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Adam, you were on the Dave Smith show. You and Dave Smith did a debate together on, uh, what do you call it, on Piers Morgan. I think that's the first time you were ever on.
Adam discusses his debate with Dave Smith on Piers Morgan, addressing preparation, audience reactions, and his views on America and libertarianism.
Key Takeaways
- Adam’s debate style is confrontational and unapologetic, aiming to challenge rather than appease.
- Preparation is crucial for effective debating, and Adam acknowledges he could have been better prepared.
- There is a clear ideological divide between Adam and Dave Smith, especially regarding views on America and libertarianism.
- Audience and social media reactions are often intense, but Adam chooses not to engage with them directly.
- Personal growth and strategic thinking are important for Adam’s future public engagements.
Summary
- Adam appeared on the Dave Smith show and debated him on Piers Morgan, marking his first time on the show.
- There was speculation that Adam was heavily prepped by his team before the debate.
- Adam admits he did not watch or listen to the interviews or check social media reactions.
- He acknowledges Dave Smith as smart and capable but disagrees with some of his views and style.
- Adam’s approach was to make waves rather than play nice during the debate.
- He strongly supports America, its troops, and allies, opposing Dave Smith’s characterization of America as a terrorist regime.
- Adam critiques libertarianism, noting only 1% of Americans vote for libertarians and calling Dave Smith a radical libertarian.
- The conversation touches on the importance of preparation and making strong arguments in debates.
- Adam reflects on his personal style and philosophy regarding debates and public discourse.
- The video also discusses the need for personal and professional growth in the next phase of Adam’s career.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction to Adam's Debate on Piers Morgan
- 01:02Audience Reactions and Speculation on Preparation
- 01:46Adam's Personal Approach and Mindset
- 02:35Acknowledging Dave Smith's Intelligence
- 03:36Adam's Self-Assessment of Debate Performance
- 05:27Discussion on Libertarianism and Political Views
- 06:47Real-Life Interactions and Public Perception
- 08:41Future Directions and Personal Growth
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Obviously, the market has responded and they they've been uh uh you know saying their thoughts on how it went, what you did, what was said. Davis retweeted and uh said something about uh uh this is the end of Adam funeral. He made some
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Obviously, the market has responded and they’ve been, uh, you know, saying their thoughts on how it went, what you did, what was said. Dave Smith retweeted and, uh, said something about, uh, this is the end of Adam’s funeral. He made some
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watches and says, I know for a fact Pat prepped him and the team prepped him and this and this and that and they don't know what happens. I want you to share with us because the audience is curious.
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comments that went viral. You’ve responded. You made some videos at him as well, but I just want to kind of get, because a lot of times from the audience, you have to know how this works. The audience sits there and
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Well, I despite what you think, I haven't listened or watched any of the interviews zero. Like I have like I don't go on to Twitter. I don't uh check the comments. It's just not something that I do. Uh some people are messaging
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watches and says, I know for a fact Pat prepped him and the team prepped him and this and this and that, and they don’t know what happens. I want you to share with us because the audience is curious.
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Ain't nothing going to slow me down. And that's how I feel about this. So they told me last minute, hey, you're going to go on Pierce Morgan. Sure. I think Tom was maybe going to do it. Tom wasn't
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They’re asking me, what is your impression on how you did on the debate with Dave Smith?
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Listen, there's no doubt that Dave Smith is smart or wise or well read. Yeah.
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Well, despite what you think, I haven’t listened or watched any of the interviews. Zero. Like, I don’t go on to Twitter. I don’t, uh, check the comments. It’s just not something that I do. Uh, some people are messaging
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Now, do I think Dave Smart is Dave Smith is smart and capable? Sure. Do I think he's funny? No. Do I think he's right?
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me on my neck. What do you think? I don’t know. People are saying stuff and I’m listening to a song called Ain’t Nothing Gonna Break My Stride.
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day. That's not my thing. It's a food fight every single day. Respect to Pierce Morgan. I wanted to make some waves. That was my methodology. I could be right. I could be wrong. I don't care.
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Ain’t nothing gonna slow me down. And that’s how I feel about this. So they told me last minute, hey, you’re going to go on Piers Morgan. Sure. I think Tom was maybe going to do it. Tom wasn’t
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I know what I believe. I know who I am. I know what I stand for. I stand for what America stands for. Dave Smith, what pissed me off, he continues to say that America is the greatest terrorist regime in the world and that the and
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able to do it. They called me up. I said, sure, I’ll debate Dave Smith.
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Sure, that's his argument. My point Yeah. was that only 1% of Americans vote for libertarians. He's a hardcore radical libertarian.
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Listen, there’s no doubt that Dave Smith is smart or wise or well-read. Yeah.
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and comments in real life. I walk around in real life, I have zero issues.
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20 communists, uh, on Jubilee. They were all very smart. I was very impressed by all these people. But just because you’re smart doesn’t mean you’re wise.
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that matter, people don't support this guy. I support our troops. I support America. I support our allies.
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Now, do I think Dave Smith is smart and capable? Sure. Do I think he’s funny? No. Do I think he’s right?
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my perspective, there is issues, there is approach, there is what's next for you. When I look at everybody in a marketplace, including myself, everybody in a marketplace, including myself, I I leave and I say, okay, how am I
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Definitely not. I’m asking you, how do you think you did? I think I did fine. My intention wasn’t to be play nice. So, I went on Piers Morgan. I don’t really have plans on going on Piers Morgan every single
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great conversation together. One of the guys that was study a lot was Billy Graham. And Billy Graham and his friends in 1948, they came out with something called the Modesto Manifesto.
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day. That’s not my thing. It’s a food fight every single day. Respect to Piers Morgan. I wanted to make some waves. That was my methodology. I could be right. I could be wrong. I don’t care.
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And they came up with this thing saying, "Hey, what are our threats?" And they came out with the threats that they had.
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Okay. The problem is this. You said you don’t care. No. Meaning like I don’t care what the market thinks of me.
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you are God. Like some pastors actually become godlike because of how much the church fears him and they liked.
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Yeah.
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I'm asking you. The argument is one end because I don't know if you focused on making a I've seen you make better arguments with Bassam Yoseseph than you did with Dave Smith. I didn't see you making arguments on Dave Smith. And and
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I know what I believe. I know who I am. I know what I stand for. I stand for what America stands for. Dave Smith, what pissed me off, he continues to say that America is the greatest terrorist regime in the world and that
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how I handle debates. I don't handle debates that way. That's not my mo. So, if you're close to me and you're handling it that way, that is not my style. I I I don't I don't do I don't do
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Israel is the greatest terror regime in the Middle East. So what? That’s his argument.
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following reason. This is how I roll, Adam. I will give you private feedback and have your back 100%. I've always been like that. This is why my guys like working with me and they know how tough it is that time because I'm always
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Sure, that’s his argument. My point was that only 1% of Americans vote for libertarians. He’s a hardcore radical libertarian.
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take about this game. I don't care that we have differences and debates. We we push each other here and we have arguments and you know comment. I side with Vinnie today. You know what? Today actually I side with Adam. You know,
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So when you wrote the book Choose Your Enemies Wisely, you said, "Who’s your enemy?"
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siding with Tom today. Pat, you were off today. No problem. But it's recreating for the next phase of what is that next phase for you. And that's a very important thing for you to be thinking about. I've had that conversation with
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Yeah. I said, "I don’t know who my enemy is. I don’t really have a lot of enemies." You know me, Pat. It’s a big difference between the internet
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the past that beat Dave. Great. You know, you brought up a No, there there needs to be the the the Adam that I've seen debate that is prepared. He actually would have made some real good points there. And you, by the way,
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and comments in real life. I walk around in real life, I have zero issues.
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good job you did as a moderator. So, I don't know. I'm saying this publicly to say this next phase requires all of us to recreate ourselves.
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You don’t have issues there. That’s not the conversation I’m having. The conversation that I was just basically establishing is that Dave Smith, as potent as he might be on a podcast or even on Joe Rogan for
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to say this publicly to you right now. And you have to make a decision on what you want to do with this next phase.
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that matter, people don’t support this guy. I support our troops. I support America. I support our allies.
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business podcast to to do this because obviously Monday I couldn't be here. We had certain things that go was going on this weekend. I had uh uh uh what do you call it?
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I think Joe’s had him on 20, 30 times.
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I don't care, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. And and sometimes this is like the Trump effect. Well, Trump doesn't care. Well, Trump doesn't give a Well, Trump doesn't do this. Well, contrary to
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Irrelevant.
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don't recommend that at all. But I do believe a little bit of criticism to see, well, maybe there's a little bit of credibility there. There's a little bit of value there for me to receive. How can I receive this and recreate myself?
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No, it’s not irrelevant. So ask whether you agree with the guy or not. You know Joe likes Dave, right? So the question you got to ask yourself is from
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open up with get right into it. Um, is the following. There is no April Fool's jokes today. I don't have one. Okay? So, if you guys are expecting an April Fool's joke, I don't have one. This is not April Fool's joke. I know what day
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my perspective, there are issues, there is approach, there is what’s next for you. When I look at everybody in a marketplace, including myself, everybody in a marketplace, including myself, I leave and I say, okay, how am I
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year when I'm in a in different mood. But this the part I want you to be thinking about.
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recreating myself for this next phase? What areas do I have where it’s a leak for me? What habits do I have that I need to pay attention to? When we started building an insurance company, yesterday I had Lee Strobel on. We had a
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February of 2026. Weird. It has two followers follow 6,000 accounts. That's a bot of somebody that created to say it. Forget about the bots. There are some people that are given real feedback that we have to pay close attention to because, you know, we
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great conversation together. One of the guys that was studied a lot was Billy Graham. And Billy Graham and his friends in 1948, they came out with something called the Modesto Manifesto.
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didn't disrespect the kids. Yeah. When I spoke to them, our position has to be a different position. And even when Trump calls out, he still is very paying attention to the likability score that he has. Love him or hate him,
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And at that time there were a lot of pastors that were getting caught up with young girls.
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I'll just break this down real quick. We didn't have this discussion prior. You just kind of preemptively brought this up and I'm totally okay with it. If I wanted to have a ideological debate with Dave, uh I would probably rephrase it
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And they came up with this thing saying, "Hey, what are our threats?" And they came out with the threats that they had.
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sit at home all day and wait for women to knock on your door." And that's when you can respond to women. The world doesn't work that way. If you're a sales coach or if you're a sales manager, that's like saying, "Just just just stay
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It was four things. One of the ones was pastors hooking up with members. Number two was churches taking advantage of the members with money. Number three was the ego of a pastor when you get on stage and you feel like you know
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The point is that I'm trying we're not aligned. What is the purpose of a debate?
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you are God. Like some pastors actually become godlike because of how much the church fears him and they liked.
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The purpose of a debate is for me to get it look at something when like the moment where Hillary Clinton and Trump are going at it and Hillary says, you know, you know him and all his he didn't
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Anyways, they go through this. I said, okay, how do we want to build this company? It’s very hard. So you got to think about ways to improve.
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donors do. And by the way, you've been there for 36 years. How come you've never changed it? So me as the voter sits there and says that's a very good point.
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I’m asking you. The argument is one end because I don’t know if you focused on making a—I’ve seen you make better arguments with Bassam Youssef than you did with Dave Smith. I didn’t see you making arguments on Dave Smith. And
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Sure. Well now fair point. The point that I was trying to make is that ideologically we're not aligned here.
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the reason why I’m doing this with you openly and I’m talking to you openly with you is there’s an element of also representing where you’re coming from, where the expectation is, hey, where do you go and be professionals? That’s not
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So I'm all behind Trump. Everybody wants to criticize Trump right now. The thing that I'm basically establishing is the fact that this guy has a luxury of living in America and wants to criticize the heck out of Trump when I'm defending
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how I handle debates. I don’t handle debates that way. That’s not my mo. So, if you’re close to me and you’re handling it that way, that is not my style. I don’t do
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you're talking about. The reason that I brought up the Coleman Hughes, and I encourage people to go watch it, this was the the sort of like the Swan Song event. Imagine you you you hype up this event. Here's what's going. the SLS is
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stuff like that. And Dave and I don’t even agree on some of these issues. But if I’m having a conversation, it’s about what is this next phase? And by the way, the reason why I’m having this direct feedback with you publicly is for the
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So that's my point. Should I have conveyed it a little bit better? Sure. Should I have not brought up someone else's debate in my debate? Maybe I'll learn that for the next time. That's fine. But the reality is this. He got
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following reason. This is how I roll, Adam. I will give you private feedback and have your back 100%. I’ve always been like that. This is why my guys like working with me and they know how tough it is that time because I’m always
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Sure. For the next time I'll debate him just heads on. I brought up something that from the past, but my my feedback isn't actually that.
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challenging them. But if my private feedback that I’m giving doesn’t land and it feels like you have immunity to go run around and say whatever you want and keep saying I don’t give a what people say, I do. There’s an approach to
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Good feedback's being given. Not 80% of people, not 90% of people, but there are reasonable people that will give you good feedback.
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take about this game. I don’t care that we have differences and debates. We push each other here and we have arguments and, you know, comment. I side with Vinny today. You know what? Today actually I side with Adam. You know,
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tested to say, "You know what? Let me receive some of this and see if there's some good feedback and then process it." I I'm going to turn this over to Vinnie.
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there were a couple moments we had where you had a couple clips of like they sided with you. I think Adam’s the point today. And I’m like, oh, okay, Adam had a point. And then, hey, Tom, no, I’m
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What's that? We say, "Hey, what feedback do you have for me? What feedback for me?" We actually talk. We actually convey. How many times have we done stuff like that?
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siding with Tom today. Pat, you were off today. No problem. But it’s recreating for the next phase of what is that next phase for you. And that’s a very important thing for you to be thinking about. I’ve had that conversation with
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So this this this event at SLS I asked a question because I used to always look at my guys and judge them on how hard they work, how great they're on scripts, how many books they read and all this
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him recreating himself. I’ve had the conversation with him recreating himself. I have the conversation openly with me on what I need to recreate. But for me, when I saw that, I’m like, you know, you brought up another guy from
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So you teach something, this guy retains 10%, that guy retains 20%, this guy retains 30%. Then the next thing is okay, so he's winning on retaining information. And he's smarter than you.
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the past that beat Dave. Great. You know, you brought up a—No, there needs to be the Adam that I’ve seen debate that is prepared. He actually would have made some real good points there. And you, by the way,
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Execution. So he only implements of the 30% he retained 5%. He retain 20% but he executes 20%. You retain 10% but you you know implement 50%. Then it comes to coachability. Then it becomes speed of implementation. Then all of that stuff
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you’ve been a moderator for Zero Hedge with Dave Smith and, and, uh, what do you call it? Uh, Laura Loomer, if I’m not mistaken. Is that what you did? Didn’t you moderate?
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this too long. I want to move on. You want to say something? This will take me two minutes from from a debate point of view cuz I I'll give both sides. He's never been in this uh in this environment. Meaning when they
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Yeah. And I did a pretty good job you did as a moderator. So, I don’t know. I’m saying this publicly to say this next phase requires all of us to recreate ourselves.
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I know you were hot. Even what's his name was in there? Uh Jaden was in there.
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And that includes you in a big way. And I’ve said this privately eight weeks ago, nine weeks ago at that di
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felt because I know you as a brother. I know that you were nervous. This is what bothered me. Adam, we are in here and I know it's going to happen today on this podcast. We're going to Israel is going
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to be brought up and we're going to go into it. You are a you are amazing at that debate and it I was disappointed because you know you're in the moment and you refer to whatever. You have the
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arsenal. You had the ammunition. you had this big ass arsenal and you just used a pistol. You were just like kind of going after and doing personal. And I was disappointed cuz I was like, "Yo, you have it. You have it. You didn't use
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it." And this is my attitude. When I was young and I would get my ass whooped, my mom would like, "You're going to go outside. You're going to fight that guy to right now. You're not going to sit
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here and let it fester. I know that you're going to do it. You're going to have to debate him again. You have to do it again." Okay. All right. Tom, you don't look like you have anything to say. It's all
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good. We can just I don't I don't have anything to It's all your fault. I was filling in for you.
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No. No. No. No. Pat. No. Pat was very articulate about it. He's got standards.
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We get feedback. We try to meet those standards and we want to represent well wherever we are.
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Okay. All right. All good. Thank you, Tom. We got a lot of messages, Pat. You know, Monday, who do I go to if we don't have the podcast? We were expecting we change the business podcast. Yesterday, I sat down with Lee Strobble for two
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hours. Great conversation. The author of Case for Christ. Tomorrow, we're going to have Richard Wernern to talk about the economy. And I'm very excited about talk about him, talking about it with him because he's got very good angles he
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