Two Things You Can Do To Stop Ruminating — Transcript

Dr. Tracey Marks explains rumination, its impact on mental health, and offers two practical strategies to stop ruminating.

Key Takeaways

  • Rumination is repetitive negative thinking linked to depression and anxiety.
  • Mindfulness practice reduces rumination by focusing on the present.
  • Creating an if-then plan helps interrupt rumination with constructive activities.
  • Cognitive behavioral therapy can reframe rumination into concrete problem-solving.
  • Behavioral strategies are accessible and can be effective even without formal therapy.

Summary

  • Rumination means repeatedly running negative thoughts through your mind, common in depression and anxiety.
  • It differs from intrusive thoughts, as rumination involves brooding over thoughts rather than avoiding them.
  • The default mode network in the brain is overactive during rumination, linked to unhappiness.
  • Mindfulness helps by focusing attention on the present moment and turning off the default mode network.
  • An if-then action plan helps identify physical signs of rumination and prescribes activities to distract from it.
  • Suggested activities include guided meditation, crafts, gratitude journaling, walking, and problem-solving.
  • Writing down if-then statements makes the plan more effective and easier to follow.
  • Rumination-focused cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) can shift abstract negative thinking to concrete problem-solving.
  • Therapy helps examine specific details of negative interactions to reduce self-blame and improve coping.
  • Behavioral approaches can be tried independently, but professional CBT offers deeper help.

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Hi, I'm Dr. Tracey Marks and I make mental health education videos.
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Today's video is based on a viewer question from SS Rose: Can you do a video on ruminance? Not sure I spelled that correctly.
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I've had times where my brain isn't shutting off even in sleep. I can still hear my thoughts.
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Can you go more into detail about this?
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Thanks for the question, SS.
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The term ruminate means to run a thought over and over in your mind.
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This is the figurative definition, the literal definition refers to cows regurgitating their food to chew it over and over.
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Rumination is not a diagnosis all to itself.
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We see it in depression and anxiety.
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Rumination causes people to get stuck in their thoughts and even feel stuck in the negativity of their condition.
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Typical negative depressive ruminations may be things like, why do I always get the short end of the stick?
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Or why can't I be happy like everyone else?
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Anxious ruminations tend to be worrying about things that happened in the past.
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Like analyzing past situations and worrying about what kind of impression that you left.
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Or what the what that person meant by that.
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At the time that she said what she did, you didn't think much of it, but when you get to the end of the day and start ruminating over the interaction.
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What the person said takes on a completely different meaning.
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And it's usually a negative meaning.
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In both scenarios, it's repetitive, unhelpful, negative thinking.
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And this is different from deconstructing a past situation so that you can process it and problem solve.
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In that case, analyzing the past is constructive and you're you're not stuck thinking only about the negative aspects of the situation.
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Why does this happen?
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It's thought to be related to the overactivation of the default mode network in your brain.
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I talk about this in a video I did on mindfulness and depression.
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The gist of it though, is that the default mode network is the area of the brain that controls stimulus independent thought.
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Said another way is that it's the area of your brain that controls what you're thinking when you're not actively focused on something.
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It's like background thought.
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Studies have shown that people are more unhappy when they spend a lot of time with their minds wandering.
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Functional MRI scans looking at brain activity show that the default mode network in your brain is more activated when you're ruminating.
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What's the difference between this and intrusive thoughts?
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Intrusive thoughts are thoughts that pop into your mind when you don't want them to.
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And you're usually trying not to think about them, but they intrude and interrupt what you're thinking about.
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And this is different from rumination where you tend to settle into the thoughts and brood over them.
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You may not like them because they make you feel bad, but you're not working that hard to avoid them.
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And in some cases, you may even welcome them because some people feel like they need to think about these things.
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What do you do about this?
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Two things.
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One is to spend more time being mindful.
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Mindfulness is the practice of being fully present in your current circumstance without judgment.
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If you bring your attention to what you're currently doing and how it's affecting all of your five senses, you now have dependent thought.
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Because you're actively paying attention to something.
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Your default mode network where you spend time ruminating is turned off.
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For more information on mindfulness, check out this video that I did on mindfulness.
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I also have a body scan audio download that goes along with that video.
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I'll put a link for that in the description.
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If you're part of my email community, you already have it in your inbox.
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The second thing you can do is develop an if-then action plan.
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The first part is creating a list of outward signs that you're ruminating.
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And this is what you're feeling at the time.
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Since you can get lost in your head, you may not always be aware of what you're feeling.
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Some outward signs are things like rocking, fidgeting, feeling your heart race.
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You may even start to get a headache.
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Take note of your signs so you can easily recognize when you're in this state.
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Then you want to write a plan for what you're going to do when you notice that you're ruminating.
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So you want to turn to an activity that will distract you from the rumination.
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These activities can be relaxing like listening to a guided meditation or doing a craft.
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Or putting entries into your gratitude journal.
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It could be a task like taking a walk, going grocery shopping.
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If you like to grocery shop.
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Or it could be problem solving like, for example, if you're under a lot of stress.
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And you have a lot of things that you're juggling.
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You may start ruminating about worst case scenarios.
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Instead, you can set aside time that you can use to brainstorm some solutions.
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Then you want to form your if-then statements with these two pieces of information.
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You want to write this down to make it official.
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You don't want to keep it all in your head.
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After all, you're trying to get out of your head.
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So you want to write, if I notice that I'm feeling tension in my neck, I'll spend 10 minutes listening to a guided meditation.
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There's apps like Calm and Headspace where you can listen to meditations.
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But what do you know?
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I just happened to have a progressive muscle relaxation audio that you can download.
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I'll put a link for that in the description.
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If you're part of my email community, you already have it in your inbox.
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Another if-then scenario is, if I start to feel lightheaded and nauseous.
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I'll go for a walk outside or practice some yoga poses.
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You want to come up with as many of these as you can because you definitely want to cover all of your rumination trigger signs.
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But for each sign, you may want to have two or three activities that you can engage in so you can have some variety.
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Now, this is just a simple exercise that you can get started on to help distract yourself from the rumination.
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And this would be a behavioral approach to dealing with it.
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But there is a cognitive therapy called rumination focused cognitive behavior therapy to help you further with this problem.
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And one of the approaches of the therapy is to help you change the focus of your ruminations from abstract thinking to more concrete thinking.
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So for example, suppose you're having marital problems.
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You have an argument with your spouse and you start thinking.
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Why can I ever get my needs met?
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Why can't I be happy like my friends?
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And these are broad, sweeping, abstract generalizations that can take on a self-loathing tone.
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And you can have an argument and start focusing on self-blame or self-pity.
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In this case, a therapist would help you focus on the details of the negative interaction that you had with your spouse so you can examine the details of what actually happened and process it at that level.
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You may even find things that you could do differently next time.
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Yes, this requires a therapist skilled in cognitive behavior therapy.
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But even without formal therapy, you can give the behavioral approach a try to see if it helps.
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Subscribe to my channel to keep up with mental health topics.
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See you next time.
Topics:ruminationmental healthdepressionanxietymindfulnesscognitive behavioral therapydefault mode networkmental health educationstress managementbehavioral strategies

Frequently Asked Questions

What is rumination and how does it affect mental health?

Rumination is the repetitive, negative thinking often seen in depression and anxiety. It causes people to get stuck in their thoughts and feel trapped in negativity.

How does mindfulness help stop rumination?

Mindfulness involves focusing fully on the present moment and your current experience, which turns off the brain's default mode network responsible for rumination.

What is an if-then action plan for managing rumination?

An if-then plan involves identifying physical signs of rumination and deciding in advance what activities to do to distract yourself, such as meditation or walking, to break the cycle of negative thinking.

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