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The age of men is over, the time of the orc has come.
Exploring Tolkien's lore on how orcs breed, this video examines theories from corrupted elves to orc reproduction methods in Middle-earth.
Key Takeaways
- Orcs likely reproduce sexually, as corrupted elves, with both male and female individuals.
- Morgoth could not create life independently, so orcs are twisted versions of existing beings.
- Female orcs are rarely mentioned and possibly hidden, similar to dwarven women.
- The idea of orcs being artificially grown is popularized by films but not confirmed in Tolkien's texts.
- Tolkien's evolving views and sparse lore leave orc reproduction an open and debated topic.
Summary
- Tolkien's writings on orc reproduction are ambiguous and evolved over time without a definitive answer.
- One early theory suggests orcs were created directly by Morgoth as a mockery of elves, implying they might not reproduce sexually.
- Later Tolkien rejected the idea that Morgoth could create life, supporting the theory that orcs reproduce similarly to elves, with both males and females.
- Orc females may be rare and hidden, similar to dwarven women, rarely seen outside their communities and primarily responsible for breeding.
- The video discusses the possibility that orcs reproduce sexually, as indicated by references to orcs multiplying 'after the manner of the Children of Ilúvatar.'
- Another theory, influenced by the movies, is that orcs might be grown or bred artificially, such as the Uruk-hai being created in mud-like cocoons.
- Tolkien emphasized that only Eru Ilúvatar can create life, so orcs are likely corrupted elves rather than independently created beings.
- The video considers the ambiguity of orc lineage terms like 'son' in The Hobbit, which may be literal or figurative regarding leadership succession.
- The rarity of female orcs in Tolkien's writings aligns with his general sparse depiction of women outside major characters.
- Overall, the video highlights the complexity and uncertainty surrounding orc reproduction in Tolkien's legendarium.
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In the works of J.R.R. Tolkien, the exact process of orc reproduction is a bit of a gray area.
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However, we do get some hints in different areas to how this race managed to survive.
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So, I shall try and wade through those texts today to find us an answer.
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There countless became the hosts of his beasts and his demons, and the race of the Orcs, bred long before, grew and multiplied in the bowels of the earth.
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Now, the matter of how orcs reproduce in Tolkien's creations presents several varied explanations.
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Tolkien tended to alter his perspective over the years, never arriving at a singular concrete answer before his death.
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So, what are these diverse theories?
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Let us start by delving into the depths of The Fall of Gondolin.
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How it came ever that among men the Noldoli have been confused with the Orcs who are Melko's goblins, I know not.
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Unless it be that certain of the Noldoli were twisted to the evil of Melko and mingled among these Orcs.
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For all that race were bred by Melko of the subterranean heats and slime.
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Their hearts were of granite and their bodies deformed; foul their faces which smiled not, but their laugh that of the clash of metal.
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And to nothing were they more fain than to aid in the basest of the purposes of Melko.
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The greatest hatred was between them and the Noldoli, who named them Glamhoth, or folk of dreadful hate.
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As we can see from this, it was at one point considered by Tolkien that Morgoth created the race of orcs himself as a way to mock the elves.
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That must mean that they cannot or do not breed as they can almost be considered to be carved out by some greater power.
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With this power being continued after Morgoth by his second in command Sauron and then later by Saruman as well.
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However, later in life, Tolkien changed his thoughts on this idea.
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And made it that in his world, Morgoth could not actually produce any life of his own.
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So that could well just take this option off the table already.
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What this means then, is that we go down the path of orcs being created solely by Morgoth, corrupting and mutilating already living elves.
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So, as elves breed sexually, then surely the basic form of life would not have changed that much.
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So that leads to orcs to breed in the same way.
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This meaning that there are actually both male and female orcs, just as there would have been both male and female elves.
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Something that backs up this theory is from The Silmarillion, where it says:
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And thus did Melkor breed the hideous race of the Orcs in envy and mockery of the Elves, of whom they were afterwards the bitterest foes.
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For the Orcs had life and multiplied after the manner of the Children of Ilúvatar; and naught that had life of its own, nor the semblance of life, could ever Melkor make since his rebellion in the Ainulindalë before the Beginning.
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So surely to multiply in the manner of the Children of Ilúvatar means that they can only mean they were born in the same way too.
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A theory for the actual female orcs as well could even be that they were treated like the way that the dwarves treat the dwarven women.
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It's true, you don't see many dwarf women.
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And in fact, they are so alike in voice and appearance that they're often mistaken for dwarf men.
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The basic idea of this would be that the orc women would not be seen by other races, as they would either not travel much.
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Fight in battles.
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Or really get involved in anything outside of their own race.
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So they would basically just stay in their homes or caves or mud pits or whatever.
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And almost be there solely for the responsibility of breeding.
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Which, when you think about it, would not be the most unrealistic thing to think when the orcs are a race that have spawned out of just mockery and darkness.
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In a world where you have talking trees, dragons, fire demons.
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Would this really be the most unrealistic aspect of Middle-earth?
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I don't think so.
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To further back this point up too, when you look at Tolkien's writings, you see that although there are obviously women in the world.
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I mean, you have the great ones like Eowyn, Arwen and many more.
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They are very scarcely written about in the grand scheme of it all.
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So, for orc women not to be talked about too much, again makes sense with the way that Tolkien wrote things.
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Or to add one more bit to this.
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There is a very good possibility that even if they went into wars and they did fight alongside the men.
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By the time you put armor on them, they very well just looked so alike to male orcs.
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That no one would ever know the difference either way.
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Now let's move on to another option.
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And again, a lot of this is a bit of me theorizing.
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So it, you know, could be taken as a bit of a what if kind of question.
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But anyway.
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If orcs could not or simply had no interest in breeding sexually, then another option is that they were simply just grown.
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This is the pathway that the legendary trilogy seemed to wander down.
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We see that the Uruk-hai are pulled from the mud in the movies, almost like they've been grown in a cocoon.
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And then dug out when they're ready.
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But how does this work?
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Is it magic?
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Seedlings?
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Something like a potion recipe?
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What about if you plant an orc bone, give it enough water?
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Then five more grow in its place.
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Okay, now yes, that one does sound a bit stupid.
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But technically, these aren't ever rolled out as options, as much as they may be clutching at straws, it is not confirmed otherwise at the same time.
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You may wonder though.
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Why is this the case?
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Was this subject purposely avoided, or was it just a subject that didn't seem to hold much importance to Tolkien himself?
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I personally think it is the case of, if we think again to one of the many changes Tolkien made in his time.
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We've got to remember back to the beginning, where we have that first point of how only Eru Ilúvatar could create new life.
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None of the other Valar, not Melkor.
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No one else except Eru.
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And that was something that Melkor was extremely jealous of.
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This power came from the secret fire, also known as the Flame Imperishable.
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And that is the same one that Gandalf says he is a servant of when he fights against the Balrog.
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I'm a servant to the secret fire.
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So it is impossible for them to just be created as such, most likely circling back to the point of earlier.
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Orcs are a mockery of elves, having twisted those beings from being the fair children of Ilúvatar into the orcs that we all know and fear.
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Most likely, keeping their reproductive methods the same in that way.
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Do you think that this has helped clear things up at all for you?
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Well, let me add another point that may or may not add more confusion to this subject.
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If we take a side step for a moment.
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Let's have a look at The Hobbit.
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It mentions that the commander that leads the orcs is called Bolg.
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And Bolg is the son of Azog.
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He obtains Azog's position and army when his dad is slain by Dáin Ironfoot.
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So, that implies that some orc power comes down to basically a family lineage.
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Just like humans would.
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But, it could also be fair to think that the wording is a non-literal use of the word son.
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And that meaning, as Bolg was Azog's next in line as commander, they just spoke of him like a son.
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This is something I believe more people might lean towards, as by the time Tolkien wrote The Lord of the Rings, any types of sons, fathers, children.
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When talking about orcs, have no mentioning at all.
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But now, one last point in this subject.
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Comes from a letter from the man himself, J.R.R. Tolkien, as he wrote to a Mrs. Munby in 1963.
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In response to a few questions that her son had.
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There must have been orc-women.
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But in stories that seldom if ever see the Orcs except as soldiers of armies in the service of the evil lords we naturally would not learn much about their lives.
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Not much was known.
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So, from Tolkien's own mouth, or hand, I guess.
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There must have been orc women.
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But not much was known.
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Even to him.
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So there we have it, this was a stranger to research and write about.
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And I hope it was at least interesting to listen to.
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In our quest to understand the breeding habits of orcs in Tolkien's expansive universe, we have ventured through various theories and texts that offer hints but no definitive answers.
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From the possibility of orcs being twisted as a mockery of elves created by Morgoth, which hints at conventional reproductive methods.
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To the unsettling narratives of cross-breeding initiated by figures like Saruman.
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Either way, the theories tend to be a bit dark.
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Even Tolkien himself seemed to grapple with the exact nature of orc reproduction.
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Leaving room for interpretation and further exploration.
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While the depiction of familial connections in orc society, as evidenced by characters like Bolg and Azog, hints at some form of lineage.
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It also thickens the plot in this intriguing discussion.
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The breeding habits of orcs in Tolkien's world have and will remain a mystery.
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One that invites readers to delve deeper into the rich, complex and sometimes ambiguous world that Tolkien crafted.
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But these are the kind of mysteries that just lead us all to be massive fans of Tolkien's work.
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And keeps his world going strong after all of these years.
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With that now though, it is time for my question of the day, which is:
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Which theory do you lean towards to do with orc breeding?
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Topics:OrcsTolkienLord of the RingsMiddle-earthOrc reproductionMorgothElvesUruk-haiThe SilmarillionThe Hobbit
