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Chan Young was born, and his dad is Yoon Sang. When did you know your dad was a singer?
A heartfelt conversation between singer Yoon Sang and his son Chan Young, exploring their musical journey and family bond.
Key Takeaways
- Family bonds can be complex but strengthened through shared passions like music.
- Open communication helps bridge gaps even when family members are busy or distant.
- Pursuing a career in music involves emotional challenges and mutual support.
- Personal stories and humor enrich the understanding of family dynamics.
- Quality time and effort invested in family relationships are invaluable.
Summary
- Chan Young discusses growing up with his father, singer Yoon Sang, and their shared musical background.
- The video features a special Family Month episode with Yoon Sang and his son ANTON from RIIZE.
- The host introduces the French outdoor brand Aigle, showcasing its stylish and functional clothing.
- Yoon Sang and Chan Young share personal stories about their relationship, including childhood memories and music careers.
- They talk about the challenges and emotions involved in pursuing music and maintaining family ties.
- The conversation touches on Chan Young’s allergies and family pets, adding a personal touch.
- They reflect on past collaborations and appearances on shows like You Quiz.
- Yoon Sang expresses pride and support for his son's musical ambitions and achievements.
- The video includes light-hearted moments and humor, highlighting their close but sometimes distant relationship.
- The episode emphasizes the importance of communication and understanding within families.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction and Family Background
- 01:55Sponsor Segment: Aigle Outdoor Brand Introduction
- 03:35Aigle Clothing Details and Features
- 04:52Arrival of Uncle and Family Reunion
- 08:27Discussion about Allergies and Pets
- 10:05Drinking Habits and Past TV Appearances
- 11:56Family Dynamics and Music Career Beginnings
- 18:35Reflections on Music and Family Support
- 23:19Closing Thoughts and Heartfelt Moments
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Around 2011? That was probably your first time seeing me on stage. When I met IU?
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IU comes to his mind before me... You used to work late at night a lot back then.
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When I could hear it from the first floor, I'd press my ear against the floor like this.
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And... We can talk about this now because everything worked out. There's that worried dad face again. lol Please take care of your health.
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I know. That's so cool. So cool. That's a huge deal. This makes me so happy.
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Hello everyone. Welcome to Fairy Table. Spring is finally here in full swing, so we decided to shoot in the garden.
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We're opening the show a bit differently today. The garden isn't quite sorted out yet.
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I just got back from France, so... I'm not fully awake yet. I'm still hibernating like a bear.
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I'm so sleepy. Anyway... Today's Fairy Table features some very special guests for May. Our entire staff spent about a year working hard to make this happen.
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We put a whole year of effort into this for Family Month. Yoon Sang and ANTON of RIIZE.
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You all know how they're related, right? Father and son. They're close, but... I felt a bit of distance between them.
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They're close, but they might not share everything. Let's hear what kind of stories they have for us.
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We have a sponsor today. I'm wearing it right now. It's Aigle. To explain a little bit about Aigle, it's France's national outdoor brand.
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But calling it just an outdoor brand doesn't do it justice. I just went to France, and Aigle is...
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There was a store right in my neighborhood. Based on French sensibility, you can easily spot it in Paris.
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People wear it to work even over their suits! They wear it on motorcycles and the subway because it's just that versatile.
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It doesn't look like you're trying too hard. You just throw it on. I'm wearing the MTD Parka Jacket.
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As you can see, it's khaki. It has a subtle shine to it. So it doesn't look too heavy or military-like.
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It just looks stylish. This would be perfect for a walk. With the right innerwear, you can wear it from February to fall.
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I actually did some research on this. It uses MTD technology which makes it water-repellent, waterproof, breathable, and windproof.
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It's also incredibly light. It's Aigle's exclusive technology. You just throw it on, but it captures both function and fashion.
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What I'm wearing underneath is the Modern Fisherman Shirt. It's inspired by French maritime culture.
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It's a modern take on sailor shirts combining functionality with fashion. It looks so fashionable on its own.
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You can just casually wear it like this. The stitching isn't too overwhelming. It doesn't look like you tried too hard, but it adds a lively vibe.
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I feel like I could keep and wear this for the rest of my life.
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So, like this... It has a slightly oversized, anorak-like fit, so you can just throw it over a shirt.
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Or just wear it over a short-sleeve shirt. I think it'd look really nice even with a tie.
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It's so nice. But this is the real deal. I'm going to buy another one of these.
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Fisherman shorts lol You know I'm a huge fan of shorts, right? Let me tell you how good these are.
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They go with the Fisherman Shirt as part of the same collection. These shorts are also inspired by maritime culture.
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You can tell just by looking at them, right? They have a cargo pants style and they have so many pockets.
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Why? Because in the summer we don't wear jackets, so we always lack pocket space.
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That's why cargo pants are so useful. These have plenty of pockets and the thickness is...
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You have to try this on. It's so thin. I love it. But the belt is inside.
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Can you see my stomach? It has a belt buckle, so you just throw it on.
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And the length is great. The fabric feels like the Modern Fisherman Shirt. I can't even explain it.
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It's so light. Honestly, if you're not careful, you might think you're in your underwear.
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I'm exaggerating, but still. It has UV-C protection and is water-repellent. What's UV-C? Does it block the sun?
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"I'll wear this for the rest of my life." The quality makes you think that.
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Aigle's most famous item! It rains a lot in France during the winter, so everyone around there only wears these.
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The Mid Rubber Boots. These are amazing. These are... So comfortable right here. The insoles.
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These are so comfortable. Mid Rubber Boots? These rain boots. They're great for the rain, but they're especially perfect for gardening.
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Because when you're gardening, slippers aren't great because of the dust. Stuff keeps getting in.
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But these boots protect you from trees. You get scratched by branches, right? But with shorts and these boots, you're totally fine.
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As you can see, they completely block out the water. I know Aigle started as a boot brand, so this is their core idea.
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Making durable and comfortable items. Boots can be a bit much, so they have these clogs.
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They're waterproof, so they're easier to wear. They feel stable and grippy! Like you won't slip!
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This looks good on me too. I introduced France's top outdoor brand, Aigle. It's so practical and pretty.
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You can just throw it on for a spring picnic. Please show Aigle a lot of love.
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I should go inside and cook now. I'll just wear this today! It's so comfortable!
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- How should we say hi? - Just say hello! You really don't remember back then?
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When you came to Korea as a baby. His face comes out from here. lol What is that? lol I haven't seen my dad in a while either...
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Sir, you're here! Oh, why? Why are you... - Why are you just...! - Jae Hyung.
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- He's a senior... - Hello. Hello. Your uncle is a senior. Uncle. - First time seeing him grown up? - Remember me?
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He doesn't remember. Oh! My wings are caught! - Do you remember me? - Of course!
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- Really? - Yes! - Don't lie. lol - Even back then... You were wearing clothes like this...
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- Are you crazy? - Chan Young is confused. lol Come on in. lol Oh? Chan Young came as a TV star? lol Come to think of it, it's your first time here.
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It's my first time. Hello. It looks different from the screen. Did it look like crap on screen?
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No, no. It's much more spacious! It's pretty! So pretty. Chan Young. He looks great on camera.
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He's so used to the camera. lol We were screaming when we came in, but Chan Young walked in so calmly.
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Go in and sit down. Anyway, I brought some wine. Oh, great. Thank you. I felt empty-handed. Could I just come like that?
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You're turning your back to the camera! I told you to just come. You should've just come. lol How could I just come empty-handed?
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- Oh my. - Wow, I finally get to see him. I finally get to visit Jae Hyung's house.
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Right. Please have a seat. I heard Chan Young has allergies. But did you put Hae Deum away?
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- Hae Deum is... - My dog. I really wanted to see him. I love dogs too.
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You love them, but you have allergies? His swim teacher has a dog about Hae Deum's size, and when he walks where the dog was, his face gets all red and swollen.
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That can happen. So I vacuumed the house twice today, but I'm still worried your allergies might act up.
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I was a bit worried, so I made sure to clean up. To have you two over! I waited a whole year.
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Thanks for having us. Thank you. Do you get to see Chan Young often? I try to go home whenever I have a day off or some free time.
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Luckily, this year I think we've seen each other three or four times. Right? Oh, is that a lot?
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You guys must be awkward then. No, not at all! Huh? Chan Young thinks so.
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lol Not really. Wow, teasing you two is so much fun. Have you two been on a show together?
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Together? When Chan Young was in the US, we shot a documentary. No, Jae Suk's show... Oh, that was...
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RIIZE was on it together. - Right, You Quiz. - You Quiz. - Oh, you went on You Quiz together? - Yeah.
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- Oh, then... - With RIIZE. So this isn't the first time. It's the first time just the two of us.
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I wanted to talk to you both since I've known him since he was a baby.
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- Right. - So I heard you drink a little now. Oh, just a little.
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- A little? - I shouldn't drink too much. - He never drinks with us. - Just...
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We don't drink hard liquor anyway. Yeah, I just drink a little champagne. Chan Young, is your Korean still a bit rusty?
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It's rustier than you'd think. Why didn't you teach him Korean? We tried to use it at home as much as possible.
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Hye Jin did. Oh, I just called her Hye Jin. Well, she is Hye Jin.
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Yeah, Hye Jin. lol Did you speak English with your mom too? No, I spoke Korean with her, but there are quite a few words I don't know. Words and spelling.
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There's a photo you took with me but your dad couldn't find it. You were in my piano room.
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But he was just starting to walk back then. Wow. How could you possibly remember that?
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- lol I remember... - Right. He's just pretending. I think I remember. I should serve you first.
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No, I'll do it. Okay fine. Wait, this is my favorite lamp. Even I'm careful with it.
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Wait a sec! Stay still. Isn't this enough? It's poking you. A little to the front.
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If we pull this forward a bit... But if we pull it forward, this lamp looks really scary.
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Sit a bit closer to your dad. Shall we move over a bit? One, two, three.
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Careful. Okay. Yeah, you can sit there. There we go. Perfect. Thank you. This old man... He's worried about being a nuisance.
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It's fine. lol It's been a while with you too. But we met on the radio.
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But that was a long time ago too. Chan Young, didn't you just finish a world tour?
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Yeah, it recently ended. How busy are you? Most recently, we went to South America.
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We performed at a festival called Lollapalooza. Lollapalooza. You introduced me to all the Third World music.
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I really listened to South American music because of you. - That's actually why I...! - Really?
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I think I got to know a lot of that music since I was young.
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Oh, did your dad play it for you? He played some of it, but I think I just learned it naturally.
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Oh, by the way, when are you going to Japan? Japan is... What kind of small talk is this?
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Did you two rehearse this? We were just talking about South America. lol - South America's done. - South America's done.
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Because in about three or four days - You're going to Japan for a while. - Right.
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We're going to start preparing for our next mini album so we're going to Japan first to shoot some photos.
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How long will you be there? About 10 days, and then we go to Thailand for another festival.
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And then? They must only give you the schedule last minute. They don't really give you the whole schedule or tell you when you can rest.
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We barely know. Even when he comes home, he just asks, "Can I come over now?" Then we just panic.
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Hold on... Let's clean up. Let's clean up. lol Not being able to see Chan Young because he's busy is also kind of nice. lol No, not at all.
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Wait, did you get a new watch? - This... Hey... - That's a nice one.
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This... He... He bought it for you?! He flexed for his dad. That's so cool.
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So cool. - It's secondhand! - I wanted to hear this... Still, that's amazing. - I have to drink to this. - Let's have a drink.
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I'm so happy. He knows his dad likes watches. It's Family Day. A Family Day special.
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Family Month! So today, let's talk about Sang first. Do you know when he debuted as a composer?
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It's a quiz! One, two, three. Around 90... I know it's been about 30 years...
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Why would I teach my son about that? - Is that a thing? - Do I need to teach him?
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But wouldn't it be rewarding to talk about it? - True. - As his uncle I'm going to cram it into his head!
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Still... The first song he sold was... - He sold a song? - "One Summer Night's Dream".
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Right right. What year do you think that was? Hmm. I was 20. He debuted at 20 too.
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He debuted at 20 with Kim Hyun Sik's song. How did you end up writing for Kim Hyun Sik's album?
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I started writing "One Summer Night's Dream" as a high school sophomore and finished it as a senior. It took a while.
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I made a demo tape with that song, "You in My Memories," and a few others and played it for Han Young Ae and Kim Jong Jin.
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Then one day, Hyun Sik suddenly gave me a call. I said, "Hello?" And he said, "Yoon Sang, I'm going to sing it." "Is this a dream?" That's how it happened.
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But... I didn't get to go to the studio. He didn't invite me. - "I'll just record it." - Right, right.
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"Oh, okay! Thank you!" So about three months later his new album came out. We had no internet then and he wasn't a singer who appeared on TV.
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And he must have called your house phone, right? Yeah, my house phone. So I went to the record store and saw Kim Hyun Sik's 4th album. I bought it, looked at it, and my name was written on it.
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I couldn't believe my eyes. Debuting as a composer at 20 wasn't easy back then.
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Right. Looking back now, I think I was really lucky. Wasn't it smooth sailing for you? As a composer at that age.
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Yeah, but how could I make a living off one song? Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Anyway, back then I had to be the breadwinner. I feel like I'm talking about the Korean War, but...
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Chan Young looks like a nephew visiting for a memorial service. No, I don't. Just listen. lol When else would you hear this?
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So when my music started getting known I played in Kim Wan Sun's backup band for a year, from '88 to '89.
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Live! Whenever she had a chance to sing with a band we went and played live.
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But how did you end up debuting? Let's fast-forward a bit! It's from way back.
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Tell me if you get sleepy. - I'm not. - Want to go take a nap?
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...We have plenty of time. You haven't heard this story before, right? Did you know your dad was in a band?
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I knew about the band and saw photos, but we've never really talked about it in depth like this.
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Anyway, while I was in the band... Munch on this if you're bored. - This... - Let me ask you...
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Do you eat cheese? - You're basically a chef. - Yeah, I love cheese. Really? Then...
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They used to serve chives with cheese in France. Put it on your fork and eat it with the chives.
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You should eat it like that too. And please keep telling your story. Got it. lol Kim Wan Sun is key here. You asked why I became a singer, right?
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Her manager back then was a guy named Kim Kwang Soo. And I was in her backup band.
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So we'd see each other occasionally. Then one day, he asked me "Want to try being a singer?" I said, "A singer? I don't think that's for me." But he kept persuading me for about a year.
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He figured out exactly what I needed. Money. I had a mountain of instruments I wanted to buy.
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So he said, "I'll give you..." "Hard cash for them!" And that's how it happened.
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I had never even sung before but he offered me money. I recorded without even knowing my own key.
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- Your key? Oh, vocal range? - Yeah, vocal range. I just thought, "I'm a guy." lol "I should be able to hit an A, right?" But once the lyrics were added, it got too hard.
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I must've sung "Fleetingly passes by" 300 times. I couldn't hit the note. I've never sang it live in its original key.
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Is that why you were like that? Even way back when we hung out in the 2000s you used to tell me "Jae Hyung, why do you write your songs so high?" "But you can hit those notes!" "You can sing high!"
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Did you hear that? - lol - Edit this out. "You can force it out!" But I couldn't even force it.
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I developed stage fright from it. I learned my limits, so from my 2nd album, I lowered the key a bit.
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When Yoon Sang's first album came out, that it would be such a huge hit...
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nobody knew. But it was, and as a singer-songwriter, you produced everything yourself. I think you opened a whole new chapter for singer-songwriters.
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- Thanks... - Actually you brought underground artists into the TV spotlight for a bit.
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But my one complaint back then was... I envied the guys who succeeded without TV.
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Especially with your personality going on stage was tough for you. - You really struggled with that, right? - Big time.
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You went on shows and "Sunday Sunday Night," right? - I was on a lot. - Right? And there everyone saw Yoon Sang's face and thought "What's with that melancholic face?" Do you know what melancholic means?
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...Melancholic? - Melancholic face. - Melancholic face. Like, "He's outstanding!" Outstanding? It was kind of like that.
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You were super handsome when you were young. Plus you made music, so people loved you.
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And you made slightly sad music. So whenever Yoon Sang's music played I felt like a sophisticated city slicker.
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Ugh... What's wrong with you? - He's blushing! lol - Am I blushing? I really hate stuff like this.
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But he's one of the people I want to trap in a praise prison. When I heard you were coming on "Our Ballad" the shoot was in Incheon.
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I listened to your albums on the way there, especially "Moving," which I love. In this exhausting life the power this music gives you...
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Even though we're close, I really felt the true value of your album. On the way to Incheon I listened to it like crazy and thought "Wow, listen to this bass!" "Man, listen to this rhythm!" "Only Yoon Sang can make 8-beats sound like this."
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I even filmed a video of it. You're so annoying. But he really was like that. He was an idol to us.
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He never settled either. You know he's a total perfectionist! Did you know about that? That your dad was like that back then?
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The album I released when you were seven was my last official album. I haven't released an album since then.
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- That's true. - Yeah, 2009 was my last one. Why? Are you sick of making them?!
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- You're just coming at me like this? lol - No, it's because... Remember I sent you a video of your live performance on "Open Concert"?
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Seeing you perfectly in sync with the band at one point was just so much fun to watch.
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You effortlessly pulled off that restrained vibe. Thanks... But why aren't you releasing an album?
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It's not that I don't want to. I'm still preparing for various projects right now.
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But I once announced when I'd release an album and then ended up scrapping it.
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I didn't want to go back on my word again to the people waiting for me.
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Why? Why did you scrap it? I wanted to try making an album with a full band so I tried recording a track. But...
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It didn't turn out the way I envisioned. Then? The ori... Ah that...! So... I felt like I'd regret it later if I released it.
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- Come on! Just release it. - So now... Are you thinking of trying again?
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But your band sound has this unique vibe that no one else can replicate. - But kids these days are just too good. - They really are.
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And like I told you before RIIZE didn't have a live band when I first saw them perform in Korea.
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But they had a band for their South America tour, and wow, they were good.
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They produce a totally different sound from our generation. So it's a good thing I scrapped my project. Imagine if I released it with a band sound, but they sounded way cooler than me.
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How embarrassing would that be? It's okay to be a little less cool. You're Yoon Sang, you're already cool.
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Ugh...! But your dad really is that kind of person. - A bit of a perfectionist. - Actually, sometimes I listen to his entire albums too. Especially his...
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20th Anniversary album? The 20th anniversary one. Ah, the 20th anniversary? That has everything from my 1st to 6th album.
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I've been listening to it since I was a kid. Maybe that's why it holds more meaning to me.
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Sometimes when a track hits right, I send him the link. - Like, "This is so good." - When he gets hooked on a certain track, he sends me the link to it.
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It's his way of saying, "This song sounded good today." I was going to talk about Chan Young later, but let's just dive into it now.
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You know what really surprised me? That this strict, cynical, and sensitive person when Chan Young said he wanted to pursue music.
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I was most shocked by, "Wait, he said okay?" Well, I made him play piano since he was a kid.
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Uncle Jae Hyung is the one he always called "Piano Uncle." I've always had some lingering regrets about the piano, so I tried to live vicariously through him.
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But you can't force it. There's a limit to making him do it. Plus... When did you start swimming?
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I started swimming when I was five. Right, and he was actually showing a lot of promise in swimming.
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So I thought, "Piano is great, but let's support what he's good at." That's why he went all-in on swimming.
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He did play the cello instead, though. Oh? He was pretty good at it! Juggling piano, cello, and swimming was just too much for him.
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I told him to drop one, and he instantly dropped the piano. Back then, I think I just found the cello more fun than the piano.
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Wow... It must be in your blood. The funny thing is, he already regrets quitting the piano.
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It's not too late. Yeah, it's never too late. Right now, playing those single-melody instruments is a fundamental skill you need for arranging music.
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Ah, the nagging has started again... Just do whatever you want. I've been living away from my family for over 10 years, hoping he'd dream big in a wider world. But that was just my wish.
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He already had a strong desire to pursue music over there. He couldn't bring himself to tell me. Then he played me a demo, and I just couldn't tell him, "Forget this and go study." Once I heard his music,
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I realized he was destined for it. Having felt that, you're now telling him to go out and chase his dreams in the world.
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He just got incredibly lucky with that. Come on, luck alone doesn't get you there.
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Well... I'm just grateful. We really are grateful. You know how he always answers so calmly, like some enlightened monk?
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But he's also incredibly strict. He's the type of person who never tolerates a half-hearted approach to music.
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But I think that's something to learn from. To not just do it for show, but to truly agonize over it like you do.
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So I didn't expect you to go study abroad. Oh really? Yeah! I thought you'd just keep grinding and releasing albums here.
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What made you decide to study abroad? Jae Hyung went too. lol Ever since I was young, it was kind of a dream of mine. I always thought I had to go someday. But then I was about to marry Hye Jin.
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I felt like if we set up our home in Seoul, I'd never be able to study abroad.
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So I just decided that once we got married, we'd start our life in Boston.
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You ruled the school there, right? Berklee? No... Didn't you go on a full scholarship...?
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Ah... A sad story... What??? I almost couldn't go... I was originally supposed to go on a bass scholarship.
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But I had to audition again when I got there. And during that I actually failed it.
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- The scholarship audition? Not admissions? - Yeah exactly. The tuition there is so expensive.
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Yeah, it was expensive back then too. So I ended up getting an academic scholarship instead.
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In your first semester? They looked at my first-semester grades, and I got it from the second semester.
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It might have been a blessing in disguise. I originally went thinking, "I'll just take the classes I want." - With a light heart? - Yeah, but then they suddenly said "Let's talk about your scholarship again." So because of that
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my pride was hurt... - I bet it was. - It really was. It's a school that's easy to get into but hard to graduate from.
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That actually became a catalyst for me. And actually, while we were there... Is that when Chan Young was born?
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Yeah, after we went. How many years later was he born? A year later. That was fast.
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Were you studying or what...? I was farming! Farming kids! So anyway We can laugh about it now, but with tuition and living expenses it must have been a really tough time.
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I'll confess right now I only did it because I was a bit foolish. A planner with my financial situation would never have started that.
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You have to think 3 or 4 years ahead. - I'm the same way. - Right?
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- That's why you just went for it too. - Yeah... So then once our second child was born...
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It was a completely different story! So I thought, "This won't work. I need to go back to Korea and make some money first." It got to a point I couldn't handle.
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So you came back. Was Chan Young around 3 or 4 then? Five? Six? I was incredibly lucky because during my last semester at NYU, KBS offered me a radio show.
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And a university also offered me a visiting professor position. Wow, how did you... How could I have ever imagined living apart from your mom?
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We... We always said we couldn't stand "We can't live apart for even a second." But when those offers suddenly came in, - You know what your mom said? - What...?
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"Yeah~ Hurry up and go." - The radio show? - "Hurry up and secure your spot." Mom and I used to listen to it together.
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Oh, the radio show? It was night in the US, but he was doing the morning show.
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We used the KBS Kong app back then. So we'd listen to it through that You listened to his voice every day?
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We'd listen to it and fall asleep since it was night for us. That sounds like a movie...
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Do you know how pretty your mom was? She's still pretty now. You should tell her she's pretty more often.
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- I'd look like such a fool if I did. - You really never do.
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- Alright, before I serve the next dish... - Oh, really~? Yeah, the next one is...
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Will it suit the kid's taste? He called me a kid. lol I'm good with anything.
Speaker A
Honestly, Jae Hyung, I'm so glad he's not a picky eater. You're a picky eater too, right?
Speaker A
I am. lol I'm super picky. - Really? - Yeah! Sensitive and picky. Seriously. lol But he's really not. No one else in our family is like you.
Speaker A
If there's fish, he just puts it in his mouth without picking out the bones.
Speaker A
Oh~ Is it because he works out? Wow, he seemed like such an adult doing that.
Speaker A
How does that make him an adult? lol I guess the picky and sensitive ones are the real babies.
Speaker A
This is a traditional French countryside dish. But what's this called? Petit pois. "Petit" means small, right?
Speaker A
Right, pois means peas. Small peas? If my mom made vegetables like this I think I would've eaten them.
Speaker A
Kids usually hate vegetables. Right... But not these. But if I had tried those chives as a kid, imagine how good they'd be with rice.
Speaker A
Isn't this spinach? - Scallions... Chives! Chives! - No, they're chives. I told you earlier they're chives.
Speaker A
Chan Young!!! I guess I was nervous. lol Oh, they're scallions! You were born and your dad is Yoon Sang.
Speaker A
How was that? But I was in the US back then. How would he know I'm a singer?
Speaker A
He knew you were a singer. When did you find out he was a singer?
Speaker A
When did you realize he's a singer? Something like that. I guess I just naturally found out. When I was around four or five.
Speaker A
Chan Young, your personality is just like your dad's! "Oh, I guess I knew." lol - He is. - He talks just like Yoon Sang.
Speaker A
I had a studio when we lived in Boston, When I started living away from my family, maybe in 2011, when I had a concert with Kang Min and Byung Woo, he came to Korea and saw it.
Speaker A
That was probably your first time seeing my show. When I met IU? You mention IU before me...
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He was a huge fan of IU back then, For the first time in my life, I asked a junior, "Um... I'm sorry, but...
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could I get an autograph?" - Yoon Sang did! lol - And that was IU.
Speaker A
You gave her a song, right? Because we were close enough, I could ask her for that.
Speaker A
- Did he ask you to get her autograph? - Yeah. - Did I say that? I was too young. - Yeah.
Speaker A
I doubt he even knew what an autograph was... You liked her so much, so your dad just got it for you. lol Have you heard your dad's graduation album with your voice in it?
Speaker A
How did you feel back then? Were you feeling affectionate? Why include it? No, but seriously, if I say this, I'll sound like a fool, The babies' babbling was just so funny.
Speaker A
They were making sounds like 'waah'. It was before Chan Young started walking. I was working in the studio and sat him behind me, and he kept babbling.
Speaker A
with his pacifier in. lol He was doing this. I felt like I just had to record this.
Speaker A
So I took out my most expensive mic and recorded it for about 10 minutes.
Speaker A
I recorded it, and later when I had to do my graduation project, I thought, 'Let's do something with this.' Surprisingly, you felt Chan Young's cuteness through sound.
Speaker A
You could say that. Because you're so sensitive to that. The sounds kids make are just so cute.
Speaker A
Isn't it because it was Chan Young? My second son was super cute in his own way too.
Speaker A
Because he's the second! Because they're your kids! Sorry, I got cynical for a second.
Speaker A
Hey, pull yourself together. The crying sounds... The crying sounds can be really annoying, like when they keep crying at dawn.
Speaker A
When nothing you do soothes them. Wasn't he a gentle baby? Even gentle babies cry when they cry.
Speaker A
But really, every other sound they make is so cute... It seriously makes me cry.
Speaker A
Even listening to it now...! - You remembered that time? - It really reminded me of that time, And then you looked at your watch?!
Speaker A
Really? That time must have been special for you with Chan Young. When we were doing 'Our Ballad' back then, you were talking about Chan Young, and that was the first time I saw you cry.
Speaker A
But seeing you like that, I felt like Sang was showing feelings he hadn't shared with anyone. He usually expresses himself through music, so they don't really come out when he just talks.
Speaker A
- Is that so? - I think so. You're not the type to kindly explain things to him step-by-step, right?
Speaker A
- Absolutely not. - You're a bit blunt... Is Yoon Sang a bit blunt? How is he to you?
Speaker A
Even I think he's softened up a lot compared to the past. Was he a scarier dad in the past?
Speaker A
Right, in my memory too, he was a bit like that. He was blunt and didn't talk much.
Speaker A
Even when he did talk, it sometimes felt a bit cold. I felt the same way..!
Speaker A
I didn't really know if I was hurt by it. For me too, rather than feeling hurt, I just thought, 'That's just how my dad is.' You shouldn't take after him, okay?
Speaker A
Hehe But he cares so much about other things and is very sensitive. But then I had this thought too.
Speaker A
How could he write such songs if he wasn't sensitive? I'm just telling you this now, but...
Speaker A
I'm actually really sensitive too. Sensitive people are more comfortable that way. You know what else I thought about? Since Chan Young debuted.
Speaker A
When you first said you wanted to be a singer, how did he react? Before you showed your music.
Speaker A
I actually showed him my music before that. I naturally started around middle school. My dad would show me things too.
Speaker A
On an iPad back in the day, we used to play around together with a music app on there.
Speaker A
That's how I got interested. When I entered high school, I got a laptop, and my dad gifted me Logic.
Speaker A
He gifted you Logic? - You use Logic? - I do. Right, you gotta start with Logic.
Speaker A
Using Logic, I just naturally... You guided him so well, like it was a game.
Speaker A
But I gave him Logic... Logic is a music software! They all use computers in high school.
Speaker A
I shouldn't have installed Logic for him! He always does his homework at the table at home.
Speaker A
His mom is there, but when he's on his laptop, she has no idea what he's doing.
Speaker A
But sometimes I'd see that he wasn't doing homework. He had Logic open and was just pretending to work.
Speaker A
"Our oldest is playing with Logic because of you." "I think he's doing Logic more than studying." So I...
Speaker A
I really shouldn't have, but didn't I scold you a bit back then? Telling you to just focus on your homework?
Speaker A
Hmm, I don't even remember. Since everything worked out well, we can talk about it like this now.
Speaker A
The worried dad face is back. lol He must have been so worried back then.
Speaker A
Why were you so worried? Because he needed to study. I was struggling through undergrad again at 35, and you were at the perfect age to study, so you needed to focus.
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How old were you when you started your band? Me? Well... in my first year of high school.
Speaker A
He just wanted you to live a different life... And I didn't even expect him to be this serious about music.
Speaker A
Did you love it that much back then, Chan Young? How did it feel when you first started music?
Speaker A
We had a studio in the basement of our house in New Jersey. My dad often worked down there late into the night.
Speaker A
When he was working, I'd hear the sound echoing from below up on the first floor.
Speaker A
I used to press my ear against the floor. And even when my dad wasn't there, or when he was in Korea, I'd go down by myself to look around the empty studio.
Speaker A
You missed your dad, right? I missed my dad, No! He just wanted to touch the instruments.
Speaker A
Chan Young must have missed his dad so much back then. At what point did you think, just naturally, "Could I do music too?" When was that?
Speaker A
Was it because of swimming? Because of COVID? That period was kind of a catalyst in a way.
Speaker A
I think I always had the desire to keep doing music. Even before COVID hit.
Speaker A
When I thought about what I'd do for a living, my goal was to swim, go to school, and get into a good college, but I didn't know what I'd do after graduating.
Speaker A
Of course, not having a clear goal at that age is pretty common for most people, but I really had no idea.
Speaker A
Even though I was doing all this, and my parents worked hard to raise me in the US and send me to a good school, in the end, I think I still wanted to do something related to music.
Speaker A
Even if I wasn't a singer, I wanted to be a producer or do something with sound.
Speaker A
Then, as K-pop started getting bigger in the US, I saw that and I started thinking, "What if I became a singer too?" Then wasn't there something else too?
Speaker A
Like a family documentary with you? After that documentary came out, didn't his social media followers blow up?
Speaker A
That was when he was older. On Eana's Instagram...! - She and I had dinner together. - A picture, a picture.
Speaker A
Was he in his first year of high school then? Anyway, there was no talk of him being a singer or anything back then.
Speaker A
But she posted that picture, and he suddenly got like 10,000 followers in a day?
Speaker A
Did you think, "Oh, I should be an idol!"? Not really. IU lit the fire...!
Speaker A
And Eana fanned the flames...! People around you just recognized it first. But back then, I had never even heard him sing in my entire life.
Speaker A
I didn't sing either... Neither of you sang. You guys are exactly the same. lol I used to be really shy so I never really sang or danced.
Speaker A
But I think I just really wanted to do it back then. Now that you're doing what you wanted do you understand what your dad said? How do you feel now that time has passed?
Speaker A
Rather than realizing something new I feel like I understand him on a deeper level.
Speaker A
Now that I'm experiencing it myself things my dad used to say... But we talked a lot even before I started.
Speaker A
About his worries and all. What was his biggest worry? He was probably worried things would go wrong.
Speaker A
Not everyone can be an idol just by wanting to. - Because we know. - And since I had this fantasy about it and romanticized it so much "Reality is different from what you imagine." - I think he told me that a lot. - And dancing!
Speaker A
Being an idol and doing music are totally different. Of course I was worried when he said he'd be an idol.
Speaker A
The singing and dancing... Dancing was... my biggest worry. No one in our family can dance.
Speaker A
But you used to dance back in the day. - No, I didn't. - You did a little routine.
Speaker A
That wasn't even a routine. When I feel really proud of him is... At first, Chan Young was the youngest in the group and he was pretty shy so when he was on stage...
Speaker A
- I was nervous watching him too. - When he debuted? When he debuted! He did well, of course but his energy is so different now compared to back then.
Speaker A
Since Chan Young has already been active for three years now. But personally right at the tail end of his puberty...
Speaker A
my male menopause started... You went through male menopause? It hit me pretty hard... I'd get hot doing nothing, break into cold sweats and couldn't regulate my body temperature.
Speaker A
I could feel my body aging. You don't have that...? Like having hot feet when you sleep? lol - When your feet get hot after drinking? - My body just suddenly started having symptoms I'd never felt before.
Speaker A
Take care of your health... I know... I'm jealous. But right then, Chan Young and I lived together in the same house for a year.
Speaker A
Oh, right, right. I remember back then. And that was right after COVID hit so it was really...
Speaker A
- In that tiny house...! - Was it tense? Both of us were so...! On edge...!
Speaker A
When his practice wasn't going his way he'd get frustrated And I had my own issues...
Speaker A
What do I do with this kid? I think I saw you guys around then.
Speaker A
Of course, my son "Hey, don't talk... about Chan Young." - Right. - You said that.
Speaker A
"Ugh, don't talk about it." I just didn't know what to do. My son said he wanted to do it, so I had to understand - Rather than support, I had to understand him. - You had to.
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But living in the same house made it a whole different issue. His mom couldn't mediate for us since she was in the US.
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And if he stayed out late, there are so many temptations in Korea. So I worried if he might... you know.
Speaker A
But thankfully, he handled it all so much better than I expected. You partied way more than he did. lol I think that's true.
Speaker A
Right, but in a way, without his mom to mediate for you two clashing like that might have helped you understand each other on a deeper level.
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- Looking back? - Actually... I was around high school age back then and after growing up that much it was my first time spending time just the two of us.
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It was his first time. In his whole life! So I think that period was really important.
Speaker A
A year might seem short but I learned a lot more about my dad during that time.
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And it was my dad's first time too, in a way... Like it was his first time raising a kid?
Speaker A
So naturally, my dad's stress was at an all-time high...! But still, making music with him...!
Speaker A
Once I got in the zone, I tortured him just like I did to you guys.
Speaker A
Listen to this, then this, then this. But looking back, the things I learned because of you aren't things someone can just teach you.
Speaker A
But you and I worked on a song together. The song "Resignation." You played the bass, and I was like "Wow, just the bass alone can change the whole vibe of a song." Then you programmed the rhythm for me.
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I was watching you film from the side and decided I should film too after working with you.
Speaker A
I realized how fun this is. I should take a different approach too. Seeing you guys today I think you'll be great companions.
Speaker A
Thank you...! Later on, I think the two of you will have the deepest conversations.
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Understanding each other like that. Like you said earlier, even if we don't talk I always reach out when you make music.
Speaker A
I texted you saying your music for "Manager Kim" was good. You're the coolest when doing your main job.
Speaker A
That's a huge compliment. That's the highest praise - I've never gotten that from anyone else. - Come on.
Speaker A
But you know what? Getting compliments from friends is the absolute best...! Well, we're not exactly friends, more like...
Speaker A
Come on, at this point... We're growing old together. lol Right, you never know who'll go first now.
Speaker A
- There's no order to it. - Exactly. So doing a duet or something or collaborating on a song isn't easy, right?
Speaker A
Since he's under SM, there's a big barrier? Yeah definitely. - You need to infiltrate them. - Right, so I mean, first of all the company has its own direction.
Speaker A
And as time passes, I know the kids will have chances to do solo activities.
Speaker A
So when that time comes Chan Young and I can naturally figure out what we can do together.
Speaker A
That's how I feel about it. - You used to be an SM artist...! - That's right.
Speaker A
No perks for former employees? You'd think so, right? You're basically one of the founding seniors.
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True, in a way, of course... You're the one who made SM what it is today!
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So what I'm still grateful for is that after agreeing to release two albums I asked, "Can I go study abroad?" And they just said, "Yes, go ahead." The company trusted me completely so I was able to put a lot more effort into my music.
Speaker A
So with Chan Young, I naturally felt like it was a familiar company. Of course I felt that way.
Speaker A
You're a scary parent. The scariest kind of parent. You see right through them. They're all younger than you. The CEOs are younger than us too.
Speaker A
Oh... but still... I find them intimidating. Since you're entrusting your kid to them? I try my best to avoid the center directors.
Speaker A
The reason I look at you two with such warmth and envy is that you can share things you previously left unsaid.
Speaker A
It might not be easy right now, but You know what? Talking about dads brings up guilt about not communicating well.
Speaker A
"My dad was proud of me?" I didn't really know that. After a while, once he passed away, I started hearing that a lot more.
Speaker A
Guys aren't always the best at expressing things in words. Seeing you guys do it really touched my heart...!
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I've said this before when he was young, but I barely communicated with my dad either.
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- So I was a bit scared to become a dad. - I didn't know what to do.
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Can I be a good dad... What even is a good dad? I worried a lot, but he still grew up well.
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But that's only because things worked out. Looking at my second kid I wonder what to do with him...
Speaker A
Chan Young is right here, and you're worrying about Jun Young. Actually, when it comes to Jun Young Chan Young worries more than I do.
Speaker A
I was wondering if we can look forward to ANTON as a producer or composer in the future.
Speaker A
Say what you want to say... Uh... I think you can speak a little louder.
Speaker A
There goes the nagging again. Why are you mumbling? You're too quiet. So your dad nags you like this?
Speaker A
Since we're on a show together... lol Use both hands! Drink all of th... Wait, you aren't gonna drink it all, right?
Speaker A
He drinks way better than you now. lol Do you have any plans to be a producer or write songs for other people?
Speaker A
Actually, ever since I debuted my dad talked a lot about me continuing to do music and I think people know that too.
Speaker A
But I haven't had many chances to show that yet, so... But I told him not to rush it.
Speaker A
Since you chose to be an idol and that's your main job until you achieve something there shouldn't you put your ambition to create music on hold for a bit?
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That's what I tell him. But right now, while he's in RIIZE He's still holding onto something musically right now.
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I told him to take it slow... I tell him I like it. When he makes something and I say it's good, he still...!
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keeps playing me new versions. It gets confusing. - He's Yoon Sang 2.0. - It's frustrating.
Speaker A
You guys are exactly the same. Your personalities are identical. If it were me, I'd just be like, "Wow, it's done!" But that's also something you should do at this age.
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But my worry is... He has his schedule, but if he keeps at it... He was sick recently too.
Speaker A
He caught the flu. So as a dad, you get worried, right? Right. Not as a musician Right, as a dad.
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Because he got the flu, and if he comes home my wife could catch it too.
Speaker A
But hypothetically, who do you want to write a song for? Who do you want to give a song to?
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Honestly someday... A song for RIIZE...! A song for IU too? A song for IU too... lol And there's still so much I don't know about music.
Speaker A
So I definitely need time too. And honestly, my priority right now is my activities as a RIIZE member.
Speaker A
So I don't need to rush... Right. But I'm so jealous! And I think it became a huge driving force for you.
Speaker A
And Yoon Sang? I think you were a driving force for Chan Young. And having such a cool junior say nice things in front of my son today...
Speaker A
Doesn't this make me a good dad? You're letting yourself off easy! Dad's a bit easy.
Speaker A
This is... I've been curious about this...! What did you call this again... Dontokki? Tonteki...
Speaker A
Tonteki! Not Dontokki. lol It's not rabbit meat, right? - Rabbit is actually really good. - Really?
Speaker A
Oh, so it really is rabbit? - Rabbit? - Yeah. - I put in two for Chan Young just in case. - Thank you.
Speaker A
Thanks for the food. Have a taste! Are the cameras rolling right now? Chan Young, describe how it tastes.
Speaker A
- This is rab... - Rabbit! He says it's not rabbit. You said the name was Tokki something.
Speaker A
He said it's not. Tonteki~ If it's 'ton,' it must be pork. Right, right, it's pork!
Speaker A
Chan Young, I hope it suits your taste. I honestly eat everything well. He really eats everything well.
Speaker A
But it's not just pork, it's Duroc. How is it? Oh, this is crazy... It's so good!
Speaker A
Mmm. Do you want some kimchi? - I don't really need it. - Kimchi? It's from V's hometown, Geochang.
Speaker A
Ah...! I actually saw that episode! - V? - Yeah. Wow, I can't believe I get to try this...!
Speaker A
I've been saving it, but just for you... Dad, do you want more meat? No, I have high cholesterol these days so I'm only having this much meat.
Speaker A
You don't have to finish it. But you keep eating... Because it's good. lol I'm all done now.
Speaker A
Compared to the kimchi we usually know it has a very rustic taste. Oh, now I'm more curious.
Speaker A
You know what I mean? It's very coarse. V's grandmother...! Thanks for the food. It's been a while since I had kimchi like this.
Speaker A
Honestly, I think this is the best kimchi I've ever had...! Really? This? I don't think I've ever had this taste before.
Speaker A
I think you could say that. It's different from store-bought kimchi. But for me, You haven't tried North Korean kimchi.
Speaker A
You were the music director in Pyongyang. How was it? What was good? I was so tired I didn't even eat cold noodles.
Speaker A
...Why were you tired? Who made you tired? - I wasn't feeling well. - He wasn't feeling well.
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- But like this kimchi... - Oh, this is really good...! Pyongyang kimchi is unlike what we're used to.
Speaker A
I'm even thinking of asking Tae Hyung for some of this kimchi. Ah, it's so refreshing.
Speaker A
It's really good. It doesn't taste artificial at all! It's so good... Just the kimchi... lol He's eating it well too.
Speaker A
I was surprised he said it's the best he's ever had. Are you just saying that because it's V's?
Speaker A
What does that have to do with him? It's really good. Anyway, it was so nice seeing you today!
Speaker A
That's what I should be saying. Thanks to this, we can always look back on it later.
Speaker A
Thank you so much. Keep it up, Chan Young! Do whatever you want to do!
Speaker A
Okay. Anyway, thanks for the great dinner. - The food was amazing. - Thanks for the food.
Speaker A
If we get the chance next time I'll treat you to something good... Dad should cook sometime.
Speaker A
Compared to your uncle here, my cooking is... Oh, it never ends. Just wrap it up.
Speaker A
Great job, everyone. Thank you. - Thank you. - Great job, everyone. Like "Youth Over Flowers," I'll take you seniors on a 60th birthday trip.
Speaker A
- You guys should go. - You have to be our bag boy. Chan Young, what do you think of this?
Speaker A
He was looking at this earlier. I didn't even see it, but he said it looks really cool.
Speaker A
Just leave now... lol - It was fun. - Yeah, thanks for coming. No, it was great.
Speaker A
Thanks for the food. What's wrong with the right side? Oh, this? lol Goodbye. Please edit it well. It comes out in May, right?
Speaker A
Goodbye! Oh? You looked like an idol just now, Chan Young. Do that thing! Do the heart thing!
Speaker A
It was so nice... I got a little choked up. Did you see them taking care of each other?
Speaker A
Ha, it was so cool... How was it? It was really fun... - No, not fun. - It was heartwarming...
Speaker A
Not heartwarming. - ...Cut the camera. - Okay... I won't use this part.
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