The Rachel Maddow Show - Jan. 12 | Audio Only

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Thanks, Stewart Home for joining us here this hour. Really happy to have you here. Now, I am not going to start here tonight where you think I might be starting.
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Um, but just hear me out, stick with me, you will see where this is going in good time.
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All right, today, uh, amid just the the blitz of headlines on what has been a gigantic news day following a gigantic news week, uh, you might not have noticed the news today. You might not have seen the headline today that today a federal court blocked the Trump administration from cutting energy funding just for blue states.
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This is billions of dollars Congress appropriated for clean energy projects of various kinds all over the country.
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Trump administration decided, and they admitted this, they decided that just in blue states, just in states that didn't vote for Trump,
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they would cut all of that funding. They'd leave the funding in place in states that voted for Trump.
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They would cut it in states that didn't vote for Trump.
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A federal court today ruled that that is illegal and stopped the Trump administration from doing that.
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That ruling today came after another federal court today stopped Trump from shutting down a big offshore wind farm in Rhode Island and Connecticut.
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Trump's shutdown of that project, according to the courts today, was also illegal.
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And so yet another federal court blocked Trump on that as well, so that work on the wind farm will be able to go ahead.
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Both of those rulings today follow last night yet another federal court blocking Trump.
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This time from cutting funding to the American Academy of Pediatrics.
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This is a doctor's group, a pediatricians group that criticized the flock of ducks level insane quackery.
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At Trump's Department of Health and Human Services under RFK Jr., Trump responded by canceling federal grants for the American Academy of Pediatrics.
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A judge has now ruled that that was illegal retaliation, and so Trump is blocked from doing that.
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That funding has to be reinstated.
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That ruling comes after another federal judge.
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Just blocked Trump from cutting off federal election funds to states in retaliation for them not changing their election rules.
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In ways that Trump wants. The judge said, quote, the Constitution assigns no authority to the president over federal election administration.
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And so Trump got black got blocked on on that one too.
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Shall I keep going? I could keep going.
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Uh, another federal court just blocked Trump from freezing billions of dollars for child care and social services for kids.
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Again, in Democratic run states as some kind of punishment against those states for electing Democrats.
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Punishing them for that by cutting off the temporary assistance to needy families program.
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Because, you know, you know, what would Jesus do?
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Trump was also just blocked from a by from doing that by by yet another federal court.
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It's it's almost like he is losing all the time and everywhere now.
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There there may still be people in America who are shocked that Trump keeps breaking the law over and over again, blatantly and insistently.
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The courts no longer appear to be shocked by that, and the courts now are just telling him no.
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Very bluntly every single day and often multiple times a day.
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And it's not even just the courts.
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Um, as I know you are aware, last week in in one 48-hour stretch, we had a Senate vote for a war powers resolution to block Trump from any further military adventurism in Venezuela.
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Five Republican senators crossed over to side with Democrats to pass that war powers resolution.
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It was enough to advance that, it's going to get another vote in the Senate this week.
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That came right on the heels of 17 Republicans in the House breaking ranks with Trump and siding with Democrats on the Affordable Care Act.
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To try to at least temporarily undo the disastrous decision Trump and Republicans made in their so-called big beautiful bill.
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The decision to send tens of thousands of American families health insurance rates through the roof.
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Seventeen Republicans crossed over, defied Trump and joined with Democrats to pass that health care matter in the House.
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Now it's going to come to the Senate. Trump is now whining about how he might have to veto it if and when it passes in the Senate as well.
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Because he definitely wants to make sure that people's health insurance premiums double or triple in cost.
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For nothing other than something that he personally did.
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He apparently wants that.
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I mean, what we've just seen in Congress is one of the worst rebukes Trump has had from congressional Republicans since he has been back in office.
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This whole disastrous year.
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And I got to tell you, this didn't get as much attention as it should, but right on the heels of that biggest rebuke that Trump has had in Congress.
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Those series of decisions both in the House and the Senate.
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Republicans crossing over to join with Democrats to rebuke Trump on multiple policy issues.
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Right on the heels of Trump the Senate giving Trump a one-finger salute on Venezuela.
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And the House giving him a one-finger salute on what he did to people's health insurance.
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This did not get enough attention.
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But did you see this?
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Look, headline, Congress is rejecting Trump's steep budget cuts to science.
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Lead, Congress is racing to undo thousands of cuts to federal science programs that President Trump called for last year.
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Trump is trying to cut the National Science Foundation 56%. Congress is now saying they will cut it less than 1%.
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Trump wanted to slash Noah, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
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You know, the weather.
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Congress's budget for Noah is no cuts to Noah, flat funding for Noah.
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Trump wants to cut basic research, which has been the lifeblood of American technological innovation since World War II.
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Trump wants to cut basic research more than 33%. Congress instead is bumping up their budget.
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Bumping up the budget for basic research by more than 2%.
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Trump is demanding all these cuts to science and Congress is saying no.
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And this is a bipartisan thing.
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This started in the Senate as a bipartisan agreement, last week the House voted for it as well.
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I know it's like like muscle memory to assume A that Congress does nothing and B if they ever defy that rule and do something, it's always something bad.
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But that is changing a little bit here.
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And it's changing all against Trump.
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And Republicans in the House are down to such a slim margin there now.
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That if every Democrat is present at the moment, Republicans can only afford one defection on any given vote.
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They can only give up one Republican vote in the House and still pass things that their leadership supports.
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And they know they're going to get walloped in the midterms.
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And with moderate Democrat Mary Peltola announcing today that she's going to run against the unpopular Republican Alaska Senator Dan Sullivan.
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That means that Democrats are getting pretty close to a shot at taking over the Senate in the midterms as well.
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They've got a shot at taking over the Senate.
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In addition to the near certainty that they will take over the House.
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We've got the courts pushing back harder and harder and now apparently losing that sense of shock they had.
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That the administration really is just blatantly breaking the law all the time, the courts are finally getting it.
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And pushing back and seeming to understand what it is they're up against.
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We've got the Congress, believe it or not, in some ways pushing back.
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While simultaneously Republicans are losing any hope of hanging on to power in Congress, it looks like the Democrats will be taking over.
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Today Democratic U.S. Senator Mark Kelly brought a new kind of fight against the Trump administration.
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He brought a high-powered lawsuit against Trump and against Pete Hegseth and the Rando art collector fundraiser guy.
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Who Trump inexplicably named to be Navy Secretary, Trump Senator Kelly is is suing to block their efforts to reduce him in rank.
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And dock his retirement pay for the grave crime of saying out loud the true statement that U.S. service members are supposed to disobey illegal orders.
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He's now suing them for that.
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Speaking of suing the Trump administration, the city of Chicago and the state of Illinois.
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And the state of Minnesota and the cities of St. Paul and Minneapolis have all brought major lawsuits tonight.
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Against the Trump administration to try to stop the attack by Trump's federal agents on those states and those cities.
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Trump's attack on Minneapolis in particular has been absolutely chaotic and bizarre.
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And totally incoherent, even more so in the wake of the killing of Renee Nicole Good last week by an Ice officer.
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Who who last week shot her three times through her windshield and her open driver side window.
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I mean, it's just been nuts in Minneapolis.
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In this one Minneapolis home, these totally out of control heavily armed officers broke down the door and rammed their way inside.
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As the homeowner demanded to see a warrant allowing them to enter, the Associated Press reporting tonight that those agents didn't have a warrant from a judge.
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Authorizing their forced entry into a private residence.
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But they just did it anyway into a home with kids inside.
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Apparently completely disregarding any applicable law.
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This was today in Minneapolis as well.
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A man named Christian Molina, a U.S. citizen, was driving south on 36th Street in South Minneapolis.
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He says he inadvertently made eye contact with an Ice officer who was lurking in an alley watching cars go by.
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The Ice agent then chased him and literally rammed his car into Mr. Molina.
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Rammed his car into Mr. Molina's vehicle into the rear driver side of his car and then demanded that Mr. Molina show his papers.
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Mr. Molina is a U.S. citizen.
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According to the Minneapolis Star Tribune tonight, quote, as agents confronted Christian Molina, dozens of community members came outside to disrupt them.
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The people who responded to that scene included a Minneapolis City Council member who told the paper that after Mr. Molina told the agents he knew his rights.
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And that this was an illegal stop and he didn't need to show them anything.
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And after all those people poured into the street to support this guy, the agents, I kid you not, what did they do?
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They set off two tear gas canisters in the street and then ran away.
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That was their contribution to public order and safety in South Minneapolis today.
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Here's another standoff from this weekend.
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A woman in Minneapolis ordered DoorDash, and Ice apparently chased the woman doing the delivery for DoorDash.
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Chased her into the customer's home where she was dropping off the food because she works for DoorDash.
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The homeowner in a fit of righteous rage absolutely stood her ground and told Ice that they were not coming into her home to get this woman.
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That they needed a warrant to do it and if they didn't have that warrant, she was not letting them in.
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And she called the cops on them, and she called her neighbors, and her neighbors came out.
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And everybody was standing there blowing whistles and yelling at them.
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And eventually they left, and they drove away without the freaking DoorDash driver.
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Who they were trying to pursue like she was Osama bin Laden into the caves, right?
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They fled, they left, they drove away after terrorizing everyone in that home and on that block.
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Even in today an hour outside Minneapolis, in St. Cloud, Trump's agents, dozens of them.
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Tried to muster some some kind of military style show of force at a mini mall parking lot.
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In St. Cloud, Minnesota. They were soon surrounded by hundreds of local residents telling them to get out.
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They were so overwhelmed with the way the neighborhood responded, Trump's agents got stuck there in the mini mall parking lot.
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A Democratic state senator had to intervene to ask the crowd to please let the federal agents leave because they otherwise couldn't.
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Finally, after about an hour, people allowed these tough guy masked agents to turn tail and leave with their tails between their legs.
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This is how they're conducting themselves.
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They would appear to have absolutely no clue what they are doing.
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This is not what professional immigration law enforcement looks like.
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What this looks like is military style weapons and gear given to masked unbadged secret police.
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Who appear to have learned their tactics by playing video games about real wars and fantasizing about being scary to women.
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And if they think by what they're doing, they are attracting people to their cause.
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Or intimidating people into not turning out to protest against them or into to not turning out to to watch what they're doing.
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To record what they're doing.
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Well, they are very seriously wrong about that.
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I mean, this is also today in Minneapolis, local school kids in Minneapolis on mass.
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Walking out of their school to tell Trump's federal agents to leave them alone.
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And get out of their town.
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Tonight we're going to talk about what Minnesotans are doing to try to protect their schools, forming human chains around Minnesota public schools.
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At pickup and drop off, the Wall Street Journal reporting this weekend on a surge in quote.
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Volunteers, many of them moms already involved in their schools, using Google Docs to divvy up tasks such as delivering groceries to immigrant families.
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Volunteers are on hand at drop off and pickup at schools with whistles to blow in case Ice agents show up.
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The Immigrant Defense Network telling the Washington Post that they have trained about 2,000 people total to be Ice observers in the Twin Cities.
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About 2,000 people total, but then the day after Ice killed Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis, they got a huge surge.
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They had 354 people show up in one day.
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The very next day.
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To be trained to be Ice observers.
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354 people showed up in one day.
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Here today is Minneapolis's mayor, Jacob Frey, flanked by the state attorney general and other state leaders.
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Talking about their big new lawsuit against the Trump administration.
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The mayor saying, quote, Donald Trump should know that as long as federal agents are in our city acting unconstitutionally against our neighbors.
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We will continue to push back with everything we've got.
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Here are Democratic members of Congress turning up at the local Ice detention facility.
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The local Ice jail in Minnesota, demanding to be let in.
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Because as members of Congress, they are allowed by law to inspect any federal facility like that at any time with no notice.
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But these members of Congress were nevertheless turned away.
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Today Democracy Forward went to court to force Ice and force the Trump administration.
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To let those members of Congress in because that in fact is the law.
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And again, if they were hoping that their shambolic and chaotic violence would dissuade Americans from standing up to them.
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Well, they do not understand Americans.
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They do not understand how we are wired.
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It is having the opposite effect.
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These were some of the huge protests.
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This weekend against Ice and Trump in Minneapolis.
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And it wasn't just in Minneapolis.
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It was literally everywhere.
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Over these last few days.
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This was downtown Colorado Springs, Colorado, where Renee Nicole Good is originally from.
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This was a big protest this weekend in New York City.
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Against Ice and against Trump.
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And it wasn't just big cities like Minneapolis or even New York City.
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This was Clayton, Missouri this weekend.
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Clayton, Missouri.
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This was Memphis, Tennessee this weekend.
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This was Washington D.C. this weekend.
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Including protests outside the White House. And hold that thought because there's something else that's going to be happening in Washington D.C. tomorrow.
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That you're going to want to know about.
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We'll have more on that in a moment.
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Uh, this was Boston this weekend, really big crowd in Boston protesting against Trump and against Ice.
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This was Carson City, Nevada this weekend.
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This was a protest this weekend in Huntington Beach, California.
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A famously Maga city in Southern California.
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People out this weekend there protesting against Trump and against Ice.
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This was a really big protest this weekend in Texas, San Antonio, Texas.
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This weekend there were big protests in Houston and in Dallas and in Fort Worth, but a big one in San Antonio.
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This was South Elgin, Illinois.
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This was Providence, Rhode Island this weekend.
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Last week we told you about locals in Roxbury, New Jersey protesting furiously and repeatedly.
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Against plans to build a new Ice facility in Roxbury, New Jersey.
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They protested this weekend against Ice and Trump.
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We're told that Roxbury's considering a resolution on that proposed Ice facility tomorrow.
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The mayor is expected to speak on it.
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This was Fairbanks, Alaska.
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Protest against Trump and Ice.
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The the temperature at this protest in Fairbanks was minus 25 degrees.
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And look at people turning out to protest against Ice.
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And the Trump administration.
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I have to tell you, I'm I'm only scratching the surface here.
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Usually when we have this many protests to cover all over the country.
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It's because there's been some long planned thing where people had weeks of notice, right, for some, you know, upcoming next big protest.
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That was true with the first No Kings Day and the second No Kings Day.
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Also the big hands off protest that happened last spring.
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People had weeks of notice for those, there was lots of national organizing around them.
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People had a chance to get ready and make their plans.
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What happened these last few days was not that.
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This was essentially spontaneous, a spontaneous reaction to the killing of Renee Nicole Good.
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And it happened everywhere, well over a thousand protests taking place.
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Over these last few days in every state in the country.
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And some of them, yes, were loosely organized under the same banner under the name Ice Out for Good, honoring Renee Good.
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But again, this was not a this was not a big long lead time national organizing thing.
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This was spontaneous and instinctual everywhere.
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And so today's one of those rare days.
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When I can actually show you the protests not by just me individually.
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Giving you like first person coverage of every protest by people who were in them.
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I can actually today show you media coverage and headlines about the protests.
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Because every news outlet in the country.
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Covered these protests over the past few days.
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They were big, they were instant, they were instinctual.
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They were spontaneous, they were self-explanatory, they happened for a clear and obvious reason that everybody in the country instantly and instinctually understands.
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And so every paper in the country.
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Every news source in the country had headlines like this.
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The Associated Press, anti-Ice protesters assemble across U.S.
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After shootings in Minneapolis and Portland.
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USA Today, thousands march in Minneapolis and elsewhere to protest Ice.
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New York Times, anti-Ice protests spread nationwide.
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CNN, anti-Ice protests held across U.S. after agents fatal shooting of a woman in Minneapolis.
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NPR, nationwide anti-Ice protests call for accountability after Renee Good's death.
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Daily Beast, anti-Ice protesters flood 500 cities days after Minneapolis killing.
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The Guardian newspaper in London, U.S. protests condemn Ice killing of Renee Good.
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And quote, a regime that is willing to kill its own citizens.
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Looking around the country, you see this everywhere.
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Salt Lake Tribune, Ice Out for Good protests unfold in Salt Lake City and other Utah cities.
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After Minneapolis killing.
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WFAA in Fort Worth, Texas, hundreds gather in Fort Worth for Ice Out for Good protest.
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In Nebraska, KETV, Ice Out for Good protest draws protesters to Central Omaha, Nebraska.
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KSHB in Missouri, a thousand demonstrators attend vigil and protest against Ice in Kansas City.
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Spot on Alabama, locals protest Ice shooting of Minneapolis woman outside Huntsville, Alabama City Hall.
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In South Carolina, WACH.
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Protesters at South Carolina State House demand justice for Renee Good, shot by Ice.
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In Kentucky, WLKY, hundreds gather in Louisville to protest after Ice agent fatally shoots women in Minnesota.
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Calo News or Calo News in Arizona, quote, she was assassinated.
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Tucson residents pour out in protest after Ice kills Minnesota woman.
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The Bonner County Daily B in Idaho, over 200 attend Sandpoint, Idaho, Ice Out for Good protest.
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WSYX in Columbus, Ohio.
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Killing our own citizens, Ohio protesters call for Ice to leave.
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Outraged by shootings.
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WTXL in Tallahassee, Florida, protest and vigil at Florida State Capital after deadly Ice confrontation in Minnesota.
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I mean, all over the country.
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Wichita, Kansas, Charleston, West Virginia, East Cobb, Georgia, Rapid City, South Dakota.
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Everywhere.
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The American people are reacting instinctively to what Trump is doing to us now.
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The American people are using their small D democratic muscle memory to respond reflexively.
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To what is happening, to use our right of free of free speech, our right to freedom of assembly, to use it to say no.
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And from this point that we're in, this place of profound weakness for this historically unpopular president.
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No president at this point in his second term has had approval ratings this low other than Richard Nixon.
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And at this point in Richard Nixon's second term, he was less than a year away from resigning.
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From this point of profound weakness and unpopularity for this president, fueled by near universal moral revulsion at what he is doing to the American people.
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Something that he apparently thinks he should respond to by becoming more extreme and more violent.
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And more morally repulsive, thus radicalizing more and more American citizens against him every day.
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From this point of profound weakness.
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And political malpractice.
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Now he has decided to take a wild swing at the American economy and the U.S. dollar.
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By threatening the chair of the Federal Reserve with criminal prosecution.
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Fed Chair Jerome Powell responded last night in an I will not be intimidated video statement.
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Multiple Republican senators have responded with their own moral and political revulsion.
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Saying not only that they're against what Trump is doing and they're supporting Jerome Powell, but crucially, if this is how Trump is going to use the U.S. Justice Department.
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Then maybe it's the U.S. Justice Department that needs to be investigated by Congress.
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Two Republican senators saying that.
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The Republican chairman of the House Financial Services Committee is condemning this Jeremiah against Jerome Powell as well.
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The rapidly right-wing Wall Street Journal editorial board.
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Is out tonight with an editorial calling this a quote, self-defeating fiasco and a self-defeating scheme that should result in the quote, firing of those responsible.
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Before they can be the cause of quote, any more embarrassment.
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And, you know, economically.
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Maybe you voted for the Republican because you thought, oh, Republicans good with money.
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Trump has brought job growth in this country down to a 16-year low.
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Trump has dragged factory activity and manufacturing levels back to the Stone Age.
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At the micro level of individual American families finances, Trump's policies.
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Not random external factors, but Trump's specific and deliberate policies.
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Have created deliberate man-made financial harm.
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On health insurance costs.
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Which he apparently accidentally exploded.
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On electricity costs, which he apparently accidentally exploded.
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And now for millions of Americans, he's going to be garnishing their wages for their student loans too.
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Again, none of these are externalities.
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None of these are economic factors that are imposing on his presidency.
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These are all policies that Trump chose to choose.
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All of which are deliberately hurting American families economically.
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While he has broken the job market.
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And absolutely failed in any rational attempt to tackle inflation.
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And now he's threatening to jail the Fed chief.
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Which should devalue the dollar.
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And inch us that much closer to needing a wheelbarrow full of bills to buy a loaf of bread.
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Who's on his side at this point?
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Who's he winning over?
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They said it couldn't be done, but Congress is waking up.
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Yes, this Congress.
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And I can hear you scoffing at me through the television.
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I can.
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Look up what I said about the science funding.
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I know you don't believe me, just look it up.
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The Congress in its way is waking up.
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The courts are waking up.
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The people are absolutely fully awake.
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We are getting there, you guys.
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We are not even a year into this mess yet.
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And already it is all systems go.
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Stay with us tonight. We got a lot to get to.
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All right.
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This involves both a scoop and something to watch out for tomorrow.
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Back in September, the White House put pressure on Trump's hand-picked U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia.
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That he had to bring charges against former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Tish James.
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Um, Trump's U.S. attorney in Virginia quit in response to that pressure.
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So Trump replaced him with Lindsey Halligan, a White House aide who had never before prosecuted a case.
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She actually did manage to bring charges against Comey and Tish James for a hot minute before a federal judge dismissed the charges.
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Finding among other things that Lindsey Halligan had been illegally appointed to that job.
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That she was not, in fact, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia.
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Um, the Justice Department is appealing that, but but apparently the administration has nevertheless been trying to resurrect the case against James Comey anyway.
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And now they have failed at it again.
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Today MSNBC's Carol Lennig and Ken Delanian were first to report that uh Trump Trump's Justice Department.
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Has fired now the the second in command under Lindsey Halligan at that U.S. attorney's office because he also declined to pursue the Comey case.
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And this is maybe not the best time for Lindsey Halligan.
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To be without a second in command in that office because get this.
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In a totally different case.
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A different federal judge has ordered that Lindsey Halligan has until tomorrow to explain to the court.
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Why she is still going around calling herself the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia.
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When legally and plainly, she is no such thing.
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The judge has ordered that quote, Miss Halligan shall further explain why her identification does not constitute a false or misleading statement.
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The judge says that could quote, constitute misconduct and be grounds for discipline.
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Again, she has to explain why she's still calling herself a U.S. attorney.
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That response from Lindsey Halligan is due tomorrow.
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Watch this space.

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