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[ELECTRONIC MUSIC] We've all been there, scrolling through our daily feed, only to discover that yet another person whose work we've at some point appreciated has said terrible things or committed odious acts.
Explores the complex relationship between appreciating art and confronting artists' problematic behaviors, questioning how we separate art from the artist.
Key Takeaways
- Art and artist behavior are deeply intertwined, affecting how we perceive and value art.
- Knowledge of an artist's misconduct can change our emotional and intellectual engagement with their work.
- We have a responsibility to consider the implications of supporting problematic artists financially or through attention.
- Museums and cultural institutions face challenges in presenting art with complex histories but should include multiple perspectives.
- Individual viewers must make personal decisions about how to reconcile art appreciation with ethical concerns.
Summary
- The video discusses the challenge of appreciating art created by artists who have committed harmful or offensive acts.
- It highlights examples like Picasso's misogyny and Chuck Close's alleged misconduct to illustrate how knowledge of the artist affects perception of their work.
- The narrator reflects on personal experiences with art and how new information changes their interpretation and emotional response.
- The video emphasizes that art is rarely viewed purely on its own merit, as context and background influence audience reception.
- It discusses the impact of financial rewards and public attention on supporting problematic artists.
- Different approaches to dealing with problematic artists are presented, including acknowledging both good and bad aspects, reclaiming art, or making alternatives.
- The video argues against purging museums or history books but supports sharing stories and weighing knowledge alongside the artwork.
- It stresses the importance of individual choice and responsibility in deciding how to engage with art and artists.
- The video concludes that our consumption choices influence what creative work is made and promoted in the future.
- Ultimately, it calls for intentionality in how we view, support, or reject art connected to problematic creators.
Chapters
- 00:00Introduction: The dilemma of loving art but hating the artist
- 00:38Picasso's misogyny and its impact on viewing his art
- 01:07Chuck Close's portraits and personal misconduct
- 01:56How knowledge changes our perception of art
- 02:23The role of information in interpreting artworks
- 03:03Positive impacts of learning about artists
- 03:33Nicholas Nixon's photographs and controversy
- 04:18Considering financial and ethical implications of art consumption
- 05:12Approaches to dealing with problematic artists and their work
- 06:42Conclusion: Personal responsibility in art appreciation
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Artists and art professionals have certainly been among them. And the dead are not immune to our judgment, as Hannah Gadsby demonstrates so well in her epic takedown of Pablo Picasso in her Netflix special "Nanette." He said, "Each time, each time I leave a woman,
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I should burn her. Destroy the woman, you destroy the past she represents." Cool guy.
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The greatest artist of the 20th century. Picasso's mistreatment of women and flagrant misogyny has been no secret to anyone who has studied his work or read anything about his life.
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But where does that leave us with his actual art? What do we do when we encounter it in a book or a museum?
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Can we divorce the art from the artist, and should we? On one of my first trips to New York as a high school student, I saw a show at the Museum of Modern Art of work by the artist Chuck Close.
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It blew me away. His enormous portraits were not only astounding to me technically and optically, but also left me in this strange but enjoyable head space of being intimately close in proximity to a person without actually knowing anything about them.
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This uncanny feeling of simultaneous nearness and distance feels even more pronounced to me when his subjects are famous people.
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When I read the recent accounts of a number of women who had humiliating experiences in his studio, I was bummed out.
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I felt badly for the women to whom it had happened and also disappointed, because I knew I'd never look at one of his pictures the same way again.
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No criminal allegations were brought. And he apologized. And you can read all about it yourself.
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But now, when I look at one of his works, I think about what the interaction might have been between the artist and the sitter.
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Was this a friend and the process a happy, consensual one, or an awkward or strained situation where the sitter was too embarrassed to object or leave?
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Why are some sitters asked to pose nude and others clothed? Which ones are paid models, and which ones are not?
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I still marvel at the technical mastery in front of me, but now I'm also more aware, not only of the artist's act of looking in making the picture, but also my own role as an observer of whatever is and was happening.
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Our reading of an artwork is always affected by the information we have or don't have about it.
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Sometimes we have a choice in the matter, like whether we read an object label in a museum or read articles or books about an exhibition or artist.
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If you don't have that information, you have a greater chance of a pure reading of it.
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But other times, we don't choose what we learn. Maybe a friend had a bad run-in with the artist, or you hear something anecdotally, or a story breaks and you happen to see it in your feed.
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This works both ways, by the way. More information can have a positive impact on an artwork as well.
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Maybe you read an interview with an artist who's really rad, and the next time you see their work, you like it more because of it.
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Maybe when you took that art class to fulfill that credit, you happened to learn about the amazing work of Leonora Carrington.
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And so the next time you come across it, you're more inclined to like it and give it more attention.
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Earlier this year, when allegations of inappropriate sexual behavior were swirling around photographer Nicholas Nixon, he asked that the ICA Boston take down their exhibition of his work early, stating, "I believe it's impossible for these photographs to be viewed on their own merits any longer."
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Now art is almost never viewed purely on its own merit. There are often cues that tell us something is important or unimportant.
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But I think Nixon was right. It would have been difficult for the art-going public in Boston to appreciate his pictures in the same way that they might have a few months before.
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I've long adored his series of photographs of his wife and her three sisters, taken once annually since 1975.
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There are so many things to appreciate as you watch these sisters develop and evolve.
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The photographer's presence is only occasionally visible in a shadow, but is always palpable in the extreme intimacy and comfort that feels apparent between Nixon and his subjects.
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It's up to me now whether or how I reconcile my knowledge of the artist with his work.
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And my reading of his work has and will continue to change over time by forces within and outside of my control.
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Because it also matters how much the work itself reminds you of the odious acts, right?
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Like, it's pretty easy to see misogyny in some of Picasso's works and less so in others.
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When I look at a Carl Andre sculpture, I'm not immediately compelled to think about who he is as a person.
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But it's impossible not to think about when looking at a painting of nude Tahitian girls by an artist who we know married three different Tahitian girls, ages 13, 14, and 14, and infected them with syphilis.
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And I would definitely start to think about it if he was still alive and I was to, say, consider purchasing his work.
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Because part of this equation is considering who reaps the financial rewards of our attention, right?
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When another YouTuber does something stupid and everyone gets upset about it, do I want to go watch the offending video?
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Heck yes. But do I? Heck no. I can't bear to think I'll be a single digit in that view count or contribute financially in any way to that person and their fame.
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Our attention matters. And it's also being closely monitored, amounting to ad dollars and influencing boardroom decisions about what kind of stuff gets made.
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Even if the artist is long gone and profits little from our attention, we still send a message to the powers that be that we're willing to look at and appreciate work by artists who behave in certain ways.
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We communicate more broadly to everyone around us that it's OK if you're a jerk.
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If you make good stuff, we'll consume it. So even if the past is past—which it never is—we're affecting what gets seen today and in the future.
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So what do we do? There's always the old asterisk approach, where you talk about the good stuff, but are sure to mention the bad stuff, too.
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Art museums tend to do this awkwardly and inconsistently. And I don't envy their conundrum.
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Another approach is to reclaim the work in some way, like Amber Ruffin's hilarious proposal on "Late Night with Seth Meyers," making guilt-free alternatives to art created by problematic men.
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Hang it in your house. And when people are like, "Ooh, is that a Picasso?", say, "No, it was made by someone who respects women." Or you can think of Jewish conductor Daniel Barenboim's hugely contentious decision to perform
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the work of Richard Wagner, known anti-Semite and influencer of Hitler, at a concert in Israel.
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I don't think there should be some giant reckoning where we unearth buried wrongdoings and purge our museums and art history books of any artist who's ever done something offensive.
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Our museums are the holders of our histories and should express the good with the bad.
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But when someone comes forward attesting to wrongdoings, or when, in the course of research, they're uncovered, there's no putting the cat back in the bag.
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People have a right to share their stories. And we have a right to hear the stories they want to share.
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And then it's on us to weigh that knowledge with the work in question and make our own decisions about how and whether we let it affect our actions.
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Each case is different, and there are so many different facets to take into account.
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Aside from the nature of the offense and however seriously you take it is the work of collaborative effort, where the offending party is just one contributor out of many.
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Does the work not only remind you of the offense, but in any way reflect or promote the value system of the offender?
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Can we excuse a sexist, anti-Semitic scientist for
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Who suffers when the offender's work remains accessible? And conversely, who suffers when their work is no longer part of our cultural heritage?
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Look, you can make quality art and do bad things but you should know that there will be consequences when those bad things are revealed and that you'll lose the privilege of a less clouded reading of your work when that happens.
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The cat will never go back in the bag. You can try to get rid of it, get it spayed or neutered so that it doesn't make more cats like it.
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Or you can come to terms with the cat, try to reform it, or accept it for the compromised companionship it can offer.
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OK. No more cat metaphor, I promise. But realize that it is a choice that you're making.
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We all play our part in the celebrity-worshipping culture that we're mired in and which has made it increasingly difficult for any of us to seriously consider separating the artist from the art.
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We are complicit with everything we click on and buy and watch. Artists, like all people, are complicated creatures.
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And because most of them aren't irreconcilably awful, the more you learn about a person, the more tangled and less black and white of a picture you'll likely get.
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But to try to completely separate the art from the artist is to minimize your own role as reader of the work.
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It's not that the artist's role is paramount, but that your role is. I still like Picasso's "Guernica" and Nicholas Nixon's photographs and the amazing mosaic portraits by Chuck Close in the 86th Street subway station in New York, although I do
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wish he decided not to include two self-portraits. But I don't worship their creators or labor under the delusion that good art comes at the expense of being a decent person.
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And most of all, I realize that these situations are usually very nuanced and that each of us is entitled to draw our own lines.
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But if we care about what kind of creative work gets made and offered to us in the future, we've got to be intentional about what we see and consume and either actively or passively support.
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Special thanks to our grandmasters of the arts, Vincent Apa and Indianapolis Homes Realty. [UPBEAT MUSIC]
Topics:art and ethicsproblematic artistsPicassoChuck Closeart appreciationartist misconductmuseum ethicsart historycultural consumptionart criticism
