Does Victorinox Have A Big Problem With The Venture? — Transcript

A detailed review of the Victorinox Venture fixed blade, comparing it to the Mora Garberg and highlighting its unique features and potential flaws.

Key Takeaways

  • Victorinox Venture offers innovative features not found on the Mora Garberg, such as the hex lanyard hole and exposed tang.
  • Its lightweight design and full flat grind blade make it excellent for food prep and slicing tasks.
  • The handle design provides good ergonomics and safety with a larger guard than the Garberg.
  • There is a notable potential flaw in the blade that may affect its overall performance.
  • Victorinox is transparent about steel type and hardness, unlike Mora’s recent vague claims.

Summary

  • Victorinox released the Venture fixed blade series to compete with the Mora Garberg in bushcraft and outdoor utility.
  • The Venture features a Sandvik 14C28N steel blade with a full flat grind and a spear point design, ideal for slicing and food prep.
  • Unique design elements include a hex-shaped lanyard hole for quarter-inch pallet bits and a sharp exposed tang for spoon carving and spark striking.
  • The handle is polymer over full tang with ergonomic contouring, a large guard, and textured grip, available in multiple colors.
  • The knife is lightweight at 4.1 ounces, significantly lighter than the Mora Garberg, making it more nimble and quick.
  • There is a Pro version with additional features like a bow drill divot and enhanced sheath, which adds weight.
  • The reviewer appreciates the full flat grind for food prep and slicing, outperforming the Mora Garberg in these tasks.
  • A potential fatal flaw in the blade was discovered, which will be further discussed in the video.
  • Victorinox’s steel specification and Rockwell hardness are clearly stated, contrasting with Mora’s vague steel descriptions.
  • The video includes a sponsor segment promoting LA Police Gear and their selection of Danner boots.

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00:00
Speaker A
So, you know you're beloved Mora Garberg. Well, it's time to dump that old tired blade for a better alternative. At least, that's what Victorinox would like us to do with their recent release of the Venture fixed blade series. This Sandvik 14C 28N Swiss-made knife was clearly created to take a big chunk out of the kingdom of bushcraft that the Mora Garberg has been reigning in for many years now. The Venture is attempting to do that with different design characteristics and features so that it's not just another Garberg clone. But there are definitely a few stumbling blocks that this knife is going to have to overcome if it's going to usurp the role that the Mora Garberg has in many of our rotations when we go on our outdoor adventures or just utility around our property. And so, I can't wait to unpack all the capabilities and limitations of this tool with you. Thanks for joining me today. I'm Aaron. This is Gideon's Tactical. And as we dive right in, I want to point out this first characteristic that's very rare on most knives. It's back here by the full tang. It goes all the way through the polymer handle and comes out the back. This lanyard hole is cut out in a hex formation to be able to handle most quarter-inch pallet bits so that you can then bore out a hole for different bushcrafts that you may be doing. I tested it out on about a half-inch, maybe it was three-quarter-inch thick piece of wood. Took me a few minutes for sure. So, I mean, it's to do in a pinch. If you want to lighten your load, a two-handed auger would obviously be way better if you're doing several of these, but one or two that you need to do, it is absolutely doable and gives an extra layer of capability for those of you who really like to build and craft on your adventures in the bush. Now, on top of that, it's got a nice sharp edge all the way back there on that exposed tang portion that can not only throw sparks if you want to, but is actually designed to help easily cut out the bowl of a spoon. So, if you like doing spoon carving, this will actually speed up that process because that's one of the trickiest parts, is, you know, cutting into that bowl. Now, as I was doing it, it can definitely do it. You'll be there a while before you get through, at least with a piece of wood I was using. But I remembered, well, the Mora Garberg has that as well. It's got a razor-sharp, you know, striker portion back there so you can throw sparks. Now, it's wider and more recessed, so you're not going to get as deep with it, but in a pinch, you could do it with the Mora Garberg as well. But the Swiss Army Venture is definitely designed to do that, so that's a cool two, you know, double feature that this knife has that a lot of other designs don't offer. And since we're on the back end, let's hit this handle real quick, which is a polymer over that full tang construction. And you're going to get really nice contouring. It's about 4.75 inches overall handle length, good kind of swell in the middle, a little bit of tapering near the front and back. The texturing is pretty cool. It is the Victorinox-like logo, and it says Victorinox all over the place. Little ribs up top and down below. No hot spots anywhere on this. I mean, it's definitely designed to grip in any reverse angle, whatever you would want. Fills out my large size hands very nicely, even with gloves on. I'll have plenty of real estate. A little bit of a guard there, actually pretty good-sized guard, in fact, a lot more than what you're going to get on a Garberg. So, if you like having a deeper guard and just more control in that way, a little bit more safety, if you will, this will have that. Nice scalloping on either side there so you can do pinch pulls, you know, guide the blade if you're doing draw cuts, things like that. And then you can get it in this OD green, almost like a natural green. It's not really OD green, and then you can get red, you know, stereotypical of Victorinox, and then black as well. And I would argue this is an ultra-light knife being over four inches in blade length but coming in at 4.1 ounces for the knife itself and about five and a half if I remember correctly with the sheath. That means that's a third less in weight than the Mora Garberg, which is going to be six ounces for the knife itself and then I think seven and a half or even eight with the base model polymer sheath. Now, there's a pro version that comes with a bow drill divot hole and a few extra features in the sheath that we'll talk about a little bit later. This model does not have that. It will be a little bit heavier because of that material in the handle for the pro series. But when you hold the standard Venture versus the Garberg, you can definitely tell that the Venture is lighter, quicker, and more nimble, whereas the Garberg is definitely a little bit denser, feels a little bit heavier, and a little bit more robust. And that robustness is going to play into the blade performance where I have discovered that there's a potential fatal flaw in the blade on the Venture, and we're going to unpack what that looks like and whether or not we can overcome it and overlook it or not. But before we do that, I want to give a quick shout out to today's sponsor, which is LA Police Gear. Now, they've been giving us access to tons of excellent brands for over 20 years, but you may not be aware that they are a direct supplier of Danner boots and footwear, and they've recently gotten a large influx of styles and designs for both men and women. And so, I recently picked up a pair of their Free Spirit Monks Robe hiking boots, and my wife scored a pair of their Inquire Chukka boots, and they have been our constant companions as we've been exploring the Rocky Mountains this fall. And with plenty of designs to choose from, from their trail runners to more casual design hiking boots and hunting boots, you'll be able to find the right style for your next adventure. So, guys, I'll have a link in the description below this video over to the LA Police Gear website as well as my exclusive 10% off promo code that you can apply site-wide to all types of different gear and equipment. So, I invite you to click that link, hop on over, and check out all they have to offer. Now, let's set all the highs before that one low with this blade profile. Now, at 4.3 inches overall blade length into a spear point design with a full flat grind with Sandvik 14C20 and Rockwell 59, which is really nice. That's actually on the blade versus what Mora has been doing lately, which is really annoying, which just says recycled stainless steel across the website, across all their blades. It's fine to say that, but like, tell us what type of steel first. Say Sandvik 14C 28N, recycled stainless steel, and give us the Rockwell. Say 12C 27, Sandvik, recycled stainless steel, and then give us the Bro. You know, it's just, it feels like they're kind of hiding the ball. It's really annoying. So, anyway, the blade, what makes me and probably a lot of you gravitate to it is because it's a full flat. We have so many skinny grinds on the market. I love scandies; they're great, but there is an extra level of utility that full flat grinds can sometimes give us. And this offers a very classic profile in that mainly, and where you're going to see this really excel is in slicing, meaning like food prep. This is an excellent food prep knife. It's a great steak knife to have just on your body all the time or when you're camping, you know, out in the wilderness doing your bushcrafting, whatever it is. This is superb for that. And, you know, meat processing and really particularly like harder fruits and vegetables. That's where a flat full flat will definitely outperform a scandi. That Mora is not fun to use doing food prep. I don't enjoy using it. I way prefer this blade, and it will excel in that. And then just general slicing, like if you're doing a lot of cardboard, man-made material, doing those types of activities, this edge geometry, because the blade is only 0.13 on the thickness, an eighth of an inch thick, um, just to hair over Nathan and she—
00:19
Speaker A
Swiss made knife was clearly created to take a big chunk out of the kingdom of Bushcraft that the more a garberg has been reigning in for many years now and the Venture is attempting to do that with different design characteristics
00:35
Speaker A
and features so that it's not just another garbered clone but there are definitely a few stumbling blocks that this knife is going to have to overcome if it's going to usurp the role that the Mora Garber has in many of ours rotation
00:47
Speaker A
when we go on our Outdoor Adventures or just utility around our property and so I can't wait to unpack all the capabilities and limitations of this tool with you thanks for joining me today I'm Aaron this is Gideon's
00:58
Speaker A
tactical and as we Dive Right In I want to point out this first characteristic that's very rare on most knives it's back here by the Full Tang it goes all the way through the polymer handle comes out the back this lanyard hole is cut
01:14
Speaker A
out in a hex formation to be able to handle most quarter inch pallet bits so that you can then bore out a hole for different Bush crafts that you may be doing I tested out on about a half inch
01:26
Speaker A
maybe it was three quarter inch thick piece of wood took me a few minutes for sure so I mean it's to do in a pinch if you want to lighten your load a two-handed auger would obviously be way
01:35
Speaker A
better if you're doing several of these but one or two that you need to do it is absolutely doable and gives an extra layer of capability for those of you who really like to build and craft on your
01:46
Speaker A
adventures in the bush now on top of that it's got a nice sharp edge all the way back there on that exposed Tang portion that can not only throw Sparks if you want to but is actually designed to help easily cut out the bowl of a
02:01
Speaker A
spoon so if you like doing spoon carving this will actually speed up that process because that's one of the trickiest parts is you know cutting into that bowl now as I was doing it it can definitely do it you'll be there a while before you
02:13
Speaker A
get through at least with a piece of wood I was using but I remembered well the more a garberg has that as well it's got a razor sharp you know Striker portion back there so you can throw Sparks now it's wider and not and more
02:24
Speaker A
recessed so you're not going to get as deep with it but in a pinch you could do it with the more garberg as well but the Swiss Army Venture is definitely designed to do that so that's a cool two
02:37
Speaker A
you know double feature that this knife has that a lot of other designs don't offer and since we're on the back end let's hit this handle real quick which is a polymer over that fulltane construction and you're going to get
02:50
Speaker A
really nice contouring it's about 4.75 inches overall handle length good kind of swell in the middle a little bit of tapering near the front and back the texturing is pretty cool it is the Victoria Knox like logo and it says
03:03
Speaker A
Victorinox all over the place little ribs up top and down below no hot spots anywhere on this I mean it's definitely designed to grip in any reverse angle whatever you would want fills out my large size hands very nicely even with
03:16
Speaker A
gloves on I'll have plenty of real estate a little bit of a guard there actually pretty good sized guard in fact a lot more than what you're going to get on a garberg so if you like having a deeper
03:27
Speaker A
guard and just more control in that way a little bit more safety if you will this will have that nice scalloping on either side there so you can do pinch pulls you know guide the blade if you're doing draw Cuts things like that and
03:40
Speaker A
then you can get it in this OD Green almost like a natural green it's not really OD green and then you can get red you know stereotypical of Victorinox and then black as well and I would argue this is an ultra light knife being over
03:51
Speaker A
four inches in blade length but coming in at 4.1 ounces for the knife itself and about five and a half if I remember correctly with the sheath that means that's a third Less in weight than the more a Garber which is going to be six
04:04
Speaker A
ounces for the knife itself and then I think seven and a half or even eight with the base model polymer sheath now there's a pro version that comes with a bow drill divot hole and a few extra features in the sheath that we'll talk
04:15
Speaker A
about a little bit later this model does not have that it will be a little bit heavier because of that material in the handle for the Pro Series but when you hold the standard venture versus the Garber you can definitely tell that the
04:26
Speaker A
Venture is lighter quicker and more Nimble whereas the garberg is definitely a little bit denser feels a little bit heavier and a little bit more robust and that robustness is going to play into the blade performance where I have
04:37
Speaker A
discovered that there's a potential fatal flaw in the blade on the Venture and we're gonna unpack what that looks like and whether or not we can overcome it and Overlook it or not but before we do that I want to give a quick shout out
04:50
Speaker A
to today's sponsor which is LA Police Gear now they've been giving us access to tons of excellent brands for over 20 years but you may not be aware that they are a direct supplier of Danner boots and Footwear and they've recently gotten
05:02
Speaker A
a large influx of styles and designs for both men and women and so I recently picked up a pair of their free spirit monks robe hiking boots and my wife scored a pair of their inquire Chukka Boots and they have been our constant
05:16
Speaker A
companions as we've been exploring the Rocky Mountains this fall and with plenty of designs to choose from from their Trail Runners to more casual design designs hiking boots and hunting boots you'll be able to find the right style for your next adventure so guys
05:30
Speaker A
I'll have a link in the description below this video over to the LA Police Gear website as well as my exclusive 10 off promo code that you can apply site-wide to all types of different gear and equipment so I invite you to click
05:41
Speaker A
that link hop on over and check out all they have to offer now let's set all the highs before that one low with this blade profile now at 4.3 inches overall blade length into a spear Point design with a full flat grind with Sandvik
05:56
Speaker A
14c20 and rock weld 59 which is really nice that's actually on the blade versus what more has been doing lately which is really annoying which just says recycled stainless steel across the website across all their blades it's fine to say
06:09
Speaker A
that but like tell us what type of Steel first say sandbox Sandvik 14c 28n recycle stainless steel and give us the Rockwell say 12C 27 Sandvik recycle stainless steel and then give us the bro you know it's just it feels like they're
06:22
Speaker A
kind of hiding the ball it's really annoying so anyway the the blade what what makes me and probably a lot of you gravitate to it is because it's a full flat we have so many skinny grinds on the market I love scandies they're great
06:35
Speaker A
but there is a extra level of utility that full flat grinds can sometimes give us and this offers a very classic profile in that mainly and where you're going to see this really Excel is in uh slicing meaning like food prep this is
06:53
Speaker A
an excellent food prep knife it's a great like steak knife to have just on your body all the time or when you're camping you know out in the wilderness doing your bushcrafting whatever it is this is superb for that and you know
07:05
Speaker A
meat processing and really particularly like harder fruits and vegetables that's where a flat full flat will definitely outperform a scandi that Mora is not fun to use doing food prep I don't enjoy using it I way prefer this blade and it
07:20
Speaker A
will excel in that and then just general slicing like if you're doing a lot of like cardboard man-made material doing those type of activities this edge geometry because the blade is only 0.13 on the thickness an eighth of an inch
07:33
Speaker A
thick um just to hair over Nathan and she's like means that it's going to be extremely slicey very easy to do fine work even out in the woods doing your feather sticks it's really easy to get those like hair thin curls to help you
07:48
Speaker A
start a fire to manipulate to cut out something really easily and be I really enjoy Sandvik 14c 28n it's extremely durable in its like lateral strength I mean I was cranking on this thing you can see the flex that
08:02
Speaker A
this went through uh the tip is fine so it's going to be good for precision the Mora is definitely going to have a thicker more robust tip so if you're pretty hard on your tip or you do a lot
08:12
Speaker A
of things with your tip of your knife the more is definitely going to outperform that but this held up relatively well for the stabbing and just lateral testing that I was doing I was pleased that I was able to hold up
08:23
Speaker A
to that and then the harder task now in theory the Sandvik steel should be able to handle a lot of toughness a lot of durability and even though it's an eighth of an inch thick in full flat I
08:34
Speaker A
have plenty of eighth of an inch full flat grinds that really perform well the catastrophic issue that I have now seen not only on my model but I watched another YouTube video and they had an even worse damage going through wood
08:46
Speaker A
when they batoned is I have discovered that I have a probably about the thickness of my thumb Edge wave that has occurred and I have not purposely tried to damage this in any way and I'm going to try to
09:01
Speaker A
have it show up there you go you can see it right here where the there's like this bubble that it looks like right there and it's minute but when you look down the edge you can see the blade go
09:13
Speaker A
where it went through something and I'm batoning white wood here in the Rocky Mountains we have mostly like Pine Aspen uh we definitely don't have like hardly any Hickory or other types of really hard dense wood so this is soft wood
09:26
Speaker A
that you're seeing in the batoning testing I don't know quite when it happened it was before I did any of the lateral like bending so it happened in some course of events with batoning and I did not overextend this blade in any
09:39
Speaker A
way the more Garber could easily handle any of the tasks that you have seen and without deformation of the blade the blade wobbling or doing something like that so either this is just too soft at 59 on the Rockwell and maybe that is
09:53
Speaker A
even lower down there maybe it's bad heat treats I'm not sure or it can just be that it's a very thin very precise behind the edge blade which it is and it just can't handle hard abuse it just can
10:05
Speaker A
you just can't put it through the batoning that you're seeing and the hard side splitting that sometimes does occur with Bushcraft and that is really disappointing because the prices there at about 75 dollars for the base model about 115 for their Pro and then you can
10:20
Speaker A
even get like a crazy kit to go with it if you really want to make it like a One-Stop shop just for some perspective here is the Joker Campero this is Sam fake 14c28n Rockwell 58 to 60. it's going to be
10:35
Speaker A
0.14 I believe on the spine thickness so it's just a hair thicker but it's a full flat grind same steel European you know processed seam design and I've put this through much more longer tasks than this has and it has no Edge deformation
10:50
Speaker A
chipping Rollings you know any anything like that no problems and this is held up excellently well with that type of Steel this is Full Tang pinned in Micarta you can get wood and a leather sheath and depending on the leather
11:02
Speaker A
she's variant you can get these from like 70 to like 90 bucks so throughout this video I'm going to have links to the garberg to this Joker and to the Victorinox if you do decide to do that so basically what I would say is that
11:13
Speaker A
this is an extremely light duty knife great for precision if you want to treat it like a scalpel and you use your knife like a scalpel then this is very good in a lot of capabilities with that 90
11:23
Speaker A
degree spine and everything else but if you're looking at it as like competitive to the Garber garberg is definitely Superior in its durability on every level that I can see both in tip strength but also in just handling
11:36
Speaker A
harder abuse and then finally the sheath it's you know it's not great it could have been improved quite significantly in a fixed blade lives 90 of the time in its sheath so sheath particularly in 21st century needs to be executed well
11:50
Speaker A
and I'm like so the pro series will have like uh tweezers fire steel and like a pen or something and then again you can get this whole like kit for it so the deal is very loud garberg that's just the lanyard slapping I mean
12:09
Speaker A
it's silent it's super super quiet ambidextrous so that's a good thing you got this little sleeve right here that says Victorinox on it that passes through and then you got this nice nylon strap very large you know you can get
12:21
Speaker A
any normal size belt through there without an issue and then this elastic band right here with a little tab that holds the handle into place if you're like hiking or trekking so that's good because it won't come out when you do that
12:35
Speaker A
whereas the garberg just with the standard version now they do have the Molle compatible you know set I mean that'll come out with a simple little jerk now if you don't use the strap you'll actually get slightly better tension
12:45
Speaker A
but again it's just so loud and it seats weird it's got these like little teeth right here that can catch the guard but sometimes you get it in like at an angle and it doesn't want to go in see it's like
12:56
Speaker A
catching right there it's it's an awkward setup now again rotatable and you completely remove the nylon strap if you wanted to and just like put it in a pack just to kind of like lighten it even a little bit low less I guess or
13:08
Speaker A
more if you wanted to so um there are ways I guess I'm seeing some people like put this into boiling water and then like mold it around you know and make it a little bit tighter a little bit snugger and that helps with
13:19
Speaker A
the slap so it's doable but it just if it was quieter and just had a more like organic click in would have helped a little bit with the sheath so guys when I purchased this I was super pumped I
13:31
Speaker A
was looking forward to an alternative to the garberg at around that same price point with similar steel similar capabilities but a full flat grind so there's an alternative for different capability but after having used it having seen my Edge deforming
13:48
Speaker A
with General Bushcraft tasks and knowing that I'm not alone in that and seeing that on like one other YouTube video uh I'm it's basically a glorified kitchen knife I was really hoping for more if you're looking for a full flat grind
14:02
Speaker A
version in that same price point again the Campero from Joker knives would be a great alternative I freaking love that knife that's like one of my favorite sub 100 knives in the in that size range it's a great Camp
14:16
Speaker A
knife so um but guys I look forward to hearing from you particularly if you own one have you been seeing similar Edge issues or not this is my mileage your mileage may vary and I look forward to hearing all the comments below thank you
14:29
Speaker A
for joining me today I invite you to again check out the other video popping up and subscribe if you haven't yet until next time always remember stay equipped stay prepared and I'll see you out there
Topics:Victorinox VentureMora Garbergbushcraft knifefixed blade knifeSandvik 14C28Nknife reviewoutdoor gearknife handle designfull flat grindknife comparison

Frequently Asked Questions

What makes the Victorinox Venture different from the Mora Garberg?

The Venture features a unique hex-shaped lanyard hole for pallet bits, an exposed tang for spoon carving and spark striking, and a lighter, more nimble design with a full flat grind blade.

Is the Victorinox Venture suitable for food preparation?

Yes, the full flat grind blade excels at slicing tasks such as food prep, meat processing, and cutting harder fruits and vegetables, outperforming the Mora Garberg in these areas.

Are there any concerns with the Victorinox Venture blade?

The reviewer discovered a potential fatal flaw in the blade that could impact its performance, which is discussed further in the video.

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