Fractal Periscope Workshop!! (Best Trading Tool) — Transcript

So this Periscope, it's a feature inside the fractal system, and you don't need really much experience to be able to achieve these gains like we're seeing. The idea of the Periscope system is to have outsized gains, you know, like hundreds of a percent or thousands of a percent like we're seeing. So it just tries to zero in on contracts that have the potential to move and to get these gains like we're seeing, and kind of disregards everything else. It doesn't really care about other stuff; it's just trying to find those big gains.

know like hundreds of a percent or thousands of a percent like we're seeing so it just uh tries to zero in on contrast that and have the potential to move and to get these gains like we're seeing and kind of disregards like

So how does Periscope work? The system runs seven days a week, and it's looking for these trade signals. So it runs Saturday and Sunday also, and the reason is when you come into Monday session, sometimes there are signals that can be used, that can be executed against, traded against. And you'll see on Saturday and Sunday, when you go in there, the signals will change actually over the weekend. It's trying to figure out what could possibly be coming out of the gate.

signals so it runs Saturday and Sunday also and the reason is when you come into Monday session sometimes there's signals that can be used that can be executed against traded against and you'll see on Saturday and Sunday um when you go in there the

So the signals are used to select the contracts, and the contracts are based on 4:00 PM Eastern Time on expiration date. So when it generates a signal, it's saying, "Hey, I've got until 4 PM when I expire to possibly achieve the target." And it is possible that there'll be other contracts that are a little bit higher or a little bit lower in strike to even have more outsized gains. However, this tries to do a risk-for-reward balance, so it's not trying to go super crazy to where you can't achieve some upside.

Time on expiration date so when it generates a signal it's saying hey I've got you know until 4M when I expire to possibly achieve the Target and it is possible you know that there'll be other contracts that are a

So that's why it just kicks out what it can mathematically calculate based on modeling. Underneath the internals of it is the fractal system, that's Periscope, and then Rog Moose has been showing that you go into the fractal system and you open up Periscope. So the way it works is the fractal system on the front end, Periscope is communicating with the SQL server, and the servers are running in the background because it takes so much time to do the processing on these symbols. You can't do it all on one server; it's got to have a bunch of shared CPU because of all the calculations.

upside so that's why you know it just kicks out what it can mathematically calculate based on modeling underneath the internals of it is there's the fractal system that's periscope and then Rog moose has been showing that you you go into the fractal

It can run 2,000, 5,000, 10,000 calculations on a single chain, on the chain plus the underlying, just for one thing. So it can have thousands of calculations because it's making synthetic adjustments. It's like the market maker move, and it's also running some other algorithms outside of that to try to figure this stuff out running in real time. So the servers in the background run in real time, getting up-to-date contract information.

symbols you can do it all on one server it's got to have a bunch of you know shared CPU because of all the calculations it can run 2,000 5,000 10,000 calculations on a single chain on the Chain plus the

So Yahoo has two sides to it: it has historical data, and then it has more of a real-time side for the option contracts. So when the servers are running, it's actually going in real time, and this is going to be important in a minute—who's delivering to us the real-time information for the options. You know, it's maybe got a minute delay. Then there's some background processes that are obtaining contract information out of Yahoo. Those are delayed by 10 minutes, and those communicate with the fractal system on the front side. They communicate with the backend processes on the back, and then they also communicate with the SQL server.

stuff out running in real time so the servers in the background Run in real time getting upto-date contract information so Yahoo has two sides to it it has historical data and then it has more of a real time side for the option

So that's kind of how it looks. You know, it's a pretty simple model. When you get down into the nitty-gritty, it's kind of complicated, but that's how it looks overall. So the objective is to produce outsized gains. So it's whatever the normal market can return, like let's say the QQQ can go up 2% or 3% or go down 1% or 2%, so it's trying to magnify those moves. You know, it's trying to be like, "Okay, I can get 100, 200, a thousand, 2,000, 5,000% on a small move."

delay then there's some background processes that are obtaining contract information out of Yahoo those are delayed by 10 minutes and those communicate with the fractal system on the front side they communicate with the backend processes on the back and then they also

So the moves are mathematically created, so it's not guaranteed to be achieved. You know, you can have things show up and they won't be achieved because the math and the real world try to come together but not always. To obtain these outsized gains, we have to have identification of the potential outsized gains. So that's the signal side, you know, is the identification of what may happen or what could happen, what can happen.

outside outsized gains so it's whatever the normal Mar Market can return like let's say you know the QQQ can go up 2% or 3% or go down 1% or 2% so it's trying to magnify those moves you know it's trying

So the position sizing is important. You know, you don't want to take any single trade and be like, "I'm going to make $100,000 by Friday," and you're starting with, you know, putting a grand in it and that's all you've got. You don't want to do that because that signal could fail. I mean, sure, you can get lucky. You can have back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back signals that work, and you can keep doubling every time you go in and walk out a million bucks, but that's not a good idea because you can also, let's say you take the first one or two, you're at 10, 20, 50,000, then you're like, "I'm going to take 50 grand and put it in. I'm going to get 500 this next time or 200,000 the next time." It could evaporate.

achieved because the math and the real world they try to come together but not always to obtain these outside gains we have to have identification of the potential outside gains so that's the signal side you know is the

So the position sizing, you don't want to go too crazy and keep doubling it, double down. So the system tries to minimize the risk. So it's trying to offer up contracts that are not very expensive, so if they do go bad, you know, because overnight volatility, you could have some money in a contract and it could be zero the next day. So it's trying to find things that have leverage working for them so you don't have to go outsized with your speculation.

I'm starting with you know I'm putting a grand in it and that's all I've got you don't want to do that because that signal could fail I mean sure you can get lucky you can have back to back to back to back to

So you don't have to put in a lot to try to get out something that's mediocre. This tries to find things that you can put in a small amount and get significantly more out of it. So the metrics of a signal are the signal date and time. So you'll see it shows the weekday, it'll be like Monday, and it'll show the date, it'll show the time of the signal, so it records that so it can track, can figure out if it's working. And it shows the contract with it that it's selected, so it'll show the expiration date and then it'll show the strike.

two you're at 10 20 50,000 then you're like I'm going to take 50 Grand and put it in I'm going to get 500 this next time or 200,000 the next time I could evaporate so the position sizing you don't want to go too

And the strike is designated with a P or a C in front. So if it's a P, of course it's a put. If it's a C, it's a call. And then it has the BTO, which is the buy to open price. So that's the price that it's saying, "Hey, you know, this could work at this." And then it has the STC, which is the sell to close. So what it does is it says mathematically if you buy at this level and you sell at that level, you could have the theoretical gain.

money in a contract and it could be zero the next day so it's trying to find things that have that have leverage working for them so you don't have to go like outsized um you know with your speculation so you don't have to like

The theoretical gain is the target percent gain. So buying at the open, selling at the STC, if it does achieve that, then you would have the theoretical gain. And keeping in mind that it gives it till 4:00 PM on expiration date for that target. So that's kind of hard because sometimes, like CAT, I wasn't too big on that. I sent it out anyways. There was a little lurry on it, and I'll show why it was a little lurry in a minute. But sometimes, like on CAT, it was better off to probably sell it when it was up 100 something percent because that one was kind of, that one was really iffy.

signal are the signal date and time so you'll see it shows the weekday it'll be like Monday and it'll show the date it show the time of the signal so it records that so it can track it can

Okay, so after signal generation, Periscope will throw out a possible signal. There's going to be a 10-minute lag in it, so it's going to throw out a signal in real time. You can go in there and click it. You can see like maybe at 9:50 a.m., it'll throw out something. When you click on that signal, it's going to show whatever contract data we have from Yahoo. It's 10 minutes behind, so the signal is actually 10 minutes in front of the data that Yahoo is returning to us.

of course it's a put if it's a c it's a call and then it has the BTO which is the buy to open price so that's price that it's saying hey you know this could work at this and then it has the STC which is

They introduce a 10-minute lag in the data. So whenever we get a signal and you click on it, you don't see anything, you're like, "Russell, this thing doesn't work right." Like, well, no, it's Yahoo, they are 10 minutes behind. So you have to keep that in mind. You have to be like, "Okay, here's a signal. 10 minutes later, I'm going to start to see the data populate heading into that signal."

the STC if it does achieve that then you would have the theoretical gain and keeping in mind that it gives it till 400 p.m. on expiration date for that Target so that's kind of hard cuz like sometimes like cat I wasn't too big on

So the system in the back is fine with that. It does some things, so it doesn't necessarily need all that. So that's why it can throw out a signal ahead of who actually is offering up price data because it's doing a totally different type of co—

something per. cuz that one was kind of that one was really iffy okay so after signal generation so Periscope will throw out a possible signal there's going to be a 10-minute lag in it so it's going to throw out a

signal in real time you can go in there and click it you can see like it maybe at 9:50 a.m. it'll throw out something when you click on that signal it's going to show whatever contract data we have

from Yahoo it's 10 minutes behind so the signal is actually 10 minutes in the front of the data that Yahoo is returning to us they introduce a 10-minute lag in the data so whenever we get a signal and you

click on it you don't see anything you're like Russell this thing doesn't work right like well NOP it's yahoo there are 10 minutes behind so you have to keep that in mind you have to be like okay here's a signal 10 minutes

later I'm going to start to see the data populate heading into that signal so the system in the back is fine with that it does some things so it doesn't necessarily need all that so that's why I can throw out a signal

ahead of yeah who actually offering up price data because it's doing totally different type of computations so the actual High and the percent actual that you'll see when you're using um periscope after signal is generated from that point moving forward

it starts tracking it so when you open the contract like let's say you buy it like we saw apple right we get apple on Monday and then as we open the contract on Tuesday you know it's up 700% 800

1,000% right so it'll be tracking that so it has the suggested sell to close right so maybe we're at at that level or above it and it's tracking that in front of us as the data is coming out so on the so recapping

this we have the 10-minute delay in the contract pricing so an opening you know just keep that in mind have the signal generation which is real time so when you click on the signal generation in real time you know you're

going to need to give it 10 minutes to catch up it'll make sense when you're using it but you just need to be aware of that so you're not freaked out it's because we're cheap and trying to you

know get data without too much cost so when you access the uh Periscope system inside the fractal system you want to right click you know how you right click you op option analyzer generate bical all that you'll right click Periscope will be at the top

so you just select that so so when Periscope First shows up this is the window you're going to see all right so going to say Periscope up there you're going to see the tickers that's our ticker universe that's what we've got in

there that we're watching right now the more tickers we watch the more horsepower we need on the back end so if we're you know doing a lot more tickers we need to get a lot more servers or processing and that's kind of what helps

win too is having more CPU capability um so anyways it will have all those tickers when it comes up it's going to say no contract data is available for this signal it's basically waiting for you to click on a

symbol so a ticker so it's waiting it's basically saying hey I'm ready to roll click on a ticker and I'll start showing you something okay so there's only so many tickers we're tracking in our universe as I mentioned for us to start

expanding this we need to have a more a larger server array because the C all the calculations required of the system does a lot of calculations so by selecting a ticker it's kind of like opening a fractal graph you double click on the ticker so

for example apple I want to see what Apple's saying so I double click on Apple so we'll see this will populate here we'll see the date and time of signals and you can see here it's generating them on

Sunday even though the Market's not open because options right they're always moving in price even when the Market's closed because of the um Theta burn and stuff because they're you know an Expendable product they hav an expiry on

them so they're eyes moving so it's still Saturday Sunday it's still out there doing something so you'll see the um signal you'll see the contract and you can on the little slider here between the columns you can move

the slide around so you can see more of the contract date if you want or whatever but basically it's showing you know Friday December 8th these are 2023 then it's showing our strikes and our bu to opens and our sell to close and then

it's showing our Target percent gain so when it generates that signal it's saying hey this is what I'm seeing at the present time the icing on the cake is when we exceed our Target percent gain so Apple here you know on Monday

when I pulled it up it was at 22 Cents by to open that was a suggested and it was saying to sell it at a buck 82 for 727.5rpm 1100 almost 1,200 actually after that so you know the upside outperformed I didn't check

it today could be up even more so but that's what it's initially thinking because one of the hard things with options is you get into the 22 Cent option and then you're up to 25 cents or 30 cents you're like oh my God I better

sell it and then they go on to run you know 200 500 1,000 2,000 3,000% you're like well that was just stupid so this thing tries to help figure that out mathematically so that it's not like you know so eager to sell and you know just

like with Google right when we got into Google it traded down when we got into goog and then finally you know today it popped up so you know it's showing us where where it thinks it can be at and

not everyone work works out and this thing is not a guarantee every time you see a signal so after you select the ticker so like let's say you know we clicked on the Monday December 4th at 11:35 down

there there's so see how the contract data we were right around a little after 11 and we have the 10-minute lag so that's what you'll experience so when you D so when you get that signal generated and you double

click you're be like well my price date hasn't caught up yet well yeah you have to give it 10 minutes and it'll catch up so it's always 10 minutes behind I keep harping on this cuz it's a little bit

weird when you use it so down below you'll see the um and it's just because we're using Yahoo data free data it's in the public domain so down below when I double click this after I get the signal over here I need to fix this it's

showing up a little box it should show show up an AR Arrow I'm using a character set and it's not mapping right so I need to just draw an arrow in the graph so anyways after it says the BTO

of 022 and I click on it later in the day like I click on it after the Market's closed for example it's now you know all the 10 minutes have worked out and it's now showing a populated graph all the dots are where

trades have occurred so it's just like the vector in thinker swim that we use if there's no trade that's occurred there's just going to be a between the dots so every time we see a DOT that's where a trade has happened so here we go

so once we get our signal and it starts trading in front of us those two columns are going to start to become populated actual high in percent actual so in this case there was a Target %c gain at

18820 our actual high was 250 and the percent actual moving forward was 12727 per. that it moved so as we're moving into the future and you double click on past signals like I just write them down for example so I'll write down

my signals and then I'll go back in and double click I'll see the change Now it only records the high side of the move so let's say we had [Music] 188.com for reference I do that because that's how I

like to see the data so I like to look down and see when signals were generated how high they actually were able to achieve how high they actually got to because I can see visually the contract if it did go to zero after that I can

see it going to zero but I want to know after signal generation how high it went and that's based on the BTO so let's say an apple the bto's 22 like we had on our signal let's say it goes down to 12

cents and then you know goes to $2 right that actual is from the BTO so it's not track once the BTO is put into concrete it tracks from there so if it went down to 12 cents and then went to

two it doesn't readjust it just says the entry was at 22 so if you do go in at 22 like let's say you split your speculative capital and you're like well I'll buy half on Signal and then if I get a better entry

maybe I'll buy another half of my allocation or maybe not but if you do and you're like well signals 22 now I got a signal at 12 so I'll put my other 50% at 12 so I'll have a

blended price average price so it so now you've got got two areas on here that it's cracking from two different BTO so you can see the outcome on that so so the actual high percent actual is always from the BTO

price that you select okay so here's some that's going to be kind of weird when you go in there and you click on a signal hey here's our Apple signal we had it at 22 cents on our contract when

I double click that it populates a few other things in the list maybe it populates two or three maybe 10 maybe 20 what it's doing is because when this window opens I don't want it to be overly burdensome and slow to open and to click

on things so when it retrieves the data it fills in everything for that contract in your list so like let's say there's three different contracts in there it will fill on the it will fill all the contracts in that that are for

your current blue line so like let's say there's a call 130 there's a call 135 and a call 140 if I click on the call 130 everything that's been generated for signal on call 130 becomes populated so if I want to see the 135

and the 140 populated I'll have to click on the 135 and click on the 140 and then it'll populate everything in the list now initially the reason I have 0.0 on my blue line on the actual is because

this is from when it first got signal so it's on the signal there's no data moving forward yet because there's a 10-minute lag so for the first 10 minutes when I double click it's going to say that percent actual

0.0 CU it data has to catch up to the signal so that's why it shows 0.0 the other ones are other signals and the data has since passed so it's able to show those like the 23 53 31 and the

61 54 all right so contract and Signal selection so on the Apple play what I did was I opened up Apple I then looked down the list and I saw what was interesting to me what was interesting to me was the 727 per

upside I didn't you know when I saw coming out of the weekend Saturday Sunday the 75 the 87 I'm like H not too interesting 22% not too interesting and those contracts are very expensive it decided to spit that out

for a second so the one that was interesting was the 22 cents to a buck 82 727 so I look for when I go in here is outsized gains I'm looking for stuff I like the idea of oh 700 500 and I mean

you know 283 284 30 194 point4 those aren't anything to sneeze at right I mean especially on Discord I mean people seem pretty excited when they get 25% or 50% so to see 194% to them and be like oh my

God that's really great well to us since we have this capability and this technology we're like okay 194 it's fine 284 whatever it's great but I like the 727 better so that's how I select the contracts I come in here and I'm just

you know browsing through 11 o'clock is a good time to look and I'm you know just looking at things that are interesting like apple Amazon um goog and I'll just look and see if there's something that's like kind of an

outsized gain something that looks like it has a lot of potential so that's how I came that's how I posted apple and that's how I came to the you know 727 and the plus th% upside was by that technique just looking at down

through it so I'm kind of like automation to a point I like to kind of look at the stuff um so that's why it works that way and there's also bells and whistles in there I haven't brought them over yet

but it'll let you filter and say show me everything it's at 500% show me everything it's at 700 show me everything it's at a th000 right now you just click into it and then you look but that's a bell and whistle that

I have that I just need to bring over I'm trying to get the base code brought over from that Inspire program that this comes out of so um so here's something to be lery of And Rog moose and I were talking about this

the other day on it was ba going if you see SE says Target percent gain and they're all w wildly High 245 I mean there's one at 45.8 but you know they've got 2,000 2440 350 4933 so just are all crazily

high if you see that I do not mess with those with that chain with that set of contracts I look at that and I'm like oh those are just bait they're to bait people in trading retail traders that trading you know they probably go

in the option chain and they would see something like that oh wow I can make 2,000% 3,000 4,000 and they bring down the pricing just so that they can try to you know it's just yeah I yeah so when you're

seeing that and you're seeing solid outsize gains like that I disregard those what you want to see is what we were seeing more on Apple where we have you know gains that are all that's kind of looking kind of

normal like we've got one that's 727 those others 283 284 so that's what we want to look at we don't want to go down and see the thing papered with 2,000 sometimes it'll show 9,000 per gains all the way down that column and

just don't want to mess with those because it's showing you this is low likelihood of working out so here's what looks more normal for oxy you know where we have coming out of the weekend we have 60% gains and we've got

a 114 a 94 a 96 a 78 a 65 52 on Fridays so this thing Thursday and Friday can just be astronomical gains um you know sometimes you can have 5,000% just you know crazy stuff so what I do on Friday is I have a cut

off I'm coming in and looking on Friday and I'm like oh well it looks kind of interesting after we get past 12: pm.

you know we get to 12 we get to one it'll keep throwing out signals but you have to keep in mind that we're running out of time and the signals it's throwing out are I just don't once we get to 12 and

we're getting to one I mean I just don't pay attention to those so of them may work out at the last minute but it's just we have time compression because we have Decay contract Decay kicking in so it's

like it may say hey man there's like a 9,000 per upside if this can happen it may say that at 1 pm you're like oh my God I want to put a grand in it so I can walk out with

10,000 or 20 or 30 or 40,000 and but it's it's running out of time so you know when you're on Friday you're like oh my God I'm going to walk you know it's 12:30 it's one it's two I'm G to swing for the fences

it's just we're running out of time so I usually after about 12 Eastern on Friday I usually don't pay attention to the signals anymore not that they can't work out it's just you know the system's throwing it out there as a possibility because I

don't the system doesn't try to Mass anything if it finds it it throws it out there so you know come Friday afternoon it's going to keep throwing stuff out until The Bitter End but after 12 I just kind of ignore ignore it you don't have

to but it's buyer beware type thing so we'll go on to and you've seen this already with Rogue moose we'll go into Periscope on the fractal system so I opened the fractal system on my machine here I'm going to go into

Periscope and it pulls it up what I'm going to do is I'm gonna click on this thing's so annoying I'm gonna click on Apple this is our Monday play what was it Monday the 11:35 so here's the play we did 22 cents

it's recorded so I'm going to double click and I'm going to look at it so that's what it looks like right now and you can see it's still you know down here kicking away throwing out ideas so here it's throwing out one for

40% there's one for 38 so as I mentioned as I click it starts populating more data so let's check out Sunday so Sunday at 3:15 it threw out an idea for a c1925 said there may be an 87.7% gain

and the actual is 359 so you can see over here so since Sunday and Saturday we can't trade because you know the contract the CBO is Clos closed contracts aren't available what it does is it comes down here on Monday on open and it says

here's your Buy on open so it said on open it's a buck six and then it said you know you probably get a $1.99 out of it the reality was 285 came out for 359 68% gain now if I click on the Market's

closed but if I click on this 1543 that was generated today right at The Bitter End that's where we're at now again sorry about the boxes that should be an arrow right there so it's pointing right here at that

low and what's happening is since it was right at the end there's still an issue with the Yahoo data so it doesn't have enough data points in front of it yet because way Yahoo works so that's why it's not populated the

actual at the present time so if we go into okay so here's another little issue so I just picked Airbnb so we'll go we're going to go back to the beginning so this is um the historical data is only started to be

collecting for the first couple of weeks now in the database so when we go back to Monday on 13th 20 23 you'll see that we have a signal here for 8 cents for a 5,662 per upside when I double click that it says no contract

data is available for the signal so when I first started this um process on the fractal servers I needed to bring over data from Yahoo and I was having a devil of a time with their processing and stuff so

there's a week in here where there's no data behind it because we have to store off the Yahoo data into our database so that first week is scratch and then when you get down into the next week here then then it's populated so it's

something to be aware of those first few days or or excuse me that first week there's not going to be any data behind it so let's check out our Amat trade and what is that that's December 5th at

12:27 so so far you know we had a buy at 27 it suggested had a high at 43 of [Music] 59.26% tomorrow cuz sometimes they're active on Fridays like you can have sideways action all through the week Monday through Thursday and then

Friday you can get some pops so up so sometimes that can be the case I think Rogue moose was talking about AMD yesterday that's what that looks like so that so AMD went from 42 cents to um 765 so out at 1,700 %

upside and again the reason for picking this contract was this outside gain at 43330 when you look above you do have quite a bit of time to get into it so it's not like it says buy to open at 42

cents and you've got the next 30 seconds to enter this trade otherwise it's going to leave you that's not how it works it says here's an entry and then there is usually time in front so you can get into the trade so here

since it was around what time was it 1504 eastern time these are all Easterns had about an hour to get into the trade 56 minutes so like let's say you checked it at you know 3:30 Eastern it's not

like the trade ran off and left you and you're like wow I just missed out on 1,700 % you can still some of these leisurely like stocks you like and still have time to get into them because that was 42 cents and you

can see here it just kind of went sideways a little bit looks like even probably went down a little bit lower than 42 cents for entry so there is time it's it's not like right then and there you have to

enter you have a little bit of time so you don't have to be too panicked about catching trades and again the reason this one was selected if you see in this list here at the top was 54.7 and under

155 so a lot of 100% plus TR uh plays potentially and then we had you know one for 223 so that one looked kind of interesting went to 571 the one that was really nice was that 43330 and I wasn't on yesterday

when Rog moose was looking at these contracts so I assume maybe he was looking at that one oh maybe not that was at 1504 he was looking at them earlier so he was probably looking at some of these up

here but again when I look at this I like to see these 400 700 500s a th000 like that cuz I mean you know 1,700 that's just gross that's just crazy look at am Amazon and again in here there's some other bells and

whistles I'll be bringing over I haven't put them in yet so you can actually do filters and say hey show me the you know 400% gainers show me the 500s 700s and then it'll pop them up in a list for you and

it'll scan through um so that'll be another Bell and whistle that I have that I'll bring over I'm trying to get the core of the fractal system built out bringing the core over because the code this is in it's radically different

than in visual studio so I have to like rewriting the thing um so's Amazon some nice upsides well so so upsides 206 yeah so something like this I don't know I would kind of be skipping this one cuz 100 200 well that's great

and everybody else would love that here it's not so interesting let's see if I go to goog so let's check out Google so Google the other day when I threw this one out this is more interesting so I

was looking at the December 5th at 10:06 this one because it was 609 and notice above here to on Monday we had some really high ones we had one in here for 2015 on Monday I happened to not check

goo I should have we had that 2015 well it went to 3,746 per. so you know that would have been a good one I mean even the one I ended up doing um at the 12:27 time excuse me the 10:06

time 106 this one I mean this one wasn't bad it had ultimately a 1462 per upside and um so on this one you know a th000 bucks in 37,000 out if you could hang on to it that long because it's

pretty eye popping so that is the basics right now now on the left okay so there's a data tab you can come in here and see the data that's coming in from Yahoo Yahoo has limitations but it is free since

it's in public domain the Open high and low and close are basically all the same value coming in from Yahoo so don't expect to see a high and a low and a close we can't it just comes in this way

and that's the way it is the volume does come in correctly so I can see volume on contracts the signal the system is in the back end that's running is creating the signal and the STC and there's various values that go

into them right here we're saying the word true as a bullan state so there's different things that go into that and the and that system generated on the back end as it's building this stuff out over here we have got a combo box

bullish bearish that's bias so you can just leave it on bullish if the market let's say it goes really bearish we're identifying like on a fractal we're like oh my God the thing May implode then you can go in there and

select beish like I think uh Rogue moose did that for beish now it takes a minute on the berish side and there's a reason for that um when I ported it over to our dat our fractal system we have running over Go

Daddy I forgot to bring over one of the columns and because of that I had to write a stored proc to make up for the lack of that column and that stor procedure you know it's taking like five

10 seconds 15 seconds to run to build up the necessary result set to get past to this so that's why um on the barrier side it takes it takes a few seconds to load because that column is missing I'm

going to go back and add that column I don't know why I missed it I should have but um so anyways I don't I didn't check Walmart to see what happened so if the Market's overall bearish like we're

seeing you know something happen like we're on Wave uh 100 on the indx or the Spy like maybe we're underneath pivot then you can go in here and pick the Barry side or you know if you just want to try to find where there's some

bearish plays for whatever reason you can do that too so on Tuesday we had one thrown out at 1280 12 181% on the Barry side in Walmart so far it's only moved 23810 per so here's another feature I tried as

best I can in the modeling the math modeling to have this thing try to find quality trade setups meaning that even if the trade doesn't exactly work out it will try its best to not have a lot of

failures so like you may not get, 181% but you know you may get a 100 or 200 or 300% out of it so that it's not you know know a total catastrophe and it doesn't totally wreck the contract but with that said this is the

real world so no matter how much math I do behind it you know when trading starts kind of like all bets are off but that's what it tries to do so even though here we didn't achieve the 1281

and maybe it does tomorrow or maybe it doesn't um at least there's something in there that can be taken off the table so it can be like wow this trade isn't working or you get to Friday and you know you still have residual money

in it so it's not a total wash doesn't happen all the time for everything but that's what it tries to do so like I say this thing is kind of built for a 12-year-old so somebody that really may not understand trading know

how to trade but they can do order execution and they can understand to go in here and to find the max t and that's the one they want to go after so it tries to take a massive experience

base and bring it to the front end very simply for people that you know like they're busy and they can't really get into the mechanics of trading you know because you have a job and you're maybe trying to get into trading or trying to

quit your job or whatever so it tries to make it fairly simplistic so that you know anybody can kind of pull it off because you can kind of come in here and you can see you know even on the berry side you

can see various outcomes so I don't really see anything that's zero yet you know so it's trying its best to keep the operator safe is best to can and to still have upside also another thing I don't really

adjust the screen so sorry if you can't sometimes see the top I you know this so anyways but it shows up down here this information here you'll see it says Source Yahoo Rose 257 signal count six the high the low the range

what that's telling you so when you see that see how it says Yahoo right now it just retrieved this data from Yahoo if I go back to last week see how it says source is Data Warehouse what it had to do was

um it took the data and stuffed it into our data warehouse for historical data because Yahoo they're always clearing out the data so you know we have to have historical data so that way we can go back and see how

it performed now remember I was cautioning you hey don't take you know if you're seeing these crazy gains like this usually it's because the contract's oriented wrongly even wrongly you can see there was 3 cents here 298 and it had a 1,

12333 per upside so still you know the system's like trying its best to have something come out so it's not a total wash so you know this kind of makes me look like I'm lying but you know what it is is it's like you

know if you're seeing overriding Target percent gains like this then you know it's kind of like a little bit of a pass here once again I mean you take a swing at it you can see here that looks like it washed out to a

penny and then it ran up I don't know if it had so that was Friday so it really didn't on Friday it really didn't like that idea of a penny because I'm looking over here on the BTO so it's not really throwing those out it

will throw them out sometimes sometimes it'll say it's a penny I'll say it's going to $2 so I didn't really want to suggest that so here it suggested 33 cents for a buck at a 203% upside the actual high was 205 so it

actually went up 521 per. so you can see even when you know there's possible orientation that may be a little bit weird um it'll still you know try to do something I don't know on the call side on this one

but let's see and then of course going Saturday Sunday it's throwing stuff out so to my point see how we're at 1042 and this trade worked now we're at 11:55 and it's saying there's a 37.2% targeted game naturalized 205 for a 12.02 so to my

point once we get around 12:00 we're starting to run out of time so these trades you can see here there's just such a short duration between 12 and close that you know once we get at that point you know earlier on

ear 12 and earlier like 1042 you know yeah that worked out great so if you're looking on Friday like you know you know what crazy upside can I have just you know try to do it earlier than later you

know ear like 10 a good time maybe early 11 o'clock so let's see oxy um so anyways so the source is data warehouse and it tells the number of rows and this is a number of rows that are

returned so on oxy it's saying that there 600 oh wait excuse me I think Rose excuse me Rose is actually regarding the data I think so it's that many uh data points that returned from Yahoo sorry and the

signal count p58 there's 15 of them so it generated 15 here for that expiration and then the high and the low on the contract is tracked that shows the range and then that shows the percentage of range from the low to the

high Soh it's pretty much about it I don't know if there's any questions yeah I was just um wondering when it's going to be released to all of us you know it's going to be here pretty soon probably in a week or so I need to

fix that an issue on the database side that missing column because if a lot of people are using it and they pick bearish it's going to put kind of a load on the server so it's probably about a week or

so and in the meantime you know Rogue moose he's I think he you know probably daily can go through it and find stuff okay thank you yeah I mean I don't I wouldn't call this a holy grill or

anything but it does have some crazy results and then we got one other person that wants to speak I'll invite him up hi hello hi how's it going doing good um I just had a question about like so when

you're entering these plays do you have like a stop loss like minus 20% or do you let it go to like zero right so these contracts as you know they're really volatile and in back testing so I've done a lot of back testing and stuff I

found no really good strategy for stop stop losses you know if you if you set it at 50% you know that's a place you can go it can knock your stop out and then still achieve the X expectations so the idea with this is

when we have higher leverage plays like the goog and stuff that they're so cheap that um you know when you risk some money if they did go to it wouldn't hurt you too bad because of the cost the

problem with the stops is like let's say you put in a stop and it's a multi-day swing like let's say Google let's say you know we're in at 22 cents we're like oh my God we put you know 200 bucks in it we

don't want to lose it so you set your stop at what 10 cents and then the next day your stops hit you're knocked out and then it turns and runs you know it's like because a lot of the times I see on the internet and

stuff it's really weird people will be like okay I'm doing a 460 call so you have 460 bucks in one call and you're trying to have a target of $5.3 to I mean to me that's like a little

crazy because you got 460 bucks on the table you know one contract for 5302 upside you know so so this system is like trying to do something different it comes in here and it says you know let me find where

there's a lot of Leverage and let me find where that's cheap leverage you know so I yeah it doesn't I just can't yeah I can't really answer the stop side it's you know if you got 100 bucks in there

and you can't afford to lose more than 50 of it I guess you put in a stop then overnight maybe you know it's opens up at a penny ask and zero on the mid I don't know yeah that makes

sense yeah it's it's positive intent on this it's I don't know I you know I joined a lot of other things like there's schafers and there's a trade algo and I'm always checking out other other people's systems and you know some

people are like oh we set our stop at 50% and but then like trade algo I'm always getting text messages from him oh look at Bob he just won 50% Joe run Joe won 75% maybe they'll have a 200% play you

know and like this week that's not what we've been experiencing you know we had two plays already hit 12 you know, 1200% that AMD that you know it had that one was 1700% you know it's like if you get

knocked out of a few trades they go to zero but you're you know taking out 700% 1,000% you know ABNB two weeks ago it went 5,000% you know it's like yeah so you kind of have to and the thing is when you do this you

always want more it's like mags was mentioning she goes this is like crack so you know you get a th% play you're like well that that was great but you know I need more of that on even higher percent return it's hard

to then you don't and then some of these you know you're like well I shouldn't put in a thousand but I will and then it goes bad but you know maybe you're expecting a th000 or 2,000% on it so really it's your risk you know the

Kelly criterion's 2% of account roughly a little over 2% in any any single trade and you know you can see here on the when you when you double click this stuff you'll see it back testing itself so you know you kind of have an

idea like as I click if if you guys can see it kind of have an idea of what's happening and just like you were just talking about Russell maximizing your risk to reward you know like if we're on

a normal contract that it's identifying you know say 2,000% you know you if you hit on one of 20 and 20 lose I mean you're essentially breaking even so you know you're playing the RIS reward ratios yeah yeah definitely and and this

week so far we've seen that you know yeah Google this yeah Google's what 2% apple 1700% plus all the other ones I mean yeah yeah it's just phenomenal it's like astounding it's just like you're like wow you know I think a couple people had

questions in the side chat there if you look in the chat bubble um a couple of them were asking you know how do you identify a good setup and I think part of the system is designated to ident ify

the most highly probable setups am I correct yeah it is so when it's showing like Airbnb here when I'm checking the signals like I come in here through the day and I'll check them see how it shows this one's 1152

per. that's the one I want to go after you know we've got a 41 a 49 a 76 is 71 and that's great I mean nothing wrong with that too there's nothing wrong with making 70% 80% 107% 203% but what I like like the AMD play

that one had so when you're trying to identify the trades like let's say you come into AMD let say you're at work and you're like well you know it's around 3:30 market closes in 30 minutes it's let me

click on a few tickers I like so just to keep it simple you're like you know I like Apple AMD goog can't remember if Tesla's in here I think so yeah Tesla's in here so you're like you know I like couple of those stocks

for whatever reason so you come in here it's you know so this one happened at 304 p.m. but let's say you check it at 3:30 and you come in here and at 3:30 and you're like okay I had to signal at

3:04 p.m. and it's for 433.92 you double click it you'll see some data because there's a 10-minute lag but by then from 304 the data is filling in like I like that idea so you're going around 42 cents well you

know today it hit 765 for 17 121% upside at the close so we're just looking at signals that are we're looking at the Target percent gain that are outsized they're bigger than what we're seeing around us so at this point in

time if this was at the bottom here right since we're at 3:30 we're looking back on a 1504 or 304 signal so it'll be at the bottom so when I look up I'm seeing 167 70 126 159 183 and I look at this one

and say oh wow 43330 that's a lot better than all the other ones above it it's just an identification model it's like trying to find where the system thinks there's an outsized gain a gain larger than normal so if I'm looking above I'm seeing you

know normal seems like a 145 183 200 someone there is a kind of a normal game and that's fine but I'm like I I want to kind of see something that's bigger than that you know 400 33 is

bigger that I would have I did not check AMD yesterday but that one I would have keyed in on i' have been like oh 433 I like that idea so you know again 42 cents so a $42 contract going to

$765 for that 17 21% gain and again you can see up here on the price data that it was around you know the 42 cents was here so it was kind of around the 40 Cent area through the

close so we're trying to identify what what is a bigger gain than normal and the way I like to do that I like to present it to myself like this because I just like to look through again like if we go to goog that

was another one we traded so we see the systems working so again goog when I came in here on Tuesday and I looked at the 106 time frame I saw the 69% right above I didn't check this Monday but

right above it I saw some 2000s some 1210s I'm like okay that that looks pretty interesting so that's why I sent this out I'm like okay we have this potential and you can see how it just I mean you know thing knocks it out of the

park you know we have on Monday around noon we had that 10 cent contract go to $340 so 33 100% upside I think that was a question looking oh oh how how to identify which ones to key in

on yeah so that's identified I just look at gains in here like if I go to Ford so I look at Ford and I'm like oh you know what normally the gains are 96 93% 38% over the weekend on Sunday and

then I see this one at 10950 and I'm like huh that looks kind of interesting so I click on it the actual gain was 90.48% so that's what I'm doing I'm the system is throwing out different combinations that it

believes are possible with the target percent gain because you know when you're trading you want to try to maximize risk to reward right so you don't if there's a contract that has a 5% upside you're like well why do I want to put

money on the table for only 5% you know so it's like it's like if you had a choice of different upsides you always want to try to pick the higher upside and since the contracts are vast you know there's a lot of depth to

them this is trying to orient you into the higher paying contracts and again let's say it's not mistake but let's say you come in here and you're like oh I like 95.5% I could live with that so you click

it and it so far has only run to 81.82% I mean it's so maybe you consider that a mistake like oh my God I should have picked the 110% to get another 20 I mean you're still ahead in the money so it's

not like the system's trying to figure out these combinations that are viable that can work so it's not like you're blindly going into contracts thinking well I hope and pray that this one's going to work it's running a bunch of math to try

to figure it out you know to try to try to keep the you know speculative Capital safe because this a speculation on these so it's trying to keep it as safe as possible as mathematically possible possible so that you know when you do

come in here and you do ab buy that you can have an out you know because I know like you guys are in mil's thing and that's always the thing right you're trying to position so you can have an out so you

can have a positive out so you're not trapped you get trapped you know that's kind of scary because you know maybe you're starting out you have small investment capital and you're trapped time and time time again and that trapping causes you to

take a loss you know and you you just so this is trying to figure stuff out so you don't do that so even if you come in here and you pick a meager contract and maybe meager 73.5% and you know it only ran to

17.65 we you can see over here where it picked it it was kind of near a top when it kind of suggested that there may be some action in it but the good thing is forward looking it did get above that so you know you were

trapped so after you got in maybe you're trapped through this cycle but you know it lifted and there is an out you know to try to escape that so it you know again it's you know and it's throwing out things I'll go

back to Apple because this was a real one we did you know when I'm looking at the Target gain so coming out of the weekend Sunday again it had these contracts and it was saying you an 87.7% upside so even if you picked a contract

generated Sunday at the end it was over here so it's still had a 359.06 upside even coming out of Sunday if you bought it at the open and you you can see we're trapped for a few minutes here during the day so we have

the 6 and 1 half hours I had to live through but then we had that explosion up so you know it's again it's trying to find contracts it's trying to pair all this stuff up and present it so you can

make a decision it's a decision support system so you can come in here and be like I you know I like the 727 per upside low risk 22 cents I could buy one contract like hyen Ken he's trying to make $10,000 out of a couple

hundred bucks very possible have to be super careful super selective it's like Rog moose was saying the other day was mentioning he was talking to the 70-year old guy like how do you survive in this business he goes

well I don't I don't take bad setups I only take good trade setups so this is trying to present the good trade setups and trying to present them in a way that it makes it easier for decision support so you're not looking at the

chain being like Oh my God I don't know can it hit the $40 call the $10 put you know it's like on the strikes it's like you you're trying to figure it out like I don't know maybe it can

hit um this is trying to figure that out for you ahead of time it's like here's some options and then you you know you I like to pick the higher targets so when I look up here I like to look to the back a little

bit see what's higher 727 is certainly higher than these I'm like I'll take a shot at that you know it's only 22 bucks on the line or maybe you buy 10 or two five you know but it's low risk High

reward and milk was saying I mean maybe you know you do several of these you have one lose two lose but you have three work out you know and it's simple math if you know if you have a 727 per

upside sure you can have a couple of them lose like this week you know cat wasn't that great and I knew it wasn't that great I could tell but I threw it out there anyways you know it had 100

and something per upside but we had apple on Monday you know which was the 1195 that it got to but the calculated gain was 727 so he had Apple so it had a 727 per upside at that entry at the 22 cents we

had goog which was another big one you know just those two alone if there was a couple other losses in there I I mean these just totally offset the losses you know so it's main thing is risk management you know if you come in

here and you're like hen Ken let's say he's like I got to make 10,000 by Christmas you know 200 that's 200 bucks he's like oh my God only way this is going to work is for me to put my 200

into here and to make some 727 and then to take those wins and dump them all into something else right that's probably not the best strategy you can get lucky like I was showing I was calling it The Wild catting as they use that in

drilling so it's like if you take you know money and you dump it into something all your portfolio and then you take that win if you have one and dump it into the next one sooner or later you're going to hit

one that's not not going to work and probably that one's going to lose everything so here it's you can try to put a stop loss again at 22 cents and you could be like well I'll put it at

50% see so you know you're you're risking 22 bucks to save $12 or save $11 or save $9 I don't I don't know my wife and I go to McDonald's and you know we spent 23 bucks and then we're hungry again you

know a couple hours later so you know are you better off saying okay I'll do the 22 now you know it's either I'll take it to the Target or maybe I won't get Target but I'll at least get something above the 22

out you know versus I know on the internet they preach stoploss and Futures is a whole other thing like when you guys when milk showing you guys how to trade and what he's doing it's a whole other ball of wax your account's

open so you could really you know if you don't have stop losses and stuff in Futures that's a whole other ball of wax trading here it's to find risk you can't lose any more in the 22 bucks so if you go into that trade and

you don't have a stop loss you lose 22 bucks well you know where else you're going to you know you're going to try to salvage $10 or $5 and maybe have the trade work out out because in back

testing this stuff it doesn't back test so well sometimes these things will go to a penny and they still work out and it's hard to have a finite level for a stop you know they they already are defined risk it's

22 so lose any more than 22 bucks and Futures when you open your account up and you join all bets are off I mean you know you can lose a lot of money fast here it's like you lose 22

so you know in a sense and that's why the prop thing is so great right you put a small amount in the prop thing you're Leever leveraging a larger amount of money here it's kind of the same deal

small amount Leever leveraging a larger amount of money so you know you kind of let we're we're trying to get the leverage to work for us and we're not trying to really be cognizant of a stop and try to salvage you know 10 bucks or

11 or 12 bucks out of a $22 trade you know because in here it throws out like a $228 C trade nothing wrong with that so for 228 for 228 yeah probably there you'd want to try to have some

form of a stop you know but I wouldn't really even take that trade because it only has a Target gain of 41% and the actual is 25 I mean I want to take these 500 400 1,000% potential trades I don't really want to take these

higher cost trades or you know this 41% it just doesn't make any mathematical sense especially when the system sitting up here spitting out at 727 for 22 bucks I mean I mean that's almost 10 I could go 10 times this for

what I can of one of these at 228 so if I go 10 contracts here I'm at 220 bucks plus commission and here I'm at 228 plus commission I mean it just it just makes sense to go into this stuff and let our leverage

work versus trying to knock out 41% and it only ran to 25 adjust so we want the math to work for us going to take these trades that are cheaper with higher upside potential and I just like skipping this

other stuff so nothing wrong with it but it's just you know you're getting more money on the line for a lower upside so it you know in the reward to risk model are I was talking about one: one one to

two here it's like a one to S right 22 bucks it's a buck 82 so you know like 727 per it's for every Buck you know you're getting seven bucks back out so favorable we had another question to

Russell so they kind of wanted to know some of the stats on the system I know on what you called out personally was roughly a 90% sucess ESS rate this week including what moose pointed out but I know there's additional contracts in the

system that isolates so I think we talk discussed about tracking those stats in the data warehouse moving forward yeah yeah we can as the data warehouse gets built up we'll keep stats up here and you have to so when I first

started trading Futures so I came from a farming family we're always selling Futures right we were the Riders of the Futures so people were buying for wheat and sugar and cotton but anyways when I started trading Futures I started trading oil and gold

and silver and live cattle coffee and orange juice Commodities I was at a a company called compact trading they were out of Phoenix they moan sorry is over in California right now and he was telling the story of so

this was like 85 86 when I started trading and he was always he had this radio program he would come on daily and it's called Market rap and you talk about stuff and he would say when he first started trading he was like you

know what I hired a bunch of programmers and we tried to back test everything we could and he said he goes goes you know what after spending hundreds of thousands of dollars over the course of a couple years I threw it out the window

and was like I can't back test my way to profits it's impossible to back test the way to profits you know so he you know and when I heard that and I had talked to the guy a little bit super smart guy very good

at commodity trading like and at that point you know he's programming right was using graph in the box and doing some back testing and stuff and I was like yeah I arrived at the same conclusion if you go

onora there's guys in there that have like I've been bag testing for the last 25 and they're always trying to refine the system right turn the dials and knobs and switch the levers and stuff they're like and they finally get to a

point after all that you know decades wow it doesn't work to back test that's my experience as well well it looks goodes looks good I know you can offer up all kinds of back testing be like look how good that worked 100%

win rate 90% 50% it just doesn't doesn't work this thing is forward looking and it's just like like I know you guys do milk and your thing you know you're looking at your order flow coming in order blocks and stuff

and that's just how you got to do it you just got to yep real time data and forward looking you you have to yeah you have to because this inform the information yesterday is gone I mean whatever the market did

yesterday fine what's it going to do tomorrow that's the question you know yep and can you Orient yourself to take advantage of that you know preposition yourself to have that potential upside it's what it's all about and we saw this week the

thing was figuring it out you know however it figures it out it it it does all that so and it tries to present it like Rog moose so Rogue moose it's kind of a testament right yesterday I think

was the first day he showed it uh so that was his exposure to it yesterday and I think already was catching trades off of it you know so then just kind of opened it up tooling through it you know know

really no explanation just oh look at this look at that so it's just you know just trying to be very simple with what it does but yeah we'll we can produce stats and stuff and for all it's worth and then I think one of the other

um projects that we'll have eventually he want we get all the data management stuff done is having some automation with alerts in a channel I know some people asked about that so that is something in the foreseeable future but

we're just continually working on improvements definitely yeah milk Myself And Rog moose were working together on and all this stuff to try to you know continue to expand it and I think we got a few few people who raise their hands too if if you

still have some time Russell uh yeah yeah if you more minutes as Point okay I think ikio I'll bite him up real quick Overlord yeah uh so the question I had related to the way in which um data gets

handled so when you pull down the options and then it resets what the highest rate that was um reached as far as the price point on the option does it just reset the calc based off when it hits a new high and then only maintains

whatever the new high is or do you log over time what the price action was that varied yeah so in this list box we have in front of us if you can see it I'm understanding some people can't see it

yeah I can't see anything oh okay yeah when you see it it starts to make a lot of sense but so what it does after signal generation it pins to the high the highest high moving forward and what good that is yeah

that's just something the way I like to see it because I want to click in my list there and I want to see all my highs you know so I can be like mentally because like it's a psychological game

right so I can see that okay on the past few signals I you know had a target of 94% 74% 77 41% the reality was I only had 25 55 56% 72 2% so mentally I can be prepared I can be like you know what if

I'm not liking this trade and I'm wanting to move on from it I can be getting 50% I'm getting 75% so when I'm actually watching my trade screen I can be like you know what I'm going to take it off

here so you know it pins to the Past highs in that frame on that signal so it's pinning to the Past high so I have an idea visually and mentally what it's been achieving so so you have that and then you have a

Target percent gain where you're like you know what maybe I'll take out 50% here and I'll let the less the remainder run and try to hit my target you know so it's it's kind of how so it's a comfort level it's like are

you comfortable letting the thing try to figure out and get to the Target gain or you know do you want to try to just get a quick hit and be like I know it CHS a 100000% upside or 700 I don't care I

have 50 in hand and I want to take that [Music] um yeah so it is pinning your point to the high the highest high moving forward you know and it's visually showing it on the screen so you have a reference

point I was sort of wondering as well when open interest comes in at the beginning of the week and when that further out in the money open interest increases um as the price accelerates is there a multiplication Factor when you

know market makers are forced to Delta hedge and is there a way of like perceiving an acceleration in like the momentum of that over the course of a week so yeah um so the people that deal with the Greeks I don't use

Greeks um this has nothing to do with any of that it's has its own logarithms I've developed over the years that are not using any Greek information so it's not using any of that stuff to achieve this because and there's a reason behind

yeah and there's a reason behind it because with that information you know you saw Apple you saw goo AMD was kind of crazy um so the reason I don't use that is I can't derive what I need to from that

data those Greeks are all broker dependent there's no institution out there providing you know the Greek data to the market from a centralized Hub the Brokers are developing that information and this is using the chain and examining the

chain and it it's based on the market maker stuff that we'll see in the um you know in the system and so it's artificially under the covers moving things around and if if you want to equate it to Greeks you

can for kind of a better visual or understanding but under the covers it's playing chess a form of chess with the mark getting the options and it's moving them all around so it's you know literally I'm not kidding when I say it

it may take a th000 2,000 10,000 20,000 calculations on one chain for un one underlying instrument so it you know moves everything around that's why I could identify Google I could identify Apple know AMD it's like hey this can have

some upside to it that's outrageous upside yeah I was asking oh sorry I was asking sort of from the standpoint of options inflow causing price action to be modified by the ever increasing um Delta exposure market makers would have to it

potentially on a move and so really wondering you know where how like some sites will track unusual options inflows and then especially the leverage scenario of the out of the monies you know as they begin to move closer and

closer in the money their ability to accelerate price action whether or not there's a way of like gauging the momentum impact of an increase in uh open op options interest as it would relate to like when we open this

position and the signal and then as like a confirmation value so it's like should I sell it now at 200 well I'm seeing that the inflows into the options are increasing so there's a higher probability that it's actually going to

hit our th% number rather than me getting excited about a 200% move and exiting prematurely because on the back end we've been logging the open interest from initial position and we're seeing now all this option flow entering into

it to corroborate the move yeah there's there's two scenarios there I mean one is potential IV which could inflate that price to our price Target faster you know from your initial intake now if you're looking for greater like what we call Gam exposure you know

dealer exposure as a lot of the other public knows you would have to be looking at a very liquid ETF or ticker and with a massive amount of positioning like if you're looking at SPX or apple or something you're looking at you know

hundreds of millions of dollars to offset that kind of dealer positioning most of the stuff that we're going to be doing other than very ill liquid tickers it's not going to have that much of an effect at first okay thank you yeah like AB

andb that's so thinly traded you know trying to apply Greeks to it are just like you know so you know as far as I know you know there's all these things out there black box and all this stuff right

they're using the Greeks and they talk all this stuff but um you know I don't and I don't know anything about it I've never used them but those products all seem kind of immature like they seem like the the maturity on top of those

they need another five or 10 years and they need to hire some more people that are maybe a little more experienced you know so I don't know you know because for a lot of things like get so many

newsletters you know they just it's like people can't root out stuff that can move that I've seen very well you know so I don't know but this is just totally like I was saying it it's not even using

open interest doesn't even go there uh open interest it's fine but it doesn't doesn't even rely on that that's that's the the open interest problem there is it's still it's static right the open interest it's computed before the session and you don't know

anything about it throughout the day so it's just to me it open interest I do use it you know we have that um strike command and you can go into the system you can see where your open interest is

lying and stuff but for a real time tool it's not I just it can't be used I don't use it it doesn't go into any calculations on this well I have one question and I don't know if you would know but on toss

when it represents the open interest in contracts when you're looking at it does that represent the open interest as of the prior day or is that within the current time frame of your session so the CBOE publishes that prior

to the session opening so you're getting a static picture or something okay that's why like on those GS yeah you know the gex stuff it's great and everything great but you know it's like they'll take the oi and then

they'll try to add in volume and and they have a bunch of w Witchcraft and voodoo on top of that and that's fine all I care is I want to find a contract it's G to make me a th% 700%

2,000% that's what I'm about I don't all this other stuff I don't really you know get get into because I just you know I don't want to rely on somebody else is Greek calculations I do my own stuff so I know

exactly what that number is how it's derived and um you know because I need stuff that's actionable you know I and I want to make sure when I'm you know developing signals and stuff that it can be actionable and it can work so you know

there's a like um polygon I use polygon's data polygon Io if you go there they started bringing in option contracts and they actually have out on the website somewhere I read it one day but they talk about Computing the Greeks

how they were having all these problems with Computing the Greeks and they didn't understand that with every contract there's arbitration that can happen between the contracts because you can never truly have the contracts that are all flat it can't happen so they were saying

oh my God you know this contract's always coming out with a 5cent profit or this one with a one penny profit or we can't ever seem to figure that out and it's because of the way it you can't

develop so so their Greeks they provide are you know what they've cobbled together right polygon I'm not ripping on them I mean that's just how you do it you know a lot of people use black shols and reverse out for the variables you

know which is fine but I just you know this system the stuff milk rug moose and I work on for this at least it you know it's it's based on things you know you you see in milk sessions you know very good very

accurate you know because of the way everything is being approached you know and I know milk you know he'll talk about the exposure and stuff in there and and this is doing things just diff differently to achieve the results it

needs to to you know try to knock contracts out of the park you know and the thing you know it's a testament like this week things thrown out they're kind of moving and you know we want this thing to

outperform what the target percent gain is you know ideally we want icing on the cake you know if it going 50% or 100 200 you know we wanted to outperform that and overshoot the target ideally it's not always going to do that

but you know that's what we're trying to shoot for you know we don't don't want to spend all our lives trying to invest in knock out 5% right want to have some meaning meaningful upside that's lifechanging so all right I'm done with my questions

thank you for your time you're welcome um I had two questions um so I was watching Rog moose the other day actually no it was today sorry and he was showing both the bullish bearish sides of the Periscope

and sometimes there was a a high percentage on both sides to be gained even when earnings weren't in play is that still something you would suggest playing and how would you choose a side would you just play both yes yeah I

know what you're saying because sometimes you'll come in and be like my God it's 4,000% on the short side and 4,000 on the long side I could probably knock out both sides for 8,000 that gain but so what it's doing is when you see

these astronomical values on both sides like maybe it's you know 9,000 per or you know 6000% it's it's basically saying that you know you're probably going to be somewhere in the middle you're not neither one of those sides is really

going to be that workable when you come in you want to see stuff that's more like what's on the screen here that looks more now I call this normal a lot of people come and be like well that's not

normal it's on 227% 2200 per but it's showing like tapered results you know it's not all flatlining it's not all like hey here's 4,000% across the board I think like was it the other day rogus he was showing was it

ba so I think it was ba so here I've got ba on the bullly side 39% 40 33 34 15 so you could look at that and say yeah that looks you know kind of normal when I scroll up I'm like yeah looks

like everything's driving the only weird one was we've got an 8,588 per 9 cents to 782 but you know it's kind of like everything looks like it's driving in here now let me go to the bearish side of

ba8 it's going to take a second because of that column I need to add to the table it's taking quite a bit of time all right so when I fli to be and I think this was a question Rog

moad on different parts of the system like mil rug moose myself we kind of have different areas we're kind of focusing on uh so rogus you know and him and I are working together he's um working working on the mbot side we're

inter we're connecting our two sides together to get information out through those mbot commands but at any rate so when he came in here he was mentioning he's like hey what do you think about this and I was like well you know

whenever we're seeing this to take because you can look down that Target percent gain and it's astronomical and it's pretty solid going up and down the only one that's not is a 673 but since everything else in here looks

like that it's a visual Q tonight I wouldn't entertain doing the put side at all I mean it's great it's thrown out 9000% you know 3,000% 4,000 so when I see that I I mention um you know immediately switch

bullish by definition the markets are tuned to the long side overall so that's why when you come in here it always picks the bullish Side by default it's just because the market overall it's an instrument that you know

works with inflation you know there's a lot of 401K money that comes into it um you know it's just a a biased system to the long side overall so it's always picking bullish by default now in the fractal maybe at one

point on Wave a 100 daily we get something that's underneath the pivot we're like Oh Boy the whole Market's just short for an unknown amount of time maybe at that point we come in here and start to pick you know bearish on a lot

of stuff but overall the market you know through Eddie and flow is tuned to the bullish side so that's why it comes in here and it you know defaults to bullish um there is an auto too that I haven't

added that's in the system and the auto kind of tries to figure out which side so when you pick Auto it's it's not in here right now because I just trying to get the basics going but when you pick Auto

then it just tries to you know keep you calibrated to what it thinks the overall Market's doing but bullish by and large is just you know the overall direction cuz even in a falling Market when you pick bullish um you know you'll have those

pops here and there okay thank you for that um yeah I did have another question uh currently for the tickers you do have to manually refresh everyone in order to see the results is that something that be automated once more

servers were allocated yeah so so you're saying over here like when I click Baba yeah you have to results yeah you've got to click the ticker um there's a bell and whistle that I need to bring into it that you

can tell it to search for outsized um gains outsized targets so you can tell it to search for you know 400% 1,000% gains I just haven't brought it over yet I was just you know trying to get the

basics up and running so so that it's available for everybody to use um but I'll you know eventually we'll get that in there so you can hit a key or whatever and be like hey show me my 600% possibilities show

me my 400% possibilities and it'll automatically do that so you don't you know cuz this is oriented right now the way it's set up um to to you know clicking on specific tickers right symbols but some people like like some people I don't know they

just like to trade Tesla you know what I'm saying so it's like some people just go down to Tesla but if the person's agnostic they don't really care what they trade They just won gains then that bill and whistle where you can tell it

hey show me 300 400 500% gains comes in handy then you don't have to weed through them you know to try to find some of these okay and uh just back to the first question real quick so for those sides

which are those High percentages You' more likely suggest not playing them at all just to confirm I would not when I come into ba so I'll go back to ba here so when I look at boing and I see that we're kind of like

solidly in you know quadruple digit percentage gains I tend to skip over those so I got boing up here and you can see we've got 9,942 at the top 9,8 9,6 9,916 7950 so we've got really high gains

you know that are targets so I look at this and I'm like probably not going to happen so I'm not going to bother with this because to me I look at that and I'm like these are just baited contracts

we're just trying to get people to buy them they've priced them such that they're just trying to get people to go into them now if I click into one on Monday let's say I go into the 7 Cent

one maybe it could prove me wrong but it had no higher high than on the signal day and in fact now we're down here to a penny so yeah when you're seeing stuff like this you know and you're asking about

playing them so this one's proving me wrong making a liar out of me there was one that was at 6 cents I had to sell a close at 589 it actually went to 19 cents so it had a 216% upside

but by and large I you know so maybe maybe you do pick berish or maybe you're like oh well it's 6 cents I'll just try it for fun you know you know it's making me look stupid because this one's 900% so but by and

large I typically try to stay away from this stuff when I see the these outrageous moves on Thursday you know boying it did get some crazy upside on the on these puts but we had one that went 1,200% but

by and large I just when I'm seeing a solid thing like this I usually just kind of skip over them you know the six cent plays 4 Cent plays I guess you know if you were fast it executes on this stuff you know we

had this 4 Cent go to 40 900% upside 6 Cent go to 83 cents 1200% upside so some of these were even working out even with what I'm saying about this crazy upside but I kind of tend to skip

over them but you know if you're I guess if you're feeling saucy and like you know I'll give it a shot anyways you know these would have some of these would have worked out some of these had some really crazy upside they were just

spikes just briefly very brief but if you know if you're able to sit in front of the Monitor and watch these you see these spikes in them got you that's it for now yeah I mean that was yeah I mean that was 6

cents to 83 cents I mean you know even 60 Tim contract 60 buck in that 60 bucks in that