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What's up? This is George. Today we have boxing legend Odley Harrison. We're fortunate enough that Odley lives in Calabasas, so Odley is going to be with us as often as possible, talking about what's relevant and new in boxing culture.
George Foreman III interviews boxing legend Audley Harrison on his career, insights, and British heavyweight boxing dominance.
Key Takeaways
- Audley Harrison was a pioneer as his own promoter and manager in British boxing.
- His Olympic success helped transform funding and support for British boxing.
- Despite retiring, Harrison remains deeply involved and knowledgeable about the sport.
- British heavyweights are currently dominating due to strong development programs.
- The boxing business and technical aspects require continuous learning and adaptation.
What the video covers
- George Foreman III hosts Audley Harrison to discuss boxing culture and Harrison's career.
- Harrison reflects on his Olympic gold medal and unique role as his own promoter and manager.
- He talks about his retirement in 2015 and thoughts on returning to boxing.
- Harrison shares experiences working with top trainers and managing his boxing and business teams.
- He discusses the evolution and funding of British boxing post-2000 Olympics.
- Insights into Harrison's injury struggles during the Olympics and how he overcame them.
- The conversation covers Lennox Lewis's support and influence on Harrison's career.
- Harrison analyzes current British heavyweight boxing dominance and key fighters to watch.
- He critiques modern fighters' technical skills and the boxing promotional landscape.
- The interview touches on recent boxing events and the sport's growing popularity.
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culture um so thanks to have you thanks for coming on man no my pleasure man thanks for inviting me and uh I'm close calabas is I'm in West Lake the next city over but I'm close and uh this
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Thanks for having you. Thanks for coming on, man.
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you've um recently been um thinking about uh getting into the uh the getting back into the sport um can you talk a little bit about some of the thoughts you have and kind of why you want to get
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No, my pleasure, man. Thanks for inviting me. I'm close. Calabasas is... I'm in Westlake, the next city over, but I'm close.
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like coming up from the Olympics I'm like the first guy who was his who was his own promoter his own manager you were I I was the first guy yeah from the UK so when I turned Pro my deal with the
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And this place is... you've created a great community here, so I'm glad to be a part of it. Yeah, anytime.
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promoted I had a manager a fighter who was a manager cuz you couldn't be your own you couldn't be your own manager for the first 12 months that's right so um I put something else in place so everybody
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Thanks, man. Thanks, man. So tell me, if you don't mind me jumping right into it, you've recently been thinking about getting back into the sport. Can you talk a little bit about some of the thoughts you have and kind of why you want to get back into the actual sport of boxing?
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got to learn the game from the beginning every facet of the game even though I was also the boxer in in in in the gym training so I had the boxing team and I had the the business team so it was like
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Yeah, so, you know, I had my last fight in 2013. I retired officially in 2015. My last fight against Deontay W was 2013. So yeah.
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your own promotional contract you're you're you're in control what in 2004 when I didn't have the contract um then I had to be fighting I was still unbeaten actually I came to America and I was with Al Haymon yeah um still
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So I walked away from boxing like coming up from the Olympics. I'm like the first guy who was his own promoter, his own manager.
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that uh was was amazing but I've just got so much experience and even on the boxing side phel Torrance uh Hall of Fame trainer who was with Eddie FZ for 40 years budy Mur Saluki so I had great
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You were?
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was a sponge and I got given every Nuance of the game game so when I walked away um it's like I walked away with a lot cuz I still it's all there you know so I'm watching these big fights every
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I was the first guy, yeah, from the UK. So when I turned pro, my deal with the BBC, I was the first. I done my deal directly with the broadcaster.
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didn't know you said you were in Jamaica yeah so what happened with lenux is um when I when I was fighting my Olympics when I was in the Olympics lenux sent me a letter he was in training camp to
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So I came out of the gate promoter, manager, fighter, the whole bank, but I put a team in play. So I had a promoter that was promoted, I had a manager, a fighter who was a manager, because you couldn't be your own... you couldn't be your own manager for the first 12 months.
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uhuh I had ruptured my knuckle in the semi-finals my knuckle Hood was tender was totally ruptured I had to get an injection in it for the final I wouldn't be able to box was huge so I kind of was
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That's right.
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they were like you can't box this final the doctors are not going to improve you yeah in boxing you got to be clean shaving in the amateurs that's right I I because of that from the semi-finals to the final I was sitting in the in the
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So I put something else in place. So everybody was still paying out big fees, but at least I got to see where all the money was going. So I had a promoter working for me, I had a manager working for me, matchmaker, everybody working for me.
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he said hey you need to shave Harrison go and shave and he's holding my hands had he saw my hand knuckle I wouldn't have passed I went off to shave it was the day of the finals it took me ages to
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So I got to learn the game from the beginning, every facet of the game, even though I was also the boxer in the gym training. So I had the boxing team and I had the business team. So it was like amazing insights to go through that.
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and I'm in the change room hand is killing me I get a letter there's a letter it's from Lennox Lewis he's in training camp do Lennox sent me a letter said hey I'm so proud of you you're doing an amazing job the whole country
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So when I walked away in 2014, I was kind of burnt out. You know, I was kind of burnt out from fighting the system, like because as a promoter, when you had your own promotional contract, you're in control.
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like nothing def nothing went out there and destroyed the guy so afterwards Lennox invited me to Vegas yeah for his fight with Tua and we we got connected they got me I got to meet all the owners of the hotel they said look you're
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What?
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like just getting those insights having Lennox like I could reach out to and just on the way up was amazing yeah just and I had so much blessings like that yeah and while we're talking about it and then um I want to talk British
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In 2004, when I didn't have the contract, then I had to be fighting. I was still unbeaten, actually. I came to America and I was with Al Haymon.
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opinion on um why and then who are the names that everybody should be paying attention to in British boxing especially the heavyweight division but why is British boxing why are the heavyweights dominating there and then who should we be paying attention to
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Yeah.
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for it because part of the the the thing has happened from the Olympics me winning the gold medal changed boxing because before that boxing was a broke sport so nobody could afford to to to do it as professionals so that was my fight
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Still unbeaten. So I had two fights with Al Haymon, which was amazing. You know, Al Haymon was ahead of the game, obviously. You know what you done with Floyd and Jermaine Taylor and Vernon Forrest, you know, amazing.
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are funded except for boxing so after the Olympic Sydney 2000 we got 4 million and that 4 million land all the boxers to go pro God but stay amateur so we they built the Sheffield Institute of sport built all these team sport
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So being a part of that was amazing, but I've just got so much experience. And even on the boxing side, Phel Torrance, Hall of Fame trainer who was with Eddie FZ for 40 years, Buddy McSaluki. So I had great trainers who taught me everything.
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conol games like the PanAm games I was like I was at University I was 15,000 in debt I'm like I'm broke I'm 27 years of age if you don't give me money I'm going to win your gold medal in two years but
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Like, because they said this is the next Lennox, you know, this is the next guy. So they used in training camps with like six, eight weeks, 10 weeks in training camps. They soaked, like soaked everything, you know. I was a sponge and I got given every nuance of the game.
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Olympics wow so I mean I don't want to blow my blow my hump it but that's the TR that's the reality that's facts so after the Olympics I went off turn pro became you know done what I did but the
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So when I walked away, it's like I walked away with a lot, because I still, it's all there, you know. So I'm watching these big fights every now and again, watching these big fights and technically seeing what the fighters are doing wrong, it just like would, it's just driving me crazy.
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okay and even that I flew from America and I flew to the training camp they asked me to help him out he was fighting the southp Mario Candyland I spent a week in in in the Olympic Village with
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Yo, I didn't know.
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medal at heavyweight and um one more got heavy one more got a medal so we got three in 2008 so the program was coming through fruition yeah where all these guys and girls CU then the girls came in
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So you spent a lot of time with Lennox Lewis in your day?
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more Fighters were coming through developed in the heavyweights whereas normally those heavyweights are going to turn pro earlier they all stayed amateur because the Olympics so du was part of the program he had sparred with there in the program Joey Joyce was part of the
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I didn't know you said you were in Jamaica.
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2000 started at 100% yeah so what happening now what's happening now after that now you're getting these Fighters coming through the the networks matro done a great job now Frank Warren's In the game he's kind of rebuilt he never went away Frank Warren
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Yeah. So what happened with Lennox is, when I was fighting my Olympics, when I was in the Olympics, Lennox sent me a letter. He was in training camp to fight David Tua.
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went away Showtime went away so they' not having exposure obviously UFC's doing an amazing job in America it's a different audience I've been to their fight a different audience but that's galvanized in the UK not as boxing is
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Yeah.
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cu it's always been America dominating with heavyweight about heavyweight it's always been America Domin American Heavy I remember when they tried to create a heavyweight they done a heavyweight thing Michael who passed he was a movie um producer he was a movie director and
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And obviously in the UK it was just like blowing up. I hadn't really met Lennox personally. We bumped into each other in the nightclub one time.
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heavyweight invested so much of his money in there he loved boxing and I remember getting like getting involved with it a little bit and just trying to trying to help it through but you can't really manufact through a heavyweight
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Yeah.
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these kids can go to the amateur gym they can go to the to the Olympic movement and now the Olympics looks like it's gone but they can go to the Olympic movement then they can go pro and when
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But he sent me a letter. I had ruptured my knuckle.
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I won the Olympics the whole country knew who I was now 6 million people knew who I was the moms knew me was the queen knew who I was so I became a a household name everyone knew orley Harrison yeah
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Uh-huh.
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like Golden Boy like in maywether and everybody knows who you are Y and then that's what everyone knew who the boxing champion was that's what America's kind of lost and that's what you know I'm living I'm like that needs to happen
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I had ruptured my knuckle in the semi-finals. My knuckle hood was tender, was totally ruptured. I had to get an injection in it for the final. I wouldn't be able to box. It was huge.
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these little things that I did which is why I'm coming back to boxing because not only do I know how to manage could I manage myself I know because of my trainers I know the training side too and the promotion side I know the whole
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So I kind of was feeling sorry for myself in the change room. It was like 10 out of 10, but I'm like, I am boxing this. They were trying to get me to pull out. I'm like, I am boxing this final no matter what.
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du and when he fought when D fought Youk I'm like I know exactly what he needs to be doing in fact I reached out to his team and I was working with them for about two weeks yeah just like going
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And they were like, you can't box this final. The doctors are not going to improve you.
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what I'm saying I know it so well and um I want to get the like to walk away from it and I I've what so many fights even like like I said Deontay Wilder like Tyson Fury I'm just like technically I I
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Yeah.
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and a lot of people now can can I just make sure you guys heard that matchmaking is an art yeah it's a lost art but it's an art and it's if you're a manager developing a fighter picking his
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In boxing, you got to be clean shaving in the amateurs.
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unfortunately now a lot of the managers in the game don't understand that don't appreciate that and they're picking fights for the promoters they're not picking fights for the fighter there's a fighter development I used to sit with my matchmaker I had Johnny Bross who was
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That's right.
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passed away but these guys I sit sit with on the phone for hours talking about why they' be teaching me or this is cuz I was My Own Boss yeah so been sitting with the Matchmaker and they' tell me why this is the right guy for me
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I, because of that, from the semi-finals to the final, I was sitting in the back room. I didn't get a chance to shave. I had my hand in the ice bucket. So I went to the doctors, had a bit of a shave, the official doctors, the IB doctors, not the Team GB.
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Julius long was 7even and0 from Detroit 6 foot like couldn't make it in basketball he was 6'9 no he was 7 foot2 unbeaten he from the ghetto of Detroit yeah they brought him as my fourth opponent I looked at
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And he said, hey, you need to shave, Harrison. Go and shave. And he's holding my hand. Had he saw my hand knuckle, I wouldn't have passed. I went off to shave. It was the day of the finals. It took me ages to find the shaver. Came back 30 minutes later and he's like, all you've had three fights, you're good to go.
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looked at him and I saw all these mistakes and they told me why Johnny boss got in me I was like perfect opponent he came in Olympic gold medle of my ass he was just like cussing out the perfect guy got everybody against
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Because they were rushing to get to the first fight, the light flies. So I dodged the bullet.
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with this guy that early yeah because they're like this guy is dangerous 70 seven Knockouts they're like so when when I convincing why it ticks all the boxing not just from a boxing development point of view and why it's
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And I'm in the change room, hand is killing me. I get a letter. There's a letter. It's from Lennox Lewis. He's in training camp.
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he's if I make the wrong mistake he's GNA hit me with a shot and I'm out I'm out home time be yeah but it was it was that you know seeing these weaknesses so it was it was that was the kind of thing
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Do Lennox sent me a letter, said, hey, I'm so proud of you. You're doing an amazing job. The whole country is proud of you. Like from one Olympic champion to another, respect, you know.
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understanding and they're they're ruining their Fighters career unfortunately I I really think and I have a question one more British boxing question and then we got to talk about the uh Tyson and and Paul fight but um in terms of matchmaking um and I really
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And it was just like a shot of adrenaline. I kicked off a door. There was a door. I kicked through a door and I was like, nothing, def, nothing. Went out there and destroyed the guy.
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on their own knowledge um especially if because it is a craft there's great managers who will never be great matchmakers I think they're great promoters who would never be great matchmakers you have to rely on someone who actually just lives that every
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So afterwards, Lennox invited me to Vegas for his fight with Tua and we got connected. They got me. I got to meet all the owners of the hotel. They said, look, you're the Olympic champ, but this is the pro world and this is what he looks like at the pro world.
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and in my opinion he shouldn't have fought him the first time because to me without that fight he's right in line for a big title shot it probably in Saudi against one of you know usyk or Dubois or a um Joshua or a fury I think
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So I got, you know, so we just became connected. And, you know, I went to a couple of the camps and just like just getting those insights, having Lennox like I could reach out to and just on the way up was amazing.
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story short why put him in there with uh Zang and then after he gets destroyed honestly and I'm not talking trash it's just if you watch the fight he took a real bad beating you put him in there
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Yeah, just, and I had so many blessings like that.
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exciting fight uh for the promoter absolutely from a management standpoint I'm scratching my head that just didn't make sense all the poal that guy had he was so ex to watch what do you think about that so Joy Joyce is an
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Yeah. And while we're talking about it, I want to talk British boxing for a second and then talk about what happened last weekend. But tell me why it seems like British boxing is dominating at the heavyweight level, is dominating your sport right now.
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potential but that's one of the guys that I've looked at and I've reached out to like when he was coming up be before they make a mistake before they make these errors because I was like fundamentally he's wearing people down
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Yeah. And it's interesting. What's your opinion on why and then who are the names that everybody should be paying attention to in British boxing, especially the heavyweight division? But why is British boxing, why are the heavyweights dominating there? And then who should we be paying attention to that we might not know?
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like a marriage and you and you want to bring a hey let's have a threesome no it's not going to happen because it's so emotionally people are so emotionally invested in this is like maybe your brother or your uncle or a friend or
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Right. So British boxing's always been there or thereabouts. Always had good fighters in every generation. Every generation we've had decent fighters.
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that and the only reason why I probably didn't get BR well we don't want order to come with his name and then try to take over yeah because what I was telling them everything I was telling them they were like are you do you have
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Yeah.
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stuff if he's going to move up and and and and so yeah when he moved up then obviously now he's getting he's got he's got hurt and he's got he's he's now he's falling you know Snakes and Ladders so
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Right now, and part, like I've taken some of the credit for it because part of the thing that has happened from the Olympics, me winning the gold medal changed boxing. Because before that, boxing was a broke sport. So nobody could afford to do it as professionals.
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repeatedly and this is why I've come back because those are the kind of guys that I think I can help the big time because managerially I can match them in the right fight and I can fight for them
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So that was my fight for the sport. So in momentum, when I won the gold medal, first one in 32 years, it gave me, changed my life, but it changed boxing life.
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fighter and it ain't about money ain't about rushing too many fighters right now in this generation being rushing they're not doing it the right way too quick and you know like Joshua came up real quick but he learned on the job and
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So then we became a funded sport. All the Olympic sports are funded except for boxing. So after the Olympic Sydney 2000, we got 4 million. And that 4 million landed all the boxers to go pro, but stay amateur.
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he had the four with um no Lennox early on lost the guy from Chicago yeah he lost to Lennox lost the first fight it was a shock it was a shocker Lennox everyone was shocked Emanuel Stewart was in the other guy's Corner yeah yeah oh
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So they built the Sheffield Institute of Sport, built all these team sport scientists, sport psychologists, cardio, everyone. We just stepped up our game.
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going to tell you right now now hold on no oh my God how can I not Oliver Mcall Oliver Mall oh you're s oh I'm Oliver Mcall with to me was his first knockout loss but you're talking about one of his
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Seeing that now, they could afford to stay amateurs, continue to develop themselves, but also become great pros.
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like correct because he was like learning on the job still L won his title in like 16 or 7 with against Tony Tucker and it was early so he still had to learn and he so he had to change
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Everybody was broke. I was at, in 1998, when I won the Commonwealth Games, like the Pan Am Games, I was like, I was at university. I was 15,000 in debt. I'm like, I'm broke. I'm 27 years of age. If you don't give me money, I'm going to win your gold medal.
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to go to different trainers if you still got that learning you know like me I lost to I I moved from Fel I went to Buddy and I and I was still like learning and they finished you off yeah
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so it's okay to do that but a lot of the fighters now they're like the team like the manager hell no we're not bringing nobody in but I think what you said is a is a good thing to get somebody's eyes
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to look at it because that's what you're do in business like in business they say link with people smarter than yourself you know surround yourself with people smarter than yourself you don't want to be the boss like okay people say I was a
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boss but every boss I had every person around me was equally or smarter than me like Al Heyman I was Al Haymon was my advisor when I came to America you know I had col McMillan who was a former
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world champion and he is some he had fought the system as his own manager I had him managing me so people that can help me Jess hard is my promot he had been a promoter for 10 years so I didn't
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just do it blindly and then I built my team around that with with these experts in place you know and by the way just to you so you were right he had Razer Ruck and then he had Tony Tucker which you
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just said then he fought fank Bruno then Phil Jackson then Oliver McCall took the loss then he got with uh Emanuel Stewart to finish him off and then he went on a tear after that yeah and then the only
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person to get him was hassim Rockman which he looked he did look silly because but it was a freak accident and he came back and destroyed hassim well I wouldn't say it was a freak accident I would say what happened was lenu was
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like when you don't when you cut Corners with preparation so and it's not a cut he like H R I can beat hassim Ramen so Lennox was in Vegas he was filming ocean 11 so he he he he added that in normally
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he would never you would never do that like I've taken those kind of risks but like if you I can beat this guy so Len when filmed in in in Vegas for ocean filled his part then he flew to South
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Africa South Africa's altitude okay R was in altitude six weeks done it the right way I used to have my training camps in Big Bear L would training wherever he trained went there early went there went early he
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trained out there four weeks he was ready like Freddy for this moment Lennard went there 10 maybe 10 days out so I think altitude tore him up wasn't as prepared wasn't as ready and he and he got caught with a beautiful you know
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he was laxi D the and then he fixed and obviously fixed that the r the payback he called it the payback and he went and fixed that and he was like with Hass with um Emanuel Stewart and he came out there
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ready like Freddy you know and um that's the kind of mentality that I took into my second fight with Danny R uh Williams like payback like ready like Freddy and I think that's what Joshua why he doesn't want to retire because I feel
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like he feel he has that kind of ready like Freddy in him I um I I know you have a hard stop in a little bit so I want to make sure we talk about um this past weekend and then if we can go back
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to British boxing cuz we got to we talk we got to talk Tyson Fury real quick but um last week Mike Tyson let me just throw one thing before you let me just throw actually finishing off the talk
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about the heavyweights in the UK I live in America now I've lived in America since 2007 right in I mean full time since 20 I was in 2004 so I am here in America and we have whole like you just said we
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have plenty of heavyweight we have a production line because of that Olympics and because of the funding we have holy B guys staying amateur longer coming through as a pro better so we have that system fixed the system that's broken
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right now is America we need to find an American heavyweight amen it's not it's like cuz I'm here in America where is the next heavyweight coming from America where's the next Deontay Wilder where's the next Mike Tyson where the next Holi
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where the next r b where's the next Shannon Bri there's so many where are they I still feel like we have some of the best athletes in the world but they're not in they're not in boxing so that's what needs to happen right that's
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what we need to find an American heavyweight who that can be brought through because I'm here you get me I'm not I've been here my wife my business this is this is home so like I said Michael King tried to find the
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heavyweight you got people basket but it has to be young ideally like young enough or like we can develop yeah like because like I said I have everything here I can't go back to England right now this not practical with my wife my
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kids my whole business you get what I'm saying but an American that could be charismatic that has the potential to cross over you know I'm looking for that person I'm telling you I'm looking for that person because I'm I'm glad you said it I'm
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glad you said it I I'm looking because there's somebody there's there's a there's a there's like I said I walked away from the game and there's a reason why I've come back to the game and there's like it's crazy the universe
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works look where I am I'm here talking to you I know you boxed you went out and Bo it's it's crazy how do you but I am looking to guide somebody to a championship well we need to have a talk
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about this offline um because I'm here but I think more importantly um we it's not more importantly but something I want to talk about it's interesting so I have this we have this like gym here in Calabasas and um I was just I I really
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think this would be a great place to develop championship boxers because number one we have like here we have a great training staff um Kelly who's a nutritionist and so on and so forth I think a great facility we're about to
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update it hiking running it's you can train all year around you're here I actually think and people can focus we're out in the Hills I think this would be one of the greatest places just to bring all types of Fighters to come
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here and develop but if you're listening we're looking for a heavyweight and you heard the man uh look for a heavyweight looking for a heavyweight and to your point um and my father used to say this all the time he says boxing lives and
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dies by the health of the like an American heavyweight All Ships rise when we have a a big captivating American heavyweight and we saw this weekend Mike Tyson who was one of the last big heavyweights to capture everybody's
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imagination gets in the ring at age 58 65 million households over 100 million people watching at the same time the biggest live stream boxing event ever I I think only second to The Rumble in the Jungle um so we it still shows when you have an
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American heavyweight in the ring the world will watch um while we're talking about it what do you think about what happened this weekend there's a lot of criticism I I love like there were sponsorships there was a full Stadium
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there was Netflix making history being the first platform to live stream something like that I like it for those reasons but there's a lot of CR criticism what do you think so you know um there's a saying like you know
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everyone's got opinions everyone's got you know it's like can't be guided by that you have to be guided by you you know and I think one thing I'm like so impressed about with the Pauls like Logan Paul and um
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Jake Paul they seem to be like marketing genius and and people like underestimating of how powerful they've come from just like YouTubers they're people like you and Ki is the same in the UK like these people have monetized
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their audience to the um tee agree it hasn't been seen before the way that these guys are monetizing their Their audience in such ways that it's just like galvanizing the whole community and now what they've done like taking
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somebody like all right Mike Tyson is his own person Mike Tyson is somebody who everybody hated him like he's the worst person ever and he rebuilt himself okay I remember I went to the first M and J Le was behind I went to the
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first Mike Tyson audience with Mike Tyson in Vegas really it was sold out it was in the Thomas and maxent people nor go there for boxing went there for the it was amazing it was a 90-minute stand up and he held it he didn't miss up for
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and it was amazing so that was the start of it he' done a world tour I mean he done a tour Mike Tyson tour so he done that so they've rebuilt Mike then you saw him in a movie and everybody was
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loving Mike Tyson so he he he great they done an amazing job on him he had that Broadway show because he's somebody that crossed over in his career the youngest heavyweight champion ever he became a a Phenom worldwide so never going to
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forget that then you got Jake Paul now with his market and he's built himself so you put that to together that's called like in marke in terms that's like the Snowball Effect yeah where it's it's it's going it's like me when I came
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out for the Olympic you could I couldn't control the Avalanche once it started the Snowball Effect just took a life of itself that's what you saw with Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight it took a world of its own so by the time it got to the to
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the event itself like like you everything crashed you could they couldn't even handle it yeah it expectation because it's an avalanche now so so real quick cuz I know you have to go and uh thank you thanks again for
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coming on last question just real quick if you could script what goes on in the heavyweight division for the next six to eight months how would you script it what I mean is we have Tyson Fury versus ukik we have Joshua potentially coming
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back duah hanging around like if this could happen this if you could just script it perfectly for the for the culture the boxing culture how would you script it who be to and what's the big fight that ends up at the end of next
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year woo Deontay is still out there trying to trying to pick that right now with so many unknowns is a beautiful thing but I'm gonna I'm going to give it my best shot so Yi is is the guy there at the
Speaker A
he's the guy right he beat he's beaten everyone they've put in front of him and he hasn't made a mistake y but I think Mr Tyson Fury has a chance to upset yusk in this fight the reason why I say that is because technically
Speaker A
uh I think if Tyson's in great shape usk is the guy that likes to fight at PACE he likes to fight at PACE switch off fight at PACE switch off if you can fight usyk as a a high pace and Tyson
Speaker A
has that Tempo he can fight him at a high Pace High Tempo and don't let him rest and go head and body and don't let him dictate the pace which means you got to be in a higher condition which Tyson
Speaker A
Fury does that he does get himself in great condition condition if he gets himself in great condition which I think he's going to be he's going to be able to push you like nobody's ever pushed him and he's going to be able to outlast
Speaker A
him he's got to fight him like there was a guy called Wayne pocket Ray mccullock the pocket rocket yeah and um he was trained by Fel Tor and he just nonstop punching he's got to throw if he throws
Speaker A
a higher output that would be my higher punch output on the move he will beat you six so that's my first prediction okay Tyson Fury win so he's on top of the world great now he has the chance uh
Speaker A
du is not taking Joshua so then you have Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua so that fight gets made in the summer because Joshua why you know people gonna love that fight y DUIs takes his fight in in February gets gets his win deont Wilder
Speaker A
comes back with a warm up deont Wilder comes back fights du man the only one who's going to be complaining and is Joe Parker he's going to be like hell no I'm not sitting around they'll pay him step
Speaker A
aside money yeah Joe Parker will get a Stepside money and he'll come back into the mix and he'll fight the winner of Joshua no he'll fight the winner of Joshua and Tyson Fury bro so that's how I see next year could could play out and
Speaker A
uh I want to be involved in one of those camps man well number one you need to be involved in one of those camps but number two you need to be advising promoters because if that line up if
Speaker A
that happened that would be so exciting next year be amazing for the heavyweight Division and all the other divisions what what they what you know um what's happening with the involvement of um it'd be remiss if we didn't mention
Speaker A
what's happening in in with with Saudi and and how that you know they the uh yeah the Excellency uh turkey turkey yeah the Excellency Turkey um what he's done to the game in terms of like buying a Ring magazine In terms like all these
Speaker A
fights over they're like the best of the best fighting so like all of the division like Terrence Crawford and and just what that boxing's in a great place right now you know and it just needs it just needs to like
Speaker A
get in mainstream and it's just about people doing their jobs like the marketing like getting them on the right TV show still it's like the old school marking is still there like build a fighter in your city get get the crowd
Speaker A
behind him from the city then you go and Conquer your country you know old school got to go back to that and a Amen to his Excellency he's done um he's he's created a lot of great fights quickly
Speaker A
he's honestly pointed a lot of great Fighters into potential retirement but that's he's made the sport exciting again he's put put a a focal point on it everybody's focused on boxing again and he did it by putting his money putting
Speaker A
putting his money up so thank put his money there and and and we're getting like best of the best fighting and it's it's it's like causing other people in the industry to put the best of the best together y so it's been a a positive
Speaker A
thing and and and and now we can compete we can nobody can like UFC has its crowds doing amazing but boxing has its crowd and we're having 10,000 people 15,000 people there 70,000 for the stadium you know it's it's it's amazing
Speaker A
that boxing's had a good comeback you know not only um the the comeback story of U of of a one fighter it's it's the whole it's the whole game you know the whole industry man yeah it's great yo
Speaker A
man thank you for coming I know you got to run yeah appreciate your time man was a great enjoyed it thank you man thank you and hey hey get there let's see what's going on all right I know I know
Speaker A
I know you want to come back and uh yeah it's um boxing I'm I'm excited I've got so much knowledge and just like just want to you know I want to help right the right people who who even if they
Speaker A
just want to like like go for it like get they get it off their back you know how far can I go how far can I go yeah yeah and it's just like let's see all right man I'll be I'll be reaching out
Speaker A
to you on that man right man thanks again man we'll be back take care Co
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