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He Gives Heavy Insight on Hearing God and The Gift of Prophecy w/ Dale Mast | Premieres 8/3

Dale Mast shares deep insights on hearing God's voice, prophecy, and spiritual intimacy in this powerful We Need to Talk podcast episode.

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Key Takeaways

  • Hearing God's voice is natural and accessible to all believers.
  • Prophecy and spiritual gifts must be used with humility and accountability.
  • Intimacy with God grows through consistent communication and obedience.
  • Spiritual gifts are tools for witnessing and should be exercised in love and truth.
  • Faithfulness and perseverance in ministry lead to impactful spiritual fruit.

What the video covers

  • Everyone is born with the ability to hear God's voice, often recognized as conscience or intuition.
  • Communication with God is essential for intimacy and spiritual growth.
  • The gift of prophecy should be used responsibly, maintaining authority and humility.
  • Spiritual gifts, including speaking in tongues, are meant for witnessing and building faith.
  • Dale Mast shares his personal journey from a Mennonite background to ministering in Asia and beyond.
  • The importance of perseverance, prayer, and listening to spiritual leaders is emphasized.
  • Healing, deliverance, and miracles are invitations to deeper intimacy with God.
  • The ministry focuses on equipping believers to hear God’s voice and walk in their prophetic calling.
  • Dale highlights the balance between spiritual gifts and scriptural grounding to avoid misuse.
  • The episode encourages believers to rise up in their anointing and trust God’s guidance daily.

Answers

Questions about this video

Can everyone hear God's voice according to Dale Mast?

Yes, Dale Mast believes everyone is born to hear God's voice, which can manifest as conscience or intuition, and is accessible to all believers.

What is the purpose of spiritual gifts like prophecy and speaking in tongues?

Spiritual gifts are meant to be used for witnessing both in the church and the world, helping believers grow in faith and maintain spiritual purity.

How does Dale Mast describe the relationship between prayer and hearing God?

He emphasizes that prayer is true communication with God, and if God is not listening or answering, it is not genuine prayer, highlighting the importance of intimacy.

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I believe everybody's born to hear God's voice. We call it our conscience. We call it intuition, but He's our Father.
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If we do not have communication, there is no intimacy. Tell me where God has you going, and I will tell you where the devil has attacked you. What you've been saved for is greater than what you've been saved from. But you have to be
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saved from it to [music] get to the for. Anything in your house you don't throw away, it's for future use. We have been saved for future use.
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That's so good. God's not done with you. I do not even know how He does it. I just know He does it. If you can explain it totally, it's not God. Ooh. I look over to waitress and I hear the word
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prostitute. I see your relationship with men has been like a mystery. You feel like you've been bought and sold. She starts crying. The place starts shaking her hands. What happens when prophetic ears have a Pharisee spirit? It says,
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"Show me your fruit before you start telling me what I should do." Just because you have prophecy, do not give up your authority to be led by the Holy Spirit.
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And don't quit praying, and don't quit listening to your pastor. Speaking in tongues, the purpose was not to have a Pentecostal church service. It was to make them witnesses. If you don't use the gifts of the Spirit to witness to
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the world and in church, it's misusing it. See, if you use the gift to be a witness, it'll keep you clean. 'Cause a heathen don't play games. I don't even raise my voice. I just talk to people.
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There are things we do in church we would never do just on the street.
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Yeah. The street will keep you more honest. We don't break God's laws. His laws break us.
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You don't break the law of gravity. You go out and jump off a three-story building, you're not going to break the law of gravity. Of all, every time I prophesy, I'm yielding more of my life to God and God's yielding more of His
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life through me. It becomes a divine interchange and building a friendship. Jesus has called us friends. That's not an assessment of our relationship. It's an invitation. Jesus looked at Judas and called him friend. Whatever you do, do it quickly. God wants to talk to us and
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through us. Are you glad to have a knife, a fork, and a spoon at your table? But if you use that knife to eat peas, you're going to have a cut mouth.
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You say, "But it's there, but that's not its purpose." I don't want to be a hypocrite. I don't want to go out there and tell somebody about the love of God when I'm over here struggling.
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The miracle is also an invitation to get into intimacy. You cannot be holy without intimacy. You can be religious.
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The greater cost was salvation. So whenever you ask for a miracle, you're asking for the lesser.
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Start speaking to yourself. Rise up in that anointing. I know I may feel little. I'm not qualified, but I'm in covenant with you and I have a breaker anointing because you're the breaker.
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And the Lord reveals Himself [music] to me. This is not a podcast. This is a deliverance ministry. God is going to deliver just as many, if not more here than He does inside of church [music] buildings.
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And you got to keep giving yourself over to it. It's proving it to you over and over. The weightiness of your anointing.
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The Lord says thousands will be delivered. I am so grateful to be here today with my new friend. Uh, he is an amazing author, speaker, man of God. Of course, you know, he has a prophetic voice, and I'm just so grateful that he's here
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sitting with me today. Thank you so much for being on the We Need to Talk podcast with me. Uh, man of God, Daniel Dave.
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Dale. Yes. I'm gonna try that again. Okay. Daniel. Dave. Okay. Welcome to the We Need to Talk podcast, Mr. Dale Mast.
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That's it. That's it. Okay. All right. One more time. Welcome to the We Need to Talk podcast, Mr. Dale Mast. Thank you so much for being with me.
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It's my joy to be here with you, Ezekiel. Oh, man. Look, when I first saw a little bit of what you do, I'm just like, man, this man of God is so powerful. How he's able to simplify, uh, just hearing God and
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just a prophetic gift and prophetic office. Um, and just making it seem like it's something that is can be a day-to-day thing that we can aspire for as believers. Just being able to hear God's voice, trust God's voice, and be led by
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God's voice. Um, but before we, uh, dive into that, I want to know a little bit about your background. How did you end up here speaking like this, talking like this? Uh, were you born hearing God's voice or is this something that just
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happened? Well, I would qualify this. I believe everybody's born to hear God's voice. And we call it our conscience. We call it intuition. We call it a lot of things, but He's our Father. And when God created Adam and Eve, He gave them
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ears. He gave them a voice. And I say this, uh, when the disciples said to Jesus, "Teach us how to pray," they realized that when Jesus would go away and pray, something powerful was happening in His life that they wanted
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in. Now, if we're praying and God is not listening, it is not prayer. It is just us speaking.
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Wow. So, and if He cannot answer us, then we can't have answered prayer. So in it the pattern of the garden was God made man in His image so he could communicate.
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If we do not have communication, there is no intimacy. Tell me a friend you have that you haven't talked to and or won't talk to, and tell me that's the way you lose a good friend by stopping communicating. As a matter of fact, if we
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get mad with somebody, which is one of the ways we punish them, the silent treatment.
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Yes. Okay. And this is the good news. God's not mad with you, but the devil is. And he's trying to bring so much noise into the atmosphere, we can't hear God's voice and actually bring a spirit of confusion into us. Now, change comes.
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One word from heaven can change your entire life on earth. Come on. I was raised in a Mennonite church. We did not have a negative opinion toward prophecy nor a positive. We just didn't know it existed.
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Yes. When I gave my heart to Jesus at 12 years old, I saw all these Asian people, Chinese in front of me, and I was 12.
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They were like 10. I was preaching to them. Well, when I was spirit-filled, literally probably about seven years later, I was talking to somebody who just mentioned it. They said, "Dale, that was not your imagination.
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There's coming a day you're going to minister to people in China." I thought, "You got to be kidding me." But now I started to entertain the possibility.
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Forty years later, I'm in the underground church in China. I'm looking at them. The same rain that I felt of the Holy Spirit come on me. Wow.
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At 12 years old started falling on me again as I'm in this underground church. I said, "I saw you at 12, but it took me 50, 40 years to get here." And the same rain fell down. And I, I
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equipped them how to hear God's voice. And it was such a powerful, powerful time. And you know my ministry, a couple people said, "Well, I really, you know, where did you come from? I haven't heard of you. You know, you've been around." I
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said my first 20 years I was ministering underground church in China, Korea, Japan. All of my ministry started off in Asia, really. So that dream actually became my path.
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My book was first interpreted into Japanese, Korean, and Chinese before Spanish just came, just the last couple years. But now it's in my David book, and David perceived he was king is now in nine languages, about
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to go into two more. But, uh, so all of this started with a 12-year-old vision.
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But when I was spirit-filled, uh, I started pursuing it. And you know, Ezekiel, this is the part I want to say to everyone. I never knew the level of influence that I would have in my life.
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And but God knew. God knew. And see a lot of people, I never wrote my first book till I was 60.
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I didn't know I could write a book, and it's in my story because I had a negative experience that made me think I did not have the ability to be a good teacher. Whoa. And this is the part I've
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learned and I'm we get a little bit i
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two-way streak. Come on. Because you know the devil never attacked any of the disciples except Peter who was to preach on Pentecost.
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He's the only one cursed and said, "I never knew you." And denied him [clears throat] to the greatest level.
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Wow. Because of the devil trying to get him out of his call. Come on. And when Jesus come back from the day, he said, "Tell Peter and the disciples." He wanted to say, "Peter, you think you're out of it and the
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devil's on your back, but I'm telling you, you're in it and you're my man." And you know, just talk about this for a minute. Do you know one of the reasons God could goose Peter? Because he he understood he was a vessel. Can you
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imagine Jesus looking at you and say, "Satan, get behind me." Why would you hang around?
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Come on. because you felt a you felt Satan leave you. And when you said, "Thou art the Christ." He said, "You aren't that smart, Peter." That was the Holy Spirit. And he felt that, too. He said, "I'm a vessel, and now I know to
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guard this vessel to let the Holy Spirit come through me." Yes. And so Peter, he had the gift.
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Come on. You think And he also had the heart. Come on. You know, a lot of people look at Peter, his little attitude. Yes. You know, like maybe he was from New York.
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Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That attitude. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Brooklyn. But when they caught all the fish, who was the one that fell at the feet of Jesus and repented and said, "I'm an unclean
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man." The man who was going to cause 3,000 people to repent on the day of Pentecost because he repented, he could bring that to other people.
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That's good. So, you know, if you're not a worshipper, don't try to lead people in worship. Some singers are good singers, but they're not good worshippers.
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Come on. Come on. I love it. I love it. So, we're having a good time here.
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Oh, man. So, I started getting little words here and there. I never really saw myself as a prophet. I saw myself as a person who had a prophetic leaning, then a prophetic gift. Then I started to understand when Bishop Bill Ham and I
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met him. He looked at me and he said, "Dale," and I was I'd been a pastor for several years. I liked being a pastor.
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And he said, "You're not a pastor who prophesies. You're a prophet who pastors." Oh my goodness.
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And he switched my identity. Now, in my book, and David perceived he was king.
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One of the things we realize, an evangelist wars for your soul, but a prophet wars for your destiny.
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What you've been saved for is greater than what you've been saved from. But you have to be saved from it to get to the four. [laughter] Now, you know, anything in your house you don't throw away, it's for future use. We have been
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saved for future use. That's so good. Yes. And if you're alive listening to my voice, God's not done with you. You may be done with God, but God ain't done with you. And you are going to run into
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him again. And some of you that have never known God, he's about to give you a dream, speak to you. You say, "Why?" Because you have now just sat under my voice as a prophet. And it releases the
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anointing in you to hear his voice. I'm not a prophet just because I hear his voice. I'm a prophet because I can equip you to hear his voice. And that's why I wrote this book, Secrets to Hearing God's Voice. I could call it
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Revelations, but Secrets makes people want to check it out. It's a mystery. Yes. And you know, I can explain certain parts of it. There's other parts. I do not even know how he does it. I just know he does it and I yield to it. It
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works. If you can explain it totally, it's not God. [laughter] Oh. Oh, we have the truth. But I can't explain how when I look at somebody, I see something and they say, "How did you know that?" You know, I mean, I could tell you I
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could I could tell you story after story of uh, you know, things that have happened.
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What are examples of looking at someone and seeing something that they were shocked or it shocked you?
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Uh, I'm trying to think of one. I I use this uh because this person I led to salvation. Very [snorts] different.
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We're in a packed out restaurant. I mean, there's not a table free. We just finally get seated. It's filled.
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Probably 100 150 people in this restaurant. 200 just jammed. I look over to waitress who's coming to our table after we're seated. And I look at her and I hear the word prostitute.
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Now in it, it was not condemning. It was not uh judgmental. It was just information and I know enough about the Lord. You never embarrassed people.
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Yes. Okay. He was giving me something prophetic shorthand. And I thought, Lord, what do you want me to say? So I just looked at her and I said, as she came back with all these dirty plates, she said, I'm getting ready to take on
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your table, but this was such a now word. I just stepped right out. took me about 30 seconds to do all this. I said, uh, I'm a Christian. When I look at people, God shows me things. Now, when I
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say that to people, then I say to God, I just told him who I am and what you do.
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If I was you, I'd help me. Now, you're doing that internally. Internally, like, help me. Now, I didn't say that then because I felt such an anointing, but I've done that because I'm making a declaration. I'm a Christian. God speaks to me and I've
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actually had nothing. Wow. and he'll speak. Why? In the moment. Because I'm actually prophesying the prophecy.
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be [music] doing for those three nights for we need to heal. I cannot wait to see what God does. I [music] love you guys and all the information to donate is in the link in the description for social media. The link [music] is in my
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bio. Love y'all. Peace. But I'm not saying don't you shouldn't do this if you don't know that you have the gift of prophecy and you don't have an intimate relationship with him.
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That's so good. See, there are people that have the gift, but they don't have him.
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And the deal is, you may have him, but he may not have you yet. And that's another level. Okay? So, that one you'll work on. That's called being a friend of God.
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Oh my. So anyway, so as we get into this, I look at her now, let's go back, and these are the words that literally stunned me. I looked at her and I said, I see your relationship with men has
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been like a mystery. You feel like you've been bought and sold. She starts crying. The place starts shaking her hands. And I said, and then I saw her heart cracked. And I said, Lord, what are you doing? I don't want
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to just tell her the problem. I want to get the answer. And I said, 'I see a crack in your heart. And as I put my finger up, God is putting his finger.
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He's healing your heart right now. I said, 'Are you a Christian?' She said, 'N no. I said, 'Would you like to be?' She said, yeah, but look, I just said, just say, Jesus, come in my heart. She said, Jesus, and she's crying, "Jesus,
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come in my heart." And I said, "Thank you." And she just walked away. I let her know. I would go I wasn't going to ask her what she believed about the rapture, what King James. I just said, you know, I just
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literally and that was the most uh uh that was one of the most powerful experiences I'll never forget.
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But see, you have to first of all know the heart of God that when you communicate that you don't just always say the way you hear it, you're mature enough to know how to handle it.
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That's good. Someone would have just been like prostitute. Yeah. Yeah. I see it all in you. Prostitute.
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Yeah. That wouldn't have been as fruitful. Yeah. Well, now think about this. Just think about a story of the men who came and dropped the woman caught in adultery in front of Jesus.
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Yes. Now, you can think that's really terrible, but you know what? Those men that were being used by the devil, religious spirit, at least they dropped her in front of the right man.
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Oh, do you know when the devil tries to tear up people, God will use them to set people free. Wow. And wow.
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Can you imagine? Might be a couple people in heaven. Yeah. I stood around that woman with the rock. I dropped it about the fifth purse and I went home. I got convicted.
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Wow. Turned my life around. Wow. Don't think of everybody holding those rocks, none of them got saved. See, that's a religious spirit working in us.
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Come on. We're judging them for being and then we end up like them because we start judging. What happens when prophetic ears or prophetic voices have a Pharisee spirit? A Pharisee spirit, you know what? You know what a Pharisee spirit
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is? In the end, the people have problems. It's them. It's not me. Whenever there are some people that are sin seekers instead of sunseekers, they're looking to put somebody down because it makes them feel better about their life.
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And you know, and the other thing is if you can't really uh run your own life, the second best option is to run somebody else's.
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Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. So I tell people, I said, "Show me your fruit before you start telling me what I should do." That's right.
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Don't give me your theory. Yes. Show me the path of life. Show me the tree of life. If you don't have fruit, then you really don't have anything to really teach because there are a lot of people with
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theories, but they have never put their roots in the anointing. Have mercy. Listen, there's so much we got we got so much to go into. This is so good. Now I don't if any other other of those stories come in I want I want
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to hear about him because I can say that I do have the word of knowledge gift of the word of knowledge and sometimes God allow me to see someone and he'll give me an instant knowing sometimes it's not
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words that I'm hearing it's just a knowing in my heart and so I want to ask you about about this because this is interesting God reveals mysteries through pictures. What does that even mean? Well, in the Bible, God would say
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to people, "What do you see? What does it mean?" Now, the reason a picture is really good in the prophetic, especially to people, you know, it breaks you out of the realm of natural knowledge, even for people you don't know. So, like
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today, I was just I mean, today literally uh when I should have been heading here to have the interview, I was having uh this Greek place and this guy had tattoos. And as I was reading them, I realized unless he had just
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gotten saved, he really didn't have a history with God. And I had to sort of maybe rededicate my life to Jesus after reading about four of his tattoos, you know. But I said, "Lord, give me a word for him."
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And so I'll look at people and say, and I said, this what I said to him. I said, you know, uh, I've been a pastor 40 years. When I look at people, God will give me a word concerning their future,
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their gift. Now, when I say I'm a pastor, they sort of lean back. When I say it's about their gift or future, they lean forward.
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Wow. Because see, they have a they have a predetermined thing of me being judgmental. But when I say I'm going to talk about them, their gift, their future, they're very interested.
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Wow. What God has to say about their gifting, their value. So the prophetic is really to bring out the treasure, not to be a trap or to point out the shortcoming. So, I just looked at him and I said, "You know, I saw you
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fishing, but I saw God putting a heavier weight on your fishing line. You're going to start going and fishing for deeper fish." I said, "I don't know about your worship life, but the weight of your worship will increase your
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ability to fish deeper." And I left it. He didn't tell me he was a Christian. He didn't tell me he wasn't a Christian. He said, "Thank you." Wow. So, see, when people know that God sees part of their
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genius and he wants to bless them, it makes God more interesting. And so, I believe this that I want to I want what God says through me to sort of pull on people, but I want enough of a
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mystery they just can't put it down like a good book. Yeah. Say, you mean the devil ain't told me nothing about my life? It's interesting.
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The de all the devil does. Now, the devil will do things. He is deceiving.
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But I'm saying God is the real deal. He won't lie to you. He won't draw you in, laugh you, and spit you out. Everybody that the devil blesses in a sense. In the end, he stumps. He stumps them to
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nothing. Wow. Because he is a destroyer, a liar, and a killer. Yes. And you can you can have the money and in the end hate your life.
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Wow. That's right. and be destroyed. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's never a good It's always a car wreck at the end.
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Don't you ever get afraid that something you might share with someone is wrong. Okay, this is what I say. And and now I'm going to say it two different ways.
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Okay, first of all, I'm not looking at giving them information. I'm looking give them encouragement, comfort, edification. Those three you could never miss.
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If you encourage, comfort, and edify somebody, you can't miss. Okay? Now, if you start getting into direction, you better be very, you need to be careful.
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I don't teach people to give direction to people. I teach them to do the other three. It's called the tree of life. The tree of knowledge of good and evil is all information.
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But life builds a person up to where they can see now I have I have g as a prophet I've given I've submitted directive words. Let me let me just give you one example. Uh uh this pastor Tom
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Davis he called me up and he's in Wilmington, Delaware. He said you know I'm getting ready to lose uh I think they were saying that the building they're in is going to be sold or something and he has is going to lose
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his lease and he needs to move. and he wants to buy a building. And all of a sudden, I see him standing in front of his building pointing to the left. I said, "I think your building's one mile
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to your left if you stand out, you know, and uh one mile, one I think one to three." I said, "Just look there. If it's not there, then go look everywhere else, but look there first." See, I'm not making them it has to be to your
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left. I'm saying, "Would you just look there first?" You never take away somebody's ability to choose. Oh, but you point them in a direction.
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Wow. I'm very comfortable with that. Does that make sense? Yes. Yes. Do you know? So, anyway, let's we'll keep on going. So, about I've done this with about 20 different pastors, even Japan. Sometimes God will let me describe a building. Doesn't happen all
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the time, but this is one a guy called me up. I don't even know who he is. I think it was over B around Baltimore.
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And he said, "I heard you tell people where to pastors where to find their church building." and I need to work I need to find my building. I said, so I said now, and Baltimore, there's a lot of water water around, you know. I don't
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want to put him out in the bay or anything, you know. So I said, I said, you need to look to the east. I said, I think it's about three miles to your east or that's all I remember.
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Yes. And he said, "Thank you." I said, "Now, but I'll give you this word under one condition. You're the pastor. I'm the prophet.
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I You have the authority for that church. God's going to look you up for what happens in that church. Not me. My job is to yield my gift to you. Your job is to take authority and use it.
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Wow. I will give you a word, but if you will not uh abdicate your position of authority and say, "Well, the prophet said, you know, you're the pastor, you have the steering wheel. I will give my part, but you do your part."
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Okay, you hear what I'm saying? See, I don't ever believe that one five-fold runs over the other. That's right. They weave together. So, I didn't hear anything. Two years later, he calls me up. He said, "Prophet Dale." He said,
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"You're not going to believe this." Who are you? I still don't know his name. If you hear hear this, please call me.
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Email me at Dalemass AOL and tell me because I I [clears throat] don't know who you are, but I know it's a real life. And he said, "You know what happened? We went to buy," he said, and he told me this. I know exactly where
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this building is. It's a mall we've been looking at. It's to the east, three miles, and we're gonna buy it. He calls me up two years later and says, "You know what happened after that word? A man bought it right before we went to we
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were going to go after it." Wow. [sighs] But I'm calling you because that man bought it and two years later, he sold it to us for half price.
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Oh my goodness. And I said, he said, he said, when it was sold, we decided to rent because God didn't show us what else to do. So in two years later, he got it for 50% less. And he was not sad. Wow.
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[laughter] Don't we serve a mighty God? But see, if he would have just said, "That's mine. I'm going to outbid him. I missed it. I'm mad. I don't believe the prophet." Uh don't judge a prophecy before it's time.
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Wow. And also just because you have prophecy, do not give up your authority to be led by the Holy Spirit.
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And don't quit praying and don't quit listening to your pastor. I have two problems. See, my job, I'm not a prophet because I can prophesy. I'm a prophet according to Ephesians because I can equip the body of Christ to hear his
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voice. If you can't equip other people to hear, you're not really a five-fold prophet.
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Well, you could be, but you're not doing your job. You're not equipping the body of Christ to hear. Do you know the Catholics in the old days didn't want to give believers a Bible because they thought they'd mess it up.
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Yeah. Today in Pentecost, we we will have a prophet in the house, but we don't want to teach people how to prophesy because we're afraid they will mess it up.
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Absolutely. And it says, "In the last days, I will pour out my spirit. Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy." Okay, now you have to put it in context in the book of Acts. What did it say? It
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said you're to wait. Now, these guys trained three years by Jesus said, "You're going to wait until you receive power from on high." Now, see, most Pentecostal and and and then you'll speak in tonesues.
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He said, "You'll receive power, then you'll speak in tones." That ain't what he said. You will receive power, then you'll be my witnesses. Speaking in tongues was a sign they received it. The the purpose was not to have a
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Pentecostal church service. It was to make them witnesses. So all the gifts of the spirit are the tools we witness with. And this is a problem. If you don't use the gifts of the spirit to witness to the world and in church too,
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it's sort of like it's misusing it. You have toenails, right? You like them to grow out. You don't want them to be ingrown.
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Yes. People that only use prophecy in church, they are like ingrown toenails. They're a pain to the rest of the body because they get religious. See, if you use it for the gift to be a witness, it'll keep you clean. Because a heathen
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don't play games. They don't put up with a Yes. You feel that? Yeah. You better have something. And they better feel the anointing. Not just you shaking them.
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Yeah. The presence of God in you better shake them. Wow. It isn't somebody else yelling, "Amen." I don't even raise my voice. I just talk to people out of my spirit into their spirit. There are things we do in
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church. we would never do. Come on. Just on the street. Yeah. And if we don't, there's certain things maybe the street will keep you more honest.
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You don't got a cheerleader. You don't have anybody covering with trying to make it better than what it is. And then also what happens is the raw power of God and the love of God comes through so much more.
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Wow. And see, if we don't love the world, we have nothing to say that will help them.
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And if we don't say anything, it seems like we don't love them. Wow. So, there's a fix in between. And I had God say to me one time, and [clears throat] you ever get upset with the church, you know, I mean, you know, church
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people, you know, I pastored 40 years. I got upset several times. And I even got upset with myself, you know. I mean, I would just want to be fair. Don't think I just get upset with them. I get upset with me, too.
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If you only get upset with other people, you are a Pharisee because you're you should until you get upset with yourself. You're not being honest.
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Come on. You know, so I'm upset with everybody. Yes. You know, I didn't get upset with God. Like, God, why didn't you do this? You know, he don't get ups you don't get mad. You might as well be honest. He knows it.
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Come on. you know. So anyway, I don't know why we're getting into all this, but it it's gonna help somebody. Yes.
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So, the whole point of this thing is I'm coming back to my point now. Help me, Ezekiel. I was saying something here that I want to focus on. I got too far out on the branch.
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No, it's it it's okay. We're talking about um prophesying others and use using a prophecy for the world and not just the church.
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Not just the church. Yes. Because God so loved the world, he sent his son. if we will love the world, he'll send us. And I was having a hard time with the church. This is the point.
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And I said, "Lord, I I just don't want to do this anymore. I just I I had a couple leaders leave and I was young." And and uh he said, "Dale, I died for them. Could you just at least love
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them?" Wow. Just could you do that for me? I'm just asking you to love him. I died for him.
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So good. So good. Let me ask you this. Yeah. I hear what you're saying with the encouraging and the comfort, but when I look at the major prophets in the Old Testament, I'm looking at Ezekiel, I'm looking at Jeremiah, I'm looking at
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Isaiah, and the call that God gave to these men of God. It was very, very strong words. Often times, words of rebuke, words of God bringing disaster. So, how do you reconcile that the prophets of old have a different mission than the prophets um
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that that the Lord is calling us to be today? Because they didn't just do encouragement.
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Yeah. And I I have I have corrected people privately. I've I've given directional words. I've I've uh counseledled people. Um, and uh, I've prophesied things that have come to pass. I don't publicize it. Um, uh, but this is a part before Jesus and
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before we have the New Testament. Now remember, he said an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth. So that was justice.
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He said no more. He said now, you know, I'm saying, you know, pray for your enemies. M.
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So now it it's not a different law. It's the perfection of what the law was supposed to be.
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Wow. The you know it's like uh it's like you telling your child if you have a boy and a girl that they're same age, you sit there and say to your son, you know, you don't hit her, you don't hit your
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sister. We don't hit girls. We're we're kind. [snorts] And and you say, uh so so don't do that. He said, "Well, I won't do that." Say, "Okay, that's good. Now, I'm actually asking you to love your sister." Well, I I just don't want to
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hit her. No, I want you to love her. So, I had to start with getting rid of the I had to get the law in.
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Now, I'm going to get the spirit in. Okay. So, in the Old Testament, because God gave laws, and we don't break God's laws, his laws break us. Ooh, the law. You don't break the law of gravity.
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You go out and jump off a three three-story building, you're not going to break the law of gravity. It's going to break you.
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Okay? You hear what I'm saying? We're not above the law. We're not beneath the law. By the spirit, we're in it.
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Wow. So, you show me somebody walking in spirit, they will fulfill the all of the law. Jesus did. M but judgment was given in the Old Testament like right there because the the level of revelation was I'm not
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going to believe it unless I see judgment come right then and what Jesus said hey I've come I didn't come to condemn the world but to save it but I'm going to tell you this every idol word you will give an account for
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h I just thought you meant the bad words I said no every idol You know, I you know, I'm just telling you, it's harder now.
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You know what I'm saying? Mhm. And so, every once in a while, you know, I love to have fun. I love to joke. And God said, you know, you joked and you had an anointing and you just wasted
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that moment. Whoa. Oh, no. But you know, sometimes we joke and I I had to realize that some of my joking I had somebody say something to me. He's a good friend.
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Uhhuh. He he said it in indirect way. What did he say? He said uh he said you know I want to introduce you this guy but he really don't like jokesters. I was joking and you know I haven't joked with
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you. I've been very okay. And then I realized I said Lord that's true. What's going on? And he said, "Dale, you're not deal you have not dealt with the pain of the pain I went through when I on the
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same day about [clears throat] it'll be a year and a half ago, same day, I buried my oldest son [clears throat] and my youngest brother." Wow. And he said, 'You have not allowed that to process. And so you're using
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humor around people because you've not come, even though you have peace, you've not really dealt with all of it.
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And so, uh, you know, you have to have good friends that'll challenge you. [snorts] If you have friends that never challenge you, they're good, but they're not great friends. You, a great friend say, "Hey, you see that on your sided face?" You
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know, Yeah. Yeah. You know, they care enough to make you Yeah, I get it. Wow.
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So, so as I I thought about it, I said, "Yeah, I've been joking more than and I'm this is over the I mean, I like to have fun, but this is it's too much." And I realized I felt convicted.
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Wow. And then uh so I processed it, man. That's what sanctification looks like. Sometimes it's not explicit sins.
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Sometimes it's the Lord saying, "I need to make you more like me." That's that's going to mean balance.
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knowing when to say what to say to mature to even be selective with the way that you present yourselves in every setting. That is amazing.
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Yeah. Oh man, let me ask you about this. You have a chapter that's called just go for it. I think we kind of highlighted that.
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I guess coming back to myself and thinking about the word of knowledge sometimes that I received kind of dealing with that idea that I sometimes get a little bit timid when God gives me something to say and let's say I say it and someone doesn't
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really sound like they are it it's it's it's connecting with them and I'm just like Lord like have you know did did they receive that was that really for them and it's not until later that the Lord kind of allows a situation
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to happen and they say, "Hey, thank you for that. I was really going through this. I did not want to admit it or whatever the case may have been." So, how do we develop the confidence to just be able to just say what God tells us to
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say the way he wants us to say it? Okay. Well, there's a couple of things there that you when I say about go for it.
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First of all, every time I prophesy, I'm not only just giving a prophetic word, I'm yielding more of my life to God and God's yielding more of his life through me.
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It becomes a divine interchange in building a friendship. I believe this and I can't scripturally you can look at this a couple of different ways, but I just want to give you a different view of think about this.
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Um it says that um no man can live and see the face of God.
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Yet when Miriam and Aaron said, "Well, we're prophets, too." And God said to them, "God said, Moses is more than a prophet. He's a friend. I speak to him face to face." Now, one person said, "Well, do you
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think that he could see the face of God?" Uh, I said, "I don't know if they're talking face to face. I don't know if Moses had his eyes closed or what." Yeah.
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But this is the deal. You say, "Friend, Jesus has called us friends." That's not a assessment of our relationship. It's an invitation.
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Jesus looked at Judas and called him friend. Whatever you do, do it quickly. Jesus did not change his attitude. H but the body of Christ needs to friend up with God. And it starts with talking with him and then allowing him to talk
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through us. He you have to understand this. God wants to talk to us and through us. Have you ever counseledled somebody and it's helping it's so good it's actually helping you?
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Yes. And you want to write it down quick so you don't forget it. So that's the great counselor counseling through you. That's not you.
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Wow. Have you ever prayed so good you want to write it down so you can pray it again?
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Yeah. That's him that ever liveth to make intercession through you. That's not you praying.
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Wow. You started off praying. He finished up praying and you could tell the difference.
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Yes. Because the anointing started coming. You started you just went for it. You were feeling low. You started praying and all of a sudden the spirit of God got in it and the wind and then you prayed at another level. Okay. So, what
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I'm saying, uh, I I just had I'm going to use my wife. We come back from Japan.
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I am prophesied over hundreds of people. I am tired. I don't even want to hear my voice. I've taught a week and a half or whatever. And I mean, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Asia. We're I'm tired. She
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looks at me and she says, "I want a prophetic word." Who? My wife. She has more prophetic words for me than anyone in the universe. and she'll listen to them and she'll say, "And so I in the plane I was tired and I said it's too
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noisy, you know, cuz she had up the phone ready to record and I was annoyed." Now, you can be annoyed or anointed, but you can't be both.
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Now, to the level you're annoyed, you're not anointed. And when you get anointed, you're not annoyed.
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So, what happens is I said it's too noisy. She is not dissuaded. She pulls out a little pad. Hands are in a pencil. Write it down.
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I'm telling you, she's from New York. And so I put my pen down. I'm like, [laughter] "This woman you gave me, Lord." Yeah.
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Okay. First sentence, all a sudden, the anointing falls on me because I chose. You choose Christ. You choose to enter the anointing. Some of you are waiting for goosebumps. And the goose ain't bumped, but you need to step up.
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Come on. you need to step up and step in it. Come on. So I start writing and in the end I write down buy furniture for four rooms and in four months we'll have the new house. Now see
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my first wife had passed away at 55. I'm 55 now. I'm 73 now. Wow.
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We've been married 18 years. My second wife. Wow. Okay. We had the house. She said I'm going to live where you live with your wife. I said that's fine. I understand.
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Even though I like that house. It was on a lake. Wasn't a big house, but it was a beautiful lake. Yes. Anyway, so so anyway, uh she's going, we're going down a rush.
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She says, "Where is this house at?" And I said to her, "You didn't obey the word of the Lord." So, what do you mean? You didn't buy four rooms of furniture.
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And we're going past the furniture store in Dover in Delaware. They have Johnny Janowski. We do a U-turn. She said, "There it is. We're going to go right now." So, we walk in. Denise is there.
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Wow. Denise is she told there's a little story here. So Denise comes up to us and says, "Uh, so what do you want?" My wife said, "I want four rooms of furniture." She said, "What's what's the color of
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the the walls?" And she said, "Uh, don't know." "What do you mean you don't know?" "Well, we're pastors and God told us to buy four rooms of furniture and uh so we're going to do that." Denise told us, she was a Dead Head fan, you know,
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that you know that rock group. Yes. Follow. and she said, "I was thinking about quitting." She said, "I don't care if you don't buy a stick of furniture.
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Your faith has so ignited me that you would do this." So, we buy the four rooms of furniture and four months to the day we're sleeping in our new house.
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We wait and get more furniture. Denise, my wife, ends up leading her to Jesus.
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And within the time from we met her to two years later, she went to be with the Lord in from cancer.
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So it wasn't just about us getting our house. It's about her making it home.
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Okay. Now that that is that's heavy. Yeah. That's heavy right there. So, you're saying that there are times that God gives or walks you or gives you prophetic insight into your destiny while your destiny is attached to someone's eternity. Yeah. You're this
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see when you start to believe that everywhere you are, God has something uh for you to do to be a witness. See, so the deal is if the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the spirit were sent to
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make me a witness, I look at somebody and I'll say if if I'm going to a meeting and I feel prophetically dry, it happens now and then. You know, you hang out teaching church meetings talking about who needs to change and this and
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that and you get upset with other pastors, other churches, Pet and all a sudden your wine skin starts to dry up.
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Don't know why. [snorts] Could be a little bit of pride and judgment, but then we could but we move on. So, what I'll do is I say, "Lord, I want an anointing for this conference coming up." Wow.
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So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to minister to three or four people before I get there out of the church.
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Wow. Where I meet just to get me real. Wow. Because the world will make you real quick.
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And then also, if I'm there to be a witness, this isn't just a blessing. It could be their salvation.
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That's so good. You hear what I'm saying? Yes. If Jesus died for them, don't you think he'd have something to say?
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Okay. So, I I've I've done this. I have I have felt Well, there's a couple of stories I'll tell you. I have felt nothing. And I'll say, "Lord, I'm going to I'm going to I am not under the
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anointing, but I'm going to sign up for an anointed purpose. I'm going to be a witness to this person, and I'm asking you to anoint me for them, not for me, for them." and he'll do it because I
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know how to step out and to go for it because I'm going for it for the right reason. I'm not going so I can go back and say, "Guess what God did through me." I'm doing it to keep myself in the
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oil of the purpose of that gift. Because if you don't keep in the purpose of the gift, you get weird.
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Are you glad to have a knife, a fork, and a spoon at your table?
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But if you use that knife to eat peas, you're going to have a cut mouth.
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You say, "But it's there, but that's not its purpose." M and so when you start making the prophetic always being about information judgment I've had I've had uh I've known some things prophetically [snorts] but if I sense the problem
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and I don't know the person I will prophesy the answer in a way that nobody else would suspect wow that I'm dealing with the problem [snorts] but if I if it's a serious problem.
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After I'm done, I'll go over to the pastor and he won't and I'll say, "This leader, I'm telling you, this is what the Lord showed me." And I give it to the pastor, not to the person, not to
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everybody else. I want it to be a safe place. You know, that's good. Think about it. I I I I just told this story recently and and it's just one I just love. I I was having a bad day. I
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was in the airport. My attitude it was really lousy and God said to me I said I want you to minister to that woman and I okay. So I walk and I Lord I repent for my lousy attitude and cover
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me with the blood. And as I stepped toward her all a sudden the peace come over me. Now the peace crushes the enemy. I just look at her. I don't remember what I prophesied but I when I got done this is what I'll never forget.
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She just lift her hand. She said with tears in her eyes. She said, "Thank you.
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Thank you." Wow. And I as I walked away, I just started talking to the Lord. I said, "Lord, why would you use me? You saw where I was at." He said, "Dale, I knew you'd do it for me.
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If I asked you, you would do it for me." See, that's the heart of David. He would do whatever God asked him. Some people just look at living holy, unholy. If you don't do what God asked, you just are church good. You're not
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holy. So anyway, and I'm walking away and then I'm I'm smiling inside. And then I heard God say something else. He said, "And you were the best thing I had within 50 ft." So sometimes it's not that we're that
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great. We're just the best thing in 50 feet that God has to help that person out.
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So you're saying, let me ask you this. This is You bring up a good point.
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Sometimes if we feel that we may be gifted but we don't feel like we're in a good place. Yeah.
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We don't feel like, you know, we feel like, you know, we're distant from God or we feel like, uh, you know, I'm I have I was rebellious in this area. I fell in this area. I'm not going to be
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obedient to say what God what I'm sensing God say, what I believe God is calling me to do because I don't want to be a hypocrite. I don't want to go out there and tell somebody about the love
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of God when I'm over here struggling. What what is your advice to someone who you know script they're there they're a living Matthew 7 where not all those that say Lord Lord and cast out demons and prophesy my name he shall say I
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never knew you. So what do you say to that person that still is living a compromised life but the Lord is still allowing his spirit to flow through them.
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A compromised life is different from a person who doesn't know him. A compromised life is somebody who knows him who's not doing the right thing.
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Th that other person God is saying, "Now think about this. Cast out demons, uh, prophesy, raise the dead." That's literally the ministry of Jesus.
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You're telling me you can do that and not know him? Do you know what really God the Father's saying? If you want ministry to be an idiot, I'll let you have it.
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Wow. But if you want me, you can have that. But do you really is that what you're after? Are you after me? Wow, that's good.
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In other words, you know, if a girl dates you because you have a MercedesBenz, brother, beware.
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Okay, maybe you should drive a VW for a couple weeks. See where the heart is.
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Okay. No, real talk. Okay, just real. What are you after? But this is what God's saying.
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I am willing to put everything in front of you. An idol is something that is just you put above God. M and it doesn't have to be something bad.
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It could even be ministry because really in the end I become famous and people could get saved but I'm into it because I'm famous.
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But see the difference is before I leave this earth I want to make him famous.
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That's right. Okay. And so I have to and somebody said well to me a good friend said I was talking he said do you see pride in me?
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I said listen you have pride I have pride. The fact you're asking is what's going to keep you from falling when you stop asking.
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That's so you need to be worried. In other words are you're asking me. Okay. So let's go back to this again.
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The your original question is if I okay what does the Bible say after repentance comes times of refreshing.
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Judas could find a place of repentance. If you are compromised and you repent, you are better off than if you were a little bit more holy because now you're walking in self-righteousness.
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I had a pastor, a a guy uh he's with the Lord now, but he asked me one day, he said, "Dale," he said, "I got saved. I was a womanizer, and you know, and and I got saved, but I struggled with lust."
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And you know, and this is the thing I don't understand. Sometimes I did some things I shouldn't have done. M I repented and I went and I saw miracles.
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Wow. And then I had weeks where I struggled and struggled and I went and there were no miracles.
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I said, "Now listen, when you struggled and struggled and there were no miracles, you know what you never did?
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You weren't counting on him. You were counting on your goodness." Wow. When you messed up and repented, you were actually being honest.
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And then God could work with you. But when he was working with you, it wasn't to give you an excuse, but what he was saying is, "This is what I have for you. Will you come closer to me?"
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That's right. Because at a certain point, it lifted. Wow. But he said, I couldn't understand it. I said the miracles was the honesty, but it was also an invitation to get into intimacy. You cannot be holy without intimacy. You can be religious and good
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but without intimacy you cannot be holy. So you said the miracles are an invitation to intimacy. What do you mean by that?
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If well you repent for sin and then you pray and God does a miracle. And what God's saying is if you'll live in this place, not where you sin and repent because that's what the church started teaching.
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Yes. That the grace of God would more bound. See, that's true for a certain window.
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But a certain point, God will say, "Okay, now I'm taking the little uh I'm taking the the padded helmet off of you cuz you're going to be a hard hit. I'm going to let you start feeling the pain.
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Oo. Because I will cover you for a while, but I don't raise rebellious sons.
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Oo. I would rather you lose it, lose your ministry and come back to me. I'm more interested in you in the end than what you can do for me.
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Oh yeah. Absolutely. So I'd rather for you to fall, come back to me than to teeter totter in success and miss me.
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Absolutely. And I even think the same is true for the individual that's receiving the miracle. I always think about the miracle of the blind man who received sight in John chapter nine. After he received the sight, Jesus came back to
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look for him and say, "Do you you know who it was who healed you?" And the man was like, he didn't really know and he he said, "It is I who was speaking with you." And then the man fell down and he
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worshiped him. And so for me that man's true miracle happened when he recognized with true sight that Jesus was the Christ. In the same way that was the miracle that he initiated in the beginning was the invitation for him to
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get to know Jesus for real which was his opening of his eyes in real life because later in that passage the blind the Pharisees said are we also blind? He said look look your sin remains with you because you say that you see. So Jesus
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point, he said, "My my goal in this world was to cause those who say they see to be blind and those who are blind to see." And so Jesus's goal is to bring us to him to really wake us up. And if
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he does perform a miracle in our life, if he does allow us to hear a word, is not just for the sake of us hearing a word, just for us being blessed, just for us to get the miracle. The Lord is
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saying, "Hey, come closer." There's more where that comes from. There is a person, there's a relationship at the end of this rope.
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Yes, there is. Yeah. And you know, you think about it. He was healed in a sense before he was saved.
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[snorts] That's right. Okay. Now, how can that be theologically? H give you a point. Jesus paid for healing before he paid for salvation. By his stripes, we're healed.
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So the greater cost was salvation, crucifixion. So whenever you ask for a miracle, you're asking for the lesser.
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But the reason he did the healing before the salvation was so miracles could bring people to the cross.
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Oh my goodness. Same way the disciples came back all excited. We casting out demons. We're doing all these miracles.
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He said, "That's what you're excited about? be more excited that your names are written in the book of life.
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So what was he really saying there? Think about it. Come on. It's not about what you do. It's about who you're in covenant with. You're see you know it's like you know like when you got big enough and you realize you
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could outrun other people or you could out basketball, you could out you out out think somebody out out uh you know your car was faster.
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something that made you better, bigger, better. You got excited because you thought that actually gave you value when what he was saying is your value is that you're my son and daughter. That is just the stuff. This is you and me.
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That's literally one of the names of your chapter. God gives us value. Value. Yeah. And so, let me just give you an example. this one woman who emailed me 10 years after I prophesied to her. She said, "I came to your
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meeting. I was going to leave and commit suicide. You called me out. You encouraged me.
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You built me up. You gave me hope. You never said about darkness, suicide." You never said any of that. For 10 years, I've been shadowing you. And I just want you to know that word of encouragement saved my life. Wow.
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Now, I tell this other story. I had a woman come to me and said, 'I want you to give a prophetic word for this w other woman. She's very well known, but I can't tell you her name. Like I would
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know these famous people, rich people, what I Yes. So the first thing I see is I see this glass building business. I see it picked up, moved, coming. Believe I even said it's coming to Nashville. Mhm.
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And she would not give the word to the person because it was a granddaughter.
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The grandfather said, "We'll never move the family business." The father said, "We'll never move the family business." She said she'd never move the family business.
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But today, In-N-Out Burger is in Nashville Tennessee. Oh my goodness. What? Yeah. Now in it she did not give her the word and she went to find another word hid it by mistake and realized she that she had played the Holy Spirit because
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between that six month span after fourth month they made it public they're removing it but I prophesied it four months before it happened.
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Oh my. Now this is what I ask. What impresses you the most? the the moving of a several billion dollar business or the fact that that girl is still alive.
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See, I'm more interested in that girl that's still alive. Come on. Come on. See, if you don't put the value on the right thing, okay, you'll start chasing wrong goals. He gave the gift to be a witness.
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Wow. Now, I believe there's going to be a time I get to share that. Now as I share that when I share it you say well okay that's nice with the girl but if that happened with the business like you
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carry some weight but really to me the weight is with the girl not with the business but most people respect me more for the other we got two different agendas two different agendas I had I had a uh
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anyway I There are some other things I could share but the the thing is what I really want to focus is we live in a prophetic universe.
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We have every person has the ability to hear the voice of God and their voice whether with the enemy or God is a very powerful force and the devil wants to use people's voices in the earth because God gave
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authority to man to actually bend earth into something less than what God created. And if we don't believe this is our father's world, the devil don't own one inch of it.
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Here's the principality of the air. All he got is air. God has a third heaven and the Lord, the earth is the Lord, the fullness thereof.
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But we act like our father don't own it. Come on. And so therefore, we act like renters instead of land owners.
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And so when we start to say, "Hey, we're here to bring heaven to earth." A lot of Christians will make it to heaven, but a few will actually bring heaven to earth.
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And that's where God wants to. He's looking for people to bring heaven to earth. And you cannot bring heaven to earth without having a conversation with God. It starts in his word. If you don't read the word of God, don't even try to
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go for the prophetic. If you don't know the word, how would you know his words?
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Wow. So, if I hear a person pray for over five minutes, I can tell you what they believe. I can tell you how much they read their Bible and if they're feeling anointed or not, it'll all come right out of them.
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Wow. You can feel it. Have Have you ever been around somebody who's really anointed and you get around them? Next time they're dry as dust.
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Yes. Now, how do you know that? Cuz you got a spirit, too. Yes. And you can sense it.
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Yes. You know what it's like to feel anointed and what it's like to be dried. But you're surprised they are.
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Yes. Oh man, the discernment, man. I I want to I want to because there's so much you you have um you have so there's so many chapters that I kind of want to dig into, but I want to to to ask about this
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prophecy before time. You mentioned it a bit. Are you saying that we shouldn't give a prophetic word before time? We shouldn't accept a prophecy before time.
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What does that even mean? Prophecy before time. What does that mean? Go back and look what Okay. Yeah. What What What does that even mean? Prophecy before time.
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Uh don't I I think there's a couple of realms. You can just look there real while I'm going at it. But the thing is that we know the timing to give a word that we also um we give we don't judge a prophecy
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based on our calendar and that we learn how to move within the spirit. Sometimes I'll get a word and God say I've given it to you. I want you to intercede but I don't want you to give it to them now. I want you to go
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share this part with them. In other words, if everything God tells you, you say right away, it's like a good friend.
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I was going to tell you more, but if everything I say you repeat out loud, I'm not going to tell you as much.
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In other words, so there's a maturing of the relationship. That's good. So some things we hear, God said, I just want you to pray.
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Yes. And and also like if I if I I also just I'll throw this in. If I go by a person, I feel like I have a word and I feel like I miss the window.
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Uh I turn I don't let the devil come against me. I turn what that word into intercession over them.
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Oh, I love that. So I never let the devil get the upper hand over a missed opportunity. I come back and hit it through the prophetic prayer. That's so good. Yeah, that's so good. That's so powerful. How um how I don't know, you talk about
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hearing God's voice. I don't know if you talk about dreams. Yeah, dreams. I've had I've had I've had some powerful dreams. I don't dream as much as my wife, but I've had dreams where God will show me major things, major se
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seasons or shifts in my life. I'll actually dream. M and actually some of the ones that don't make sense become the ones that actually speak more if I will think and just say, "God, show me what it means. What does
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this picture? Why would this person be in it? That doesn't seem to be what do they represent? Oh, now I see it." And that but I've had some that uh uh I'll tell you the one that was the most
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different uh in this dream. I'm getting ready to rent like this military helicopter and I'm going through the yellow pages and I circle it and the Lord I take a ticket. I go to the airport and I get up
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and there's only two of these. I get up and I stand and and the Lord says stand in front of the wall and said, "No, move over there." And my wife is with me, my first wife. But she and all a sudden out
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of this brick wall, the stairs come down in front of me. I go up through the stairs. I go through the wall. I go into this like Apache military helicopter and I'm going down the road and there's all
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these power lines over me and they're trying to get up and they can't get through the power lines.
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And I was going through a a real hard time with some things over me and I all of a sudden the traffic backs up. They land the helicopter in the medium. I walked forward, the other helicopter was in the medium. It had been a shot
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down, had burned up. And I said, "Lord, what's going on?" And he said, "They thought you were in that helicopter." Wow.
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I said, "Why would they do that?" He said, "It's because what you're carrying, your attache case." I didn't even know I had one. And I opened it up.
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It was foam and there's this little thing in it. He said, 'What you're carrying is so powerful, they're trying to bring it down.
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Wow. And I woke up and I realized that literally that as my gift was coming forward now. See, jealousy among the saints is a weird thing.
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There's everybody is for you. But when you start to surpass them, come on. Now they're not so happy.
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Right? Okay. Now, I want you to think about this. The devil would rather use a jealous saint than a demon to come against you. Because a demon, you're looking for him and you plead the blood of Jesus.
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But you ain't looking for that saint. You're going to welcome them right in and give them cookies.
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Well, and think about this. Satan grew up in a pretty holy place. He likes hanging out in church. He'd rather hang out in church than in a bar. He feels more at home.
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Oh, man. Okay. It I'm not saying he's welcome. I'm just saying he was walking through heaven and uh you know God said, "Have you considered my servant Job?" I said, "God, you don't have to bring my name up
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to the devil." Okay, we we're okay with it. [laughter] But God bet God bet the devil.
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He said, "I know I lost on Adam, but I'll bet you on Job." Anyway, let's move on. So anyway, that's good.
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So anyway, so what's happened is think about Adam and Eve. They had two sons, Cain and Abel. worship.
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And God said, "Cain, do well." He was jealous because Abel's offering was accepted and his wasn't.
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That's right. And uh God said to Cain, he said, "Sin's crouching at the door for you. You better deal with it. It wasn't on him.
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Is at the door." And he went through that door and he went out in the field and he killed his brother.
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Now, that's a brother, not the devil. But it says in another scripture, he was a murderer from the beginning. Talking about the devil.
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And he came through jealousy in Cain and killed Abel. And so you have to understand that there are certain things within [clears throat] the family. And when you en encounter problems in the body of Christ, do not take it personal,
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but take it to prayer and have understanding. Wow. Now, I would say this about Joseph. Now, Joseph had a dream. Now, we're talking about dreams communicating.
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Yes. And actually, what I was carrying is what I'm doing now. My book on and David perceived he was king. Um, it went through a cycle. And you you write books, right?
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I haven't written the book yet. Okay. But but I I it's the first book I wrote back in 2015, but after I was on a couple of different programs, it went down like to best seller on Amazon like I
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think it was something like uh 8 8 something 800 and something under a thousand.
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Wow. I mean, now I was like I didn't know this was that God was going to use this in this way.
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Yes. When I was halfway through that book, I was so discouraged, almost quit. But what would happen in that book and David perceived he was king. It's like God would rain on me and I would start writing under the inspiration.
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And when I'd wake up in the morning, sometimes it'd be four hours, sometimes 15 minutes. But when it would lift, I would stop writing.
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Wow. But in the morning, this is the part Ezekiel I couldn't believe. I would look at the words and I realized the words were not the architect of the revelation God gave me, but they were a shadow. Some were exact, but some I said
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these are not these words are not good enough to to describe in detail what God was showing me.
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And now some of it it would be verbatim. I just let it alone. And then some I said these these three sentences I had to jam in because it was coming so fast.
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And I would sometimes work on that for an hour a paragraph until it set in my spirit that's what God was showing me.
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And uh it took me about probably two and a half years to write that book.
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Wow. And somebody asked me said, "Were you that slow?" I said, "Listen, I felt like God said people are going to base their life on it." I said I wanted to be that right.
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That's good. I was uh and so it for nine years it didn't hardly it I sold thousands of books you know uh through traveling and online but in one month I just sold over 2,000 books and it took off even more
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from there. I'm just talking and let alone all the audles and everything else. 2,000 books and it was like God said see that's what you were carrying.
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That's what I was developing. You didn't even know what I was doing in you and through you.
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And when I tell people this, and they said, "Why are you telling me this?" I said, "I never thought I'd write a book that would be a bestseller." Wow.
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That would hit number one in its category that get under a thousand on all of Amazon.
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Wow. And this one went under a thousand. Of course, it was a new release and and Dutch Sheets did a nice thing on it. And it got under a thousand, too.
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Wow. And I'm I'm like, how did this happen? And then God said, Dale, you don't really understand what I have put you through to get you to this place.
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And I want you to use your life as a pattern to encourage people like Ezekiel that they have no idea what they're carrying. They have no idea what I'm going to do through them. But I know.
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I know what I'm going to do through them. But all they're looking at is the hard times, the knocks. this door opening up and this one's slamming on top of them. This one they you get pushed forward, then you get pushed
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sideways and the Lord said, "I'm just checking out your balance in me." Wow. So like a David, he's about to be king. He's hiding and Ziklag gets burnt down.
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His own men are thinking about stoning him. He's lost his old family as far as he knows.
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That's right. And God said, "David, before you come king with all the ships down, you're nobody praying for you, you and me.
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I just want to know where are you at. Come on. Because if you need three other people, I can't do what I want to do through you. I need you for one moment. I'll give you friends back, but right now,
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just you and me with nothing to support you. Am I still good enough?" Oh, man.
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Will you strengthen yourself in me? Will you strengthen yourself in yourself? Will you try to rally your friends? Will you try to GoFundMe page? Is it you and me David or you going to be like King Saul? You
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live for the opinion of other people. Wow. Cuz I want to deal with it right now because you're about to be king. And you know this, you playing football. You ever play football, Ezekiel?
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Uh, not professionally, but yeah. Okay. You know, when you get close to that goal line, they hit you a little bit harder and more of them hit you.
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That's good. Maybe unless you're the Dallas Cowboys, you leave it big. I'm just kidding.
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[laughter] I'm a Philadelphia Eagles fan. I had to throw that in. Had to do it. Oh, man.
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Got to forgive me. And don't send me mail. I don't, you [laughter] know, I've always said the Eagles are in the Bible, not the Cowboys.
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But there is a star, so there's hope for all of you. Anyway, you have to have a little bit of fun, you know. But this is so you know when when you're being tested [snorts] and God's saying, you know, I want to
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find out how much glory you can handle because I really would like to use you, but I need to have this te I need you to be tested.
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So good, you know. So good. Listen, that that identity piece as it relates to David is so essential. And what you said what you said today, I'll never forget. You said evangelists war for your souls.
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Prophets war for your destiny. I think that's so incredible. But unfortunately, in this day and age, the prophetic voices have either been silenced. There are prophetic voices. There are people that are hearing from God that are not speaking what the Lord says. That are
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not being are not in position for where the Lord wants us to be. Which means that there are people that have been stifled in their position because if I don't know, if I'm not affirmed in what God say, look, look at where you are.
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It's you kind of heeding God and God using and positioning the right people at the right time. And in these stories, God's positioning you at the right place at the right time for people to get in contact with their destiny and to hear
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God. And so my concern is for the body. Honestly, the a lot of the camps and the people that I've known when they hear you talk about this stuff, they will call you more of a charismatic, Pentecostal, edgy,
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you know, kind of like the kooky type of Christians that are that, you know, we get our truth from the word of God. We don't need to hear from God. He doesn't need to speak to our hearts because
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that's when we can get theologically off. But if we open our Bibles, that is where we hear from God. We don't need to try to hear from God in any other way.
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How would you respond to that ideology? Well, Jesus said, [snorts] "What you have is the law and the prophets.
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You have the rules and you have where God talked to people." In the Old Testament, you're telling me we get the Holy Spirit and he don't want to talk.
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And he said, "The last days your sons and daughters will prophesy." Now, God is not a liar.
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Oh, man. Okay. Now, in it, [snorts] this is a part I'm not looking for the church to give me a platform. I'm looking for the Holy Spirit to give me a platform in the world.
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I don't need a platform. I have an anointing. Come on. I'm not I'm not manapproved. and and I know the word of God. That's the reason I'm a balanced prophet. I read my word, my wife and I, every morning. We pray.
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I live in the word and the words live through me. But God did not bring the Holy Spirit and say, "I'm not going to talk to anybody anymore." Now, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you what
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a Baptist pastor will tell you. a good fundamental Baptist who doesn't who is not spiritfilled. You know, I was going to go into business because my father had a business, but when I was 18, the Lord called me into ministry.
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I I went to Bible school and I felt that I was going to go to Florida to be a pastor, but the Lord revealed to me I needed to go to Florida. Today, I was going to preach on this message and God
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changed it. He spoke to me and I'm going to speak on this. Now, he can't say prophecy, but he can talk about answered prayer, being direct. He is hearing the voice of God.
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He just can't say the Pentecost, the word prophecy. Oh, I don't care if you want to call it answered prayer. I don't care if I know.
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All I'm saying is there communication. Oh my goodness. If I can have 15 minutes with any Christian, I can prove they've heard the voice of God. As a matter of fact, if you did not hear his voice, you
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came through another door. You had to hear his voice, the voice of the Lord through probably a preacher. You were listening to a preacher, but the voice of Jesus came through that preacher and caused you to give your life to Jesus.
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You heard that preacher many times, but that day Jesus was talking through the preacher.
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So, I'm right in the fundamentals backyard and in it they believe in answered prayer. And if you believe in answered prayer, this is the deal.
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You're prophetic. [laughter] I'm I will meet you where you're at. So, don't just make it stand up and for thus says the Lord. See, you know, a preacher when he starts preaching better than he studied, come on.
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That's God speaking through it. That's right. When a counselor counsels better than he knows, that's a spirit of the counselor, the great counselor. When literally, you know, I had the Lord tell me I, you know, and I, people said,
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Dale, you have a lot of wisdom. And I was thinking about said, Lord, yeah, you give you made me very wise. So one day the Lord said, Dale, could you me talk a little bit about this wisdom thing? He
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said, you know, it says because we have the spirit of God, we have the thoughts of God. Doesn't say we have the words of God. We have the thoughts.
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You have thoughts that come from Ezekiel. You have thoughts that come from Jesus inside of you who is a prophet.
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And he still likes to speak to you. Oh, hallelujah. And through you. Jesus the prophet. I'm going to leave the Holy Spirit out just for a minute. Jesus the prophet. I say Jesus is a prophet. Jesus lives in me.
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There's a prophet living in me. He speaks to me and through me. Jesus is a teacher. There's a teacher living in me. He teaches me and he teaches through me. Jesus is a healer.
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Jesus the healer lives in me. He will not change his identity based on your theology.
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He everything he is is coming in. But I one pastor he said, "Well, you know, I don't believe that healing is for today." And the other pastor looked at him, "For you that's true, but it's not true for me because I believe it."
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Because whatever you believe is what you receive. Oh, and so your belief system will match your future.
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But the Lord was speaking to me and he said, "Dale, you know that part over there? You know that thing that really worked out well? That was me that gave you that thought. I gave you the thought. Do that." I said, "Thank you."
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He said, "You know that over there, that thing that really went well?" He said, "That was my thought in your thoughts and you you went with it as well." He said, "You know that over there didn't go so well." He said, "That's you
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without me." [snorts] He said, "Don't ever think the wisdom is you without me." He said, "I'm in your thoughts." So, this is what I say to each person listening to my voice. His heart is in your heart. His words are in your words.
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His thoughts are in your thoughts. His life is through your life. Hallelujah. The I am is in you. And when you speak, even just sharing your testimony, prayer for people, God is speaking through you.
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It don't have to be in any other fashion that you think. It just happens because you're one with him.
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And Jesus said, "I don't I don't speak anything of my own accord." He could, but he just spoke what he heard the father. See, because if you look in 1 Corinthians 2 uh 9-16, it says no man knows the thoughts of
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God. No man does. But the spirit knows the thoughts of God. We've not received the spirit of this world, but the Holy Spirit who knows all the thoughts of God.
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So good. So now this is the deal. When you wake up, how do you get your how do you get your thinker thunking?
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Do you go, "Oh, now it works." Do you know your thoughts work so well? You dream while you're sleeping. Your thoughts come on you while you're sleeping. It's easier than you think.
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You can think while you're sleeping. If you go to bed, you can actually have fear dreams. So, but in talking about dreams, if you have nightmares, you need to plead the blood of Jesus. break that demonic spirit because what the devil's
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trying to do through fear, loss, and pain is is to tie your spirit man up in repeated dreams of torture so that you cannot dream what God wants to give you that will take you into your future.
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Come on. You're one dream away from changing everything about your life. [snorts] Joseph had two dreams to get him through two nightmares.
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[laughter] That's so good. That's so good, man. Listen, that what you just said in this final piece, I think that should change everyone's life, the thoughts in our thoughts, his word, his heart in our hearts. Because then that makes me
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realize that we're having active prophetic moments often times throughout our days. Like when I got the thought to intercede for my mother or to intercede for this person, it's not coming from me.
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Yeah. That is a thought coming from the spirit that knows the thoughts of God. Yeah.
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Yeah. Let me give you an example. You call somebody up. Say, "I just had you on my heart. Just want to talk to you.
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How's it going?" They start crying. You end up praying for them. You give them a scripture. And before they hang up and say, "I know God had you call me." But you don't listen. You don't believe it.
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You just think it was random. God tapped. You need to call that person. And and you just yielded. You think, "Well, that it just came to me as a thought." The Holy Spirit knows the thoughts of God. So we need to I repent
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for for uh confusing the spirit of God with with co coincidence and randomization. It's not random. It's not coincidence.
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No. No. And when you and you say we're led by the spirit. Now this is the deal.
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If you don't know the word of God, you won't know how to minister a word.
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If you don't know the word of God, you don't know God and you can't move prophetically.
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Uh and I this is what I found. People that first get spiritfilled, they'll move prophetically. But if they won't get in the word, they will get weird because God will not have somebody given words that won't get in his word.
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Wow. So you have to get in the word. But if you get in the word and you never give any words, you say, "What do you mean?" Well, if you read the Bible and you never share a word, you know, when you
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give somebody counsel, you aren't quoting scripture. You're referring to scripture. You might quote a scripture, but then you give wisdom. based on all the word, you're actually moving in a prophetic council of thoughts between scriptures. You're building a grid,
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wow, of scriptures. And if you only know two scriptures, you're you have a very narrow access. The more you know the word of God, the more you can counsel by the spirit of God because the spirit is in the word. And if the word is in you,
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the spirit knows how to get it out. If the bread of life is in you, if you're if you're plugged in and cooking, you're going to bake some bread that's going to bring somebody to life. [laughter] I hope I just made it real simple.
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That's too good. That was too good. I don't know. See, in the black church, we would have threw our shoes. We would have [laughter] that that was getting real good real fast. Man, I'm blessed because I've been gifted. See, some of you guys don't
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know, it's it's really a blessing to be in this position because um you've been gifted so much wisdom and some of these books that you have um a lot of people do have their hands on them and I want
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to make sure that my audience gets them. I'm going to put all the links in the description. We have and David perceived he was king and then we also have the throne of David. Is this Yeah, this is
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this one is about leadership and authority and the force of vision. And of course, uh the main one that we're talking about today, the secrets to hearing God's voice. So, we're going to put all the links in the description. We
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know that these are bestsellers. Let's double whatever that is and let's just get let's get as this in as many hands as possible. What I really love about this is the prophetic voice and hearing God's voice is not just about making us feel
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cool because the truth about it is God's consistently speaking and he's privileging us to be vessels to be able to launch others into intimacy with him into furthering their walk with him.
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Man, we are this is this is the way that we can do so. And like you said that was you said something I don't you skip past it and I don't want to skip past that idea. What are we doing if all we're
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doing is accumulating the reading of the word? We're reading the word. We say I'm reading the word. I'm reading the word.
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But we're muffling the opportunities that God is giving us to declare it in our lives for our families for those around us. And because we have relegated the prophetic or you know these opportunities as oh that's for the
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prophet. Yeah. We we miss opportunities for God to use us prophetically on a daily basis. And the last thing I'll say is what I love about you is that you have this expectation that God can and will speak to the
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people that you encounter and that will be an open door for them to come into relationship with him. It is a tool like you said to reach the world. We don't think about it like that.
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Yes, man. That changes my life. It changes my mind. And I'm going to start praying even more that my encounters are laced with opportunities to just say, "God, what do you want to say in this conversation? Blow somebody's mind.
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Speak to my heart. Help me, God. Help me, God, to be able to be a vessel and a mouthpiece for you in this conversation." So, if you can, if there's any last things you want to say for those who are listening, and if you
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could pray for those that are listening, man, that would be wonderful. Yes. And there are two other books I didn't bring in. One's Two Sons and the Father talking about breaking the orphan spirit about seeing yourself as a son. And if you
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don't see yourself as a son, you'll never ask because asking is a is a privilege hidden from orphans but known by sons.
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The prodal asked and he received. The other one is shattering the limitations of pain where pain in our past diminishes our value and we settle for less. And the problem is we achieve it thinking we've maxed our call.
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Success is when you win. Destiny is when you help other people win. Now, as I'm praying for your guest, this is the part you were given the word of God.
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It says the word of faith is even in your mouth. The knowledge needs to go into your spirit. It needs to come out of your mouth. And that faith becomes a seed in somebody else's life. You may say, "Well, I don't feel like I can get
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pictures." That's okay. Start with what you can get. Give somebody a word. Look at somebody and I feel like God's saying only be strong and courageous. Now, you're stealing Joshua's prophetic word, but only be strong and courageous. I
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hear God saying that. You can quote the scripture. Or you could look at somebody. I feel like you're Joshua and you need to read Joshua. It's time for you to take some land. You can take and refer to Bible scriptures. But if you
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don't know the Bible, you can't refer to it. You could also refer to Nehemiah.
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It's a building season. Somebody right now, it's a Nehemiah season and you feel like the stones are burnt, but God says, "I want you to rebuild what was burnt and it's going to be a restoration of a ministry. It's going to be a restoration
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of a life. It's going to be a restoration uh where God gets involved because people start to build together everybody." And I felt like I saw a church that was divided coming together out of a Nehemiah spirit. Last thing I
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want to tell you, it says that by that in the end of the Old Testament, beginning of New Testament, in the last days, I'll restore the tabernacle of David.
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That is not just worship. It's a throne of authority. Come on. And it's a purpose in the earth.
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David restored Israel back to worship and brought a picture of the kingdom of God to that world. and he brought forth the glory of God and he literally shifted Israel back to God. And I believe this that the tabernacle of David starts with
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our worship of him, but it goes to where we literally start to bring other people into relationship.
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That's so good. You know, David killed a giant and until then, nobody believed it. But after he did it, four of his warriors did it. And I want to tell you something, Ezekiel. When you take down a giant,
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people that look to you start taking down giants. People set their faith based on what they see you can do. And so we need to be markers, both you and I.
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That's right. to other people saying, "Listen, if you'll stand in faith, if you'll start speaking, if you'll start and and you know, I want to encourage you. Some of you are out there say,"Well, you know, I don't have enough
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faith to speak to other people." Well, how about start speaking to yourself? Look in the mirror and say, "The spirit of boldness is coming on you. You were made to win." Listen, God created you to win. Sin made you a loser. You were born
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again to win again. Huh? You were never created a loser. That's a sin effect. You were born again to win again. And don't you plan on anything small in your life. We serve a great God. Hallelujah. Who put part of
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his genius in you. And he wants great glory. And the only way he can do it is doing something great through you and me. And don't back off because if you'll step in like David, listen, David ran toward Goliath. God
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never asked David to fight Goliath. He simply wanted to. I pray God will put the one two in you. Say, Lord, because I have covenant you, I'm believing that my life is going to make a difference and break fear off of other people. Take on
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the impossible. I'm going to rise up in that anointing. I know I may feel little. I'm not qualified, but I'm in covenant with you. And I have a breaker anointing because you're the breaker and you're in me. And you know what David
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knew as he ran toward Goliath? For me to die is for God to fail because [clears throat] he was in covenant.
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Wow. That's so good. You're in covenant and God wants to show himself mighty through you. He's looking throughout the earth to find those who are loyal to him.
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Not just faithful. Wow. Loyal. In other words, you're in it for the long haul. Which is faithful. Yes.
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Not just have a great gift. loyal like, "Hey, I'm with you to the end in this." Yes.
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So, I bless you and I bless your dreams and that God will start using your words to cause somebody else to see their life differently. You will encourage, you'll build up your edify, and I will tell you this, sometimes God will give you
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pictures and it'll be exactly what's happening. Wow. I was prophesying to a man in church, introduced, don't know who he was. I said, "You're between one season, old season, new season." I said, "You on a plane going to California and
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God's going to have you in a conversation. It'll change everything." The guy that called me over to talk to him, uh, he said, "This guy, you don't know what he used to do. He used to be involved in this kind of production,
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TVs, his shows, and he's leaving that what what he used to do, going into something new." And I looked at the guy, I said, "Well, so you live around here." He said, "No, I live in California. I'm getting a reply back now.
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I was amazed. And I'll tell you this, when you're amazed at what God says through you, then it gets really interesting.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, man. I'm excited. I'm excited. Listen, thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for your words, man.
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Thank you for the encouragement. I want um man I just feel like I know everywhere that you minister when I'm thinking about that ministry in Asia I know that so many lives were changed and the fact that we get you back in the
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states and I just feel like you're an igniter. There's just revival in you and you you remind me of them old school old school ministers that can bring the fire back. Thank you so much for bringing the fire back to this audience. I thank God
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that they were able to catch this. I wasn't expecting this. I didn't I guess I didn't fully wash everything that I needed to because I didn't know you got down like this. So, thank you once again. And y'all tap into to these
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resources, man. I'm so grateful that God has been blessing me with connecting me with people I never knew before that have a wealth of resources that are going to help us elevate as a kingdom.
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So, thank you so much. Yes. And remember this, when you have a little talk with Jesus, everything's going to be all right.
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You'll feel that firewilt burning, something turning. Expect it. Oh [sighs and gasps] man. Now, you might be asking, what is the gospel? The gospel is very simple. That you are a sinner and that you are on your way to hell without a shadow of a
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doubt. You were born in sin and [music] the wrath of God abides on you and you do not deserve to go there by way of your sin. But while you [music] were still a sinner, God sent his son Jesus
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who loved you and died [music] for you as your substitutionary sacrifice. Which means he died in your place so that you could live his life, which means [music] he died for your sin. He was buried and 3 days later he resurrected from the
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dead. And if you would confess with your mouth, the Lord Jesus, [music] and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. That's out. That's out here. No, no. I'm talking about the real Jesus
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[music] of the Bible, the eternal son of God that became a man. God manifested in [music] the flesh that became a man and in 33 years he died on the cross providing redemption, buying us back, translating us out of the kingdom of
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darkness into the kingdom of his dear [music] son. which means he redeemed us back to God. He reconciled you back to God by way of his death on the cross.
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And so [music] you're probably saying, "How can I be saved?" Very simple. All you have to do is [music] repent of your sin. I'm not talking about 360, talking about 180. You turn. You turn from your sin. You believe in [music] the gospel
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exclusively. Just Jesus. I'm not talking about Jesus and Mary. [music] I'm not talking about Jesus and Buddha. I'm not talking about Jesus and some other centralized figure. And I'm not even talking about Jesus and your spiritual father and destiny and all of that. No,
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no, no. There's only one way to heaven. Jesus said, "I am the [music] way. I am the truth. I am the life. And nobody comes unto the father except through me." Jesus is exclusively the only way.
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You want to know why he's [music] the only way? Because he's not only the only way. He is the door to enter in.
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And the only way you could get in is by way of repentance. You must repent and become born again. Why? [music] Cuz only sons and daughters can become citizens in the kingdom. Outsiders can't come in.
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But Jesus died on that cross and he made the way open for you. And if you confess with your mouth the Lord [music] Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you shall be
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saved. I'm not talking about all this other stuff to get saved. No, no, no.
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Just believe. Believe in him. [music] the efficacy of Christ's work on the cross as the substitutionary sacrifice in exchange [music] for your sin, which means you give up your sin.
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You give it to him. He exchanges it and takes on [music] your sin. Yes.
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But he gives you his righteousness. And then you are righteous and justified by faith in Jesus. And when you have justification because of Jesus, now you have peace with God. You have peace with God. And watch this. And now he will no
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longer be just your God. He is now your heavenly father through the person of the son Jesus. Why don't you pray that prayer right now? Just repeat after me.
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Say, "Lord, I believe that I am a sinner and that I deserve to go to hell, but God, you sent your son." Go ahead. Those of you that are watching, repeat what I'm saying. Say, "God, [music] you sent
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your son, Jesus Christ, to die for my sin. He was buried. [music] Three days later, he resurrected from the dead. I [music] now confess you, Lord Jesus, as my Lord, as my [music] savior, come into my heart. Come into my
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life and wash me from my sin. [music] And now say this. Say, "Holy Spirit, I surrender my life to you. Make me born again in Jesus [music] mighty name." My friend, if you said that prayer, whichever way you said
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that prayer, as long as you believe, confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and that he died on the cross for you and 3 days later he resurrected and you repented and believe that message, the Bible says, "Whoever calls on the name
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of the Lord shall be saved." [music] You are saved, my friend. Here's what I want you to do. There's going to be an email that's going to be put on the video right here. And I want you to write I
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want you to write this channel and [music] tell them that you accepted Christ as your savior. and brother Ezekiel and this the administrative staff of this channel will help you find a local church in your area that will
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point you in the right direction but we need to hear from you say man of God and that broadcast I know you guys are talking about demons and devils but I ended up getting saved and I ended up renouncing all other gods
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which means you got to renounce all other gods [music] and believe exclusively on the son of god and welcome to the family of god and but I Let's tell you this right now.
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It is like nothing you've ever experienced before. This year, we know that God is going to move mightily.
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[music] The speakers that we have apart, tremendous. The programming, oh, is so spiritled that you don't want to miss it. Trust me when I say this. This is going to be the most life-changing restored [music] that we have ever had.
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I want you guys to be a part. Those of you that are watching from Instagram or Facebook, [music] the link is in bio. I cannot wait to see you guys break bread, fellowship with y'all, man. Share our stories, man. God is going to be
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glorified [music] in a tremendous way. Make sure you register now because we know that seating will be limited. I cannot wait to see each and every one of you a part of this. [music] It's going down. Peace.
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