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ОХРАНА ПРЕВРАТИТСЯ В КОНВОЙ! КТО СДАСТ ЗЕЛЕНСКОГО? О ФИНАЛЕ ВОЙНЫ И БУДУЩЕМ УКРАИНЫ -- ГОЛЬДАРБ

Discussion on Kyiv's crisis, corruption in Zelensky's circle, US political contradictions, and the future of Ukraine amid war.

Key Takeaways

  • Kyiv is in a deteriorating state, with officials urging evacuation due to poor infrastructure and ongoing conflict.
  • Corruption within Zelensky's circle has compromised the city's defense and energy security.
  • Russian tactics have escalated to targeting critical infrastructure like bridges to cripple Ukraine.
  • US political leaders are divided on the likelihood of peace, reflecting broader geopolitical tensions.
  • The future of Ukraine remains uncertain, with calls for realistic assessment and preparation for a prolonged war.

What the video covers

  • Klitschko calls Kyiv a 'survival mode' zone and urges residents to leave if possible due to worsening conditions.
  • Real estate prices in western Ukraine, like Truskavets, are rising amid fears of prolonged conflict.
  • Corruption allegations against Zelensky's associates for stealing funds meant to protect Kyiv's energy infrastructure.
  • Kyiv's infrastructure was neglected since 2014, with minimal investment in bomb shelters and city maintenance.
  • Russian military tactics are shifting towards total destruction, including orders to destroy bridges.
  • US political figures Rubio and Trump express conflicting views on prospects for peace in Ukraine.
  • The war's impact is weakening Europe, making it easier for adversaries to influence allies.
  • Discussion on internal Ukrainian political struggles and the failure of Kyiv's leadership to prepare adequately.
  • Warnings for Ukrainians to consider leaving cities for safer living conditions or abroad if possible.
  • The video critiques the Kyiv regime's incompetence and corruption while analyzing the war's evolving dynamics.

Answers

Questions about this video

Why is Klitschko urging people to leave Kyiv?

Klitschko describes Kyiv as being in 'survival mode' due to deteriorating infrastructure and ongoing conflict, advising those who can leave to seek safety elsewhere.

What corruption issues are discussed related to Zelensky's administration?

The video alleges that funds allocated for Kyiv's energy infrastructure defense were stolen by associates of Zelensky, compromising the city's protection.

How have Russian military tactics changed according to the video?

Russian forces have shifted tactics towards total destruction, including orders to destroy all bridges to weaken Ukraine's logistics and infrastructure.

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00:00
Speaker A
Maxim, greetings to you. Hello, Yuri. Hello, dear people. Yes, friends, today we will talk about the collapse in Kiev, which Klitschko called—what did he call it?—a survival mode. The survival mode advises people to leave Ukraine—no, not Ukraine, but Kiev—if there is an opportunity, to the West. We will also discuss the contradictions at the top in the United States, because Rubio states one thing, that there is no scent of peace. Trump says otherwise.
00:18
Speaker A
opportunity, to the West. We will also discuss the contradictions at the top in the United States, because Rubio states one thing, that there is no scent of peace. Trump says otherwise.
00:27
Speaker A
These points, as well as the change in the tactics of the Russian Armed Forces. We see that Surovikin, according to a Telegram source, was ordered to destroy all bridges. We will also raise this topic. Tkach was arrested in Austria but has already been released. We will discuss this too. Friends, for now, please support the broadcast with a like and subscribe to Maxim's resources. They are in the description. Maxim, let's start with the first thing, perhaps with the headline. At least, that’s the headline we have. Klitschko is now urging people to leave Kiev for somewhere, if you have somewhere to go. But again, the authorities are not saying where.
00:41
Speaker A
but has already been released. We will discuss this too. Friends, for now, please support the broadcast with a like and subscribe to Maxim's resources . They are in the description. Maxim, let's start with the first thing, perhaps with the headline. At least,
00:53
Speaker A
Apartments in the west of the country are getting more expensive. There is data that real estate prices in Truskavets have risen by about 40%. Vereshchuk says to prepare for a long war. And what does this tactic that has changed, aimed at total destruction, bring to Ukrainians, one might say?
01:02
Speaker A
Apartments in the west of the country are getting more expensive. There is data that real estate prices in Truskavets have risen by about 40%.
01:11
Speaker A
What should Ukrainians do in this situation? Wait for peace, as they say, the darkest hour is always before the dawn, or should they save themselves, leave, and where is all this heading?
01:22
Speaker A
What should Ukrainians do in this situation? Wait for peace, as they say, the darkest hour is always before the dawn, or should they save themselves, leave, and where is all this heading?
01:36
Speaker A
Well, Yur, you constructed a question from the trivial to the complex. I apologize, you went from the small to the great all at once and put me in a difficult position on how to answer it correctly. Well, how do you feel about how things are going, if I feel it situationally? If someone has the opportunity to leave the country, has the opportunity to take their children out, they should leave the country and take the children out. If there is an opportunity to live outside the city, in such a way that the housing is autonomously provided for. Your own well or borehole, your own heating, the ability to maintain an electric generator, if such a possibility exists. It seems to me that it is better to leave Kiev now for the simple reason that Kiev was not good even in peacetime since 2014. It was systematically trashed, systematically ruined, and systematically destroyed.
01:51
Speaker A
how things are going, if I feel it situationally. If someone has the opportunity to leave the country, has the opportunity to take their children out, they should leave the country and take the children out. If there is an
02:02
Speaker A
The asphalt that Klitschko laid washed away with every rain or every snowfall. Sewage treatment plants were not cleaned or maintained as they should have been. Storm drains were constantly clogged, and Kiev would turn into some kind of subtropical or tropical city whenever the snow melted or with any downpour. Kievan residents know this. During the peaceful, pre-war times, nothing was done in Kiev. This is easily explained. Everything that crawled out of the Maidan and climbed into power offices is incapable of doing anything. They are not capable of developing. They cannot build, they cannot repair; they are only capable of looting, renaming things, and slinging mud at each other and their opponents.
02:22
Speaker A
leave Kiev now for the simple reason that Kiev was not good even in peacetime since 2014. It was systematically trashed, systematically ruined, and systematically destroyed.
02:36
Speaker A
That, yes, they are specialists in that sense. They are not capable of anything constructive. Kyiv, today's Kyiv, didn't just end up this way after 2022; it had been preparing to become barely fit for normal living throughout all the peaceful time, all the time Klitschko and his gang were in charge of this city. That is the first point.
02:57
Speaker A
whenever the snow melted or with any downpour. Kievan residents know this. During the peaceful, pre-war times, nothing was done in Kiev. This is easily explained. Everything that crawled out of the Maidan and climbed into power offices is incapable of
03:14
Speaker A
Unfortunately, time has been lost today. Unfortunately, money has been stolen today. The money that was allocated for the defense of the city. By the way, no one will suspect me of even the slightest sympathy for Klitschko or other Klitschkos, or for everything that crawled out of the Maidan. No one will ever suspect that. But meanwhile, after the accusations from Zelensky, I would advise him today not to remain silent, but to respond. And responding is not very difficult. Zelensky's people stole the money that was allocated for the protection of energy infrastructure. Questions should be asked of Zelensky: "Where is this money? The money with the Mindiches, the Golushchenkos, the Shefirs, the Zuckermans, and all that trash that Zelensky is surrounded by and which—and this is extremely important—Zelensky leads." All these hundreds of millions that were allocated for the protection of Kyiv's heat and power plants, first and foremost, were all stolen. Remember the NABU operative recordings, where one of the suspects, a pal of Zelensky, says: "So, why the hell protect it? They'll destroy everything anyway, let's just take it." And then the talk went on about how much to give to whom, right? 20% there, 50% for the slush fund. After all, this is all documented. Therefore, Klitschko has something to parry with in this sense. Zelensky's people, and he himself, I assume—I don't believe he stood on the sidelines—participated in making sure these funds for the energy defense of Kyiv simply didn't arrive. This is the second point, and it is an important point, actually.
03:30
Speaker A
That, yes, they are specialists in that sense. They are not capable of anything constructive. Kyiv, today's Kyiv, didn't just end up this way after 2022; it had been preparing to become barely fit for normal living throughout all the peaceful time, all the time
03:49
Speaker A
Next, when Klitschko was asked: "It's the fifth year of the war," how many new bomb shelters have been built in that time, he said: "Two." Two. Two in the capital of a multi-million person country; in a capital whose annual budget is approximately 2 billion euros. That's the revenue side. They asked: "How, two? Why so few?" He said: "It's very expensive." This is all so that people who live in Kyiv today and have the means to leave, would leave, if such an opportunity exists. I am not echoing the Klitschkos, Vereshchuks, and the rest of this trash that is called the Kyiv regime today. I am not echoing them; I am simply assessing the situation realistically. As for what has happened in recent months to the infrastructure in Kyiv—the bridges, roads, locomotives, and so on—all of this was predicted by me back in the spring of this year. I pointed out back then that Russia would prepare to change the method and nature of the war.
03:56
Speaker A
Unfortunately, time has been lost today . Unfortunately, money has been stolen today. The money that was allocated for , uh, the defense of the city. By the way, no one will suspect me of even the slightest sympathy for Klitschko or
04:10
Speaker A
These words were spoken on my broadcast, on my channel, in May of this year. Literally two months later, Putin repeated them word for word. Then everyone else started repeating them too. They changed their approach to the method and nature of how the war is being fought. What does this mean for Kyiv and for Ukraine? Strictly speaking, any minimally observant person can see that today, if the entire logistics infrastructure hasn't been completely wiped out, it is practically being wiped out. More than 300 locomotives have been destroyed or put out of commission. They need to be repaired, but there are no resources to repair them. You know about the energy situation yourselves; you know it thoroughly without me. Furthermore, I assumed back in the summer that strikes would be or are being carried out on those technical connection and distribution hubs—let the energy experts correct me—that loop Ukraine’s nuclear power into the general Ukrainian energy grid. Why was that clear back then? For a simple reason. Thermal power plants are practically gone, combined heat and power plants are practically gone, hydroelectric plants are practically gone. Alternative green energy doesn't even count. That is, the only supplier of electricity in Ukraine today is the Soviet nuclear infrastructure that was built back then and is still operating in Ukraine. It is unlikely anyone would dare to strike the plants themselves, because that would be a catastrophe for everyone: for Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, and Europe. But striking the infrastructure that links these plants and integrates them into the general energy market is quite understandably the logical target. This was also clear and was predicted back then. Why are strikes being carried out on the bridge, on the bridges, right now? Some ask how the Russian troops are going to capture Kyiv. And Zelensky, by the way, recently blurted something out about how they are pl...
04:27
Speaker A
people stole the money that was allocated for the protection of energy infrastructure. Questions should be asked of Zelensky: "Where is this money ? The money with the Mindiches, the Golushchenkos, the Shefirs, the Zuckermans, and all that trash that
04:43
Speaker A
Zelensky is surrounded by and which— and this is extremely important— Zelensky leads." All these hundreds of millions that were allocated for the protection of Kyiv's heat and power plants, first and foremost, were all stolen. Remember the NABU operative
05:00
Speaker A
recordings, where one of the suspects, a pal of Zelensky, says: "So, why the hell protect it? They'll destroy everything anyway, let's just take it." And then the talk went on about how much to give to whom, right? 20%there,
05:12
Speaker A
50%for the slush fund. After all, this is all documented. Therefore, Klitschko has something to parry with in this sense. Zelensky's people, and he himself, I assume—I don't believe he stood on the sidelines—participated in making sure these funds for the
05:30
Speaker A
energy defense of Kyiv simply didn't arrive. This is the second point, and it is an important point, actually.
05:36
Speaker A
Next, when Klitschko was asked: "It's the fifth year of the war," how many new bomb shelters have been built in that time, he said: "Two." Two. Two in the capital of a multi-million person country; in a capital whose annual
05:52
Speaker A
budget is approximately 2 billion euros . That's the revenue side. They asked: "How, two? Why so few?" He said: "It's very expensive." This is all so that people who live in Kyiv today and have the means to leave, would leave, if
06:09
Speaker A
such an opportunity exists. I am not echoing the Klitschkos, Vereshchuks, and the rest of this trash that is called the Kyiv regime today. I am not echoing them; I am simply assessing the situation realistically. As for what has happened in recent months to the
06:29
Speaker A
infrastructure in Kyiv—the bridges, roads, locomotives, and so on—all of this was predicted by me back in the spring of this year. I pointed out back then that Russia would prepare to change the method and nature of the war
06:46
Speaker A
. These words were spoken on my broadcast, on my channel, in May of this year. Literally two months later, Putin repeated them word for word. Then everyone else started repeating them too. They changed their approach to the method and nature of how the war is
07:02
Speaker A
being fought. What does this mean for Kyiv and for Ukraine? Strictly speaking , any minimally observant person can see that today, if the entire logistics infrastructure hasn't been completely wiped out, it is practically being wiped out. More than 300 locomotives
07:18
Speaker A
have been destroyed or put out of commission. They need to be repaired, but there are no resources to repair them. You know about the energy situation yourselves; you know it thoroughly without me. Furthermore, I assumed back in the summer that strikes
07:34
Speaker A
would be or are being carried out on those technical connection and distribution hubs—let the energy experts correct me—that loop Ukraine’s nuclear power into the general Ukrainian energy grid. Why was that clear back then? For a simple reason. Thermal power plants are
07:53
Speaker A
practically gone, combined heat and power plants are practically gone, hydroelectric plants are practically gone. Alternative green energy doesn't even count. That is, the only supplier of electricity in Ukraine today is the Soviet nuclear infrastructure that was built back then and is still operating
08:09
Speaker A
in Ukraine. It is unlikely anyone would dare to strike the plants themselves, because that would be a catastrophe for everyone: for Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, and Europe. But striking the infrastructure that links these plants and integrates them into the general
08:25
Speaker A
energy market is quite understandably the logical target. This was also clear and was predicted back then. Why are strikes being carried out on the bridge , on the bridges, right now? Some ask how the Russian troops are going to
08:39
Speaker A
capture Kyiv. And Zelensky, by the way, recently blurted something out about how they are planning to capture Kyiv again. No, they are not planning to capture Kyiv. The Russians are not concerned with Kyiv right now. From a military standpoint, it is enough for
08:53
Speaker A
them to sow chaos in Kyiv and create a massive collapse. And everything is heading strongly in that direction.
08:59
Speaker A
That is exactly why they are striking the bridges. That is exactly why the decision was made to destroy them. Did Putin do this personally? You know, counting the bridges in Kyiv on his fingers and telling Surovikin, "Look, I’ve made a list of bridges; shoot
09:12
Speaker A
there first, then there." I don't believe that. That is not Putin's task. I think we need to understand who this is; according to my information—and you just cited The Telegraph, which published Surovikin's name yesterday or the day before—I informed my
09:29
Speaker A
listeners that Surovikin would lead the overall military operation in Ukraine back in the spring of this year.
09:37
Speaker A
According to our sources, that was the assumption, and that is what ultimately happened. One needs to understand what kind of person and what kind of military commander he is. He is someone who is strongly opposed to the loss of
09:52
Speaker A
manpower, but at the same time, he believes in maximizing the use of all technical capabilities. Today, the plan to use these technical capabilities is being carried out by taking out Ukrainian infrastructure and creating chaos in the capital of Ukraine. I will
10:12
Speaker A
say more: according to Zelensky, Russia has prepared an untold number of all kinds of missiles and is preparing more and more of them every day. There is a similar number of these super-fast drones, and they are being modernized
10:26
Speaker A
even further. So, everything that has been happening lately in Kiev and other regional centers yesterday and the day before is not exactly the beginning, but let's call it a "sighting shot." I believe the main blow will be dealt to
10:42
Speaker A
the Ukrainian rear in parallel with an offensive on the front line. They won't .
10:48
Speaker A
Maxim, allow me, yes, allow me. This is very important. You mentioned a collapse, yes, all of this will cause a collapse. And, um, when will this point be reached? All because, look, there are two statements I announced—those of Trump and Rubio—which essentially
11:01
Speaker A
contradict each other. But I saw on your YouTube channel that you said they don't actually contradict each other, since Trump says it's near, while Rubio says the issue cannot be solved through political and diplomatic means.
11:14
Speaker A
Accordingly, we can draw the conclusion that Russia will deliver a strike that forces peace. And what kind of strike would that be? You said there would be a collapse, that this strike on Kiev is aimed at causing a collapse. But who
11:26
Speaker A
will flip that switch? Who will say, " That's it, I'm tired of this, let's agree to the terms"? We see there are voices among the deputies today, but how do you see it, well, how will this conflict end? Who has to say it:
11:38
Speaker A
Zelensky, Klitschko, or Goncharenko? What Goncharenko and Klitschko say plays no role today. Klitschko has repeatedly traveled to the West to be vetted for the future position of president. This, by the way, partly explains the conflict between Zelensky and Klitschko. Zelensky previously saw
11:57
Speaker A
Klitschko as his rival, someone who could replace him. I believe that is unlikely, I believe that is possible. I digressed a little from the topic, but I remember the leitmotif of your question, and I will answer it. And yet
12:11
Speaker A
, I think that Klitschko has other competitors now, and Zelensky has other competitors as well. And, um, I believe that the second leitmotif—why Zelensky keeps meddling in Kiev and why he came up with that military administration there, which essentially
12:28
Speaker A
stripped the Kiev authorities of all powers, and why Zelensky fixated the district administrations on himself so they don't report to the Mayor of Kiev?
12:38
Speaker A
It’s absurd, really. But meanwhile, that is how it is in Kiev today. Why was this done? Well, because there is a lot of money. 2 billion euros are not just lying around on the ground. That is not to mention how much more money
12:49
Speaker A
can be collected, distributed, and stolen under the slogan "for the good of the capital." I drew your attention to this because, in reality, it is important; it explains the motives and reasons for the actions of Zelensky himself. As for Honcharenko.
13:06
Speaker A
Honcharenko, in my view, is Poroshenko's mouthpiece. And I still believe that the initiator of Honcharenko's speech is Poroshenko.
13:16
Speaker A
Honcharenko realizes that he is not welcome in Russia under any circumstances and is likely not welcome in his own hometown of Odessa either.
13:26
Speaker A
And no one intends to forget what happened in 2014, not to mention all the crimes that were committed by such individuals and people from the moment of Maidan to this day. Therefore, I believe that he has fulfilled his role,
13:42
Speaker A
and nothing more. I don't think these people will influence the main decision-making process regarding the conclusion of peace. And now, to answer your question. Unfortunately, Ukraine has long been a managed subject of transactional international politics.
14:05
Speaker A
It is not an independent actor. It is not a state, unfortunately, in the sense that we all attribute to the concept of a state. Unfortunately—I say unfortunately many times—because I am in favor of Ukraine remaining and actually becoming a state. Today, it is
14:21
Speaker A
a managed subject. There are two main centers of control. Domestic policy is left to the mercy of Zelensky, the " green servants," those who have now become war profiteers, those who earn from the war. These are all sorts of
14:35
Speaker A
different people. There are not that many of them, but not too few either. They feel quite comfortable in the war, and they desperately need the war because it brought power to some and millions and billions to others. So,
14:47
Speaker A
these are the ones who manage from the inside, but there are stronger ones who manage from the outside. This is the conventional—depending on who calls it what—collective West, globalists, the deep state. Um, I call those same globalists transnational speculators.
15:10
Speaker A
The point is that the start and development of this military conflict were profitable for them. Geopolitical goals are simply being achieved.
15:19
Speaker A
Weakening Russia, or more desirably for them, its collapse and disintegration, with the ultimate goal being to seize the vast resources of this massive country, which cannot be found anywhere else on the globe. And likely won't be in the foreseeable future. Therefore,
15:36
Speaker A
it is a very tempting morsel for any fat cat. This goal is being achieved.
15:43
Speaker A
The goal of weakening Europe is being achieved. It is always easier for adversaries to work with a weak ally and much simpler to keep them in check.
15:52
Speaker A
Other commercial and geopolitical goals are being reached, suggesting that the conflict in Ukraine and its continuation are extremely profitable.
16:02
Speaker A
Including even minor goals in comparison, such as: extending various official terms of office, or rather, keeping certain Western leaders in their seats who have actually proven to be shitty leaders for their own countries, but by shifting the blame to
16:20
Speaker A
the war in Ukraine, all these years they have been washing away, or rather, to their own voters—uh, how do you say it in Russian?
16:30
Speaker A
Pulling the wool over their eyes. I don't know. Yeah, well, something like that. In other words, they were deceiving their own citizens, their voters, and saying the answers are over there. And at that moment, they continued to reign and
16:41
Speaker A
continued to make money. So, there are two main decision-making centers. There is a third center. This third center, whether or not one likes my answer right now, is Moscow, Russia. It is a specific decision-making center in the sense that it is currently waging a war
16:58
Speaker A
with Ukraine. And the specificity of decision-making in this context is that their decision-making rests solely on a military victory. Military victory, judging by what has happened over these years, is achievable today for Russia only by using, well, almost all types
17:24
Speaker A
of weaponry that Russia possesses. I mean, and I am certain of this, that its supreme military-political leadership has long been considering the use of nuclear weapons in this war if necessary. No matter what anyone says, that it's unrealistic or
17:43
Speaker A
impossible, it is real, because with every day this war continues, the question arises more and more, as does the problem of what will happen to Russia itself next. It is weakening, that is a fact. It is a fact confirmed
18:01
Speaker A
both by economists, primarily Russian economists, and by the social response of Russian society to recent events, such as the elections. After all, with this election victory, the Russian power structure received a huge vote of confidence, primarily to end the war in
18:24
Speaker A
Ukraine with a victory as quickly as possible and by any means necessary. Therefore, I am saying that Russia will also influence decision-making in Ukraine, and its actions will most likely become the catalysts. in order for a decision to conclude peace with
18:47
Speaker A
Russia to be made more quickly in Kyiv or outside of Ukraine. In what way will the West influence this? I think that, I think that in many aspects, the war in Ukraine today has brought those who started it, those who prepared all this
19:09
Speaker A
, those who, those who orchestrated it, a great many dividends, both geopolitical and economic. And if you compare the profits gained with the potential risk of starting a nuclear war, I think that those who stood behind the start of the military
19:27
Speaker A
conflict in Ukraine will try to avoid the start of a real nuclear war, because if it were to begin, God forbid , with the use of nuclear weapons on the territory of Ukraine, it could very quickly escalate, spill over beyond
19:40
Speaker A
Ukraine's borders. Therefore, I believe that today the time has come when the parties will negotiate. Ukraine is managed, once again, it is a managed entity. And it will be forced sooner or later to accept the terms that the
19:59
Speaker A
negotiating parties propose to it. The negotiating parties today are not just Russia. Russia will be supported in this sense by the East, primarily China . The West is split. Because many current and future leaders of the West in the near term are against the war in
20:18
Speaker A
Ukraine continuing, and even more so against them helping in any way, especially financially, the Ukrainian regime, and for the war to spiral further. Because they are extremely afraid that all this could spill over to their side. They, in fact, are
20:32
Speaker A
afraid of this. Pay attention to the situation in America. The White House is trying to play its own game.
20:40
Speaker A
Apparently, things are very difficult for the White House and for Trump personally. And the so-called deep state, which it seemed Trump would so easily bypass, he has not managed to bypass. You see, the deep state is imposing on Trump, whether through
20:55
Speaker A
persuasion or force, certain rules of the game and certain conditions that Trump is forced to reckon with. That is exactly why, I believe, Trump has still not made a decision to end the work of the current Kyiv regime. And now, thank
21:13
Speaker A
you for listening to such a lengthy answer, but I will draw a line under your very serious question. In short, I am sure that in the near future catalysts will emerge that will accelerate the peace process. It is in
21:35
Speaker A
this sense that I agree with Trump, who said: "You may not believe me, it will seem surprising to you, but peace in Ukraine will come in some foreseeable, near future." I think that when Trump said that, he was incorporating into
21:51
Speaker A
his words the insights from the intelligence streams he receives, or perhaps even directly from the Russian leadership, regarding what they plan to do in the near future in the war in Ukraine. As for Rubio, what he said does not strongly contradict Trump. He
22:10
Speaker A
said: "I don't see any diplomatic channels, I don't see any diplomatic moves." Well, that doesn't really refute Trump's phrase about there being an end. It’s just that, unfortunately for our country, the catalyst for this very end, the accelerator of the peace
22:28
Speaker A
process, will most likely be a brutal intensification of the war along the front lines and the destruction of Ukraine's rear areas. That is when the decision will be made that it is necessary to make peace, unfortunately.
22:43
Speaker A
Although it would have been possible, of course, to make peace today, yesterday, or the day before, without allowing such things to happen, and without leading to the insane casualties that have already reached the dozens today. And you know that
22:55
Speaker A
without me telling you. I mean the civilians. Yes. Furthermore, I saw a video clip today about another forced mobilization , where a 74-year-old grandmother was running out, and they just pushed her; she suffered a broken collarbone and a
23:08
Speaker A
fractured pelvis—basically, that’s it, she’s disabled now. Well, that’s just by the way, these are terrible consequences. Indeed, it is a pity for the civilians. Well, we can take a look at how things were yesterday; I’ll show you a clip to
23:19
Speaker A
visualize the consequences a bit. Just like that. Yesterday, people were riding the escalator at the deepest metro station, Arsenalna. The red, blue , and green lines were all de-energized . Now, it seems, service has been restored—well, not "seems," it has
23:36
Speaker A
been restored. Today, they were also stuck in the depot for 3.5 hours. The trams had a day off, but strikes were also launched in retaliation against Russia, targeting Yandex data centers in Kaluga today and in the Ryazan region yesterday. And Zelensky
23:55
Speaker A
commented on this as a response to the strikes on data centers. But the strike on Ukrainian data centers was a response to the strike on, what is it, marketplaces, right? And here is the question: you said, well, in essence,
24:10
Speaker A
you said that the final line would be a nuclear threat. And what could trigger it? What kind of strike on Russia, or is it time, or is it a specific strike that will provoke the Russian Federation into taking extreme measures
24:23
Speaker A
? I think that the Russian Federation will try not to let that happen now. I think that the Russian Federation, or rather its leadership, remembers the events perfectly well, even from a year ago, when Russia’s skies were clear
24:38
Speaker A
and only isolated drones from Ukraine roamed them. Today, the Russian Ministry of Defense reports daily that several hundred drones are being shot down. And The situation for Russia in a negative sense, in this meaning or context, has grown exponentially. Today
25:00
Speaker A
, Russia is striking Ukraine with these modernized drones, you know, with jet engines, with boosters. Who is to say that tomorrow the same thing won't happen in Russia? Who is to say that with the money provided by Western
25:16
Speaker A
governments, they won't eventually build the necessary ballistic and other missiles that will cause much more terrible and serious damage to Russia?
25:28
Speaker A
Time has shown that this is precisely what is possible. That is exactly why, when I say that Russia cannot and does not want to afford any further prolongation of the military conflict in Ukraine, I am reflecting on the
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empirical path both countries have taken. And both countries, watching each other and observing how events are unfolding, cannot help but understand that further escalation will be ruinous for both of them. Only one is currently much stronger, and I mean Russia.
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Therefore, I believe that, I believe that mm in the near future there is no talk of using the Russian Federation's nuclear arsenal against the Ukrainian rear, but I think the Ukrainian rear will be shelled much more massively with missiles and these fast drones.
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And, perhaps, Russia will actually use, as it unfortunately promised, those super-weapons of theirs like the Oreshnik. I never take on roles that are not my own. I am not an expert in weapons, not an expert in this military
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field. Therefore, I don't want to characterize it in any other way. And I won't argue about where it hit or where it didn't hit. I don't have exact data, but I believe that Russia has prepared for this today. I sincerely believe and
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think, observing what is happening, that everything that has occurred in recent months—and I predicted this back in late spring and early summer of this year, that events would unfold exactly this way, unfortunately, in Ukraine—is all still just a sighting.
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I think October and November will be very serious, explosive, very, very fiery months for our country. I think the shelling will intensify. I think the bridges that were being sighted, primarily cable-stayed ones, because they are likely weaker in this regard,
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will be destroyed or disabled, as will other infrastructure on the territory of Ukraine. Two or three months ago I said that the shooting would not just be at the bridges of Kyiv. Look, today they are shooting at bridges in Kharkiv
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, bridges in Dnipro, bridges in Zaporizhzhia, and bridges in Western Ukraine, because it is logical.
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Unfortunately, this is the logic of war , the war that Russia is striving, really striving to end today. It is clear that it cannot afford to end this war with a defeat. Therefore, it will seek victory at any cost, by any means.
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And one of the probable means in this war will be nuclear weapons. God forbid , of course. And returning to what we have today, it must be noted that Ukraine's air defense is working with its last remaining strength. I
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understand that the front is holding on by a thread, although we are all being told about some kind of musical operation being carried out brilliantly , capturing part of the gray zone or something like that. But in general, I
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think today that this whole operation is needed to highlight and bring to light specific figures and for a certain scenario in the development of internal politics in Ukraine in the near future. It is my conviction that this is what it was all devised for.
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But overall, the infrastructure is on its last legs. We are asking today, Ukraine is asking for new locomotives in Western countries because it has none of its own, there is nothing to transport with. Transporting is necessary because exports by sea are
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closed, completely closed. Russia is firing in all directions now, simply explaining to these various sides: " That's it, forget it, you stay out of the Black Sea until we finish the war." Russia also cannot shoot in all directions in the Black Sea forever.
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This is another argument for the fact that Russia is just as much in a hurry to end the war and will end it, I repeat, quite brutally if peace is not concluded today with Russia, between Ukraine and Russia. Simply because the
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Black Sea is not just a Russian sea. And well, everyone tolerates it, tolerates it for the time being, and Russia itself, in general, is tolerating it in this sense. Its military bases are also being shelled, its tankers are burning, its ships are
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burning, its dry cargo ships are being blown up. Nobody needs this for long. I want to draw your attention to one important fact. Every country has idiots, right, especially in the mass media, especially if it's propaganda.
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They have propaganda, we have propaganda. This is no secret to anyone . I remember, the beginning of '26, a part of the Russian propaganda is shrieking. Wow, we have been conducting this operation in Ukraine for as long as the Great Patriotic War lasted. I
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understand that smart people were found there who said: "Damn it, shut up, what are you comparing with what?" What are you talking about? What results do you want to compare? I will leave it at that. But I am sure that it was
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precisely those smart people who shut up those stupid scribblers and those stupid speakers on various broadcasts so that this topic would not be raised again. I am sure that the leadership in the Kremlin is not very pleased with
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the fact that—and I am choosing my expressions and selecting very mild words here—is not very pleased that the war in Ukraine is dragging on for so long today and that it has gone completely off-script from the plans that were once voiced. Therefore, this
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is one more argument in favor of my conclusion that Russia is in a hurry to end the war in Ukraine. And now, regarding domestic policy—this is very important—I mean those who are living off the war today, because you
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and I have already assessed what the West wants. We have assessed what the globalists want to achieve and what they have achieved. We understand what Russia wants. What remains is Zelensky and his inner circle—that is, those who have become billionaires, those who
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are illegally holding onto power, and those who are acting out their sick psychological complexes while occupying various posts; they are the ones remaining. They are, of course, resisting with their hands, feet, suction cups, their very guts, their entrails, with anything they can, with
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their toxic juices. They are resisting; they have latched onto this power, and they are terrified of losing it. And they understand that they will lose it the moment the word "peace" is uttered in Ukraine. For them, "peace" and "the
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end" are synonymous. It is too obvious, too blatant. It could not be otherwise. If Zelensky cared even a little bit about the country, he would have been in Moscow years ago. In 2023, I publicly appealed to him, urging him to
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go to Moscow and pull a fast one. Do something that no one expects of you.
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You were once capable of such things, with all that chutzpah and everything else. Do it, and count how many lives will be saved. No one in Moscow would touch him. Putin has absolutely no need for anything to happen to him in Moscow
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. Are you kidding? No one would accept that, right. And in general, it—well, nothing would happen there if that were done. If it had been done in twenty-four, in twenty-five, or even now in twenty-six. Well, all right, if
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you’re afraid of Moscow, go to Minsk. Lukashenko won't touch him; he has no need for that. He is afraid, Maxim, he is most likely afraid of that aggressive, right-wing radical minority in Ukraine, because he started dancing to their tune way back when—well,
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since those protests started, you remember, in 2019. From 2020 it started to intensify. Well, in '19, regarding the non-capitulation, you remember, right, at the end of September, yes, I just remember the comparison, when we brought people out to fight against
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tariffs that were inflated dozens of times over for Ukrainians, and the police dispersed the people on Zelensky's orders. And when the Nazis marched on Zelensky's office, he would run out to them, then his press secretary, I believe, would go out as
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an envoy, someone else would go out, and he would lull them, persuade them that no, no, no, everything is fine, everything is okay. I understand that for me it is wild and incomprehensible how a person of his nationality can
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play along with such things and how he can be on that side. But that, meanwhile, has happened. Such is the tragedy of Ukrainian realities today, and that is how it is. As for whether he is afraid of them, it seems to me
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that during this time it would have been possible to create at least a balance of power that could be used to his advantage. And then, today Zelensky is the mediator between Western money and the army, the punitive system. And
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the state apparatus. It is Zelensky, he can close the tap for one regiment or another, or he can open it. He can close it, he can open it. Therefore, this understanding of, um, him being afraid of them is not entirely clear to
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me personally. I am sure that he has the entire punitive system in his hands : the SBU, the police, a bunch of soldiers and officers, at least a whole part of the general staff is still ready to follow him, and the generals
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will be followed, accordingly, by various military special forces. I think this is quite enough to resist, if you are talking about this, well, a conditionally nationalist threat, let's call it that, or a threat from radicals . Everything is realistic. That's what
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I think. The only question is, well, does he need this today? Will he use it today? I think that he is afraid more than anyone else. I think that he is fulfilling a specific task, a specific role of a guard, which could, a guard that
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could turn into a prison escort. That is possible. I think that is possible. Here there is, I once took a screenshot. Uh, one American senator spoke remarkably well about him. Black: "We organized a coup in Ukraine, we did
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it using force from the other side of the globe." Zelensky is a puppet, a theatrical actor—these are the words of an American, a senator. He does what he is ordered to do, when he is ordered to do it. The people who control him
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decided that he would look like a hero if they put him in a green t-shirt. He doesn't part with it now, with that green t-shirt. He is a comedian, a pure creation of the mass media. I read this
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phrase to to perhaps understand that, probably, for some he is not yet the Moor, the little Moor, who has already done his duty. And perhaps there are some obligations to someone, to the conditional deep state, the globalists, obligations that he must finish. That
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is the first. Why? what is stopping him on the path to good. The second is, after all, his own sick essence. He revels in power, and he understands that without this power he will be reduced to zero. He understands that
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they will take away, and will try to take away, and will be taking away everything he has hoarded. The third.
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Undoubtedly, he has become rich during this time. the stage he has occupied since 2022 is extremely important to him. Before 2022, he was of no interest to anyone anymore. Everyone understood.
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And I will remind you, a week, I think, before the war began, The New York Times wrote a scathing article about him, where, well, if there were profanities there, it would just be his last name, f***, his last name, f***, f
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***everything through. Yes. But instead they wrote that he was a worthless buffoon, an actor who deceived everyone , unable to do anything in his own country. That was an article in The New York Times. After everyone decided on
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their roles, after this green t-shirt was put on and so on and so forth, The New York Times immediately rewrote it, wrote a new article, an editorial, where he turned out to be a national hero there, and so on and so forth.
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I’m saying that since 2022, for him, for a person who, mm, probably loved and hated the audience—I think any jester, any actor who performs on stage and is forced to make the audience laugh, I’m sure he both loves and
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hates it. Loves in the sense that he really needs the applause. This is the essence of acting. It’s not good or bad. It’s psychology. Hates, because he is terribly uncomfortable that he feels the audience still perceives him as a clown, mocks him, uh, says all
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sorts of or thinks all sorts of nasty things, demands that he perform certain numbers. I am sure that such a cross-relation exists. And then imagine , in 2022, he gets a completely different podium. He travels and communicates with kings, presidents,
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billionaires. He is applauded for the first 2 years by congresses, senates, parliaments, some national assemblies.
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He is met by the top officials of various states. He begins to communicate with those who twist these top state officials around their fingers. Can you imagine what kind of brain transformation has occurred during this time?
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It’s a drug. Very serious. It’s not just a drug; I think it’s a complete rewiring of his neural pathways. That is why it is terrifying for him to leave this stage. He needs it; it is his life. He is not
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interested in how many Ukrainian spectators will be left. He is already playing a different game now. He is a smart person; he is a talented person.
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I am not saying he is a good person; I am saying he is a smart person. He cannot help but understand where everything is heading. He cannot fail to understand this. He has long been taking steps to leave in what he
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considers a dignified way. What does dignified mean? Dignified for him means maintaining influence in the world, remaining untouchable, and keeping what has been earned through this military path, so to speak. All these vast, untold riches—preserving them so they
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aren't taken away. To do this, one needs to bargain and negotiate. And this is where he, being a smart person, is starting to feel and realize that he will be betrayed. This is the second explanation, or rather, the second
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point as to why he is not choosing the path of goodness and peace. Because he still hasn't reached a deal. He is extremely afraid that once he is no longer in power, he will be dealt with.
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In principle, his fear is justified because he holds a massive amount of information, and he has also attracted an enormous amount of hatred due to the evil, grief, and misfortune that have covered our country since he began his
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leadership. This is the second point as to why he is not playing at peace. He could play at it. I am sure that his conversation with the President of Serbia was primarily aimed at negotiating some kind of relationship
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with the Kremlin. I am sure that Putin will not meet with him personally, but he will send his emissaries for this, if necessary. I am sure of that as well . I believe that such conversations are taking place. I believe such topics are
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being discussed. At one time, an intelligence officer, a former head of Ukraine’s military intelligence, confirmed my conclusions that Ukraine is negotiating with Russia. Well, these negotiations are happening; they simply aren't talked about or publicized.
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These negotiations are primarily taking place through intelligence channels. That is normal. That is how it happens all over the world. Even when these direct negotiations are closed, we will communicate through Ivanov, Petrov, Sidorov, or Goldstein, or Mr. Smith, or
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whoever. There will always be intermediaries like us who understand. These negotiations are underway. I am sure Zelensky is making such overtures.
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It is not as if he has become an independent figure. No, no, he has not.
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He is a dependent figure, very dependent. And I think you were right to bring up the example of this security detail, which they say surrounds him in such tight circles that there isn't anyone of his own left in there. And how it will behave, no
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one knows. What order it will receive at a certain moment. I think that is true. But I think that he still, looking at what is happening in the world, is trying—no matter how strange this may sound to some, and no
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matter how much people might start mocking me now—but it seems to me that he is trying to play his own game, and in some places, it is working for him. This is a disaster for Ukraine, I know that. But meanwhile, since we are
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talking about the character or the personnel, that is the case. Maxim, can you describe any scenarios under which he manages to stay, because , to be honest, I don't see any. I understand that in terms of information policy, if peace approaches—or rather
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, during peace—they will be looking for a scapegoat, as the Ukrainian expression goes. Someone needs to be labeled as guilty, and while doing so, say that you both won or that no one won. To balance things out, yes, to
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somehow level this information and psychological space. And it is necessary to designate who is to blame.
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And it seems to me that everything will be blamed on Zelensky. Things like the breakdown of the NATO negotiations. We will touch upon this topic of abandoning NATO in 2022 later today.
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This became a stumbling block, according to the leader of the Servant of the People party. So, under what circumstances, I repeat again, could Zelensky actually remain at the helm and stay untouched? There are no such scenarios. Under no circumstances can
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he remain at the helm for long. His time has come. This is precisely what causes his, first of all, malice, foolish orders, including this stupid operation to destroy Russian retail chains, which led to the multiple destruction of everything Ukrainian in
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the end. Foolish orders, his dashing between Europe, the sheikhs of the Middle East, and his dashing between the tops or towers—not of the Kremlin , but of Washington—all of this is caused by the fact that he understands that the end is near: at the very least
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, the end of his leadership, the end of this throne. He understands that more and more in the world, they are looking at him from a negative point of view.
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He understands it is specifically him. This is extremely important for Ukraine , by the way, that the world has started to differentiate Zelensky and his cronies from Ukraine as a whole.
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Because, well, looking at this, what's-his-name, Umerov, or at the speaker, yes, or at the speaker of parliament, at that guy who said that Ukrainians are...
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scum that deserve to be driven out of their holes with sticks. Yes, he said it himself, those are his words. Uh, so the world has started to differentiate.
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Look, their meetings aren't happening now, and they are being refused meetings. Moreover, a speaker refused to meet with Stefanchuk. The speaker of the Hungarian parliament refused a meeting. Yes, she says, we have nothing to talk about with this character. What
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is all this for? Well, and so on. I, um , am answering this way to say that the world the world, uh, is ceasing to be a guarantor or some kind of haven for Zelenskyy where he can easily retreat.
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He feels this, he understands this. Europe, which until recently was a sturdy umbrella for him, is changing very quickly. And these changes will take place as early as 2027. And for him, these will be irreversible changes . And he won't be able to change these
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changes, excuse the tautology. I know, Europeans told us this. He was pushing to get into Europe as a sort of secretary general of a European NATO.
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There has long been talk in Europe about creating their own European military alliance, independent of the US. And he saw himself as that boss. He wanted that, but there are plenty of their own bosses here. Therefore, he understands that they will, uh, dump
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him on this appointment. In summary, he will no longer rule Ukraine for long. I cannot answer today exactly how these events will come to pass. There are several variations. The best thing for all of us and for Ukraine, and who
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knows, maybe for him too, is a voluntary renunciation of power, a resignation statement, and leaving for somewhere where they will offer him some guarantees. I think that, most likely, it will be Israel, possibly America, maybe Britain. But Britain is
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a risky country for him. It might guarantee one thing and then do another . Then they'll say he sniffed some Clever in the end. Uh, therefore, but for all of us this would be the optimal option. What other technical options
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could there be? First and foremost, on the tip of everyone's tongue and more obvious is a military junta. Because to believe that the punitive system built under Zelenskyy, and the judicial system largely destroyed by him, will be in a position to legally challenge
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his current stay in the presidential seat, to which he has no right under the constitution of Ukraine. Believing in that, well, you shouldn't. It will not happen today. Just as one shouldn't expect an impeachment from the Ukrainian parliament. Well, first of
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all, it’s not really a parliament, by and large, and second, you have to understand who is sitting there, and for the time being, at any rate, they won’t be voting for any kind of impeachment. So, well, that's how it is
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. Do you mean a military junta, that Zelensky, surrounded by some number of military personnel, like in the film " Secretary of State," or rather the series, right, will hide somewhere in western Ukraine and put up resistance?
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Is that what you mean? No, no, I actually mean that the military will most likely in the near future influence, uh-huh, force him to step aside. That’s what I think. He won’t hide anywhere and he won’t put up any resistance. He,
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well, you’d have to be a complete fool to believe yourself. To believe his words that he wants, after being president, to walk calmly through the streets of Ukrainian cities without being killed. He is lying, I am sure of
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it. He is, I am sure, engaging in wishful thinking. I think that public opinion polls are working nonetheless.
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I think the SBU officers are still writing him reports and memos about what is happening in Ukraine. He reads them sometimes. I think he understands perfectly well how Ukrainians actually feel about him. Even the court-appointed KIIS, which is always
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drawing up ratings for him about how almost everyone loves him, or not everyone anymore, but half, or not even half, but a little less, or not even a little less, but a third, and which inflates those ratings, always inflates
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them. Even they couldn't hide the fact that over 70 percent of Ukrainians believe that Zelensky is the originator of this bloody corruption that is flourishing in Ukraine today. They believe he is its source. They don't just think he is aware of it from the
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sidelines, right, but that he is in on it and has a share. Even that they couldn't hide anymore. Therefore, Zelensky understands perfectly well, I am sure of this, that he is in a precarious situation personally today.
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And in part, he is going all in. In part, he is going all in. He is fulfilling his tasks to further prolong the military conflict and prevent the conclusion of peace. The simplest question, Yuri, the very simplest. Year
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twenty-two, the month of March. Russian and Ukrainian delegations meet in Istanbul and practically agree on a fairly favorable peace between our countries. And then, at the command of that scoundrel, the Englishman Johnson, the Ukrainian delegation turns around, negotiations are broken off, and
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that’s where it all ends. The simplest question that no one asks him, because it's clear that all those questions are filtered there. Why was it done that way? What was decided so badly in Istanbul, or what bad path
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were they approaching in Istanbul, that it was necessary to break off those negotiations? What was so dangerous there for Ukraine, for that situation back in twenty-two, when a million people hadn't died yet, when 10 million hadn't yet fled the country by March,
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hadn't left the country, when there was still infrastructure, when there were factories, when Akhmetov was smelting his steel and was satisfied, when the Black Sea was open, when those damn drones weren't equipped with this filth that makes them impossible to shoot
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down, killing people in such numbers— when all of that didn't exist yet, what got in the way, what was the reason?
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Well, the reason here, you see, I will try to answer, well, just rhetorically. Because, look: you rightly noted that before the war started (yes, everyone calls it a war), they were starting to squeeze him hard, including us seeing
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how Akhmetov, well, "Kordon" appeared on the TRK Ukraine channel and said that for me, Zelensky is dead. In general, they were leaking him. His rating was negligible. After February 24th, his rating, you could say, jumped . But if he had gone for peace, do you
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think his rating would have remained this high? And that’s probably what this is about. They outlined it to him: "Look, you’ll be finished or you continue." That is the only thing I think. Either, well, they promised huge money, and in case of a no, well, then
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we will simply finish you off. Well, that's just something I can only assume .
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In this sense, he placed his own hide above the lives and fates of both the country and all Ukrainians. Therefore, he couldn't care less what happens to the country and what happens to the Ukrainians. I have no doubt about that.
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I remember his stories about how he loves Donbas. And I remember how he called the residents of Donbas not people, but specimens. And he called the residents of Crimea non-people as well. I remember all of that. He actually has both love and hatred for
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the audience. Love in the sense of applause. He craves it. He really wants the hall to applaud him. Hatred, like anyone who has spent years making people laugh, he hates those he made laugh. It is the same thing. It is a
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simple, well, it is a perfectly understandable psychology, the psychology of a person, especially looking at him. I am sure that he did not have an easy period of youth in every sense of that word. And a great deal of malice has accumulated against
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all of humanity. And this malice was intensified over time by his future master, Mr. Kolomoisky, who is an extremely difficult person to deal with . And I am sure that he treated his puppets—and he treated Kvartal 95 precisely as puppets, like
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Karabas-Barabas—he treated and interacted with them just like that very Karabas-Barabas in the fairy tale.
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And Zelensky's hatred in this sense was only spurred on; it was nurtured, it grew and grew. It grew and grew, it grew towards everything conditionally alive. And today it has spilled over, or rather, not today, but back then, in
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'22, in '22, when he began taking world stages, when he believed that he was a statesman, a high-ranking politician, a master of destinies. How many destinies have been decided by him since then?
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How many people—hundreds of thousands , and today people say, and rightly so, that we are talking about one and a half million already killed. How many orders were given to destroy opponents?
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How many? This is all measured, well, in huge, huge numbers. And I repeat, in connection with this, a most serious metamorphosis occurred with his head, his cells, and everything, everything, everything.
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That is how it is. You mentioned today regarding NATO, yes, and why they didn't join. We were discussing this yesterday on air with People's Deputy Anna Skorokhod. Uh, exactly this moment . She is one of the first, well,
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probably the first, who has started to speak publicly now about the fact that we need to remove NATO, the aspiration for NATO, but at the same time keep the course for the EU. I would like you to comment on these voices of adequacy
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that have started to appear within the Ukrainian political scene, yes, and there is Goncharenko, but Goncharenko has a contradiction. He wants to use this as a card, rather than making the first step to show Russia that we are
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supposedly ready for, well, for a peace track. And Skorokhod says: "On the contrary, we need...no, wait, more precisely, Goncharenko says the opposite, that we must sit at the negotiating table and say: 'Look, we will remove from the Constitution what
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Petro Alekseevich, well, his, one might say, brother-in-arms, inserted in '19, on February 7th, and only then will it somehow influence peace'." So, how can you comment on these movements? Where is this coming from? Why, for what purpose is all this being done?
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Yuri, he is his breadwinner, not a brother-in-arms. Don't. Well, formally, he has now been deprived of his party card.
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Yes, formally, that is a minor matter. No one has deprived him of his ration, no one has deprived him of his envelope .
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And that is the question. That is where the question lies. I asked Ana this question yesterday, yes. There. But who is actually behind Honcharenko? Because he is allowed to do things for which others are currently in prison. His
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TikToks and resources aren't being taken down, unlike other opposition figures. Including mine. They took down 46 of my TikToks. Well, that's just by the way.
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There. Well, he is a People's Deputy, that's one. Two, he has been a public figure for a long time. Three, he hasn't left the halls of the EU and European Parliament for a long time.
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All of this still acts as a certain protection for him. And as for the fact that he is a priori a bootlicker for Poroshenko, I have no doubts about that . And this confectioner is feeding and dancing with him for now. Uh, let's get
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back to Honcharenko a bit later and everything else. My attitude is as follows: it sounds extremely stupid in general. "Let's renounce NATO." When NATO says: "Get the hell out of here, go away, forget about any damn NATO.
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You are not coming here. We don't care what you wrote in your constitution, even if you write it in three constitutions, or seventeen court rulings, or swear to each other on the NATO charter. We don't care, you are
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not coming here. The question is closed . It is not happening. It will not be so. This is what NATO says. It's not me saying it, not you, not Putin, not Xi Jinping, this is what NATO says. No, no
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, guys, you don't—that was clear even then, when Poroshenko included it in the constitution. It was purely a political, domestic political maneuver, moreover. Not even a foreign policy maneuver, a domestic political maneuver . Poroshenko was trying to extend his
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presidency, to rally around himself those who still believed in him a little, and, perhaps, to draw someone else closer. Nothing more. It wasn't a path to NATO. It was too clear. And too obvious, and the Russian steps were
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calculated even back then, that Russia would not allow it. A war would start in the event that Ukraine joined that very alliance. In short, it looks very ridiculous when our pathetic politicians start talking for one reason or another about how they are
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going to withdraw from NATO. From a NATO that no one has entered yet and where they aren't planning to let Ukraine in. No one brings a bucket of burning kerosene into their house.
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There are no such fools. Perhaps later, but by then, nothing will be left of the bucket, by the way. It will burn to hell along with the kerosene. That's where it will all end. It is simply leading to the disaster of our country.
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Therefore, you know, I wouldn't advise discussing all these things at all. They have already been decided. NATO says no. The States say no. Who?
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Wait, Maxim, why then was this issue raised and considered key? According to David Arakhamia in an interview with Natalka Maseychuk, it was at the Istanbul negotiations. And that was the most important issue there. Why then is this a topic for discussion?
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It is not a topic for discussion and will not be a topic for discussion. And what Arakhamia said, according to Natalka Maseychuk, I don't have to believe anyone. Not Arakhamia.
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Not what was said in that public interview. We all saw it. I don't know, it doesn't matter, not her nor him. I am not obliged to believe any of the Zelensky administration. And I don't believe it. I don't believe that it is
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extremely important for Russia that Ukraine removes this phrase from its Constitution. Realities are what matter to them, and they will achieve these realities; since they’ve already started and got bogged down in this, there won’t be any other way. And
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this war, in one form or another, will lead to there being no NATO bases in Ukraine, and the Black Sea will be cut off from Ukraine precisely so that no one even thinks about there being a NATO base on the Black Sea. I mean,
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from the side that abuts Russian geopolitical interests. Therefore, that is not what is important to them, and they have stated as much. What is important to them is a change of power in Kyiv. That is obvious. They call it
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things like denazification and demilitarization. For them, this is an extremely important point. What is important for them is that at the head of Ukraine there are, let’s say, people who are capable of negotiation —perhaps not very loyal, but at least
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people who understand geography. I think that is what Russia needs today in terms of its strategy for regime change in Ukraine. That’s one. Two.
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For them, clearly, they demand this. Disarmament of Ukraine is necessary, and they will pursue this. I am talking now about what they will do. Three. I repeat, they couldn't care less what Ukraine writes regarding NATO. Most likely, Ukraine will eventually rewrite
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this phrase and remove it under pressure from NATO itself, when the alliance says once again:" Cross it out , because you aren't coming to us, and we aren't inviting you. "Therefore, discussing bait like" let's cross out the phrase 'we are not joining NATO'
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and everything will be fine. "I don't see the point. This is not for today, it's not the issue of the day, it's not a strategy. Ukraine is not joining NATO . That’s it. Period. Now, regarding what you asked about—my attitude
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toward the fact that people have started talking about peace more and more often. Yes, thank God, people like me have been speaking out, demanding peace, and offering ways to achieve it since the very beginning of the war, and even before that. And if 2019, or
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even 2020, had ended with Zelensky at least partially fulfilling his campaign promises, there would have been no war at all. Remember the words of a great politician—specifically a politician, because I think Machiavelli would have painted his portrait. Berlusconi was
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the late Prime Minister of Italy, who served for a very long time; a very sharp gentleman. He said about Zelensky :" I would never shake hands with this gentleman who brought war to his country and who had every reason to
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ensure that it did not happen. "And we are outlining variations for establishing good-neighborly relations with all of our neighbors. Well, for a long time, decades perhaps, the fact that those who recently profited from the war in one way or another, from one
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envelope or another, have started talking about this today—you just need to understand that all envelopes today are earned. One way or another, directly or indirectly, they are earned on blood; they are filled with money that is soaked in blood. It cannot be
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any other way in the Ukrainian economy today. No, it doesn't work. Simply because of its absence. And the shadow economy is entirely soaked in blood.
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Therefore, those who recently received envelopes of blood money and are talking about peace today, personally for me, have not changed as people. I remember perfectly well which laws they voted for. I remember perfectly well how they supported militarism until
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recently. I remember perfectly well what role they played in turning Ukraine into a toy in their hands. I remember all of this perfectly, and I will never believe in that, neither yours nor mine.
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I am not currently yours. And I will never believe that these people have changed. No, so I do not want to believe in their sincerity.
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But I do believe that quantity sooner or later turns into quality. And since politicians like me are currently abroad, and our voices are far less audible than those who have access to parliamentary rostrums, especially in the European Union, I believe it is
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good that voices calling for peace, rather than war, will be heard there more often. And in this sense, I believe that the number of these voices is increasing and will eventually lead to some quality. That is why I am not
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going to change my attitude toward those who once profited from the war, nor toward the" green servants, "nor toward the other national traitors who are called deputies today. But at the same time, not, well, let's put it this
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way, I am satisfied that many of them have started, for one reason or another , most likely for selfish motives, to suddenly worry that oh-oh-oh, war has arrived, we need peace urgently. Better that way, at least. The more people who
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say the word peace, the sooner it will arrive. I believe in that. Maxim, well look, they are united. You said that our voice doesn't sound as good. It's clear that it's heard better from those in power and is immediately
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replicated across various pro-government media outlets. But, here is the question: Is there an opposition today, a united one, and are you ready to support, let's say, to unite with those same people you know as, well, as people from, well, as you said, from
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which side, what they voted for? If you have a common course, for example, tomorrow they tell you:" Let's say Skorokhod, Goncharenko, Poroshenko, everyone, let's go for peace. "or against someone. Are you ready to unite with these people in order to have
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peace? Poroshenko is not the opposition. Well, Poroshenko no, he is not the opposition and never has been. And I want to remind you that at the end of 2018, it was he who carried out the staging in the Black Sea with the ships, yes, in
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order to then declare martial law. He really needed a Russian ship to sink a Ukrainian one, for Ukrainian sailors to die, so he could introduce full martial law and postpone the elections he was clearly losing. He did all of this
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exclusively for the sake of power. That is, he is perhaps more seasoned than Zelensky in life experience due to his age, but he is absolutely not a man for peace, absolutely not. Therefore, I do not consider him, or any of the other
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hangers-on, those who have been sitting in parliament or the Cabinet for a long time, as such. I do not consider them opposition. That's a lie. That's all.
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This is not opposition. They voted just the same, sat at the distribution of envelopes, accepted those envelopes themselves, and reaped their own profits from this war. That is how I view it. I consider other people to be the opposition. And I know that today,
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wait, not like that. Negotiations are underway today about uniting the opposition, which I consider real and which, unfortunately, is currently in exile. It is not currently in Kyiv, because Can you name them? Can you name them?
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From whom? I can. Let's do it this way. I will not tell you. I will not tell you who I am personally entering into negotiations with, because that is not right. But I will tell you, I will tell you whom I
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treat with respect. Will that work? Of course. I treat Sasha Dubinsky, Artem Dmitruk, and Yevgeny Shevchenko with respect. I respect Muraev’s intellect. I believe that there are, let’s say, smaller caliber young men and women who are going into politics and will later
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prove themselves wonderfully. But I believe that there are Ukrainians, there are Ukrainian politicians who are truly the opposition, who proved their opposition not in word, but in deed, who did not sit and wait for the bridges in Kiev to be shelled, for the
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metro to be destroyed, for buses with people to be destroyed, who risked their lives, their freedom, everything, bringing people the truth about what is happening, proposing ways to solve the problem. I think I haven't listed everyone, intentionally not everyone. I
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could list a dozen more names, but I assure you that each of them is a strong, decent person who, in my opinion, is capable of forming a real opposition to the regime and to those who are actually part of this regime
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but just want to replace the king— well, you can't even call him a king.
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Well, this one who is sitting on the throne right now, who has climbed onto the throne. They want to replace him with their own asses. I believe that there are such people in Ukraine. And, by the way, I want to draw your
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attention to the fact that, for example , Dubinsky and Shevchenko themselves are in prison; they are political prisoners today. They were thrown there on trumped-up charges. I am a professional prosecutor. I know how to read legal documents, especially those
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of a criminal procedural nature. What they have been charged with is such nonsense, such garbage. It is so—the word" unprovable "doesn't even fit here , because they were charged with things that in principle cannot be a crime, or
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that these specific guys could not have committed. They just needed to be packed away to intimidate the others, and maybe even destroy them. As far as I remember, an assassination attempt was being prepared against one of them.
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Well, that’s about it, I suppose. Yesterday, a final question. Back when I was still in Ukraine, and my comrades were rejoicing that we were being given air defense, being given air defense, I always looked at it skeptically. I said
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:" Do you realize that the air defense will shoot them down, but it will fall right onto civilian houses? "And yesterday, I think, yes, information appeared in the Wall Street Journal that Ukrainians, the Ukrainian military , no longer need Patriot. They have now
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learned to shoot down ballistics by diverting them, well, with the help of electronic warfare, diverting them to a different target. And yesterday, Anna Skarokhod also confirmed in an interview that, in fact, we have long been diverting cruise and ballistic
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targets off course. But I know that when drones are diverted, they aren't always controllable. And just now, we saw the shelling from the sixth to the seventh. A huge number of civilian homes were hit in Pryluky and Kremenchuk. They were struck and
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affected, and there are casualties. There are 100 injured and 29 dead. Five children in Pryluky. What do you know about this method? And this statement essentially undermines all the claims that Russia is striking residential buildings. Well, it kind of provides an
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excuse now. What do you know about this , and is there any antidote to it? Is it even legal to divert targets this way and use this type of air defense?
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Yuri, I want to draw your attention once again to the fact that I am not a military expert, specifically regarding weaponry or the use of such equipment.
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And of course, it would probably be more reasonable to hear from specialists on these matters. As for the legal side of the issue, well, how legal is it?
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A war is, is, is going on. You know, to answer a question with a question: what should one do? A missile, a drone, or something else is flying in. What should be done? Watch where it’s flying?
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No, but diverting it into residential homes isn't an option either. How... I didn't say that this missile should be diverted into residential homes. I said that this is a war, and in this war, the sides are shelling each other.
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Using various types of weaponry. And they are trying, I think, or at least the military should be trying, to mitigate the consequences and minimize these negative outcomes. That is probably what these electronic warfare systems are for. That is probably what
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other mechanisms are for—to divert things, shoot them down, and so on. As it turns out, we remember this since 2022. I remember perfectly well how Zelensky's propaganda claimed that, um, it was Russian missiles that hit various high-rise buildings, even
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though Kyiv residents themselves said:" No, the missile was flying somewhere else, it was shot down right over that high-rise, and it, its debris along with the interceptor, fell onto that building, and people died. "How can one say how a military person in air
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defense should have acted here? Wait for what? For where it would fly? I don't know. I cannot judge on that specific matter. I cannot judge this matter because, at the very least, such judgments will have two sides. Someone
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will say:" No, you shouldn't shoot; you see houses there. "And, by the way, it’s no secret that the military often hides behind human shields and residential blocks, placing ammunition depots and firing positions there; they shoot from there, and then it gets hit
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back. That’s not a secret, right? Someone will say that’s wrong, while someone else will ask the question I just posed. How should this air defense operator act when he sees a target incoming? What should be done with it?
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How long should he wait? At what point in the trajectory should it be shot down? I will not answer that question for you. In my view, these are consequences. Consequences of what has occurred. These are the terrible details that now number in the
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thousands every day. These are the terrible details that did not become the cause. The cause of all this was the national betrayal by our country's leadership, which allowed our country to be used in a geopolitical struggle between other nations and, for example,
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Russia, or primarily Russia. This was the cause. If this hadn't happened, there would be no such drones and no such missiles. Moreover, it happened, the year '22 began, the first blood was shed on both sides, and they went to
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Istanbul. It could have ended there, but remember how that blond scum said:" Why don't you keep fighting. "And then, damn it, he shat himself on the train while traveling there, yes, Johnson, when a Russian drone was flying there,
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remember, in Western Ukraine? That was just a month ago. He was squealing there, damn, how could this happen? You can't do this to me. Yet he was the one who said:" Let's fight. "And the one who calls himself the president of
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Ukraine said:" Let's fight. "" Let them die, let the drones fly, let the missiles fly, let them shoot and kill, and we will mobilize more, and we will ask for more money. "Of course, we'll steal a lot, excuse my French, but so
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be it. But, there was a wonderful film, it was called*The Toy*, a French film.
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Pierre Richard played the lead role in it. And in this film, the negative role , the villainous role, was played by— I forgot the name of that famous French actor. He played a rich man, a corporation director, the owner of a
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corporation. Who everyone hated because he was very cynical, evil, and didn't like people. And there is a scene where this rich man talks to his manager. He says:" Take off your pants and walk around naked through the floors,
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through the departments, and do some work. "And the other starts to take off his pants already. And the rich man asks him:" What are you doing? "He says :" What do you mean, what? You just told me, Mr. President, to go without
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pants. "He says:" So who among us is more terrible? Me, who told you to do it, or you, who are ready to carry out any order, to fulfill this nasty command and walk around with your bare ass? So, I gave you an example of who
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turned out to be more terrible in this situation. Johnson, who carried out the task set by the hypothetical globalist, who gave the task. Oh, well, excuse me, yes, or Zelensky, yes, that's correct. Or Zelensky, who executed it, saluted, and
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shut down the peace talks. I calculated that since that moment, there have been over 1.5 million deaths. And these figures, they were not pulled out of thin air. They were voiced constantly, they were just airbrushed later. But recently, no one has been shy anymore.
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Budanov says: "We need 30,000 a month to replenish." Then, admittedly, he caught himself. Well, in general, it is clear that they need to replenish. And the Polish Prime Minister says: " Monthly losses are 27,000." It’s all right there. 27-30. Multiply that by a
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year. Multiply it. It comes to about 1.5 million. Exactly right. That's how it works out.
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1.5 million dead. A heap, a huge number of disabled, wounded, who are incapacitated or have limited capacity.
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This is what Zelensky's decision represents today. Let’s fight for the Zelensky-Johnson agenda. They tell the soldiers and officers that they will be taken care of, and so on and so forth.
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By the most modest estimates, after the war ends, 6 million people will return home who will have combat veteran certificates. To support such a number of people, I mean with special pensions , special payments, social security support, and special medical insurance
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and care, you need at least, at the very minimum, about 25 billion dollars a year. 25 billion dollars a year. The real Ukrainian gross domestic product, pre-war, real, not inflated, not pulled out of thin air, not bubbly, but what
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was actually produced, was about 100-110 billion a year. That is the gross product. That is not revenue.
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That is what was produced—work, services. Does anyone believe that Ukraine after the war—and that was a peacetime figure—does anyone believe that Ukraine after the war will give disabled people 25 billion dollars a year? What complete nonsense. Today, the people who are fighting are already
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deceived in advance; they are already marks. They will simply be dumped, they will simply be left to their own devices. And it is also important that soldiers and officers understand this.
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This, by the way, might perhaps become a catalyst for change, yes. How to control this trigger, that is also an important question. But, for example, well, how to control this inflated expectation, this mismatch of expectations, because the reality will
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indeed be harsh, when you have seemingly given your most valuable assets, your health, your life, risked your life for a state that has no use for you. Well, I think one can understand, if an elderly person's pension is 60 dollars, 60 euros, or
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maybe 80, then you can understand how this state cares for those who gave and labored for its benefit.
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Oh, and by the way, Poroshenko's name came up on air today. I'll just mention , during the time this figure was president, Ukraine lost 2 million pensioners, according to pension fund data. That is, they were there at the
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time of the Maidan, and then they were gone. This is without taking the eastern regions into account. They just ceased to exist. People died earlier.
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They did not leave for warm countries, they did not move to America, they perished prematurely. The entire state tariff policy worked for this purpose.
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It was precisely for this, among other things, that the number of "unnecessary " Ukrainians was thinned out. The same thing is happening today with the front line. This must not be forgotten when someone tries to call these people the
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opposition. They are the same enemies of Ukraine, the same national traitors as those we see today. One must never forget this. 2 million pensioners are gone. 2 million. I...They started talking about the plague, babbling this nonsense about how there is an outbreak
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, but it won't reach Ukraine. Well, in short, I don't want to retell that. I want to present different figures. The plague, in its time, in the terrible days of the Middle Ages, wiped out about 30%of Europe's population. 30%.
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There are different estimates. In some countries it was 50%, but the average was 30%of the population. And now look.
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10 million have left Ukraine, and probably around two million have already died. And those who will be incapacitated or have limited capacity.
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That is 12 million. That is as of today . This is, in essence, a third of Ukraine's population in 2019. Remember, they did a census back then, he even had that friend Dubilet. They did a census of the Ukrainian population
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using SIM cards. And using SIM cards they counted the Ukrainian population, determining that 37 million people were actually living in Ukraine. Well, that is also an inflated figure. At that moment, there were already about 33-34 million people living in Ukraine. But
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let's assume even 37. During Zelensky's years in power, minus 12 million. That is, a third. I have a question: so where is the plague? In a laboratory in Irkutsk, which is, I am sure, a special military facility there. And no one can
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get in or out of there. And let me also remind you, Russia, unlike Ukraine, preserved its sanitary service, preserved the system of public control over public health and safety, epidemiological safety. Let me remind you that after the Maidan, the
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sanitary-epidemiological service in Ukraine was destroyed in the literal sense of the word. It was closed, disbanded, and they said that we don't need this. But at the same time, secret American biolabs were opened. And the thing that should prevent the spread of
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all this trash, the thing that should, the service that should protect our people from all this plague, it was destroyed. So I have a question, where is the plague? If under Zelensky a third of the population disappeared in
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Ukraine, then what is the plague? This is a rhetorical question, perhaps, this is a topic. Yes, I interrupted you.
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No, no, I'm finished. This topic could, this topic could define the title of the video, "Green Plague." And the example about the toy is just perfect. Maxim Golder was our guest today. Well, this broadcast is also airing on Maxim's YouTube channel.
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Friends, subscribe if you are watching without a subscription. And also, if you are watching on the Lesovsky News YouTube channel, Maxim's YouTube channel is in the description. Maxim, thank you very much for participating.
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It was interesting, truly. Thank you, Yuri. All the best, friends. Take care of yourselves and your loved ones. Until today
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