Steven Bartlett Thinks 'One Hundred Group' Aren't Going To Like What He Has To Say | Dragons' Den

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00:04
Speaker A
Hello Dragons.
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Speaker A
My name is João Andrade, I'm an ultra runner and the founder of 100 Group Limited.
00:14
Speaker B
Hello Dragons, my name is Camilo Franciscarcelli, I'm from Italy and I am the CEO of 100 Group.
00:21
Speaker A
Today we are here to offer you an exciting opportunity to invest 100,000 pounds for a 2% equity stake in 100.
00:30
Speaker A
I've been an entrepreneur for over 15 years, working 18-hour days, 120-hour weeks, mainly in biotech, and that took a toll on my mental and physical health, and so I decided to make significant changes in my life.
00:44
Speaker A
So I came across this race called the Badwater 135, which is worldly renowned as the world's toughest foot race.
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Speaker A
An ultramarathon held in the Death Valley in the United States, under scorching heat with temperatures rising up to 55 degrees.
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Speaker A
So that's
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Speaker A
135 miles.
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Speaker A
And I decided to complete that race.
01:05
Speaker C
Why?
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Speaker A
And
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Speaker A
And I came across the fastest growing sport in the world, trail running.
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Speaker A
And so when I left my previous company in 2019,
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Speaker A
I decided to start 100.
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Speaker A
After four years since we started the company, I was introduced to Camilo.
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Speaker B
I'm a newcomer.
01:23
Speaker A
He's a newcomer.
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Speaker A
He brings with him his vast experience organizing world championships for diverse sports and also working with the Olympic committees.
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Speaker B
And now we want to develop a trail running world championship.
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Speaker B
And we now have this year race in Brazil, then Portugal, and we have the final stage in Italy.
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Speaker B
In the next three years, we want to explode the competition in nine stages in other countries.
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Speaker B
In all the five continents.
01:47
Speaker A
Now, let's talk about our finances.
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Speaker A
We are projecting 12 million pound revenue by 2028.
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Speaker A
Last year we did 200,000 pound revenue.
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Speaker A
This year we are on our way to 500,000, and here we are with you today.
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Speaker A
To ask your help to drive the company to the next level.
02:02
Speaker C
A trail running world championship.
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Speaker C
Is the proposal from business partners João Andrade and Camilo Francky.
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Speaker C
They're seeking a 100,000 pound investment in return for a 2% stake in their company.
02:08
Speaker C
Peter Jones is the front runner with the questions.
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Speaker D
João, Camilo, hi.
02:11
Speaker A
Hi, Peter.
02:12
Speaker D
That was an interesting story.
02:14
Speaker D
So you obviously had a very stressful job.
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Speaker D
But then what you went on to do feels even more stressful.
02:19
Speaker D
Why on earth in your right mind would you go through a stressful life and then say,
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Speaker D
I'm now going to go and run 135 miles?
02:24
Speaker A
Because I had to fulfill my what I have here somehow.
02:27
Speaker A
And I don't think running Badwater 135 is the toughest endurance sport in the world.
02:32
Speaker A
I think the toughest endurance sport in the world is entrepreneurship.
02:35
Speaker D
Tell me about it.
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Speaker D
And that's why, to be fair, I don't go running.
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Speaker D
I see Sara on her social running 5K every day.
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Speaker D
She looks like she's half dead at the end.
02:43
Speaker E
That is not true.
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Speaker E
At least one of us gets up and goes for a run.
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Speaker E
You can't even run to the loo, Jones.
02:49
Speaker E
Right, guys.
02:50
Speaker E
So this is trail running.
02:52
Speaker A
Yes.
02:53
Speaker E
So are there other competitors in this sector doing a lot of trail running, or are you pioneering the trail running sector like ultra marathons are a sector?
02:59
Speaker A
Uh, we are pioneering in trail endurance,
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Speaker A
which is the long distance running, 100 kilometers and then 100 miles.
03:05
Speaker A
That's exactly why the company is called 100.
03:07
Speaker E
Right, okay.
03:08
Speaker E
Got that bit.
03:09
Speaker B
Yeah.
03:10
Speaker E
Commercial model.
03:11
Speaker E
What's your income stream?
03:12
Speaker E
Where's your revenue coming from?
03:13
Speaker B
Basically, it's on the the license.
03:15
Speaker B
So the license is something that we can compare to the Formula One way.
03:20
Speaker E
Okay.
03:21
Speaker B
Selling the possibility to bring a competition, one of the only nine races in the world.
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Speaker B
In nine magnificent spots.
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Speaker B
So the governments of the countries that we are dealing with are very interested to to to have the chance to be promoted in all the circuit.
03:33
Speaker E
Okay.
03:34
Speaker E
So if I just relay that back to you how I've understood it, the nine countries that you are selecting for the trails,
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Speaker E
you get the government of those countries to pay you to host the event there.
03:42
Speaker B
Right.
03:43
Speaker A
And broadcasting rights as well.
03:44
Speaker A
Because there are already 20 million athletes doing trail running.
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Speaker A
So already we have 20 million people that might be interested to watch the global competition that was missing.
03:52
Speaker E
And so just to check then, so you said you've done three of the nine races.
03:55
Speaker A
Yes.
03:56
Speaker E
So the way that you scale from where you are now to the 12 million that you're projecting in 2028 is to both scale the three races to a bigger level and to introduce the additional six.
04:02
Speaker A
Yes.
04:03
Speaker B
Yes.
04:04
Speaker E
Okay, I think I've got the model.
04:05
Speaker F
João, Camilo.
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Speaker F
I love this this area.
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Speaker F
And I love this area because I've observed in my friendship circle, suddenly,
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Speaker F
it seems like a significant percentage of my my friendship group have become into ultra athletics.
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Speaker F
I bought a road bike last week, I've been out riding, trying to do 140 kilometers,
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Speaker F
because I'm going with my girlfriend from London to Bordeaux.
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Speaker F
So I've been training.
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Speaker F
Um, very much into this space.
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Speaker F
And I really, really believe it represents the future.
04:25
Speaker F
So who do you compare yourself to in terms of a comparable brand in the ultra athletic space?
04:28
Speaker A
Well, if we look, for example, into triathlon,
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Speaker A
you might have heard of Ironman.
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Speaker F
Ironman.
04:34
Speaker A
So what Ironman did for triathlon is what we want to be doing for trail running.
04:38
Speaker F
Okay, so can you give me a view of their performance financially?
04:41
Speaker A
So they're almost a billion dollar brand.
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Speaker A
I think they generate close to 150 million dollars in revenue.
04:47
Speaker D
Can I just say that, just just take me through this because this is the bit I don't get.
04:50
Speaker D
So when you look at the sports and you mentioned Formula One,
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Speaker D
when you look at those sports and you see the success,
04:56
Speaker A
Yeah.
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Speaker D
And there's obviously huge success because of the investment from the manufacturers that are participating.
05:01
Speaker A
Yes.
05:02
Speaker D
You know, you can see the the money that's been created from it.
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Speaker D
And then you've also seen the adoption and the following that that's brought.
05:08
Speaker A
Yes.
05:09
Speaker D
I get that because you've got a level of excitement.
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Speaker D
You've got a shortened time frame.
05:13
Speaker A
Yeah.
05:14
Speaker B
Yeah.
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Speaker D
You've got amazing cars.
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Speaker D
So you've got the glamour and the glitz.
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Speaker D
And then I'm about to turn on the television and watch a 21 and a half hour race.
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Speaker D
With three or four sort of people, what I'm trying to understand,
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Speaker D
how are you going to televise and make this exciting to watch?
05:28
Speaker A
There are different layers to that.
05:29
Speaker A
The first one, you mentioned something very important, manufacturers in Formula One.
05:32
Speaker A
So in trail running, you have the brands which are almost, some of them are almost solely dedicated to trail running already.
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Speaker A
So for example, trail running shoe market is worth 6.9 billion dollars today.
05:40
Speaker D
Yeah, now I get I get that.
05:41
Speaker D
And I get I'm talking about I'm sitting at home.
05:43
Speaker A
Yes.
05:44
Speaker D
In an armchair and I'm flicking over through a race with Lewis Hamilton and it's like nip and tuck and it's lots of noise, lots of excitement.
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Speaker D
Over to a trail race.
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Speaker D
How are you going to make it exciting?
05:52
Speaker A
That's where I wanted to get to.
05:54
Speaker A
Because these brands,
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Speaker A
so for example, you have Salomon.
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Speaker A
You have now the Nike Trail team, the Adidas Terrex team,
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Speaker A
just for trail running.
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Speaker A
So these trail running shoe manufacturers have their own teams.
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Speaker A
And not only the athletes are competing, but now the teams are competing for the ranking as well.
06:10
Speaker F
There's so many things that you could possibly do here.
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Speaker F
I'm trying to figure out like if it becomes the billion dollar competitor you described earlier,
06:18
Speaker F
or it becomes meh based on the core competence of the founders.
06:21
Speaker A
Completely agree.
06:22
Speaker F
But the branding's not great.
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Speaker F
The logo isn't great.
06:25
Speaker F
So I looked over at that and I thought, okay, maybe they're not very good at like brand marketing.
06:28
Speaker F
And branding generally, and that's a big part of it.
06:30
Speaker F
You want to you want to strike at the heart of culture.
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Speaker F
This takes off maybe because you get a Netflix deal or something like that.
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Speaker F
And then it'll just catch culture and off it becomes culturally relevant.
06:37
Speaker F
Everyone, Tom, Dick and Harry influencer wants to do it.
06:39
Speaker A
For sure.
06:40
Speaker F
So to get that, you have to understand culture, and the only way that I could see for you to understand culture was by looking at that brand.
06:43
Speaker F
And I go, they don't quite get it.
06:44
Speaker F
They don't, you know what I mean?
06:46
Speaker A
One section we need help is exactly what's at the core of the company,
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Speaker A
which is communication.
06:51
Speaker F
So you you need help and you're offering 2%.
06:53
Speaker A
Yes.
06:54
Speaker B
Yeah.
06:55
Speaker F
I love it.
06:56
Speaker F
I believe in it, I think it represents the future.
06:58
Speaker F
The challenge is this 2% thing.
06:59
Speaker A
Okay.
07:00
Speaker F
Immediately becomes not interesting.
07:01
Speaker F
You're not even close there.
07:02
Speaker A
What could be appealing to you to get involved?
07:04
Speaker D
What's your feedback to Stephen's offer?
07:05
Speaker A
I wanted to make a counter offer.
07:06
Speaker F
Okay.
07:07
Speaker A
Before coming here, of course, we study very well the profiles for everyone.
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Speaker A
In your case, particularly, this element of communication.
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Speaker A
And we see the importance of digital marketing, social media.
07:15
Speaker A
So my counter offer is, if we could go back to 100,000 pounds,
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Speaker A
we give you 5% of the company and 3% royalty on sales until you recover your money.
07:24
Speaker F
I'll do I'll do 100K cash investment.
07:25
Speaker F
For 5% of the company and a 5% royalty until the cash is recovered.
07:29
Speaker A
Done.
07:30
Speaker F
Done.
07:31
Speaker A
Yep.
07:32
Speaker F
Cool.
07:33
Speaker F
Thank you.
07:34
Speaker E
Gosh.
07:35
Speaker F
Appreciate it.
07:36
Speaker A
Thank you.
07:37
Speaker F
Thank you so much.
07:38
Speaker F
Well done.
07:39
Speaker D
In the blink of an eye,
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Speaker D
a hasty João accepts Stephen Bartlett's offer without waiting to hear what the other Dragons had to say.
07:44
Speaker E
You have four other Dragons.
07:46
Speaker A
What about you?
07:47
Speaker E
No, no, you've got your deal.
07:48
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah.
07:49
Speaker A
Let me say something to that.
07:50
Speaker A
I was looking at Stephen and thinking he really wants to be involved in helping with the main element that we are looking for.
07:56
Speaker A
That's why we've taken the deal.
07:57
Speaker E
That's it.
07:58
Speaker F
Thank you so much.
07:59
Speaker D
No, João, I was going to offer you all of the money for 2%.
08:02
Speaker E
Yes.
08:03
Speaker D
Do you know what?
08:04
Speaker D
I'm shocked.
08:05
Speaker A
Thank you.
08:06
Speaker A
Thank you.
08:07
Speaker A
We took Stephen's offer because we knew exactly what we are looking for in terms of cash and expertise.
08:12
Speaker A
When we see one person very excited and the others thinking too much, the deal is on the table, we don't we cannot miss it.
08:19
Speaker A
Because sometimes the conversations change in Dragons' Den and then everybody is out.
08:23
Speaker A
So that's why I took the offer before different conversations could take things downhill.
08:27
Speaker B
What is very important for us that we have Stephen in the team.
08:29
Speaker B
That's absolutely correct.
08:30
Speaker E
I'll tell you what though, I'm going to use that strategy again.
08:32
Speaker E
When you've got four other Dragons poised waiting to make an offer and you just get up and offer your hand out.
08:36
Speaker F
There you go.
08:37
Speaker E
Straight in.
08:38
Speaker F
Perfect.
08:39
Speaker E
We'll call it the Stephen Bartlett move.

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