing today, and he gave a terrible interview , and he was lying to me constantly.
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But I don’t know, we did have some good moments together. And honestly, I want to tell you, maybe in a year or two, if we could just, you know, just like that, meet up for a coffee, you know, and
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remember how it was, recall some of the good places we had. I would really like that. Really.
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Well, he certainly caused me a lot of pain. A lot. He even didn't shy away from humiliating my mother. I don't know why he did that when she came to stay.
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Well, he was always complaining about what he didn't like. She came over, she was 72, she lived with us at first because our apartment was occupied.
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And he would say that she couldn't cook , that she oversalted things, or chopped onions the wrong way. Yes. Your mom cooks amazingly. Why was that?
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Well, it's as if, you know, as if he did so much for us. Like, as if, but for some reason, I don't know, I want to believe that he, well, he didn't do it out of malice. For some reason, I
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really want to believe that. Seryozha, well, I don't know. I just don't want to .
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Well, you understand, I lived with this person for so long, and we shared so much, and I don't want to believe that this person is only doing this for popularity. I don't want to believe it. I still want
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to believe that, well, there was something in him, simply. Like, are you speaking with your heart right now, or your head?
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With my heart. Heart. And your head? My head. I understand that it's a dead end.
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I realized that a long time ago. Yes. It was with my head that I filed for divorce. I understood that, yes.
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But my heart, yes, when he came back, I accepted him again. Yes, I think, you know what, I feel like you've cried enough for today.
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I think this is as revealing as it gets , more than ever before. I don't think you've ever been this open on the internet.
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And I've personally lost my train of thought several times during this dialogue of ours.
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A few moments really surprised me, and I'll need to process this too, but I'm truly shocked by some parts.
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I believe that after these videos, you can open a path to something new. Close this, let's say, very difficult, yet at times warm experience , and open yourself up to, well, something new, move on, develop, work, find some joy in life, and enjoy it.
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You know, the most important thing for me, the main conclusion I’ve reached, is that you shouldn't put up with things if you're not happy, right.
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You shouldn't think that it's like this for everyone. You shouldn't think that, well, he’ll get over it, he’ll change.
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You need to address it right away, or somehow act immediately, I don't know. Although I talked it over with him all the time. I mean, we always talked about it. But, you see, I kept coming back. I think because I kept coming back, he
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just kept getting worse and worse. Yes, well, he understood that you would forgive everything, you...
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Yes. He cheated, it's fine, he’ll come back; he cheated again, yeah, I'll make up some excuse; yelled, shoved, who cares, I'll make it up to him, or whatever, who cares.
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And you know, when we broke up in June, I really hoped that he...well, I had a feeling that he would send me flowers, or I don't know, I'd go out to walk the dog and he’d be standing there waiting
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for me, for example, and say:" Seryozha , I missed you, "and so on. Well, I thought maybe he’d record something, or I don't know, even post something on Instagram and say:" Seryozha, I love you.
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"" Let’s start over. "Just one post could have done it, I swear to you, that would have been just...
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already some kind of step— 80%of success, yeah. But he didn't do any of that.
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He actually did the complete opposite. Well, you remember, he recorded a poem, didn't he? And even then, it was unclear who it was about, some cryptic message, I don't understand it. And one time, I have to say, he tracked us down again.
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He went in somewhere, found my old phone , connected to it, and tracked us down to the villa on Airbnb.
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He logged in, the Airbnb app was working , he tracked us, and sent a bouquet of flowers.
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And even then, that bouquet of flowers actually scared me at that moment, because, well, how did he find me? I felt like he was stalking me. And, well, the bouquet was after everything he had done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With all that’s been said, you
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know, a bouquet, uh, you know, a bouquet isn't something that can just cover everything up, it has to be at the right time, you know what I mean?
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A bouquet is fine when it's appropriate , but when so many mistakes have been made and so much has been said, then no amount of bouquets will save it. I mean , at the very least, just don’t lie,
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just don’t air your dirty laundry on the internet, right. And right now, you understand, I realize that for a few days I won’t be checking TikTok, or Threads, or anything, because everyone will be discussing your dirty laundry, and I don't want to see it, you know?
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I didn't want this at all, and this, all of this, could have never happened, you know? But his greed for an interview with Sobchak, he just had to do that interview with Sobchak. Yeah, that’s the ultimate dream of his life.
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He just couldn't turn it down. Even though you agreed not to talk about it or air it all on the internet, that desire for popularity outweighed everything.
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Yeah. And with Sobchak, he just talked about me, I mean, about this whole situation. So we didn't learn anything new about his life.
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And he didn't answer a single question: " How were you making money? How were you earning? "There are questions, beep, on all those questions . Sorry that you'll have to beep all that out.
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Well, happy holidays. Don’t be as naive as I am. Thank you. And don't be a home-wrecker like me, either.
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Thank you so much. You're welcome, that we had this talk now. Oh, poor Lucy had to listen to all this nasty stuff we were talking about.
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