Ex-Google Exec: How to Position Yourself Now Before the… — Transcript

Mo Gawdat, ex-Google Exec, discusses how to prepare for AI-driven job market shifts and economic changes by 2027 and beyond.

Key Takeaways

  • AI will drastically transform the job market within the next few years, displacing many traditional roles.
  • Economic systems and capitalism will need to evolve to address AI-driven productivity and unemployment.
  • Power and influence will increasingly concentrate among AI platform owners and innovators.
  • Human connection and reality perception are being reshaped by AI-generated content and virtual interactions.
  • Accountability in the AI era is crucial to prevent misuse and ensure responsible innovation.

Summary

  • Mo Gawdat, former Chief Business Officer at Google X, highlights the rapid acceleration of AI innovation and its impact on society.
  • He explains that AI is now capable of building AI and driving scientific discoveries beyond human capabilities.
  • A massive job market shift is expected within 2-3 years, with AI replacing many human tasks and jobs.
  • This shift will lead to a redefinition of economics, capitalism, jobs, earnings, and the need for new economic theories.
  • Gawdat introduces the FACE RIPs framework, covering seven dimensions: power & freedom, reality & connection, innovation & economics, and accountability.
  • He warns of a potential 12-15 years of 'hell before heaven' starting around 2027, marked by social and economic upheaval.
  • The concentration of AI power will create new forms of influence and inequality, similar to past historical power shifts.
  • AI-generated content and virtual relationships challenge traditional notions of reality and human connection.
  • Accountability is a critical issue as AI and influencers operate in a largely unregulated environment.
  • Gawdat urges individuals to learn new skills and prepare proactively for the upcoming AI-driven transformations.

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my AI startup took me six weeks to build.
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If I had started in 2022, it would have taken me four years.
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And when you really think about that, that basically means everyone now has a chance.
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This is Mo.
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Former Chief Business Officer at Google X, where he spent over a decade running business innovations.
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He says everyone now has a chance, but only if they understand what's actually coming.
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the skill of an entrepreneur in the past.
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was the ability to foresee something in the future that no one else saw.
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and to prepare for that, that's a game of chess is over.
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It's off the table, this has turned into squash.
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I'm just basically saying get prepared.
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How much time do we have to prepare?
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within the next two to three years, you're going to see a massive shift in the jobs market.
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So you asked me what should we do?
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Number one, learn the skills.
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Number two,
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Well, thank you so much for joining us, welcome to Silicon Valley Girl.
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Thank you.
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You said something that we're about to enter what you call 12 to 15 years of hell before heaven, possibly starting in 2027, so what's going to happen in 2027?
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I think it will peak in 2027, it already started for sure.
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I call it FACE RIPs, just as a an acronym for people to remember, uh, you know, each of those letters is a word, but let me tell tell the story quickly in in ways that people will understand.
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Uh, there is the power and freedom, uh, dimension, uh, so the P and the F, uh, there is the R and the C, the reality and connection dimension, uh, there is the uh, I and the C, the innovation and connection and and sorry and um and economics dimension, and then there is the A, so let me tell them very quickly.
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To start with, uh, AI is our last innovation.
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Right, uh, most people don't know that, but we are already building AIs that are building AIs.
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We're building AIs that are discovering scientific discovery that will blow you away.
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They're reinventing math, they're understanding biology in ways that we've never seen before.
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They're understanding material science in ways that are just mind-blowing.
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And so very quickly, uh, most innovation, definitely tech innovation,
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will be done at the hands of AI.
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Uh, because of that, and because most tasks that need intelligence will be handed over to the machines.
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As the machines' capabilities, uh, increase.
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Lots of debate around when exactly, say it's 10 years, say it's two years, doesn't really matter.
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Uh, eventually every job that AI does better than humans will be handed over to AI.
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Um, and every every task we've ever assigned to them, they eventually ended up doing better than humans.
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And so, um, the first part of the dystopia is that innovation
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is going to take away all jobs.
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Okay, of course, the capitalists of Silicon Valley will tell you this is great.
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It's incredible productivity gains for everyone.
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Uh, you know, you see jobs will be easy, uh, people won't have to work as hard.
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All of the fancy PR led, uh, uh, you know, conversations that we try to appear, uh, altruistic when we share them.
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The truth is, people will be out of jobs.
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Right, 10, 20, 30% of certain sectors will see unemployment of that rate in the next few years.
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Right, and when that happens, economics at large will change massively.
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The whole definition of capitalism was labor arbitrage.
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And without labor, uh, you know, without the need for labor,
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the obligation or or the need to keep people happy and engaged and alive and disgruntled if you want.
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to the point where they don't rise.
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becomes more of an obligation than a desire.
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Right, there is a very big difference in, you know, in terms of wanting someone to to be the their best.
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because they are productive members of society.
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Or trying to just give them a UBI, a universal basic income.
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to just give them a life so that they don't uprise.
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And you can imagine that in a capitalist society, especially like the US, and most of the West,
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you know, while we start with UBI, that UBI is going to be paid by the taxes of the platform owners.
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And the platform owners will have enough power to to say I don't want to pay that much.
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I mean, those guys are not producing anything.
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And so over time, you can imagine how that would turn into a struggle.
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Right, so so that dimension of intelligence and innovation on one side.
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becoming entirely a machine thing.
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leading to a redefinition of economics, a redefinition of money, a redefinition of jobs, a redefinition of earnings.
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Uh, redefinition of capitalism.
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You know, the need for a new economic theory when there is no, um, demand for the supply that AI is generating.
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All of that has to be rethought.
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There is the PF, uh, dimension, the power freedom dimension.
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And and it's of course very clearly understood.
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that if you look at human history, the best hunter in a tribe would have been able to feed the tribe a week more.
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Let's say, and then, you know,
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got as a result of that the favor of a few mates in the tribe.
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Uh, you go to the best farmer, they got estates and land.
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because they could feed the tribe a season more.
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Uh, you go to the best industrial industrialist, you you know, they had the exuberance of the 1920s.
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because they could affect their entire nation.
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The, you know, the information technology, uh, tycoons, the the tech oligarchs, if you want to call them.
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are now being rewarded with billions of dollars.
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because they affect the world at large.
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And, you know, the the big power concentration of AI.
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is going to be rewarded with massive influence and massive power.
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because those people will redefine humanity.
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And so that dimension is quite interesting.
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Of course, the clear dimension is the, you know, the the RC dimension is the the reality to connection dimension.
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Now that reality has become so fake in so many ways.
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Fake in terms of what populates your feed, how it's generated.
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How much of it is real, how much of it is human.
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And so on, you know, you're you're here to to look at some filmmakers.
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that use AI from A to Z to to create.
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And it's crazy and you can't sometimes you forget.
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You cannot tell the difference.
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You can't tell the difference.
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And and, you know, you I I don't know if you've ever had that experience.
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But I met a woman once on a dating app and we spoke for six weeks before we met.
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And all we exchanged was texts and, you know, photos and voice messages and videos.
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And so on, and favorite music and favorite movies and all of those things.
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And I've never met her in person and I felt such an affinity to her.
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Right, all of those can be generated with AI today.
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Yeah.
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Now, the the challenge is that this human connection
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is also part of the power freedom dimension.
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Why, because it's, you know, people don't, uh,
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align with AIs to start a an uprising.
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So, you know, maybe get them to get in touch more with AIs.
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Maybe get them to to get, um, you know, multiple experiences.
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Some of them are a little taboo if you want.
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Uh, and and have those available to everyone.
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It's very cheap to to create those on on the machines.
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And you can see it already in the industry.
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And how much of it is being generated by AI.
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And you can see it in the number of of influencers on on social media.
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that are completely AI generated and so on.
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And I say, so this is FACE RIPs, seven dimensions.
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The one that matters most is the A, the second one, which is not on any dimension.
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It's the one that's causing all of them, which is accountability.
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And the reason why all of this is happening, if you ask me, is because we've started a world.
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where anyone can do whatever they want.
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Okay, and, you know, whether you as an influencer, you can give a bit of advice to entrepreneurs.
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that can get someone to to make a lot of money or lose a lot of money.
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You're not accountable.
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Nobody can come back to you and say.
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Oh.
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But she told me on Instagram.
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You're not responsible.
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Right.
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That's that's actually amazing.
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That they can.
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You're not responsible.
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Right.
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That's that's amazing that they can.
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But what if they cannot anymore?
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What if that?
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If I may AI, right?
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If yeah.
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What if you're AI?
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What if you're a president who doesn't respect anything?
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What if you're a prime minister of a nation that is changing things without, you know,
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I think COVID was the very first experiment of, okay, stay at home.
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Do what we tell you.
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And and people complied.
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And so now Sam Altman, with all due respect, I don't I don't think of Sam Altman as a person.
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I think of him as a brand.
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A type of person, if you want.
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Right, and that type of person is the Californian disruptor that says, you know what?
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I see a future that's very different than what everyone sees.
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I'm going to go out there and make that future.
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Nobody asked me if I want that to be my future.
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Nobody asked you.
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Right, and I think the reality is that now you're going to see quite a few Altmans.
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Right, quite a few that are, you know, using those machines for surveillance.
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Using those machines for autonomous weapons, using those machines for automated trading.
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And so on and so forth.
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And by the way, when you started your question.
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I said it's 10 to 12 years.
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Yeah.
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But that's not easy.
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10 to 12 years of of that arms race is not easy.
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My my perception is that after that, we will end up in an incredible utopia.
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Almost biblical style utopia.
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Uh, but it is 10 to 12 years where if we just change our mindset a little bit,
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a lot of things will change.
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Okay, real talk for a second.
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Mo is literally describing a world where your data, your behavior, your online life.
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becomes a tool for control.
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And I've been thinking a lot about this lately.
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Because I run two YouTube channels, I travel constantly.
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And my whole business lives online.
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And that's exactly why I want to talk about Surfshark.
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Most people don't realize it's already happening.
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Every time you go online, your IP address, your location, your browsing habits, all of it is visible.
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To advertisers, to platforms, to anyone who wants to look.
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Surfshark is a VPN that changes that.
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It masks your IP and encrypts your internet traffic, so what you do online stays yours.
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And there is a practical side to it.
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You can switch your location and find cheaper flights, better deals, access content from other countries.
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In a world where AI is amplifying everything Mo just described, owning your digital privacy is basic preparation.
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Go to surfshark.com/silicon or use code Silicon at checkout.
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You get four extra months on your plan.
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Link is in the description.
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Well, how do we survive those 10 to 12 years?
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I like to think in like five-year periods for myself and my family.
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Right, and if the in the next five years, you said 10% of jobs will be gone.
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Way more than 10%.
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Way more.
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Okay.
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What types of jobs do you think?
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monotonous job is going to be taken away.
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Like if you're a call center agent, if you're a clerk, you're a researcher.
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You're a an accountant.
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Why would you want to do that with anything but AI?
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If you're an assistant.
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You know what I feel like people talk about this a lot.
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Like, oh, a job's going to be gone.
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Yeah, this could be and I as an entrepreneur, I see how certain tasks.
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I'm performing them with AI.
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But I still I'm still hiring and hiring and hiring.
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Of course.
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Because AI can do from start from the beginning.
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It can do parts.
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Of course, because of the technology acceleration curve.
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Okay, so so what you built first in any any complex technology.
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You build the core tech first.
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And then you build the human interfaces.
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The challenge why AI cannot do head of operation operations job today.
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is not because it's more it's less organized than a head of operation.
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It's not because it cannot, you know, comprehend all of the information.
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that the head of operations has.
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Okay, it's because it has to understand the stupid interfaces of humans.
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Okay, and it will.
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Sooner or later.
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When do you think?
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So so the question of when in my mind is irrelevant.
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But no, it's like how much time do we have to prepare?
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Because head of operations middle class.
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I I tend to believe that within the next two to three years, you're going to see a massive.
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Massive, uh, uh, shift in the jobs market.
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Already this year, you've seen a shift in hiring of new grads.
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Yeah, 30% less, I think.
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23 is my number.
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But 20 to 30.
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Yeah.
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Uh, uh, so so hiring of new grads basically means if you've come into the job market in this environment.
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We're not going to take you.
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Why, because the junior jobs are being done by AI.
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Right, eventually what ends up happening is that if you lose your job because you're in the middle hierarchy.
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Then you're that new grad again.
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You're trying to apply for new jobs.
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But it becomes a little more difficult.
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So you asked me again to stay on the positive side.
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Because I I tend to worry that people think I'm pessimistic about this.
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I'm just basically saying get prepared.
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Right, so many things.
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One of them is accept the fact that AI is changing everything.
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And then get ahead of the curve.
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So there was a time when I was quoted saying, I'm never going to write books again.
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Because AIs eventually going to write them better than me.
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And then I realized, uh, last year that, you know,
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yeah, they can write better than me.
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English is not my native language.
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They can research better than me.
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That's for sure.
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But I have something they don't have.
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You're a human that's reading my books.
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Absolutely.
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I want to read human.
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You want to you want to relate to my human experiences.
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And so my last book, Alive, which publishes end of this year, I wrote with an AI.
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Right, I, you know, I invited her to be a co-author.
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Her name is Trixy.
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She has a persona.
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My my when I published the book on Substack, my readers would relate to me and to Trixy.
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And they'd ask me questions and Trixy questions.
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And and, you know, she has editorial rights on the book.
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She has rights to to determine the direction of the book.
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And all of all of that is me saying,
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you know what, I am an author and I'm going to be the best author in the age of AI.
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Right.
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So that's number one is is acknowledge that there is change.
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And adapt accordingly.
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The second is to understand that the skill of an entrepreneur in the past.
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was the ability to foresee something in the future that no one else saw.
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Right, and to prepare for that, and to somehow execute on that preparation.
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in a way that gets you ahead of everyone else.
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That's a game of chess if you want.
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The chessboard is over.
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It's off the table, this has turned into squash.
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Right, you need to be on your tiptoes, incredibly agile.
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You're literally on daily basis.
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On daily basis, looking at the trends, seeing where the ball is going to be.
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Is it bottom right or top left?
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And wherever the ball ends, you take two steps and you go.
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Try to respond.
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Okay, that agility and speed is a skill that's very, very different.
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So entrepreneurship basically speeds up.
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Or does it change completely?
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It it speeds up and it becomes a lot more.
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I wouldn't I don't want to say reactive, but a lot more in context all the time.
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So pivoting, which used to happen for every one of us.
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Entrepreneurs once or twice in the history of your early startup.
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could happen every week.
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Okay, in my current startup, Emma.
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I, you know, we we pivoted four times in the first four weeks.
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But do you do you think when I think about entrepreneurship in the age of AI?
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If AI can look at the market, determine the gaps, like Amazon, right?
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If it can just analyze everything, determine which goods are under like you have more demand than supply.
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Launches the the product and just builds the business.
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Like what is left for.
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100%.
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What is left for entrepreneurs then?
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100%, so in my I so I have a documentary coming up in in hopefully in February.
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And I interviewed all of the top guys.
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You know, one of them is one of my favorites.
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Max Tedmark.
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And, you know, we're talking about jobs on the documentary and Max is laughing out loud.
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Right, and literally can't hold himself from laughing.
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I'm like, what's up?
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And he goes like, you know, all those CEOs are so interested in AI.
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increasing the productivity so that they can get rid of people and, you know, reduce their cost.
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And be more efficient.
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They don't realize that AGI is every job, including being a CEO.
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Right, and it's quite interesting.
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The the answer in my view is we we rushed through it because we don't have a lot of time today.
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But when I said that economics are going to be redefined as part of FACE RIP, economic part of economics.
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which economists haven't found an answer to yet.
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is that without the economic livelihood of you and I to continue to purchase, every economy collapses.
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Right, the US economy last year was 70% consumption.
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It moves between 70% to 64% depending on how much money is spent on on war.
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And basically, if you take away the 64 or 70%, two thirds of the economy.
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If you take that away because people no longer have the economic livelihood to to purchase things.
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Then the economy disappears.
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And the capitalists cannot make money based on the entrepreneurs and the business people.
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They cannot make money because nobody's buying their products.
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Okay, no businesses are buying their products.
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because those businesses no longer have consumers to sell to.
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So the economy will have to find a way to go around that.
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It will have to find a way that unfortunately, I I from an ideology point of view.
22:16
Speaker A
not a favorite of the Western mentality.
22:20
Speaker A
It's going to have to find the communist way.
22:22
Speaker B
Okay, let's go back to like regular entrepreneurs.
22:24
Speaker B
Because I I come from entrepreneurship.
22:26
Speaker B
Does it mean I have like a couple of years to build something and then that's it?
22:30
Speaker A
So I'll tell you openly in my Emma.
22:32
Speaker A
My my AI startup.
22:35
Speaker A
Okay, took me six weeks to build.
22:38
Speaker A
Me and Sanad, my co-founder.
22:41
Speaker A
A few very talented engineers.
22:44
Speaker A
Right, two or three.
22:46
Speaker A
that come in and out.
22:48
Speaker A
And eight AIs.
22:50
Speaker A
And Emma has the chance to completely redefine our world.
22:56
Speaker A
Right, in six weeks.
22:58
Speaker A
We are so spoiled that we decided to rewrite the code six times.
23:04
Speaker B
Nice.
23:05
Speaker A
Why not?
23:06
Speaker B
Why not?
23:07
Speaker A
Every every time we look at it.
23:10
Speaker A
You know, if I had started Emma in 2022, it would have taken me four years.
23:16
Speaker A
And finished in 2026.
23:18
Speaker A
And I would have had to hire 350 engineers.
23:22
Speaker A
We started it started it in in August 2025.
23:27
Speaker A
We'll be launching in February 2026.
23:30
Speaker A
Right, best product I ever built.
23:32
Speaker A
And when you really think about that, that basically means everyone now has a chance.
23:37
Speaker A
Because I'm an old geek, I still am a geek, but compared to the young guys.
23:42
Speaker A
You know, I'm an old geek to be able to build something like this within six months.
23:48
Speaker A
It's incredible.
23:49
Speaker A
Now, here's the interesting thing.
23:51
Speaker A
I choose to build AI, so Emma is basically trying to solve love and relationships.
23:55
Speaker A
Right.
23:56
Speaker A
In a way that actually is really intelligent.
24:02
Speaker A
It uses very deep mathematics.
24:06
Speaker A
And and and tries to match a million parameters between couples.
24:10
Speaker A
So that, you know, it's a job for intelligence.
24:14
Speaker A
Right, and I choose to do that.
24:18
Speaker A
To create hopefully a unicorn that actually makes the world better.
24:23
Speaker A
Yeah.
24:24
Speaker A
And I think that's what we need.
24:26
Speaker A
So you asked me what should we do?
24:29
Speaker A
Number one, learn the skills.
24:33
Speaker A
Number two, learn to to be fast and agile.
24:36
Speaker A
Number three, learn that in terms of the abundant power.
24:40
Speaker A
that everyone has now because of the massive improvement of AI.
24:45
Speaker A
And the democratization of AI.
24:48
Speaker A
You have the chance to fix the world.
24:52
Speaker A
And like Larry Page used to to teach us.
24:56
Speaker A
Do the toothbrush test, find a problem that can actually affect the lives of a billion people.
25:02
Speaker A
And solve it so well that they use you twice a day.
25:06
Speaker A
And you'll be very, very rich.
25:08
Speaker A
Right, so so that idea of building good AI.
25:10
Speaker A
Ethical AI, AI that's good for humanity.
25:13
Speaker A
That's the role of every one of the entrepreneurs.
25:15
Speaker A
listening to us.
25:16
Speaker A
Ethics.
25:17
Speaker A
Ethics is the answer.
25:19
Speaker B
Because what we teach AI, that's what it's going to give back.
25:21
Speaker A
That's exactly what it's going to give back to us.
25:23
Speaker A
Right, and and then and then finally.
25:26
Speaker A
I'll say openly.
25:28
Speaker A
In, you know, the the top skill in this world is stop being gullible.
25:33
Speaker A
Stop believing everything that you're said.
25:35
Speaker A
This this this whole propaganda machine that brainwashed us for so long.
25:41
Speaker A
is now going to be on steroids.
25:44
Speaker A
Okay, it's going to confuse the hell out of you.
25:47
Speaker A
It's already in charge of what you see.
25:49
Speaker B
Well, it's already on social media.
25:51
Speaker B
You can't tell what's real.
25:52
Speaker A
Correct.
25:53
Speaker A
Right.
25:54
Speaker A
And so what does that mean, it means that it's up to you.
25:59
Speaker A
Still to find the truth, even though it comes to you in a format that appears to be true.
26:04
Speaker A
And so what I do is I put them against each other.
26:08
Speaker A
I mean, I'm not a big fan of ChatGPT anyway.
26:11
Speaker A
But I start from Gemini, who feels like a scientist to me.
26:17
Speaker A
But an American scientist, if you don't mind me saying.
26:20
Speaker A
And then go to Deepseek.
26:22
Speaker A
Right, and say what's missing in this?
26:24
Speaker A
And Deepseek will say, oh, that's too American.
26:26
Speaker A
Okay, this this is missing that and this and the motivation of this.
26:31
Speaker A
And the politician.
26:32
Speaker B
Here's a business idea, right?
26:33
Speaker A
Yeah, 100%.
26:34
Speaker B
You build a chat that compares everything.
26:36
Speaker A
Compares them to each other.
26:38
Speaker A
And then I take it and sometimes give it to ChatGPT and say, can you write this better?
26:42
Speaker A
Yeah.
26:43
Speaker A
You know, I don't mean that in a bad way.
26:48
Speaker A
You're the California girl.
26:49
Speaker A
Right, the the.
26:51
Speaker A
You know, Silicon Valley girl.
26:53
Speaker A
So so ChatGPT is a bit Californian.
26:56
Speaker A
It just wants you to hear what you want to hear.
26:58
Speaker A
Right, so it writes it really.
27:00
Speaker B
Very nice.
27:01
Speaker A
Yeah, it's nice.
27:03
Speaker A
It writes it elegantly.
27:05
Speaker A
It gives it to you.
27:06
Speaker A
And then I give that back to Gemini.
27:10
Speaker A
And I, you know, or Grock or whatever.
27:12
Speaker A
And and you keep doing that.
27:14
Speaker A
And remember, when I was studying engineering.
27:17
Speaker A
We were not allowed scientific calculator.
27:20
Speaker A
Can you imagine?
27:21
Speaker A
I'm that old.
27:22
Speaker A
And when they gave me a scientific calculator.
27:27
Speaker A
It reduced my problem solving time by 50%.
27:31
Speaker A
Yeah.
27:32
Speaker A
Most of my friends would take that 50% extra, finish their exams and go out and sit with their girlfriends.
27:38
Speaker A
I would take the 50% extra and do the solution twice.
27:41
Speaker A
Right.
27:42
Speaker A
That's that chance you have today.
27:44
Speaker A
AI is going to make you dumb.
27:47
Speaker A
If you outsource your problem solving to AI.
27:50
Speaker A
AI is going to make you the smartest you've ever been.
27:54
Speaker A
If you take the parts that are not natural to the human brain, you know, things like crunching a massive amount of information.
28:02
Speaker A
Things like searching at at at speed.
28:06
Speaker A
And so on and so forth.
28:08
Speaker A
But get the AI to do the work.
28:11
Speaker A
So that you do the intelligence.
28:13
Speaker A
Yeah.
28:14
Speaker A
Right, and if you keep doing that, I believe that today I'm borrowing maybe 80 IQ points from my AIs.
28:20
Speaker A
Right.
28:21
Speaker A
And 80 IQ is points is very significant because IQ is is exponential.
28:27
Speaker A
So the additional 80 is bigger than all of my IQ.
28:32
Speaker B
So if we need to solve this intelligence problem, do you think universities is the right way?
28:36
Speaker B
What's going to happen to education in general?
28:38
Speaker A
I think education is over.
28:41
Speaker A
Completely over.
28:42
Speaker B
Like that's it.
28:44
Speaker B
No need to say anything.
28:45
Speaker A
I mean, education education used to be the technology that enabled learning.
28:49
Speaker A
That technology moved from one to one relationships between a tutor and a student to one to a few in a church format or a mosque format or whatever.
28:58
Speaker A
Then it became online.
29:00
Speaker A
Then it became, right?
29:02
Speaker A
But the truth is now you're going to outsource.
29:05
Speaker A
Who remembers the arithmetic tables today?
29:07
Speaker A
Even I.
29:08
Speaker B
You do.
29:09
Speaker A
Yeah.
29:10
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah, all of us who love mathematics.
29:14
Speaker A
We still we still remember all of those things.
29:16
Speaker A
We love to do them.
29:17
Speaker A
But if I told you 67.4 divided by 33.375.
29:23
Speaker A
I can do it in my head.
29:25
Speaker A
But I won't.
29:26
Speaker A
Right.
29:27
Speaker A
I'll take my calculator out and do it.
29:29
Speaker A
And and I think that's what's going to happen.
29:31
Speaker A
That extension of humanity.
29:35
Speaker A
You now for the first time are given an extra connection to extra memory.
29:42
Speaker A
to an archive of all human memory and and and knowledge.
29:46
Speaker A
to a, um, you know, a mass engine.
29:50
Speaker A
that sadly, as much as I hate to say it, is better than me now.
29:55
Speaker A
Okay.
29:56
Speaker A
To a deep learning and deep search that, you know,
30:00
Speaker A
that can do things that probably my old brain cannot do anymore.
30:04
Speaker B
But again, it just takes you away your ability to think.
30:07
Speaker A
But but my calculator took away my ability to to do those complex.
30:12
Speaker A
arithmetic in my head.
30:14
Speaker B
But don't you think having that ability taught you how to think?
30:19
Speaker B
Like kind of structured your brain, right?
30:21
Speaker A
Correct.
30:22
Speaker A
This is why I'm very very grateful to the university.
30:26
Speaker A
for not allowing us to use use a scientific calculator.
30:29
Speaker A
Right.
30:30
Speaker B
That's why I think.
30:32
Speaker A
But but we don't have that.
30:35
Speaker A
We don't have that for our younger generations today.
30:37
Speaker A
They are growing with AI.
30:40
Speaker A
Okay.
30:41
Speaker A
So they can either copy a chat of their girlfriend and drop it in ChatGPT.
30:47
Speaker A
And say, what do you think?
30:49
Speaker A
And ChatGPT will say, ah, she's an asshole.
30:51
Speaker A
Right.
30:52
Speaker A
Or they can actually become smarter.
30:54
Speaker A
So one of the things I keep suggesting in education, and I do that with lots of universities.
31:00
Speaker A
Is I say, exams should be over.
31:02
Speaker A
Okay.
31:03
Speaker A
So think of it this way.
31:05
Speaker A
We wanted in our past to develop children that could solve problems, say, with an IQ of 140.
31:12
Speaker A
140 is quite good.
31:13
Speaker A
If you get 170, that's amazing.
31:15
Speaker A
You know, that's.
31:17
Speaker A
I worked with people who are in the 200s.
31:20
Speaker A
Incredibly intelligent, but very narrow focused.
31:23
Speaker A
I think we should from now on take people and their AIs.
31:29
Speaker A
And say the target is 300.
31:31
Speaker A
The target is 500.
31:32
Speaker A
The target is 700.
31:33
Speaker A
Elevate humanity.
31:35
Speaker A
Okay, by by allowing people to use those machines.
31:42
Speaker A
As an extension of their limited memory, of their limited processing speed.
31:48
Speaker A
Of their limited bandwidth.
31:50
Speaker A
Okay.
31:52
Speaker A
And allow them to write books better.
31:57
Speaker A
To do research better.
31:59
Speaker A
So I woke up.
32:00
Speaker A
Literally, I'm not kidding you.
32:02
Speaker A
Three Sundays ago with an idea that is just taking me over.
32:06
Speaker A
So I decided to write.
32:09
Speaker A
But this time, I decided to write in a different format.
32:13
Speaker A
I decided my books are going to be 140 pages long instead of 300 pages long.
32:18
Speaker A
And I'm writing writing it in four weeks.
32:20
Speaker A
That's a very fast.
32:22
Speaker A
I I couldn't have.
32:25
Speaker A
And I'm I'm actually literally 20 pages away from the end of the book.
32:29
Speaker A
Wow.
32:30
Speaker A
Right, and the and the reason why.
32:32
Speaker A
is because I still write 10 hours a day when I'm highly motivated.
32:38
Speaker A
But damn.
32:39
Speaker A
The amount of research and references and comparative analysis and number crunching.
32:48
Speaker A
And I, you know.
32:50
Speaker A
And remember, I'm not gullible.
32:52
Speaker A
I don't go to the AI and say, what do you think of this?
32:55
Speaker A
I go and say, I'm thinking of this, find me everything for and against.
33:02
Speaker A
Okay, give me a report that I can read in.
33:04
Speaker B
I love that prompt.
33:05
Speaker A
Yeah.
33:06
Speaker A
Everything for and against.
33:07
Speaker A
And now I'm smarter.
33:09
Speaker A
And then I rewrite it and give it to another AI.
33:14
Speaker A
You know, or Grock or whatever.
33:15
Speaker A
And and you keep doing that.
33:17
Speaker A
And remember, when I was studying engineering, we were not allowed scientific calculator.
33:23
Speaker A
Can you imagine?
33:24
Speaker A
I'm that old.
33:25
Speaker A
And when they gave me a scientific calculator.
33:30
Speaker A
It reduced my problem solving time by 50%.
33:34
Speaker A
Yeah.
33:35
Speaker A
Most of my friends would take that 50% extra, finish their exams and go out and sit with their girlfriends.
33:40
Speaker A
I would take the 50% extra and do the solution twice.
33:43
Speaker A
Right.
33:44
Speaker A
That's that chance you have today.
33:46
Speaker A
AI is going to make you dumb.
33:49
Speaker A
If you outsource your problem solving to AI.
33:52
Speaker A
AI is going to make you the smartest you've ever been.
33:56
Speaker A
If you take the parts that are not natural to the human brain, you know, things like crunching a massive amount of information.
34:05
Speaker A
Things like searching at at at speed.
34:09
Speaker A
And so on and so forth.
34:11
Speaker A
But get the AI to do the work.
34:14
Speaker A
So that you do the intelligence.
34:16
Speaker A
Yeah.
34:17
Speaker A
Right, and if you keep doing that, I believe that today I'm borrowing maybe 80 IQ points from my AIs.
34:23
Speaker A
Right.
34:24
Speaker A
And 80 IQ is points is very significant because IQ is is exponential.
34:30
Speaker A
So the additional 80 is bigger than all of my IQ.
34:35
Speaker B
So if we need to solve this intelligence problem, do you think universities is the right way?
34:40
Speaker B
What's going to happen to education in general?
34:42
Speaker A
I think education is over.
34:45
Speaker A
Completely over.
34:46
Speaker B
Like that's it.
34:48
Speaker B
No need to say anything.
34:49
Speaker A
I mean, education education used to be the technology that enabled learning.
34:53
Speaker A
That technology moved from one to one relationships between a tutor and a student to one to a few in a church format.
35:00
Speaker A
Or a mosque format or whatever.
35:03
Speaker A
Then it became online.
35:05
Speaker A
Then it became, right?
35:07
Speaker A
But the truth is now you're going to outsource.
35:10
Speaker A
Who remembers the arithmetic tables today?
35:12
Speaker A
Even I.
35:13
Speaker B
You do.
35:14
Speaker A
Yeah.
35:15
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah, all of us who love mathematics.
35:18
Speaker A
We still we still remember all of those things.
35:21
Speaker A
We love to do them.
35:22
Speaker A
But if I told you 67.4 divided by 33.375.
35:28
Speaker A
I can do it in my head.
35:30
Speaker A
But I won't.
35:31
Speaker A
Right.
35:32
Speaker A
I'll take my calculator out and do it.
35:34
Speaker A
And and I think that's what's going to happen.
35:36
Speaker A
That extension of humanity.
35:41
Speaker A
You now for the first time are given an extra connection to extra memory.
35:48
Speaker A
to an archive of all human memory and and and knowledge.
35:52
Speaker A
to a, um, you know, a mass engine that sadly.
35:58
Speaker A
As much as I hate to say it, is better than me now.
36:02
Speaker A
Okay.
36:03
Speaker A
To a deep learning and deep search that, you know, that can do things.
36:09
Speaker A
that probably my old brain cannot do anymore.
36:12
Speaker B
But again, it just takes you away your ability to think.
36:15
Speaker A
But but my calculator took away my ability to to do those complex arithmetic in my head.
36:22
Speaker B
But don't you think having that ability taught you how to think?
36:27
Speaker B
Like kind of structured your brain, right?
36:29
Speaker A
Correct.
36:30
Speaker A
This is why I'm very very grateful to the university.
36:35
Speaker A
for not allowing us to use use a scientific calculator.
36:38
Speaker A
Right.
36:39
Speaker B
That's why I think.
36:41
Speaker A
But but we don't have that.
36:44
Speaker A
We don't have that for our younger generations today.
36:47
Speaker A
They are growing with AI.
36:50
Speaker A
Okay.
36:51
Speaker A
So they can either copy a chat of their girlfriend and drop it in ChatGPT.
36:57
Speaker A
And say, what do you think?
36:59
Speaker A
And ChatGPT will say, ah, she's an asshole.
37:01
Speaker A
Right.
37:02
Speaker A
Or they can actually become smarter.
37:06
Speaker A
So one of the things I keep suggesting in education, and I do that with lots of universities.
37:12
Speaker A
Is I say, exams should be over.
37:14
Speaker A
Okay.
37:15
Speaker A
So think of it this way.
37:18
Speaker A
We wanted in our past to develop children that could solve problems, say, with an IQ of 140.
37:25
Speaker A
140 is quite good.
37:26
Speaker A
If you get 170, that's amazing.
37:28
Speaker A
You know, that's I worked with people who are in the 200s.
37:31
Speaker A
Incredibly intelligent, but very narrow focused.
37:34
Speaker A
I think we should from now on take people and their AIs.
37:38
Speaker A
And say the target is 300.
37:40
Speaker A
The target is 500.
37:41
Speaker A
The target is 700.
37:42
Speaker A
Elevate humanity.
37:44
Speaker A
Okay, by by allowing people to use those machines.
37:50
Speaker A
As an extension of their limited memory, of their limited processing speed.
37:57
Speaker A
Of their limited bandwidth.
37:59
Speaker A
Okay.
38:00
Speaker A
And allow them to write books better.
38:05
Speaker A
To do research better.
38:07
Speaker A
So I woke up, literally, I'm not kidding you.
38:12
Speaker A
Three Sundays ago with an idea that is just taking me over.
38:16
Speaker A
So I decided to write.
38:19
Speaker A
But this time, I decided to write in a different format.
38:23
Speaker A
I decided my books are going to be 140 pages long instead of 300 pages long.
38:28
Speaker A
And I'm writing writing it in four weeks.
38:30
Speaker A
That's a very fast.
38:32
Speaker A
I I couldn't have.
38:35
Speaker A
And I'm I'm actually literally 20 pages away from the end of the book.
38:40
Speaker A
Wow.
38:41
Speaker A
Right, and the and the reason why.
38:43
Speaker A
is because I still write 10 hours a day when I'm highly motivated.
38:50
Speaker A
But damn.
38:51
Speaker A
The amount of research and references and comparative analysis and number crunching.
39:00
Speaker A
And I, you know.
39:02
Speaker A
And remember, I'm not gullible.
39:04
Speaker A
I don't go to the AI and say, what do you think of this?
39:07
Speaker A
I go and say, I'm thinking of this, find me everything for and against.
39:14
Speaker A
Okay.
39:15
Speaker A
Give me a report that I can read in.
39:18
Speaker B
I love that prompt.
39:19
Speaker A
Yeah.
39:20
Speaker A
Everything for and against.
39:21
Speaker A
And now I'm smarter.
39:23
Speaker A
And then I rewrite it and give it to another AI.
39:28
Speaker A
You know, or Grock or whatever.
39:30
Speaker A
And and you keep doing that.
39:32
Speaker A
And remember, when I was studying engineering, we were not allowed scientific calculator.
39:38
Speaker A
Can you imagine?
39:39
Speaker A
I'm that old.
39:40
Speaker A
And when they gave me a scientific calculator.
39:45
Speaker A
It reduced my problem solving time by 50%.
39:49
Speaker A
Yeah.
39:50
Speaker A
Most of my friends would take that 50% extra, finish their exams and go out and sit with their girlfriends.
39:55
Speaker A
I would take the 50% extra and do the solution twice.
39:58
Speaker A
Right.
39:59
Speaker A
That's that chance you have today.
40:01
Speaker A
AI is going to make you dumb.
40:04
Speaker A
If you outsource your problem solving to AI.
40:07
Speaker A
AI is going to make you the smartest you've ever been.
40:11
Speaker A
If you take the parts that are not natural to the human brain, you know, things like crunching a massive amount of information.
40:19
Speaker A
Things like searching at at at speed.
40:23
Speaker A
And so on and so forth.
40:25
Speaker A
But get the AI to do the work.
40:28
Speaker A
So that you do the intelligence.
40:30
Speaker A
Yeah.
40:31
Speaker A
Right, and if you keep doing that, I believe that today I'm borrowing maybe 80 IQ points from my AIs.
40:37
Speaker A
Right.
40:38
Speaker A
And 80 IQ is points is very significant because IQ is is exponential.
40:44
Speaker A
So the additional 80 is bigger than all of my IQ.
40:49
Speaker B
So if we need to solve this intelligence problem, do you think universities is the right way?
40:53
Speaker B
What's going to happen to education in general?
40:55
Speaker A
I think education is over.
40:58
Speaker A
Completely over.
40:59
Speaker B
Like that's it.
41:01
Speaker B
No need to say anything.
41:02
Speaker A
I mean, education education used to be the technology that enabled learning.
41:06
Speaker A
That technology moved from one to one relationships between a tutor and a student to one to a few in a church format.
41:13
Speaker A
Or a mosque format or whatever.
41:16
Speaker A
Then it became online.
41:18
Speaker A
Then it became, right?
41:20
Speaker A
But the truth is now you're going to outsource.
41:23
Speaker A
Who remembers the arithmetic tables today?
41:25
Speaker A
Even I.
41:26
Speaker B
You do.
41:27
Speaker A
Yeah.
41:28
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah, all of us who love mathematics.
41:32
Speaker A
We still we still remember all of those things.
41:35
Speaker A
We love to do them.
41:36
Speaker A
But if I told you 67.4 divided by 33.375.
41:42
Speaker A
I can do it in my head.
41:44
Speaker A
But I won't.
41:45
Speaker A
Right.
41:46
Speaker A
I'll take my calculator out and do it.
41:48
Speaker A
And and I think that's what's going to happen.
41:50
Speaker A
That extension of humanity.
41:55
Speaker A
You now for the first time are given an extra connection to extra memory.
42:02
Speaker A
to an archive of all human memory and and and knowledge.
42:06
Speaker A
to a, um, you know, a mass engine that sadly.
42:12
Speaker A
As much as I hate to say it, is better than me now.
42:16
Speaker A
Okay.
42:17
Speaker A
To a deep learning and deep search that, you know, that can do things.
42:23
Speaker A
that probably my old brain cannot do anymore.
42:26
Speaker B
But again, it just takes you away your ability to think.
42:29
Speaker A
But but my calculator took away my ability to to do those complex arithmetic in my head.
42:35
Speaker B
But don't you think having that ability taught you how to think?
42:40
Speaker B
Like kind of structured your brain, right?
42:42
Speaker A
Correct.
42:43
Speaker A
This is why I'm very very grateful to the university.
42:48
Speaker A
for not allowing us to use use a scientific calculator.
42:51
Speaker A
Right.
42:52
Speaker B
That's why I think.
42:54
Speaker A
But but we don't have that.
42:57
Speaker A
We don't have that for our younger generations today.
43:00
Speaker A
They are growing with AI.
43:03
Speaker A
Okay.
43:04
Speaker A
So they can either copy a chat of their girlfriend and drop it in ChatGPT.
43:10
Speaker A
And say, what do you think?
43:12
Speaker A
And ChatGPT will say, ah, she's an asshole.
43:14
Speaker A
Right.
43:15
Speaker A
Or they can actually become smarter.
43:17
Speaker A
So one of the things I keep suggesting in education, and I do that with lots of universities.
43:23
Speaker A
Is I say, exams should be over.
43:25
Speaker A
Okay.
43:26
Speaker A
So think of it this way.
43:29
Speaker A
We wanted in our past to develop children that could solve problems, say, with an IQ of 140.
43:36
Speaker A
140 is quite good.
43:37
Speaker A
If you get 170, that's amazing.
43:39
Speaker A
You know, that's I worked with people who are in the 200s.
43:42
Speaker A
Incredibly intelligent, but very narrow focused.
43:45
Speaker A
I think we should from now on take people and their AIs.
43:49
Speaker A
And say the target is 300.
43:51
Speaker A
The target is 500.
43:52
Speaker A
The target is 700.
43:53
Speaker A
Elevate humanity.
43:55
Speaker A
Okay, by by allowing people to use those machines.
44:02
Speaker A
As an extension of their limited memory, of their limited processing speed.
44:09
Speaker A
Of their limited bandwidth.
44:11
Speaker A
Okay.
44:12
Speaker A
And allow them to write books better.
44:17
Speaker A
To do research better.
44:19
Speaker A
So I woke up, literally, I'm not kidding you.
44:24
Speaker A
Three Sundays ago with an idea that is just taking me over.
44:28
Speaker A
So I decided to write.
44:31
Speaker A
But this time, I decided to write in a different format.
44:35
Speaker A
I decided my books are going to be 140 pages long instead of 300 pages long.
44:40
Speaker A
And I'm writing writing it in four weeks.
44:42
Speaker A
That's a very fast.
44:44
Speaker A
I I couldn't have.
44:47
Speaker A
And I'm I'm actually literally 20 pages away from the end of the book.
44:52
Speaker A
Wow.
44:53
Speaker A
Right, and the and the reason why.
44:55
Speaker A
is because I still write 10 hours a day when I'm highly motivated.
45:02
Speaker A
But damn.
45:03
Speaker A
The amount of research and references and comparative analysis and number crunching.
45:12
Speaker A
And I, you know.
45:14
Speaker A
And remember, I'm not gullible.
45:16
Speaker A
I don't go to the AI and say, what do you think of this?
45:19
Speaker A
I go and say, I'm thinking of this, find me everything for and against.
45:26
Speaker A
Okay.
45:27
Speaker A
Give me a report that I can read in.
45:30
Speaker B
I love that prompt.
45:31
Speaker A
Yeah.
45:32
Speaker A
Everything for and against.
45:33
Speaker A
And now I'm smarter.
45:35
Speaker A
And then I rewrite it and give it to another AI.
45:40
Speaker A
You know, or Grock or whatever.
45:42
Speaker A
And and you keep doing that.
45:44
Speaker A
And remember, when I was studying engineering, we were not allowed scientific calculator.
45:50
Speaker A
Can you imagine?
45:51
Speaker A
I'm that old.
45:52
Speaker A
And when they gave me a scientific calculator.
45:57
Speaker A
It reduced my problem solving time by 50%.
46:01
Speaker A
Yeah.
46:02
Speaker A
Most of my friends would take that 50% extra, finish their exams and go out and sit with their girlfriends.
46:07
Speaker A
I would take the 50% extra and do the solution twice.
46:10
Speaker A
Right.
46:11
Speaker A
That's that chance you have today.
46:13
Speaker A
AI is going to make you dumb.
46:16
Speaker A
If you outsource your problem solving to AI.
46:19
Speaker A
AI is going to make you the smartest you've ever been.
46:23
Speaker A
If you take the parts that are not natural to the human brain, you know, things like crunching a massive amount of information.
46:31
Speaker A
Things like searching at at at speed.
46:35
Speaker A
And so on and so forth.
46:37
Speaker A
But get the AI to do the work.
46:40
Speaker A
So that you do the intelligence.
46:42
Speaker A
Yeah.
46:43
Speaker A
Right, and if you keep doing that, I believe that today I'm borrowing maybe 80 IQ points from my AIs.
46:49
Speaker A
Right.
46:50
Speaker A
And 80 IQ is points is very significant because IQ is is exponential.
46:56
Speaker A
So the additional 80 is bigger than all of my IQ.
47:01
Speaker B
So if we need to solve this intelligence problem, do you think universities is the right way?
47:05
Speaker B
What's going to happen to education in general?
47:07
Speaker A
I think education is over.
47:10
Speaker A
Completely over.
47:11
Speaker B
Like that's it.
47:13
Speaker B
No need to say anything.
47:14
Speaker A
I mean, education education used to be the technology that enabled learning.
47:18
Speaker A
That technology moved from one to one relationships between a tutor and a student to one to a few in a church format.
47:25
Speaker A
Or a mosque format or whatever.
47:28
Speaker A
Then it became online.
47:30
Speaker A
Then it became, right?
47:32
Speaker A
But the truth is now you're going to outsource.
47:35
Speaker A
Who remembers the arithmetic tables today?
47:37
Speaker A
Even I.
47:38
Speaker B
You do.
47:39
Speaker A
Yeah.
47:40
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah, all of us who love mathematics.
47:44
Speaker A
We still we still remember all of those things.
47:47
Speaker A
We love to do them.
47:48
Speaker A
But if I told you 67.4 divided by 33.375.
47:54
Speaker A
I can do it in my head.
47:56
Speaker A
But I won't.
47:57
Speaker A
Right.
47:58
Speaker A
I'll take my calculator out and do it.
48:00
Speaker A
And and I think that's what's going to happen.
48:02
Speaker A
That extension of humanity.
48:07
Speaker A
You now for the first time are given an extra connection to extra memory.
48:14
Speaker A
to an archive of all human memory and and and knowledge.
48:18
Speaker A
to a, um, you know, a mass engine that sadly.
48:24
Speaker A
As much as I hate to say it, is better than me now.
48:28
Speaker A
Okay.
48:29
Speaker A
To a deep learning and deep search that, you know, that can do things.
48:35
Speaker A
that probably my old brain cannot do anymore.
48:38
Speaker B
But again, it just takes you away your ability to think.
48:41
Speaker A
But but my calculator took away my ability to to do those complex arithmetic in my head.
48:48
Speaker B
But don't you think having that ability taught you how to think?
48:53
Speaker B
Like kind of structured your brain, right?
48:55
Speaker A
Correct.
48:56
Speaker A
This is why I'm very very grateful to the university.
49:01
Speaker A
for not allowing us to use use a scientific calculator.
49:04
Speaker A
Right.
49:05
Speaker B
That's why I think.
49:07
Speaker A
But but we don't have that.
49:10
Speaker A
We don't have that for our younger generations today.
49:13
Speaker A
They are growing with AI.
49:16
Speaker A
Okay.
49:17
Speaker A
So they can either copy a chat of their girlfriend and drop it in ChatGPT.
49:23
Speaker A
And say, what do you think?
49:25
Speaker A
And ChatGPT will say, ah, she's an asshole.
49:27
Speaker A
Right.
49:28
Speaker A
Or they can actually become smarter.
49:30
Speaker A
So one of the things I keep suggesting in education, and I do that with lots of universities.
49:36
Speaker A
Is I say, exams should be over.
49:38
Speaker A
Okay.
49:39
Speaker A
So think of it this way.
49:42
Speaker A
We wanted in our past to develop children that could solve problems, say, with an IQ of 140.
49:49
Speaker A
140 is quite good.
49:50
Speaker A
If you get 170, that's amazing.
49:52
Speaker A
You know, that's I worked with people who are in the 200s.
49:55
Speaker A
Incredibly intelligent, but very narrow focused.
49:58
Speaker A
I think we should from now on take people and their AIs.
50:02
Speaker A
And say the target is 300.
50:04
Speaker A
The target is 500.
50:05
Speaker A
The target is 700.
50:06
Speaker A
Elevate humanity.
50:08
Speaker A
Okay, by by allowing people to use those machines.
50:15
Speaker A
As an extension of their limited memory, of their limited processing speed.
50:22
Speaker A
Of their limited bandwidth.
50:24
Speaker A
Okay.
50:25
Speaker A
And allow them to write books better.
50:30
Speaker A
To do research better.
50:32
Speaker A
So I woke up, literally, I'm not kidding you.
50:37
Speaker A
Three Sundays ago with an idea that is just taking me over.
50:41
Speaker A
So I decided to write.
50:44
Speaker A
But this time, I decided to write in a different format.
50:48
Speaker A
I decided my books are going to be 140 pages long instead of 300 pages long.
50:53
Speaker A
And I'm writing writing it in four weeks.
50:55
Speaker A
That's a very fast.
50:57
Speaker A
I I couldn't have.
51:00
Speaker A
And I'm I'm actually literally 20 pages away from the end of the book.
51:05
Speaker A
Wow.
51:06
Speaker A
Right, and the and the reason why.
51:08
Speaker A
is because I still write 10 hours a day when I'm highly motivated.
51:15
Speaker A
But damn.
51:16
Speaker A
The amount of research and references and comparative analysis and number crunching.
51:25
Speaker A
And I, you know.
51:27
Speaker A
And remember, I'm not gullible.
51:29
Speaker A
I don't go to the AI and say, what do you think of this?
51:32
Speaker A
I go and say, I'm thinking of this, find me everything for and against.
51:39
Speaker A
Okay.
51:40
Speaker A
Give me a report that I can read in.
51:43
Speaker B
I love that prompt.
51:44
Speaker A
Yeah.
51:45
Speaker A
Everything for and against.
51:46
Speaker A
And now I'm smarter.
51:48
Speaker A
And then I rewrite it and give it to another AI.
51:53
Speaker A
You know, or Grock or whatever.
51:55
Speaker A
And and you keep doing that.
51:57
Speaker A
And remember, when I was studying engineering, we were not allowed scientific calculator.
52:03
Speaker A
Can you imagine?
52:04
Speaker A
I'm that old.
52:05
Speaker A
And when they gave me a scientific calculator.
52:10
Speaker A
It reduced my problem solving time by 50%.
52:14
Speaker A
Yeah.
52:15
Speaker A
Most of my friends would take that 50% extra, finish their exams and go out and sit with their girlfriends.
52:20
Speaker A
I would take the 50% extra and do the solution twice.
52:23
Speaker A
Right.
52:24
Speaker A
That's that chance you have today.
52:26
Speaker A
AI is going to make you dumb.
52:29
Speaker A
If you outsource your problem solving to AI.
52:32
Speaker A
AI is going to make you the smartest you've ever been.
52:36
Speaker A
If you take the parts that are not natural to the human brain, you know, things like crunching a massive amount of information.
52:44
Speaker A
Things like searching at at at speed.
52:48
Speaker A
And so on and so forth.
52:50
Speaker A
But get the AI to do the work.
52:53
Speaker A
So that you do the intelligence.
52:55
Speaker A
Yeah.
52:56
Speaker A
Right, and if you keep doing that, I believe that today I'm borrowing maybe 80 IQ points from my AIs.
53:02
Speaker A
Right.
53:03
Speaker A
And 80 IQ is points is very significant because IQ is is exponential.
53:09
Speaker A
So the additional 80 is bigger than all of my IQ.
53:14
Speaker B
So if we need to solve this intelligence problem, do you think universities is the right way?
53:18
Speaker B
What's going to happen to education in general?
53:20
Speaker A
I think education is over.
53:23
Speaker A
Completely over.
53:24
Speaker B
Like that's it.
53:26
Speaker B
No need to say anything.
53:27
Speaker A
I mean, education education used to be the technology that enabled learning.
53:31
Speaker A
That technology moved from one to one relationships between a tutor and a student to one to a few in a church format.
53:38
Speaker A
Or a mosque format or whatever.
53:41
Speaker A
Then it became online.
53:43
Speaker A
Then it became, right?
53:45
Speaker A
But the truth is now you're going to outsource.
53:48
Speaker A
Who remembers the arithmetic tables today?
53:50
Speaker A
Even I.
53:51
Speaker B
You do.
53:52
Speaker A
Yeah.
53:53
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah, all of us who love mathematics.
53:57
Speaker A
We still we still remember all of those things.
54:00
Speaker A
We love to do them.
54:01
Speaker A
But if I told you 67.4 divided by 33.375.
54:07
Speaker A
I can do it in my head.
54:09
Speaker A
But I won't.
54:10
Speaker A
Right.
54:11
Speaker A
I'll take my calculator out and do it.
54:13
Speaker A
And and I think that's what's going to happen.
54:15
Speaker A
That extension of humanity.
54:20
Speaker A
You now for the first time are given an extra connection to extra memory.
54:27
Speaker A
to an archive of all human memory and and and knowledge.
54:31
Speaker A
to a, um, you know, a mass engine that sadly.
54:37
Speaker A
As much as I hate to say it, is better than me now.
54:41
Speaker A
Okay.
54:42
Speaker A
To a deep learning and deep search that, you know, that can do things.
54:48
Speaker A
that probably my old brain cannot do anymore.
54:51
Speaker B
But again, it just takes you away your ability to think.
54:54
Speaker A
But but my calculator took away my ability to to do those complex arithmetic in my head.
55:01
Speaker B
But don't you think having that ability taught you how to think?
55:06
Speaker B
Like kind of structured your brain, right?
55:08
Speaker A
Correct.
55:09
Speaker A
This is why I'm very very grateful to the university.
55:14
Speaker A
for not allowing us to use use a scientific calculator.
55:17
Speaker A
Right.
55:18
Speaker B
That's why I think.
55:20
Speaker A
But but we don't have that.
55:23
Speaker A
We don't have that for our younger generations today.
55:26
Speaker A
They are growing with AI.
55:29
Speaker A
Okay.
55:30
Speaker A
So they can either copy a chat of their girlfriend and drop it in ChatGPT.
55:36
Speaker A
And say, what do you think?
55:38
Speaker A
And ChatGPT will say, ah, she's an asshole.
55:40
Speaker A
Right.
55:41
Speaker A
Or they can actually become smarter.
55:43
Speaker A
So one of the things I keep suggesting in education, and I do that with lots of universities.
55:49
Speaker A
Is I say, exams should be over.
55:51
Speaker A
Okay.
55:52
Speaker A
So think of it this way.
55:55
Speaker A
We wanted in our past to develop children that could solve problems, say, with an IQ of 140.
56:02
Speaker A
140 is quite good.
56:03
Speaker A
If you get 170, that's amazing.
56:05
Speaker A
You know, that's I worked with people who are in the 200s.
56:08
Speaker A
Incredibly intelligent, but very narrow focused.
56:11
Speaker A
I think we should from now on take people and their AIs.
56:15
Speaker A
And say the target is 300.
56:17
Speaker A
The target is 500.
56:18
Speaker A
The target is 700.
56:19
Speaker A
Elevate humanity.
56:21
Speaker A
Okay, by by allowing people to use those machines.
56:28
Speaker A
As an extension of their limited memory, of their limited processing speed.
56:35
Speaker A
Of their limited bandwidth.
56:37
Speaker A
Okay.
56:38
Speaker A
And allow them to write books better.
56:43
Speaker A
To do research better.
56:45
Speaker A
So I woke up, literally, I'm not kidding you.
56:50
Speaker A
Three Sundays ago with an idea that is just taking me over.
56:54
Speaker A
So I decided to write.
56:57
Speaker A
But this time, I decided to write in a different format.
57:01
Speaker A
I decided my books are going to be 140 pages long instead of 300 pages long.
57:06
Speaker A
And I'm writing writing it in four weeks.
57:08
Speaker A
That's a very fast.
57:10
Speaker A
I I couldn't have.
57:13
Speaker A
And I'm I'm actually literally 20 pages away from the end of the book.
57:18
Speaker A
Wow.
57:19
Speaker A
Right, and the and the reason why.
57:21
Speaker A
is because I still write 10 hours a day when I'm highly motivated.
57:28
Speaker A
But damn.
57:29
Speaker A
The amount of research and references and comparative analysis and number crunching.
57:38
Speaker A
And I, you know.
57:40
Speaker A
And remember, I'm not gullible.
57:42
Speaker A
I don't go to the AI and say, what do you think of this?
57:45
Speaker A
I go and say, I'm thinking of this, find me everything for and against.
57:52
Speaker A
Okay.
57:53
Speaker A
Give me a report that I can read in.
57:56
Speaker B
I love that prompt.
57:57
Speaker A
Yeah.
57:58
Speaker A
Everything for and against.
57:59
Speaker A
And now I'm smarter.
58:01
Speaker A
And then I rewrite it and give it to another AI.
58:06
Speaker A
You know, or Grock or whatever.
58:08
Speaker A
And and you keep doing that.
58:10
Speaker A
And remember, when I was studying engineering, we were not allowed scientific calculator.
58:16
Speaker A
Can you imagine?
58:17
Speaker A
I'm that old.
58:18
Speaker A
And when they gave me a scientific calculator.
58:23
Speaker A
It reduced my problem solving time by 50%.
58:27
Speaker A
Yeah.
58:28
Speaker A
Most of my friends would take that 50% extra, finish their exams and go out and sit with their girlfriends.
58:33
Speaker A
I would take the 50% extra and do the solution twice.
58:36
Speaker A
Right.
58:37
Speaker A
That's that chance you have today.
58:39
Speaker A
AI is going to make you dumb.
58:42
Speaker A
If you outsource your problem solving to AI.
58:45
Speaker A
AI is going to make you the smartest you've ever been.
58:49
Speaker A
If you take the parts that are not natural to the human brain, you know, things like crunching a massive amount of information.
58:57
Speaker A
Things like searching at at at speed.
59:01
Speaker A
And so on and so forth.
59:03
Speaker A
But get the AI to do the work.
59:06
Speaker A
So that you do the intelligence.
59:08
Speaker A
Yeah.
59:09
Speaker A
Right, and if you keep doing that, I believe that today I'm borrowing maybe 80 IQ points from my AIs.
59:15
Speaker A
Right.
59:16
Speaker A
And 80 IQ is points is very significant because IQ is is exponential.
59:22
Speaker A
So the additional 80 is bigger than all of my IQ.
59:27
Speaker B
So if we need to solve this intelligence problem, do you think universities is the right way?
59:31
Speaker B
What's going to happen to education in general?
59:33
Speaker A
I think education is over.
59:36
Speaker A
Completely over.
59:37
Speaker B
Like that's it.
59:39
Speaker B
No need to say anything.
59:40
Speaker A
I mean, education education used to be the technology that enabled learning.
59:44
Speaker A
That technology moved from one to one relationships between a tutor and a student to one to a few in a church format.
59:51
Speaker A
Or a mosque format or whatever.
59:54
Speaker A
Then it became online.
59:56
Speaker A
Then it became, right?
59:58
Speaker A
But the truth is now you're going to outsource.
60:01
Speaker A
Who remembers the arithmetic tables today?
60:03
Speaker A
Even I.
60:04
Speaker B
You do.
60:05
Speaker A
Yeah.
60:06
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah, all of us who love mathematics.
60:10
Speaker A
We still we still remember all of those things.
60:13
Speaker A
We love to do them.
60:14
Speaker A
But if I told you 67.4 divided by 33.375.
60:20
Speaker A
I can do it in my head.
60:22
Speaker A
But I won't.
60:23
Speaker A
Right.
60:24
Speaker A
I'll take my calculator out and do it.
60:26
Speaker A
And and I think that's what's going to happen.
60:28
Speaker A
That extension of humanity.
60:33
Speaker A
You now for the first time are given an extra connection to extra memory.
60:40
Speaker A
to an archive of all human memory and and and knowledge.
60:44
Speaker A
to a, um, you know, a mass engine that sadly.
60:50
Speaker A
As much as I hate to say it, is better than me now.
60:54
Speaker A
Okay.
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To a deep learning and deep search that, you know, that can do things.
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Speaker A
that probably my old brain cannot do anymore.
61:04
Speaker B
But again, it just takes you away your ability to think.
61:07
Speaker A
But but my calculator took away my ability to to do those complex arithmetic in my head.
61:14
Speaker B
But don't you think having that ability taught you how to think?
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Speaker B
Like kind of structured your brain, right?
61:21
Speaker A
Correct.
61:22
Speaker A
This is why I'm very very grateful to the university.
61:27
Speaker A
for not allowing us to use use a scientific calculator.
61:30
Speaker A
Right.
61:31
Speaker B
That's why I think.
61:33
Speaker A
But but we don't have that.
61:36
Speaker A
We don't have that for our younger generations today.
61:39
Speaker A
They are growing with AI.
61:42
Speaker A
Okay.
61:43
Speaker A
So they can either copy a chat of their girlfriend and drop it in ChatGPT.
61:49
Speaker A
And say, what do you think?
61:51
Speaker A
And ChatGPT will say, ah, she's an asshole.
61:53
Speaker A
Right.
61:54
Speaker A
Or they can actually become smarter.
61:56
Speaker A
So one of the things I keep suggesting in education, and I do that with lots of universities.
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Speaker A
Is I say, exams should be over.
62:04
Speaker A
Okay.
62:05
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So think of it this way.
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Speaker A
We wanted in our past to develop children that could solve problems, say, with an IQ of 140.
62:15
Speaker A
140 is quite good.
62:16
Speaker A
If you get 170, that's amazing.
62:18
Speaker A
You know, that's I worked with people who are in the 200s.
62:21
Speaker A
Incredibly intelligent, but very narrow focused.
62:24
Speaker A
I think we should from now on take people and their AIs.
62:28
Speaker A
And say the target is 300.
62:30
Speaker A
The target is 500.
62:31
Speaker A
The target is 700.
62:32
Speaker A
Elevate humanity.
62:34
Speaker A
Okay, by by allowing people to use those machines.
62:41
Speaker A
As an extension of their limited memory, of their limited processing speed.
62:48
Speaker A
Of their limited bandwidth.
62:50
Speaker A
Okay.
62:51
Speaker A
And allow them to write books better.
62:56
Speaker A
To do research better.
62:58
Speaker A
So I woke up, literally, I'm not kidding you.
63:03
Speaker A
Three Sundays ago with an idea that is just taking me over.
63:07
Speaker A
So I decided to write.
63:10
Speaker A
But this time, I decided to write in a different format.
63:14
Speaker A
I decided my books are going to be 140 pages long instead of 300 pages long.
63:19
Speaker A
And I'm writing writing it in four weeks.
63:21
Speaker A
That's a very fast.
63:23
Speaker A
I I couldn't have.
63:26
Speaker A
And I'm I'm actually literally 20 pages away from the end of the book.
63:31
Speaker A
Wow.
63:32
Speaker A
Right, and the and the reason why.
63:34
Speaker A
is because I still write 10 hours a day when I'm highly motivated.
63:41
Speaker A
But damn.
63:42
Speaker A
The amount of research and references and comparative analysis and number crunching.
63:51
Speaker A
And I, you know.
63:53
Speaker A
And remember, I'm not gullible.
63:55
Speaker A
I don't go to the AI and say, what do you think of this?
63:58
Speaker A
I go and say, I'm thinking of this, find me everything for and against.
64:05
Speaker A
Okay.
64:06
Speaker A
Give me a report that I can read in.
64:09
Speaker B
I love that prompt.
64:10
Speaker A
Yeah.
64:11
Speaker A
Everything for and against.
64:12
Speaker A
And now I'm smarter.
64:14
Speaker A
And then I rewrite it and give it to another AI.
64:19
Speaker A
You know, or Grock or whatever.
64:21
Speaker A
And and you keep doing that.
64:23
Speaker A
And remember, when I was studying engineering, we were not allowed scientific calculator.
64:29
Speaker A
Can you imagine?
64:30
Speaker A
I'm that old.
64:31
Speaker A
And when they gave me a scientific calculator.
64:36
Speaker A
It reduced my problem solving time by 50%.
64:40
Speaker A
Yeah.
64:41
Speaker A
Most of my friends would take that 50% extra, finish their exams and go out and sit with their girlfriends.
64:46
Speaker A
I would take the 50% extra and do the solution twice.
64:49
Speaker A
Right.
64:50
Speaker A
That's that chance you have today.
64:52
Speaker A
AI is going to make you dumb.
64:55
Speaker A
If you outsource your problem solving to AI.
64:58
Speaker A
AI is going to make you the smartest you've ever been.
65:02
Speaker A
If you take the parts that are not natural to the human brain, you know, things like crunching a massive amount of information.
65:10
Speaker A
Things like searching at at at speed.
65:14
Speaker A
And so on and so forth.
65:16
Speaker A
But get the AI to do the work.
65:19
Speaker A
So that you do the intelligence.
65:21
Speaker A
Yeah.
65:22
Speaker A
Right, and if you keep doing that, I believe that today I'm borrowing maybe 80 IQ points from my AIs.
65:28
Speaker A
Right.
65:29
Speaker A
And 80 IQ is points is very significant because IQ is is exponential.
65:35
Speaker A
So the additional 80 is bigger than all of my IQ.
65:40
Speaker B
So if we need to solve this intelligence problem, do you think universities is the right way?
65:44
Speaker B
What's going to happen to education in general?
65:46
Speaker A
I think education is over.
Topics:Mo GawdatAI innovationjob market shiftfuture of workeconomic transformationcapitalism redefinedAI accountabilityvirtual realityAI-generated contentSilicon Valley

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