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Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. For today's guest, we have Chel San. Welcome in.
Chael Sonnen discusses MMA, personal rivalries, Brazilian culture, and life philosophies in a candid podcast episode.
Key Takeaways
- Chael Sonnen is a former MMA fighter with a complex personal and professional history.
- Despite public rivalries, there is underlying respect and camaraderie among fighters.
- Brazilian culture and cuisine are appreciated but also critiqued with humor.
- The podcast blends serious topics with humor and personal stories.
- Safety and cultural differences are important considerations when traveling internationally.
What the video covers
- Chael Sonnen introduces himself and shares his background in mixed martial arts and gang activity.
- He discusses a personal conflict with Tito Ortiz, including an incident where Ortiz said 'I hate you.'
- The conversation touches on their college wrestling days and the camaraderie that develops in combat sports.
- They explore sensitive topics such as pro-life views and philosophical thoughts on life and death.
- Sonnen addresses rumors and misunderstandings about his wrestling coaching and interactions with others.
- He shares his impressions of Brazilian culture, food (kosha), and social observations about Brazilian men and women.
- The podcast includes anecdotes about safety concerns in Brazil and personal experiences traveling there.
- There is a lighthearted and humorous tone throughout, with some playful banter between Sonnen and the host.
- Discussions also include reflections on wrestling's global status and notable figures like Hoy Gracie and Mark Schultz.
- The episode ends with promotional content and further casual conversation about fighting and social interactions.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Guest Welcome
- 01:50Tito Ortiz Rivalry and Hate Incident
- 03:39Wrestling Coaching and Rumors
- 05:29Views on Brazilian People and Culture
- 07:03Safety and Travel Experiences in Brazil
- 09:18Meeting Hoy Gracie and Wrestling Globally
- 11:38Bank Robbery Anecdote and Personal Stories
- 18:13Fighting, Social Interactions, and Closing Remarks
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Speaker A
All right. Look at that. Thanks for coming. Yeah, wouldn't miss it. For today's co-host, we have our flooring, my manager of our flooring.
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Welcome in. Our flooring. You can fit over there. You got it. All right. All right. All right. Do I got this right? This sound good?
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Yeah. Well, just put it, pull it close to your mouth like this and then introduce yourself to anybody who might not know you and all that.
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If you don't know, you should know. My name is Chel P Son Son, and the P stands for icon.
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And what do you do? Maybe some people don't know your previous career or something like that.
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Well, I am deeply immersed in gang activity. I am a gangster by trade. I used to be with the mixed martial arts. I fought for six world championships.
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And I, you know, I feel like I'm kind of a mener. You know, I get along with people really well. I wanted to ask if you would like to use this opportunity to publicly apologize to Tito Ortiz.
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Now, what is it that you see yourself as? A mangler? A mener?
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Oh, a mener. Oh, that's very sweet of you. No, Tito said something very hurtful to me.
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Tito said, and this is terrible. Like, think about trash talk. Here's what he said to me. He took a microphone. We were face to face. I don't know what's going to happen. He decided we're at this event. He
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decides he wants a minute on the microphone. So I give him the minute, he takes a microphone and he looks at me and he pauses and then he goes, "I hate you." And it wasn't like to sell a
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fight or something like this. Like he was just being sincere that he hated, he sincerely hated you.
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My mother didn't even let us use that word growing up, like she would say don't say hate is such a bad word.
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Use the h word. Don't use the h word. And he said I hate you. And I remember standing there thinking you didn't hate him.
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This is the whole thing. I'm giving you this air time. I'm giving you this moment to tell me the meanest thing that you can, which is that you hate me. No, I did not, I did not
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hate him back. No. Well, think about this. You know, just from the videos I've seen, I've never met him. He seems like he's not all there.
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So, maybe he didn't really mean it. Or maybe he did, but he didn't know how hurtful that would be to you.
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Yeah, maybe that's right. And, you know, maybe I should share our backstory with you, but we wrestled in college. Yes.
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So, like when we were kids that were aspiring to be in the UFC or something like this, we knew each other. And then the only thing you get from that sport is you get a camaraderie when it's done. Yeah.
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Like no matter how today's interview leaves, you and I will leave here as friends. That's just the way that it works. Like you just, you know, you spend this time with somebody and you get to know them.
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Pulled out a gun and shot myself. Oh, please don't hurt yourself. I don't want to see you hurt yourself.
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You thought I was going to say you, but if I did it to myself, then it'd be more interesting. Well, you wouldn't hate me, but we definitely wouldn't be friends.
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I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I'm very pro-life. I don't want anybody to die.
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Okay. Pro-life like anti-abortion. Anti-abortion. Yep. What if you know that it's not going to survive anyways?
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Oh boy. Well, I mean, I suppose that would be true. I don't mean to get philosophical. I've never been asked that one, but I suppose that's true for all of us, right? We're all ultimately not going to survive.
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No. Like in the womb, it's already like decrepit because the mother took like a hundred pills.
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Oh, that mother. No, I would not stop the life, but I did have that happen to a friend. They called it a stillborn. That was very... That's what I'm saying. They know it'll be a stillborn.
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That was tough. Well, then if it's going to happen anyway, then you let it happen and happen natural instead of speeding it up. But, um, tough spot for sure.
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What if it... We don't have to go down that path. And have you ever been accused of Lenny?
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Lenny? No, I didn't Lenny. Did he tell you that? That's what he said. I didn't Lenny.
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He didn't say to me personally. That there's a... We were wrestling. That was a... I was teaching him a move. It happened to be called a crotch lift.
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That's a very... That's an accept. Well, but I thought he could be... I thought he showed you.
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I was trying to help him. I am a wrestling coach and part of it is recruitment. And Lenny was standing there looking like a fool. And I looked at him and I said, "You know, you kind of look wiry. I think you have good flexibility.
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You might have some strength." So, I started to help him with some... I was encouraging Lenny. That's a terrible rumor that I didn't ask if you him. I asked if you were accused of ming him.
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No, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE saying that he then said, "No, I was asking if you got accused of Lenny." Oh, I thought Lenny... Oh, he didn't. Then I guess no.
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Well, now it's a little confusing like a yes. Maybe we need Lenny in here on this.
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Can you call Lenny or you got... He got some sort of order on you?
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No, he doesn't have an order on me. Okay. And what are your top three things about Brazilian people?
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My top three things? Well, jeez, I will tell you this, and I've told other people this and they've laughed, but I don't say this to be light-hearted. They have something over there called a kosha.
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You must try it if you go there. It's like sort of food. Yeah. It's awesome, though. It's deep fried. It's got like meats and cheeses inside. Then they deep fry it like a corn dog except instead of just having a
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simple hot dog or sausage, they put like meats and cheeses. It's fantastic. Um, two more.
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Yep. That's one thing. The women are very beautiful, I must say. And the men are a little bit lazy.
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Little bit. That's only two so far. That other one's an insult. Oh, did we say they had to be good things?
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Yeah, your top three things. I guess if there's only two good things and that's the top of the bad stretching it, you know, it was a nice country. But those men, boy, go around have babies with all sorts of
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people and then don't get up and go to work in the morning. I don't understand a man like that.
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I don't think they're very pro-life over there. They might be actually they're Catholic. I don't actually know.
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I mean shooting and killing each other. Oh, okay. Oh, I see. A strong value on life. Yeah, that's true in some parts.
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By the way, what's the gimmick? He's got a plate. He pretends to have a meal.
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Is that part of the show? He pretends to have a... He's my manager.
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Okay. But did he have a meal? Did he eat it? He finished it. He did. He had... He finished his steak.
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What was he eating? I think he had a potato and some steak. I think he had that Brazilian thing you were talking about where they put a piece of wood and then they put a bunch of cheese in it.
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I'm telling you, man, it's really good. It's called a kosha. You had that in Brazil?
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Yeah. Yeah, I have it in Brazil. Some people will eat it like with ketchup and mustard. I thought it would probably be pretty dangerous for you over there.
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Yeah, it probably was. I had good security when I went, but it's beautiful, man. I went to São Paulo.
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The people in São Paulo, it is... it's this incredible city. But they will like apologize for it. They'll go, "Oh, hey, if you're going to be here, you got to go to Rio. Rio is so much better." I've
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been to Rio. I like Rio. I like São Paulo better. I think the Brazilians have it wrong. I think São Paulo is a more fun place.
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I wouldn't know. I will never go there. Really? It seems like a very dangerous place.
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There's some... They might sell your fingers because over there that's worth a lot.
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Yeah, there are rules. You're not from Brazil. When I went to Brazil the first time, I was 23 and I went for...
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hotel, the guy gave us warnings. He said, "All right, as soon as it gets dark out, don't leave. Don't ever get in any car, you know, for unless I put you in. Unless somebody from this He was actually trying to make it so you
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didn't have fun. He was trying to steal your experience. Yeah. Maybe it would have been a lot more fun if you hadn't listened.
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Oh, we had a good time, man. We listen. We listened. But uh we we we we appreciated it. We appreciated the heads the heads up.
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Do you think there is a single active UFC champion who would stand a chance against you right now?
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No. No. No. No. Oh. Today's guys, you got to understand this. But you now, not you then. you right now versus them now.
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No, I'm way more dangerous now. No, first off, I'll poke you now. You come up to me now in my street clothes, I'll I I'll draw a 38 and put it in your face. Uh, no. No.
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Well, now we think that would be a very Well, but I'm just sharing if that's what you meant. And not to mention, I mean, I was juiced up then, but I'm I'm way more juiced up now.
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Oh, really? And are allowed here? I thought they weren't allowed here. Everybody I see here at the mall is insane.
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Yeah. No, we Well, you got some truth to that, but uh um I've never seen so many gay people and I'm from LA. more in in Oregon.
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Yeah. Oh, really? They do value gay. Now, I'll tell you this. I don't know if you're trying to make a joke, but I'm going to walk around. I'm not joking at all.
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I went to school at the University of Oregon that's in Eugene, about 2 hours that way. But um it is the lesbian uh there is no area stronger for lesbian per capita than Eugene, Oregon. So, yes, that would be true. Oregon uh
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maybe in America, but there's no way it beats Tel Aviv. Yeah, it's for America.
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It's an American state. Uh status. Tel Aviv. I've been there. Uh lesbians. Really? Holy Really? That surprises me.
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What? Now, not just gay. You're saying lesbians specifically in Tel Aviv? I mean, probably. Where else would they go?
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I don't I don't know. I was there. I was there. There was a bomb when I got there. I had to go hide in between walls of a building. When was this?
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At a bomb shelter. 2015ish. It's where I met Hoy Gracie. You know that name, Hoy Gracie?
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Yeah. You met in Tel Aviv in a bomb shelter. WOW. INTERESTING. I WAS HAVING breakfast and I go with my wife. We get r sirens start going. We get rushed and and like were you secretly hoping that the bomb
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would hit somewhere in Tel Aviv? You know, I was I was hoping to see a little something if I'm to be honest.
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Now, the Iron Dome did did end up striking it down and then the Israeli people dismissed it. They're like, "Ah, this small bomb, small group, no problem." But maybe if you were truly a superhero, you would have dismantled the Iron Dome.
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I'd have liked to have known about it. So the bomb could have actually hit.
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Yeah. It was impressive the way that they organized and rushed us into this this bomb shelter though right in the middle of breakfast. It was it was it was cool.
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Why were you there to begin with? Scott Coker brought us over to do a Bellator. Sold out. Huge event. The Israelis were huge into that. Israelis are very tough actually. I come from a wrestling background and every Olympic
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cycle they'll have somebody I heard that if you go to Israel you have to do a post every day on social media saying how beautiful it is. Is that true?
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No, that isn't true. But I will tell you this, uh, the Mediterranean is what that sits on. And that is the nicest, uh, water, the nicest sand I have ever seen.
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Even in postcards, I have never seen anything as white, crystal, perfectly blue. It's you see right through the ocean all the way to the bottom. It was really amazing.
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Right. I don't think of Israel as a destination largely because of all the fighting that goes on. But it is a destination. That is like where people should go on honeymoons or special events. It was beautiful. I definitely wouldn't agree,
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but I Now, have you been there? A white? No, I haven't. Okay. I was going to say you're a Catholic.
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Catholic. Yeah. Yeah. It's It's changing, I guess. But I guess there's still a lot because you're older. There's still a lot of like older guys that really love Israel.
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Yeah. I'm going to Russia next week. Interesting. So, you just don't give a about nothing.
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No, I don't. Um I do want to be smart. I I do want to be smart. And uh but no, I'm getting brought over by Putin. I mean, the actual government is bringing us over and and I'm going for a
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wrestling event, but wrestlers are treated very different in certain parts of the world. Iran is one of them.
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Russia is one of them. The government gets involved. They So, no, I think that we will be be just fine.
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Why is the government so obsessed with stalking crazy people and messing with their heads? Wouldn't they be better off doing this to smart people?
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Yeah. Yeah. That's uh You ever think about that? Yeah. No, I have never thought about that, but I I don't know that I disagree with your point.
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I always see them on Instagram and there's people following them, but they're clearly not all there. So, I start to wonder, wouldn't they be better off stalking me? And then I begin to think maybe they are.
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Yeah, they could be. But maybe they're actually sending better resources to get a hold of me.
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Yeah, that's true. I can't find them like crazy people. That's true. Well, you're very accessible, though. They could probably just just ask you to come sit down and visit with them and you probably would.
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The crazy people don't want to. The crazy people or the people following them and potentially me. Yeah. No, that could be if you outsmart them. We'll see.
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No, I'm saying but who's except who would I sit down with? I certainly wouldn't sit down with the crazy people who think they're being followed, but if somebody was following me, I would sit down with them.
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Yeah, I saw you. You sat down with someone. I can't I don't know how to say his last name. I hope you know it, but it's John. John and it's like Kiraaku.
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Yeah, John Kiryaku. Yeah, man. He got a bad deal. I'd like to be able to help him. I hope somebody does help him. He He should He should have been pardoned by now.
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I think the only problem with him not being pardoned as of now is he doesn't get his money. I think he should get his money, but that money is not free.
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He should get his freedom, too, man. He's He's innocent. I hear you on that.
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I hear you on that. I'm just saying, well, he's not completely free. A felony follows you around.
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I have a felony. It it follows you around. And he he is a You have a felony? Yeah. What did you do?
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I robbed some banks. You rob banks? Yeah. Okay. That's I don't actively rob banks.
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But why did you do that? Oh, don't make it like I'm the Wait a minute. You think I'm the bad guy in this scenario for robbing a bank?
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Banks are racist. They are predatory. They take people's houses. They take people's cars. Banks are terrible. I took from I'm the hero of this story.
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You're saying they're racist because the black people are more likely to go bankrupt or some other group or what?
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More likely to not even get banked. No. More more likely to not even get to get loans. Bank.
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That's just a smart decision. That's just the banks. I robbed bank. Did you think you were like looking down on me like I'm the jerk in the situation? Banks are terrible.
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I don't think there's anything ethically wrong or morally wrong with robbing a bank. But it's the type of people who do it says something about them. It's a more sophisticated tell you something that they say about me. They say I am like Robin Hood. Half
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a Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. I stole from the rich and then I kept it. But I'm a lot like Robin.
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But you were poor so you were definitely a hero. Well, I kept it for myself. It's a brokerage fee.
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But you were poor at the time. I was poorer then than I am now.
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So you like Robin Hood. It was very lucrative. Yeah. And and relatively easy. I got to tell you. Similarly on that, what was the toughest thing about growing up in a family that sometimes didn't make 100 grand or barely made 100 grand?
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It was tough. I remember one time that the air conditioner went out. We had to go outside and jump in the swimming pool just to cool off. Like it was horrible.
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It was it it was tough stuff. What am I going to fix? This is the plight though.
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You wonder why I turn out to choose gang life and to have felonies have to rob banks. What choice did I have? I was coming up that way. What choice did I have?
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How long did it take for the air conditioner to get fixed? Well, when my dad got home, he had a Makita drill. He He fixed it, but there was a good three hours where we had to go float around.
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He fixed it immediately. Yeah. I feel like that could happen to somebody with a billion dollars, though, right?
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Yeah, it could. Unless their dad has a Makita drill. Unless he does or doesn't.
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Well, if he doesn't, he's going to be in a lot of trouble. He's going to have to go borrow one from a neighbor. Think of how embarrassing that would be.
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Yeah, I guess that makes sense. He manages you. What's this guy manage? Viral flooring. He if you need some new rugs, he can help. He makes Flores go viral.
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Show on YouTube. He can make it go viral. Tell I don't want to stare at you and make you uncomfortable, but but you're you're you're a handsome guy with kind of a weird look. I hope you take that as
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a compliment. Like when I saw you outside, I go, "What a hand." Oh, that's the guy. That's that's who I'm coming to see. No, I appreciate it. But yeah, you got something going interesting with the hair. May I ask how old are you?
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I'm 19. Oh, are you? Okay. I told my buddy, I said, "Hey, I think he's 19." I knew you were 19 when you talked with Dominic Cruz, but it felt like that was a year ago. So, I thought maybe you were 20
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then. I think I was I think I was 17 then. But yeah, people tell me I have an interesting look. I look like a real tough fighter is what people tell me.
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Yeah. Somebody not to be messed with. What do you think of Dominic? He's smart, isn't he?
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He's a smart guy. Yeah, he's smart. Yeah, Dominic's smart. Dominic's smart. Dominic is not uh he's not socially equipped enough to not call certain things out. So, I enjoyed your guys' interview. I thought that he went after you just as much as you went after him,
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though. I thought you guys were very good together. And following up on the last question, you've made millions of dollars, but you still live in Wesley, Oregon.
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Why would you subject your son to live in such stealing so I could live in Westland, Oregon? Is that how you said that?
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No. No. You've made millions of dollars, but you still live here. Why would you subject your family and your son to live in such a dangerous, horrible place?
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And you're not looking at me like the jerk in that bank thing, right? do understand that I was the her that was a heroic thing that I did to see what they're doing and to go in and take from
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them in the bank situation. I think I think everybody's just a little wrong. But here I think it's you really not your son. I guess maybe it'll become him if he decides to make the same choice.
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I tried to bring this guy. He's a fan of yours. He couldn't believe you were coming to town. Really?
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Yeah. He wanted to meet you and so hello. Hello from my son. He's got a football game right now.
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Okay. It's his first ever game. So I'll leave here and I'll go right. They call it a jamboree but I'll go I'll go straight to the game. But he does he does say hello.
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Oh, he wanted to to be part of this. Have food there? The uh I don't know. It's my first one.
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First one. We've played flight. You don't have like uh I don't know how Oregon is. They don't have like people who sell hot dogs and Gatorade.
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No, it's at a school. And so that gets weird how you got to permit it so that that truck can pull in. I wish you stand outside. That's what they do in LA. They figured out the the permit or whatever they have to get.
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Best food you'll get is is street food. Mexican food. It tastes good, but it'll make you horribly sick.
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Yeah, sure. I mean, there's risks with everything. That's true. No, but it's not a risk. You know it.
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Yeah. You saw that Nurmagamed got knocked out earlier? I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A bit of a surprise.
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You're happy about that? No. No. Heavens, no. I wasn't happy about it. Um but uh there there's really no tyranny quite like predictability.
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And and and I only bring that to you because if if you've seen one of those guys fight, then you that's they all fight the same. And so, you know, you're going to strike a little bit until you
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come into a takedown. And the takedown isn't going to be like a blast double like St. Pierre by example. It's going to be more of a clinch and a body lock.
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And I only share that if you get enough footage on anybody. A a top guy is likely to beat him that the top guys get beat.
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He's likely to beat Normagamed. Yeah. Well, just anybody any top guy that's done it enough times so there's enough video that that somebody that understands the game can sit and study enough. If if you can watch anybody enough, then the the the predictability
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factor is really there. and fighting know it's so much an element of surprise and and I only say that like what uh what Nurmagamed did uh wasn't a surprise now.
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This is good. This is good defense. Yeah. Oh, you're doing it. You're there. I think he came out cuz you were insulting him.
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I think that's Khalib Khalib Manenov. No, no, no insult. I was I was analyzing insulting his cousin.
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I was analyzing. Yeah, but it came off like an insult. I'm sure they're not happy. He just got knocked out.
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Well, you know, sometimes you got to deal with it. You You know, you're a wolf, but sometimes you got a bigger wolf.
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What does that mean, by the way? What does what if now? What now? What now mean?
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I haven't. You seem to understand it, but I didn't. What now? Well, I think he's saying what now?
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Like, what should we do now? I thought he was saying want to now, like kind of like want to now, like you want to fight now. But I didn't really get it. He was saying what now?
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I don't know. He was just asking you where he was basically like what's now. I I assumed maybe he's actually a great philosopher.
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Yeah, he could be. Assuming he w You never answered his question. What now? What? What now?
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What now? What now? Well, I would you know, you got to get off your back. You can't win a fight from your back. You got to you got to get up.
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No, but maybe he's not asking about fighting. He's asking what is now. Yeah, sure. But don't aren't I suggest much greater question.
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I don't know. I mean, isn't isn't that largely what I'm suggesting for? I don't know.
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Why would you attack somebody asking you that question instead of telling him that? Well, no. You lost control a little bit.
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Yeah, I did. I got angry. I'll I'll try to calm down. I don't know what now.
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We'll We'll learn from him. We'll learn from him. You're not willing to enter his guard?
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No. Is that a guard? Something. Is it? Well, no. Do Do you want me to enter?
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Well, no. Do I Do I enter your Could be interesting. It could be right now. I'm going to pass for now. But thank you.
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But But thank you. I hope he's getting a good workout. Did you know in Borderlands 2, if you travel to costy caverns and make your way towards the end of the map, you can find a Minecraft Easter egg with creepers you can kill
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for special cosmetics? Yeah, I did know that. Yeah. Oh, you did? Uh-huh. Did you find that out yourself? You watched one of the videos.
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Let me ask you a question. Okay. One, the four of you. One, if this goes bad, you understand. I will dismantle all four of you. Do Do you I wasn't trying to offend you with the I'm just curious if you knew that.
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Sometimes guys don't know that. Sometimes guys don't know that and they get a little bit froggy and you can get froggy. You just can't do it in Oregon.
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I will take a lot of thing but I can't take an or you would fight us yourself one on four.
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I will dismantle no I will I will take the four OF YOU APART. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THAT BUT you know this guy's he's going to Are you Are you mad about Khalib's behavior or are you mad about the cost?
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This is a this is a disclosure much like I gave to the banks before I had to rob 12 of them. Okay.
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Okay. you you eventually Well, that's probably why you got caught. You shouldn't give any disclosure to the bait, right? Like there's some people you offer a fight to. Okay.
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There's other guys don't offer them a fight because they'll take it. He seems ready to take it. You actually turn them down.
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I understand that, but I'm just sharing that. Seems like you're somebody who doesn't. I just want to know if the group of you is aware that if I engage him, I'm just going to assume you're involved.
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This guy's getting a sidekick. This guy's getting a plate over his head. He seems like a nice guy. He's earrings coming. I don't want to peep with a guy with earrings coming.
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He doesn't have anything. Hey, right with the with the Come on. I was just wondering if you knew that.
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What now? Is he okay? This guy with the Khalib. Yeah. No, it was a good performance. It just is he all right?
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I think he wanted to fight you. Does he feel like a fool? Why would he feel like a fool? He just He just challenged you to a fight.
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It kind of undefeated. Pumped the carpet for a while and kept saying something that we couldn't understand.
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I understood it. Well, I understood what he was g getting towards. I didn't understand.
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Can he get girls that way? Like like I could go into a club if I wanted to and they go, "Hey, you're chill." Like, does anyone walk up to him and go, "You're you're that guy." They knock him and say, "Hey, you're
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chill." No, you know, you're the guy that humped the ground and said, "Want to know like want to hang out with?" Probably like a really autistic white dude would recognize him at like a weird convention and ask for a photo.
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That's But probably not any women. That's a very That's a very realistic uh answer by you. Do you think famous people should paint themselves green when they're in public so nobody notices them?
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Yeah, that's what I keep saying. I keep say that. Yes. You're not like the most famous person in the world, but you're pretty famous for Oregon. In Oregon standards, but um No, I hear what you're saying. Uh yes, I
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I I keep saying they should have to paint themselves green. They shouldn't have to, but it seems like a good idea.
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No, they should have to. It should be forced. They should have to. Yes. But then if they have to, then it won't work as a trick anymore, right? Well, I No, I think it should be mandated. If you don't do it and you
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pass them, we should be able to go right up to them and Well, you're saying them if you're not one of them. You would have to be green, too.
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Yeah, that's right. That just evens things out, man. I I used to go out, I'd have like ripped t-shirts on and things like this. That was just sportsmanship.
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Did you know you can bring a gun to the airport as long as it's under 700 calories?
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No. I saw a sign on the way here when I was flying here. Okay.
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He said the guy is okay to bring as long as it's under 700 cal.
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Wow. Oh, I see. H I would not suggest you try that. Take a gun to the airport, but you just got to check it. You got to check the gun.
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That's if it's over 700 calories. If it's over 700 calories. That's right. Yes. Or has more than 11.
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Wouldn't the airplane actually be much safer? It's kind of like the school argument with the teachers. If everybody had a gun, cuz then if there's one terrorist and everybody just starts shooting shooting fire at each other, everybody will end up safe in the end
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besides the terrorist. That's exactly how it would go. It would be a guess. I mean, it would be a g we wouldn't actually know. I mean, that would be an experiment, but in in theory, it would seem that if if more
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people had guns, then the guy with the gun definitely loses power. I I wouldn't understand that.
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But on an airplane. Yeah. On an airplane specifically. Yeah. No, I hear you. I I I don't really get the airplane thing. I got to tell you, I I uh if I was on one of those planes, you know, I was a terrible spot, but me
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and my buddy would have taken control back of that plane. You would have stopped 9/11.
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Yeah. I don't I don't get it. You got some poor guys with a box cutter, so you all sit down. You call home. You know this is the end.
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Did he not have a gun? Did they not have a gun? They just had a box cutter.
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Four or five box cutters. Oh, I thought they had guns were just poor guys yelling in a language that wasn't totally understood.
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They made them pick up a phone and call, "Hey, we're going to die. We're going to die. Here's what's going to happen." They knew they were going to die, but they would rather die in a fiery crash than
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Maybe everybody on the plane was just inoperative and they knew that it had to go down.
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Man, there's times you got to leave. Not everybody has that in them. Not everybody. It's very sad.
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I know it was a national tragedy. For sure. For sure. By the way, the the Kabib, does he come back in at some point and apologize?
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Uh-huh. Does he come back for what? You should apologize. You wasted his time. You were talking about his cousin.
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You said, "Look at his cousin. He got knocked out." But you said, "Would you like to enter his guard?" I was that a guard. What made that a guard? Cuz he was on his back.
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He would have submitted you. I think I understand that. But I'm just saying if he had a guard, what made it a guard?
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He does I think. Right. Don't be funnier than me. He does I think. Right.
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That's good work. That's funny. Three protect you. The rest hunt you down. He does sombo. I think Darth Vader, Terminator, Punisher, Deadpool. Oh god.
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10 crocodiles. Red Power Ranger. Michael Jackson, Larry Lobster. Well, easily uh Deadpool is the leader of of that bunch to protect you.
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Uh just the he was the tough one. So what were the three categories? No, the rest three protect you. The rest hunt you down.
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Okay, so three to protect me. I definitely want Deadpool protecting me. Um 10 crocodiles.
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I don't want the crocodiles. I don't like their form of communication. I I I I Yeah, I feel that Darth Vader though would do better with with communication.
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They'll outnumber him. Yeah, I understand that. But I just I got to tell you, I'm not, you know, and then they got to be in the water and they sleep a lot and, you know, they hump their sister. I'm not into a
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crocodile. I don't really want them on my team. You know, there's an easy way to defeat them. You throw sand into their mouth.
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Have you ever seen those videos? No, they can't stand it. No, they can't. You take a shovel and you smash them on the head. So, they open their mouth, train you, and you throw sand in their mouth.
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And then they get upset because they know you've I want to see a video of that.
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Kind of insulted them. Okay. But then what happens? Like like they're doing one of these thing like they're trying to get the sand out of their mouth or it poisons them. Like why does that stop them?
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It's disrespectful. Then they leave. Yeah. It's disrespectful as hell to throw sand in an alligator's mouth. I a shovel worth of sand. It's like two lbs of sand.
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Can I tell you something that happened to me last night and I am so disappointed.
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Someone threw sand into your mouth. Worse. Much worse. The lion is not the king of the jungle.
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As a matter of fact, it is believed in arguments that a tiger would kill a lion. How disappointing is that? It's argued that a pack of wolves would kill a lion.
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I think you're trying to just insult Tito because didn't he say that whole thing where he's the king of the jungle?
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He's like a lion or something. Yeah, man. Well, I'm a real trying to sneak it in there. Lion. No, but I'm an I'm from Weslin High School.
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We are lions. But I'm just sharing. He can be the king of the jungle. But I I am not disrespecting a lion. I thought the lion was king. I truly am. We We are the lions. But yeah, I found out all
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sorts of things can be a lion. It's very disappointing. Is it racist to not have a black mother?
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Oh, that's brilliant. DID JOHN GET DID DID KURYAKU GET asked these things? Much worse. We had him We had him hurt somebody.
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Did he? Really? You asked him these things? Yes. You don't respect him because he was in the CIA. You asked him these things.
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This isn't disrespectful. This is very interesting questions that you wouldn't be asked anywhere else.
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Yeah. Okay. All right. You're giving a much more interesting, thoughtprovoking experience. Okay. But hold on. as opposed to like talking to I don't know Ariel Helwani or something.
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You really did ask Kiraako that kind of a question. I thought you said you WATCHED IT.
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I WATCHED SOME OF THE VIDEO. I DIDN'T SEE the entire the entire piece. I watched If you watched one minute, you would know that I asked him stuff just as that.
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Okay. Is it racist to not have a black mother? I'm going to say no.
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What if she's made of blocks like you just said? Blocks? To have a block mother?
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Yeah. Uh, no. I'm going to say no. And can I tell you why? That would be pretty cool though. You could assemble her like a Lego. Yeah, that'd be nice. You can take her down.
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Yeah be Can you help him? He's not really succeeding. It's kind of taking him a long time.
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Oh, are you working on a block mother? You're doing good. What's this? Can I see this? I don't want to break it. Is that a spider?
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1 2 3 4 5 6. I think that's his mother. I think it's a spider.
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No, I believe that's his mother. Well, it's got eyes and a mouth and and eight legs, arms.
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Finish what you're saying. Uh, no. I I will tell you why though. I will justify this re ridiculous argument. Uh I will justify it because when I was growing up, now you're too young for this, but when I was growing
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up, it was never uh racist. It there was an an option. You were racist or ignorant. But they would always put them together. Never ever ever would you go, "He's a racist." They would say, "He's a racist or he's ignorant." Because a lot
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of times it was just the guy that was ignorant where the guy goes, "Oh, I hadn't thought about it like that. I don't have that stance." But there but but it was but both of those were tied in to another word which was prejudice.
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I would grift as ignorant which was to mint prejudge. So you you were not when I was growing up you were not called a racist unless the way out was ignorance but it all was to led to prejudice which is to
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prejudge. So if you did not prejudge somebody which I don't think you would prejudge your mother whether or not she was black. So I'm going to say no.
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Well we're not asking we're not asking what a brilliant answer by you're misunderstanding. We're not asking if your mother would be racist for not being black, right? Would I be?
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Would you be racist if she's not black? That was the question. And I'm saying no. The answer is no. Because I would not have prejudged that.
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I gave a very sophisticated answer. I got to That was pretty good. It wasn't bad. You know, it wasn't bad.
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I should have saved that for somebody else. I'm trolling a troll. Like this is a hard role that I'm in, right? This is a hard Well, no. I like I feel like I feel like I'm doing the dance. Yeah.
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I don't want you to come out here for nothing. We're doing the dance. Yes.
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What a beautiful set. This is like the set that a poor man would have. Are these sheets like from your A poor man?
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Yeah, like a poor expensive these cost to get up. No. Uh-uh. I had to get the biggest piece of building to fit this inside of ever.
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People think this is a lowquality thing. I had to make sure there's like small white lights.
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All right. How long did this stay? Do you make good money doing this? He makes good money from me doing this.
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Are you Are you rich? Are you rich? He's rich, not me. All right. Would you be upset if you turn into a burger?
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Yeah, I'd be furious. Yes. No, you wouldn't. Yes, I would. It's a trick question.
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Somebody would eat me. You wouldn't be upset. You know what happens after they eat you? Like, you know, I mean, ultimately, you're asking me if I turn into somebody's No, I don't want to be a burger.
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You're wrong, though. You would be a gangster. No. Yeah, I would be upset. No, you wouldn't.
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Why? How would you be upset? You're a burger. It's a trick. Yeah, I guess there's no brain. So, I wouldn't know, you're saying. All right, fine.
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Well, why wouldn't you know? Obviously, if you turn into a burger, I'm assuming you still have some sort of conscious thing. So, you would be upset then, probably.
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I would be upset if I knew I was going to turn into a burger. Yes. I would say I don't want to turn into a burger.
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No, you turned into one. I didn't ask if you knew you were going to.
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That makes it easier to know you'd be upset. Yes. And I wouldn't have the ability to be upset. Fine. Fine.
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You would, but because I'm asking obviously assuming I mean, it's a stupid question. Otherwise, it would be a trick to ask it the other way.
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Yeah. I'm I'm still I'm still going with no. All right. I mean, I'm still going with yes. Yes. I would be upset, but you wouldn't be because you wouldn't know.
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How did you tell me? How would you know what old shale would be? Wouldn't this Wouldn't I be the final say in this? I say I would be upset. That's it.
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No, that's not how that works at all. Why? You could have You could have a say. It would just be wrong cuz you would be a burger.
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By the way, you wouldn't have a say at that point. Otherwise, I'm sure you'd be upset.
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Maybe you'd be happy. I don't want to make a thing about this, but I came in and I asked for something to drink.
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Yeah. Do you not have Coke? Is there no Coca-Cola back here? You don't have Mountain Dew?
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We're healthy. You went to the store and you bought water, but they the water's in a faucet.
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You don't have to buy a professional fighter. But they look at his physique. But a bottle of water.
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Yeah. Just get a cup and get it out of the sink. Why are you Why would you buy water?
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It'll make you gay to drink it out of the sink. A plastic bottle. No, that will turn you into a bottle.
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All right. Okay. How would you know? It happened before. They did tests on it.
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No, because it happened before. That's good. All right. Professor Alex, you familiar with his work?
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No. He's down in Austin, I believe. Really? Truly? Yes. What's his last name? Jones.
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Is it true that you don't have to pay your lawyer if they go missing?
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Well, I will tell you this, and you might find this funny. You do not ever have to pay a lawyer. You don't have to ever pay anybody.
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I'm sure a lawyer would be really excited to hear that. A lawyer is the one that told my friend this. Now, this is disappointing. I look down on my friend. My friend is totally wrong. But my friend was in this thing.
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He he was in a dispute with his manager, MMA fighter, very famous MMA fighter.
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I'll keep his name. I got to keep his name out of it. So, he goes to the lawyer, initial letter and the last initial letter and the ones in between.
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You'll want this point. You'll want this point. Okay. The lawyer tells my friend cuz my friend owes the money. He's like, "Look, we got a contract. You got a deal. You shook his hand. Your word's good or not." And
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my friend goes, "Yeah, but what if what if I just don't pay him?" And my So, the lawyer go, "Okay, so you you're going to be wrong. You're willing to be wrong." My friend goes, "Yeah, but but what if?
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What happens?" The lawyer goes, "Well, you don't have to pay your bills in America. It is not a crime anywhere to not pay a bill. My friend because of that speech didn't pay the lawyer. Stiff the lawyer. And when the lawyer came
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after the money, he goes, "Hey, you told me yourself I don't have to pay bills." Did he end up having to pay him?
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No, he stiffed him. He stiffed him. And then the lawyer lived in some other state. So, and my friend had had learned like about putting leans and property leans and so the lawyer wasn't qualified to do it. No, he stiffed him. He sent
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him a bill. I think might have a tough time getting a loan from the bank. Hey, but the bank doesn't have any money anymore.
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He told me this story and then a couple of years later tried to borrow money from me. It's like I can't borrow money to a guy that bragged about not paying money back.
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Why didn't the lawyer just asked to borrow money from him and then do the same Sure. Sure.
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Maybe that was a little too obvious. Yeah. How many dogs do you think you would be able to defeat at once?
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Assuming obviously this is like a a fight like a sanctioned fight. Yeah. Yeah. I understand somewhere deep in Russia probably. They used to do this with gorillas. This came out like a year ago.
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A person versus a 100 gorillas or something. No, it was 100 people versus a gorilla, but I think the number was more like you only need like I think between 10 and 30 people first. I'd want to be first. All
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these guys said they sit and they'd lay back and wait till the gorilla was tired. I'd jump on that grill, man. I'd jump up his ass. He wouldn't do a damn thing to me. I think actually even if
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you had 40 people and you only needed 30, if somebody like you immediately jumped at the gorilla, that would probably completely destroy the odds that would be in the favor of the humans versus the gorilla because the gorilla
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would rip you in half and then everybody would be horrified. I watched a gorilla fight uh a wolf yesterday, a pack of wolves and and the gorilla had a very hard time. I mean, ultimately he got tired, but the fight
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got called off. But I mean, he had a hold of a wolf. Like they say that a gorilla will grab you and he'll just pull you apart. I was like, well, he was pulling on this wolf and nothing
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happened. I can tell you that. Then he started bashing him on the ground and the wolf jumped up and ran away repeatedly. I was like five different times this gorilla and this and he was I don't know, man. I don't know. I got to
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tell I whipped that gorilla's ass. Do you remember when this was going around? I'm sure I'm sure you're famous enough as a fighter to get that to happen somewhere in the world. If you really want to try it out,
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I'll fight the gorilla. They used to have this thing called Bingo the Wrestling Bear. It was at a bar in Stillwater, Oklahoma. And $500 to pin Bingo the wrestling bear. My coach, Mark Schultz, not only pinned the bear, he
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choked the bear out. Mark Schultz choked that bear out and the bear let out a groin and then Mark turned him over and pinned him and they refused to pay him.
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The barer didn't have the money. He didn't think anyone was going to pay. What was the IMDb rating?
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It wasn't videoed. This was like in-house only, but there was enough people there. Real I thought you meant this was like an episode of a show.
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BINGO THE WRESTLING BEAR. He was a real bear. They brought him in. They put like a muzzle on him and they like covered his hands. Then you could go out there and wrestle him. Mark Schultz, who was the Olympic champion, took the
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You're lying and you're making this up on this call. This is actually very impressive. Could not make this real quickly. This is real. Mark Schultz is one of these guys that I look up to. He was the Olympic champion. His his
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brother is very famous. His name was Dave Schultz. He got killed by the the billionaire John Dupont. I don't know if you remember that. John Dupont murdered a guy and then went and hid in his house. But John Dupont had a tank and he
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had he had trained the snipers for the police, the very police department that's like trying to get him. So, they were all scared. They all stayed outside the house. They thought like DuPont was going to pick him off. It turned out
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DuPont was crazy and had no idea they were even out there. Uh but anyway, this this is all Schultz and he pinned Bingo the wrestling bear. And I'm only sharing with you if Mark Schultz can choke a bear out, me and 100 of my friends will
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whip that gorilla's ass. Yeah, but you said the bear had a muzzle on and his hand cover. It changes the story a little bit, right? Yeah. Cuz it was not a fight to the death. BUT BUT EITHER WAY, if there was a position cuz
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everybody just argues it's the strength. The strength of the gorilla. St. Pierre like went out and saw these things and the silver bar gorilla. I'd kick that silver back gorilla right in his nuts.
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I'll poke his eyes out. I would kill that gorilla. I would kill the gorilla.
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I would if I can get 1% of the money this generates on like Yeah, whatever the I don't know what the website's called where they show horrible videos. Sure, I will help set this up. And you could definitely do this somewhere in Russia
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or like China, something like that. Death. What is that? Oh. All right. So again, this is this came out about 2 years before you were born. Uh it was just actual where people run around had videos of people dying
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and then they put it together into a a movie, but it was real. Like a guy stepped in front of a train, this guy got hit by a bus, you know, security cameras picked it up. It was it was
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real. It was actual death and they filmed it and put it I never would have watched. Had I known what I was getting into, I mean, it warped me for life. And this is well over 30 years ago. Right at
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30 years ago. Uh of And they put out like three of them. And then the government even came in and banned them.
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You can't find this movie anymore. They used to be movie stores. You're also too young to know that. But they pulled them off the shelf. It was It was They put these physical discs in like Blockbuster.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. Blockbuster. I don't know if you would remember that. Yes, 100%.
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I think that was around right around when I was born probably for a couple years later.
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And this is before Netflix. This is before streaming. This is before no matter what you Well, now you can for sure find those.
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I'm sure all of those compilations are just online. They're probably on Twitter right now. Yeah, you're probably right. You're probably right.
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Elon Musk would probably pay you to watch it. Yeah, it's part hard to hide that stuff.
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Have you met him? Elon? No, but uh I respect him, you know, for somebody so big. It's very impressive how good he is at playing video games.
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It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. That man is in terms of And by the way, who thought that he would be a culture warrior for the US? You you've got a guy from uh South Africa.
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You actually are being serious. Oh, I've been blown away. I have been blown away by him and one thing about him when he breaks things down and he was doing this with rockets many years ago.
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Uh but he was beating NASA and he was beating NASA badly and it was just the way that he broke it down like what some of those metals and things cost were so high that if you didn't have government
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funding you're just going to do it. And Elon cut all those prices by a third.
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And they're saying how how are you getting people to sell to you? And Elon goes to buy from them. These guys don't control the market. There's nobody else.
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I don't know if I even feel this is more impressive than becoming the greatest player in Diablo. Do you know how hard that is to do?
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Yeah. The last time I mentioned a video game to you, you started threatening to hurt everybody in the building for whatever reason.
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I was just sharing I was the greatest things about each other. I thought you should know I have a 38 in my boot.
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That's the whole reason I wear a boot. I thought you should know that I have a switchblade. I just thought that you should know this. I wasn't threatening you with it. I was letting you know. Why would you need a switchblade to deal
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with with us? I feel like you don't need that really. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. And see, that's where things get ugly. That's the problem when somebody makes that reach, right? It's like my father told me, you
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don't ever pull a gun unless you're ready to kill a guy. And I've never been ready. I don't want I don't want to hurt anybody, right? You know, this guy's got some silverware and this guy's playing like he's got, you know, it's a thing. I just
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I didn't know what I was walking into. I'm just letting you know you're in the presence of a gangster. You should know that. enough silverware to eat you with your hands.
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No. Hey. Hey, hold on. You got to hear this. You know Armon Serukian? Yeah.
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Okay. Do you know Sneo? Like a You do? I have them both on my show.
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Okay. I don't know how this came about. somewhere Arman just starts giving advice to Sneo about getting girls and Armen tells him cuz they they read like a Starbucks and and Sneo got like you know something with with with apple
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cider and matcha and then he was like sprinkles on top with some whipped whatever it was and Arman told him if you ever with a girl you get coffee black or you get two shots espresso black no matcha no no sprinkles like he
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says it like this like he's just no matcha and then he tells him when it's time to order. You order meat, no sides.
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When the meat comes, medium rare, and when it comes, you eat with hands. And Sne, I just want to say real quick, I like how you're confusing Sneo for another guy because they're both brown and you probably don't even know who the other
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guy is, cuz this wasn't just Sneo. I had the foggiest idea. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Neon. His name's Neon.
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Okay. I like how you confused them, though. Easily confused. One word. Yes. Okay. So, Neon then says, you know, like I could do it. Like, hey, thanks for the advice, Armen. I can do I'd get the steak medium well. And Arman
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says, "No, medium rare." And Steve goes, "Well, but I like it medium well." And Armen slams his hand down AND GOES, "IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU LIKE. THIS IS TO IMPRESS GIRL OR YOU'RE NEVER going to get girl." It was one of the great
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things that has ever been picked up on a live stream. And if Arman Serukian would just please, please do a little segment each week of giving guys advice on how to get a girl. I'm tell it was one of
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the great things I've seen. If you were to fight long neck, what would be the most effective move considering he is a black belt in boxing?
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Yeah, I saw him. Yeah. Um, consider that. WELL, IT'S A LONG NECK, BUT HE IT'S A muscular neck, by the way.
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No, it's not. I THOUGHT, MAN, I FELT LIKE HE HAD absolutely no muscle, let alone on his neck on his whole body.
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He had a little bit of traps right here. I thought he looked like he had I thought like he looked like he secretly had a strong neck. I really I really did think that.
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But what would the best way to beat him be? Probably just get a hold of him. Get a hold of him.
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Well, he's a black belt in boxing. Yes. Well, that's what I'm saying. Let him use a little of his energy. Squirm around. Um those boxers, they they they they tend to think twice.
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Yeah. You know, sometimes you got to you got to do something to give a guy a little motivation to see it your way. Just grab a hold of him. No need to hurt anybody.
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Well, that's it. We have to film. I like that you're pro- life, though, by the way. Were you nervous to Are you going to edit that out? Do you not want the pro life part? Yeah.
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No, I I say that I'm very scared to put that out. I'm pro uh I've talked about it actually a bunch. I'm pro eugenics.
Speaker A
Sure. We had this which is sort of pro-life if you think about it, but like not not pro eugenics in the way that lets people choose it. Like pro like government forced eugenics forcing I guess people like your wife to have
Speaker A
children. Okay. All right. All right. I get it. I get it. I I I will tell you this. we just had right here in Oregon and we have some things that are just confusing where you'll hear somebody's politics
Speaker A
and you'll just turn your head to the side and and think what like it'll be it'll be so out there it's hard to respond to. But we just had a thing in Oregon. I mean we ju just three weeks
Speaker A
ago and they were going to ban all hunting and fishing. And one thing that we're we're very proud of in the Northwest is is our ability to hunt and fish, right? I mean we've got the oceans, we've got the forest, we got
Speaker A
another few mountains that you can go ski on. We have a little bit of everything. g great campgrounds and hiking. Very low crime. Like there's things that we're proud of.
Speaker A
Sounds like a horrible, dangerous place. Yeah, but that's one of our our things though, like you know, if you're in the Northwest, you know, that that's one of the things you can go out and catch your own supper that night. At any rate,
Speaker A
okay, so they they tried to pass this thing to where you couldn't do that anymore. It was just bad for the fish. You know, hey, this poor fish has to die or this this deer has to die. And but we are one
Speaker A
of the most pro-choice states in America. And I've never understood how you reconciled that. H how do you save the fish and justify killing the baby?
Speaker A
If I was to play the contrarian, I feel like there's a really easy answer to Please tell me. I would genuinely like to hear and I'm not afraid to be wrong.
Speaker A
Tell me something. Cuz they're transgender. Keep going. Help me out. That's the answer. Think about it.
Speaker A
I'm trying. I'm trying. I can't tell if you because I I I would I I've asked them on the streets. They were taking petitions and I stopped said, "Excuse me. I'm not trying to start an argument.
Speaker A
How do you reconcile these two things?" and it was stunning to me. Now, you'll get a guy like me that's extremely pro-life, but for the death penalty. So, I I get that there's sometimes there's contrarian views, but that one is that
Speaker A
one has always stumped me. Okay. Well, that's it. We have to film with Long Neck now. He's the next guest.
Speaker A
IS HE HERE TODAY? YEAH. I'D LOVE to meet Long Neck. Show him out to Weslin. I mean, after the show, you can show him around. Maybe give him some training.
Speaker A
How are we going to do? Was the show good? I want to do big numbers. I'm seeing your numbers. Doing a million.
Speaker A
Are we going to do a million? A billion. Do we have enough hot spots?
Speaker A
Do we get enough stuff in here? I mean, I'll fight Khabib if it helps. If it helps with the radiance, you can bring him back out IF YOU'LL FIGHT.
Speaker A
YEAH, I WILL FIGHT HIM IF IT HELPS WITH THE RATINGS. IF IT'S good for ratings, me and Kabib are getting Please bring out Khalib Manenov. You're saying his name wrong.
Speaker A
What is it? Khalib Manenov or something. We're saying the same thing. No, you said Khalib and I'm saying Khabib.
Speaker A
It's It's basically the same thing. I think you're getting it wrong. All right. Can we get out Khalib, please?
Speaker A
Khalib, we got to make sure that we get enough ratings here because we're in competition with perhaps Alex Jones. So, if you could just go down. All right.
Speaker A
You asked me, "Do I want to know?" The answer is yes. I want to now. Okay. You got to shake hands. It's required. Okay.
Speaker A
There you go. I was thinking OF A OKAY, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD. YES. YES. NOW, WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT DO we do if we get a submission? Do like do you know enough about this to to to tap
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