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And the trial over Open AI's move from non-profit to multi-billion dollar company is getting heated.
Elon Musk's heated trial over OpenAI's shift to for-profit highlights AI industry tensions and business evolution.
Key Takeaways
- The trial centers on OpenAI's controversial transition from non-profit to for-profit status.
- Musk was aware of the for-profit shift but disputes the manner and timing of the change.
- Significant capital is required to develop AI technologies, driving business model changes.
- The outcome could reshape leadership and funding in OpenAI and affect AI industry competition.
- Public perception of AI tools may influence the trial's jury and overall narrative.
Summary
- Elon Musk accuses OpenAI co-founders of betraying their original non-profit mission by converting OpenAI into a for-profit company after his departure.
- OpenAI counters that Musk was aware of the for-profit plans and only sued after failing to become CEO.
- The trial reveals tensions between Musk and OpenAI's lawyers, with Musk accusing them of misleading questioning.
- The evolution of AI from academic research to consumer-facing products required significant capital investment, prompting OpenAI's shift to a for-profit model.
- Musk acknowledged the need for more investment and even considered integrating OpenAI into Tesla.
- Musk seeks to revert OpenAI to a non-profit, demand billions for the non-profit arm, and push leadership changes.
- Such changes could impact the competitive AI landscape, affecting companies like Anthropic, Google, and Musk's own XAI.
- OpenAI lawyers challenged Musk on the nature of his businesses, highlighting that for-profit companies can still serve social good.
- The trial's next phase will feature OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as a key witness, potentially influencing jury perception.
- Public familiarity and general favorability toward AI tools like ChatGPT may shape jury attitudes differently than other tech trials.
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Speaker A
Elon Musk is accusing Open AI's co-founders of double-crossing him and stealing the charity they founded together by turning Open AI into a for-profit company after he left.
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But Open AI says Musk did know about the company's future plans and only sued after failing to become CEO.
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Now Musk is clashing with the company's lawyers on the witness stand, accusing them of asking misleading questions.
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ABC News contributor, Google Tech Policy fellow Mike Muse is here for more.
Speaker A
Mike, you say this is framed as a legal story, but really it's a tech business story, why?
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It is, because you look at the origins of artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence has been around since the 1980s up until the early 2000s.
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And it's been seen more on the back end from businesses and also from researchers.
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So you would see it in institutions like MIT, really trying to discover what is deep learning, what is machine learning.
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You saw it again in the back end of companies like Google.
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Using it for machine learning dynamics.
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It wasn't until you got to the 2010s where you began to see a shift.
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And you began to see a shift in these companies beginning to what's called doing deep learning and deep knowledge.
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That allows it to become in the in the consumer friendly product.
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That we know today as generative AI.
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But Diane, when you began to make that shift from academia to back-end use to front-end consumer use.
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You need more compute.
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And when you need more compute, that takes more investment.
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That takes more capital.
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I.e. more money.
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And also too, as this began to grow the sector business-wise.
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Companies began to poach other talented engineers.
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In order to grow and scale their companies.
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And so then you see Open AI come in as a non-profit research arm.
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Kind of coming around academia.
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But once they saw the shift and pivot, they knew they needed more money to invest in.
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Microprocessor chips and data centers.
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They needed more investments.
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In order to make the investment worthwhile for donors.
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They needed to convert over to a for-profit.
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And so that is how we got here and that is the evolution of artificial intelligence.
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And I think that's important part of this story.
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As our viewers are watching this trial.
Speaker A
As a tech guy, what do you think when you listen to Musk's testimony?
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Anything surprise you so far about how this trial is playing out?
Speaker B
Yeah, some of the things that surprised me how it was playing out is how Musk even recognized that the need for Open AI to possibly go for profit.
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He was aware of it.
Speaker B
As you mentioned in your opening statement that the tension began when Musk didn't become CEO.
Speaker B
But then also too, where evidence that was admitted into this trial where Musk was even considering maybe moving Open AI into Tesla.
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So there was a recognition that you needed more investments and that you needed more money.
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In order to grow the business.
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And I think for me that was going to be a very poignant part of the case.
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As part of this lawsuit, he wants Open AI to go back to being a non-profit.
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He wants billions of dollars to go into that non-profit arm.
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And he wants leadership changes at the top.
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What will that mean if it happens to the AI landscape in general?
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It it makes the competitive landscape much more appealing.
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For the competitors of Open AI.
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And we're talking about Anthropic.
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We're talking who has his claw service.
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We're talking about Google that has Gemini.
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And then we actually are actually talking about Elon.
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Elon's own AI company.
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Because yes.
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Elon Musk has Open AI.
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Excuse me.
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He has XAI.
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Um, which is a similar competitor to that.
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And so that really is the question is, is he doing this to eliminate the threat of Open AI?
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In order for his company to come into place.
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And in the courtroom, I found something really interesting where the lawyers for Open AI.
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They asked him, they said, hey.
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Of all your businesses that you use, Elon.
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Are they non-profit?
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And he said, no.
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And he said, but aren't they used for social good?
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And then he said, yes.
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So really examining and questioning that you can create a company that is for profit.
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That does benefit the social structure and goodness of humanity into what they're trying to solve for.
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He's off the stand now, but Elon could be called back.
Speaker A
What are you watching for as this trial moves on now?
Speaker B
What I'm looking for is now when Open AI begins to call their star witness.
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And that is going to be Sam Altman.
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And I think what's going to be interesting is how is the jury going to deliberate?
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And how are they going to hear this case?
Speaker B
Diane, you and I, we talked about the previous cases when you had other tech companies that was on trial.
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For harm that were done to children.
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Jurors can relate to that.
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Right, they want if they are a parent or they have a young child in their life.
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They want to make sure that young child is protected and safe.
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Open AI is different.
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Most of Americans and society has used Chat GPT.
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They have used possibly Claude, right?
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And so they see the benefit of it.
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They understand it.
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They may have a fear about displacement of the workforce.
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But in in the more nine out of ten, they tend to like Chat GPT.
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And so I think that is going to be a really important part and can Sam Altman drive that narrative.
Speaker B
Uh that they are doing good and that they needed more money in order for jurors to use the product more efficiently.
Speaker A
Interesting.
Speaker A
All right, Mike.
Speaker B
Thank you.
Speaker A
Thank you.
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