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Charlie Kirk debates a college student on political issues including abortion, LGBTQ rights, and media bias in a campus open mic setting.

Key Takeaways

Open dialogue on political issues is essential for democratic engagement.
Substance in debate should be prioritized over personal or stylistic attacks.
There is disagreement on how laws impact the LGBTQ and transgender communities, especially regarding children.
Media bias influences perceptions and understanding of political issues.
Adults should have freedom of lifestyle while protecting children from premature exposure to certain ideologies.

Summary

Charlie Kirk engages in a campus open mic debate addressing political topics with a college student.
Discussion covers voter responsibility and the future of Western civilization.
The student challenges Kirk on abortion rights and Republican Party policies.
Kirk emphasizes the importance of open dialogue and substantive debate over personal attacks.
The debate shifts to laws affecting the LGBTQ and transgender communities, focusing on age and indoctrination concerns.
Kirk asserts adults should live freely but children should be protected from certain influences.
The student expresses nervousness and confusion about specific laws and media influence.
Kirk highlights the role of biased media sources in shaping public opinion.
Both parties agree on the importance of discussing policy substance rather than style or personal insults.
The conversation ends with a call for more open, fact-based political discourse to strengthen the country.

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Speaker A

Do you feel uh proud of yourself for debating college kids um who are unprepared to speak in front of an audience like yourself? Uh hold on, hold on, hold on. Um you're 30 years old. We we can agree you're 30 years old. Right? Do you think that's a little bit silly?

Speaker B

Are you a voter?

Speaker A

I am a voter. I'm a registered voter.

Speaker B

Oh, so I vote and you vote. So I'm talking to voters of this country that will determine the future of Western civilization.

Speaker A

That's what I'm doing here today. Yeah.

Speaker B

Wait, hold on. How is it any different than a professor talking to you?

Speaker A

Than a professor talking to you?

Speaker A

Who who are you?

Speaker B

Well, enough important enough for you to come up to a microphone.

Speaker A

Actually, when I first saw this ad, I thought it was like a like an improv comedy thing. It looked so ridiculous that I didn't even think it was real.

Speaker B

Well, no, you could see. Look how popular Trump is on your campus. How does that make you feel?

Speaker B

That's not comedy.

Speaker B

That that is a five alarm fire for Kamala Harris because she's probably going to lose Pennsylvania.

Speaker A

Look.

Speaker B

They can't give it.

Speaker B

But no, I just want to be clear. Is there something wrong with talking to voters?

Speaker A

No, there's nothing wrong with talking.

Speaker B

Well, that's what we're doing here today.

Speaker B

It's an open mic.

Speaker A

I think that you push a dangerous agenda.

Speaker B

Such as?

Speaker A

Your stance on uh abortion rights, for example.

Speaker B

There we go.

Speaker C

Somebody ask a question.

Speaker C

What is what is your name?

Speaker A

Gene.

Speaker C

Gene, and what is your understanding of the current Republican Party's stance?

Speaker C

on federal intervention in abortion?

Speaker A

Well, I know that they want to bring it back to the states, right?

Speaker C

So the so it sounds like you do know that the Republican Party's current stance on abortion is they're against a federal ban on abortion.

Speaker A

I do understand that.

Speaker C

And we're talking about a presidential election as the important election that we're talking about here.

Speaker A

I understand that. Yes.

Speaker C

Great. So again, I I think this open dialogue is great.

Speaker C

I think it's great you're here challenging Charlie, and I think it's great that he's willing to travel campuses across this country to talk to the next generation.

Speaker C

We need more conversation.

Speaker C

Now, where's the disagreement though on content?

Speaker C

Because you could criticize style or why you're talking to people or dump on someone personally.

Speaker C

But where do you actually disagree with the substance?

Speaker A

I agree with the way that you edit content and specifically frame it so that people look bad talking to you.

Speaker B

We post unedited content.

Speaker A

You

Speaker A

The way that you edit your content.

Speaker C

Let me just let me just ask you one thing though.

Speaker C

Because we can personal personal insults can fly in all directions.

Speaker C

Where is an area where you have a disagreement with the conservative movement, with Donald Trump, with Charlie Kirk, perhaps with myself?

Speaker C

I was a presidential candidate last year.

Speaker C

I think we need to talk about that more in the open.

Speaker C

And the more we do, the stronger our country's going to be.

Speaker C

We got a long line of people, but I want to hear from you.

Speaker C

One substantive area where you have an authentic disagreement.

Speaker C

And I'd be glad to address it, I'm sure Charlie would too.

Speaker A

Just in any.

Speaker C

Anything.

Speaker C

Relating to any political topic where you have a disagreement, let's air it.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

Um, I disagree with uh the some of the uh laws that are being pushed in Congress.

Speaker A

Um, that are against the LGBTQ community and the trans community.

Speaker C

Okay.

Speaker C

So let's talk about that.

Speaker C

I'm going to give you my view.

Speaker C

And then I want to hear yours.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker C

My view is that if you're a fully grown adult, 18 or above.

Speaker C

You're free to live how you want, dress how you want.

Speaker C

Marry who you want if you want.

Speaker A

I agree.

Speaker C

If you're over the age of 18.

Speaker C

But you are not free to indoctrinate children in schools who are not yet of the age of consent.

Speaker C

You are not free, just as you're a 17-year-old or a 15-year-old can't get a tattoo on their own.

Speaker C

I don't think that you should be able to go to

Speaker C

until the age of 18.

Speaker C

And so the lines that I draw here is that men are free to claim to be women and swim in swimming pools.

Speaker C

You're not free to claim trophies in a women's sports competition.

Speaker C

You're not free to enter a women's locker room, you're not free to change a language, and you're not free to actually indoctrinate our children who are under the age of five in schools.

Speaker C

Do we agree on the fact that adults should be able to live freely while still treating children differently?

Speaker C

If so, we're on the same side of this issue.

Speaker A

Listen.

Speaker A

I agree with the majority of what you said.

Speaker A

However, I I don't think that you're understanding the um the implications of the laws that are trying to be passed.

Speaker C

Look.

Speaker C

We got a head start in the conversation, we got a long line behind you.

Speaker C

But my only ask is forget the personal attacks or the stylistic attacks.

Speaker C

Focus on substance, the more we debate that, the stronger we're going to be as a country.

Speaker C

Thank you for coming.

Speaker A

Thank you. I don't think you're focusing on substance though.

Speaker A

That's the issue.

Speaker B

Hold on.

Speaker B

He intentionally tried to provoke substance out of you.

Speaker B

And you said, well, I'm worried about some laws Congress should pass.

Speaker B

I have to ask what laws are you talking about?

Speaker B

Can you be specific?

Speaker A

I'm sorry, I'm very nervous.

Speaker A

But uh this is what you do. This is what you do.

Speaker A

You take people and you put them under the spotlight and you

Speaker B

Well, hold on. I I didn't I didn't ask you to come up here.

Speaker B

You voluntarily came to the front of the line.

Speaker B

You didn't have to do that.

Speaker A

You're purposely antagonizing people on campus.

Speaker A

Asking people to come up by spreading your weird agenda.

Speaker B

How?

Speaker B

What what agenda is?

Speaker B

I I'm confused though.

Speaker C

So Charlie, I'll say this.

Speaker C

We'll we'll end on this and we'll go to the next question.

Speaker C

When I was 18, and I'm not going to blame you for this.

Speaker C

I also took for granted a lot of the stuff that the media force fed me.

Speaker C

Because that's what you know at the age of 18.

Speaker C

You say there are some vague laws making their way through Congress that are hostile to trans community.

Speaker A

Do you know how

Speaker C

I don't think those laws actually exist.

Speaker C

But I don't blame you if that's what the cable media is feeding you.

Speaker C

But let's get to the specifics and then we're able to actually have an open dialogue.

Speaker C

And that's one of the things I've learned over the last 20 years.

Speaker A

I think that the issue is is we're getting our media from different sources.

Speaker C

Let me finish.

Speaker A

Both people are getting media from these skewed sources.

Speaker A

The facts that you're presenting are not always correct.

Speaker C

And that's why we're here with no TV screens between us.

Speaker C

So people who have policy-based substantive disagreements, we invite those.

Speaker C

I think that's how we're going to get our country back.

Speaker C

And as it relates to trans, which you brought up.

Speaker C

18 or above, you're free to live how you want.

Speaker C

You're not free to force that onto somebody else or especially kids.

Speaker C

And if we agree on that, we make some progress.

Speaker B

Thank you.

Speaker C

Thank you.

Speaker B

Disagreements, yeah.

Topics:Charlie Kirkcollege debateabortion rightsLGBTQ lawstransgender issuesmedia biaspolitical discourseopen micRepublican Partyyouth engagement

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the primary criticism leveled against Charlie Kirk by the student regarding his choice of debate opponents?

The student criticizes Charlie Kirk for debating college kids who are unprepared to speak in front of an audience, suggesting it's 'silly' for a 30-year-old to engage in such debates. The student implies that Kirk is taking advantage of their inexperience.

What is the student's main concern about Charlie Kirk's agenda?

The student believes Charlie Kirk pushes a 'dangerous agenda,' specifically citing his stance on abortion rights as an example. This concern highlights a substantive disagreement with Kirk's political views.

How does the student criticize Charlie Kirk's content presentation?

The student criticizes the way Charlie Kirk edits and frames content, specifically stating that it makes people look bad when they are talking to him. This suggests a concern about the fairness and accuracy of how interactions are portrayed.

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