It Doesn’t Take Money To Make Money | Brandon Leibel | … — Transcript

Brandon Leibel shares how starting a business without money fueled creativity, resourcefulness, and success through social media and persistence.

Key Takeaways

  • Money is not a prerequisite for starting a successful business; creativity and determination matter more.
  • Direct personal engagement and grassroots marketing can effectively build a brand without paid ads.
  • Self-education through free online resources is a powerful tool for overcoming skill gaps.
  • Reinventing traditional business roles like PR can save costs and yield authentic results.
  • Persistence and seizing unexpected opportunities are crucial for startup success.

Summary

  • Brandon challenges the saying 'it takes money to make money' by sharing his startup journey without initial capital.
  • He emphasizes that drive, determination, and passion are more critical than money in building a business.
  • After graduating with debt, Brandon left a traditional job to start a business with two friends focused on better beach towels.
  • Lacking funds, they used creativity: living frugally, selling belongings, using credit cards, and working Uber to support themselves.
  • They built their brand by personally engaging with people on San Diego beaches to grow their Instagram following.
  • Bruno self-taught website development using free online resources to create their first website.
  • They became social media marketing experts by learning from YouTube videos and direct messaging thousands to grow followers.
  • Without a PR budget, they reinvented PR by researching and pitching media themselves, gaining significant press coverage.
  • Persistence led to a breakthrough when an Uber passenger who was a reporter featured them on local TV.
  • The story highlights how resourcefulness and hustle can substitute for money in early-stage entrepreneurship.

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[Music] Raise your hand if you've heard the saying that it takes money to make money. Yep, so I thought I'm here today to prove that in 2018 this saying is completely a lot of. I believe that not having money to start a business could potentially be the greatest thing for your business. It'll take you places you've never been, and it will force you to do things that you've never even imagined. A lot of people think that us being on Shark Tank, raising money, getting a deal with Robert Herjavec is why we became successful, and that couldn't be further from the truth. The truth is that in the three years leading up to Shark Tank, that is what actually made us successful. It's the things in those three years that money cannot buy: the drive, the determination, and the passion. When I was a student at SDSU, I thought the complete opposite. I thought you needed money, you needed a rich dad, rich mom, rich grandparent to lend you money in order to start a business. I didn't think that there was any possible way to do it without it. I was about to graduate with $30,000 of student debt. How the hell can I possibly start a business? So I took the traditional route, got a safe job at a big insurance company in San Diego in a cubicle. It sucked. After 11 months, the millennial in me decided that this is not going to last and this is not acceptable. So I came together with my two best friends and co-founders, Stephen and Bruno, and we decided that we need to get out of here and bring the world something that they really, really need: better beach towels. This was our billion-dollar idea. So we quit the next day. We're out. We call our parents, tell them what we did, and they're so happy. They're like, "Good for you guys! You guys are the best! Go for it!" I'm just kidding. They thought we were complete morons, and they were very confused on how we're gonna pay for this. They knew we were broke, but we didn't care. We went out to celebrate. We were so high on life. We were so excited for this next chapter. But the next day, reality struck when we woke up and we realized that our parents are probably right. We don't have any money. How are we gonna pay for this? But that's where the magic started. Instead of focusing on the fact that we didn't have money, we took it as an opportunity to channel our inner creativity and resourcefulness. But resourcefulness doesn't pay rent. I wish it could. So we decided to move into a two-bedroom apartment. Bruno's gonna sleep in the loft on the floor. We're gonna cook beans and rice every day, cash out our 401ks that had nothing in it. We're gonna sell our—we're gonna sell everything in our apartment. We're gonna take out five credit cards each. We're gonna mean Steven are going to become Uber drivers to pay the bills. Bruno is gonna cash out his Apple stock to pay for our first batch of towels. Boom, we have a company. We know that social media is where we had to be in order to build a millennial-driven brand. There was no other way, and none of us knew anything about social media. I don't think Snapchat was even around at this point, so we didn't have money to pay someone to teach us. No one, no marketing agency, no expert. We had to do it ourselves. So we decided to walk the beaches of San Diego for three months every single day, approached every single person on the sand, have them take out their cell phone and add us on Instagram on the spot. We did this for six hours a day for three months, and we got our first thousand followers. With this approach, we realized that money can buy followers, it could buy likes, they can even buy comments on your pictures, but it can't buy a first impression. And this strategy is what built the bedrock and foundation of our brand. So now we have a few followers, we have some momentum, we have product, but we don't have a website, and none of us know anything about building a website. I don't think I even had a computer at this time. So Bruno became our in-house website developer. He was the cheapest person we could find. He cost the euro dollars. So he locked himself in the loft for three weeks and literally taught himself how to build a website through YouTube videos, calling his friends and family that were experts, utilizing the Internet, utilizing resources, reading blogs, doing whatever it took. And he finally, one day, comes downstairs, hadn't shaved in a few weeks, and he presents this website to me and Stephen, and it was complete. I think even he would admit that the pictures were blurry, the product descriptions had typos, the layout was horrible, but me and Stephen were ecstatic because we had a website. So we have a website. What do we do now? We have a thousand followers, and we know that we have to grow our followers because eventually these people are gonna turn into money, they're eventually gonna turn into sales. But we knew that walking the beach every single day was just not sustainable. It's not possible. It's not gonna work. It's not gonna happen fast enough. I've got to figure something else out. So we became social media experts ourselves. Back to YouTube we go. We watch every video on social media marketing strategies, hacks, how to reach out to people, when to post, what to post, how to post, what's a hashtag. We did it all. We literally watched every single video. We would stay up for nights direct messaging thousands and thousands of people on Instagram, telling them about our company, shameless promotion. We didn't care because in that month we went from 1,000 to 10,000 followers on Instagram, and we did it for $0. So now we have 10,000 followers, feeling better. We've probably made three sales on our website, probably from our moms, and we're still broke. But we know that there's something here. There's something with getting people's attention, getting eyeballs, getting followers, getting impressions, getting them to read about us, to learn about us, understand why we're doing what we're doing. So the idea of a PR agency comes up, but we can't afford one. They're freaking expensive. So we decided to reinvent what a PR agency means in a digital world. YouTube, what else do we need? We learned how to become our own PR agency through the tools that are out there that are accessible to everybody. We learned who to contact, what subject lines to use, when to email them, when they're back on vacation, who their boss is, who their boss's boss is, how to reach out to them. And before you know it, we're featured in over a hundred blogs, a bunch of magazines, newspapers, podcasts, influencers. We even get picked up by The Huffington Post at some point, and I don't think we even had more than $100 of sales. I guarantee without a PR agency, we wouldn't have gotten us one third of that press. They couldn't match the level of urgency and passion and just desperation that we had at that point. We were sick of eating rice and beans. So where do we go now? We're featured in press, we're still driving Uber trying to pay the bills, we're still hacking Instagram, reaching out to people. And one day, I'm sitting in my office, which is our kitchen, and I get an alert from Uber that someone needs a ride, and I'm like, yeah, I need to make some money. I accept the ride. Someone's around the corner. I go pick them up. It's a young couple, guy and a girl. The girl gets in my car, guy gets in the back. We start small talking as usual. I try to sell him a towel. They don't want it, but they're like, alright, this guy's doing something, he's got a company. And then I find out that she is a reporter for Channel Six, and I'm like, hell yeah, jackpot. She's not leaving this car until she gives me her phone number. So I take a few wrong turns, missed the exit, finally get to their destination. I've built enough rapport at this time where she just hands me her business card. She says, email me. I email her the next night. The following week she's in our apartment with a full camera crew. The following night we're on Channel 6, and that night we make eight, eight sales online. And then we went out for tacos. In my opinion, money cannot buy these experiences. They cannot buy the resources that are out there that are free fo—
00:28
Speaker A
money to sort a business could potentially be the greatest thing for your business it'll take you places you've never been and it will force you to do things that you've never even imagined a lot of people think that us
00:40
Speaker A
being on Shark Tank raising money getting a deal Robert Herjavec is why we became successful and that couldn't be further from the truth the truth is is that in the three years leading up to shark tank that is what actually made us
00:56
Speaker A
successful it's the things in those three years that money cannot buy the drive the determination and the passion when I was a student at SDSU I thought the complete opposite I thought you needed money you needed a rich dad rich
01:16
Speaker A
mom rich grandparent to lend you money in order to start a business I didn't think that there was any possible way to do without it I was about to graduate with $30,000 of student debt how the hell can I possibly start a business so
01:33
Speaker A
I took the traditional route got a safe job at a big insurance company in San Diego in a cubicle it sucked after 11 months the millennial and me decided that this is not going to last and this is not acceptable so came together with
01:56
Speaker A
my two best friends and co-founders Stephen and Bruno and we decided that we need to get out of here and bring the world something that they really really need better beach towels this was our billion dollar idea so we quit the next day we're out we
02:19
Speaker A
call our parents tell them what we did and they're so happy they're like good for you guys you guys are the best go for it I'm just kidding they thought we were complete morons and they were very confused on how we're gonna pay for this
02:36
Speaker A
they knew we were broke but we didn't care we went out to celebrate we were so high on life we were so excited for this next chapter but the next day reality struck when we woke up and we realized
02:51
Speaker A
that our parents are probably right we don't have any money how are we gonna pay for this but that's where the magic started instead of focusing on this the fact that we didn't have money we took it as an opportunity to channel our
03:05
Speaker A
inner creativity and resourcefulness but resourcefulness doesn't pay rent I wish it could so we decided to move into a two-bedroom apartment Bruno's gonna sleep in the loft on the floor we're gonna cook beans and rice every day cash out our 401ks that had nothing
03:28
Speaker A
in it we're gonna sell our we're gonna sell everything in our apartment we're gonna take out five credit cards each we're gonna mean Steven are going to become a bird drivers to pay the bills Bruno is gonna cash out his Apple stock
03:44
Speaker A
to pay for our first batch of towels boom we have a company we know that social media is where we had to be in order to build a millennial driven brand there was no other way and none of us
03:58
Speaker A
knew anything about social media I don't think snapchat was even around at this point so we didn't have money to pay someone to teach us no one no marketing agency no expert we had to do it ourselves so we decided
04:13
Speaker A
to walk the beaches of San Diego for three months every single day approached every single person on the sand have them take out their cell phone and add us on Instagram on the spot we did this for six hours a day for three
04:30
Speaker A
months and we got our first thousand followers with this approach we realized that money can buy followers it could buy likes they can even buy comments on your pictures but it can't buy a first impression and this strategy is what
04:45
Speaker A
built the bedrock and foundation of our brand so now we have a few followers we have some momentum we have product but we don't have a website and none of us know anything about building a website I don't think I even had a computer at
05:00
Speaker A
this time so Bruno became our in-house website developer he was a cheapest person we could find he cost the euro dollars so he locked himself in the loft for three weeks and literally taught himself how to build a website through
05:19
Speaker A
YouTube videos calling his friends and family that were experts utilizing the Internet utilizing resources reading blogs doing whatever it took and he finally one day comes downstairs hadn't shaved in a few weeks and he presents this website to me and Stephen and it
05:38
Speaker A
was complete I think even he would admit that the pictures were blurry the product descriptions had typos the layout was horrible but me and Stephen were ecstatic because we had a website so we have a website what do we do now
06:01
Speaker A
we have a thousand followers and we and we know that we have to grow our followers because eventually these people are gonna turn into money they're eventually gonna turn into sales but we knew that walking the beach every single
06:15
Speaker A
day was just not sustainable it's not possible it's not gonna work it's not gonna happen fast enough I've got to figure something else out so we became social media experts ourselves back to YouTube we go we watch every video on
06:31
Speaker A
social media marketing strategies haxe how to reach out to people when to post what to post how to post what's a hashtag we did it all we literally watched every single video we would stay up for nights direct messaging thousands
06:49
Speaker A
and thousands of people on Instagram telling them about our company shameless promotion we didn't care because in that month we went from 1,000 to 10,000 followers on Instagram and we did it for $0 so now we have 10,000 followers
07:09
Speaker A
feeling better we've probably made three sales on our website probably from our moms and we're still broke but we know that there's something here there's something with getting people's attention getting eyeballs getting followers getting impressions getting them to read about us to learn
07:33
Speaker A
about us understand why we're doing what we're doing so the idea of a PR agency comes up but we can't afford one they're freaking expensive so we decided to reinvent what a PR agency means in a digital world
07:51
Speaker A
YouTube what else do we need we learned how to become our own PR agency through the tools that are out there that are accessible to everybody we learned who to contact what subject lines to use when to email them when they're back on
08:10
Speaker A
vacation who their boss is who their bosses bosses how to reach out to them and before you know it we're featured in over a hundred blogs a bunch of magazines newspapers podcasts influencers we even get picked up by The
08:27
Speaker A
Huffington Post at some point and I don't think we even had more than $100 of sales I guarantee without a PR agency wouldn't have gotten us one third of that press they couldn't match the level of urgency and passion and just desperation
08:43
Speaker A
that we had at that point we were sick of eating rice and beans so where do we go now we're featured in and press we're still driving uber trying to pay the bills we're still hacking Instagram reaching out to people
09:02
Speaker A
and one day I'm sitting in my office which is our kitchen and I get it alert from uber that someone needs a ride and I'm like yeah I need I need to make some money except the ride someone around the
09:20
Speaker A
corner I go pick them up it's a young couple guy and a girl girl gets in my car guy gets in the back we start small talking as usual I try to sell him a towel they don't want it but they're
09:36
Speaker A
like alright this guy's doing something he's got a company and then I find out that she is a reporter for Channel six and I'm like hell yeah jackpot she's not leaving this car until she gives me her phone number so I take a few wrong turns
09:58
Speaker A
missed the exit finally get to their destination I've built enough rapport at this time where she just hands me her business card she says email me I email her the next night following week she's in our apartment with a full camera crew
10:14
Speaker A
the following night were on channel 6 and that night we make eight eight sales online and then we went out for tacos in my opinion money cannot buy these experiences they cannot buy the resources that are out there that are
10:37
Speaker A
free for all of us when you don't have money you're forced to take matters into your own hands and make every single opportunity yours that uber experience is an example of how you can seize any single moment and make it an opportunity
10:54
Speaker A
I normally wouldn't have spoken to her I would have just been driving along just playing music trying to get there get back stressed out but because we were desperate we had to do it ourselves it forces you to do things that you'd never
11:08
Speaker A
ordinarily do so let's fast forward to today we have five hundred and forty thousand followers on Instagram we got a deal on shark tank with Robert Herjavec we have done millions of dollars in sales in revenue not profit and we've
11:34
Speaker A
donated fifty thousand dollars to various nonprofits which we're really happy about and we don't know what the future holds because Brad's come and go every day but what we do know is that the ideas and the strategies and the
11:50
Speaker A
hustle and the blood sweat and tears that got us to where we are now will never stop and that's something that money cannot buy so the next time that someone tells you it takes money to make money tell them that your lack of money is
12:09
Speaker A
going to finance your resourcefulness and make you successful thank you you
Topics:entrepreneurshipstartupno money startupsocial media marketingresourcefulnesssmall businessbrandingPR strategiesself educationhustle

Frequently Asked Questions

How did Brandon Leibel and his co-founders start their business without money?

They lived frugally, sold belongings, used credit cards, worked Uber to pay bills, and leveraged free online resources to build their website and social media presence.

What role did social media play in their business growth?

They personally engaged with people on beaches to grow Instagram followers, learned social media marketing from YouTube, and used direct messaging to increase their audience without spending money.

How did they manage public relations without a PR agency?

They researched media contacts, crafted targeted pitches, and reached out themselves, which resulted in coverage by over 100 blogs, magazines, and even The Huffington Post.

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