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The biggest scams in human history: the Charles Ponzi scheme. The word Ponzi probably sounded familiar to you and instantly made you think of fraud or scams or schemes, and you're exactly right. Ponzi schemes are an extremely well-known and, unfortunately, well-used type of scam. But what I'm discussing is the original Ponzi scheme, named after Charles Ponzi, a man who ran one of the largest financial scams of his time and was so influential with his scams that they literally named the method of fraud after him. Charles Ponzi didn't necessarily invent the Ponzi scheme technique, but he did have one of the most impactful uses of it, originally making him the grandfather of financial fraud scams and the Ponzi scheme. Charles was born on March 3rd, 1882, and he had likely one of the longest names I've ever seen. His full name was Carlo Petro Giovani Gagimo Tabaldo Panzi. That's right, that's six names. Like, is it one first name, four middle names, and one last name? Two first names, two middle names, two last names, six first names? I don't know. It may not come as a surprise that Mr. Charles Six-Name Ponzi was born in Northern Italy, in case the names didn't already give that away. According to interviews in his own biography, Ponzi found a love for earning and spending money at a young age, and he even said, quote, "Spending money seemed the most attractive thing on earth." Now, that's easy to say when you're spending time in universities with your rich friends and they're covering your tab, but once you need to start paying your own bills, that's when things get tough. And that's exactly what happened to Charles Ponzi, as he ended up leaving university with no money in his pocket and no diploma to show for his time at the school. And because of this, Ponzi decided that his best course of action was to follow in the footsteps of some of his family members and go to America to seek new opportunities. Now, in the late 1800s, early 1900s, that was relatively common, and a lot of Italians were immigrating to the United States from Italy, although not many of them ended up doing what Ponzi did. After arriving in America, Ponzi worked odd jobs trying to get some sort of cash flow in this new life he had begun, although he couldn't hold the job down for long because he was often caught stealing. Once he likely burned too many bridges in the States, he then decided to move to Canada. Once in Canada, he found his first real career as a bank teller at a bank that was specifically made for Italian immigrants coming to Canada. He was obviously a shoe-in, and because of this, combined with his people skills, he was able to quickly climb the ladder of the company. And this really marks the turning point where his petty theft turns into widespread financial fraud. Now, it wasn't with this bank where he committed the fraud that we're going to end up discussing, although it's definitely where the seed was planted. Because the bank that he was working for actually ended up going under, because the founder of this bank, Luigi Zarasi, was actually running a Ponzi scheme out of this bank, offering high interest rates to customers and paying out those interest payments from new deposits. And once this bank collapsed, Ponzi's career also collapsed, leaving him once again with no money and no direction. And during this time, he actually got caught with a fake check and went to prison for three years, which he served. And then, after his time was up, he went back to the United States. And once back in the States, he obviously started a new life, right? He was a clean man. He went to jail. He learned his lesson. No. His first job once back in the States was actually smuggling Italian immigrants into the United States, which he got caught for and served an additional two years. And after this second stint in jail and two more failed businesses, Ponzi decided that it was time to get rich for real. And this is where his big scheme and all of his criminal career comes together, and he decides to run his first Ponzi scheme. Now, we're going to be talking about Ponzi schemes a lot, so if you're not familiar with what a Ponzi scheme is, in short, it's the old adage of robbing Peter to pay Paul. What you essentially do is take money from group A. Let's say group A gives you money because you tell them you're going to double their money, and then you get group B and C to give you money under the same deal that you're going to help them double their money. You take group B and C's money and give it to group A. You officially now doubled their money, but now group B and C want their money doubled, right? So you need group D and E, new investors, to pay group C and B, and essentially it's a never-ending cycle where you need new people to pay off old debts while at the same time keeping the entire lie concealed that you actually don't have the money that you say you have and that there is no investment or accumulation of wealth going on. You're simply perpetually in debt and allowing new investors to pay the debt to old investors, and nobody's really making money. And as soon as you stop getting new investors, everything falls apart. That's the long and short of a Ponzi scheme. But what makes a Ponzi scheme so insane is the scale that some people take it, which is what we're going to discuss. So after jail and failed business after failed business after failed job, how exactly did Charles Ponzi plan to get rich? What was the original Ponzi scheme? It actually involved postage coupons. Obviously, in the early 1900s, like literally 1906, there was no iMessage, there was no Instagram, there was no text, there was nothing, and letters were huge. And during this time, there was something known as an international reply coupon, and what it was was basically a courtesy. Let's say that you're in the United States and you're writing a letter to your friend in the United Kingdom. You might pay 25 cents to send your letter to your friend, but as a courtesy, you might not want to make them spend their own money to reply to you because they didn't ask for you to reach out to them, right? So this international reply coupon is something that you would buy, put in the letter that you're sending to your friend, so that when your friend opened the letter, they had a coupon to send you a letter back free of charge to them, because you already paid for it. Makes sense and seems simple enough, but to Ponzi, this wasn't simply a courtesy. This was an arbitrage opportunity. You see, as a scammer, Ponzi was always looking for people to pick up his business ideas, and because of that, he was sending letters constantly to people that he was pitching business ideas to. And one day, he got a letter back from a company in Spain, and this company included an international reply coupon in the letter. And one thing that Ponzi noticed was that the price on this international reply coupon from Spain was different than the price of the ones he could buy in the States. Now, this is interesting because on paper, all of the coupons are supposed to have the same cash price, but because of World War I, inflation affected different areas differently, meaning that although the prices may have remained the same, the values of the currencies have not, which meant that there was an opportunity for Ponzi to make some money. For simple math, let's say that you in the United States could buy one of these reply coupons for 5 cents USD, and your friend in the United Kingdom could buy a stamp for 5. Assuming at one point these currencies had the exact same value, both you and your friend are paying the same amount for these coupons. However, let's say inflation affected the UK more than it did the US during World War I, and now the Great British pound is worth 10% less compared to the US dollar. There's an opportunity because while the prices of each of these items is still the same, the relative value of the money that your friend in the UK is buying them for is less, meaning that if you converted $500 for 550 Great British pounds, you could get 11,000 international reply coupons, and if you sold those 11,000 in...