**"Це чистий психологічний тиск на Київ" - БЕЗСМЕРТНИЙ про дизельну угоду Трампа і Путіна — Transcript & Summary | SozAI**
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Roman Bezsmertnyi analyzes Trump's diesel deal with Putin as psychological pressure on Kyiv, highlighting its market impact and geopolitical implications.

## Key Takeaways

- The diesel deal is primarily a psychological and political maneuver, not an economic game-changer.
- Russia cannot realistically fulfill the diesel supply volumes announced due to production constraints.
- Market impact from the announcement was minimal and short-lived.
- The deal may be a tactic by Trump to avoid mandatory sanctions enforcement.
- Misinformation and confusion surround the diplomatic talks linked to the deal.

## What the video covers

- Roman Bezsmertnyi discusses the diesel fuel supply agreement announced by Trump and Putin, emphasizing it as psychological pressure rather than a significant market move.
- The volumes of diesel Russia plans to supply to the U.S. are negligible compared to American consumption and exports, making the deal largely symbolic.
- Market reactions to the announcement were minimal, with only slight drops in oil and diesel prices.
- Russia’s capacity to produce and export diesel is limited due to damage to refineries from Ukrainian attacks and ongoing import reliance.
- The deal is viewed as a political and informational tool, not a substantive economic agreement.
- There is confusion and misinformation about the locations and significance of talks between Ukrainian and American delegations.
- Trump’s move may be aimed at circumventing legal sanctions requirements under U.S. law, particularly the Lindsey Graham law.
- The deal and related statements are seen as part of a broader shadow business involving smuggling and unofficial channels.
- U.S. political figures express differing views on the war and diplomatic solutions, reflecting internal political struggles.
- Bezsmertnyi warns of the dangerous combination of Trump and Putin’s actions, likening it to two plagues collaborating.

## Chapters

1. 00:00 Introduction and Overview of Diesel Deal
2. 01:55 Market Impact and Volume Analysis
3. 04:07 International Media and Expert Opinions
4. 06:05 Legal and Political Implications for Trump
5. 08:01 Contrasting Political Statements and Motivations
6. 09:35 Summary and Broader Geopolitical Context
7. 11:13 Closing Remarks and Warnings

Answers

## Questions about this video

What is Roman Bezsmertnyi's view on the diesel supply deal between Trump and Putin?

Bezsmertnyi sees the deal as a tool of psychological pressure with negligible real impact on diesel markets or geopolitical realities.

Why does Bezsmertnyi believe the diesel volumes announced are insignificant?

Because the volumes are tiny compared to U.S. diesel consumption and exports, and Russia’s production capacity is limited due to refinery damage.

How does the diesel deal relate to U.S. sanctions law?

The deal may be a tactic by Trump to avoid enforcing mandatory sanctions under the Lindsey Graham law, which requires action against Russia.

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00:01

Speaker A

Joining us is Ukrainian politician and diplomat Roman Bezsmertnyi. Mr. Roman, greetings. Good day, Mr. Oleksandr.

00:10

Speaker A

Thank you very much for joining us, and naturally, I’d like to discuss some very sensitive and painful topics. On October 9, U.S. President Donald Trump announced that he had held a conversation with Russian dictator Putin, with whom he agreed on the

00:27

Speaker A

supply of diesel fuel from Russia to the U.S. and world markets. According to him, Russia will immediately supply over 300,000 tons of diesel to the American and global markets, another 500,000 tons during November, and an additional million tons immediately

00:43

Speaker A

after that. How do you evaluate such a move? What was this? Will it lower prices? What is Donald Trump’s goal?

00:52

Speaker A

Well, I can say unequivocally that this is a tool of psychological pressure, because the numbers being cited will have absolutely no impact on the situation. I will explain why. Pay attention here to, perhaps, the slip of the tongue regarding the American

01:10

Speaker A

market. The fact is that America exports 62 million tons of diesel, that is 62–64. Uh, this is per year. It is clear that America’s needs for imports, especially low-quality Russian diesel—well, what are we even talking about? Therefore, America consumes

01:42

Speaker A

300,000 in half a day. The daily consumption of diesel in the United States is 540,000–560,000 thousands, and here it is 300,000 for a month.

01:55

Speaker A

Well, we understand that these are ridiculous figures. And the fact that this is a tool of psychological pressure is evidenced by the consequences in the markets. Let’s say, by 1% the price of Texas oil fell on the exchange by 1%, but this drop,

02:14

Speaker A

pardon me, is minimal. And diesel futures, if they were concluded around 5.5 dollars a gallon, now they have slid to 5.50, 5.60. And in some, let's say, there are 4, even 4.67, 4.80.

02:37

Speaker A

There. But these things are also very short-lived, because these volumes—until the consciousness processes all of this, works it through, and it becomes clear that this is just a tool of psychological pressure and nothing more. That is, first of all. Secondly,

02:55

Speaker A

experts state quite clearly that in the current situation, despite the fact that Minister Novak announced they are lifting restrictions on export volumes, that they are lifting the export ban entirely, Russia is not capable of producing such volumes of diesel, even

03:13

Speaker A

those Donald Trump is talking about, after the very high-quality bombings of key refineries by Ukrainian unmanned systems forces. And how much time will Russia need if they stop?

03:30

Speaker A

Understandably, the bombing. If they don’t stop, then there is no point in even talking about it, because as we can see, Russia itself was importing, and, say, for July-August the total volume of imports reached 370,000. Well, you see, this is only, uh, South

03:51

Speaker A

Korea exporting 176,000 to Russia over July and August. Now add India and China to that. Well, it was coming out to over 300, more than 300,000 in imports per month, and here they are going to export. So, well, this is

04:07

Speaker A

already being written about widely. I looked at the New York Times this morning, Telegram, then I looked at, uh, the French Le Figaro. Even the Polish Gazeta Wyborcza is writing about it.

04:24

Speaker A

Not to mention Bloomberg, that is, serious economists and serious publications, they have already noted that there is a certain game going on here, which suggests that this is purely a tool of psychological pressure. And to strengthen this tool of

04:39

Speaker A

psychological pressure, talks in Miami, Florida, between the Ukrainian and American delegations were invented. And the average person, they don't understand where Miami is and where Washington is. And so they just lumped it all together and made a mess of it.

04:58

Speaker A

And they are already writing about the Ukrainian delegation’s talks in Washington. Well, one must understand that the talks in Florida in the south, there on the Caribbean coast, and the events in Washington with Trump and his conversation with Putin... are

05:13

Speaker A

absolutely two different planets. That is why they cannot be combined. Well, as far as I understand now, the Ukrainian delegation has left, and the Europeans have left, and the NATO representatives, and the European Union representatives have left Miami. They

05:30

Speaker A

have flown out, so there will be no second day. And this means that the situation, obviously, if it is a coordinated decision by the Europeans, NATO, NATO representatives, and Ukraine, well, you can just wash down all these pronouncements by Donald Trump

05:49

Speaker A

with a drink and simply forget about them. Because it means that this is just a tool for Trump to avoid implementing the Lindsey Graham law, because on the 18th, well, Article 102 and Article 103 of the law require

06:05

Speaker A

action from Trump. And there is an imperative norm there. It is not palliative, that he can or maybe he won't. It is an imperative, he must do it. It even lists the organizations and state structures against which he must

06:17

Speaker A

impose sanctions regarding Russia. So in this regard, it is obvious that what happened is purely informational and psychological in nature and has no relation to the actual course of events that would be relevant. The only thing is, one of the Ukrainian bloggers wrote

06:40

Speaker A

a phrase like this. I really liked it, that everyone understands perfectly well that these numbers mean nothing, but the chatter itself, uh, of this ginger one, no, orange, how is it, uh, orange plague—well, that's about that exhibition, yes, the orange plague with

07:01

Speaker A

the Kremlin plague, it is already dangerous, because the combination of these two plagues is a huge problem for the world. And, well, actually, that sounds very striking. In reality, these were two plagues having a chat, it’s an answer to the fact that two plagues

07:23

Speaker A

agreed to haul 300,000 tons to America, which is what the United States consumes in half a day, half a day.

07:30

Speaker A

There you have it, let's say, and that's how roughly one can call everything that is happening in this regard. Well, again, I recall that this week there was a statement by U.S.

07:44

Speaker A

Secretary of State Marco Rubio that the war cannot be ended through diplomatic means. So what is being said, what does this statement talk about? No, well Rubio, I asked myself the question, how is it that Rubio says this, while at

08:01

Speaker A

the same time Vitkov and this, yes, Ushner are saying something else entirely. I think I know why this is happening.

08:09

Speaker A

Well, on one hand, you see, Mr. Oleksandr, Rubio is surviving, he still needs to find a way to become president. And that is why he is surviving in this situation. Secondly, he says that, well, America, it’s clear that for

08:21

Speaker A

the most part, this government is currently composed of losers. But the fact that there are still people among them with whom one can at least talk about something, he says: "I understand the situation." And these two marauders are simply following the "sic 'em"

08:36

Speaker A

command given by Donald Trump. And those get-togethers in Miami, well, it was clear to me that it was a front. We talked once, and I said it was a front behind which business is simply being conducted between two individuals. Why

08:49

Speaker A

is this business between two individuals and not a resolution of issues? Notice that the license states that the accrual and transaction of funds between official institutions, the Central Bank and so on, are prohibited. It says it will pass

09:03

Speaker A

through other funds. And these will be some shell banks that will be opened, just so it remains uncontrolled. And it’s clear that Venezuelan oil will be hooked into this too. Well, to keep this spinning on a grand scale, well,

09:18

Speaker A

300,000, well, that's too little to... It seems like Trump doesn't need the United States, but rather some, you know, shadow government with smuggling and some questionable business. That is what he would manage.

09:35

Speaker A

My wife told me today, reminded me of that fairy tale about the Golden Antelope. Remember how it would kick these out from under its hoof? And then the situation reached the point where "enough" and they turned into potsherds.

09:48

Speaker A

And so Trump is waiting.

09:55

Speaker A

Because his greed, it’s just stunning , it’s shocking, you understand? A man cannot find 100,000 to cover his son’s wedding. At the same time, he earned 6 billion, more than 6 billion in a year. Well, if one can even call

10:13

Speaker A

it that, generated income himself. Well , these are incomparable things. And it is clear that this says more than enough about the person, about Trump as a human being, and not as a president or politician.

10:24

Speaker A

But what about the Europeans, uh, is there a reaction from officials to this kind of behavior from Trump? Well, let's say, I think they will start talking about it today, because so far there have only been general remarks,

10:39

Speaker A

since they know the details. So, something will be made public soon. I haven't seen anything yet from Ursula von der Leyen or the leadership of the states. Maybe it exists, but what I have seen as of this moment is mainly

10:54

Speaker A

analysts showing that this entire situation is absolutely not worth the attention. Well, it is worth the attention from a conversational point of view, but if you delve into the economy, well, the most dangerous thing here is that two plagues are combining.

11:13

Speaker A

And this is a very unpleasant thing, but it is unpleasant on one hand, while on the other, it will simply bury Trump , and God be with him. Here it is a different matter, a different trouble.

11:23

Speaker A

They will drag the Republican Party down with them. And yet there are a number of people there who are capable of working and who understand the situation. By the way, you touched on an interesting point regarding the Republican Party itself and the

11:39

Speaker A

possible sentiments within it. A bipartisan US Congressional delegation is visiting Ukraine, which includes Republican Senator Roger Wicker, who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, and Republican Senator Kevin Cramer, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Member of the House

12:00

Speaker A

of Representatives from the 33rd Congressional District of Texas, Democrat Marc Veasey, and member of the House of Representatives from the 2nd Congressional District of Texas, Dan Crenshaw. Are there already any preliminary results from this visit?

12:14

Speaker A

And what does it signify that American congressmen decided to come to Ukraine after all?

12:20

Speaker A

Well, all these people are the authors of letters who, just last week, sent letters to Trump with concrete proposals on what specific sanctions should be imposed and how to fulfill Articles 102 and 103. The only one missing from among them is Democrat

12:40

Speaker A

Shaheen, who signed one of such letters to Donald Trump along with Wicker, pointing out: Mr. President, the deadline is approaching. By the way, these letters were addressed to Bessent , the Secretary of the Treasury, and the Secretary of State: that the

12:54

Speaker A

deadline of the 18th is coming, and the requirements of Articles 102 and 103 must be met. And that is why they recommend synchronizing these things with European positions. For example, regarding the issue of sanctions, there are 600 sanctioned tankers in Europe,

13:11

Speaker A

while in the United States there are 216. And they propose that it is necessary to unite and systematize the sanctions policy of Europe and, well, of the entire West. Well, and as for Trump, we see what he is doing. On the

13:25

Speaker A

contrary, he is doing everything to show that Lindsey Graham's law should not be followed. And he does not intend to follow it. Well, what about during this meeting? Well, naturally, congressmen and senators are doing their job, and they will continue to do

13:42

Speaker A

it. And after the third, the impeachment procedure will begin there. I have no doubt about that anymore.

13:49

Speaker A

That it will successfully pass the House of Representatives, I have no doubt about that either. That the Democrats, despite only a part of the Senate being up for re-election, will gain a majority, is also already clear.

14:04

Speaker A

But will it be enough for impeachment? That is the only question now, to remove him by the New Year, because he has already become a total nuisance to us and to the Americans themselves.

14:18

Speaker A

Because these $ 100—he already promised $ 2,000, then five, then said ten, but now they are sending out $ 100 to pensioners' accounts, as he says, to put towards this medical insurance.

14:37

Speaker A

Well, you see, populism, lies, these are certain tools, but I'm just curious how he stays afloat like this. Are they afraid of him or what?

14:52

Speaker A

You see, Mr. Oleksandr, we have mythologized America, and the reason for this is American cinema, the American propaganda machine. I don't call it anything else. Hollywood is a very serious mechanism. And that is why we sometimes have an absolutist view of

15:14

Speaker A

the United States as a state, as a phenomenon, as a society. But those who have spoken with Americans, well, I can tell you, when I showed my driver's license, the plastic card, they were shocked. I still remember when I

15:32

Speaker A

arrived there with a mobile phone and took out the SIM card, because they still have a contract system to this day. Only recently have they introduced these cards. That's why questions like "do you have Coca-Cola?" exist there.

15:46

Speaker A

Well, you see, you need to understand who we are looking at. We look at the so-called celebrities, but for the most part, America is like any other society . It has everything. Well, in reality, God's laws work everywhere; there is

16:01

Speaker A

everything, and everything is needed. And so, in its general mass, America is , let's say, so as not to offend, a uniquely educated state. Very uniquely.

16:16

Speaker A

And if we were to get into the subjects they study, you would be completely shocked by what Americans read and learn. Not a single American knows their own history. Not one, because it is fundamentally not taught in school.

16:31

Speaker A

It’s these so-called social sciences. And this particular page of history regarding the Indians, they generally don't understand, they don't know what it is. I'm not even talking in general, but I sometimes hear that Americans don't even know where Albania is. I

16:49

Speaker A

assure you, more than half don't know where Ukraine is located, or Germany. And so, there is no need to overestimate all these things. Well, one must understand that this is a peculiar society with peculiar approaches and peculiar values. You

17:05

Speaker A

know, it just so happened that the Europeans who arrived there had certain Christian values. Then, gradually, they were driven out of them, and two things remained: the dollar and property.

17:19

Speaker A

Everything else we talk about is foreign to an American. Therefore, one should not be surprised that, er, Trump is stuffing himself with dollars. They will soon be coming out of his ears, but he will keep stuffing himself, because this society is very peculiar.

17:36

Speaker A

I am not judging him; it is their business. I am just stating what I see, what I interact with. I have to. Let's move a little closer to home. Belarus has accused Ukraine of attacking a truck in the Bryansk region and

17:53

Speaker A

threatened retaliatory measures. The Belarusian Foreign Ministry claims that a Ukrainian drone allegedly deliberately attacked a truck with Belarusian license plates in the Bryansk region of the Russian Federation. Because of this, the Charge d'Affaires of Ukraine was summoned to

18:08

Speaker A

the department and handed a note of protest. Kyiv has not yet commented on these statements. This was stated by the spokesperson of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belarus, Ruslan Varankov. How should Ukraine react to this?

18:21

Speaker A

Well, such events happen there about once every two months. Once, a football team was traveling from Minsk to Gelendzhik, a drone flew into it, and the caretaker of that football team died. A woman, a young woman, by the

18:41

Speaker A

way, who was originally from the Ukrainian Donbas. Now, this woman who was in the car has been wounded. I get the impression that that incident was a clear indication that some Russian special services carried out this operation, and then there was a huge

19:00

Speaker A

outcry all over Russia, because they wrote about it more in Russia than in Belarus. I do not rule out the same for this case, because back then I dug deep into the situation, who led the investigation and so on. Right now, I

19:16

Speaker A

only have a surface-level overview of what just happened. Therefore, I do not rule out that this is a repetition of the same special operation, because, well, it is roughly the same region.

19:30

Speaker A

But why, for example, a bus heading to Gelendzhik ended up on some rural road, I still cannot explain. So it is obvious that we are talking about certain steps taken by Russian special services, and the situation with these

19:49

Speaker A

cars, they either do not understand or do not know where they are striking and therefore hit such objects. How should we react? Well, the fact that the Ukrainian side is silent is, in fact, a very eloquent, significant signal. They

20:07

Speaker A

received a note, and from a protocol perspective, one might not respond to it. That will also be a response. It will clearly indicate: "You are fighting against us, so take this back.

20:20

Speaker A

" So such silence is also a response. A dialogue in this regard is also possible. A dialogue is possible, but for now I am not ready to give you a definitive answer, because I perfectly understand that a war is currently

20:34

Speaker A

ongoing. Right. But this dialogue is only possible when, well, let's say, there is an understanding of the situation. The current situation, from my point of view, is like what happened in the spring when a drone hit a bus.

20:50

Speaker A

It is from that same series. It is obvious that the Russian special services are involved here, because the images showed it was a planned operation. Therefore, I do not rule it out, but as I said again, I need to dig

21:05

Speaker A

deeper here to understand, even by indirect signs, what actually happened there. Otherwise, I only know the facts , that this woman was operated on, that her limbs were amputated, and what is being reported. And I don't know anything more. By the way, this

21:21

Speaker A

cooperation between the United States and Belarus, what does it open up and what perspective can it offer?

21:27

Speaker A

In reality, this is not cooperation between the United States and Belarus; it is cooperation between the United States and Russia. Trilateral negotiations are currently underway: Russia, the United States, and Belarus.

21:40

Speaker A

What is it about? Uh, well, Trump really wants to get to Belaruskali, and so, uh, he is currently looking for a way to deliver potash fertilizers to...

21:55

Speaker A

Washington. He reached out to Ukraine, Lithuania, and Latvia. The Estonians, they said "No." The Swedes, the Finns, they were categorically no. All because there are European Union decisions and so on. And that is why Russia was included. What for? Well, obviously it

22:18

Speaker A

will be shipped either through Saint Petersburg, Ust-Luga, or some other route, but it will be at a price that is clearly not cheap. Well, that is their business. But two sides dominate there: Russia and the United States.

22:37

Speaker A

The role of Belarus is reduced only to the fact that it is their potash fertilizer; I don't know in what form they will transport it, whether in bulk or packaged. Well, that depends on their bilateral arrangements. By the

22:52

Speaker A

way, in the situation regarding the current negotiations between Moscow and Washington, there is a Belarusian component present. In what way? In a few days, the Senate will conclude the review of John Cahill, who will assume the status of Trump's envoy for the

23:14

Speaker A

release of political prisoners. Cahill will enter into negotiations not only with Belarus but also with Russia to release Americans currently in Russian prisons by the third, and to begin the release of Russian political prisoners.

23:30

Speaker A

The next stage will follow this. Trump will lift sanctions in exchange for this. Uh-huh.

23:37

Speaker A

And Cahill has already started discussing this. He just let it slip during the Senate committee hearing when his nomination was being reviewed.

23:46

Speaker A

This concept was prepared as early as March of this year. They tested it out on Belarus. There. And now this business will scale up. But the situation will depend less on Cahill and more on the state of affairs at the

24:05

Speaker A

Russian-Ukrainian front. Two alleged Ukrainian military intelligence officers were detained and arrested in Austria. European media are already reporting on this. Besides, by the way, the\*Ukrainska Pravda\*journalist Mykhailo Tkach and cameraman Yaroslav Bondarenko, two more Ukrainians—those alleged military intelligence officers

24:26

Speaker A

—were also detained in Austria on suspicion of espionage. This is reported by the Austrian publication\* Der Standard\*, citing court spokesperson Christina Salzborn. This happened last Monday. What is going on?

24:40

Speaker A

Why do you think the Ukrainian journalists were detained, first of all , and could the cases involving the intelligence officers be part of a specific operation?

24:51

Speaker A

Mr. Oleksandr, let me tell you a bit about the role that a city like Vienna plays in the operations of Ukrainian business and why this is happening.

25:01

Speaker A

Here, one must return to the history of the unity between Ukrainian business and Austrian—or, I would even say, Viennese—business. All firms that exist in Ukraine, joint ventures or even just Ukrainian ones—a significant number of them—have their offices in Vienna. And sitting there is

25:23

Speaker A

some "figurehead" president, in most cases a person of 60-70 years old, necessarily with the rank of count, with the title of count. And for me, the picture is already clear; I have no doubt that Kravchenko had such a shadow

25:44

Speaker A

structure as a businessman, to put it honestly. There are folders with financial statements there, well, in an archaic form, or folders in a computer, well, just to make it look like an office of some firm. In reality, it is

26:01

Speaker A

just a shell. And when, figuratively speaking, a journalist arrives and starts asking about Kravchenko and where he lives, this titled count or countess—there’s a bunch of them— starts bombarding the police. Well, and when a count "Under-Stunder" calls the

26:21

Speaker A

police, they scramble because they think criminals are attacking, they grab these people, start stripping them naked, "spy-spy," and there is actually a lot of noise about a journalist. So, uh, everything revolves around Kravchenko. Is the role of the

26:42

Speaker A

journalists clear? Two other people. Well, it seems to me that we need to understand the situation more deeply here. I can only tell you one thing. If this is intelligence, well, then the intelligence chiefs should be kicked in

26:57

Speaker A

the rear. Because if you give such a task, you need to provide people with cover stories and prepare them properly ; otherwise, they were sent God knows where, with God knows what, and without any cover at all. It is clear that if

27:12

Speaker A

it isn't, and this count has cooked something up, it could also be journalists from some newspaper or some private investigators, who can pass themselves off as anyone, because this is less connected to the activities of Kravchenko and the Ukrainian side than

27:29

Speaker A

it is to this manipulative cover figure . I have known of operations there that are simply fantastic. You could write fiction novels based on these plots about how Ukrainian business uses Vienna. Especially this central pedestrian area. Literally, every other

27:48

Speaker A

apartment is an office. The office of some Ukrainian enterprise that has its own, well, cover there so that, well, it is clear that people arrive there, appear periodically, settle there, and it is all tied into a very, very tight

28:05

Speaker A

knot. Therefore, uh, Itka and Bondarenko ran into such a "count." There. And they ended up getting hit by a train.

28:17

Speaker A

Well, let's hope that, say, the cameraman is released as well. I don't know if they released her. She I think she was released at four in the morning. Uh-huh. Well, nevertheless, you see, the situation is like this.

28:30

Speaker A

Thank you, Mr. Roman, for today. Thank you for joining us. Have a great day. All the best, take care.

28:38

Speaker A

Roman Bezsmertnyi, a Ukrainian politician and diplomat, was with us on the line.

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