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Just give me what the switch of rubber St. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, did it to him. Yeah, very nice. Yeah, yeah, you always got to trap with your pocket stamp. Dude, I'm the head stamper, you know what I mean? If I didn't have a stamp, I mean, you know where this campaign would be. Well, see, you can't really do a better intro than that. Oh my God, I freaking love it. Mr. Cohen, how are you doing? Doing, I'm really good. Oh, I love it. Yeah, yes, yes, we stamp your balls off. Oh man, it's a lovely day in New York. Um, it is. I just had fun actually watching you speak. It was amazing because I was like, I know he's gonna give us one, and the first thing when I heard the [ __ ] is [ __ ] up, I was like, we're ready, we're ready, he's here. So tell me kind of the mental process behind, out of everything you've done, what gets you to that point? Like, do you just wake up in the morning and something happens, or you see something on the street just like, you know what, this is some [ __ ] I need to change this? Like, what is that, you know what I mean? It's really interesting that this particular campaign came out of my experience with Occupy Wall Street. I was very inspired by Occupy Wall Street. I spent some time there at Zuccotti Park, and, you know what I mean, Occupy Wall Street was incredibly successful in the first few weeks. I mean, in the first few weeks, yes, they changed the national conversation about inequality, and that conversation is still going on today. Yes, yes it is. I mean, they did what, you know, I don't know, tens, hundreds of nonprofit advocacy groups were trying to do for the last 10 or 20 years, which is get this issue into the public debate, and they did it in two or three weeks on like no money. Yeah, so, so, yeah, that was crazy. So during that time, in the beginning, there were tens of millions of Americans that were very, very supportive of what was going on, but the problem was, you know, they were never going to end up occupying some park, and they were never going to be in a demonstration or whatever. And I wanted to find a way for people across the country to demonstrate their support for Occupy Wall Street, and I came up with this idea of stamping money, you know, which is inspired by a project called Where's George that's been stamping money for 15 years, and another project called Occupy George, which were some people that were stamping money in support, and, you know, and then as Occupy continued and it started to be a whole lot less focused and it started to be everybody and anybody protesting anything. Exactly. Yeah, you know, I felt like there was a real need for focus, and, you know, when you go through the initial list of demands, the grievances, you know, the common denominator amongst the huge majority of them is money and politics, that it's money in politics that's causing all the problems that Occupy Wall Street was talking about. And so I decided to focus a money stamping campaign on, amazing, getting money out of politics as one part of a huge movement that sprung up to overturn these Supreme Court decisions. So what is that turning point and tick that makes you want to be that guy that says, you know what, I'm going to be the person that focuses that, that brings it together? Because many people do the whole, well, someone needs to change something, but there's never that person saying, I'm going to be the guy or girl to stand up. You know, you, you know, I know exactly what you're saying. I mean, I keep on thinking about that beautiful song, Waiting on the World to Change. Yes. And that's just it, they're [ __ ] waiting on the world to change. They need to be changing the world. Exactly. No one wants to stand up. Yeah. So, you know, I mean, for me, it's the way I can be most comfortable and live with myself, you know what I mean? Seeing all these problems, seeing all this inequity, seeing all this injustice, I have a hard time just saying, oh man, isn't that a shame? I need to do something about it. That's what makes me feel better. That's what makes me feel fulfilled. That's what makes me feel happy. Yeah, you know what I mean? In the midst of all this [ __ ] that's [ __ ] up, I'm out of happiness. I'm working to try to improve the situation. Exactly. That I get happiness from that. You need to get happiness from that. I mean, you can't be just bummed that [ __ ] is [ __ ] up. You can't just be fun. No, you gotta be happy that we're getting the [ __ ] unfucked up. Yes, that's true. That's true. So with that mindset, you know, we talk a lot about good and positivity and things like that, and we always try to focus away from the negative, but I always tell people you can find gold in the negative because that's when you really make your true important choice. What pisses you off just on a daily basis? Like, what is something that just goes, you know what, I just want to throw something right now? And then what do you do after that? You know, Ferguson pisses me off. You know, that's big. That's huge. What else? You know, I mean, well, the overriding thing that pisses me off every day of the year is that our government is continuing to spend six or 700 billion dollars a year on weapons to kill people when they, if they would just spend, you know, I don't know, 25% of that money to help people, exactly, you know, to help meet some basic human needs, we'd have a lot fewer enemies in the world, and our people here would be growing, developing, getting educated. I mean, if we spent more money on education than we did on jails, maybe that would help a little. You know, yes, it would. Yes, it would. So what are the things that decompress you or calm you down, or that you have to find those things within yourself with everything that you do? How do you find your own escape? How do you just say, I gotta make Ben happy right now? Personally, I like stamping money. Keep it in your pocket. You got to be ready. It's really good. It's really cathartic. It's fun. Yeah, that's cool. So waking up in the morning, what's the first thing that comes to mind just as soon as you get out of bed, outside of stamping money, because I know that's one? Watermelon. I like to eat watermelon. Water morning. The first thing that comes to mind? Well, usually it's, what am I supposed to do today? You know, what's on the list? And feed the dog. Yeah, yeah. You know, sometimes I put a roll into the player piano machine. That's fun. You know what I mean? You get to sing. Singing is really good for your mental health. Yes, it is. It is. And, you know, play your piano. You need a pump at the same time you're singing. It's kind of like aerobic exercise. Very true. Very true. What else? Oh, well, sometimes I say, well, maybe I'll slide downstairs today because I have a slide in my house that goes, dude, seriously, I tell you, it's the only way to fly. I mean, it's a beautiful way. It's very, very efficient. It's a very efficient way of getting... Wait, when am I invited, man? I need to stamp and slide, man. Come on down. Yeah, come on up. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, we go up and down. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. I love it. Yeah, yeah. You know, sometimes the slide is kind of right outside my bathroom, you know, in my bedroom, and, you know, sometimes I think, well, I should just kind of hang some towels down the slide so I get out of the shower and it kind of drives you off like you're going through a car wash. Okay, okay. And then, you know, put my clothes at the bottom of the slide, but I haven't gotten there yet. Okay. If you had to have someone narrate the last 30 years of your life, who would it be, and what do you think the first five words they would say? It would be Jerry, my partner. All right, all right. And it would be, it was an unbelievable ride. Nice. Nice. Incredible ride. I like that. Well, Ben, I'm gonna let you go. This was awesome. Hopefully I can talk to you on the floor. I need to go get myself a stamp. You absolutely need to get yours.
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