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Premier League opening weekend review: Hull shocks Man Utd, Spurs lose, Liverpool & City escape, Arsenal win. Expert analysis and podcast schedule update.

## Key Takeaways

- The Premier League's opening weekend was full of unexpected results and shocks.
- Promoted teams performed well, with Hull City notably defeating a top club.
- Manchester United and Tottenham had disappointing starts to their campaigns.
- Arsenal showed strong potential as title contenders with a solid opening win.
- The podcast offers comprehensive Premier League coverage with multiple weekly episodes.

## What the video covers

- Hull City secured a surprising 2-0 victory over Manchester United, dubbed the 'Patty McNair derby'.
- Tottenham suffered a heavy 3-0 defeat to Brentford, marking a humbling start for their new season.
- Newcastle drew with Liverpool in a match featuring coaching debuts for Matias Yisler and Andoni Uriola.
- Manchester City narrowly avoided defeat against Bournemouth, showcasing resilience under pressure.
- Arsenal opened their campaign with a win over Coventry City, highlighted by Kristoff Solis and Arteta's tactical plan.
- Discussion on the Premier League podcast schedule: live shows on Sundays, podcasts on Tuesdays and Thursdays, plus audio-only analysis on Saturdays.
- The hosts engaged in light-hearted banter and a water drinking game related to mentions of defensive rest.
- The episode included a Rondo segment with expert guest Tom Harris.
- The podcast also touched on historical and cultural references, such as the absence of tigers in the Bible and old animal paintings.
- Upcoming episodes will cover Brighton vs Aston Villa and Chelsea vs Fulham matches.

## Chapters

1. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
2. 03:11 Podcast Banter and Water Drinking Game
3. 07:18 Discussion on Old Animal Paintings and Bible References
4. 11:18 Premier League Weekend Overview Begins
5. 18:38 Hull City vs Manchester United Analysis
6. 34:32 Tottenham vs Brentford and Tactical Insights
7. 46:32 Newcastle vs Liverpool and Coaching Debuts
8. 52:48 Manchester City vs Bournemouth and Arsenal's Win
9. 74:12 Podcast Schedule and Upcoming Episodes

Answers

## Questions about this video

What were the major Premier League results discussed in the video?

The video covered Hull City's 2-0 win over Manchester United, Tottenham's 3-0 loss to Brentford, Newcastle's draw with Liverpool, Manchester City's narrow escape against Bournemouth, and Arsenal's opening day victory over Coventry City.

Who were the guests featured on this Tifo Football podcast episode?

The episode featured renowned author John McKenzie and expert guest Tom Harris, alongside the regular hosts Joe Divine, Tom Harris, Kai Kak, and Steve Hanky.

What is the podcast's release schedule mentioned in the video?

The podcast releases a live show on Sundays after the 4:30 p.m. UK game, a podcast episode on Tuesday mornings, a Thursday evening show focusing on European or midweek football or deep dives, and an audio-only analysis episode on Saturdays.

## Full Transcript — Download SRT & Markdown

00:03

Speaker A

Hello and welcome to the TFO football podcast. I'm Joe Divine, and today I'm delighted to be joined by renowned author John McKenzie.

00:14

Speaker A

Hello. All right. How's it going? Yeah, I'm now an author now that my book's out.

00:18

Speaker A

Have you sold all your books out yet? I think so. Yeah, gone. Oh, they're all gone.

00:22

Speaker A

Yeah, they're all done. So, no need to promote them anymore. Yeah. Someone told me that a book was already available on resale on Amazon.

00:31

Speaker A

It only sold, only went on sale like a few days ago. Tom Harris is here as well.

00:36

Speaker A

You're right. All right. Voice then croak there. Yeah. You had a fun show, didn't you? I had a great show.

00:42

Speaker A

Yeah. What I meant by that was I thought you were good on today's show.

00:46

Speaker A

Okay. I had fun as well. I didn't mean to determine what your experience of the show was, but you had a fun show, didn't you?

00:52

Speaker A

Lovely time. Apart from that voice break just then. Yeah. Apart from that, also we've got Ka Kak here.

00:57

Speaker A

Hey. All right, buddy. How's it going? Um, I'm okay. I feel like we played a drinking game in the show, and it's taking its toll. All the hydration.

01:06

Speaker A

Well, yeah. I'm like, as much as I'm enjoying this, making Steve's life difficult by logging out the show, I am sailing close to the wind right now.

01:12

Speaker A

Fire needs the toilet is what he's saying. Now, just to be clear for everyone at home, we drank only water.

01:17

Speaker A

Okay, we drank only water, and we did it in the second half of the show anytime that John and then anyone else mentioned rest defense, which is why Ka needs the toilet so desperately.

01:26

Speaker A

Jesus. There we go. Okay. Plus Steve Hanky's here. Calime. Oh, your voice had a little break as well.

01:33

Speaker A

Yeah, there you go. Must be something to do with speaking Greek. Uh, why am I speaking Greek?

01:41

Speaker A

Anyway, what do we talk about on today's show? Well, we start looking at an incredible opening Premier League weekend with Hull City's fantastic and funny 2-nil victory over Manchester United. Are there any Tigers in the Bible? We discussed this in the Tif theology podcast. We move on to a humbling start for the heavily funded Roberto Derby Revolution at Tottenham.

01:57

Speaker A

They lost 3-0 to Brentford, of course. Do you have a diary? We discover who on the podcast notes down their daily thoughts and what is in pickle. We ask that question.

02:04

Speaker A

How are those two things linked? Were they? I don't know. I think you use that as a really loose segue.

02:15

Speaker A

It was a loose segue between the pickle bit and the diaries bit. You're right.

02:20

Speaker A

We also play a Rondo. That was a very exciting Rondo. We've had an expert here for today's Rondo. I'll give you three guesses as to who it was. And yes, you were correct. It was Tom Harris. Now, after the Rondo, we head to Tinesside

02:23

Speaker A

where there were two coaching debuts as Matias Yisler and Andoni Uriola oversaw Newcastle's draw with Liverpool. Uh, Manchester City nearly fell at the first hurdle also, didn't they? But managed to turn it around against Marco Rose's Bournemouth. We talk about that near the

02:36

Speaker A

end of the show. And then we end with the champions, right, Steve? Arsenal and their opening day victory over Coventry City, which was all thanks to Kristoff Solis and Arteta's wet brain master plan. We all knew all along that Solis

02:50

Speaker A

was the one. How about that? Uh, anyway, that was the whole show, I think. Did I miss anything, Steve?

03:06

Speaker A

No. No. Well, I'd like to say that we're back to our full schedule from this week. So, now don't worry, Kai. Soon you'll get to go to the toilet. Just imagine a waterfall or something.

03:11

Speaker A

He's holding on to the desk like holding on to you. See his leg going underneath the table as well.

03:22

Speaker A

It's about the sea. Anyway, not to worry. Uh, we're back to our full schedule from this week, Kai, aren't we? On Thursday.

03:27

Speaker A

Remind me of what our full schedule is. Well, our schedule, John, is as follows. We release podcasts usually on a Tuesday morning.

03:34

Speaker A

Uh, now, that's the second of the week because the first of the— There he goes.

03:42

Speaker A

Kai is running out of the room. The first of the week, we do a live show on a Sunday. Now boys, you do have to close the doors to the studio. There it is. Now we do a live show on Sundays,

03:46

Speaker A

John. You know that because you're part— I'll just start that bit again because all the doors were closing. Okay, we've lost one of the pictures in Bergkamp.

03:57

Speaker A

You can see in the background of Kai's shot here for the people watching the video that he was so urgently trying to escape the room that he's smashed into the back wall. He's upset the picture of Henry and Bergkamp

04:04

Speaker A

there. What was I saying? Oh yes, I was saying the full schedule of our show. We do a live show on Sundays, usually after the 4:30 p.m. game UK time. So yeah, around 6:30, something like that. We'll be doing that this week

04:16

Speaker A

after I think it's Manchester United's switch on Sunday. You'll be there for that one, John, as will Kai. We have a podcast that releases on a Tuesday morning to capture all of the other stuff that happens at the Premier League

04:27

Speaker A

weekend. Then there's a show on a Thursday PM which is usually either about the European football that happened, the midweek football, we catch up on the Monday night Premier League, or we talk about some deeper dive topics. And on

04:39

Speaker A

Saturday, of course, there's a ring for analysis audio-only episode. They're already back. We've published two of those so far. I should say one of them is a little introduction to John's book. So if you're interested in John's

04:50

Speaker A

book and you haven't bought it yet, give that episode a listen. You won't find it on YouTube. It's only on the RSS feed, wherever you find your audio podcasts, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, that sort of thing. Uh, and that's the full schedule. So, I hope you can join us for as many of those episodes as possible. And, uh, I hope you enjoy today's episode, which will begin now.

05:02

Speaker A

Was it one of the greatest and weirdest opening weekends of the Premier League ever? Well, right, Steve, it was chock-full of shocks and upsets. Here's what happened. We had wins for two of the three promoted sides. Losses for Man

05:13

Speaker A

United and Spurs. They were pretty funny. Uh, narrow escapes for Liverpool and Manchester City from potentially troubling defeats. Also hugely entertaining game between Brighton and Aston Villa that we'll talk about more on Thursday's podcast this week for any

05:28

Speaker A

Brighton and Aston Villa fans, along with Chelsea's game against Fulham which is happening tonight as I speak. So where else to begin though other than with Hull City 2 Manchester United nil. Now, the Patty McNair derby as it's otherwise known.

05:47

Speaker A

Tom Huddleston derby as well. The Tom Huddleston derby. Any other takers for Paul McShane?

06:00

Speaker A

The Paul McShane derby. Harry Maguire. Harry Maguire. Harry, who's actually playing in the game. Yeah. Any others?

06:16

Speaker A

No. No. The devils and tigers. Have devils and tigers ever fought each other in any kind of fictional landscape of, uh, can't think of any. Are there any tigers in the Bible?

06:20

Speaker A

Cross mythos, don't they? Good question. Are there tigers in the Bible? John, I feel like you would know that as our resident theologian.

06:27

Speaker A

Uh, do you know what? I don't know if there are. Oh, I mean the Bible was written in the ancient Near East where I guess there weren't many tigers. Are there any tigers in the Bible? No. Tigers are

06:39

Speaker A

absent from the Bible. It reminds me of that story of the pope who wanted a picture of a rhino. So, someone just drew one for him, having never seen a rhino, and it doesn't look much like a rhino.

06:44

Speaker A

Yeah. Old paintings of animals. I can't remember. I remember watching a documentary about this and learning about the specific name of the terminology, but before painters learned to do a specific thing with shaping, all paintings of dogs look insane. I don't

06:55

Speaker A

know if you see paintings of dogs from like before 1600, you just think, what were they looking at? Like how did they not know how to— exactly the same as their version of lions?

07:04

Speaker A

I think that was perspective and that was one of the things tha—

07:18

Speaker A

know if you see if you see paintings of dogs from like before 1600, you just think what were they looking at? Like how did they not know how to exactly the same as their version of lions?

07:28

Speaker A

I think that was perspective and that was one of the things that came during the Renaissance, right? Perspective came during the so far away they couldn't see them very well.

07:35

Speaker A

That's it. You know, I've always said they had no perspective during the dark ages.

07:39

Speaker A

Oh, we don't say dark age anymore. That's that's bad. You don't say dark ages because of woke.

07:44

Speaker A

Has woke got rid of the dark evolving historioggraphy? I can't believe woke has got rid of the dark ages. No one told me. What do we call it? The Middle Ages.

07:53

Speaker A

No, you just sort of talk about the sort of period post the Western Roman Empire.

07:56

Speaker A

You just do a bit more detail. Doesn't quite roll off the tongue in the same way, does it?

08:00

Speaker A

There was still stuff. Just less of a written record. Woke got rid of the Dark Ages, guys. What a surprise. Anyway, um cut that extra laugh there.

08:12

Speaker A

Um Oh, well, there we go. Anyway, that was that's the Patty McNair derby. Uh Manchester United, of course, struggled to create chances against a team that conceded 61 goals in the Championship last season. That's pretty funny in and

08:26

Speaker A

of itself. Hull earned a 2-nil lead through two set pieces, leaving us all questioning three things. A a Man United worse than we thought. B a Hull better than we thought. And C, were there any trains back to Manchester that weren't

08:41

Speaker A

cancelled? I don't know. You may not have seen that bit you didn't watch. One of the largest cheers of the day was the stadium announcer in Hull, who incidentally is the loudest person I've ever heard. I mean, they've got that

08:51

Speaker A

turned up to 11. Uh he he said midway through the second half when Man United were already 2-0 down. He he sort of said with a degree of glee that two of the trains to Manchester, back to Manchester from Hull had been cancelled

09:04

Speaker A

and the whole the whole stadium erupted and cheers. Anyway, I felt very sorry for them. Um, but I didn't feel sorry for Hull because uh they were they were I thought they were very good on on the day, John. They came with a targeted

09:18

Speaker A

game plan, didn't they? And it worked to a tea. Yeah. I think I think it's important for us to give flowers to Sergey Yakiraovic, the whole manager and his coaching staff because I think they came along um with

09:30

Speaker A

ideas. And yeah, maybe the big picture question that I had at the end of watching this game was, is this going to be an issue for Manchester United? Um we we talked a lot at the end of last

09:40

Speaker A

season about um the way that Carrick wanted to generate chances. Um we talked a lot about how they uh look to be um quite central and create these um central progression moments but also if teams overload in the middle then they

09:55

Speaker A

they they sort of then try and exploit in the wide areas. And I thought Hull came with some pretty good ideas out of possession to stop those things from happening. Um so so they played a back five which means that you do have extra

10:05

Speaker A

coverage in the wide area so you're not going to get caught out if that if that happens but they also played with with this with this block of four in midfield who were very good I thought at making

10:15

Speaker A

sure the passes through the middle weren't going through and they weren't passive as well. So what we actually saw quite a lot was the outside players in that four stepping out quite aggressively onto Manchester United's back line when they were possessing the

10:26

Speaker A

ball and trying to find those routes through. when they did that again because you have a back five it gives you a bit of flexibility with what you can do without collapsing your back your backline structure completely. So we saw

10:36

Speaker A

the outside center backs being aggressive and covering the space that was opened out by one of those players further up the field stepping forward as well. So just a bit a bit of everything like thinking about how are Manchester

10:46

Speaker A

United going to try and generate uh in possession upside. What can we do to to make it harder for them to do that? Uh and then obviously set pieces allowed them to to to to get the goals. And one

10:57

Speaker A

other thing I I think maybe worth noticing is it was pretty clear to me as well that Hull were targeting the space be behind Patrick Dorgu when Manchester United were pressing in their in their 424 shape. you know, it's

11:08

Speaker A

a sort of 442 where where the wingers can can often go quite aggressive and high. Uh they were overloading on that side and then they always had that escape and they they would either try and play over dog's head into the

11:18

Speaker A

fullback, but they also had, you know, M Bernie dropping in in the wide area, overloading there, so they could just play into the channel and they were finding routes through through there as well. So, nothing nothing completely groundbreaking, but just lots of little

11:30

Speaker A

ideas where it's like we've thought about the way that Manchester United set up last season. here's ways that we think will make it harder for them to deal with with with that. Um and yeah, I guess for me the question is what kind

11:41

Speaker A

of solutions now is is Carrot going to find because you the Premier League is just so unforgiving when it comes to um tactical approaches because you get six months grace and then everyone knows how you play. Their analysts will have spent

11:54

Speaker A

all summer looking at the way that Manchester United played to prepare for this game and they and they found these little solutions and it just sort of put the game more into Hull's favor. So yeah, that that's the big question I guess I have

12:05

Speaker A

with Manchester United going forward. That will be the interesting thing for United season, won't it Ka? Because uh you know, we've talked a lot previously on the podcast about managers being sort of found out in their second season.

12:17

Speaker A

Carrick had an incredible run in the second half of the Premier League with with Manchester United. But um you know, unlike most of the other big teams that didn't perform that well this weekend, Man United just didn't look like scoring

12:28

Speaker A

once in in the game. They really struggled to create chances, didn't they? Yeah, they have a big problem when they're expected to be protagonists in game. So, this is the most possession they've had in any game since Do you

12:38

Speaker A

want to guess? Anyone want to guess? Oh, yeah. 1934. 2013 since they lost 2-0 to was it 2-1 to Grimby Town in the Caribel Cup?

12:49

Speaker A

That was Amarim. We went quite big with our guesses, John. I think Yeah, they're most in the Premier League games since 2023. So, they've had an issue where they're expected to dominate the ball. Um that's been kind of a thing

12:59

Speaker A

under Carrick for his entire tenure in charge temporarily and now permanently. He's only been in charge for one one year still just to be clear not 10 year.

13:08

Speaker A

I just wanted to be I didn't want anyone to become confused at that point though.

13:11

Speaker A

Thank you. Thank you for correcting the record. Um so Carrick's the good vibes under Michael Carrick were kind of built by uh victories against big teams. So United beat City, they beat Arsenal, they beat Chelsea and they beat Liverpool last

13:24

Speaker A

season. In all those games they had considerably less possession than the opposition. they could kind of hit teams on the counterattack. But that wasn't just the case in games against bigger teams where you'd expect them to get results. So

13:33

Speaker A

there were plenty of games uh Brenford, Bournemouth, Sunderland, Forest, Brighton all had more possession than Man United.

13:40

Speaker A

Ole Gunnar Carrick. Exact. Well, I don't know quite that far if I'd lean that far yet. But you wouldn't port manto two people's names as part of your I would I would generally just not quite with this instance just yet because I

13:53

Speaker A

think um maybe you need to give him a little bit of time to try and find solutions to it. But the games where United had more possession last season generally they'll play against teams who are down to 10

14:02

Speaker A

men. Often when they're expected to control games or dominate games they kind of struggle to create chances. And that's kind of I guess what the whole midfield reinforcement has been about.

14:11

Speaker A

like signings like Carlos Baver have been about helping them out of possession that kind of stuff but Tieleman's Santos is good on the ball Kob Manu is obviously good on the ball as well but they've got those midfield

14:21

Speaker A

refresh that's supposed to be helping them with that and it didn't look on on Saturday at least like the new signings had done too much to change their issues they have which are like I said really long-standing going back to the Eric

14:32

Speaker A

Tenhogen ugly Ralph Ranick days of when they have the ball and they're expected to dominate a game they really struggle whereas in one-off games against bigger teams where they can counterattack can hit teams on the break with the pace of

14:42

Speaker A

Kuna and Burma, Cesco, all those amazing attackers they have. They're great. But when it comes to So the the one that was most comparable to this last season I could think of was West Ham where they drew one all and that was only a late

14:53

Speaker A

Cesco goal. That's the kind of most comparable fixture I could think of in my head where a team just sat back and tried to defend a lead. United do have problems against those kind of teams and because they're better now than they

15:04

Speaker A

have been in recent seasons, they're going to face a lot more of those kind of teams this season. So that is an issue that Carrick's going to have to solve. an interesting transitional issue, you know.

15:12

Speaker A

Yeah. Can I jump in here? I would listen to Jamie Carrier's interview with Andon Area on Sky this weekend. It's a really good interview. Well worth checking out.

15:20

Speaker A

But just a one one sort of throwaway line that I put in there where he was talking about when you move from one team to another and you try and implement a new play style, he saying every squad has a tempo that they're

15:32

Speaker A

just naturally going to play at. Obviously, the players are going to play in a in a certain way. It's it's very easy to think of play styles as sort of over the top things which you just sort of separate away from the players,

15:43

Speaker A

right? But his point was players are are going to play at their natural tempo and it's important not to move them too far away from that natural tempo. And I think that's a really nice way of explaining what the issues with

15:54

Speaker A

Manchester United have been over the last, you know, five, six, seven seasons has been that they've they've consistently played in a in a very specific tempo and then when they're required to play in these other games where they they don't have the the tempo

16:06

Speaker A

players. Yeah. Um it it becomes a lot harder for them as well. So you're making me think of JJ cuz JJ always says that if he tries to slow down what he's what he's thinking, he can't think anymore. He can only think

16:19

Speaker A

100 miles an hour and that's why he speaks 100 miles an hour. But if he slows down, like if he's required to play patient buildup play, all of a sudden he can't play football anymore.

16:27

Speaker A

Do you know what I mean? But it's a it's a really kind of I don't know. I don't know how you I suppose maybe that's what they've tried to do, right? Bringing in these technical players like Yuri Tielemans and and

16:36

Speaker A

Andre Santos. But a lot of the conversation has been about technical security, which I think is fair. But those players again, their instincts on the ball is to play direct passes, right? To play penetrating balls through the lines. Bruno Fernandez is the same.

16:48

Speaker A

We've talked about him at length across many seasons here as well. And I suppose that's that's the the the for me the most interesting concept is like how do you change the mood of a team? Um in in

17:00

Speaker A

in that sense it's true cuz I think the best chance that they created which they didn't even result in a shot was in the first half.

17:07

Speaker A

Um I thought we saw glimpses of what we might see throughout the rest of the season. Yuri Tielemans was a little deeper. Man United, I don't know whether they'd done it intentionally or not, but they'd created somewhat of an artificial

17:16

Speaker A

transition where Hull were a bit in in a mid block, but they were deciding to press high and Yuri Tielemans chips the ball over to Bruno Fernandez who just beats the offside trap. Unfortunately, gets chased down. He's probably not the

17:28

Speaker A

player you want in that scenario, but I did wonder uh you know, is this the kind of football we might see Manchester United try and play more regularly. Will it happen? Will it be different against teams that aren't whole city? Who knows?

17:39

Speaker A

But one more question on United before before we move on. Tom Ka already mentioned Carlos Bleber a player that they're agreeing a deal with Brighton for at the moment. We know what he'll bring to the team out of possession. Is

17:51

Speaker A

Carlos Bourber going to help address these in possession issues at all or is he just we shouldn't be looking to him as a new midfielder. Does it help them break down teams like Hull?

17:58

Speaker A

Um I'm not sure to be honest. He's not the most kind of naturally progressive player. He's not in the mold of Tielemans or or even Andre Santos I'd say. But he does just give you know he's a very strong physical profile. He will

18:10

Speaker A

definitely shore up um the defense. He can come up with moments. He's a very kind of powerful player. I think he scored a really amazing winning goal last season right in right at the last minute kind of edge of the box. He can

18:21

Speaker A

do that kind of thing. But no, he's not someone to rely on in that kind of situation. I don't think I think yeah, we we just have to give flowers to Hull really. I mean, you look at the way they

18:29

Speaker A

compacted the space in between the lines. They just Fernandez could not get on the ball in the time that he wants um to be on it. And you look at the kind of the the back three for Hull as well. I

18:39

Speaker A

think John Eaggan ended up making 17 clearances. So you can see how unbelievable. And and the two the two kind of wide center backs as well, Mendy on his debut, obviously they both scored, but very aggressive and proactive to make sure that even when

18:51

Speaker A

United players did receive a ball between the lines, they were right on top of them.

18:54

Speaker A

They also had to bring off both of their outside center backs in the 64th minute.

18:58

Speaker A

Oh, really? Um and replace them, which I thought was, you know, that's the sort of thing that can definitely destabilize a team in that situation. you still got half an hour to play. So, they did well to weather that storm.

19:09

Speaker A

Ollie Mcernney looked good for the level as well, I thought. I think I think he'll score goals.

19:13

Speaker A

Yeah, there was a period where he sort of turned into almost Messi where he was just like dribbling through about five different players and it looked even better on the replay.

19:21

Speaker A

I feel like with Hull um so a lot of people were predicting them to be even worse than Derby, which is in retrospect probably quite disrespectful, but they're already I think with three points already a quarter more than a

19:30

Speaker A

quarter of the way to beating that tally now. But there are so I have some resis they were probably overly harsh but I don't think they were completely unfair and this game kind of felt like a cup tie in a lot of it and the way they were

19:49

Speaker A

defending I don't know how sustainable that is across the course of a season where you're playing uh week in week out that kind of style.

19:56

Speaker A

It will it will get them points and I don't or indeed scoring from two set pieces.

20:00

Speaker A

Yeah. I I don't think they'll be anywhere near as bad as like a derby for example, but I kind of the bigger test for them is Ipsswitch next week in their in their second game. That will be kind

20:08

Speaker A

of more of an indicator of their chances of staying up I would say than this oneoff result. Yeah, I think it's interesting as well because if you look at Ipsswitch and Coventry, the way they've recruited, I think they have

20:18

Speaker A

identified that they need to be able to survive more to end games in the Premier League and they have bought players, their strikers, their wingers to be able to counterattack, to be able to, you know, Emerson, the new Ipsswitch

20:28

Speaker A

striker, even Coventry's new signing, I think Sheriff, if you look at the data, he's like a kind of power forward archetype where he's going to be running in behind. He's going to be leading counterattacks by himself. I don't think

20:38

Speaker A

Hull have really recruited that way. I think that they're happy to stick with Ollie Mc Bernie because he does what he needs him to do.

20:43

Speaker A

Yeah. Um and you know they are happy to sit a little bit deeper. So it'll be interesting to see how that works as Ka said week in week out.

20:51

Speaker A

I do think this raises kind of an interesting tactical meta question because and this is something that maybe we'll talk about a few times throughout this podcast. It feels to me that this shift towards teams having to play more

21:02

Speaker A

directly means that you it it raises the profile of playing low block and counter football because there's fewer teams now that are bu built to optimize purely breaking down a low block. Uh and as a result, what we've started seeing is,

21:16

Speaker A

you know, it happened quite a bit this weekend, right? Teams who who didn't have to do much other than score goals.

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Speaker A

They were happy to sit in a lower block, absorb pressure, not give away too much, maybe pick up a few set pieces. Leads one with a free kick after generating very little in terms of open play. Um, equally Forest on who were their

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Speaker A

opponents in that game did pretty much the same thing. Um, and I guess as well, I was just I'm just trying to pull off the top of my head, but Everton beat Crystal Palace and again they sort of

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did their thing of, you know, you pick off, you take your chances when they come along. You can make the argument that Newcastle did that against Liverpool to an extent. had really devastating counterattacking moments.

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They did that. Yeah. And I think we I think we will see this throughout the course of the season now is that with that Pep consensus collapsing a bit, there'll be teams who are going to be much braver about just not having the

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ball sitting deeper and and and and you know letting you can make the argument that that Arsenal did this a little bit in the in in the community shield against City. So the 6040 possession in in City's favor, but they didn't they

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weren't able to do anything with it. It was it means that teams can rest a little bit more off the ball. They don't need to have to be intense the whole time. They don't have to be high pressing. Um but also if you have the

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players who can have, you know, who can counter, who can attack directly, it's a a good way of generating chances. Um but also I think what we'll see with with teams like Arsenal, they're not going to be willing to just sit deep and absorb.

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They're going to have ways of jumping out and and picking their moments to press high. Um, but I think teams now have to be able to manage games physically and sitting in a low block for a few minutes is a good way of like

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catching your catching your breath, getting your getting everyone um back ready to go again.

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Well, before before we move on, one more thing to say on Manchester United that a mutual friend of ours in football said this, I think of of Man United fans maybe why they shouldn't worry too much about this opening game. Uh he said if

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they lose they still aren't title challengers which I think most people kind of knew before the season started.

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If they win it's the worst team in the league. So we don't learn anything either way. There you go. Maybe we've learned nothing.

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Speaker A

Who knows? Anyway, right. Um now Steve, it's a little a little early for a break, is it? Should we catch a little should we crack on and do some Brenford and then come back and have a break after?

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What a great idea. What a great idea. Okay, Brenford three nil Tottenham. Well, now Brenford battered Spurs, didn't they? An absolute battering. It could have been more in a right Steve humbling 3-nil defeat on Saturday. Madame Sangare had perhaps the

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best debut of the weekend. There was a very bad debut this weekend as well, but it wasn't that one. Uh and Spurs, who have uh still have major injury issues, fielded a weakened side, including now this was my summary of the game, Ka, a

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young midfielder at right back. Yeah, that was Archie Gray. An old man at left back. That was a little dig. And Andrew Robertson. You still got it, Robbo. uh a striker and a midfielder who have both said that they want to leave at various

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Speaker A

different times. A teenager on the right wing, Mikey Mor, I don't think it was his full debut, but it was not far off.

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And then Matias tail on the left. You know, I'm just going to throw that one in there as a little bit of a dig. Now, anyway, uh not a team starting the game that really felt like it hugely

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reflected uh all of the money that they've spent. Although by the end of the game, they did have many of those players on. Tom, let me start with you.

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Does this game in which Spurs lost badly? And I will remind you we're battered.

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Does this game tell us anything about how we think Roberto Dererby's Spurs project is going to go?

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I mean, a little bit. What do you think it tells us? I think it tells us that they are going to find it more difficult than I think Brighton's deserby found it to play through the press because I think teams

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Speaker A

are pressing better. M I think Brenford were unbelievable in terms of how aggressive they are, but also just the profiles of players in that press, right? They've got three attackers who are really aggressive and powerful. And then the three midfielders

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behind them, just the physicality and athleticism to push up and be brave and win all of their challenges. And then they can even rely on their fullbacks to push up if they need to as well. Lewis Potter and Coyote. It was Yeah. Every

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time Spurs tried to build up, they didn't really have anywhere to go. They ran into issues and they just couldn't get through. So partly on you know that's down to Brenford being very good.

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I do think things will improve for Spurs when they get the right players in when things kind of settle down a little bit.

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Sinia and Marmush we hear are going to come in. Yeah I think particularly in the first half I think Vaneka and Sessi brilliant on the ball really really good at kind of progressing the ball up the pitch stepping it forwards into the channels

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finding those passes. But first of all, I think without Matteos Fernandez in the team, it's harder to find a midfielder.

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Tanali, maybe you can have a Madison or Kulleski in there moving around. Amar Moosh to kind of drop and receive the ball with his back to goal. All of those things I think will help them progress the ball a little bit better than they

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did in the first half. But I don't think this Van Heckeri partnership is massively sustainable just because of how suspect they are without the ball. I think both of them are quite aggressive.

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Speaker A

if they want to jump up and I think Van Hecker in particular he knows that if he wins that first challenge he's got the advantage but when he doesn't win it then he's got space to cover he's not

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got the pace to do it Archie Gray definitely doesn't because he's a makeshift right back I think there are problems there and I think that is when Vanderven does need to come into the team so yeah I I think heavily

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caveed by the fact as we've just said it was a bit of a second string team and I think things will get a little bit better when they have a little bit of rhythm um but there were signs with that

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Speaker A

you know say that they're going to struggle a little bit. I think the second goal actually that they conceded was was an interesting one because they worked the kind of early um phase of the build up quite well. They found a

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Speaker A

pass into Rich Allison, managed to escape the press a little bit and I think when a lot of these teams are pressing them, they're having their wingers are coming inside a little bit and there is space for the fullback to

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to push on a little bit and there is always that pass out to Robertson but Richardson held on to it for a little bit too long, lost the ball and then they got countered. So I think if those

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kind of movements can be practiced a little bit, if players, for example, Marmush might be a little bit better at doing that, then maybe they have a little bit more success. But yeah, it was a pretty damning opening half in

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Speaker A

particular. It reminded me of I think it even was Brighton and Brenford that played Eric Tenhogs Manchester United at the beginning of his tenure. It reminded me of those games. Watching it in the first half, you were just left under no um

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Speaker A

uncertain terms as to how they were. I mean it was it was embarrassingly poor and they did start with Sandroali who's their record signing. Mattez Venz came on in the second half. Ka um how did you feel about the performances

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Speaker A

of their new players? Um well it's interesting cuz um Alias Bert wrote in the Athletic and his piece about it that only four of the 11 arguably once Malmush and Cino come in as expected were the 11 you' expecting

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to start. So it's kind of hard to judge this game. I can't they're still in a serious injury crisis as well.

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Yeah, they have a lot of injuries again. Um it always seems to be the case with Spurs. I think the problem is for for a for a club that seemed to be as almost intrinsically linked with crisis as

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Speaker A

Spurs have been in the past couple of seasons, Roberto Deserby isn't always the best at turning the temperature down on that. And I think that's kind of an interesting question with a lot of the questions about him as a project manager

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and trying to build something which is not something he's necessarily done that much or successfully throughout his career. He had a great season at Bryson and it fell off and Marseilles was quite boom and bust as well and Spurs want to

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build something long-term and sustainable. That's why they've given him a 5-year contract and backed him so heavily. But like in his postmatch press conference, I thought it was interesting for a couple of things. So the first one which I quite liked was the fact he said

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Speaker A

we have one 2006 and one 2007 playing which is uh sort of a quite nice uh lost in translation kind of. What does that mean? Means a player born in 2006 a player 2007. That's a football industry thing to just refer to a player.

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Speaker A

But that's I think that's a foreign linguistic thing cuz in terms my dad will always refer to me as a 97 birth which regardless of what year how old how far into the year we are. So my birthday is July 29th whether we're

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Speaker A

before or after I am in his mind 29 this year. So that's that's an interesting your dad basically thinks of you as if he was a scout. He's just a 97 kid.

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Speaker A

Yeah. Unlucky for Kai. He's on a 2027 contract as well. So his dad won't have to deal with this for much longer.

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Speaker A

Yeah. But I was good luck Mr. Kak. Him using words like suffering and shocking and again this is Bill so many times. Well done boys.

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Speaker A

Yeah. Deservy also using words like suffering and shocking and they could just be quirks of translation but I don't think they helped turn down the temperature. No.

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On what is quite a difficult start to the season for Spurs. And yeah the midfield didn't look like it had much control. They went super direct and quite long to try and beat the Brenford press a lot which I don't think

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necessarily help the situation when you're going long to tell Moore and Richson. Richardson is decent in the air but Tel and Moore are two smaller guys, right? So it's kind of harsh, especially against Brenford who are one of the most

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Speaker A

biggest and physical teams in the league. So I didn't see much I think like Tom was suggesting to suggest that they're going to be this team that can control possession and bait teams with their press like Brighton did under the

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Zerby. There's been a few questions but I don't think it's full crisis as I suggested. No, it's reality check, isn't it? It's the same for Manchester United.

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It was reality check. In fact, you you're reminding me that one of my major thoughts when I was watching that Manchester United whole City game. I was thinking about uh was it Bashiktach that came in with the offer for for Bruno

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Speaker A

Fernandez? Galatasaro was it? He came in with the with the big offer for Bruno Fernandez and then Manchester United re-entered contract talks with him just to make sure that he was happy.

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Speaker A

Whatever. I remember I was just watching that game and sitting there and thinking when they're two-nil down in the second half, they're not creating anything. If I was Bruno Fernandez, I'd just think, "Oh, me. Not again." Like, "Not this

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again." The f like, can you the impact of that on the first game of the season?

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And I'm trying to think who the equivalent Spurs don't have an equivalent of Bruno Fernandez.

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Archie Gray might be thinking about season maybe, but Archie Gray is a young player who I'm sure has got a lot of fight left in him. Bruno Fernandez is coming towards the end of his career.

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Presumably wants like wants wants to chill out a little. I don't know. Maybe not.

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Robertson could be like Christ. what have I done? Anyway, it's very much very much a mixture of what have I done moments and then also reality checks for uh for fans. Um this and this is incidentally I I did not

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Speaker A

expect them to lose in the way that they did. So that's not me saying like, oh, you guys thought you spent all that money you were going to be amazing. I'm sure lots of Spurs fans were very realistic about their chances this

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Speaker A

season, but you know what it's like when you spend loads of money in the transfer window and then you lose your first game. Was it 3-0? Could have been four.

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Yeah. Uh 3-0. One thing uh to add from this game before we move on. I have Eigor Thiago in my fantasy team and he missed a penalty. I will never ever forgive you. That was the There was there was a

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route. There was a route here and I could have had points. Major points. I didn't. I wish I had Madu Sangare. John record signing from Lons uh for I think it was Lons. Was it Lons? Yeah. About4 million pounds.

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Delightful. Oh my god. He was absolutely fabulous, wasn't he? What a debut. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny that you mentioned your fantasy football team because we're doing a draft fantasy together only allowed teams that are outside of the uh big six and Europe.

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It's the bottom half, isn't it? Basically the bottom half. This is what's so frustrating about it is that you know you get lucky and Brenford are like on a route of Tottenham. I'm thinking great I've got two Brenford players here. Eagle Thiago

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Speaker A

is definitely going to score if they're winning 3-0. Misses a penalty and Pinnick didn't even play.

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Speaker A

Yeah. Whereas I had Mammadu Sangari and I also had Michael Kyod who scored. It's just luck.

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So it's all luck. Just 28 points from that which in fantasy draft bottom half let me tell you is is a good score.

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I had Pedro Poro in my team. Well, you only got 28 points overall. No, just from those two players.

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Speaker A

How many What was your gameweek points total? Let's just let's just check. That was right 50ish.

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It won't be done yet, will it? Cuz Don't worry, Steve. You're not in the special league. Let me let me find out what I got.

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Yeah, thanks for the invite, guys. Yeah, I was thinking that too, Steve. I only got 34 points. Two of your players.

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Oh, yeah. Sangari, fantastic player. Um, and do you know what I was so impressed with about Brenford was just their ability to press high and the way that I think, you know, in five years we've gone from teams like Brenford who you would expect

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most of the time to be quite passive even if they were going to press up higher. Yeah, that just watching the game back and you see the center back step because obviously a big thing that the Zerby's game is built around is you

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Speaker A

bait the opponents forward and then you have these escape routes to find your way through the presses and and one of the gamles that they take is oh if you if your front line players abandon the front line and drop deep, it's unlikely

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the opponent's going to follow you all the way in. But this is what happened.

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The center backs were just brave and they stepped all the way up. That means that you're reducing one of their escapes. It becomes much harder. It's why, you know, um, Tottenham ended up having to play quite direct and it's,

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you know, quite worrying. I think if I were a Spurs fan, I'd be worried about how quickly Spurs just started going long in that first half. They started playing long goal kicks. Um, and yeah, there's there's all kinds of questions

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that emerge, but we're talking about Brenford. Um, Ahmed Wall has written a piece on on the site about Brenford's pressing, which is well worth going to have a read of. But yeah, this is the reality now is that teams who you would

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previously have considered just sort of mid-table um sort of fairly passive midblock blocky teams are now going aggressive because they know that the payoff is there for them. The gamble is there.

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Anyone can get it in the Premier League, John. And this was this is the point that we've made about Derby's um approach in the Premier League. We've just put up a video that's gone live now on to um

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exploring some of those ideas about Dererby's approach which have become maybe problematized in the modern game.

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And I did a a video on the Athletic FC talking about this stuff. It's you don't need to bait presses anymore in the Premier League because opponents are going to press you. Tom's already mentioned pressing is much better. these

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teams are able to go collectively jump on and lock on man-to-man around the ball without leaving any gaps and it just makes this this kind of approach so much less likely to happen. So yeah, big questions about whether or not does

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approach or what it's going to look like in the in the modern age. I think there are ways of being able to make it work, but um I certainly think that that they've got a lot of thinking to do

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about it. Would you like some nerdy stats on Sangare just to round off? I would love some. Thank you, Tom. I think when you look at players from a kind of data perspective out of possession, they tend to be either very

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aggressive tacklers or very aggressive kind of interceptors and ball recoverers. So, they're a little bit more kind of passive where they're just sweeping up rather than actually going in for things. Sari is both. There's a metric called true tackles which we kind

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of use as a proxy for kind of how aggressive they are, how much they want to stick their foot in. Saru was right at the top for under 23 midfielders last season. He was also right at the top for

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ball recoveries. So, he does it both. Um, and that is what makes him stand out so much because he's just everywhere all at once.

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He's amazing. He's also worth saying he is he's fantastic on the ball as well and has this ability to sort of wrap passes through the lines uh as well. So, he could be a real game changer for for

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Brenford. Amazing. All right, let's have a quick break and when we come back, we'll play a Rondo.

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Welcome back from that delightful break. Now, it's time for the most serious moment of the week. That's right. It's time for me to read my personal journal.

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No, I'm kidding. It's time. I don't have a Do you guys have a journal?

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Speaker A

No. No. I feel if I say yes, that could end badly for me. Guy has got a journal.

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Speaker A

I write thoughts down and sometimes. Yeah. Arsenal one again today. Dear diary, Joe was mean to me again.

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Speaker A

Writing thoughts on that. You've reminded me one. My wife always laughs at me because she says, "One time we were sort of in bed sort of trying to go to sleep and I was rolling around a little bit and she said, "Are you okay?"

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Speaker A

And I and I said, "What's in pickle?" I don't remember this. I think I was sort of already asleep and I was like in that place halfway between a dream and and the waking state me about pickles and I realized I in Branson in Branson

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Speaker A

pickle most dream isn't it just a world of pickle in Branson pickle. I suddenly realized I've got no clue what's in Branson pickle. No clue. And she said I don't know. And then I went okay.

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Speaker A

What is in pickle? Well I looked it up and it was it's basically just pickled little pickled vegetables. It's vinegar. It's like little pickled carrots and stuff and other things. I mean, put pickles, but there's like a dark sauce in it as well.

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Is that just I think that's the process of pickling that causes that to go in.

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Pickle's kind of a noun that describes a process. So, there's veget there's carrot, sweet, onion, and cauliflower that are pickled.

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Obviously, there's sauce and sweetness. So sugar barley malt vinegar water. Do you think they have Branson's pickle in America?

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Do they know what it is? I wonder if it's on those, you know, the sort of world food stalls that you rose that you see in like Canadian American restaurants.

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To them is what what Vegemite is to us. Yeah. Brown sauce. Anyway, there's also some sulfite ammonia caramel in there. So, caramel.

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Speaker A

Well, it's just coloring. I think caramel doesn't really always mean what you think it is. You know, caramel doesn't always mean what you think it does.

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Caramel mean to you, Ka? What does it mean to me? Dear diary, caramel to me. Anyway, listen. Let's play a rondo now. Very exciting. And we've been working our way through a specific category of rondo and we're going to return to it today. Very

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fruitful, exciting category. Here's how the rondo works. I ask a question that has multiple correct answers. We go around in a circle. We give correct answers. If we give incorrect answers, we are rejected from the rondo. If we

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give answers that have already been given before John McKenzie active listening, we are rejected from the Rondo. The final person standing is named Rondo Del Rey. And today's category is as follows. What I'm looking for simply is teams that are in this

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season's iteration of La Liga. Okay, that's Spain's top team. Spain's top team. Tom's going to win this.

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Speaker A

Why is Tom going to win? Is he in my wheelhouse? Yeah. Is Are you a specialist, Tom?

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All right. Well, let's see. Set myself. I'm going to say yes. Just say you're a specialist.

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I'm a specialist. Oh my god. Oh my god. If he doesn't win, guys. If he doesn't win, it's huge. Okay. In which case, let's start with Ka.

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Real Madrid. Well, Real Madrid are of course in there John. Barcelona. Barcelona are in there. Right. That's the two ones that I know, Tom.

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Atletico Madrid. There you go. Now, see, I like the strat there of getting You've got to go for the bigger teams first.

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Take out what they could say. Good idea, Ka. I'm something of an expert, so I've heard of Sevilla.

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Ah, Sevilla. Yes, they I think they're top of the league right now after one game.

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Valencia. Valencia. Real Bettis. Let me just He He needs to find out whether or not that is because they are.

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The thing is Valencia before. It's not that. It's just that I haven't got them in alphabetical order. I've got them in league order right now. So I've got to scan the list. Valencia are there.

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Rail Bettis. What do you say? Rail Bettis. All right. Yeah, we can have Rail Betus, can't we?

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Uh Rail Sauciad. Rail Sashi Dad. You can have Doing quite well so far. John Vale.

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Vale are there. Leante. Leante. Of course, they're bottom of the league right now. Um, I never know the correct way to say it because the fans get annoyed if you say it in wrong way.

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Club athletic. Athletic club. Athletic club. Yeah, you can have athletic. Yeah. Kafe. Ketafe. Yeah, you can have ket.

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Speaker A

Rio viao. Rio viao. Yeah. Oh, it's getting a bit difficult, isn't it? What's mine? Uh, would you like a clue?

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Speaker A

Uh, I know what you're going to say. Would you would you like a clue?

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Speaker A

You know what, Joe? I I would love nothing more. Oh, the clue is you know all of these teams. I don't know that I do know all these things.

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You do. If I said them to you, you'd go, "Yeah, I know." Do you want to say them to me?

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Speaker A

No. Um, let's go. Oh, he's taking his time. Four. I don't like how much time you're taking here Ka.

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Speaker A

It's a risk. I'm going to start to count you down from five. All right.

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Speaker A

Four. Three. Two. Say a team. One. Say a team. Go. Oasuna. Yes, you can have Oasuna. Well done.

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Pressure's on, John. Malaga. Malaga. You can have Tom Harris. Seliggo. Seliggo are there. Of course, now there are only five teams remaining. We've done pretty well. Ka has tape been said.

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Speaker A

What do you want to say it? Yeah, it's been said my friend. Ah, Steve, active listening has been terrible.

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Speaker A

Well, two things. Active listening, but also you he didn't actually submit it as a question, but based on your if if I was him, I wouldn't have done it cuz I heard you go, "Oh, no." You got to hold

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Speaker A

your emotional reaction. That was like a Oh, that's such a good suggestion. Well done. You got away with You got away with it with generic enthusiasm.

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Speaker A

Steve's generic enthusiasm. You're out of the game. You're out of the game. John, it's down to you. Can you stop the so-called expert?

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Speaker A

No. We'll try. So, I'm thinking of a few different teams, most of whom I think are relegated.

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Speaker A

Okay. Or maybe don't even exist anymore. I don't know. I'm going to say no. They're definitely not in the league.

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Got another one. Well, it's too late now, Ka. Uh, Jirona got relegated. I'm going to have to start counting you down, John, because it's Kadis got relegated.

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Speaker A

Four, three, two, one. Say a team. I can't even say any team. Say a team. Go quickly. The first thing that comes to your head, say a football team.

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Speaker A

Meritimo of Portugal. Okay, you're out. You're out. Right now, Tom, can you get one more in order to win the game?

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Speaker A

Elchce. Elchce. Okay, so well done. Congrat Firstly, congratulations. You've been named Rondo Del Rey. Secondly.

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Speaker A

Mhm. You said you're an expert. There's four teams remaining. Can you name them all?

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Speaker A

I've got three. Okay. So, Rasing Santandere. That's correct. Of course. Deportivo Alves. Yes. Well done.

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Speaker A

Oh, I've got four. Lacarunia. Uhhuh. And Espanol. Well, there he goes. He got them all.

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The expert named all the teams in the league. Thank you. We couldn't have my lap even if I had listened.

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Speaker A

You never could have won. No, absolutely. Right. Congratulations, Tom. And well played to both of you somewhat.

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Speaker A

I mean less so to you because of active listening. I'll take a win over Ka to be fair.

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Guess the Portuguese team. No, I How is this a name? I'm going to say that Portugal and Spain are the same and that there are no differences cultural nor language between them and that they're identical countries.

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Speaker A

We've all heard of Galissia. That's basically a mixture of the two, isn't it? It's exactly No, exactly. Exactly that.

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Speaker A

Right now, where do we go now? Well, we we we go Let me just get up where we go.

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Speaker A

Oh, yeah. I found where we go, guys. I was worried there for a second. I didn't know where we were going, but now I know where we're going. And it's all the way to the north.

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Speaker A

Where would we have gone if you didn't find out where we were going? Well, who know? I mean, that isn't that the treat that's the true treat of the to football. You never know where you're going, do you? Until you find that

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Speaker A

you're in the northeast with Newcastle two to Liverpool. Well, a 95th minute Dominic Zuslai penalty rescued a point in Andonni Area's first game as Liverpool manager following goals from Anthony Langanger, Cody Hako, and Joe Willick. Newcastle's promising performance was also Matias Ya Matias. I

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have to keep remembering to say Matias when they're German. Matias Matias Yisler's first game in the dugout for the Magpies. Uh, but did we really learn that much about either coach? Well, let's find out. Um it was a very

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Speaker A

interesting game John from a Newcastle perspective. Uh obviously in their midfield, you know, the big story for Newcastle this summer, Bruno Gimaray and Tanali both gone. They started the game with with 20-year-old Lewis Miley who where's number 67 who I thought was

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Speaker A

actually very good in the game and 18year-old Sha Stir. He's Ajax, isn't he? Stir stir. He's a new new player from Ajax. Um, I thought they were they were very good on the day, but but you've kind of mentioned already that

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Speaker A

they did play in a bit of somewhat of a low blocking counter style. Yeah, it was interesting watching again like we've talked already about it being weird watching Man City without Guardiola in the dugout. It's actually kind of weird watching Newcastle without

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Speaker A

Eddie how in the dugout as well because I think we had they they sort of become quite not not predictable but we we knew how his play style sort of we knew how.

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Speaker A

Yeah. And it felt this felt quite different from that. And not just because Matias Yisler was dressed for a cocktail party either. I don't know if you saw his sort of James Bond style. He looked exceptional.

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Speaker A

He also like did this thing when the penalty was given cuz it was like the last thing in the game where he sort of like half took his shirt off and gave it a massive fbomb and I was like, "Yeah,

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Speaker A

go on. Don't hold me back." Yeah. I love that. Um it's good. I I just love when uh when someone can he's obviously not done anything in the UK before, but he's one week in and he's already swearing

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Speaker A

profusely on the sideline in English swear words, which is quite fun. Um yeah, I thought they were they were really smart in their in their transition moments. Um I think they were smart, you know, playing Alanganger on on that side trying to hit the space

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Speaker A

behind Kirz. He's in my fantasy team. Thank you. As as is your whist, I will say at this stage. Yeah.

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Speaker A

All right. So you'll got some points from them. Yeah, we're unfortunately botched all of his chances and got a yellow card. So I don't know, maybe at the end of the game week he'll be rewarded for his man of

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Speaker A

the match contribution. You have to trust the process, I think. Get an assist for the second goal, didn't he?

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Speaker A

He did. Yeah. Yeah. That's some points. Sure. It's some it's some, but it's not as many as 28.

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Speaker A

That's true. Yeah. But yeah, this is a kind of interesting game because you you sort of have to balance off two things, right?

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Speaker A

On the one hand, Liverpool were were obviously at fault for for both of the goals they gave away, but Newcastle did everything correctly in those in those two scenarios. I thought that, you know, the it's there's a reason why Pep

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Speaker A

Guardiola spent most of his career keeping, you know, the opposition as far away from his goal as possible with all of that distance to travel because it's actually quite hard to move the ball with very few players in those

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Speaker A

scenarios. Um, that second goal, the way that Yan Whistler dribbled through four players, it was absolutely outstanding and I thought I think that was a recurring aspect of this game really, the ability of Newcastle players to receive the ball and then just ball

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Speaker A

carry and Liverpool players struggling to actually make make the challenge. And um yeah, some interesting I mean this is maybe a bit of a segue um away from what we're talking about with Newcastle, but I thought it was quite interesting that

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Speaker A

with with with Liverpool under Ireola, what you get is you want to have players with mobility who arrive in these moments to slow opponents down. But often when you arrive in those moments at speed, um you you know that speed can

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Speaker A

be used against you. And actually really good defensive players with mobility are the ones who have the ability to decelerate and then are able to make the the the jewels more successfully if that makes sense. And I felt there was lots

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Speaker A

of examples of Liverpool players arriving with speed into these jewels but not being able to decelerate properly and and therefore Newcastle were able to carry through these pressure moments quite a lot. That that will probably be an ongoing issue for uh

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Speaker A

Liverpool players going forward. But I think really good from from Newcastle to to to just be very efficient I thought with they didn't have they what 40% possession again. So again we're getting again we're in that wheelhouse of teams

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Speaker A

who are willing to just allow the opponent to have the ball absorb the pressure and then make the most of those moments when they attack directly. Now we know that Yelers comes from that red ball background. So the ability to

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Speaker A

attack space directly and and and through the middle in particular is going to be is going to be good there.

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Speaker A

And I thought they were they were really good uh in this game at doing that.

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Speaker A

Well, on that note as well of the the speed that the intensity of Newcastle's attacks under YA, I thought this was interesting. Chris Wolf wrote this in his um his post-match piece. Nick Volultard didn't even come off the bench

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Speaker A

and it's unclear where the German fits into Yela's team and style. Antonola, the Liverpool head coach, described Newcastle as quote, "One of the fastest front lines in the league." Uh this is after the game obviously and it's obvious that Yiseler's vertical football

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Speaker A

requires pace up front. Tom Harris I thought I I quite enjoyed Nick Voltoer at times last season but based on how well Yan Vissa performed yesterday Anthony Langanger as well you can see why it's obvious that those two players

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Speaker A

would have a future in this team based on the fact that we think their transfer business might not be done either. Would you be concerned that Nick Voltermada might not fit in in Matias Yisler's Newcastle potentially? I mean I I must admit I'm

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Speaker A

not as across Yiseler's coaching career as as maybe others are but I didn't even know who he was at there.

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Speaker A

Yeah, I was thinking about Sebast. You're an expert in this, but I think he is a little bit more. I mean, when we had Seb on a couple of weeks ago, he said he's more than just a Red Bull coach. You know, there are like

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Speaker A

elements that he will like to to mix things up. So, I think Voltoard is an interesting I mean, he's a very unique player, isn't he? He's a good player to have around.

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Speaker A

He's great. Uh, and yeah, he's he's very good. So, I think no need to get rid of him specifically when you know they are having such problems in a transfer window and losing all their best players. Keep him around and he might

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Speaker A

come in come in handy. But yeah, definitely the speed. I mean, I was just looking now um data from our good friends Skill Corner. They have a metric called um top three peak velocity.

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Speaker A

Wow. Which basically takes a player's top three speeds across a season average and it's basically a way to say, you know, they are able to reach this speed pretty consistently, but it's also the top speed that they they're able to reach.

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Speaker A

Top 20 in the top five leagues last season of players. Anthony Gordon is in there. Uh Anthony Alanganger is in there and Bazimano Tore is in there who they have just signed from Hoffenheim who has not played yet. I don't think he came on

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Speaker A

in that Liverpool game. So yeah, definitely looks like they're going to double down on that approach. And with Osula as well, he doesn't quite reach the speeds but I mean I think he's one of my favorite players in the Premier

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Speaker A

League cuz he was so exciting chaotic but in a in a in a good way. Um he makes it work. Um he was also limping for about 20 minutes yesterday but but then he came back on in the second half. I thought what what

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Speaker A

was wrong with his foot? What could have possibly happened to that man? Anyway, terrific. Well done for Newcastle.

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Speaker A

Aula is argu interestingly kind of a way that unlocks Fisser a little bit. If you think back to what he was like at Brenford when he played his breast football, him and Burmo, I think both got 20 goals in

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Speaker A

one season together and they kind of they weren't isolated from one another. They were they were working together doing quick counterattacks. Asula and Vissa can probably they have similar profile and skill sets to be able to pull that off. So I think the way that

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Speaker A

Yisler seems to be playing does feel like he can get the best out of Vista in a way we didn't see last year. Partly because of injuries but also partly because sometimes he was a bit isolated up front. Um I don't think this is

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Speaker A

someone who can kind of play a lone n striker. He needs a bit of support with him which when Newcastle counterattack yesterday they did so in numbers and he had players up front with him and he has shown in those kind of situations. I

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Speaker A

know John spoke about decision-m but he has shown in those quick transitions he can be quite effective and make the right decisions.

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Speaker A

I have a sneaky suspicion that if that continues as a front line then we'll see a lot more of the best of I have to say also on that basis I'm quite pleased for Newcastle fans because it's been a rubbish summer for them

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Speaker A

losing you know lots of their favorite players and their best players to have a player that they bought last season who uh you know was in there was an argument for him being the worst transfer of last year on the basis of injuries and

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Speaker A

performances to have him have a game like this in the first it feels like a new signing doesn't it? It's nice.

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Speaker A

Anyway, there we go. Well done. Right on Liverpool though, not a terrific start. Perhaps not unexpected. We spent a lot of time, John, talking about how many games Andoni Areola is allowed to lose or perform poorly in before uh you know,

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Speaker A

we can accept that things take time. Um what do we do we learn anything about Liverpool from from this game beyond what we knew already, which is that he's going to have to learn how to break down low blocks? Yeah, I mean I feel as

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Speaker A

though we did learn something about Ireel as Liverpool from this game that wasn't in the ballpark of narratives that we've had so far. I thought Liverpool were largely fine. It was just they had those two moments where they

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Speaker A

really poorly defended those the transitions and we could break down both goals and talk about the things that went wrong. I' I've done the did you notice video on on this issue. The concept FC that's right. Yeah. The concept of rest

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Speaker A

defense which means you all decided to take a drink at the same time. started talking about settling in settling in for the ride. You're like defense drink just a drinking little hydration break there.

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Speaker A

Yeah. Obviously, I think people who listen to this podcast will know rest defense is essentially like how well are you structured when you have the ball?

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Speaker A

Keep going. How well are you structured when you have the ball to to be able to deal with losing it? Yeah.

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Speaker A

Um and there's there's lots of elements that come into that. So, I think the biggest one that people talk about is is the structure itself. So if you look at the moments when the the breakdown happens when Liverpool lose the ball

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Speaker A

before Newcastle attack um the center backs for example are very deep they don't have great access to the players in the middle in the first one for well in both examples you've got Graven Burch who is nominally the deeper lying of the

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Speaker A

two pivot players yeah carrying the ball forward into into the towards the edge of the box and vacating that space in the middle. Um, and obviously if you do that, then you have to think about the ramifications of if you lose the ball in

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Speaker A

this scenario, how is how are we going to be able to defend that? Where's the rest? Yeah. Where's what are the rest of the people doing? Yeah.

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Speaker A

I've got a little Can I give you a little um I just want to gift you something cuz I know you you often find yourself in your career having to explain what rest offense is. Tom, maybe you'll use this as well. Rest offense.

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Speaker A

Here's I've been thinking about a way of describing it in a sort of nice concise.

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Speaker A

Do you want Do you want to hear it? Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Now, uh, kids, when thinking about rest defense, it's not sleepover, it's leftover.

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Speaker A

Oh, nice. You like it? Yeah, that's good. Try it on yourself. Who am I addressing?

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Speaker A

Well, the camera and start by saying kids. Kids. Yeah. Weird myself. I'm not sure if I like this.

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Speaker A

Yeah. No, keep going. Push through. When it comes to rest defense, we're not worried about sleepover. We're worried about leftover.

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Speaker A

Now, interesting. Interesting that you added extra words in there. I was just improving it.

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Speaker A

No, you were you you made it less concise. I just don't think that you really appreciate how to present things for a video audience.

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Speaker A

You introduced the the concept of worry when you're talking to children, you know. Very strange, isn't it? That that's a bit of a I think that might be a kind of Freudian insight into your psyche there. Always worried about

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Speaker A

something, isn't he? Oh, is the Premier League going to be more chaotic now? I'm worried. Anyway, what were you saying about Liverpool?

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Speaker A

Um Oh, yeah. We're talking about rest defense. Oh, yes, yeah, yeah. not sleep over.

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Speaker A

Yeah. Um but there's lots of different things. So yeah, I I mentioned the the the structure stuff. So there's definitely improvements that can be made there. Um which will I think you know they will be made. Um it does maybe

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Speaker A

raise questions about the usefulness of Graham Burch in this system because I think if he's going to be used as the deepest lying midfielder, but his in possession upside is largely comes through ball carrying then you have this

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Speaker A

scenario where you're regularly going to be opening out that kind of space. Now there's ways you can solve that with structure and struggling.

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Speaker A

Yeah, and you can argue that that was what happened for the second goal because Soai and actually Viet had much better access to um Vissa I think in the in the in in the second goal. In the first one it was just the ball came out

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Speaker A

into the middle and there was just no one there. The center backs were too deep and then the Newcastle players were able to get the um the run on. But there's also decision-m aspects as well.

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Speaker A

So in for the first goal, Grain Burch carries the ball through. He has it's actually quite poorly defended I think from from um Liverpool.

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Speaker A

No, Newcastle. Newcastle. It's actually quite poor. It was it was a 5050 shot. You got the wrong one. Yeah, it was it was fairly poorly defended by Newcastle. So, I mean he takes a really nice touch and gets into that space.

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Speaker A

Which goal are you talking about? The the first Newcastle goal. Oh, because it's rest defense, right?

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Speaker A

So, it's what Liverpool are doing with the ball. Um so, he gets to the edge of the box and there's two he has two Well, he has three options. he has the option to maybe play in sober's eye through in

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Speaker A

and he's probably threw on goal and and you might generate a chance there. Arguably, it's like it's not great for his what the kids call angle bias. Like it's it when he's running in that direction, it's kind of hard for him to

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Speaker A

get his right foot around the ball to play it. Yes. The other thing he could do is just take a shot. Um, and if he does either of those two options, then what you're doing is you're taking the ball out of

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Speaker A

the danger area and, you know, it's either going to go into the goal or out of play probably, which means that you're not going to be uh at risk from from your structural deficiencies. In the end, he plays like a really risky

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Speaker A

pass across the box. Newcastle can just run onto it and then exploit the space.

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Speaker A

Got it. Um, but then there's other decisions as well for the second goal. um in terms of the out of possession stuff where both Suzai and Vietz are right by Vissa when he carries the ball through them and

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Speaker A

you're just thinking at this point I mean I talked before about you expect your your players to be able to def defend those jewels better um the deceleration stuff I was talking about before where someone like will arrive

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Speaker A

very well into those jewels but sometimes when he he overcommits he doesn't decelerate well and then it gives the advantage to the opponent but both of those players have the opportunity to just pull pull him down tactical foul they've conceded a goal

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Speaker A

like this in these conditions already. Just just take the yellow card and and don't worry too much about the the ramifications of that. I I think would be the instructions. But I think it's it what we learned from Liverpool is that

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Speaker A

actually these areas are areas that we weren't talking about with Ireola. We weren't saying, "Oh yeah, Iola's teams are going to have bad rest defense." I don't think you could say maybe they're going to overcommit and and the games

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Speaker A

are going to be transitional and that puts you at risk at these things. But I felt like in terms of the structure, there's nothing about Ireola's game that can't solve those problems whilst without that won't just break his his uh

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Speaker A

system altogether. So there are fixes there that that they will do. And again, I think it comes down to what you were saying before. How much time does he get? Actually, I think if I was a Liverpool fan, I would be quietly

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Speaker A

encouraged, not by the game. I thought the game there was lots of sloppiness in there but you know, it took 10 games for Bournemouth to get to a level where they were able to actually compete. Liverpool are already much more accelerated I

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Speaker A

would say in that in that process. Um and the the good news is I think that it's one of those things where everything aggregates quite quickly. As soon as as soon as everyone starts getting it then um I I think that the

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Speaker A

improvement will happen um quite overnight. Um so it's going to happen overnight. Well, as in now we're leaning back into the more sort of sleep side of rest.

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Speaker A

Yeah. Yeah. But as in the reason why it's difficult is because everyone has to do the right thing, right? So there's so many moving parts. But then when so it looks bad but then overnight it will just be usually it will just be a sort

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Speaker A

of click moment where everyone starts getting it and then and then it just you think I I remember that Bournemouth run where I was just like this is this is just looks irredeemably awful like I can't see this

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Speaker A

turning around and then it just happened very quickly. Don Seni said didn't he in an interview he said it suddenly became natural and embedded I think were the words he used which I think is an important point. It

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Speaker A

does just become second nature. Yeah but it will take time. Yeah. Okay. Well, also I I think of fans boyed by the the improved pre-season connection between Alexander Isac and Florian as well. So may maybe there could be something of

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Speaker A

the sort of second season Yoan Vissus about those two players. Who knows? Well, we'll find out. Now it's time for a quick break, isn't it, Steve? Yes, please.

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Speaker A

Yeah. And when we come back, we will talk about Manchester City Bournemouth and a little bit on Arsenal Coventry.

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Speaker A

And we'll try and make the show as long as possible so that it ruins Steve's day.

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Speaker A

Yes, we're back now. Okay, Manchester City 2 one Bournemouth. Manchester City narrowly avoiding an opening day defeat to Bournemouth with late goals from Mark Gahhee the midfielder. The new the newly branded Mark Gahhee and Ysef Vardial who I can't say is newly branded as a nine

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Speaker A

because he's been playing there the whole time. That's what he call Yosko is he?

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Speaker A

Oh Steve Hanks Steve Hanky. Yep. Is is Oh, do you know why it is? It's because actually what I did when I um edited this slightly last night was I changed Guardial from Guardial because I think Steve does a

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Speaker A

first draft and then he comes and tidies it up a little bit later. Maybe Pep Guardiola.

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Speaker A

You were thinking of Pep Guardiola. His full name is Joseph, isn't it? Yeah. You got a little bit confus.

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Speaker A

Yeah. On on the old Championship Manager games it was yep Guardiola. There's a little insight there into Steve's into Steve's mind. How about that?

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Speaker A

It took him back to a happier place, didn't it? Yeah. the spectre of Guardia. Still, let's backpedal from here now. Uh, for Bournemouth, what looked like a Now, this is written by Steve. Just want to make it absolutely clear. Write Steve.

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Speaker A

For Bournemouth, what looked like a bed of roses turned out to be a bed of thorns as those sweet, sweet cherries were stung in Marco Rosa's first competitive game in charge. There we go.

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Speaker A

Do you wonder about how he the the name Marco Rosa presumably that's just the English word rose presumably at some point he had an English ancestor.

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Speaker A

What is Rose in German? Let's see. Uh it's D Rose. So maybe Yeah. No, no, it's it's D. Rosa. Yeah. So if he was English, he'd just be Marco Rose.

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Speaker A

Exactly. But that's not like an English like migration word. Well, English is a Germanic language, so it's other way around arguably that we got rose from Germans. So here we having having a look at it now. The uh the surname Rose has

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Speaker A

multiple independent origins across Europe, primarily deriving from the flower descriptive nicknames and ancient Germanic personal names. So there we go.

62:40

Speaker A

How about that? Germanic personal in some English and French traditions. It derives from the medieval female personal name Ros or Ros. Uh this originates from the uh from Burnley.

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Speaker A

This originates from the ancient Germanic elements. Anyway, aren't you know I'm from the Northwest, so I'm actuallyow I am actually allowed to do that accent because I don't know if you know this Tom Harris, but I was born in Lancaster.

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Speaker A

I did not know that. And I lived there for 10 years and no one will ever take it away from me.

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Speaker A

Anyway, I don't even know if that's accurate. Uh you know nothing, Marco. You know nothing, Marco Rosa. Do you know how um uh sort of existentially confusing it is to be born in a in a place that you can't pronounce

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Speaker A

correctly? What can you not pronounce? Lancaster. Yeah, I was born in G. Golgate is what I would call it, but everyone in the Northwest calls it calls it I don't know if they call it Galgate was like, "Oh,

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Speaker A

Gal Lancaster, you know, Lancaster." Lancaster. I struggle with correctly pronouncing my my first name in Turkish.

63:45

Speaker A

Say it. It's Umar. Oh, Umar. Yeah. But I actually struggle with the sound. I just Yeah, cuz I was I guess English is my first name.

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Speaker A

You wouldn't if you're from Burnley, though. No. That's right. You know, maybe the people of Turkey and the people of the northwest of England have something in common.

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Speaker A

Could be. Yeah. They're always They're always going They're always saying, "Uh uh." Yeah. Okay.

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Speaker A

Well, we've achieved making the show longer for Steven. Anyway, what was I saying? Oh, yes, that's right. We got sidetracked on the sweet cherries. Now, now, now, now, now. Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom. This narrowly avoiding an embar

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Speaker A

potentially embarrassing, although not so embarrassing these days because Bournemouth are a known quantity, aren't they? narrowly avoiding that that defeat. Um, what has Enzo Moresca done?

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Speaker A

Is this the same Manchester City that we saw last season under Pep Guardiola? Is it different? Do you do is it too early to say?

64:38

Speaker A

Um, too early to say, but different a lot of different things really. Um, and I think actually in the first 20 minutes, Bournemouth were a little bit all over the shop because they didn't really know what was going on. I think

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Speaker A

even me trying to watch it, I was like, what is happening here? And I think that worked in City's favor because they were able to get Nico Riley into really good positions. Antoine Semen as well. I think they were two standout players

64:59

Speaker A

from this game for me. They were really really good at carrying the ball forwards.

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Speaker A

Yeah. But yeah, um Mark Ghee kind of played in a in a midfield role as you mentioned.

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Speaker A

Um I think he did very well. Um he does wear the number six on his back.

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Speaker A

He does. That is a very good point. And Anderson number five, I'm not quite sure that although in Brazil the number six is number five.

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Speaker A

They love it in Brazil, right? Enzo Fernandez wears it for that reason, right? I think so. Yeah, Georgino too. Georo as well.

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Speaker A

But yeah, I I don't know. I I think yeah, he was very good. I think he did everything he needed to do, but I think it was just a little bit of kind of awkwardness sometimes when he got the

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Speaker A

ball in advanced areas and that's completely understandable. He's a center back. He has played in midfield before, but it's not his natural position.

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Speaker A

And I think the idea from Mesco was to kind of shore up the rest defense as we were just talking about. Um everyone have a drink. um for City to be a little bit more proactive when they lost the

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Speaker A

ball to pounce and to be able to nick it back straight away. But I think City's out possession shape more generally was just too big. Uh there were just too many gaps to to plug and Ghee and Anderson as well were just

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Speaker A

caught out of position slightly quite a lot and that allowed Bournemouth to really accelerate and counterattack which they did really really well quite a few times. So I definitely think there are things to fix. Um, I think, yeah,

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Speaker A

City did have a lot of a ball in kind of on the edge of the box, but couldn't really get through because I mean, Rico Lewis as well, I'm I'm a big fan of his, but I think he is a little bit

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Speaker A

ineffective as well when he's on the edge of the box in tight spaces. He's just not got that kind of power to really get through the ball and make things happen.

66:27

Speaker A

Yeah. And I think you saw the difference as soon as Ryan Checky came on because not just the the two assists, but some of the he can just change direction so well and that just opens up so many

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Speaker A

passes, so many like little through balls into the box and that just makes City a completely different team.

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Speaker A

Well, that's that's what gave me some cause to think that City were quite lucky to come away with three points because, you know, the first goal that they scored was it was from a corner, right, for for Mark Gay's header. It was

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Speaker A

a moment of bizarre defensive lapse on on on the case of uh Bournemouth who defended very well to that stage that Mar was completely unmarked in the middle of the sixyard box. Um and it and it also required a bit of a deflection

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Speaker A

in order to go in as well. And then Rayan Cherky, it's it's in some ways it's harder to say that it's lucky when a player does something amazing because he is an amazing player aka he will do amazing things. But Ryan Cherky's turn

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Speaker A

and pass for for the second goal, it it is just one of the best things I've ever seen. I mean, he's so good, isn't he? I don't Why did he not start the game?

67:29

Speaker A

I think maybe to do with those rest defense concerns. Um because I mean, Cherokee when he came on, he actually really went for it. And I don't know whether that was a message to to Moresco where he thought, well, I've got

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Speaker A

20 minutes here. I'm going to run about and I'm going to really put myself around. Um, but yeah, generally speaking, he's not as good. Not not so much in terms of application, but I think he can let kind of people go

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Speaker A

behind him. He can kind of, you know, if you're trying to press and there's a movement in behind him, he's a little bit slow to react to that at times. So, probably that's why he didn't start, but I think he has to now because there was

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Speaker A

those moments. There was another moment I think there was a chance for I want to say Foden where he kind of he was he he was surrounded by three or four players and he just kind of did a you know left

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Speaker A

foot right foot pass through the gap and you just like no one else could could do that on the pitch.

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Speaker A

I think I think apart from Mo Salah I've never seen a player that reminds me of Messi so so much. I just don't understand why you wouldn't try to like build a team around that guy. I think that will be the thinking going on. But

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Speaker A

I do think as we know with Moresca, he does, you know, like to tinker. He likes to change things a lot. He likes to he's very adaptable as well. I don't think we give Mesa a lot of credit for, you know,

68:38

Speaker A

we kind of say he's a dogmatist. He does the same thing every time. But, you know, within that game, he brought on Mate Nunes. He he kind of saw the need to have a bit more of a kind of direct

68:48

Speaker A

fullback and a runner in behind and he changed that when when it was required.

68:52

Speaker A

But yeah, I think he will have seen enough from Turkey there to to suggest that he yeah, he has to he has to play.

68:57

Speaker A

Just before we move on, um did you see anything different for Bournemouth under Marco Rosa? His first Premier League game as well.

69:03

Speaker A

Maybe a John question to be fair. I didn't watch the game so fair enough. Um there'll be plenty of opportunity to talk about Bournemouth this season so we don't have to.

69:12

Speaker A

I mean they they were very good. Um I I do think hard act to follow in.

69:17

Speaker A

Yeah, I think similar kind of concepts. I think Antonio Silva looked really good. really composed actually in the center of defense considering he's 22 I want to say he doesn't look the biggest he doesn't look as imposing as I thought

69:28

Speaker A

he would would do but every time the ball came his way he dealt with it kind of minimal fuss so that was really good tair absolutely excellent I think one of the best players in the Premier League to be honest in terms of the the effort

69:38

Speaker A

that he puts in and and the kind of technical ability he's got to go with it as well so I think more of the same didn't watch it in too much detail I was focused on city but yeah I think we can

69:47

Speaker A

expect Bulma to be very difficult to beat okay uh There we go. Man City getting a victory there. Over to the other big team, Arsenal. Now, they were very excited, weren't they, on Friday night.

69:59

Speaker A

Arsenal played, of course, on Friday, 3-0 against Coventry City. Right, Steve? It's a beautiful new day in the Premier League as reigning champions Arsenal kicked off the 26-27 season with a 3-nil win over the Sky Blues, Coventry City.

70:15

Speaker A

Uh with so many of their rivals struggling in the opening game week, it feels like there ain't a cloud in the sky for the Gunners at the moment again.

70:24

Speaker A

Right, Steve? Now Ka, um I I it's it's hard to know, isn't it really what we learned from from this game, a bit like we talked about with Manchester United and Hull earlier. Um if Arsenal win then they're playing against Coventry,

70:38

Speaker A

obviously. Uh if they lose, we would have learned a lot and that would have been more fun for you. Yeah.

70:43

Speaker A

For me? Yeah. Um, yeah, I guess we learned that. Don't say Solace first, please.

70:49

Speaker A

We're talking about Christo Solace and um you you was implying that I had no right.

70:54

Speaker A

Can I do a little Can I do a little impression of all Arsenal fans? I think you're going to Would you mind? Hold on.

70:58

Speaker A

In fact, I'm going to pretend to be on the phone. John, would you pick up your Hello.

71:04

Speaker A

Hey, Dad. Hi there, Joe. How's it going? It's going great, Dad. Hey, did you watch the game?

71:09

Speaker A

Oh, the the the opening game of the season Joe. Well, what other game would we have watched? We only watch Arsenal. We don't watch any other teams.

71:15

Speaker A

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I did watch it. Yeah, I put my 26 27 champion shirt on and 25 26 25 20 I was just looking ahead, son.

71:28

Speaker A

Oh, can you believe how perfectly the masterminded Arteza Mega wet brain plan transfer window plan worked out?

71:34

Speaker A

Incredible. Phase 49 is going super well, isn't it? I can't believe all of those idiots elsewhere fell for that Venicious Junior stuff. We never wanted him, did we? We wanted Christoph Solace from the beginning.

71:45

Speaker A

It's all part of Arteta's great plan. Yeah. Okay. I love you, Dad. I love you, son.

71:50

Speaker A

Bye. Bye. You've been hacking into my dad's phone calls. Reading your diary. Yeah. Anyway, go on. Talk about Listen.

71:57

Speaker A

Listen. I'm going to say this now for the for the starting. I like Christos.

72:01

Speaker A

Yeah, me too. I And I I want to explain. Okay. Everyone listening will will understand.

72:06

Speaker A

They have friends who support a different team. Yeah. It's me you don't like. who over overdo it with a thing like the problem is right you and Steve were talking about Christo Sullies before he'd done anything good just because he's done

72:18

Speaker A

good stuff now it doesn't prove that you were right at the time it just it just proves that you were hopeful at the time okay so I'm getting that out of the way I am claiming the right to like Christo

72:28

Speaker A

Sullies without it sort of without it kind of confirming your football NO YOU WEREN'T RIGHT ALL ALONG ALL along anyway he had a good game didn't he had a brilliant game. Oh my gosh.

72:40

Speaker A

And who could have seen it coming? Uh yeah, he was good. They the interesting thing from an Arsenal perspective is Martin Erdigard, Kai Haberts, and Bkyaka were all in the same team. And Ben White also was was getting forward on the

72:51

Speaker A

right hand side. They linked up nicely for the third goal. A lot of the players who missed large chunks of last season due to injury in the Community Shield and in that commentary game have looked pretty good, which is quite exciting for

73:00

Speaker A

Arsenal. And I don't want to say this. Um but they do look what's he going to say? like well they're definitely going to win the league. I see that but they do look like the team who um I'll say it for you on the basis of the

73:16

Speaker A

first weekend and also based on everything we know about the other big teams Arsenal are surely the air apparently they have to open the air to your own crown.

73:25

Speaker A

Yeah, of course. Last season beat Wolves 4-0 and everyone was like oh that's it.

73:31

Speaker A

Tani Rinders is the best player in the world. So I remember you've got to learn the lessons of previous seasons that one weekend does not a swallow make. Wait, summer.

73:41

Speaker A

Not everyone said that. You didn't know. I said Wolves should have scored four goals in that game. Do you remember? I said that City had serious transitional defensive issues.

73:49

Speaker A

You did also say that Wolves would probably stay up on the You can't get them all right, John. You can't but I think it's fair to say that before before a before a ball was kicked but also after all the balls have been

74:02

Speaker A

kicked in the first weekend Arsenal the not all the balls not all No that's true we have we have tonight we may may maybe F will turn out to be champions but um Arsenal favorites Arsenal favorites it's fair it's fine

74:14

Speaker A

it's okay you have to accept that now you've won the Premier League you can't it's there's no there's no such thing as cursing it by saying it out loud come on just say it definitely such a thing as that just say

74:22

Speaker A

it come say Crystal Solace is massive everywhere he goes. There we go. Anyone Does anyone wish to say that Arsenal aren't favorites for any reason?

74:32

Speaker A

I mean, I've I've got reasons for why I don't want to stay mainly involving Kaya but unfortunately I think that they they will be favorites this season.

74:41

Speaker A

Well, one final caveat again. I know a lot of Arsenal fans think that we are an anti- Arsenal podcast.

74:47

Speaker A

Wonder why. Well, because a we are uh but only only because we have Steve and Ka here. just balance. This is this is the thing that they are both massive Arsenal fans. John and I see it as our duty to offer the

74:59

Speaker A

balance there. And two, they're really really annoying. They're so annoying. True. They're so annoying. It's the most annoying. You're the most annoying combination of people in my in my life and you haven't met all of my family members. So, you can't understand how

75:14

Speaker A

serious that is. Okay. In what specific way, though? Is it? It's the end of the I think it's the end of the show, isn't it?

75:21

Speaker A

We got time. We got time, right? Uh we'll be back this week on We're back on Thursday.

75:28

Speaker A

Thursday. That's right. Who have we got on Thursday? Uh where's back? Yes. We can ask him.

75:33

Speaker A

Oh, yeah. Reuben Pender. Palace loses to Everton. That's right. We'll talk about Crystal Palace. We'll talk we'll try and talk about Everton a little bit there. Uh oh yeah, we've got we've got a new guest on Thursday as as well. Uh so that'll be

75:44

Speaker A

very exciting. And we'll we'll talk about the Fulham Chelsea game. We'll talk about Brighton and Aston Villa.

75:49

Speaker A

That was a really fun one. Um, and then later in the week there'll be a ring for analysis that publishes on Saturday. We will be live on Sunday for the second weekend of the Premier League immediately after the the 4:30 p.m.

76:00

Speaker A

game. What is that game on Sunday? I wrote it in the script and I now can't find it. It's Town against Manchester United. Oh, yeah. Old Trafford.

76:07

Speaker A

There you go. Another opportunity for Man United to drop points against a promoted team. God, they've had an easy start.

76:15

Speaker A

Incredible. Anyway, there's plenty coming up this week. So, um I hope you enjoy it. But until then, John McKenzie, thank you.

76:21

Speaker A

Thank you. Tom Harris, thank you. Thank you very much. Ka Kak, thank you. Christo Solless, I should say. And Steve Hanky was also here.

76:28

Speaker A

Goodbye. That's right. We'll be back later. Uh see you.

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