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the imbalance, Michael, is horrifying.
Epstein survivors’ attorney criticizes DOJ’s sloppy document release, highlighting failures in redaction and investigation of abusers.
Key Takeaways
- DOJ’s document release process was flawed and lacked survivor input.
- Critical information about abusers remains hidden due to excessive redactions.
- There is skepticism about the thoroughness of investigations into named individuals.
- The Epstein case sets a precedent for holding powerful figures accountable.
- Survivors continue to seek truth and justice amid systemic failures.
Summary
- Survivors feel the DOJ’s release of Epstein files was incompetent, intentional, and intimidating.
- Proper redaction protocols were not followed, leading to exposure of sensitive information.
- Attorney emphasizes the importance of survivor involvement in redaction instructions.
- President Trump’s reaction to Clinton depositions related to Epstein was noted as unusually empathetic.
- Democrats see Clinton depositions as a precedent for future testimonies, including Trump’s.
- Virginia Giuffre’s family highlights unredacted names of abusers in DOJ-released files.
- Many FBI interview notes (FD 302s) remain heavily redacted, obscuring critical information.
- There appears to be a lack of follow-up investigations on named abusers in the files.
- Historical failures to act on reports, such as Maria Farmer’s 1996 complaint, are paralleled.
- Survivors demand full investigations and transparency to achieve justice.
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Speaker A
And thanks for having me with you.
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but that's exactly how so many of the survivors feel.
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They feel that this is been incompetent.
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They feel that this has been intentional.
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And they feel this has been intimidating.
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And all those things have been just horrifying to so many of the survivors.
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And it doesn't make any sense.
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It is not that difficult to redact documents.
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If we just step back a minute and think about how is that
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How is that done?
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You take, let's say, two or three attorneys, and obviously you have to have multiple attorneys because there's so many pages.
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You give them clear instructions on what to redact.
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And that those clear instructions should have been developed with the survivors, the survivors attorneys.
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They were not.
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But even so, you give them clear instructions on what to redact.
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And then they redact.
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The individuals get redacted, the names, the identifying information.
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And then you have a supervisor, at least one supervisor, and perhaps two, go over the documents again and double check.
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But clearly that was not done.
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And it's it's a simple thing to do.
Speaker B
Some of the big news this week is the Clintons
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coming in for depositions.
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The President of the United States had what I would call an interesting reaction to that news.
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Take a listen to what he had to say.
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Mr President
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today
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we heard that the Clintons set deposition dates to testify before the House oversight committee.
Speaker C
Any reaction to that related to the Epstein question?
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I think it's a shame.
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I'll be honest.
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I always liked him.
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Her, yeah.
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She's a very capable woman.
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She was better in debating than some of the other people.
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I will tell you that.
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She was smarter.
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Smart woman.
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I hate to say it in many ways.
Speaker B
It's interesting, it's a level of empathy rarely expressed by this president.
Speaker B
And I wonder if it had anything to do with what Democrats on Capitol Hill are saying.
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Which is that this effectively sets a precedent.
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You have Ted Lou saying, we're absolutely going to have Donald Trump testify under oath.
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You have Maxwell Frost saying, it does set a precedent, and we will follow it.
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Donald Trump, all of his kids, everybody.
Speaker B
Do you think we ever see that day, Jennifer?
Speaker A
I don't think we'll see that day in the near future.
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I've hoped to see that day.
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But I really doubt that it will be very soon.
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I think that the Trump administration has so much power over whether or not he would testify.
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I think that would that's highly unlikely.
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But certainly it's a good precedent to set for everyone.
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Because this is what the survivors want.
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They want the truth.
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And the truth comes out when everyone is is investigated.
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Everyone gets a chance and everyone is pushed and pressed to give the facts.
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What they know and what they don't know.
Speaker E
You know, in the
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I I think the facts are very important.
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And yesterday at the White House, we've played some sound from the
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from the president talking about this investigation.
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Alicia just played the sound talking about the Clintons.
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And you know, he attacked Caitlyn Collins, a journalist from CNN.
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yesterday for asking what justice looks like for survivors.
Speaker E
And he didn't seem interested in the justice detailing what that would be.
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He's not saying move on because the survivors have gotten justice.
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And I I want to highlight Virginia Juffrey's family.
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This was today
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about the release of
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some documents from the Epstein files.
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We would like to note that in the new Epstein files that the DOJ released last week, there is a sworn deposition from Virginia made in a lawsuit.
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DOJ did not redact the names of most of the abusers Virginia named, and we wish to make sure that this is known.
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We are hopeful that more of her abusers' names will be released in future Epstein files from the DOJ and/or Epstein's estate.
Speaker E
From the family of Virginia Roberts Giuffre.
Speaker E
Why don't we know more of the names of the men
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and women that participated in the abuse and trafficking of these girls?
Speaker A
what I've seen so far in the documents are the FD 302s.
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And those are the interview notes between the FBI interviewing, when I say a survivor or a witness.
Speaker A
And those FD 302s that I've seen are completely blocked out.
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So the information would be in there.
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That's where it likely would be, they would talk about who they met with, who they had some kind of interactions with.
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But those it's blank.
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There's page after page of blank.
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But certainly in the news, there's been enough information about specific names.
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So I just I guess I really don't get it.
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That how can you say that there's no one to look at here?
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When also what's missing, it seems to be missing in the files are any effort to follow up.
Speaker A
Okay, you have Virginia Giuffre's clip and portion of her testimony.
Speaker A
Which I'm really glad you showed.
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Those are names.
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What did they do with those names?
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Did they meet with them?
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Did they get a deposition from them?
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Did they get documents from them?
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What did they do?
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It doesn't look like they did anything.
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Which just seems like what they did with Maria Farmer in 1996.
Speaker A
When she reported, she reported Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to the FBI in 1996.
Speaker A
And it looks like nothing was done there either.
Topics:EpsteinVirginia GiuffreDOJ document releaseredaction failuressurvivor justiceFBI FD 302Clinton depositionEpstein investigationMaria Farmerhuman trafficking
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