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Greetings, dear friends. And today, my guest is once again technology specialist and founder of the Bastyon platform, Daniel Sachkov. Hello.
Daniel Sachkov discusses global internet control, censorship, and the future of secure communication amid rising surveillance and geopolitical tensions.
Key Takeaways
- Global internet control is intensifying under the pretext of cybersecurity and patriotism.
- Personal messaging apps are becoming the primary focus for surveillance and censorship.
- Russia serves as a leading example of comprehensive digital control and surveillance.
- Decentralization and secure communication adoption are crucial but underutilized by the public.
- Proactive individual action is necessary to prepare for increasing digital restrictions.
What the video covers
- Daniel Sachkov and Alexey discuss the global trend of internet fragmentation and increased censorship under the guise of cybersecurity and patriotism.
- They highlight the redefinition of cybersecurity as protection from independent opinions online rather than just data security.
- The conversation emphasizes the growing control over personal messaging apps as the next battleground for freedom of speech.
- Russia is identified as a testing ground for digital surveillance and control, with examples like Telegram blocking and centralized systems.
- Sachkov criticizes the victim mentality and calls for proactive decentralization and adoption of secure communication tools.
- The discussion touches on the fragmentation of social media platforms like YouTube and TikTok to control information flow.
- The importance of personal responsibility in preparing for increased digital control and surveillance is stressed.
- They mention the limitations of current decentralized platforms and the slow adoption by the masses.
- The conversation also covers broader dystopian concerns about future restrictions on basic amenities linked to data center operations.
- Sachkov encourages viewers to act now and not rely on passive protest or naive beliefs about geopolitical conflicts.
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Hello, Alexey. Greetings to the viewers. Well, we haven't seen each other for a while, and it's time, so to speak, to break down all the important news related to the current state of affairs in the world, in the country, and so on.
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And today we see that it is as if one powerful hand has seized all spheres of life and is implementing the exact same policy in different countries. And right off the bat, I want to recall the recent statement by Spanish Prime
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Minister Pedro Sánchez, in which he unveiled plans to control the internet and, in essence, reduce the protection of freedom of speech. That is, censorship in one form or another, and some kind of restrictions, we see them operating all over the world, just in
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different ways. Let's perhaps start with this question. How do you see the development of this destructive policy around the world? And where, in what actions, perhaps, of the regulatory bodies? And in terms of technology, you see restrictions there too. So let's
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develop this question at the beginning, please. Well, first of all, this is certainly not news, the fact that they will try to cut the internet into pieces and make these pieces as controlled as possible. Many have been talking about
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this for a long time, I think, myself included. And I recorded a stream, I believe it was at the end of '24, that is, it was New Year's, '24 to '25,
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where I voiced that I found some documents—not that I found them, they are publicly available—where it was described that the global trend, this was a think tank, I've already forgotten which one, maybe Rockefeller's, well, the one that dictates the agenda, so to speak. And
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it was very clearly described there that the concept of cybersecurity must be redefined. It is not data security, but the security of people from influence, opinions, and independent opinions on the internet. That is, roughly speaking, from you and me. That
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is, cybersecurity must be redefined. Accordingly, plus or minus, cybercriminals are, well, this is an assumed evolution until the year 2030.
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That is, not only will they fight freedom of speech, naturally, they won't say they are fighting freedom of speech. That's bad PR. They will do it under the rubric of, well, anti-war censorship, or this kind of censorship.
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And most importantly, that is, the patriotic agenda, as well as the cybersecurity agenda. And in this regard, well, of course, roughly the same thing is being done everywhere, but not at the same pace. I will say this: judging by what is being done in
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Russia, a verdict has actually been issued, and they are using everything there. That is, somewhere one thing is used, somewhere another, but in Russia, they are just hitting them with everything possible. Cybersecurity will be redefined. And in general, I believe
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that the next round of the struggle will, of course, be at the messenger level. I mean, I think that in order to move forward, they need to cut off communications. And freedom of speech, social networks are an important
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element. The video tells it all. But the main element that people don't realize is how much more important it is in the global game—it's messengers, it's your personal correspondence.
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And here, it seems to me, people are making colossal mistakes. That is, it’s one thing, let’s say, for us, we are public figures, so our opinions are more or less known, but people are just massively using messengers that
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are tied to a phone number. And, accordingly, sooner or later, this will all be in one file. And there is no need to think that America and Russia are enemies. I don't know if there are any naive people left who truly believe
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that they are at war. Seriously? Seriously. But, of course, information tends toward consolidation. There is such a law of information. It tends to consolidate, it will always tend to do so if it is stored centrally. Therefore, these moments you are talking about,
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the assault on freedom of speech, all that is already like yesterday's news; one could say that their goal has been partially achieved, yes, because, for example, on YouTube there is partial censorship, and people apply self-censorship. They’ve wiped out
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some of the most zealous ones, and they are trying to fragment things. For instance, they are trying to make sure you don't watch YouTube in Russia, and they took TikTok and fragmented it, gave it in America, say, to the
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pro-Israel lobby, for example. They are trying to fragment it; they don't dare to ban it outright, as they understand it would go too poorly. But they are trying to fragment it, plus there is a lot of cacophony, noise, a lot of all
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sorts of paid-off bloggers who are constantly trying to create some kind of disturbance. They raise a question, like, well, not everything is so unambiguous, maybe it's like this, and they start to confuse people. So this stage is behind us, and we have been
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observing it for a long time. But what I see now, and what people haven't grasped yet, is that personal correspondence will be brought under control. Why, for instance, in the Russian Federation—well, I used to say China was a testing ground for a
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digital concentration camp, but today, it’s definitely Russia. Russia has already faced this, yes, with [the] Maska [system], the blocking of Telegram, and so on. Not only are Telegram, WhatsApp, and the like tied to phone numbers—which will all be
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part of a file—but even more centralized solutions are being introduced, like this MASH in Russia, right? So, my opinion, which I recently expressed on my channel, is that—well, I don’t always voice this frankly, but I want to be honest: I don't relate
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to the ideology of "the victim," this loser mentality. "They're bullying us, they're the bad guys, so that means we're the good guys." It’s just so pathetic; it's clear that most people are "good" only because they lack the strength or power to do anything, but
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once they reach power, they suddenly start doing terrible things too. So, this "goodness" doesn't really mean anything. If people continue to use the same tools en masse, don't try to decentralize their food or logistics like small businesses do, and don't use
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secure communication methods, saying, "Well, I'm not a criminal"... Even those who have understood something—and I'm not talking about those who... well, there are people who truly believe, sincerely believe, that, for instance, you can't put up nets over Wildberries or Ozon warehouses to stop drones, or
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that missiles can't hit a bridge over the Dnieper. But such people do exist, truly. It's hard for me to say what level of IQ or intellect that is, but those people probably aren't the majority. The majority of people do
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understand or suspect something. Nevertheless, they don't draw any conclusions or take any action. It's like, "We understand, we're smart, we're the good ones, and they're the fools and the bad ones," which doesn't make any sense. If they are such fools,
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then why are you in this position, why are we in this position? So, what I'm trying to say is that this assault on freedom of speech, this assault on messaging apps, in a way exposes the, you know, the hollowness of our protest.
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Because we talk about this a lot. But what have people actually done? Here is what has actually been done. People have left. For example, I worked at Bastyon for many years. Bastyon, thank God, is a popular platform that gets
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used. In fact, you can see things there that you won't see anywhere else. Regarding freedom of speech, I believe we have met and exceeded our goals; it's not a perfect platform, but it works, it exists, and it informs people.
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But, let's say, we created Barteron, a platform for a decentralized economy, and, uh, the masses are not flocking to it. They still use things like Avito and say, "It’s cheaper." Well, I have always explained that the cheapest
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cheese is in a mousetrap—
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there are farmers there, there are regions in Russia where you can live completely autonomously, away from all the supermarkets and banks.
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Nevertheless, while there are enough producers and enthusiasts—which is great and really cool, especially among Russians—that’s where it ends. The trouble is that, in general, people don't want to support these enthusiasts with anything other than words. And, as you know, you can't exactly spread
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words on bread. So the question arises, and I think it's urgent, because we’ve been talking about this for years. And generally speaking, you say, I’m not saying everything comes true exactly to the letter. But, by and large, that’s how it turns out. What
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I said 5-6 years ago had people tapping their temples; now, no one does that, and they try to come up with arguments as to why it might be this way or maybe not quite. So, it’s all coming true.
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But the question is, what is actually happening? What has shifted? Honestly, every person should ask themselves: "I realize some kind of situation is approaching. I understand that this and that is happening. What have I personally done to be ready?" I have...
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well, I’m not saying you have to follow my advice. I gave my advice a long time ago. Land, water, energy. Yes , I believe there will be climate events in winter or summer, heatwaves, where people who aren't prepared will
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simply have a very hard time. Land, water, energy. Then skills, and like-minded people. What skills have you acquired? What like-minded people have you found? Because a voiceless person who cannot convince anyone, cannot say anything. Well, they will remain in the minority. At best, they
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will buy themselves a little time. So the question is, where is the action from people? It exists. I am not saying it doesn't. There are plenty of such great enthusiasts. I am very grateful even to the Bastyon project itself,
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with which I worked, because I met a large number of absolutely extraordinary, passionate people. But that is not enough. For these people, there should be some kind of second echelon. There must be people who support them. Who are preparing, who
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understand the situation, who want prosperity for themselves, for their descendants, yes, and prosperity, well, not just material. And it seems to me that here is this question of freedom of speech, that is, freedom of speech transitions into communications. And
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then, in the end, the question is: what have you done? For example, right now at Bastyon, we have released a new messenger, Forta. I will provide the links; it can be downloaded directly on Android. It is already on Google Play.
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It will soon be on iPhone, albeit in a stripped-down version. And so I have a question: will people use this, or, well, there are few alternatives. That is, people mainly talk about Signal, yes, Signal is tied to a phone number,
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although Signal has very strong encryption. Encryption keys are stored on servers. Yes, the keys are also encrypted, but when more powerful neural networks appear, and maybe something like quantum computers, who knows, all of this will also be attached to your dossier. So we are
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releasing Forta, which is anonymous, without a phone number, with folding encryption, open-source code, and so on . Will people be interested, at least as a backup option, to use something like this constantly? Because there is some inconvenience there. That is the
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question, as I see it, here is the question, and Americans have this saying, yes, where the rubber meets the road, well, the rubber meets the road precisely in inconvenience. That is, you install Forta chat, let's say, well , first of all, you cannot find people
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by phone number. Well, that is inconvenient. Wait, hold on. If you can be found by a phone number, then anyone can find you by a phone number. And that means everything. So convenience, the flip side of convenience is a
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concentration camp. In reality, people have not quite understood this. And it's not even about having a convenient option that is, well, very convenient.
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There are some kind of weighted pigeons . No, both are messengers, they have similar functions, but some minor inconvenience, and all this talk about us being good and them being bad stops at the level of being good. Well, so
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they’re good, but what’s the point? That’s exactly the thought I wanted to focus on. Yes, it will happen, yes, it is happening, yes, it will go to the end. The question for me isn't that they are bad, but what kind of
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willpower people will show and what they will do. Without action, there will be nothing. Yes, 100%, I can't even argue with you there, because there are different tasks; conditionally speaking, we are engaged in informing people, but everyone in
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their own place, everyone is in a different field, should at least strive to do or suggest something, because there are many people of completely different types among the followers.
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There are entrepreneurs, maybe someone has a craft or their own business. In general, a great many. And what we’ve actually discussed here shows, quite fittingly, how quickly these rules of the game change and how quickly the cage of the digital gulag slams shut.
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And actually, to support your words, there’s a recent piece of news, fresh , although I suspect this has been practiced for a long time, but nonetheless, the well-known company Palantir just released a new surveillance system called the Maven
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Smart System. What is the point? All cameras and radars are combined into a single system for tracking people and their movements in real time. Could you please comment on the emergence of such smart systems, where in the near future
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artificial intelligence will aggregate all this information? It’s clear that for now there are errors and flaws, but surely these will be minimized eventually. It turns out these are quite powerful. There are no such colossal errors. Meaning, if they
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processed your file and you were trusting enough to write it all under your own name and phone number, there won't be an error. Right now, there's a point here; there’s a lot of talk about neural networks and so-called
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artificial intelligence, but people don’t fully understand data centers. There is a lot of talk about these data centers. An absolutely incredible financial bubble is underway, a massive inflation of it, yes, trillions of dollars. These data centers, the question is, what are they needed for?
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People think data centers are needed for ChatGPT or for programming. No, far less powerful computers are enough for that. Even now, we will soon release a local FortChat, a local assistant like ChatGPT, but small, it will be right on
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your phone, you download it, and it works without the internet. It will be a special assistant for survival, medicine, and various other things. So, it can work even on a phone, yes, it might not be a general-purpose one like
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a giant model, of course, but neural networks can work very compactly now. Very compactly. The Chinese have figured out how to compress them a lot.
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That is, they didn't invent their own neural networks. These GPTs, all that, these are just downloaded American compact neural networks. But nonetheless, they learned how to do it cheaply. All these data centers are built with only one goal. It is 24-hour
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surveillance, because only for that could such computing power be useful. In principle, there are no other uses for them. Therefore, this is also coming, but it is a bit further off, so people are putting it off. There’s a
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point—I forget who said it, I'm trying to remember—one of the American researchers on this issue said that they rely on a very simple thing: they tell people that it's still far off, that it's not worth worrying about , it's unknown when it will even happen
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. And then suddenly they say, "It's already too late, it's behind us, there's nothing you can do." So, that’s the trap; in reality, both are lies—the idea that it's too far off is a lie, and the idea that it's
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already in the past is a lie. We are right in the middle of this moment, but regarding data centers and cameras and all that, it will be very difficult to resist. I will say this. In my opinion, people who are waiting for this so they
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can have their say are just naive. When this system is turned on, that will be the end. That will be the end. Then they will identify people much earlier, before they record some video, or do something, or build some project. They
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will identify people much earlier through correspondence, through intent, and so on and so forth. That is, the very moment of exercising one's will and saying "no," yes, to say one's "no, " I won't use this, I won't do this, I
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refuse to do this. And to learn something else right now. Then, if people think that in the year 2030 they will stand up like Ilya Muromets, tear their shirts open, and say "no," that won't happen. These are empty words. It
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means this will only be for those who have prepared. Those who have prepared will have some opportunity to get away, to have their say somewhere. But that is why I will say this: when these full surveillance systems turn on and these
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data centers start working, that is the finish line. That is, after that, no one will ever be able to change this system, unless it self-destructs, which is possible, but that could be in a century, who knows.
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In fact, all the data points precisely to this. And, by the way, against the backdrop of the changes taking place, in my opinion, such news is coming from different countries, including, by the way, Russia as well. Just recently, on
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August 18th, in several districts of the capital, there was a local internet outage and a chain reaction. Some kind of glitch was provoked there. Before that, in the UK, they said that hackers had allegedly attacked a power plant.
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Even earlier, we saw mass outages in Spain and Cuba. Doesn't it seem to you that all these outages are part of one big mosaic of events? But we don't quite understand the essence yet. And I have these, well, perhaps completely
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dystopian assumptions that in the near future, even, by the way, possibly in connection with the operation of data centers, our access to basic amenities will be restricted, including electricity itself. In your opinion, will there be something like what they
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put on the agenda? Yes, there will be, but I think it will be later. I think the first thing will be the lack of fuel, which I have been talking about for a long time.
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Restrictions on diesel and fuel, because, in general, fuel restriction is a quasi-fifteen-minute city. Plus, there is the absolute rise in the cost of living, when a person becomes dependent on this digital coupon, whether it's the ruble or the euro, it
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doesn't matter. And that is why I think the first thing is energy— specifically diesel. And that’s what, say, provides heating and cooling. I think electricity itself, too. Well, electricity as well, but I think these rolling blackouts are just part of the
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chaotic process. But, in general, there’s a significant percentage of people—maybe half a percent, I don't know, sociologically—who keep insisting, no matter what you tell them , "That's all nonsense.""Just wait until they cut the electricity." I think it was German Sterligov who said
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something like that. "When they cut the power, all of this will become useless. " Well, that’s quite funny, because new electrical capacity is being added every single day. And yes, most likely, we will be restricted, but it’s like
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that joke, that dark Soviet joke. Remember: "Dad, will you drink less now ?""No, son, it's you who will eat less.
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" In other words, there will always be electricity for the data centers. Hoping they’ll run out of electricity is, well, for heaven's sake, I don't know, it’s even more naive than believing they can't put a net over an
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oil refinery to stop drones. Well, I don't know how anyone could believe that, so I think it’s going to happen . But there is an important point here, besides what I’m trying—the mosaic is very broad, there's so much going on
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, and in principle, many people see different aspects. But it seems to me much more important than trying to understand what is important right now —what is actually more important. I think these 24/7 omnipresent cameras— we need to talk about them, but that's
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not quite yet. When that happens, that will be the end. But right now, it’s control over food, control over your messages, control over social media, control over your devices, right? And so on, and so on. And if a person
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doesn’t understand what is happening, doesn't want to acquire these skills, well, then they have no chance at all.
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When the moment comes with electricity restrictions for, so to speak, the common folk and the introduction of total surveillance via cameras, then no one will be able to do anything.
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Therefore, now is actually the time to act. And I think that electricity is not the main thing we’re going to be short of in the near future. I think there will be more fuel shortages, and maybe the winters will be as cold as
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the heat we just had, and then, you know, fires, well, just coincidentally at the same time. The heat lasted a long time, but everything caught fire in about two days. And maybe something similar will happen in winter, some
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kind of accidents, who knows. The point is that in any case, no matter what, land, water, and energy are essential.
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Wherever you are, you must either have your own or be in cooperation with someone who does. You need skills, you need like-minded people, and you need real money. I have been saying this for a long time about silver, gold, and to
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some extent cryptocurrencies; although they fell, they are now inevitably rising again because the American debt alone is 40 trillion, and in reality, there is so much debt that it all needs to be devalued, and this liquidity will flow somewhere. That is why I will say
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once again that I think the main thing is action. You need to decide. You can listen to me or listen to someone else, but once you start acting, the action itself will show you the next steps.
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Those people, I just don't understand people who listen, understand, but do nothing. Or they come up with all sorts of excuses, like "it's not all that simple," and just passively hang around . That is what I don't understand. It
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seems to me that it is a kind of trouble to be hypnotized to such an extent that you seem to have intelligence, the brain understands, but there is no movement of will. Yes, some kind of mass paralysis of will and
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a very, very ambiguous situation regarding the behavior of the majority. That's 100%correct. In a few days, Daniel, you and I are recording this video on August 26th. And in just a few days, the digital ruble officially comes into force in Russia. It is clear
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that some other countries have long had digital currencies in operation, such as China with its digital yuan. And so, little by little, we are approaching this very thing, as they call it, the third means of payment, yes. But it is
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clear that such resources are not invested for nothing, that this will only be a third means of payment; it is most likely something more. And in this regard, a question: what is your forecast, perhaps you have also studied
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materials on this topic, but also your personal opinion on this matter. What is your forecast for cash in both Russia and the world? And what do you think the disappearance of this form of money will depend on? I think it won't
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be the first thing, again, I mean it will happen, but it will be the final nail in the coffin, if it happens at all. I mean, I think that, you see, people don't quite grasp the fact that today they're worried, for instance,
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I've often heard people say that cryptocurrencies were created to drive people into digital money. These are people who carry cards with microchips in their pockets, a circuit that tracks absolutely everything they carry in their pockets. The only thing left for
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them is to have it implanted under their skin, right. And, generally speaking, I also carry these cards often because, well, it's necessary sometimes, although I try to use cash.
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The point is that, it seems to me, the disappearance of cash, whenever that happens, will be it, the very end.
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There's no point in even thinking about it right now. I think cash will remain for a long time even after a digital currency is in place. But what can you do with it if there is surveillance everywhere, if all messengers are
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monitored, if all cameras are watched? So, what can be done with that cash? Well, maybe something under the table, but that’s marginal. They aren't worried about that. The question is whether enough people will build something parallel so they can say no,
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be able to say no, show some will, some resistance, but I wouldn't count solely on cash, first of all. Secondly, people think, "I'll just keep cash," but you understand that it will be devalued. So you have absolutely no control over it.
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That is why, for any such situations, I have long recommended silver to everyone. Silver is the kind of thing where, if you have extra money, you don't even need to sell it; in principle, those who listened when I
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said to buy silver could have sold it for a profit, but financial gain isn't my goal. It's better to have some silver because when some disruptions start, whether there's cash or not, silver will still be valuable. It only
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grows. It only grows. Look at the actual demand for silver. Well, if you strip away the speculative elements, yes, silver will be needed everywhere.
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It is, after all, the metal of the electric age. It's needed everywhere in electricity. In nuclear power plants, in devices, in phones, in electric cars , silver is needed everywhere. So, uh, here I think there are many different
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options. I can offer my vision of what will come first and what second. But actually, our answer, as the correct one, I think, is that if you act correctly, you solve a whole range of problems at once. That is, if you
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understand how money works, know how to use cryptocurrency, can send or exchange it, own some silver, and know how it works, then in a cashless situation, when the economy is bled dry to introduce this digital token, you won’t be completely lost or helpless.
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And I think the digital ruble will, of course, be the only means sooner or later, but that will happen when everything is already over, and before that, there will be many other battles.
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Yes, all the prerequisites for this are there. Right now, naturally, they are saying there will be no cancellation.
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Well, naturally, at the beginning, there won’t be. There has been no precedent to justify it, in any case.
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And so, most likely, it will indeed be one of the final stages, and there will be very serious resistance, and an extremely serious argument will be needed. Well, here is what’s interesting. We just touched on the technological side of what’s
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happening in the world. But what about, for example, the situation with harvests, as there are currently severe problems with crop losses in Germany?
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Including Russian farmers starting to sell grain at a loss against the backdrop of attacks on ports, right? So we see how various conflicts around the world, including the very crisis predicted for the near future, will already expand. It creates a serious
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threat not only to fuel, as we discussed, but, naturally, to agriculture, and, as a consequence, to food. Will there be a serious food crisis this year, or should we still expect it next year? What is your gut feeling, your hypothesis?
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Well, I think the crisis is already underway. But who doesn't look at the price tags? I mean, if you look at the price tags on groceries, and more so, if you look at the ingredients and the package weight, then you realize the
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crisis has been going on for a long time, that there is a process of natural products becoming more expensive, being replaced by chemical components, and the weight of natural products decreasing. And so, all of this eventually spills over, prices
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keep rising, it, it...I think this is a major—I’m not talking about you specifically—but in general, it’s a mistake: waiting for "Hour X," expecting some sudden crisis. It is happening, it’s happening slowly; the frog is being boiled. And by the time "
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Hour X" arrives, well, it will effectively already be too late. So, the crisis is unfolding, and it manifests in rising food prices, and on top of that, there are more and more chemical substitutes in products that cost pennies. That is, they are pushing
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this crisis, making food more expensive , masking the price hikes slightly with chemicals, but depriving people of long-term health. That’s why this is yet another example, the umpteenth time I’ve tried to explain to people that it’s expensive to eat at, say, a
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cheap supermarket in Russia, I don’t know, Pyaterochka or whatever. It is expensive. You will pay for it later with your health, with doctors, you will pay for this food. And buying from a farmer or someone who actually produces it, yeah, it seems more
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expensive in the moment. But if it’s a normal, trusted person, first of all, in a crisis, they will be loyal to you, because you supported them, they will continue to exist and survive. Most importantly, they won’t be poisoning
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you. Well, at least not to that extent. Everyone uses pesticides somehow. But what’s in the ingredients, in the products in supermarkets, well, just look at the research. And again, people still prefer an imaginary, fleeting benefit—again, deceiving themselves —rather than building some kind of
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parallel system. Time is running short, and if we don’t support those who produce real food, even if it’s a bit more expensive, then, naturally, nothing will change. But returning to the food crisis, the real "mine" is not the harvest or anything like that; it
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is, in fact, diesel. We are seeing now that the foundation is being laid for a new order where there will be less fuel . Actually, there is plenty of oil in the world, more than enough. So, America, for instance, won’t
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experience any shortage of oil because it has its own, Canada is nearby, they’ll manage. But in general, this whole "Strait of Hormuz" situation, the strikes on Russian refineries, and so on—this could easily extend to Europe as well. If they want to, they can
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basically create a crisis where a farmer cannot harvest, or where it becomes unprofitable to gather the harvest or sow it. And I think we are currently in a stage where farmers are being steadily replaced by corporations that can survive in these conditions
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without fuel and so on. Through chemical additives, logistics, and their own economies of scale. Therefore , I believe food is one of the key factors, which is why I have always talked about land, water, and energy.
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But land is essentially land, while energy and water are, to some extent, food as well. And this does not mean that everyone has to dig for potatoes.
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Although it is far from the worst option if everyone has some kind of vegetable garden—yes, and firstly, it is not bad for your health. And to have that. I, for one, am in favor of it.
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But, in principle, among other things, it is better to eat a little less, but buy good, high-quality food. From those who grew it. I fear that, well, if they succeed, again, just look, they are conducting a kind of DDoS attack. It is
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a classic DDoS attack, meaning in all directions: fuel, this and that, infrastructure, energy, freedom of speech, and communications. And at some point, of course, only a very prepared group of people, not even an individual , can withstand a DDoS attack. That is,
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one person will not withstand it. Such a DDoS attack can only be withstood by prepared groups of people. And withstanding it is half the victory.
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The question is, do these groups of people, like-minded individuals, and allies exist? Very few. Far too few.
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There is too much information, too much analysis. And many people who watch it, the views are high, there are many people who express their opinions about what villains they are. I forbid you with my word, but there are few groups
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of like-minded people. There are many, many cool loners, yes. But for some reason, groups are not forming around them. And this problem, it exists among many nations—this trouble of a lack of unity, even at a local level.
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Therefore, I believe that everyone who understands something has a duty to fight this, to somehow unite people based on something: whether it's natural products, security, acquiring some skills, doing something, anything at all, to create the capacity to resist this DDoS attack against us.
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Because, once again, I don't think there will be some specific "Hour X," like they show in the movies. I think it will be a systematic attack, where everything gradually gets more expensive and everything falls apart.
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Things get worse and worse, and eventually, a person just gives up. First one gives up, then another, and instead of sticking together, people just think: "You die today, and I'll die tomorrow." That is why I believe that concrete actions, some kind of
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local unity, acquiring skills and resources, are priority number one. This comes before any ideological disputes, before any talk about tearing your shirt open, digging in the dirt, water, energy, or needing to change everything globally. No, you have to
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start with these small things, and then everything else will work out. Yes, 100 %. You always have to start with something. And honestly, I assume that we might be watched right now not just by regular viewers, but also by someone
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who, let's say, opened this video completely by accident. They probably partially understand that something global and large-scale is happening in the world and the country, something that will change their life dramatically. And perhaps one such factor, which we see today not just in
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Russia but in all countries, is that the labor market is undergoing massive changes due to recent events. This is linked to many factors, as we know.
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What is your vision of what awaits the labor market in the coming years? I think the labor market will be reformatted into a system where any person employed will essentially have no opportunity to say no. That is, they
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will be cornered, loaded with credit, and in debt, with no real savings, receiving that salary which is very easy to convert into a digital token.
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And at the right moment, when they are told, "Get vaccinated" or "get yourself out of the picture," it will be very hard for them to have a choice, especially if they have a family. That is why I fully support everyone who
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wants to do their own thing. And now there are opportunities, using neural networks, specific skills, and so much education and information available on the internet, to try and build something of your own. Even if it's small, even if it takes a lot of time
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and effort, it needs to be built, because then a person gains, first of all, a very cool skill—the skill of fighting and building your own business ; it appears.
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It turns out that, in principle, it will be a hypertrophied picture of what we see today, let's say, with public sector employees in Russia, for example . They are the first to have everything tested on them.
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Yes, yes, yes. That's why when people don't understand why cash says you can't build a network, I tell them all: "Because you have to go to the factory, you have to go to the factory and glue drones together." That is why you
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cannot build a network. It is a very simple logical chain. The destruction of small and medium-sized businesses, which I have talked about for years, will not necessarily be done under the banner of "We are going to destroy small business there.""We are going to
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take away your freedom?" No, it could be hackers, aliens, drones, anything at all. Beyond the current events, we also see, by the way, in relation to the destruction of small and medium-sized businesses, that various, shall we say, screws are being tightened at the
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legislative level as well. I don't know , Daniel, maybe you can somehow compare this with what, for example, is happening in other countries in this regard. What is the situation with small and medium-sized businesses right now? Well, it varies, it varies. I
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think that in the European Union, they are certainly squeezing it, while in America it's a bit easier, although they are also squeezing it, but it's easier. They give America a kind of vent. Well, America is one of the
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centers for spreading these technologies. It is the center of power on which, in general, all the strength of Israel rests. That is why America is allowed to breathe a little more. For me, it's not exactly scary, but painful
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. I am surprised at how harshly all this is happening in Russia. Why is that? Well, because, apparently, Russians are the least compliant and the most dangerous. I don't know, people should think about it. One needs to think, why? Not just get angry,
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clench your fists, that's fruitless. Why and what to do? So, I think, yes, roughly the same agenda is happening everywhere. In China, it reached a certain point and stopped. That is, they are not going any further. On the
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contrary, somewhere they are even giving a little more decentralized food there. They are trying to maintain some kind of balance because they understand that despite the fact that they are part of their NATO, they are built into this system, and they want to keep the
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ability to, as it were, bite back. Well , if suddenly they start being really, really tough on them, they have some food of their own, they have their own production, they have something. So that digital concentration camp there,
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it has stopped, right? Concentration camp. He was a leader for a long time, but he didn't advance any further. This means that progress is happening most in the EU, England, and the Russian Federation at an incredible pace, with
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the Russian Federation moving the fastest. So yes, it is happening, but unevenly. I must ask for your perspective on this . Do you think Russia expects any interesting events after the end of September this year?
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Yes, that's a sad question. Unfortunately, I think that events are expected, but usually, my experience suggests that it's not quite what people are anticipating. As a rule, when everyone is waiting for something en masse, it doesn't happen. And not
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for any specific reason, but simply because it loses its meaning. An attack should be sudden. So instead of mobilization, which everyone seems to be expecting, there might be something completely different, or perhaps even something better, I don't know. But the
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fact that Russia has been, so to speak, led to the slaughter is obvious. It is simply obvious. Any observer can say that, judging by the laws and by what is happening with fuel: how can a country that is a gas station—and I
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don't mean that in a bad way (people often call Russia a "gas station" in a derogatory sense, but Russia as a gas station is fine)—how can such a country run out of fuel? It's an absolute mystery. And it would be one
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thing if the refineries were bombed by incredible strategic missiles, but they were bombed by cheap drones that you could defend against just by hanging nets over them. Have you seen what, for instance, refineries look like in Saudi Arabia? They have actual iron domes.
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It's not expensive. It's not high technology. It reminds me of that movie , Mad Max, remember? It was popular.
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There were three parts. There was a third part with Mad Max and the Iron Dome. Well, there you go. Those technologies are, well, not quite Stone Age, but maybe Bronze Age. Meaning these are technologies that are very easy to use to protect a refinery.
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Nevertheless, dirt-cheap drones are hitting them constantly, every single day. And consequently, the situation is such that, well, it's quite something for Russia to be out of fuel as well.
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That is something serious. So, I understand why there is talk of mobilization, yes, it's obvious, but I wouldn't relax in the assumption that it will be exactly that. It could be something else entirely. I mean, a person might think that they're ready
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for it. And by the way, I do understand those people who try to play it safe and leave. That is, of course, well, you have to preserve your life. But at the same time, to everyone who has the
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opportunity, I always recommend staying in Russia. Russians, well, those who have the chance and aren't in immediate danger, should try, because, well, that's the easy way out, sort of. I understand if a person is a public figure or said something, yeah, or
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somewhere, but if they're just being extremely cautious, then I think Russians belong in Russia, there’s plenty of room there. And I’m not inclined, that is, on one hand I see that they're being tough on Russia, but I’m not inclined to conclude from
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that that Russia is finished and Russians are finished. On the contrary, I’m actually inclined to think that since these people, who are very smart —only shortsighted people say: "Oh, they're fools, the authorities are fools"—yes, there are puppet fools,
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there are smart puppets, and there are genuinely smart people. And if they have bet so much on Russia, it means they see something, it means there is something there that, for instance, maybe I don’t see because I’m not
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there. And it might be that we will see something very positive. I don’t lose heart in that sense.
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Yes, that's true. We have repeatedly observed how certain predicted events could either come true or not. So, it’s all very ambiguous here. Plans change constantly, and we don’t know what black swans or white ones might arrive, what events might happen that
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perhaps people didn’t even assume or expect, and against the backdrop of these events, something else will really develop. That has happened more than once. For example, for me, many events were, frankly speaking, a surprise that I could never have
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assumed or expected. And here, it will likely depend directly on the reality we find ourselves in very soon. Daniel.
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And literally, subscribers are constantly asking what’s up with Bastion Mobi, what’s the story there.
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Someone says the link isn't working. Let’s clear up this question. Yes, Bastion Mobi is a project that’s many years old, one that is still close to me. I came up with it and the name myself. Mobi is simultaneously a mobile
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phone and Melville’s elusive whale, Moby Dick. And that is why I really love this book. I believe this project has been very useful to many people.
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Many people received phones, a lot of phones. Unfortunately, it will likely be closing down soon. It is closing because the expenses and the logistics themselves are incredibly complex.
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Shipping is very difficult. And most importantly, manufacturers are constantly changing models. It is impossible to prepare a proper firmware for them. Just as you prepare it, they change it immediately. Trying to negotiate with a manufacturer to freeze a model or something. That costs
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completely unrealistic amounts of money , millions of dollars, so we produced while we could. Now, this will likely be the last mobile. Perhaps it will be revived; I will try, but for now, I will provide two referral links for you
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. One link is for abroad, meaning outside of the Russian Federation and Belarus, where there is a "Mobi" tablet that I personally use all the time for local voice input work, meaning you input by voice and it stays on the
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device—the voice isn't transmitted anywhere. I use it for work, for absolutely everything, because sometimes people tell me, "Look at that technology, look at your camera." I just really love nature. I am always in nature, and I don't really want to lug
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filming equipment around with me. I have my phone and tablet. And I work very often. Even work that involves scientific research or building something, I do on my tablet somewhere in the mountains, or by the sea, or a
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lake. I just really love nature, so the tablet will be available, and I really like it. There are only a few dozen of them left, actually. Maybe more will be purchased later. This link is for international customers. That tablet is
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for those not in the RF or RB. For the Russian Federation and Belarus, there is the Mobil phone. This is also the final model. It is only for the Russian Federation and Belarus. It is a model based on Nothing. A very cool phone.
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Most likely, both will only be available until the end of September. So, here are your links. So many people have written to me, "I didn't manage to purchase one, please extend it." We are doing what we can. But most likely,
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there will be a long pause after this model because people have no idea what the costs and the terrible headache involved are. I truly believe that mobile chat is needed more than ever, because surveillance will be implemented at the device level, so we
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need to come up with something else. That is, we need to find a manufacturer that won't consistently put spokes in our wheels. It feels like manufacturers have been given orders to interfere with such firmware, so we need to find
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such a manufacturer or learn how to assemble them ourselves. So, I will be thinking about this, but not anytime soon. Most likely by the end of September. So, there is MobileChat.
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Whoever needs it can purchase it. Also, I'd like to remind everyone about FortaChat, which has been released.
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It’s on Google Play. You can download it directly on Android. I will provide the link. It will be on iPhone soon. It is an anonymous, decentralized messenger. You know, for me, this is a kind of litmus test, because if people
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don't even want to protect their chat history—which is a goddamn elementary step requiring minimal effort—then they clearly won't do anything else.
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That's why a huge amount of effort and money has been invested in this chat. I personally invested my own money into it. For me, Bastyon is a charitable project, and I am happy about that. So, FortaChat is out, it's been refined,
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things are being fixed, but I ask everyone to download it. Download it directly on Android, and also download it from Google Play just to leave a good rating. If the rating isn't good, don't leave one, write to us instead
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and we'll try to fix it, because we need people to find out about this chat . Right now, this chat is the priority for me for the next few months. I see this as a crucial point, because if
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people continue to chat under surveillance during this turning point, then, well, it's hard to expect anything at all. Yes, by the way, let me plug something. Who remembers?
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Everyone remembers Igor Talkov. He is a great Russian poet, I consider him great. Moreover, I consider him a prophet in some sense. Well, I won't go into detail, but I think he is a prophet because he wrote so many poems
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that were hard to believe when he wrote them, yet they all came true. Sometimes I say: "See, I said this 3 years ago," but this man said it 40 years ago, 35 years ago, and he said things that were
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hard to believe back then. And everything is happening exactly as he said, which is why they took him out.
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He has a song that few people know, called "Uncle's Hat." Have you heard it , Alexey? No. Well, everyone knows Russia, everyone knows about Chistye Prudy. But not many people seem to know about Dyagin's "Kolpak." That song is
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just perfectly about today. It’s literally about today. I advise everyone to listen to it again, find it once more. Because, well, we’ve reached a point where that "kolpak"(cap /lid) is being lowered very, very hard.
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And the question is, if people don't even want to make a slight effort, well , if you aren't ready for the small things, what can you expect, what kind of like-minded people can you even talk about, and so on. That's why I'm
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calling on everyone to download Fortachat. If it’s not perfect, write in the comments, we’ll track it and fix it. There is a lot of work put into it. It is the only project at the moment that is not linked to your
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identity at all, and it has full end-to-end encryption, open source code , and keys are not stored on the server . So these are the principles that he followed. And there is also the ability to send Bitcoin to any point on Earth,
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practically without fees, which will also be important in conditions of financial censorship, or collapse, and so on. Therefore, I invite everyone to Forchat. Get the Mobi, whoever manages to get one. Well, there's no need to even advertise it, because there are
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more people who want it than there are phones. But whoever wants one, take it, yes, while it's still available. Daniel , thank you very much for your interesting analysis and for all the new data about Bastyon Mobi, and I hope
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we will meet again soon to discuss current events. Definitely, Alexey. Dear friends, be sure to give a thumbs up to help promote this video. Also, don't forget to subscribe to the Telegram channel and to Bastyon. You will find links to them in the first
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pinned comment under the video. Take care of yourselves. Bye everyone. Yeah.
Topics:internet censorshipcybersecurityfreedom of speechdigital surveillancemessenger appsRussiadecentralizationBastyon platformdigital controlinformation warfare
